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Great banter

Checked the last couple threads, couldn't find it. Link to mega?

>>84018427
you assholes hate Bill?

>oh, you're gay?
.how quaint, we're all double-gay back in ancient Roman Scotland

Since the TARDIS psychic field was what was making them able to speak to each other does that mean that as soon as Kar and the lads went through the portal they ceased being able to communicate?

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>>84018511
Checked

>>84018577
yes

s a l t y r o b e r t s

https://twitter.com/OldRoberts953/status/876246657834340352

>>84018427
Didn't only like 30 people die? Still way too many, WAAAAAAY too many deaths, wise old men, brand new creatures and age old enemies, but still, saying hundreds of people died is a bit of an exaggeration mate.

haven't seen the ep yet, no idea what to expect, what's the /who/ reaction. General rating?

>>84018654
bad enough to kill the show again/10

>>84018654

Same as most of this season: literally no strong feelings whatsoever

>>84018654
Felt like Stevie Wonder because I couldn't see shit half the time

Can't find any goddamn links to watch the ep, help me out so I can get it over with

>>84018654
It's a solid 7/10 imo

>>84018800
https://rarbg.to/torrents.php?search=doctor+who

>>84018654
romans were blacks and gays

Wtf, I've only pulled once and I waz so blind drunk I can't rem wot I was even doing. I can never repeat

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>>84018800
>Not downloading every episode in 1080p

>>84018859
>wasting more than a gigabyte per episode for this shitty series

First for Clara ruining two doctors

>>84018744
>Felt like Stevie Wonder because I couldn't see shit half the time

But Stevie Wonder can't see shit any of the time

This season would feel more cohesive if the entire Monk trilogy and Knock Knock were taken out.

>>84018508
Aayyyy lmao

>>84018914
>wasting any hard drive space on doctor who

>>84018914
>not having unlimited high speed internet

>>84018920
>Clara
>not Moffat's shitty scriptwriting

shit guys I was posting in other thread thinking I was on /who/
It took me a while to realize I wasn't here

>>84018640
70+ missing tho
>>84018802
kys

>>84019054
>says hundreds died
>only 30 died with 70 possible victims missing
>even if all 70 are dead thats ONE hundred
>hunDRED
>not hunDREDS

>>84019054
>kys
edgy

>>84018964
I like to think of it like SAO Ordinal Scale and Cars 3.

Dumb bitch + writer retardation = ruined main character and show/movie

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>just finally get round to watching the episode now
>one minute in
>crow literally squawking "DOCTOR"
Don't know why I even bother.

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1/10 episode
dropping the show

>>84019287
See you in a couple of days then

>>84011354
>Moffat re-does sherlock's "the lying detective"
So Bill is doctor's imagery friend all along.

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>60's Cybermen
>Murray Gold's Cybermen theme
>Not the original Cybermen theme
D R O P P E D

>>84019335
There weren't any imagery friend in the Lying Detective tho, the one persone that he supposedly imagined was his sister

>>84019230
Oh, don't worry. It gets worse later.

>>84018654
Bill reminded us she's a lesbian, so automatically 4/10

>>84019134
but atleast I don't like eaters of light

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>Roman soldier doesn't immediately rape Bill

how the fuck are they going to bullshit the old master back

>>84018802
I actually got emotional at the end.

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>>84019537
Black Roman hasn't already stolen and eaten their remaining food supply

>>84019560
CAW CAW

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just finished watching The Eaters of Light and och aye what an episode

what did /who/ think?

to me it felt very Classic Who - then again that might be because Rona Munro wrote it but hey

desu I thought from the promo pics that the face-paint was like a sign of unearthly possession or something, but no it's just face-paint

I'm seriously upset that this is Michelle Gomez's last series as Missy though

would you give Simmaster a kiss

>>84019376
just seems like the standard deal for Next Time music, though I do hope we get a modernized version of that music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vP4xfTNSXM

>>84019605
Missy got freakin' DUMPED

>>84018654
It's... an episode. The mystery wasn't really interesting, the characters were mostly annoying, the monster wasn't threatening outside of it's first scene, and the big emotional climax was just dry. The last five minutes of the episode were better than the rest of it.

Also, taking time out of the plot to once again remind us how gay Bill is, but that's okay, because she's among Romans, and they're all okay with that!

I get she's a lesbian. You didn't need to remind us that she was. Also, there are black centurians and everyone is gay or bi now way back when. That's cool.. i mean it's not like there was a shortage but you could at least leave that shit out. Oh look, "Nardie" is telling us about the vault for the hundredth fucking time. no that's okay. It wasn't annoying at all.

What a mess of an episode.
I liked the season so far but this was ass. 3/10. Would've been 0 if not for The Doctor himself.

>>84019609
sup mr fidget spinner

>>84019300
You're gonna miss out...

>>84019693
this is sort of the usual standard of "pre-finale standalone episode"

this episode - it was alright
Sleep No More - shite
Forest - what
Nightmare in Silver - alright I guess

Do I enan hav friends?

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>>84019760
we can be friends

>>84018511
https://mega.nz/#!sHRQGAQS!4iyRExlbEHbR8lLUEBuS1H_7WmKGM0RMOULP7eV0UVM

>>84019774
I'm not in sane state of mind but k

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>you go outside at night to take the garbage out
>then from around the corner you see him staring at you

what do

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P O L I T C A L C O R E V T N E S

What if the Master isn't actually there? What if he's a hallucination, experienced by Missy as she struggles to bury her dark side? What if Simm – the old, unreformed Master, complete with sinister beard – represents all of Missy's wickedness, her amorality?

Could he be the devil on her shoulder, with the Doctor as the angel?

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>>84020023
shit that's good

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Ohhhh ja

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>>84020104
I drink ze beer from ze glass
But das boring. Das Boot
Oooo yaaahh
Das more like it keep pouring
I have ze German accent
So of course I love beer
But how much can ze boot hold
Eins, Zwei, Drei?
Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier!

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T O P B A N T S

>>84018654
Mediocre like the rest of the season

>>84018832
10/10 for historical accuracy

fuck arse

I CAN'T STAND THE CONFUSION IN MY MIND

>>84020023
That'd be cool, actually. I'd much rather that be the case than have Simm return in full.

I tell you, Brigadier, there's nothing to worry about. The brontosaurus is large and placid!

Nice story, but I'm sick of all the politically correct shit being shoved down my throat.

Also Missy is too fucking cute when she's not insane and evil.

>>84020996
A N D
S T U P I D

Where is everyone? Join us in CASUALWHOSTREAM

List of Moffats bullshit you are glad to see go just from this episode
>crows can speak
>crows make the noise they make cause of some magical girl
>oh your x group well I one up you by being even more rare

Anything I missed? I can't wait for chibnall to take over

>>84021998
Oh I forgot
>doctor willingly sacraficing himself in the stupidest ways for people he only met

>>84022073
>>84021998
you forget this was written by an OldWho writer so she was probably still in that mindset

>>84018832
But there were both black and gay romans. It's pretty well documented. This is the least revisionist minority inclusion this season. I know Thin Ice was retarded and Empress was pushing it, but people are complaining about nothing this time.

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>opening titles out of sync again

This episode almost makes me want to stop watching forever

>>84018932
>this season would feel more cohesive if the episodes that first reveal missy is in the vault were taken out

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>>84022073
oh you mean the television and multimedia franchise doctor who? yeah I know the one

>>84022106
So why is there so many moffatisms in it? Did he add them?

>>84022372
this bugged me too - why the fuck haven't they done something about this

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Someone post the bingo, we got some editing to do

>crows can talk
Why?

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>>84022478

oh shit I forgot to ask: how about that War Master announcement

how are they gonna get away with this

>>84022478
I love how we put everyone except the actual person who was in the Basement/Vault

>>84022543
Getting real sick and tired of the Time War and Daleks now. I guess it's good to have the best modern Master back though.

>best part of the episode was a Nardole one liner
wew id hate to see this series without him

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>>84022521

Was this the first capaldi episode where he didn't use a sonic thing?

>>84023134
oh yeah, i never noticed

>>84023134
did he use the glasses in heaven sent?

>>84023322
I think he did to examine either the 12 door or the wall

Finale looks like a clusterfuck tbqh.

Which is a good thing.

>>84018654

I only saw it a few hours ago but I'm struggling to remember anything from it.

>"Guardians of the Light, advance!"
>band follows them in
AHAHAHAHA

Also what's the deal with the instability closing the gate behind them? Are to gather that shit just stayed closed?

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>>84023598
Yeah, it seems like it's gonna be full on. Cybermen, Master, Missy, Mondas and whatever happens to Bill and Nardole. Thank god it TDF gets 1 hour. I wonder if the modern Cybermen really are just a flashback whilst it's being explained to Bill or something.

So I feel that the Doctor's power comes from his sheer knowledge as a Time Lord and obviously knowing nearly everything will make you extraordinarily powerful.

>>84023732
yeah, I'm not sure who's gonna bite the bullet, Nardole or Bill - I really want to see Bill meet 13 though

I'm also curious to see whether or not we're getting a cliffhanger lead-in for a LONG wait to Christmas or if we're gonna get some space in between for the DWM/Titan comic adventures to take advantage of

Why was the doctor so grumpy? Was it because he was in scotland?

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>>84023896

>>84018427
So when's Dr. Who fun again instead of dark and dreary?

>>84023949
dunno about Dr. Who but Doctor Who's just fine

tfw no comfy outfit like nardole

>>84023949
S10 hasn't even been dreary
I miss the dreary

>>84023993
all Nardie wanted to do was sleep in today but noooo the Doctor just HAD to let Bill look for Romans

we should start a charity appeal for him

#ProtectNardieFromGrumpyScotsmen

>>84023886
Fuck you and fuck Bill.
Nardole is the best character in the show.

>>84024006
Are you kidding, anon? Every episode has had that dark blue filter like series 8 and 9. It's depressing.

>>84024034
Bill is a disruptive influence
Everything was right between the Doctor and Nardole before Bill came up and ruined everything

>Nardole
>YOUR OATH, DOCTOR
>:(

>also Nardole
>yo missy take me to mars lmao

>but Nardole again
>YOU CANNOT MOVE
>FROM THE VAULT WHEN SEALED
>OR THE RAID
>BLOWS
>UP

Fuck Nardole's writing

>>84024104
t. Nardole

>>84024107
>Nardole, Missy is now gonna be helping out around the TARDIS
>[TRIGGERED ANGERY SQUEAKY VOICE]

>>84024089
Are you so easily manipulated that your entire impression of an episode is based on the colors?

>>84024104
I'm trying to figure out who's the "daddy's new girlfriend that the kids don't like" in this situation, Missy or Bill

Eaters of Light is a pleb filter.

>See that's what I'm trying to teach you Missy
>You understand the universe, you see it, you grasp it...but you've never learnt to hear the music
[SOUND OF DRUMS INTENSIFIES]

>>84023886
Yeah who knows. Obviously something is going to happen to the Doctor and he begins the regeneration process in the finale since he said he's already filmed it so I'm guessing it'll be a soft cliffhanger, if that is even something

>>84023886
>>84024191
The Doctor gets killed and starts to regenerate in the cliffhanger
The entire Christmas special takes place inside his "mind palace"

>>84024235
Yeah it could be this. Good excuse to bring back Clara and Bill (if she does die). Although the whole mind palace thing is getting annoying and cheap

What does 'World Enough and Time' mean? I know it's from a poem.

>>84024367
Enough world and time

>>84024291
>implying a whole hour in the mind TARDIS with 1 and Clara apparitions wouldn't be kino as hell

>>84024403
>1 and Clara apparitions
Not even William Hartnell, so forget it. Clara is an annoying bitch, so nah I'm good.

HOLD THE FUCK UP
bill was gay this whole time?

>>84024163
FUCK right OFF

>>84024521
The only thing that's been repeated more often than the fact that Bill is gay is this joke.

>>84024584
It's one of the best of the season. Definitely in the top three.

>>84024163
I thought EoL was passable. It had a couple nice moments but it's not particularly memorable

>>84024637
I'm glad some people like it, especially since it's Rona

Explain to me in a 200+ word essay what about Eaters of Light was particularly high quality or worth commending

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>>84024726

>>84024637
It's third shittest

>>84018427
>admitted faggots in a 2nd century Roman legion
>homosexuality was punishable by death in the legions until the 4th century

Thanks for fucking that up, Doctor Who.

OFFICIAL SERIES 10 POWER RANKINGS

GOAT
[empty]

GREAT
Extremis
Oxygen

GOOD
Empress of Mars
Eaters of Light
The Pilot
Thin Ice

OKAY
Smile
Knock Knock
Lie of the Land

SHITE
Pyramid at the End of the World

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>It looks familiar somehow
So Mondas is back. But what continents are seen in the little shot?

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>yfw the 3 remaining capaldi episodes are all written by moffat and there's no telling if they'll be kino or shit

>>84025025
Extremis
Oxygen
Thin Ice
The Pilot
Empress of Mars
Lie of the Land
Knock Knock
Eaters of Light
Smile
Pyramid

So the tardis translator thing works on people who have never even been in the tardis now?

>>84025025
Extremis
Empress of Mars
Eaters of Light
Pyramid at the End of the World
Oxygen
Thin Ice
Knock Knock
The Pilot
Smile
Lie of the Land

>>84025083
>>84025306
You weren't listening
I said those were the OFFICIAL power rankings
As in, anything else is objectively incorrect
So why bother posting those incorrect lists?

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>>84025335
>too insecure with his opinions to put them into an actual list, instead splitting them up into categories.

>>84025024
Maybe it was a collective "Everyone's dying" disclosure?

>>84025380
Are you not familiar with the concept of power rankings?

>>84025247
It's a telepathic FIELD you don't need to be in the Tardis

>>84025381
I can buy that, I suppose. What I won't buy is them using 'centurion' as a collective rank. It's like they don't even try.

>>84025543
fuck you're right, I just remembered the christmas invasion and how everyone started understanding the sycorax after the doctor woke up. Not that the translation being tied to the doctor's consciousness makes any sense but it was the same thing where people who hadn't been in the tardis yet could hear english

>>84025048
They are series finales, we all know the answer.

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Give us a kiss!

>>84026158
Why is Ashens on Doctor Who?

>>84026016
>episode 11 will be GOAT
>episode 12 will be polarizing due to a couple specific moments that trigger fan autism and/or don't do what was expected of the story
>episode christmas will try to be lighthearted while also being emotional at the same time and will fail to do either

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>>84026158

>>84018654
This was legitimately good atmospheric awesomeness. It kept to the themes of war, and sacrifice that is in a lot of 12's eps. Bill and Nardole felt fully functional; they seem to have finally found a good rhythm.

We're actually gonna get a Twelve, Bill, Missy, and Nardole team-up.

>>84024637
I agree. It might be one of the highlights of Twelve's era.

>>84019973
Why go and hug him and ask when the fuck he will do audios.

DEATH BY SCOTLAND

>>84026389
new meme

The Doctor regenerates at the end of the Doctor Falls. The Christmas special, titled the Odyssey of the Doctor, explores what happens in his mind and what he goes through during regeneration. That's Moffat's idea and like he said it's never been done before.

>>84026890
nice

>>84027121
Do I have to come look in your ass for that sauce

I remember! I brought the others back, I can bring you home, too. Raggedy man, I remember you, and YOU ARE LATE FOR MY WEDDING-AH!

>>84018654
Another stinker. Only upside is there's one less Moffat run episode to dread

>>84027231
you're more than welcome to ;3

>>84027121
nice amalgamation of various bullshit /who/ nonsense that you've been repeating day in and day out, it all comes together

>>84024726
Sorry I think I made it too long. You did say 200+.

The Eaters of Light is an exceptional example of what’s expected from Doctor Who while also having its own unique feel. Right from the beginning it sets itself apart. Note how in retrospect the obvious (read: cliché) choice for a cold open is to show some Romans stumbling around in the dark for a minute before being attacked by an offscreen creature, but instead we get something much more intriguing and memorable, seeing the aftermath of the episode’s events in a way that only hints at what the episode will be about. Similarly, the crows and the lingering music are beautiful touches that were predictably maligned by people who can’t accept or aren't even aware of the idea of lack of realism as a deliberate, valid artistic choice; in a word, plebs. It’s fitting that a story about the meeting of two ancient civilizations, one of which we know almost nothing about, reads in part like a myth and it actually approaches the “fairy tale” aspect of Moffat’s Doctor Who in a way that nothing else in his eight year long era has. Despite this, it also engages with real history in a way that almost none of the new series has, portraying a real historical conflict in a nuanced way that’s highly critical of the Romans without demonizing them as heartless monsters. Compare to the hamfisted message and cartoonish villain of Thin Ice or the complete disinterest in history as anything other than a background for aliens to invade over or a place to meet a particular famous person seen in most new series historicals. We haven’t really had something like this since Human Nature/The Family of Blood.

cont.

i swear to fucking god if the doctor regenerates because he was mad that bill died i will go fucking ballistic

>>84027292
And yet, The Eaters of Light is mostly conventional. The conventions are just done really well. The monster is very good looking by Doctor Who standards and the deaths suffered by its victims are nice and gruesome while being safely PG, pretty much what the “turn people into cubes” gun in Empress of Mars failed to be. All of the main cast is on form. The best moment is either “Did you hear that sound? That was my patience shattering” or Nardole telling stories to the Picts when the Doctor emerges from the cave. But Bill in particular has really come into her own now. She’s gone from being entirely reactive and constantly in awe of the Doctor in her early episodes to someone who’s able to take charge of a situation and willing to stand up to the Doctor. In the Monk arc she was developing more independence and now she’s even picking up some of the Doctor’s positive traits. Recall in Thin Ice when the Doctor makes a speech about the value of human life that has Bill wishing she could make a speech like that and compare to this episode, where Bill inspires the Romans with a very 12-esque speech of her own. Of course, this character development has gone right over the heads of those who don’t pay attention and will claim that Bill is a completely static character or has no personality beyond being gay; in a word, plebs.

cont.

>>84027316
The portrayal of Roman attitudes to sexuality may go beyond the bounds of historical accuracy, but it’s not completely baseless and is at least an interesting subversion of the expectation that Bill will always be the target of discrimination and prejudice, certainly a better one than the lame blue person jokes in Oxygen. Naturally, people hated the scene for bringing up Bill’s sexuality in any way at all, since apparently any mention of homosexuality is painful to them. In a similar vein, the fact that a woman is entrusted with the task of fighting off an other-dimensional monster isn’t the most credible thing, but it doesn’t really matter when Kar is written as a character with flaws rather than the stereotypical strong independent woman who can do everything on her own. The Romans, sparse as their characterization is, are also given enough to be identifiable and sympathetic, which is impressive given the power of Kar’s big speech condemning them. In particular it’s worth comparing them to the cast of Knock Knock, another bunch of youngsters in over their heads and hunted by monsters but with much less chemistry and agency. In fact, it’s hard to find an episode in series 10 that The Eaters of Light doesn’t compare favorably to. Extremis maybe, just because it was such a different kind of episode. It’s pacey, clever, thoughtful, unique, I’m not sure what more you could ask from the show.


Also I didn’t have trouble seeing anything, haven’t got a clue what anons are talking about with the episode being too dark.

>>84027292
>>84027316
>>84027335
I disagree

>>84027335
We know that Romans had blacks and poofs but historical accuracy isn't the reason that was put in this episode and

Starting the Divergent Universe arc, lads. What am I to expect?

>>84027507
shite

>>84027507
Writers being unable to formulate what it is about. There's some good stuff there, though.

Watching Planet of Fire.

Holy SHIT Peri's accent is dreadful. I've seen Attack of the Cybermen and The Mysterious Planet and her accent is nowhere near this bad in those... right?

Also,
>It's yet another anti-religious "alien civilisation prays to a god that ends up being some alien and still practices human sacrifice" episode
One of the cliffhangers is going to be The Doctor or somebody about to be sacrificed, I presume? This is like the 500th episode with this exact premise, and it got old in Season 8.

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>mfw I finished The Mind Robber for the first time.
I didn't think it would be that fucking good, holy shit.

I want to protect Missy's smile.

>>84027706
He who is tired of anti-religious "alien civilisation prays to a god that ends up being some alien and still practices human sacrifice" episodes is tired of life.

Can female writers stay away from Doctor Who?

Helen Raynor? A hack.
Catherine Tregenna? A hack.
Sarah Dollard? A hack.
Rona Munro? A classic hack, but still a hack nonetheless.

THE FIRST SECOND

OF ETERNITY

WILL HAVE PAAASSSED

It's hard to be wowed by anything this season when they spoil everything in the Next Time sections

World Enough and Time has such a GOAT premise that Moffat can't fuck it up... can he? ;_;

>>84028186
just watch him

Ratings are in.

2.89 million.

Ouch.

>>84027507
Two or three excellent stories among a bunch of disappointing ones.

>>84028186
The premises is indeed GOAT. Test Missy and see how she betrays in a situation but it will of course backfire in the Doctor's face, but will Missy betray him or stay faithful to him?

Moffat cannot fuck this up however this goes, Missy gets her own actual episode and companions. Anything else is a plus.

Missy throws someone from the crew into the black hole in World Enough and Time.

>"Well there's only one way to find out and you're all expendable, oi you, blue munchkin, say wheeee!"
>"AAAAAAAH!"

>>84028234
This is literally the lowest ratings ever.

>>84028234
Rona Munro is cursed

>>84028234
Uh oh.

>>84028068
I suppose I am tired of life, but I'm more tired of Doctor Who writers having no originality and doing the same shit over and over and over again

That said, PoF certainly picked up in part two, and the cliffhanger (which I predicted) was actually done slightly better than I had imagined

Also: is Peter Davison wearing eyeliner?

>>84024726
The gatekeeper girl was cute. Almost as good waifu material as wetfu

>>84028234
Holy shit, that is bad. In fact, ratings were bad for all TV shows last night.

World Enough and Time ending:
>Nardole is with Missy trying to fly spaceship whilst it is crashing
>Missy turns on him and he gets vaporised
>Cut to Bill and Razor who are below decks in the sick bay.
>Bill has just awoken to being tied down in her bed and looks petrified.
>Razor: I lied, I'm the surgeon and this is going to hurt.
>*Removes mask*
>Simm: Give us a kiss
>Cut to Capaldo who has realised that Razor is Simm
>Running through a corridor to warn Bill
>He's finding it hard to run, explosions left right and centre.
>Encounters man in corridor
>Capaldo: "Do you mind not standing in my way I'm trying to save my best friend from mortal peril. Who might you be, anyway?"
>Alex Macqueen turns
>"Why, I'm known simply as The Master"
>Cliffhanger

>>84028234
Fuck, I thought you were joking.
We're literally in season 26 territory here.

>>84028234
Even if it gets another million by next week, this would still rank with the top 10 worst rated episodes in Who history.

>>84028684
Even with 2.89m viewers, this was still 22% of the total viewing audience and most watched in the time slot.

Chibbers has the right idea by hoping to get a Sunday night time slot. More families are home Sunday evenings.

>>84028234
It's well established that ratings aren't as important anymore

>>84027990
One of my favs, been rewatching it every year since I was like 8 back in 07 or something

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>>84028862
Why the fuck is that orange line there on the left side?

>>84028249
What do I listen to, what do I skip and why?

>>84028626

>not him turning and saying "Hello You"

>>84028917

The Creed of the Kromon - crap, but introduces C'Rizz
The Last - Nice post apocalyptic story
The Natural History of Fear - less said about this the better. Just listen, it's good.
The Next Life - Conclusion of the Divergent Universe arc

>>84018654
WE WUZ ROMINS N' SHEEIT

>>84028831
>Doctor Who not on Saturdays at 7pm
HERESY

Good point though, less people are out on Sundays.
BUT
Overnights don't matter anymore - Sky+ and iPlayer exist. It could air at 4am on a Tuesday, really, people who want to see it will still see it

In fact if it was on at 4am it wouldn't clash with any other programs and perhaps even more people could record it, hmm?

Chibnall is either going to make Doctor Who a hit again or kill it for good.
Either has to be better than the inexorable decline of the last few years.

>>84028977
Well Broadchurch was a hit, but Doctor who is a completely different sort of show.

Speaking of which, Broadchurch is fantastic.

>>84028917
Scherzo is great.
The Creed of the Kromon is awful, but it introduces a new companion.
The Natural History of Fear is excellent.
The Twilight Kingdom is pretty mediocre.
Faith Stealer is alright-ish.
The Last is pretty mediocre.
Caerdroia is very good.
The Next Life is awful, but it ties up the arc.

>>84029027
Just listened to Scherzo. Another general question: Should I finish listening to all of 8's adventures with Charley or can I jump into the EDAs?

>>84029027
>The Creed of the Kromon is awful, but it introduces a new companion.
Was it really awful awful?

>>84029070
Eh, I remember thinking it was alright last time I listened to it. I'd never rate it over like a 6/10, though. Shame cause Philip Martin is usually a much better writer.

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K I N O

>>84029198
GIVE HIM A KISS MISSY

>>84018654
same as this whole series, bar the pilot which I quite liked
>DUDE SHOEHORNED SJW ISSUES LMAO
the writing seriously drops in quality as a result, it's so fucking blatant and out of place

>>84029070

It's basically a worse version on Vengeance on Varos.

why are the romans bad guys and also black? isnt that racist

>>84029051
Listen to The Girl Who Never Was and then jump into the EDAs.

Legally downloaded (kek) the Doom Coalition audios. What am I in for?

>>84029328
Nothing worthwhile inbetween?

>>84029051
I think there's some really good stuff after the Divergent Universe arc. Especially Terror Firma, though it's the kind of story people either love or hate.

>>84029070
Yes, but you need to be able to recognize C'rizz's voice in the following story.

>>84024726
The cute girl

>>84027990
where can I watch this?

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TWISSY

Kamelion no good. :(

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why are there precise light beams coming directly from the torches?

please stop watching this garbage. The writing gets worse and worse and worse and it clearly has agendas the writers want to push and its done incredibly bluntly.
How can you keep watching this trash? do you enjoy brain damage?

>>84029351
Doom Coalition 1 and 2 aren't that great apart from The Red Lady in DC1.

DC3 and 4 are massive improvements and are worth your time much more. Sadly, Doom Coalition is very arc heavy so you can't really skip around all that much.

>>84029646
go to bed cletus

does the doctor still fix everything with his sonic screw driver or a corny speech?

>>84029646
We are all autistic.

>>84029671
There's only been like one episode where the sonic screwdriver saved the day this series

Tonally, Eaters of the Light felt very different from the rest of the season and even the rest of the show. It reminded me of Woman Who Lived in that way. Suddenly it felt like I was watching a different show, that mostly consisted of people in rooms talking to each other (but in a good way). It still had its problems of course.

But I think my new ranking probably looks something like:

Extremis
Thin Ice
Eaters of the Light
Empress of Mars
Oxygen
Smile
Knock Knock
The Pilot
Pyramid
Lie of the Land

>>84029687
>mostly consisted of people in rooms talking to each other
This has literally been every single episode this series. They just stand in rooms and talk. Nothing is ever happening.

>>84029687
>people in rooms talking to each other
Classic Who in a nutshell

>>84029351
A very superflous companion and some weak start. I also got so confused by the penultimate story I never listened by the last one.

But there's doom and there's a coalition about it, so you can't say it doesn't deliver what it promises.

>>84029716
at least the acting in the older series was extreamly convincing for some episodes so it was incredibly easy to forget the glaring flaws and just be immersed and enjoy the story.

Take a Smith or Tennant episode and turn it into a Capaldi episode.

Suddenly, instead of running around and blowing things up, the Doctor stands in a room and talks down the monster of the week for 40 minutes.

>>84029635
Whew, I've seen some bad effects in my life, but that's a special kind of retarded.

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>>84029745
neater crop

>>84029752
>saying this like it isn't an improvement
All of the best 10/11 eps are the ones that aren't about running around and blowing things up

>>84029351
Just enjoy each episode on its own terms and you may have a good time. The arc is really not worth thinking about.

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How excited would you all get if the Doctor regenerated into one of his previous forms? It's been established that it's possible... So I'm wondering if we'll be getting to see that early.

>yfw David Tennant comes back

>>84020850

Yeah, I didn't really like the Simm master. Missy still isn't my preferred Master but at least she's got some charisma.

>>84029777
But every Capaldi episode has been like this and 3/4 haven't been good.

>>84029815
>3/4 have been good.
fixed

what are the best classic episodes? I thoroughly enjoyed pretty much every 3rd doctor episode, how can I get ahold of 1st and 2nd doctor episodes? and I watched alot of 4th episodes until ...it got some really crappy episodes. How do you go about watching 1st and 2nd doctor episodes when so much footage is missing? do you just read about the episode?

>>84029790
Die.

>>84029790
no your thinking like a pea brained imbecile, think bigger ..think ...Sean Pertwee as Jon Pertwee yes? yes!

>>84029716
Yeah, that's probably why both Eaters of the Light and Woman Who Lived gave off such a Classic Who feeling to me.

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>>84029790

>>84029854
And why they were shit.

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>>84029868

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>This is Captain Zachary Cross Flane of Sanctuary Base Six, representing the Torchwood archive. You will identify yourself.
But Torchwood was destroyed 2000 years before these events?

>>84029868
Try watching again once your Adderall's kicked in.

Did the Doctor allow people to literally murder the creature? He literally told them to use their weapons to slash the creature.

>>84029890
It was presumably rebuilt.

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H Y P E

>>84029829
I just watch the ones that exist in full
There are also some which have their missing episodes animated

The Aztecs, The Chase, The Tenth Planet, The Moonbase, The Tomb of the Cybermen, The Ice Warriors, The Enemy of the World, The Dominators, The Mind Robber, The Invasion, The Krotons, The Seeds of Death and The War Games are all intact episodes I have seen and enjoyed

>>84029320

>Romans
>Not being bad guys to any non-romans

The Romans took as they please and dominated a lot of the world. In a way, they were a more civilized version of the Mongols. Even still, the Romans did some REAL fucked up shit, such as forcing captured women to have sex with animals in their colosseums.

Also Romans also had a couple of black people in their society. It's an inevitable thing since Roman expanded so much that of course it'd gain people from Africa. Hell, to be honest, during the final days of Rome, it's army wasn't even an actual army made up of native Romans. It was basically just a huge army of barbaric Goth mercenaries that revolted when they were getting insufficient payment.

>>84024167
I absolutely expected that.

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>>84029890
OPEN DOOR 40!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQTlT8-qYUk
>capaldi saying swears publicly in 2016 while still being the contracted main star of the hit BBC kids show

>>84029927
>my own clone. now neither of us will be virgins

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>>84029927
>Capaldi has been shit on by Moffat and his incompetent writers
>still turns in 10/10 performances every week because he's such a professional
>his last episodes are all about Gomez and Simm

Anyone else thought Doctor would actually enter the portal and later exit it and this is what all this time dilation stuff in the next episodes will be about?

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>>84029927
So do we all agree that the Simm clip from the next time trailer is almost definitely the cliffhanger and there will probably only be a few more seconds of him in it at most?

Still, I'm pretty hype. I would be out of my mind with hype if we hadn't already known so far in advance though.

>>84029927
Sorry, I slept almost a day. Where does the frame come from?

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>>84029977
He wants to die inside.

>>84030043
it's a leak, looks legit

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JUST
>>84030018
It can't be. The pic above is from next week.

>>84029927
Is this from WEAT or Doctor Falls?

>>84030018
Yes
I can't believe I watched this entire fucking series just for a tease pertaining to a single episode plus 4 words

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>>84030100
>according to unofficial overnight figures
>unofficial
???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIqrv7WtB34

>>84030100
>The pic above is from next week.
How do you know? Where'd you get that pic anyway

>>84030115
Why the fuck did they register as a non-profit?

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>>84030131
yep guess it's time to leave /who/ until the finale's aired

>Pearl Mackie has been hugely popular with fans as the Doctor's new sidekick on Doctor Who, but behind the scenes? Not so much.

>Perhaps she's too focused on delivering a good performance on screen, but Pearl just seems to forget her manners on set. Her behaviour was described by various members of the cast and crew as ranging from "grossly rude" to "eye-wateringly rude" – and she also spent a fair bit of time giving unrequested lectures on acting to the Doctor himself, Peter Capaldi.

>Of course, Capaldi won't have to deal with it any longer as he's not coming back next series. But if the rumours going around are correct, neither will she.

>>84018627
>ghoulishly horrible
>worse than the cremation one
>revelation level dark

GET HYPE
E
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H
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P
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>>84030115
EVERY FUCKING TIME

GO FUCK YOURSELF STEVE YOU BEARDY YANK PRICK

>>84030131
Big, if true

The special edition of Planet of Fire features a specially-shot prequel depicting the crash of the Trion ship... which is the most unnecessary waste of money I have ever had the misfortune to witness.

Why? Not only is the CGI quite poor and the whole thing unnecessary, but it ruins the twist! They could have spent that money on literally anything else

So what was that midnight announcement again? Was it that Day of the Master pic?

>>84030133
BBC America trailer.

>>84030159
World Enough and Time will be kino, all the first parts of Moffat's finales are. This makes the shitshow part twos even worse.

>>84030192
Yeah, they also announced the finale is sixty minutes

>>84030131
She is 100% dying. That fake Doctor is probably Simm.

>>84030131
>ywn dance with yourself

WHY FUCKING LIVE

I shaved a landing strip into my pubes and I really like the way it looks.

>>84029854

Eaters of Light felt a lot like Power of the Daleks with it's themes. Complete with a miserable 'Basically everyone is dead' ending.

>>84029906

It wouldn't be the first time. I mean, the doctor threw a vial of acid at a guy before to actively murder him. A guy who was very clearly sapient (And talking to them)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skp8Otp61hs

>>84030328
why are fan trailers always so shit

>>84029941

>The Romans took as they please and dominated a lot of the world. In a way, they were a more civilized version of the Mongols. Even still, the Romans did some REAL fucked up shit, such as forcing captured women to have sex with animals in their colosseums.

That and the English don't exactly have a rosy view of the Romans. Boadicea and all that. It's something I've noticed a bit, talking to British and American friends of mine. Americans tend to have much more positive views of the Romans, the Brits are more 'They did a lot of great things but were bastards'.

>>84024167
I have no idea why they didn't do that.

>>84030303
does that mean you shaved a line out of your pubes, or shaved the rest so the only pubes you have is the one line?

>>84028833
Yeah, which is why Sherlock can pull in 8 million overnight, and Broadchurch 7-8 million

>>84030387
Because that plot line was resolved 7 years ago and only the Simm Master heard it.

>>84030400
How have you not heard of a landing strip before? It's the latter.

>2.8 million overnight viewers
>2.8 million
>2.8 MILLION
>TWO POINT EIGHT MILLION

5am breakfast shows get more than this. Doctor Who is on its last legs.

Remember when one of Tennant's episodes got 14 million overnight

Reminder all Romans were bisexual and historians are homophobe if they think otherwise:

>>84030445
>>84030445
>>84030445

I quite liked the scene where Bill said she was gay. It came across to me as a funny juxtaposition. Bill's sort of nervous about saying it because she thinks the Romans might not be okay with same-gender sex, that they might not be as progressive as the world of 2017.
But the Romans were notorious for fucking each other, man or woman, orgies everywhere, they didn't care and never saw it as weird.
I think the point was that Bill was kinda nervous about the Romans's reactions, but then it backfired and they were all like "wow, you're weird, you ONLY sleep with women? You're like that dude over there who only sleeps with men". I thought it was funny.
They took the running joke of Bill saying she's gay and did something fun with it.

Like the time she met that blue-skinned guy in Oxygen and he calls her a racist. The writers are poking fun at the whole SJW thing, but it seems to all fly over the average /who/vians' head on here.

>>84030744
>/who/vians
I identify as a /who/re tyvm

>>84030723
>>84030744
I quite like the scene where you shut your butt

>>84030158
And nothing of value was lost

As a gay guy, bill having to make a dramatic ''BUT I'M GAY'' speech makes it seem like gays aren't normal and are a special case. It's treating her like shes not normal. Once was enough. We didn't see Rose say she was straight to three lesbians did we?

How did I just know Simm and Missy would dance. They should dance to snow Patrol in the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llUMU1jy_4g

>>84023661

Yep, HUGELY forgettable. Even while watching it I was getting a 'this still on?' feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9z9C8FOKvg

>Hello, i'm Doctor Who

>>84027335
>an interesting subversion of the expectation that Bill will always be the target of discrimination and prejudice

She will? From who? Why is this taken for granted? We haven't seen it, except for in Victorian London, where she certainly won't "always be".