Why was Stone laughing with Putin when he could've

Stop bumping the Colbert threads and talk about the actual docu!

>>84042941
I feel like it's impossible to have a thread about it without attracting a wave of Russian shitposters telling us how Putin is a great guy and then it devolving into the usual Trump arguments. Anyway Stone didn't pin him down on anything of course, Putin would never have allowed that, they knew exactly what they were getting when they agreed to do the doc.

>>84043051
Why, exactly, is Putin a bad guy, again?

>>84042101
Based Mother Russia.

>>84043226
>Sucked oligarch dick and kept them by the balls so they'd fund his pet projects but also profit
>Invaded Ukraine preemtively when he could've legitimately annexed them without bloodshed
>Shot down a civilian plane for the chaos and destablization in Ukraine
>Kills dissenting voices just for keks
I could go on, but I bet you know these things already, Sergei.

>>84043419
>>Shot down a civilian plane for the chaos and destablization in Ukraine
As much as I hate Putin I can't blame him or Russia for that one.

>>84043419
You think America is so innocent?

>>84043051
the russians are the ones who will talk about the murder of journalists

>>84043226
he is a politician

and he also has his enemies murdered, but the fact that he is a politician alone already makes him a bad guy, good guys don't become politicians

>>84043592
>get arrested for murder
>others have killed too! let me go!
lel
you're not good at this

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>>84042101
>>84042941
>>84043051
>>84043226
>>84043227
>>84043419
>>84043474
>>84043592
>>84043611

We will bury them.

>>84043592
>Sacha uses whataboutism!
No, but disapproval isn't finite. And America's shitcraft isn't concentrated in one individual. Everyone here is mildly shitty at worst, an Nth fraction of the shitty that Putin is.

>>84043592
No, but America hasn't been run by just one guy since 1999.
Putin has either been in power or around power since the Cold War, and he shows no signs of retiring soon.

>>84043754
Not that anon, but I don't see your point. In fact, it makes it even a worse case for America. There were a bunch of American presidents, not one of them deserving of praise, not one of them is better than any other dictator.

This is all childish though, every world leader is just pushing each other and the bigger they are, the more vile they have to be. America has tortured more people, killed more innocents, broke more economies and influenced the world in a bad way more than any other country. That's not to say Americans are worst than the rest of the world, just that they are bigger and thus naturally much more of a bully. If things were to go differenty, other countries would be in that position. Russia is shit too. China too. Europe too. The bigger it is, the worst it is and no ammount of sugar coating can help with that.

It's just very frustrating to hear that some Americans don't realize that, a lot of people actually think "terrorists" are worse than themselves or something. I don't get how people can be this naive.

>>84044441
I'm not a fan of Trump but I thought it was awesome when he said America has killed people, too. No US president ever says shit like that. They just go on and on about how great we are.

>>84043051
>Russian shitposters telling us how Putin is a great guy
You mean Russoboos who don't actually live in Russia

>>84043051
>how dare you not be a neocon kike faggot and want to start WW3 with Russia over nothing

wew lad

>>84045281
>neocon kike faggot
Putin?

>>84044441

>people are really bad, but you're also bad as well, if not worse!

Regardless of what your insane cuck mind is feeding you, western society has always been at the forefront of human rights and personal freedoms, while the rest of the world is severely lagging or going counter to it.

>>84044441
>a lot of people actually think "terrorists" are worse than themselves or something
they aren't?

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>>84045229
>if you don't want a retardedly antagonistic anti-Russian you are a Russianboo

The thing is nobody really likes Putin, but he's far better than all the retarded neocons that have infested our state department and media.

I never want to go to Russia or live in Russia, mainly because the economy sucks due to neoliberal economics implemented in the 90s and communism implemented before that.

But do I want to fight a war with Russia? Nope. Do I want to support ISIS in Syria? Nope. Do I want to overtly fund radicals to overthrow the elected Ukrainian government? Nope.

>>84045356
>Putin is le neocon

nope

>>84043226
He is traitor working for Russians and does not love America

>>84045423
>irredentist interventionist Israel lover
>not a neocon

>>84043419
>Invaded Ukraine preemtively when he could've legitimately annexed them without bloodshed

Are you retarded or something.

>>84043051
Americans literally kill on everyday basis brown people and have been installing bloodthirsty dictators even in Europe but because Putin kills homos and journalists and showed that Hillary is corrupt and fucked Bernie we should totally have a nuclear war with Russia

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>>84042101
How can you not fucking love this guy

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>>84043419
>Sucked oligarch dick
Lol, Putin ended the age of neoliberal oligarchy

>Invaded Ukraine preemptively
He annexed Crimea because the US funded a rebellion to overthrow the Democratically elected government of Ukraine, and Crimea had a strategic Russian Naval base in it that everyone knew a hostile Ukranian government would expel. In addition Crimea is 90% Russian

>annexed them without bloodshed

There was no bloodshed.

>Shot down a civilian plane for the chaos and destablization in Ukraine

"Putin" didn't shoot down anything, and in reality no one has provied any evidence as to who shot down that airliner.

>Kills dissenting voices just for keks

literally no evidence of this. You have just as much evidence that Clinton has people she doesn't like killed.

>>84043720

You and your crew need to stop using the term "whataboutism" because it outs you instantly

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>>84045538
>supports Syria and Assad
>going directly against Yinon/PNAC

You literally can't be less of a neocon

>>84045687
whataboutism was coined by the economist magazine like decades ago

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>>84045569
He's everything that Trump would like to be but will never ever be

>>84045568
Is there actually any proof that he kills gay people?

>>84045822
Of course not

>>84045568
well somebody's gotta kill brown people, we might as well do it.

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>>84045751
Yes, yes this goy Putin is not one of us
OY VEY HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST

>>84045822
nope

Russia just banned gay propaganda aimed at children

Therefore they need to be nuked, according to jews.

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>>84045751
You think this lefty bots even know what a neocon Is m8. For them neocon is like saying racist or fscist, just a buzzword.

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>>84045677
>literally no evidence of this.

>>84043474
Well, it was an accident but it was Russia

For the life of me, I can't understand why airliners were flying over a highly active conflict zone

>>84045947
I'm pretty sure that the Russian Intelligence would have better ways to dispose of dissenters than to poison them and let them die slowly creating a huge media scandal

>>84045791
I hope he doesn't have a heart attack doing this, hockey and old men can be a dangerous mixture

>>84046022
Are you saying the Polonium-210 materialized out of his ass?

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>>84045947

>>84046124
>Seth Rich was killed by a radioactive substance that we all know can be bought at your local CVS

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>>84045890
I never said Putin was an ethno nationalist. He's very much a globalist that is fine with jews (his best friend is a jew he met at karate practice) and he's fine with flooding Russia with Central Asian Muslims.

At the same time he obviously isn't a neoconservative because he opposes's Israel's and Saudi Arabia's "destroy the entire Middle East especially the secular, moderate, Muslim parts" foreign policy that makes up the core of neocon ideology.

>>84045947
Do you know how much radioactive material went missing after the Cold War? Any illegal organization can poison someone like that.

To this date there has been no evidence tying Putin to Litvinenko

>>84046077
Any criminal organization can poison someone in Russia with radioactive materials, and they would also all have a motive since Litvinenko was seriously involved in Russian Mob activity.

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>>84046158
>hurr only the Russian government has access to radioactive material

>>84043592
That line really made me respect Trump a lot.

>>84046158
There's more evidence the Clinton campaign killed Seth Rich than Putin poisoned Litivenko.

>>84045947
>killed by his KGB friends for betraying them

Yeah thats putins dirty work alright

>>84045751
If this is what Israel wanted, why the fuck did they ever give back the Sinai to Egypt?

>>84046237
they're playing 1401940D chess

>>84046158
remember when the CIA tested vaccines on niggers? remember when the gave LSD to people without their consent? dae lmao fuck Putin

>>84046237
Yinon Plan wasn't developed until the early 1980s after they had already signed the agreement to withdraw

>>84046228
So why is Russia protecting Lugovoy?

>>84046260
CIA is good boys. Dey dindu nuffin.

https://youtu.be/S0xKvjRATJI

>>84046224
You mean someone from the Clinton campaign has been linked to physical evidence from the shooting?

>>84046305
hey guys lets extradite our own citizens to a hostile country.

>>84046040
Theres a 60+ mens league in my town.

>>84046077
Are you fucking retarded?
I'm clearly saying it was not Russia who did it

>>84045895
>Russia just banned gay propaganda aimed at children
Translates roughly that they introduced law called "You have to be older than 18 to buy porn"

>>84046040
This nigga been working out 7 days a week since he was 14

>>84042101
Putin seduced him.

>>84046373
>hey this guy is linked to an international murder involving nuclear material, let's protect him because we want to make sure we're the good guys

>>84043592
Classic moral relativism when third world states are questioned by Americans.

>>84046304
And what evidence do you have that the Yinon Plan is being pursued or even has any mainstream support?

>>84046161
Well, this guy is kinda right
Shia's are more powerful because Iran is the only muslim country that doesn't suck major ass

>>84046022
>let them die slowly creating a huge media scandal
Is this how you want to die? Mess with Russia.

>>84045107
>No US president ever says shit like that
But that's not true? Obama did but you know, I can't mention his name even without get twenty spergout (you)s from kids who weren't even voting age when he was in office.

>>84046498
>let them die slowly WITHOUT creating a huge media scandal
THAT would be the Russian way

>>84046440
hey guys snowden leaked that we spy everyone on this planet quick someone get a FISA court order so he can go to jail without everyone else knowing about this. even better lets send him to the prison that we have in Cuba. Its feels so good to be the good guys

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>>84046474
it's fair game

>>84045677
Why are Americans defending Putin? It's just weird seeing as a Russian. He might not have anything to do with Trump but he certainly is not the big strong autocrat that everyone misunderstood.

>>84045687
don't let them know

or when they counter with "Brietbart Alex Jones!"

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>>84045423
>literal totalitarian dictator who brainwashes his people with government controlled media and kills journalists and dissenters who disagree with him and his total control over Russia
>is better than democratically elected heads of state.
Holy shit, I usually never believe there are real shills here...but the Putin defense force is far too autistic to be real opinions from human beings.

>>84045107
Russia would never openly admit to committing atrocities or warcrimes even though we all know they did.
That's a weakness. You don't show weakness in nature unless you want to be attacked.

>>84046474
>literally destibilize an entire continent for oil and support a medieval monarchy
>OMG Putin jailed pussyriot QUICK SOMEONE GET THE NUKE CODES

>>84046568
Well I guess we can't do anything about state corruption now since America already has done worse. Pack it up everybody.

>>84046535
Not since Putin hired a theater major as his Chief of Staff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov

>>84046578
It's not so much defending Putin as being annoyed by people who say we should hate Russia because they do bad things.

>>84046578
Because /pol/ and Rebbit are full of retarded children who actually think authoritarianism is cool and endearing.

>>84046578
We're not, we're trying to not let liberals send us into world war simply because It Was Her Turn.

Reminder that during 8 years Obama let Putin do literally whatever he wanted with minor repercussions.

>>84046608
Go home Trumpbaby. You don't know anything.

>>84046668
But, are you suggesting you shouldn't hate Russia for doing bad things...?

>>84046608
Fuck that continent.

Putin kills white people.

>>84046483
You mean besides the existence of AIPAC(Israeli shills) and more importantly PNAC (neocon shills that controlled the Bush administration) who directly called for and continue to call for neocon foreign policy that destroys secular stable middle eastern countries and replaces with with radical Saudi backed wahhabist/Jihadist terrorists?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee

There is no question of "if" Israel controls American foreign policy. It's a scandal in the US if you don't clap for the Israeli PM hard enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBALlbFHxio

>>84046713
I'm saying America does bad things, too. And instead of hating on Russia, we should become BFFs and do bad things together.

>>84046602
>totalitarian dictator who brainwashes his people with government controlled media and kills journalists and dissenters who disagree with him and his total control over the US

How can you support Trump's regime

>>84046694
>Reminder that during 8 years Obama let Putin do literally whatever he wanted with minor repercussions
Ah, revisionist history again I see. You want to compare Trump's "buddy buddy" attitude and how Obama handled him? Let me refresh your memory:

Obama placed heavy sanctions on Russia to try to dissuade them from further expansion after Georgia, Obama was hard-line against Putin on a variety of human rights concerns, including treatment of prisoners of war and overall human rights violations that Putin was pretending he wasn't committing.

What does Trump do? Literally fucking nothing. No further sanctions, trying to remove the current sanctions and cozying up with Putin like he owes him a favor.

Screech about this all you want, Obama took a hard stance against Putin's interventionist attitude towards foreign governments and foreign elections. Trump is a fucking wimp.

>>84046763
>if you don't clap for the Israeli PM hard enough.
lel
>the absolute state of clapistan

>>84045370
>you
I'm not talking about "you", I'm from that same society. I think we should first look at ourselves before projecting enemies elsewhere. If I were Russian I would be totally shitting on Putin first before saying anything about America. That is so specially because if we don't look at ourselves, chances are we don't even get a good picture of who the others are.

Western society is not just US and Europe, it's Congo and Bangladesh, it's all part of the same market and the same engine. Latin American dictators financed by the US are totally western things. Not to mention everything else that isn't western society is not simply a different way of life that is going its own way in a natural sense, they both feed one another. The middle east wouldn't be this mess without Europe or the US (or Russia). China wouldn't be how it is today without how the market works in the rest of the world, even NK wouldn't be this crazy if it weren't from the pressure it goes through.

I don't see anything about human rights or personal freedom in western societies besides in its own speech. If you live in the US and Europe you live through the privilege, but most people don't realize that it is not because it simply "went right" or the world just didn't catch up. "My freedom" only works at the expense of another person's slavery. And I mean that quite literally. Take away the slaves, the unfair prices for resources, the wars happening (always elsewhere) and the same economical powers wouldn't be able to sustain themselves as they are.

>>84046774
>I'm saying a whataboutism
Right, the only argument on this fucking board regarding Putin.

>>84046526
What did he say? And did he say it before, during or after he bombed seven countries every day for seven straight years?

>>84046763
>DA JOOOOSSSSSSS!!!!!! REEEEEE!! BREADCRUMBS!!! PEPE SILVIA PEPE SILVIA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nTpsv9PNqo

>>84046850

Wrong kiddo.

Putin was literally doing whatever he wanted during Obamas terms, up to and including invading neighboring countries.

Only share blue shills think "sanctions" are good punishment for literally invading another country lmao.

Oh Obama was "hard line" on Putin? Too bad that he continued doing EVERYTHING he wanted while Obama let him like the good little boy he was.

>>84046921
I criticize Obama for his drone program just like the rest of them, but he has talked about past evils our country has done.

>>84043419
Nothing of what are you saying is ever happened

Congratulations you are a puppet of Kiki's

>>84046578
Because I'm not a neocon shill, unlike you

>>84046602
>brainwashes his people with government controlled media

Want to explain how it's "evil brainwashing propaganda" as opposed to any other state or corporate media?

>kills journalists and dissenters who disagree with him

Literally zero evidence for this

>total control over Russia

I don't see Putin as all that powerful in Russia actually. He certainly has far less power than your average Soviet premier did. Russia isn't a communist country anymore, it's a mixed market system with regulations, but it's by no means a command economy anymore.

>>84045378
Terrorist is just a buzzword. So many different things were called terrorist in the past hundred so years. If you were to fight a dictator in your country, you'd be a terrorist too.

Every alleged terrorist is just hitting it back. I'm not justifying it, by all means, just that it is must not be seen as something isolated that some crazy people are doing for some crazy motivation. Even if they think of themselves that way. If you look from their side, they are like tiny ants being crushed by an elephant and trying to bite back. Any nation is worse than a group of terrorist. The worst crimes to mankind are done in a completely legal way between corporations and nations, signing papers here and ignoring the consequences that will be felt by the people, specially if it is some other people.

>>84046977
>Only share blue shills think "sanctions" are good punishment for literally invading another country lmao.
DUDE LETS GO TO WAR WITH RUSSIA ALREADY YEEHAW I SURE LOVE ME SOME GOOD OL' NUCLEAR WINTER

>>84046977
>NOOO YOU WRONG REEEE! I SAID SO!
>SHAREBLUE!
You people can't even agree upon a shared reality here. He most certainly was critical of Putin and this Alex Jones-tier meme of him "doing nothing for 8 years" is fucking retarded.

It is literally, factually and historically untrue. Every word you said.

>>84043754

>No, but America hasn't been run by just one guy since 1999.

I think it that makes the US look worse. At least Putin being an autocrat means at least someone decided to own the actions of the state.

The US bureaucracy on the other hand is a foggy cesspool where ethics go to die no matter who enters and no one person can be offed to fix it.

Degenerate democracies are a lot more depressing than enlightened despotism.

>>84047109
>>84047120
samefag shill

>>84046900
Sorry, but it's hard for me to take the left's anti-Russia hysteria seriously when we've been bombing the Middle East for fifteen years. Remember when liberals would question the CIA's motives and call America out for doing bad shit? I miss those guys. :-(

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>>84046940
me: arguments based on logic and evidence coming from textual scholarly sources

you: memes

I suggest you educate yourself

>The book describes the lobby as a "loose coalition of individuals and organizations who actively work to steer U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction".[3] The book "focuses primarily on the lobby's influence on U.S. foreign policy and its negative effect on American interests".[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_and_U.S._Foreign_Policy

>>84047148
yeah 4chan totally allows for consecutive posts within a 15 second time span

>>84047063
>Want to explain how it's "evil brainwashing propaganda" as opposed to any other state or corporate media?
Because "da ebul corporate run media!" in the West is not as horrendous as Trumpfags pretend and there is no literal monopoly on news. Why do you think so many faggots are misinformed? It's because tabloids run rampant. But we have no state-funded news. The Kremlin does however. The Kremlin decides exactly how they want you to view Putin.
>Literally zero evidence for this
There is, literally most of the first world is aware of it besides Putin supporters. Really rattles the ol' noggin.
>I don't see Putin as all that powerful in Russia actually
That means the propaganda is working.
>He certainly has far less power than your average Soviet premier did
KEK, he most certainly does. Landslide elections for the last few decades, amirite?

>>84047181
>another whataboutism.
Is that all you can respond with?

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>>84047183
>A conservative wrote a book that piggybacks off of the antisemitic and the paranoid.
>This is my source
Well, color me fucking shocked.

>>84047183
>This one book reaffirms my beliefs, so it must be true.

>>84047257
Can you tell me why I should hate Russia without mentioning all of the bad shit they've done?

Shitlib russia truthers? on MY /tv/?

>>84047257
Putin is a democratically elected leader its not right to depose those kind of people, even though you did it multiple time in the past, good enough for you?

>>84047355
>don't try to convince me to be critical of Russia
>don't tell me any of the bad shit they've done
...are you absolutely retarded? Why in the fuck wouldn't I tell you the bad shit they've done?? The fuck sort of safe space from thought are you looking to build here?

Russia is a totalitarian state with a single ruler who holds faux "elections" and operates a Kremlin-funded news to brainwash you into thinking your golden boy is a dindu nuffin, while the rest of the fucking modern world is trying to tell you what he's up to.

>>84047063
>Spy uncovers Russian corruption
>dies by radioactive poisoning
>Journalist for opposition media outlet uncovers Russian abuses in the Chechen War
>gets shot in the chest
>Lawyer finds evidence of Russian police corruption
>gets beaten to death
>human rights activists again finds proof of Russian wrong-doing in the CW
>gets kidnapped
>lawyer who was defending her gets killed as well
>investigative journalist who has written of Russian corruption gets killed in drive-by
>HRA gets murdered outside his home the day he registers his liberal group for a party
>Russian oligarch who falls off with Putin gets killed in his England home

>>84047441
>is my other whataboutism good enough for you?
No.
>he's democratically elected
LOL landslide elections with political opponents that mysteriously vanish. Yeah, what great democracy you have fuckface.

>>84047183
Don't blame the Jews for taking advantage of the system that was meant to be taken advantage of.

>>84047219
>we have no state-funded news
>PBS/NPR don't exist
I wish
>The Kremlin decides exactly how they want you to view Putin
Western media decides how they want you to view Trump
>literally most of the first world is aware
I'm sure the evidence is out there with Saddam's mythical WMDs
>Landslide elections for the last few decades, amirite

Where's the evidence they are rigged? You realize international polling organization don't find any signs of disparity between polling numbers and election outcomes right?

You're the tinfoil fag here.
>>84047288
>>84047348
>I ignore books that don't validate my preconceived notions

good to here

>>84046900
Valid argument when you have insane democrats calling for heightening tensions with Russia simply because Hillary fucked up her campaign.

>>84047063
There is as much evidence as there is of Democrats killing opposition.

>>84047288
What liberals are writing about the Israel lobby in US politics?

>>84047463
>LOL landslide elections with political opponents that mysteriously vanish. Yeah, what great democracy you have fuckface.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee
http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/donald-trump-goldman-sachs-drain-swamp-steve-bannon-steven-mnuchin-gary-cohn-jay-clayton/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_employees_of_Goldman_Sachs

>>84046774
>And instead of hating on Russia, we should become BFFs and do bad things together.
Russian are like niggers but white by accident

>>84045677
>pay me protection money
>ended the age of neoliberal oligarchy

I guess that explains Pooties high net worth

>>84047573
Who gives a fuck about the Israel lobby you dumbfuck. Jews hand out money like candy and your retarded Republicans and Democrats take it like they also take it from every other lobby group in existence. Go cry about muh jews elsewhere.

>>84047483
>PBS/NPR don't exist
The federal government does not dictate, control or mediate what PBS outs out. The only intervention is done by the FCC on language and graphic images, not content. I could go on NPR and talk shit about my President all day. Nothing will happen to me.
>Western media decides how they want you to view Trump
Will you please, fuck right off with the constant "whataboutisms"? I don't need the media to convince me that Trump is a moron, he does that himself.
>I'm sure the evidence is out there with Saddam's mythical WMDs
This isn't like, we started criticizing Putin yesterday for some sort of agenda. We have been critical of him for over ten years.
>Where's the evidence they are rigged?
you honestly believe that you have 100 percent voting turnout every election, and EVERY election, he wins by a landslide? For decades???
>You realize international polling organization don't find any signs of disparity between polling numbers and election outcomes right?
Their subsidiary is a Russian company....they absolutely pick and choose the more pro-Putin types for the polls. There is def an issue there.
>I ignore books that don't validate my preconceived notions
Have you literally bothered to do any research on the author and how everyone criticizes him for this one book?

>>84047355
is this bait?

>>84047552
W H A T A B O U T I S M

>>84042101
Why provoke him?

>>84047598
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>>84047219
CNN was literally mailing Hillary debate questions.

NPR runs non-stop anti-trump stories since the election.

All the media outlets that were friendly with Obama to the point that you could argue that they were part of his campaign , are coincidentally running non-stop "Russia Hacked the election!" stories for months now.

Just accept that Russia and Putin aren't any worse than us and stop sucking the MSM's pro-war dick

>>84047444

>Spy uncovers Russian corruption dies by radioactive poisoning

nice conspiracy thoery

>“Litvinenko was an employee of exiled Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky – whose ill-gotten empire included a Russian syndicate of car-dealerships that had more than a nodding acquaintance with the Chechen Mafia – but was being slowly cut out of the money pipeline. Big-hearted Boris, who had initially put him on the payroll as anti-Putin propagandist, was evidently getting sick of him, and the out-of-work "dissident" was reportedly desperate for money. Litvinenko had several " business meetings " with Lugovoi in the months prior to his death, and, according to this report , he hatched a blackmail scheme targeting several well-known Russian tycoons and government officials.”

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/01/21/craziest-conspiracy-theory/

The rest are just the same. You have as much direct evidence that Clinton killed Seth Rich: none

>>84047470
>don't blame people for doing things that they did

>>84047552
>simply because Hillary fucked up her campaign.
or perhaps because Putin decided to bite a piece off Ukraine
>hurr only dems hate russia
really nigger

>>84047721
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>>84047721
>Just accept that Russia and Putin aren't any worse than us and stop sucking the MSM's pro-war dick
Show me where in the US the state approved concentration camps for fags are

>>84047573
>liberals don't resort to this specific conspiracy theory. COinCIdENCE???

>>84047723
Guess, what? Every country on earth lobbies in America. Now hurry back to /pol/

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>>84046921
>Obama bombs muslims
WTF I HATE WAR NOW
>Trump bombs muslims and lets the MIC pretty much run itself
>>WTF I LOVE WAR NOW

the average trumpkin.

>>84047745
>perhaps because Putin decided to bite a piece off Ukraine

You mean when Obama let him bite a piece off of Ukraine right anon?

Makes ya think, why would Putin give a fuck about the US elections when he's been doing whatever he wants for decades now without being stopped in any way?

>>84047723
>put him on the payroll as anti-Putin propagandist
Fucking stop, you pathetic Russian bot.

>>84047442
>America does bad shit too, you know?
>NOT AN ARGUMENT! Now let me tell you why you should hate Russia. Russia does bad shit.

>>84047797
Bombing the right Muslims is good. Bombing Libya and Assad when they're the ones who kept a lid on things is just dumb.

>>84046921
>And did he say it before, during or after he bombed seven countries every day for seven straight years?
>bombing mudslimes is bad
That's nu-/pol/ shills for you, folks.

>>84047781
Show me where they are in Russia first.

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Did you notice the Soviet map in the intro has whole Finland as part of the USSR (as Finnish SSR)? It never existed. Why would he put in made up maps in his """great and truthful""" show?

What did (((Oliver Stone))) mean by this?

>>84043051
I don't think a thread has ever been so accurately predicted

>>84047723
Just stop, man. It's so pathetic seeing drumptards defend Putin. You are doing everyone in this country a disservice

>>84047802>>84047821

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spz0a1WMYwQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=821-4OpkDHI

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism

>Whataboutism is a propaganda technique first used by the Soviet Union, in its dealings with the Western world.[1] When Cold War criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[2][3] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[4] a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.

>>84047355
Great bait or amazingly stupid individual.

>>84047797
Why do you guys immediately assume that anybody who disagrees with you is a Trump supporter? I didn't vote for Trump and I wasn't happy with him when he bombed Syria.

>>84047640
You won't find a non-neocon/non-neoliberl opinion piece on NPR. It's never happening. If you have any opinions that aren't kosher you get blacklisted.

Chilling effects are still censorship.

> fuck right off with the constant "whataboutisms

Too bad it's true. The western media decides the narrative they run with regardless of the facts see: Iraq

>EVERY election, he wins by a landslide?

He hasn't even been in every election

>Their subsidiary is a Russian company

So western polling companies are now part of your tinfoil Russian conspiracy too? Is anyone not a secret Russian spy?

>bothered to do any research on the author and how everyone criticizes him for this one book

They're very widely regarded political realists.

>>84047817
>anti-Putin propaganda bots don't exist

Are you saying you don't exist?

Liberals don't give a fuck about Russia, this is a shit test for republicans normal people with liberals trying to push the neocon and patriot buttons because they cannot stand Trump. Libfags don't even want conflict with Russia and in the event that it did happen libfags would be shitting their pants and protesting on the streets against the draft.
Nothing will come of this scandal first there was collusion that failed now its obstruction of justice which also failed soon they will find another angle of attack which will also fail

>>84047821
Again, that literally is not an argument.

>>84047869
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_concentration_camps_in_Chechnya

>inb4 muh chechnya isn't REAL russia
Also Kadyrov was NEVER backed by Putin, nuh uh didn't happen :^)

>>84047904
>defend Putin

It's funny you say that because I don't even like Putin. But unlike you I'm not some retard that believes everything that neocon media tells me to believe.

Btw how's that search for Saddam's WMDs going?

All the problems of the world spawn from capitalism in the sense that people need to profit from one another, that is, to take more than they give to the world. Every person, nation, ethnic group, corporation, terrorist, etc etc is only trying to survive against the others and because of that they think they are justified to do bad shit

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Been watching the first two episodes.
Already there are many lies by Putin that would go unnoticed to the average viewer.

There are no plans to encircle Russia by NATO.

>>84047995
Are you retarded? There is no neocon in Russian politics and I don't watch braindead American TV.

>>84047920
>If you have any opinions that aren't kosher you get blacklisted.
They have all sorts of people on there, all the time. They air conservatives and liberals.
>Chilling effects are still censorship.
What does this even mean?
>The western media decides the narrative they run with regardless of the facts see
See: whataboutism.
>He hasn't even been in every election
He's "run" in every election since he won the first one. Or, he just doesn't hold elections and you all act like retards and go with it.
>So western polling companies are now part of your tinfoil Russian conspiracy too? Is anyone not a secret Russian spy?
The western polling is literally conducted in accordance with Russian guidelines, in accordance through Russian polling companies...that feed the data back to the Kremlin.
>They're very widely regarded political realists.
And they also have really shitty ideas and opinions about Jews.

>>84047802
>it's Obama's fault that Putin invaded Ukraine
Really nigger.

>why would Putin give a fuck about the US elections when he's been doing whatever he wants for decades now without being stopped in any way?
You are absolutely right based redpiller, there were zero consequences for Putin pulling that shit. He's still in the G8 and Germany didn't move one fucking muscle concerning oil trade with Russia. Nothing changed.

>>84048039
>There are no plans to encircle Russia by NATO.

Thanks for the info, Mr. knows what NATO is up to

>>84048104
Lmao whats the matter libtard, upset that your anti-Russia narrative dies when people point out Russia has been getting away with everything before Trump even decided to run for president?

this "doc" just paints Putin as a giant dindu. All of Stones documentaries are skewed.

>>84047953
>Nothing will come of this scandal
Trump probably won't get impeached...but to say "nothing" is literally you not paying attention.

>Robert Mueller, who is overseeing the Department of Justice Russia investigation, is looking into whether Trump attempted to obstruct justice. An hour later, Trump was back at it, calling the investigation the "single greatest WITCH HUNT in American political history." (People who followed McCarthyism closely might disagree.)

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/14/532985377/report-trump-under-investigation-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/politics/trump-investigation-comey-russia.html?_r=0

>libs ITT unironically attacking the validity of The Israel Lobby

Uneducated plebs spotted. Book came under immense scrutiny when it was released and in spite of that nobody could discredit it. It's the equivalent of trying to question Bowling Alone or The Bell Curve. You're acting as if a conversation didn't already transpire over the book. You're hopelessly stuck in the past.

>>84048039
>1997

Wow that's really fucking relevant

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/nato-deploys-troops-poland-russian-border-170413213541667.html

>>84048041
>I don't watch braindead American TV.

If you did you would know that the neocons are trying to start a war with Russia, which is insane

>>84048098

>They air conservatives and liberals.

They air neocons with Rs and Ds next to their names

>What does this even mean?

You haven't heard of chilling effects?

>He's "run" in every election since he won the first one

No, he hasn't.

>The western polling is literally conducted in accordance

No, it's company has its own standards

>And they also have really shitty ideas and opinions about Jews.

In other words they're realists

>>84043226
He has people poisoned and subtly brags about it. Are you autistic or just an edge lord?

>>84048220
How was Trump obstructing justice? Comey said he wasn't so what other angle is there?

>>84048168
>US-Russia relations haven't changed since 2014
>EU-Russia relations haven't changed since 2014
So this is the power of the American education system

>>84048265
He has people poisoned

evidence: 0

>>84048220
evidence presented for Trump obstructing justice: 0

number of Saddam's WMDs found in Iraq: 0

It's funny how that same number keeps popping up every time neocons make ridiculous claims.

>>84048265
What? So suddenly poisoning people is wrong? What do you think politics is about?

Seriously, how does a bunch of /pol/fags defending mass murder and shit whine so much about a routine killing in high ranks?

>>84048220
>Robert Mueller suggested to Trump to fire Comey
>now he's investigating Trump for obstruction

Hmmm

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>>84048263
>In other words they're realists
>hurr durr muh based redpills are infallible I don't need evidence

>>84043226
dunno, I watched some craig ferguson and I agree with him.
https://youtu.be/w5MoEbhU6yk?t=23m16s
23mins16s if the link doesn't work for you.
no backlash and furious defense of putin back in the day, weird.

>>84042101
because that's a good joke.

>>84048271
>Comey said he wasn't
He literally says he was in his testimony. I know you redditors didn't watch it, but his testimony is literally why they are holding a special committee for Trump.

Do you faggots ever pay attention to the shit actually going on?

>>84048332
Is that 4D chess working out for based God Emperor Trump, the political mastermind?

>>84047958
You have no argument, either. Russia does bad shit? No duh! Really? Consider my mind fucking blown.

>>84048332
What is your argument though?

>>84048271
>>84048332


Maybe they should investigate Trump to see if he has any of Saddam's WMDs

>>84048334
go ahead and debunk their analysis then

>>84043226
I don't know you should ask Ukraine

>>84048386
Then stop throwing whataboutisms at me and stop defending Putin, fucking retard.

>>84043680
it's more a case of murderers calling other murderers murderers and getting offended they get called murderers in retaliation.

>>84048332
Robert Mueller didn't suggest Trump fire Comey. You're confusing him with Rid Rosenstein. Which his irrelevant anyway, since Trump admitted he did it because of Russia

>>84048358
Too bad that firing the FBI director doesn't actually obsctruct anything.

Too bad that you have to prove what Trump was thinking when he fired him

Too bad the only evidence you have is from the guy who was fired and admitted to leaking to the press destroying his worth as a witness.

Too bad that Trump had multiple people go on record giving advice to fire him

Too bad most of the democrats were advocating firing him also

Too bad the guy running the "investigation" also recommended firing him

Too bad Trump will be getting a second term over this witch hunt.

>>84048358
He was asked about it during the hearing and he clearly said that Trump didn't order him to do anything at all

> “Did the president, in any of those interactions that you’ve shared with us today, ask you what you should be doing, or what our government should be doing, or the intelligence community, to protect America against Russian interference in our election system?”

> “I don’t recall a conversation like that.”

>>84048263
>They air neocons with Rs and Ds next to their names
So everyone is a neocon if you say so? Airtight argument there.
>You haven't heard of chilling effects?
Enlighten me.
>No, he hasn't.
Yes, he has. You stupid fuck.
>No, it's company has its own standards
lol, yes that's what they tell the western pollings. That's how they get away with it.
>In other words they're realists
No, just antisemites.

>>84048386
>RUSSIA DON'T DO BAD SHIT
>yes it does
>WELL DUH SO WHAT??
What did comrade Andrej mean by this?

>>84048432
This started out as a """"""""whataboutism"""""". Russia is being used as a massive scapegoat.

>>84048432
>maybe Putin isn't the second coming of Hitler

>Maybe going to war with Russia is a bad idea

>maybe a no fly zone over Syria isn't good

"S-stop defending Putin! All my comedy talk show hosts told me he was EVIL and we need to stop him!"

>>84048458
>I didn't watch the Comey testimony
>I got my news from /pol/ and Breitbart memes
>I honestly believe holding heads of state accountable for shady shit is a witch hunt
>bUT HILLAREEEEE KILLED ALL DA PEOPLE AT BENGHAZI!!!!
Take a second to get off of Trump's cock and actually read the articles I sent you from The HIll and NPR, if you are confused (which you clearly are).

>>84043720
>>84043754
that's arguably worse as the american evil is institutionalized, mostly through the cia and to a lesser extent the position of presidency, meaning america as a concept has become evil, as opposed to russia since the evil in russia can mostly be blamed on putin and his crew, who, unlike the cia, are individuals, meaning russia as a concept might not necessarily be evil. i would disagree with mildly shitty at worst as an assessment though, america has been in more aggressive wars since ww2 than anyone else, and shows no signs of stopping. not only that, but america is almost solely responsible for acts of war that condemned multiple generations with birth defects and other lingering ailments.

>>84048528
Nice strawman, dickhead

>>84048447
>since Trump admitted he did it because of Russia

You should REALLY get your political news from different sources if you think this is true lmao.

>>84048528
Scroll up and reread your posts you dumb brainlet, Russian shill.

>>84048432
I'll stop defending Putin when you guys stop trying to convince me that we should start WWIII with Russia because they "hacked" our elections and the only proof you can provide is Putin's a big meany.

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>>84048263
Fuck off, shill

>>84048541
Can you cite where Comey accused or implied that Trump was obstructing the investigation without resorting to shitlib articles analytics and wishful thinking post the quote faggot

>>84048594
Don't bother arguing with bait

>>84048565
Please tell me why you think that isn't true.

>>84043592
whataboutism

>>84047953
>trying to push the neocon and patriot buttons

The Russians have been pushing those buttons with propaganda and bots, and right wing shit eaters gobbled it up then asked for seconds. Not to mention supporting all of the right wing movements in Europe and even alt right /pol/ racists that have ties to Russia

>>84048609
>WAHHH DA SHITLIBS! /POL/ TOLD ME TO CALL YOU THAT IF YOU RUSTLE MY JIMJAMS!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/us/politics/comey-hearing-trump-russia.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/08/fbi-chief-james-comey-obstruction-case-president-donald-trump/102641614/

>Comey says Trump is lying
>Comey says there seems to be an attempt to coerce or garner loyalty from an FBI Director
>literally why we are holding a special committee.

You are being obtuse.

>>84048611
There is literally zero evidence Russia meddled in our elections. And when pressed on this, the left's response is always "Yeah, well, it's the sort of thing Russia would do and Putin's not a very nice guy, you know?"

>>84048594
could it be? A Whataboutism?

>>84048615
Too bad the President can fire or hire whoever he wants :)

Too bad so sad little liberals who get their political information from twitter and reddit.

Don't worry, I'm sure Trump will be In Peached any day now!

>>84048716
>Losing an election rigged in your favor.
Fucking loser.

>>84048611
>criticizing Putin and not being a Russian whataboutist shill
>is bait
Kill yourself

>>84048755
Could it be a 14-year-old troll who learned a new word today?

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>>84043592
>america is bad, so that makes russia okay
Good job, faggot.

>>84048764
>Too bad the President can fire or hire whoever he wants :)
Yes, nothing to see here. Totally coincidence he fired Comey ;) had nothing to do with Trump's administration and their relationships with Russia. Move along! Conspiracies only matter if they involve secret Illuminati Jews.
>Too bad so sad little liberals who get their political information from twitter and reddit.
Who? Me? Yes, I forgot NPR is twtiter.
>Don't worry, I'm sure Trump will be In Peached any day now!
I guess we will see what happens after the special committee, Trumpfag.

>>84048594
>the only shit Russia has done is alleged hacking
lol

>>84048803
Have you been paying attention to this thread? It is literally just a spiral of "whataboutisms". These Russian bots have not produced a single fucking argument defending Putin, just ignoring his terrible shit.

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>>84048716
ARE WE TIRED OF WINNING YET FOLKS?

>>84048715
>no replies to this
lmao, cocksuckers btfo

>>84048870
/pol/ and r_the/donald only care about news when it is nebulously about Jews or tangentially about Clinton.

>>84048754
>>84048764

Read the Gulag Archipelago.

>>84048754
>The NSA created fake classified documents detailing fake attempts to influence the election which were planted for Reality Winner to leak to further the fake narrative.

Grow up

>>84048715
>>84048715

So you can't post a quote and you didn't watch the hearing

> shitlib articles
> ny times

Comet already said nytimes is fake news

https://m.townhall.com/columnists/jackkerwick/2017/06/10/comey-testimony-no-obstruction-of-justiceat-least-not-on-trumps-part-n2338887

You have no case they are trying to build a case and you are hoping that they build a case based on what Comey said.

>>84048836
>>84048814
>>84048780

Look at the cute redditors, still pushing their anti-russia pro-war bullshit even after getting BTFO constantly.

You are the most useful idiots I've ever seen.

You've convinced us, we need to stop that madman Putin no matter what the cost! Did you know that hes EVIL? How do I know that? Well the nice man on my Tee Vee shows tells me that every night!

>>84048858
why would russians defend putin when what he does can be considered normal in presidential terms, especially if america is a standard to go by?

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>>84048867
I know I am

>>84048910
It was not the purpose of Comey's testimony to determine guilt or an obstruction of justice case.

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>>84048915
>reddit spacing
Like fucking clockwork

>jeff beal did the soundtrack for the interviews
based, haven't heard him in ages.

>>84048716
>R-russia hacked the election! Hillary told me so!

>>84048716
The majority of American voters supported her

>>84048915
>it's a "burgertard wonders why Putin is unpopular in the EU" thread

>>84048954
Do you have any other evidence besides what Comey said? I mean I know that thousands of libshits rode their bycicles to their local Starbucks last week to see Trump get BTFO by Comey but nothing of the sort happened.

>>84048901
Oh, yes, I forgot Putin can time travel.

>>84049030
Then why isn't she president?

>>84048858
Not falling for media hysteria and F.U.D makes you a Russia bot?

Because that's exactly what this is, pure unadulterated media hysteria in an attempt to distract from the monumental colossal failure of the Clinton campaign losing.

Logically and rationally looking at Russia without using the medias lens will show you the truth anon.

>>84048716
Bitch got BTFO hard.

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>>84049000
>A-assad is evil! Trump told me so!

>>84049031
Oh no, hes UNPOPULAR!

Quick, we need to institute a no fly zone over Syria and some useless sanctions as a flimsy pretense for war RIGHT AWAY.

We wouldn't want an UNPOPULAR person leading a country!

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>>84048910
>So you can't post a quote and you didn't watch the hearing
Are you fucking stupid? The NY Times has the exact fucking quote from the hearing in the goddamn article. You kids just don't like facts if you disagree with them.
>NY Times is a shitlib article because it says something I don't like.
What a fucking baby you are. Here, have another:

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-comey-investigation-obstruction-of-justice-2017-6

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN18Z0HC

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/10/532321287/is-trump-guilty-of-obstruction-of-justice-comey-laid-out-the-case

>Comey already said nytimes is fake news
Where, faggot? Where does he say that? Oh, that makes it true then?
>look at this one columnist that agrees with my narrative!
Kill yourself, faggot. Nearly every credible journalist and outlet is saying the same fucking thing in response to Comey's testimony. Your only argument is to screech and call it "FAKE NEWS REE". You are a useful idiot.
>You have no case they are trying to build a case and you are hoping that they build a case based on what Comey said.
Comey's testimony is literally why they are opening a special committee into obstruction, but Comey was never meant to determine the guilt or innocence of obstruction.

Get fucked, kid.

>>84048908
Man, the Deep State really did a bang up job convincing you lot that Americans are the good guys, always and forever.

>>84042101
Because Stone is a Commie loving faggot

>>84045569

He manages to be threatening and funny at the same time.

You can never tell where the line is.

>>84049056
The electoral system is the reason Hillary lost despite three million more people voting for her.

I unironically like Russians more than liberals.
If russia invaded california, I'd shoot the faggot communists fleeing into arizona.

>>84049030
Don't play checkers when your suppose to be playing a game of chess.

>>84048919
>killing journalists and minorities or political opponents
>is normal in Western democracy.
It's not. It's actually usually a big deal when it happens.

>>84049139
You mean the very system that America was founded on.

>>84049061
WHHHAAATTTTTTAAAAABBBBOOOOUUUUTTTTTTTIIISSSSSMMMM

>>84048428
they are retards who let a coup happen on their own government and then attacked anyone who resisted it

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>>84049109
You know what I meant nigger. Try asking anyone in the former Eastern Bloc if he's comfortable with Putin's throbbing invader cock looming over their home. If all you are left with is spinning words around then you have lost the argument tbqhwu.

>>84048716
she just needed another billion USD bros. It's not fair. Those koch brothers reeeeee

>>84049160
Yup, that one. In the end it didn't matter that more Americans voted for Hillary.

>>84048716
She's a loser baby.

>>84049051
Putin served/learned from people who committed all those atrocities. More specifically, from left-wing totalitarians who create a drone culture.

Funny thing is that is what they are doing today. No surprises there. Any Americans that think Putin/Russians are victims, or that criticizing him will cause WWIII need to have their tubes snipped.

>>84049159
of course it is, just not their own citizens. western democracies have no problem killing civilians in other countries of interest. and it almost never is a big deal.

>>84049115
You realize that firing the FBI director has no effect on the outcome of FBI cases right?

OH wait, you don't because your (((Trusted))) sources forget to mention this in their weekly anti-trump hit pieces.

>>84049200
>as butthurtbelter hobbits about Putin
lamao

>>84049242
WHAT
ABOUT
ISM

>>84048832
Comey was being a showboating reality show style moron because he liked the attention, much in the way people accuse Trump of doing. Like the letter Trump sent when he fired Comey said, Comey said to Trump multiple times that he wasn't under investigation, which he isn't supposed to do, but whenever Comey would speak under oath he'd just hide behind 'muh investigation', which was started by the fake dossier which they KNEW was fake but it was a good enough excuse for them to begin it.

Name one good thing Comey has done, either for his own organization for anyone in the nation. You can't, because he's a self serving attention whore.

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>>84049231
Meanwhile, based Trump is winning all the time!

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>>84048602
lol

>>84049228
>Wah wah wah change the constitution!

>>84049115
comey literally said the NYT story about trump campaign having repeated contacts with russia was false

>>84049262
>everyone loves Putin stop hating
>what about those people
>nuh uh they don't count :^)
Kremlbots are running low on energy tonight huh

>>84049242
Lel, blind Russian drone that doesn't like his dear leader being criticized.

>>84049299
I'm not the person you have been arguing wirh, just pointing out that your butthurt opinion of Vlad changes nothing, if he decides to crush you fucks he will do it.

>>84049246
>You realize that firing the FBI director has no effect on the outcome of FBI cases right?
Oh, I didn't realize we were gullible. Right, nothing happens when you remove people critical of you. I'm sure some totally impartial and fair Director that Trump picks is going to come in and just coincidentally..oh, I don't know, end the investigation?
>WAHHH DON'T CRITICIZE THE PRESIDENT WAHHH! IT IS A HIT PIECE!
Some of us don't want to just be in the fucking dark and suck him off. Sorry, if that was what you were looking for. But I hear r/the_donald has some great shilling if you want to try that. Might be more your speed. You can jack each other off about a wall that never gets built and how amazing our meme God emperor is.

Hell, why can't he just be our king and master, amirite you stooge?

>Putin hasn't watched Dr. Strangelove

what the fuck guys

what the actual fuck

Democrats literally have no future in America. The crazy Russian conspiracy theory has destroyed the credibility of the party.

Sometimes I go on social media and even here and pretend to be a dem who cries about the russian conspiracy.

Daily reminder that hating Russia is literally, LITERALLY brainwashing. There is literally NOTHING Putin does that american leaders dont do either. Westerners who live in the delusion that their countries are paragons of truth, honesty and justice are nothing but a hindrance to real progress.

America is engaged in a war with russia because has oil and gas and wants to sell. This is literally the only reason the american media and government demonizes Russia and Putin, because they stood to hold a great deal of power through the petrodollar. Americans that hatw Putin are truly pathetic, and will call him every name under the sun while exemplifying their own leaders who invade other countries and shoot down their air force when they try kill Muslim terrorists that America pays and arms

>>84049285
Source where he said it was fake.

>>84049228
Yep, it sure doesn't. But I'm sure one day you'll get the Globalist government you want, where the Chinese and Indian population's vote is more important than the rest of the planets.

>>84049115
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/alan-dershowitz-history-precedent-and-james-comeys-opening-statement-show-that-trump-did-not-obstruct-justice/article/2625318

spamming liberal opinion articles doesn't mean anything. I know the libshit case for it and it's paper thinI read all their opinion pieces . You are a parrot and a disgusting faggot. They have no evidence and no smoking gun Comey is their only witness and Muller hired an army or lawyers to try and build a case for obstruction of justice based on what Comey said.

>>84049271
Well, he did prevent the reauthorization of the Bush era wiretaps. And he sunk Hillary's campaign in the end. And he ensured the appointment of a special counsel via his strategic leaks.

What's the next step of his master plan?

>>84049306
putin can be credited for perfecting the strong populist archetype which i detest. his disciples include erdogan and more recently trump, both characters i also find detestable, although trump is certainly the most entertaining amongst the bunch. that said, it is disconcerting to see americans and their nato client states criticizing putin when their foreign intervention through the cia is responsible for the rise of most of these figures. it is also troublesome when a country that is notorious for foreign espionage, assassination and election rigging consistently claims moral high ground. it's sad to see real american patriots like manning and snowden suffer at the hands of the american corporate establishment.

>>84049285
source?
>>84048910

>Comet already said nytimes is fake news
source?

>>84049271
>Comey was being a showboating reality show style moron because he liked the attention
WHat in the literal fuck are you talking about and where did you get that?
>They "accuse" Trump of showboating
KEK, are you implying he doesn't? He's literally a reality tv star.
>which was started by the fake dossier which they KNEW was fake
It wasn't fake, Breitbart.
>Name one good thing Comey has done
Blew open all of Clinton's emails.

>>84043419
>Invaded Ukraine

you what

>>84049448
do you have a source saying that he didn't?

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>>84049382
>But I'm sure one day you'll get the Globalist government you want
I already got it :)

>>84049417
>putin can be credited for perfecting the strong populist archetype which i detest. his disciples include erdogan and more recently trump

The rest of your post is somewhat true so I have to assume this is sincere, and as such I recommend to you a fast suicide

>>84049417
> strong populist
Faggot do you prefer weak populism or something? Leftism is populism btw

>>84049236
I don't care if you criticize him. Criticize him all you want. He's not my boyfriend or anything. But don't accuse me of being a Russian shill just because I choose to remain skeptical of both sides for now.

>>84049362
Are you fucking kidding? A significant portion of Americans are self-hating assholes who feel bad about everything. We criticize the fuck out of our own country, and half the country wants to fight the other half. That's how a democracy works.

Russians don't have anyone there to call them out for their shit, because they are a corrupt totalitarian drone society. Anyone who criticizes Putin disappears, something they learned back during their hay day 1920's-40's, thus dealing with dissention.

The fact that in America we can have fucktards like BLM and KKK shows we are a more developed society. Russia is a shithole, also fuck off you commie.

You are a shill, or you have become one. Pathetic.

>>84049490
could you explain to me why i should do that based on the green-texted quote?

I take this back: >>84049353

He has watched it now, with Oliver stone

>there is actual footage of Vladimir Putin watching Dr. Strangelove and reacting to it

This was Oliver Stone's mission on earth. His purpose is finished.

>>84049386
>THEY ARE ALL LIBERUHHHHH OPINION ARTICLES!
NPR, Business Insider, NY Times, Reuters...they are all just libruh conspiracies I guess. To retards like you. But of course, this single opinion piece from a columnist you like, that's all you need for your pathetic little narrative.

What is it like to surround yourself with such a /pol/ safespace where you literally think Reuters is a liberal opinion site?

>>84049392
He sunk Hillary's campaign as a show of force. It was self serving and borderline schizophrenic and I say that as someone who was not a fan of Hillary.

I don't see why the bush era wiretaps matter when theres still intel being gathered all the time and unmasking happening. They've evolved. The appointment of the special counsel via leaking was no different than using a fake dossier to start draining more taxpayer money on a dead end investigation.

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>>84048754
There's just evidence that Russia theoretically might have hacked the elections

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>American political discourse

I think I'd rather get magic lessons from John Wayne Gacy than have to live with this shit.

>>84047802
Obama put severe sanctions on Russia in retaliation (providing an incentive for why Putin WOULD want to interfere in the election, dunce) and initiated a mini Cold War with Russia in Syria. What the fuck else would you want him to do? Initiate a land war and occupy Moscow for attacking an ally we have no defenders treaty with?

>>84049386
>Reuters
>liberal "opinion" site
Holy shit bud. You are in your own universe.

>>84049115
What you meant to say is that Comey(who is a noted liar who leaks to the press and is awful at his job) says that he "Thinks" that Trump fired him because of Russia.

Nowhere do you have an actual quote from Trump saying that, or any actual proof, but you do have about 50 fucking people who recommended firing him versus some new york times opinion pieces who are SURE Drumpf is going down because Comey "Thinks" he was fired over his investigations.

What your biased news sources omit to tell you, is that you can't actually obstruct justice by firing the FBI director, and their entire "case" is a joke of the highest order that useful idiots like you eat up because you dislike the President.

>>84049512
populism can be left or right wing dependent on the indoctrination of the populus, hence the name. you're right though, i meant strong, populist, strong as in macho and perceived to be singularly capable of leadership akin to a monarch, as opposed to western leaders whose bases are capable of understanding that a good leader can be good at only so many things and needs a system that surrounds him with both restrictions and equally capable personnel

>>84049386
>literally an opinion piece article
Pathetic fucking brainlet.

>>84045550
I think we all know the answer to that.

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>>84043051
Putin is a great guy. GREAT! Mashallah!

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>>84049613
>LALALALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING! I DISREGARD ALL THE NEWS I DON'T LIKE! I THINK THEY ARE ALL OPINION PIECES! THERE IS NO SPECIAL COMMITTEE FOR OBSTRUCTION! LALALALA MAGA SAVE ME! DON'T SOURCE ANY INFORMATION THAT MAKES ME LOOK SILLY, I'LL JUST SCREECH AND GO NOOOOOOO!!!!

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>>84042101
Those tyrans are nice people when you get to know them.
They don't have much opportunity to be nice to anyone, so when they meet a stranger they treat him like their best bud.

>>84049528
Because if you sincerely believe such a thing then you are too susceptible to brainwashing and are a danger to society

>>84049444
I didnt put accuse in quotes moron, trump showboats and thats his whole schtick but hes honest about it. Wikileaks and anonymous sources blew open hillarys emails. He pretended to care so that everyone would calm down and act like business was being taken care of. Loretta Lynch told him to minimize it by referring to it as a "matter" instead of an "investigation". He literally admitted to this under oath but you ignore it.

Go ahead and pretend your epic MI6 kremlin dossier is real, and not just fabricated disinformation used to start a fraudulent investigation to weaken a populations faith in the current administration.

>Wah wah wah the electoral college!
>Wah wah wah Russia hacked the election!
>Wah wah wah Comey!
>Wah wah wah muh Trump is the next Hitler!
>Wah wah wah muh gay rights!
>Wah wah wah muh 63 genders!
>Wah wah wah why can't everyone be gay?!
>Wah wah wah muh open borders!!
>Wah wah wah muh violent minorities!

I love this timeline

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Hey faggots actual fucking /tv/ here

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>>84049730

>>84049598
Oh no, severe sanctions?

I'm sure noted billionaire oligarch Putin and his billionaire buddies are totally threatened when their lapdog Obama nips their pant legs in a pathetic attempt to punish them with sanctions.

But remember, Trump is the one we should be worried about! Not the guy who let Russia take over countries on his watch.

>>84049587
Hacking the DNC or Podesta's email account is not the same as hacking the elections.

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>>84049613
>these faggots weren't this skeptical during Obama's two terms on literally anything.
>Now, all of a sudden, they are absolute skeptics on every morsel of info and disregard anything that may make meme man look bad
I'm loving every second of this damage control, all the way to when he resigns.

>>84049708
sure but what about it is wrong? the modernized autocratic populist figure is more or less putin, i've been following erdoğan take putin's lead for a while now and trump's public relations remind me of both of these figures. obviously i'm not saying putin was the first or even the best dictator, but that he modernized the role very efficiently and made a good role-model for other oligarchies to follow, from state-investments to social policies to press conferences.

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>>84049730
>>84049760
>when putin divulges that controlling retaliatory weapons systems like the doomsday device in dr strangelove is even more difficult and dangerous in real life

fug

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>>84049714
>Wikileaks and anonymous sources blew open hillarys emails.
...and Comey.
>He literally admitted to this under oath but you ignore it.
Prove it.
>and not just fabricated disinformation used to start a fraudulent investigation to weaken a populations faith in the current administration.
ABLOO ABLOO WAHHH!! DON'T SMEAR MUH MEME GOD! IT'S ALL JUST A CONSPIRACY TO WEAKEN OUR FAITH IN TRUMPO!

How do you people get this fucking brainwashed? You actually think this is all just an attempt to witch hunt Trump and "weaken our faith in the current administration?" You don't think it's more Occam's Razor here of "he is an idiot when it comes to running a country and he is making sophomore mistakes?" You can't accept that though, because that makes you fans look silly to put all your eggs in this dumb faggot's basket.
>The dossier is faked because I said so
Show me it's fake. Explain to me why.

I am going to hazard a guess and say you can't. You are fed Breitbart bullshit and regurgitate it on here for your autistic agendas.

>newfags and shills attacking russia for being subversive
>doesn't understand the relationship between Israel and the united states

Blind as fuck.

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>>84049813
T*rkroach im not sure about, but to say that trumps manner of speaking with the public is influenced by Putin shows you habe resolutely no idea what you are saying, and should stop forging political opinions based on what you see on the internet

>>84049898
Prove that russia hacked the election.

Oh right you can't kikel.

>try to have a discussion about Putin
>half of the posts are a stupid flamewar between alt-right kike-lovers and SJW cucks

Sigh...

>>84042941
Shit I should have opened this thread first

>>84049980
>Prove that russia hacked the election.
I can't because the investigation isn't over yet.

>>84049930
KEK

>>84043226
This is bait.

>a board full of marvel/dc fans is heavily blinded by leftist propaganda

Wow that's so surprising! I bet you morons are okay with Jews running the entire media as well.

>>84049993
That is literally not what has happened in this thread in the slightest. There is a handful of actual Russian bots throwing shit-tier whataboutism arguments to attract r/the_donald redditors here.

>>84049776
And you guys didn't care when Obama was drone-striking the Middle East like it's going out of style. But when Trump does it and he's a heartless, blood-thirsty monster.

>>84050013
>he thinks there's an investigation and not just some media sham to bait morons like you into clicks and views.

You're dumb as fuck.

>>84049898
>"he is an idiot when it comes to running a country and he is making sophomore mistakes?"

Too bad the anti-trump media collusion started long before he was even sworn in.

You're so delusional that you couldn't give Trump enough rope to hang himself, you had to start an "investigation" before he was even in the white house, giving your ENTIRE narrative away.

Now you're trying to start something because Turmp fired someone, despite firing and replacing heads of departments is something EVERY president has done.

But you'll never see a NYTimes article about how Obama or Bill fired their enemies and replaced them, because that would ruin the narrative.

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>>84050042
>THESE DUM DUMS FALL FOR DA LEFTEEE PROPAGANDA!
>REEEE BUT THE JEWS RUN ALL THE MEDIA OMFG LITERALLY SHAKING!

>>84049937
eh, erdogan mostly draws from putin and trump from erdogan, so i guess the link is more indirect than the original post implied. trump is obviously much more vocal and careless in his attitude, but the planned bits of his media interaction, namely his media representatives and his organized public showings are not too dissimilar. i would suggest taking a second look without the surrounding media noise to try and notice the subtle parallels. not that trump could ever be as good, he lacks the character strength and discipline required to pull it off. putin is an army man and an athlete, and erdogan was an islamic militant and did jail-time for it. trump is too soft.

>be on /tv/
>putin watching kino
>putin opining on kino
>no one cares

Fucking shills, BOTH SIDES OF YOU

>>84050095
>Using the word kino
>Pretending your opinion matters
Fuck off kinotard.

>>84048483
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_presidential_election,_2008

Which one of those is Putin?