Guess who's back? Back again? https://www.youtube.com/

Does ANYONE like this show? How did it get renewed?!

>>83986011
Clearly it was very fucking popular if it got renewed.

>>83985915
>that trailer
damn the alt-right got btfo
will they ever recover?

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How do we save media from critics?

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>bill nye theme hip hop remix

>>83986091
>8/6/2

Wow, what a representative sample. Looks like all the critics showed up to review that one.

>>83986180
This.

Deal with it, Trumptards. *puts on sunglasses*

>>83985915
The real question is DID Tom Cruise's need for control bury The Mummy?

>It's a Bill Nye beheads a Donald Trump effigy episode

why make this thread twice?

>>83986191
please dont let us stop you. we keep winning as long as xir influences the DNC platform.

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>>83986011
Netflix will renew everything as long as there's views.
It'll maybe get shitcanned after nobody watches season 2 like Sense8, or exist forever because its cheap enough to produce (which does look like the case from the little I've seen).

>>83986240
Feels good to watch the posts flow in.

>>83986258
>as long as xir influences the DNC platform.
You realize this is grammatically incorrect, retard?

>>83986266
>after nobody watches season 2

Oh, don't you wish this will happen.

>>83986318
doesn't matter

Nobody liked this shit, why are they giving shit like this yet won't renew good shows like galavant
I'm so mad

They have to realize that the show is being criticized because it wasn't real science but a really biased shit show.

>>83985915
>get Tyler the Creator to do your theme song
>he just says the show's name over some basic-ass beats and phones it in

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>>83985915
The people who think the world is 6000 years old are far better role models for your children. They teach young people to avoid drugs and pornography, to work hard and raise strong and healthy families. They want to raise of generation of people who follow the protestant work ethic and reject cultural degeneracy, people who could build a far better and stronger civilization that has ability end our reliance on fossil fuels and bring humanity to the stars. Their one and only problem is that they think that Adam and Eve lived with Dinosaurs in the garden of Eden, a small price to pay for a brighter future.

The culture that Bill Nye represents is one of decadence and decay. He wants your children to grow up to simply be too hedonistic and lazy to develop alternative energy sources or to colonize other worlds. Humanity will go quietly into the night, with full awareness of the incomprehensible miracles of nature that led us to where we are today and our solemn duty to act as stewards of the Earth.

>>83986011
He probably had a preexisting deal in place. Maybe a different show, but they figured they go with this.

>>83986500
But you got that mixed up. It's the boomers who are the hedonistic, lazy polluters.

>>83986258
Kek, you do know everyone one of you guys will be put into camps for treason after he gets impeached for being a russin plant

>>83986446
If Galavant was so good, maybe it would be getting a season 2.

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>>83986500
>rejecting the pursuit of truth and embracing a Luddite lifestyle because "muh supposed values"

You know who also raped their children? Luddites. Thanks for the advice, you backwards fuck, but I'll choose somewhere between "old-fashioned" and "hedonistic", Mr. Thank You Very Fucking Much.

>>83986483
Is Tyler the Creator the guy who said the legendary thing about cyberbullying or was that someone else?

>>83985915
S E X J U N K

>>83986559
No Russians are going to round y'all up and gas you in homosexual concentration camps

>Bill Nye emerges from a smokescreen pretending to strum chords with a plastic electric guitar as speakers play Bohemian Rhapsody
>Floor becomes moist with the drool of the audience, mouths agape from sheer epicness
>*record scratch* as the camera zooms in on Nye's face
>"Now let's get serious."
>Audience quiets, preparing for major wisdom bomb
>"Folks, did you know that we can see the scientific method at work in the world of Harry Potter?"
>Audience begins clapping, gets cut off by short clip of CGI monster from Fantastic Beasts
>"It's True!" Bill proclaims, pointing to corner of screen with cutout of the exact same monster roar superimposed
>And to illustrate this point, we've got one of the best, most intellectual scientific minds the world has ever seen...
>Audience begins to gasp, unsure of which incredible feat comes next
>"Ladies, gentlemen, and everyone inbetween, please join me in welcoming Harry Potter!"
>Harry Potter's actor appears wearing a labcoat adorned with Gryffindor logo
>Half of the audience is now seizing
>Potter holds a metallic wand as a photoshopped picture of Donald Trump with squished Voldemort nose descends from ceiling
>"SAVO CLIMATO!"
>CG effects freeze the photograph
>All men in audience become filled with sexual violence, rip off their penises and use them as wands to shoot cum at the picture as well
>"I'm Bill Nye, and that's all the time we have today! See you next episode! Stay logical!"

Is nobody else worried about how Bill Nye literally has the world in his hands? He could crush it and kill us all.

>>83986696
This is ruined by the fact that Daniel Radcliffe did a movie where he fucked a horse so he's very obviously a Trump supporter.

>>83986500
>muh tradition

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This thread is pure cancer

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fuck bill nye, big ole' faggot

>>83986709
but where is Bill Nye?

>>83986191
*nods respectfully towards you*

>>83986742
He also got aids in The Brothers Grimsby.

>>83986240
Same could be said for the show.

>>83986902
/u/Count_Sexulus

Check it out if you want to feel sick.

>>83985915
cosby?

tom cruise?

>>83986536
>>83986574
>>83986776
>couldn't prove him wrong.
Nice arguments.

>>83986011
soros

>>83987509
What a sad, strange little man.

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>>83986908

On earth.

>The studio is pitch black
>slowly, a light shines on a face somewhere amidst the blackness
>it is the face of Bill Nye
>"Ladies and gentlemen, behold: The Deniers!"
>The entire studio is bathed in light, several bloody, naked, barely-alive people are on the stage
>"Let the trials commence"
>Bill approaches one of "The Deniers"
>"Tell me, how do you continue to spout your lies, saying that global warming isn't real, despite 98% of scientists saying it is"
>the man takes a gasp of coppery air and begins his defense
>"I do believe it is real, sir, but I believe that humanity plays a small role, and global warming is a natural occurrence"
>The crushing weight of Bill's cold, judgmental glare shrivels the man
>Bill shakes his head
>"I'm sorry, but you are beyond saving"
>A burly transgender, wearing a contraption similar to a flamethrower in design, bathes the man in liquid Nitrogen
>"You see, ladies, gentlemen, and the in-betweens, anybody can contribute to science. This man will now do his part in preventing global warming."

>>83986034
>wow we sure did draw in a lot of rubber-neckers by wrecking our car let's crash it again!

>>83986011
that cringefest sex junk video that 4chan unironically shitposted to high heaven probably got it renewed

>>83987589
Samefag

>>83988587
Yeah, good job watching the heck out of it, idiots. You sure showed him.

>>83987976
I never understood why anyone liked this webcomic.

>>83986266
Wasn't Sense 8 doing well? did they can it for Bill Nye the SJW season 2?

>>83986572
it did get a season 2, then it got cancelled cause abc is the worst network ever and netflix wouldnt pick it up

>>83989106
Pretty much, the Wachowskis are /ourgirls/ because they're transgender but the left hates them for some reason. Perhaps because they actually make good films.

>>83985915
It would be endlessly more tolerable without the studio audience.

>>83989443
The same could be said of all shows with a studio audience.

I don't see why anyone thinks that format is a good idea. I don't need some asshole telling me what's funny. This is why I stick to films.

>>83987326
Top kek

more libcuck memes, I'm sure they'll post alt right macro images from reddit about this.

>>83986459
i imagine there's another timeline where bill nye got a reboot show that actually talks about scientific stuff

I hope the memes don't suck. I know they will.

>>83986266
I doubt this costs $9 million an episode like Sense8 which is the real reason it was cancelled.

>>83987589
>appeal to tradition necessitates a counter-argument
no

>>83986011
Soros owns huge shares in netflix now. Theres the only answer you need.

>>83989847
Got any proof of that or did you just pull that out of your ass?

>>83989743
How much did Marco Polo cost per episode?

>>83989875
https://www.thestreet.com/story/13377046/1/is-george-soros-right-to-bet-so-heavily-on-netflix.html

Here you go, ignorant commie.

>muh soros
More /pol/tardedness, I see.

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Stop having white children.

In all serious, I think it is absolutely retarded that these alt-right retards think chugging milk will make them stronger. Makes you look like an idiot and since milk is white it looks like you're drinking semen so good job looking gay.

>>83991208
>I think it is absolutely retarded that these alt-right retards think chugging milk will make them stronger
I've never heard any of them say that, I've only heard accusations of milk as a symbol of white supremacy from the left.

>>83988558
Bill Nye is the destruction derby of science?

>>83991288
Those guys on the HWNDU thing kept bringing big jugs of milk and drinking it on camera. It looked incredibly stupid.

>>83991362
>Those guys on the HWNDU thing kept bringing big jugs of milk and drinking it on camera
And you attributed it as some ritual to grant them strength?

>>83986011
It's dirt cheap to make shows like this

>>83989106
Sense8 got canned because it was WAY too expensive. Imagine what the budget must be to shoot something like that in 8-12 major cities all over the world.

>>83991410
Why couldn't they just use one city that had plenty of different areas to shoot in? Or use sets?

>>83989743
9 mil! wtf this isnt GoT

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>>83985915
>hey lil kiddies! Did you know there is no such thing as gender or sex? Your CIS parents have indoctrinated you to "ideentify" as socially constructed categories like "male" or "female". But SCIENCE has determined that these are lame capitalistic patriarchal oppressive forms of violence. You... You don;t support anti-scientific violence, do you kids?
n...no?
<gooood good. So repeat after me, I am a progressive, I am an ally. and Trump is the devil. Science Says!!!

>>83991378
No, I listened as the neckbeard on camera awkwardly grunted out some rambling nonsense about "Drink milk and don't masturbate" between swigs of the fluid.

>>83985915
>trailer mentioning twitter as if that piece of shit media service means anything
fuck our society is dying, I refuse to believe this level of retardation was ever found in history ever without it being caused by lead pipes carrying drinking water

>>83991661
>No
Then what was the point of saying this?
>>83991208
>these alt-right retards think chugging milk will make them stronger

>>83991680
The president uses Twitter to make official statements, so annoyingly it is considered to "mean something."

>>83991697
Because he literally made the claim that it made him stronger and that's why he was drinking it. How are you not following this?

>>83985915
>Guess who's back? Back again?
Neither of those is a question. Bill tweeted this himself. Shouldn't a "scientist" know how to use proper grammar?

>>83991744
>How are you not following this?
In the numerous replies I made asking you why you thought that it gave them strength, you never once said anything about them actually saying it short of implying once that they did. How is telling people to drink milk relevant to gaining strength? You're talking absolute nonsense.

>>83991794
I shouldn't have to spell out every little thing for you. This isn't preschool.

>>83991831
So you didn't infer anything about drinking milk granting strength, even though he didn't say it, but you're still saying they think it.

>>83991717
>implying he isn't simply shitposting
Trump is like an aussie, if you take anything he posts seriously, you have already lost the game. Just let him shitpost, for fucks sake, its not like 140 characters are going to cause ww3

>>83991859
He did say it. Which I already implied. I have to assume you're being obtuse just so you can keep this thread bumped.

>>83991904
>He did say it.
When?

>>83991912
When he was giving his speech about milk and masturbation.

>>83991974
So you quoted him but chose not to add in the part where he said what you say he was getting strength from it, even though I had already asked you what the fuck you were talking about several times. Is this your first time speaking English, or are you just covering up for the stupid thing you thought after being called out on it?

The milk thing is a fit meme dyel

>>83992003
Again, you are just being incredibly obtuse here.

>>83992220
I'm holding you accountable for your own opinions. If you didn't say things that didn't happen, I wouldn't be obtuse about it. It's simple.

He'll do at least one episode where he address the haters.

>>83992303
The commercial has already done that, it's reasonable to think that the whole season will be addressing the haters.

>>83986341
The first season wasn't very popular. People really only watched it to laugh at MY SEX JUNK, and really, outside that clip and the one with the ice creams, it's a pretty boring ass show.

>>83992324
Hadn't seen the commercial. Yeah, it's possible the whole thing will just be him strawmanning the people who made fun of him.

>>83992415
I got you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcfoYUCoOJE

>>83992231
Everything I said happened and I can provide proof.

>>83992774
You've had plenty of time to do it.

>>83992430
Dang, why didn't OP put this in their post?

>>83992785
Just because I can doesn't mean I will.

>>83992872
Better luck next time.

>>83992430
>"see i'm a scientist i'm in a labcoat and i've got test tubes and shit and i'm stirring this is science"

Also, I like that they added a tweet by Trump that had nothing to do with Bill Nye and they blurred his name and image like you can't tell it's the fucking president.

>>83992884
Same to you.

>>83992374
>The first season wasn't very popular.
Sure, and that's why it's getting a second season. *rolls eyes*

>>83986500
yeah, no
i don't want all the life sciences to suffer, because you thought creationism was a small price to pay. I don't want Evolution theory not being tought anymore. And i don't believe in your proposal that people, that are so trained in their unscientific way of thinking could do anything to further science and technology. There's no reason to believe that those guys take us to the stars or whatever you dream up at night.
Also: from personal experience i know that alot of the people raised the way you just described end up being the worst degenerates of all (or psychos)

>>83993018
Can you prove it was popular? Because "it's getting a second season" doesn't prove that.

>>83993185
How, exactly, does it not prove that?

>>83993481
Shows that weren't popular get renewed and shows that are popular don't get renewed all the time.

So, again, prove what you're saying is true.

>>83989743
So you got different shooting location and what else?
That can't be all that made it GoT-tier budget per epside

>>83987326
Underrated

>>83993018
>*rolls eyes*
Hahhahah Jesus Christ, how much more of a fatass redditor can you be?

>>83993573
>Shows that weren't popular get renewed and shows that are popular don't get renewed all the time.
Name examples of both.

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>This week on Bill Nye's objective facts of Science: Headmates: Real enough for me, FACT

>>83993573
While it got favorable reviews among critics, it currently has a 27% audience score on RT and a 1.7 user score on Metacritic, and the Sex Junk video on Youtube is one of the most disliked videos in the history of Youtube (if not the most disliked video period). It seems like this thing wasn't very popular and was actively disliked by viewers.

It's possible it got renewed because it found a niche audience, but I think the reality is that the people in charge renewed it because they agree with the political ideas it espouses.

>>83986500
>our solemn duty to act as stewards of the Earth.
human race is a cancer, the sooner we go we the better

>>83993774
Idk, you could be you.

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>>83985915
>tfw the pure /pol/ butt devastation this show brings

>>83993780
American Crime got renewed twice despite poor ratings. Last Man Standing had high ratings but was cancelled.

You still haven't proven a single word of what you said true.

>>83993878
>people laugh at thing
>"u mad bro"

>>83993878
>pretend to be retarded
>haha u mad pol??

>>83993890
>Last Man Standing had high ratings but was cancelled.
Not particularly high for how much it cost them, no.

>>83985915
You know how Netflix separates a successful show from a bad one? Views.

It doesn't matter if people are viewing it to see what a train wreck it is, if it has huge numbers of viewers, they consider that a win.

>>83993975
>You still haven't proven a single word of what you said true.
You're avoiding this, anon.

>>83994002
Well, that's true of films too.

If a lot of people go to see a movie, it's considered a success, regardless of how thoroughly the critics eviscerate it.

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>>83986500
>protestant
>work ethic

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Photograph of young Bill researching gender spectrum.

SHADY'S BACK

TELL A FRIEND

>>83986011
Not everyone is from /pol/

>>83991208
Milk gives you strong bones so technically it does make you stronger than if you didnt drink it.

>>83994160
Except, you know... Reddit and normalfags hate it too.

>>83994164
That is completely incorrect, there is lots of research out there that indicates that milk weakens your bones and the ADA dances around the subject when they are confronted on it.

>>83994160
Audiences didn't like it. See >>83993804

>>83994181
>Reddit and normalfags hate it
And how could you possibly know this? Checkmate.

>>83994182
Huh well there you fucking go.

>>83994164
eh, only when you're still growing. When you're an adult the efffect is negligible.
Vitamin D and K is more important
Go outside and tank some sunlight. Eat fish and eggs and train your body. Your bones will strengthen.

carl sagan is spinning in his grave

>>83994205
I used wget and downloaded the relevant textual information from Reddit without going to the site physically thus saving my 4chan cred from total annihilation.

>>83994205

>>83993804
>While it got favorable reviews among critics, it currently has a 27% audience score on RT and a 1.7 user score on Metacritic, and the Sex Junk video on Youtube is one of the most disliked videos in the history of Youtube (if not the most disliked video period). It seems like this thing wasn't very popular and was actively disliked by viewers.

>>83994185
So RT is a good source for reviews now?
>Show that attracted a significant amount of internet ire for challenging /pol/'s views on sexuality
>Must all be 100% honest reviews that watched the whole season
Okay
Shitty score or not it's getting a second season

>>83994295
This, has anyone actually looked at the RT audience reviews? It's almost as bad as Metacritic.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/bill_nye_saves_the_world/s01/reviews/?type=user

Hell, at least on Metacritic you're forced to write a review so you can see people creating new accounts just to bomb the score.

>>83994205
i saw it on reddit front page

>>83986574
Read ISAIF by Ted Kaczynski, if you're not a luddite already it will change your mind.

>>83994295
>numbers show that people disliked the show
>"no it was popular everybody but /pol/ loved it but I have zero proof that what I'm saying is true"
Okay. Well, there you have it then. On one side, you have "people didn't like it" and you have viewers scores and Youtube dislikes reflecting this argument. On the other side, you have "people liked it" but nothing substantial to support that statement.

>>83993804
it got favorable reviews from critics? shit I didn't know things were that bad

>>83989781
Well it maybe it's a muh fallacy, but tradition in human society evolved so it best fit what is 'healthy' and conducive to human success. So it makes sense following it even today. Think about it, your body is still the same as your primitive forefathers. Ditching tradition in favour of 'my sex junk' style bullshit is a stupid move.

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>>83985915
this isn't even entertainment anymore, just literal propaganda

>>83994438
Reviews from critics don't necessarily reflect how the audience feels about a show or movie. The audience scores are a more accurate representation of that, as is the fact that the Sex Junk video is the one of the most disliked thing on Youtube.

It's a comparable situation to Ghostbusters 2016: the trailer was one of the most disliked things on Youtube, and despite getting great reviews, it had horrible audience scores because people did not like it. Ghostbusters 2016 also did poorly at the box office.

>>83994393
Did you look at the link I provided? There are quite a few reviews indicating that these are not people who watched the show.

>>83994536
I did and do not see what you are claiming. I just see people giving it bad scores, which further proves my point: people didn't like it.

>>83994568
MY point is that the people who actually give it a fair shake (i.e. the critics) end up liking it.

>>83994858
Audiences didn't like it. You can try to dismiss them not liking it as being "unfair" (which, to be honest, is an incredibly childish excuse to make), but at the end of the day, audiences didn't like it and thus it wasn't popular.

>>83986592
Ye thats tyler

>>83994929
Hence why it's getting a second season. *rolls eyes*

>>83994965
It's getting renewed despite not being popular with general audiences.

>>83994998
It was popular enough to get renewed.

>>83988980
>Yeah, good job watching the heck out of it, idiots. You sure showed him
You think /pol/ of all people doesn't love that this show exists and wants it on full blast? Shit like this will get them the second term of trump.

>>83995046
>it was contrarian enough to get renewed
fixed

I wonder how many people in this thread have seen the show.

BILL NYE THE /POL/TRIGGER GUY

>>83995046
Can you give numbers on its popularity to support this claim? Because the low audience scores tell a different story then the one you've made up.

>>83995068
>contrarian
Maybe to the bible belt

>>83992430
Is this like the time he made a video after being interviewed by Tucker? It was like a 10 minute "shit, I wish I had said this to him" in video form.

>>83995109
>literally everyone hates the show
>producers think this is a good sign (because bad publicity is good publicity) and renew the show

There. That's how it is.

>>83995103
>I don't like this story so it's made up.
You sound like Trump.

>>83995122
That shit was fucking sad.

>>83986500
Yeah anon, great arguing
>its either religious fundamentalism or this!

How about neither cockbag

>>83993018
Well they tried to claim that "muh vagina" stand up was only rated lowly because of " alt right trolls" and not because it was horrendous trash. So how can we know for sure if they are telling us the truth?

>>83985915
Reddit's back. Tell xer friends.

>>83995140
Keep telling yourself that, Anon.

>>83995154
Extremism is the only hope fundies have. There is a reason they are basically advertising the most insane SJW shit. They want it as the only alternative. And people like Nye are helping them.

>>83995145
Your story not only has no factual basis, but the facts actually point to the contrary being true.

>>83995162
It was trash but trash on the internet still doesn't always get hounded as a shitty meme
And to act like it wasn't memed into oblivion is purposefully dishonest

>>83995191
Or people can just say no to each? And since when was any episodes on Bill Nye evolution centred?

>>83995186
You know I'm right and you know you are wrong.
You can suck Nye's cock freely on another website, maybe reddit or tumblr.

>>83995244
You're an idiot.
We're done.

>>83995244
>reddit
Nah, not even Reddit likes Bill Nye.

>>83986318
>When you can't defeat the content, nitpick the structure and grammar.

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>>83993810
>human race is a cancer

>>83995276
If the grammar is that bad the content is guaranteed to be worthless.

>>83995260
>stop insulting my favorite "scientist"!
>stop it!

>>83995206
Now you sound like Kellyanne Conway.

>>83995208
I'm convinced only a small number of people down boated it for the sake of it. More people would have been actually curious to see how bad it was and rated it accordingly.
>Wow loads of people watched this! It must be a success!
>But the ratings are awful
>That doesn't add up, it must be the Trumpenreich!

Same probably happened with Bill Nye's Grapes save the world. I watched the sex junk episode out of curiosity and was fucking horrified anybody could say it was a science show.

>>83995288
>not an argument

>>83995217
>Or people can just say no to each?
Is that what is happening or is everyone being pushed more and more to either extreme? On basically any issue.

>>83995297
Damn, you got that mad at rightfully being called an idiot?

>>83986011
he has connections and pushes the (((right message))) plus it´s cheap to make

>>83995306
>(You)

>>83995325
>projecting how mad you are to me
Watch some Bill Nye and relax. When you are calm, reply to me again.

>>83995316
You don't know what to do when you're faced with the truth.

>>83995316
>>83995359
>>83995380
What do you think you're accomplishing by samefagging this hard, retard?

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>>83985915

>tfw they probably cancelled Bloodline to pay for this shit

>>83986011
Netflix always gives their shows at least another season. If it follows the same format as the previous season it won't get a third.

>>83995427
>Netflix always gives their shows at least another season
The Get Down isn't getting a second season.

>>83995410
Shouting "samefag" to people you think are the same won't help your case, guy.

>>83995437
>doesn't deny it
Samefag detected.

>>83992003

AUTISM

>>83995554
>doesn't deny it
>Shouting "samefag" to people YOU THINK are the same

Do you pretend to be a retarded subhuman?

>>83995410

>Says the autistic faggot who believes this show is popular with audiences despite literally all evidence pointing to the contrary

>>83995652
>still not denying it

>>83995710
>still wanting to win your internet argument when you clearly lost

>>83995731
Why are you talking about yourself?

Prove the show isn't popular cuckservatives

>>83995829
>I know you are but what am I?
Genius. No wonder you like Bill Nye.

>>83988037
>this man will now do his part in preventing global warming
>set alight by a flamethrower

That's exactly how I expected.

>>83995875
You just used this exact argument yourself and you have the audacity. Wow.

>>83996068
Trying too hard, anon.
You can stop replying any time now. Don't make things worse.

>>83996176
Why don't you stop since you've clearly lost? You just look pathetic.

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>>83995410
don't cry anon

>>83996283
It took you a full hour to edit that. Wow. Are you retarded?

>>83996228
>...he said, as tears fell down on his keyboard. How could they hate Bill? He was the perfect blend of liberal intellectualism and political correctness...

>>83996296
my life doesn't revolve around some faggot posting on 4chan

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Why do leftists deny the fact that the mental concept of "gender" comes from our biological instincts? It's NOT a social construct whatsoever.

Why do they deny science so much?

>>83987589
>Arguing with retards over the Internet.

No thanks anon, I'm good.

>>83995095
>BAWWWWW WATCH MY SJW SHOW

>>83996588
Because they have already made their minds up about gender. If science doesn't support their opinions, they throw a tantrum about how science needs to be more tolerant or inclusive or something.

It's exactly the same with creationists and flat-earthers (groups which, ironically, leftists love to ridicule for being unscientific)

>>83996324
Which is why you spent an hour editing it. Sure.

>>83996588
a large portion of gender roles are socially constructed. the extent of any "biological instincts" people possess is still very much an open question.

>>83996321
Damn, you got that mad at rightfully being called pathetic?

>>83996762
>crying so much about Billy you replied 20 minutes later

>>83990485

Stop having heterosexual intercourse with a single partner of the same race.

>>83996752
>a large portion of gender roles are socially constructed
lmao

are you actually this retarded? a small amount is socially constructed, the vast majority is biological

countless civilizations that never even met each other had similar gender roles and gender personalities

Do you honestly believe estrogen and testosterone have no effect on personality traits?

>still very much an open question.
only to leftists and science denialists

Why do you still believe in the blank slate theory? You people deserve a bullet.

didnt a bunch of real scientists called him out on twitter a few weeks ago, why didnt he included their tweets

>>83996845
> make a stupid claim
>anon tells you you're wrong
>proceed to prove him "wrong" with bullshit statements and anecdotes
It's rare that one of your faggots just rees all over the place.

>>83996706
Poor baby, I'll have your mommy go tuck you into bed and sing 'My Sex Junk' for a lullaby just as soon as I'm done with her.

>>83996845
>countless civilizations that never even met each other
[citation needed]
the obvious counterpoint here, for the slow, is that world civilizations presumably arise from a common ancestry. even animals pass on behavior socially, we have no sure idea how long we have been doing it and to what extent.
note also for the slow, I did not say ALL gender roles are socially constructed. that is clearly false. In fact, we have some compelling evidence that the greater portion of sexual orientation is innate. It is also true e.g. that men (although perhaps only a certain subset of men with a particular social class) are innately stronger and perhaps predisposed to some roles. which is not to say this predisposition could not be overridden by social factors. In a word, it's complicated (and you're not)

>>83996971
>> make a stupid claim
I made a statement of fact.
You made a stupid claim.

Do you people not believe in evolution or human instincts?
Why do you deny what the vast majority of scientists and the vast majority of the general population believe.

The burden of proof is in your hands.

Kill yourself you delusional creationist.

>>83997003
>[citation needed]
Take any civilization on earth
mayans, japanese, german, roman, even african

same fucking shit

>In fact, we have some compelling evidence that the greater portion of sexual orientation is innate
The vast majority of sexual orientation and gender is instinctual.

Men are on average better at technical things than women and have larger brains than woman.
This is a fact.

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End your penis.

>>83997178
>german
They don't count as a civilization but okay.

>>83997138
>I made a statement of fact
And apparently you decided no sources to back these "facts" just made your argument all the stronger.

>>83997252
>And apparently you decided no sources
I already told you the burden of proof is in your hands.

I explained something that is so incredibly true and obvious like(the sky is blue, snow is white).

>>83985915
>Guess who's back? Back again?
Slim shady?

>>83997252
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080303120346.htm

>>83996775
Who the fuck is Billy? Are you high?

>>83997432
>Who the fuck is Billy?
Seriously, end yourself.

>>83997463
Sorry I don't know about your long list of gay lovers.

>>83985915
MY SEX JUNK OOOH OOHHH OH OH

haha kill me

>>83997470
>ur gay
The pinnacle of insults. I guess watching Bill Nye didn't make you any smart.

>>83997504
>any smart
And considering your retarded English, not watching Bill Nye made you a dumb faggot.

gender is a biological construct

it comes from human instincts

why do leftists deny humans have instincts

if gender wasn't instinctual, transgendered people wouldn't want to be the opposite sex, they would be something totally different and crazy

but for some strange reason(instincts, you fucking idiot) they want to be the opposite sex.

>>83997002
Yikes. You have some growing up to do.

>>83997528
Now now, would Bill Nye like that? Calling me a faggot?

>>83985915
What a shock that Netflix's leftist engineer who masquerades as a scientist mouthpiece would be rehired

>>83997589
Your mistake is thinking I'm on Bill Nye's side, you dumb faggot.

>>83997533
>DOCTORS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS AND PEOPLE WITH ACTUAL QUALIFIED KNOWLEDGE ON THIS SUBJECT ARE BAD AND WRONG!!!! YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO ANGRY PEEPL LIEK ME ON TEH INTERNET INSTEAD!!!

>>83997744
>I'm not on Bill's side!
>Everyone watches Bill's show! You are just contrarian trolls that are anti-science!

>claim show is unscientific
>literally never refute anything from the show

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>>83997789
>>DOCTORS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS AND PEOPLE WITH ACTUAL QUALIFIED KNOWLEDGE ON THIS SUBJECT
You mean the people that understand human instincts, evolutionary psychology and neuroscience?

The same actual SCIENTISTS that you raging leftists seem to hate so much?

Just close the tab before you embarrass yourself further. I can't believe you people exist.

>>83997866
>>literally never refute anything from the show
Every single thread there are countless people that refute leftist "muh gender is a social construct" pseudoscience.

Stop being mad that your little gender fairytales aren't true or scientific at all.

>>83997877
>The same actual SCIENTISTS that you raging leftists seem to hate so much?
>calls them sneaky kikes with an agenda on another thread

>>83997877
i'm sorry that your so far up your edgelord hivemind's ass that you actually believe liberals are "anti-science" but out in here in reality, that's not what's going on

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>>83997789
>being this retarded

>>83997533
It comes partially from instinct and partially from culture, not sure how you can possibly be too retarded to understand this. You're just as deluded as any SJW if you think every difference between male and female behavior is biological.

>>83997897
>>calls them sneaky kikes with an agenda on another thread

>BAWWWWWW EVERYONE THAT AGREES WITH MY INSANE PSEUDOSCIENCE IS AN EBUL NAZI

Christ kid, get a grip.

>>83997854
You've been whining about Bill Nye in this thread for literally hours, aren't you tired? I'm going to bed, enjoy your temper tantrum. This is the last response you will receive.

>>83997891
every thread people whine and cry about science that they don't like, because they were mistakenly under the impression that science stopped the year they were born and we weren't allowed to add anything to it as we kept finding things out*
>>83997902
ugh i know right? like there are some totally le redpilled youtubes about this subject that i haven't even watched!

>>83997898
None of this post is an argument.

>le reality has a liberal bias
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You people don't believe believe in instincts or neuroscience.
I can't even fucking believe you exist. You're no better than christian fundies.

>>83997909
>It comes partially from instinct and partially from culture
The vast majority comes from instincts, the core of it comes from instincts.
Society has a role to play true, but it's actually quite small.

>>83997929
>None of this post is an argument.
... was yours? you were really just crying about some things that you feel

>>83997927
>every thread people whine and cry about science that they don't like
yes because leftists can't take actual science and scientific studies

Actual brain scans/studies from male/female brains show they are quite different.

The evidence is so fucking overwhelming that only a leftist teenager would deny it.

>>83997975
sorry, which episode claimed that male and female brains were exactly the same?

>>83997968
>... was yours?
Yes.
My point is that that actual scientists understand human instincts, evolutionary psychology and neuroscience while leftists do not.

Just go away you pseudoscience believing lefttard.

>>83998000
alright then, let me counter with all the effort and reasoning you're putting into yours, here goes: you're wrong and dumb and your side is wrong and dumb and my side is right and good

checkmate faggot

>>83997989
the one where they were claiming gender is a social construct

unless you are now claiming that the environment is the solely responsible for shaping the human brain

you're probably not that retarded, but you are a leftists so you never know.

>>83997911
>triggered as fuck
Got you good, huh? Go be a retard somewhere else.

>>83997951
Something like females wearing a dress, carrying a handbag, shaving their legs, wearing makeup, etc. is a social construct. That isn't the important part of female behavior, but it is the part that conservatives complain about when men do it. Yeah it looks weird and off-putting but they're also completely right when they say it's a social construct. It's really dumb to think you can force people to adhere to gender roles that were fabricated to begin with, or that society is dying because a few men want to wear a dress.

>>83998020
nope, that was never claimed in that episode. gonna keep making shit up?

>>83997919
There is no shame in admitting defeat, anon. Maybe in a future thread you'll fare better.

>>83998012
hehe I bet you don't even know what I terms I mentioned even MEAN

my point was that leftists don't believe in/support these things, your rebuttal was NOTHING

lol

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>>83998033
>BAWWW I HAET EBUL NAZIS
>LOL U MADE XD ;.;

man my post really hit close to home huh

>>83998056
>my point was that leftists don't believe in/support these things
so it was also nothing, is what you're saying

>>83998056
>my point was that leftists don't believe in/support these things
You got anything to back this claim besides autistic delusion?

>>83998051
>nope, that was never claimed in that episode
Yes it was.

Why are you outright lying.
This is what the entire uproar on the internet about this shitty show is about.

If you think that episode wasn't about that, then what do you think it was about?
Go on, I'm waiting.

>>83998078
>anime avatarfagging
I wasn't expecting this smugness feeling this early in the morning.

Goes to show how muh gender roles faggots go against their own fucking arguments to ERP as little girls.

>>83998102
they outlined the whole difference between biological sex and gender expression, just because you were too stupid to follow it through doesn't make it EBIL BAD LIBRUL SUDOSCIENZ

>>83998136
>avatar

retard

>>83998037
>Something like females wearing a dress, carrying a handbag, shaving their legs, wearing makeup, etc. is a social construct.
No it's not.
They have an instinctual desire to do this because it's "submissive" and "feminine" and they see other females doing it making them want to be submissive and feminine too.

>Yeah it looks weird and off-putting but they're also completely right when they say it's a social construct.
lmao what a load of bullshit
these things are only partially socially constructed

if it was a total social construct they wouldn't do things

if there was a female with a 100% male brain(and they didn't know about this from their birth), they would want to male things.
Studies were done on this.

>>83998158
>They have an instinctual desire to do this because it's "submissive" and "feminine" and they see other females doing it making them want to be submissive and feminine too.
lol these are the people calling this show unscientific

>>83998136
>Goes to show how muh gender roles faggots go against their own fucking arguments

lmao this faggot thinks just because I'm male and have a male brain that I don't have a feminine side

People have complex degrees of femininity/masculinity and it has very little to do with social constructs. It has to do with the complex structure of the brain and hormone/estrogen/test levels.

I mean, normal people figured this shit out ages ago, I don't know why it's so difficult for you retards.

>>83998083
>so it was also nothing
no, it was that leftists don't believe in the basic scientific terms that I mentioned

Care you actually respond now or are you going to keep crying as we go back and forth?
Can you even refute what I said?

>>83998090
>You got anything to back this claim
The fact that leftists don't believe in human instincts?
They literally say gender is 100% a social construct. They believe stupid people are stupid because poverty and society made them that way.
That right there proves my point.

>>83998149
>they outlined the whole difference between biological sex and gender expression
Meaning they completely separated the two and shat on actual scientific research in the area.

>gender expression
that RIGHT THERE shows they believe and propagate the idea that gender is a social construct

what the fuck are you even arguing anymore?

>EBIL BAD LIBRUL SUDOSCIENZ
But leftists don't even believe in science.
They believe in pseudoscience.
They HATE science.

>>83998191
>lol these are the people calling this show unscientific
wait
lol are you actually denying what I just said?
holy fuck are you people serious

Explain why you don't believe in sexual instincts?
LOL

Are you honestly saying the submissive nature of woman is socially constructed?
HAHAHAHAHHA

>>83998203
>feminine side
Women don't do what you're doing, faggot. That's your own perception of femininity, a social construct if you will?

Are you tired of proving me right yet?

>>83998136
>Goes to show how muh gender roles faggots
Why do you believe in SJW bullshit but at the same time use the word faggot?

hypocritical much?

>>83998246
>Can you even refute what I said?
i feel no need to because it's blatantly wrong and even you can't back it up with anything but more of your own rambling
>>83998279
>Meaning they completely separated the two and shat on actual scientific research in the area
they have different meanings though lol and what "actual scientific research"a re you specifically referring to?
>what the fuck are you even arguing anymore?
things that hurt your feefees too hard for you to actually process them apparently
>NONE OF THE RESEARCH ON SEX AND GENDER COUNTS AFTER THE YEARS THAT I SAY IT STOPS COUNTING!!!!!
>>83998294
i'm saying that you talk in an unscientific way and are too fucking stupid to realize the irony

>>83998294
You were raised to believe dresses = feminine, there's nothing natural about that at all. You were raised to believe shaving legs = feminine, there's nothing natural about that at all. Many of the outward expressions of gender aren't natural, that's just an objective fact.

>>83998324
>Women don't do what you're doing, faggot.
Women don't do what? Do womanly things like watch anime?
Girls in Japan do it all the time. What are you talking about?

>That's your own perception of femininity
You mean the perception built into my brain from billions of years of evolution?

>Are you tired of proving me right yet?
I've proven you wrong on every single point.
Notice how it's me moving the debate along ruining your arguments along the way.

lol you people actually deny neuroscience and you claim to support science, it's fucking hilarious

kys

>>83998377
>i feel no need to
because you completely lost the argument and got exposed as and idiot not accepting actual science

>it's blatantly wrong
Really?
The idea
Countless leftists including (you) ITT have repeatedly told me that gender is a social construct.
You just proved my point.

>they have different meanings though
Only in the mind of delusional leftists LOL
Not for actual scientists.
>gender is le social expression of sex
The man that came up with this theory had his own experiment fail miserably on him.
Also, this so called expression is itself based on instincts. The show denied the fact they were based on instincts and instead said it was completely socially constructed.

>things that hurt your feefees
man lmao you people get so fucking mad at people calling you snowflakes that you now project hard and try to use it on other people and it always fails so hard it's hilarious
get gassed

>>NONE OF THE RESEARCH ON SEX AND GENDER COUNTS AFTER THE YEARS THAT I SAY IT STOPS COUNTING!!!!!
Wait what?
Almost all of the research proves my side right.

>i'm saying that you talk in an unscientific way
the irony
You don't even accept human instincts.

>>83998391
But dresses and shaving your legs are feminine things because dresses and shaved legs are better on women than men.

>>83998391
>You were raised to believe dresses = feminine
even if you believe this, why do I think femininity exists in the first place if not for my instincts

Why does it even exist as a concept?
Are you saying it's socially constructed? kek

>You were raised to believe shaving legs = feminine
No, it's a submissive thing, it's easy to see why woman do it.

Are you honestly saying the submissive nature of woman is socially constructed?

>there's nothing natural about that at all.
Yes there is and I explained why.
Everything humans do is "natural".

>>83998504
>instinctual gender expression
lol and we're hitting once again on that "too stupid to realize the irony of spouting unscientific bullshit" thing from earlier
>You don't even accept human instincts.
you can keep saying this but if you're not gonna back it up with anything it'll continue to be meaningless nonsense lol
>>83998536
>>83998555
more super scientific science lol

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ITT: Social constructionists getting BTFO by facts and logic.

Read some Steven Pinker, he will save you from leftist delusions and pseudoscience.

>>83998577
>Social constructionists
lol always a good sign when you have to tack "-ist" onto the commonly accepted scientific position.

like when young earth creationists call people "evolutionists"

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>>83998574
>lol and we're hitting once again on that "too stupid to realize the irony of spouting unscientific bullshit" thing from earlier
You people are so incredibly mad that the scientific community doesn't believe in your bullshit.
Are you honestly saying testosterone and estrogen have absolutely no effect on personality traits? lmao
You can't even explain why you believe what I said is "unscientific".
Go on, I'll wait.

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>>83998574
>more super scientific science lol
not an argument lmao

>>83998606
>BAWWWWW STOP USING "-ists"
>calls people creation-ists
AAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

>>83998606
>I know better than Ph Ds that literally study the human brain and evolutionary psychology for a living

no, no you don't, you're a tumblr landwhale with no argument

enjoy your delusions lel

>>83998623
>Are you honestly saying testosterone and estrogen have absolutely no effect on personality traits?
are you honestly too stupid to realize that this isn't contradictory to sex and gender being different things?
>>83998657
>molymemeing
>mad at his made up words getting called out
wew
>>83998673
>I know better than Ph Ds that literally study the human brain and evolutionary psychology for a living
seems to be the position of a lot of people in this thread

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>>83998606
>the commonly accepted scientific position.

>>83998574
Dresses and shaved legs are hot only on women. That is a fact.

>>83998691
>IM A SMORT REDPILL I DONT APPEAL TO THE AUTHORITY OF PEEPL WHO STUDY THAT FIELD FOR A LIVING LIEK SOME KIND OF SHEPL

>>83998712
>my (((nu-science))) trumps biological fact that has been known for over a hundred years

my sex junk oh oh oh

>>83998735
and we're back around to
>SCIENCE STOPPED IN THE YEAR I SAID IT DID
good hustle, you shaved 12 seconds off your lap time!

>>83998687
>are you honestly too stupid to realize that this isn't contradictory to sex and gender being different things?
The debate was whether gender is a social construct or not. That's what I was talking about.
Even if sex and gender are different things, gender "expression" is instinctual.
You couldn't even respond to my point that "gender" is instinctual.

>>mad at his made up words
words used by countless PhDs who are smarter than you are made up now? oh my god you are so mad lol
lmao you literally whined about people using -ists then just did it yourself

How fucking embarrassing, just delete all your posts in this thread top kek

>>83998749
no faggot Im saying your social science is bullshit

>>83986011

I'm more confused how anyone's still paying money for TV. People actually buy netflix today?

>>83998749
>>SCIENCE STOPPED IN THE YEAR I SAID IT DID
What?
No, it's always been consistent, it just doesn't agree with you.

>good hustle, you shaved 12 seconds off your lap time!
this is the most r e d d i t comment in the thread

>>83998766
>you literally whined about people using -ists then just did it yourself
lol this is the level of literacy that american public schools produce

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Why do actual scientists like Steven Pinker make leftists so incredibly mad bros?

He exposes them for their delusional pseudoscience and they can do nothing but squirm and scream like babbies.

>>83998801
at least we know that there are only two genders, mentally ill queer.

>>83998766
>gender "expression" is instinctual
you keep saying this like it's not retarded gobbledygook. what aspects of gender expression do you think are not learned behaviours?
>>83998810
>cant actually cite anything relevant, just keeps posting some guy's picture like that's gonna do anything

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>>83998801
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>83998845
yes, once again proving that my criticism wasn't just "using -ist"

or did you not even read all of what you just screencapped?

>>83998841
>some guy's picture
Wait?
Do you not know who cognitive scientist Steven Pinker is?

>Pinker has been named as one of the world's most influential intellectuals by various magazines. He has won awards from the American Psychological Association, the National Academy of Sciences, the Royal Institution, the Cognitive Neuroscience Society and the American Humanist Association. He delivered the Gifford Lectures at the University of Edinburgh in 2013. He has served on the editorial boards of a variety of journals, and on the advisory boards of several institutions. He has frequently participated in public debates on science and society.

He uses actual science to destroy you kiddies in debates.
Actual scientists think you people are delusional retards.

>>83998874
>still citing nothing relevant

>>83998841
>what aspects of gender expression do you think are not learned behaviours?

Dominance/submissiveness for one. There are countless others like perceptive of cuteness.
Do you honestly believe these things are purely social constructs?
There's no way you're THAT stupid.

Also, you can't even spell behaviors correctly lol.

>>83998873
>get absolutely btfo
>argue over the suffixes people use
>get btfo again
>lie and claim you didn't get btfo
>get btfo again

it just never ends

>>83998909
>dominance/submissiveness
but that's not an aspect of gender expression, it's just a personality trait
>perceptive of cuteness
super scientific once again, but are you saying you're such a manly testosterone man's man with manliness that you don't think puppies and kittens and shit are cute?

>>83998841
> Males have much higher level of performance in three major spatial tasks which include spatial visualization, spatial perception and mental rotation.[35][36] Spatial visualization illicit the smallest difference with a deviation of 0.13, perception a deviation of 0.44 and mental rotation the largest with a deviation of 0.73.[35][37][38] Another 2013 meta-analysis published in the journal Educational Review found greater male mental rotation in a deviation of 0.57 which only grew larger as time limits were added.[39] These male advantages manifests themselves in math and mechanical tasks for example significantly higher male performance on tests of geometry, measurement, probability, statistics and especially mechanical reasoning.[40] It also manifests and largely mediates higher male performance in arithmetic and computational fluency[41] All of these math and technical fields involve spatial abilities such as rotation and manipulation of imagined space, symbols and objects. Mental rotation has also been linked to higher success in fields of engineering, physics and chemistry regardless of gender.[42]

>Current literature suggests women have higher level of social cognition. A 2012 review published in the journal Neuropsychologia found that women are better at recognizing facial effects, expression processing and emotions in general.[62] Men were only better at recognizing specific behaviour which includes anger, aggression and threatening cues.[62] A 2012 study published in the journal Neuropsychology with a sample of 3,500 individuals from ages 8–21, found that females outperformed males on face memory and all social cognition tests.

>>83998943
holy shit are you STILL too stupid to process what i was actually saying in that post you screencapped? try to go over it a few more times. maybe slow down a bit since you're all excited

>>83998888
Major scientists laugh at you and your delusional theories and create countless scientific research proving you wrong.
How is this not relevant?

>>83998952
>>83998967
>male and female brains are different
we've already been over this in this thread lol good christ you people are fucking thick

>>83998964
>get absolutely btfo
>argue over the suffixes people use
>get btfo again
>lie and claim you didn't get btfo
>get btfo again
>whine and claim you meant something else
>get btfo again

it just never ends

>>83998989
i know it's probably really hard for someone of your mental capacity but you have to read the whole sentence and then process each and every one of the words in conjunction with one another so you can fully extract the meaning of the text

you can do it, i believe in you

>>83998944
>but that's not an aspect of gender expression, it's just a personality trait
which is an aspect of people's gender
try to keep up

>super scientific once again,
lol
holy fuck
Answer this question with a yes or no answer.
Do you honestly believe the human perception of cuteness is a 100% social construct?

Please hurry so I can laugh at you quicker.

>but are you saying you're such a manly testosterone man's man
I'm not, I'm actually gay.
What the fuck lol

>that you don't think puppies and kittens and shit are cute?
Man you ARE slow.
Most men DO think these things are cute.
Woman brains are more wired than men to think they are cute.
Do you think women think kittens are cute more than men do because it's a social construct?
How about children?
Do you think children think kittens are cute much more than adults because it's a social construct?
holy fuck are you honestly this dumb?

>>83998985
>Children as young as 9 months-old prefer to play with toys specific to their own gender, according to a new study. The research suggests the possibility that boys and girls follow different developmental trajectories with respect to selection of gender-typed toys and that there is both a biological and a developmental-environmental components to the sex differences seen in object preferences.

>"Our results show that there are significant sex differences across all three age groups, with the finding that children in the youngest group, who were aged between 9-17months when infants are able to crawl or walk and therefore make independent selections, being particularly interesting; the ball was a favourite choice for the youngest boys and the youngest girls favoured the cooking pot."

>>83998985
> Children who are in the pre-socialization stage of their cognitive development exhibit sex-specific preferences (Jadva, Hines, & Golombok, 2010; Alexander, Wilcox, & Woods, 2009). Hence, by definition, these toy penchants manifest themselves prior to an infant’s capacity to be socialized via learning. I should also mention that these sex-specific preferences occur in exactly the same manner across temporal periods and cultural settings. It would be an extraordinary coincidence that parents across all known cultures seem to “socialize” their children via the same sex-specific toys.

>Little girls who suffer from congenital adrenal hyperplasia, an endocrinological disorder that masculinizes morphological features and behavioral patterns, exhibit toy preferences that are more masculine than their female counterparts who do not suffer from the disorder (Berenbaum & Hines, 1992). In other words, there is a link between hormones and toy/play preferences (see also point 4 below).

>Studies using our primate cousins (e.g., rhesus and vervet monkeys) have found the exact same sex-specific preferences in infants within those species (Hassett, Siebert, &Wallen, 2008; Alexander & Hines, 2002). It might be difficult to argue that papa and mama rhesus and vervet monkeys are engaging in “stereotypically sexist” gender socialization of their offspring!

>As I explained in an earlier post (see here), the digit ratio is a sexually dimorphic marker of exposure to androgens in utero. Males who exhibit more masculine digit ratios are more likely to engage in male-specific behaviors and preferences (cf. the link between men’s digit ratios and risk-taking proclivities, Stenstrom, Saad, Nepomuceno, & Mendenhall, 2011). With that in mind, boys’ digit ratios and sex-typed play are correlated such that more masculine ratios correspond to more masculine play behaviors (Hönekopp & Thierfelder, 2009).

>>83999055
>which is an aspect of people's gender
>try to keep up
but you're the one who was asked to name an aspect of gender expression and then didn't. you keep up lol
>Do you honestly believe the human perception of cuteness is a 100% social construct?
it's probably some of both, but once again, this is "perception of cuteness" is also not an aspect of gender expression