https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/jos s-whedon-wonder-woman-se

>It starts an ongoing theme of lurid descriptions of women’s appearances. (Especially their feet. Diana is barefoot in scene one, and we get several foot updates later on.)
/our guy/ confirmed

>>83983249
>lurid descriptions of women’s appearances

but filmmakers are supposed to describe what characters/scenes look like

>be Joss Whedon
>turn your fetish for being beaten up by high school girls into a directing career
>make millions
>not only do you get to direct nubile young actresses in action scenes, but feminists think you're a legend
>let it go to your head and start touting yourself as the great male hope for women
>start pushing your scripts too far
>they turn on you and your entire career implodes

Is he a tragic hero? He just wanted to fap to skinny girls doing kung fu.

>the left turning on another supposed male feminist

kek, i love this shit

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>>83983299
how can we cast them as idris elba later on if we know what they look like

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>>83983170
thank xir-god, that xir (pic related) got to read it, so we wouldn't be triggered by this problematic cis-screed.

>>83983249
>Especially their feet.
So it's...Tarankino?

>>83983299
screenwriters actually literally aren't, that's up to the casting director

>>83983170
>Joss just became /ourguy/
I like this timeline. JL might have barefoot Diana shots after all.

>>83983170
he's a shitty writer who wrote a shitty script?

yeah, i think he has a lot in common with most of you lot

also- don't know if any of you guys have actually read his script. it's undefendably bad

>the guy who made buffy isn't enough of a feminist for modern feminists

>>83983474
Feminist now a days means killing all white men

People who think they "get" women typically are sexist. They think there's some kind of barrier between understanding women and everyone else.

>>83983474
Buffy is still fine but he's gotten worse about that kind of thing over the years

for instance: look at Dollhouse. Dollhouse is trash, and it's trash in a decidedly sexist way the way that nothing in Buffy really was

>>83983299
Not really, though I suppose the premise would be that Joss was also going to direct it?
A script is written to be vague in that regard so the director can do what he wants

>>83983428
>actually literally
Not true. If the character's appearance is important to the role, they're described and they do casting to find someone physically fit for the role. The director can go in a different direction if he wants to, of course.

>>83983639
true enough but, if you read the script Whedon wrote, he's definitely not doing that

and even still it's kinda rude to do it more than necessary, it's definitely not something that happens for every character like the person i replied to said

>>83983535
This. Men and women are people who think very much the same.

is the script actually "bad" and/or "Sexist". ?? I can't imagine a WW script not being the exact movie we got

10 years ago if you asked anyone to describe a Wonder Woman movie you'd get pretty close to actual movie they ended up releasing

>>83983934
wonder woman isn't the main character of whedon's script. Steve is. the movie is almost entirely Steve explaining to amazons and to Diana exactly what to do and exactly how their way of life is wrong. and then they respond by wanting to fuck him.

it's not a good script

Imtoo much of an autist to talk to girls irl even though I fucked over 50 girls. Does that make me a feminist?

>>83983170
That idiot donated hundreds of thousands of bucks to Hillary. Even if you hate Trump like most of us you still can't trust that faggot.

>>83983170
No, he's a massive virtue signally cuck and will probably apologize for writing this.

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>>83983348

>>83984035
personally, when i watch a movie called Wonder Woman i'm not watching it to see some dude named Steve do all the cool things and get all the credit

i didn't go to the theater to see Steve Proves Women Wrong, The Movie

>>83984003
>the movie is almost entirely Steve explaining to amazons and to Diana exactly what to do and exactly how their way of life is wrong. and then they respond by wanting to fuck him.
So almost the same. Steve does explain shit to Diana and then fucks her.

>>83984003
>this is the guy who wants to make Batgirl movie

Fuck this shit...give it back to Refn

>>83983726
now thats just retarded

>>83984224
it's much different in tone and much, much more blatant. in Whedon's script this is Steve's Movie. he is the main character, Diana is a supporting role. they don't have things to learn from each other, he's just kinda always right

>>83983170
SJWs turning on Joss Whedon never gets old.
Its the dumb cuck's own fault for ever bending the knee to them but how far are they going to keep riding him before he breaks? They will never, ever, stop now.

>>83983170
The Twitter story is just some dumb cunt complaining about it. A solo person and their critiques. Also she's a nobody with a tumblr.

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>>83983170
BASED HOSS WHEDON MASTER OF MISOGYNY
But seriously that shit was horrible, Whedon is a terrible writer.

>>83985296
t. Joe Sweden

>>83983348
We know how the protagonist of Dark Tower looks and they still casted Elba, breh

>>83985592
8/10 good job

>>83985730
never got why DC/writers always try to get rid of Steve (especially post crisis) yet insists on Lois being superman's soul mate.
Lois was generally shown to be a huge pest to Superman!!! REEEE FUCK YOU DC

>>83983170
R-Raimi?
Rev up those Wonderwoman Holocaust

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>>83983170
>fired a woman for getting pregnant
>turned sole MCU female hero into a captive princess who is a "monster" because she can't bear children
>every show he writes includes at least one abused or raped woman

But it's okay because he says he's a feminist.

Feminism doesn't need feminists like Joss Whedon.

>>83983726
That's right up there in misleading advice with 'just bee urself!"

>>83983348
I'm intrigued. What is this?

>>83983170

If you're a white male, I believe it's your duty to be sexist and racist. You're going to be called it anyway.

>>83988599
Without defending Joss or his views, that Black widow diatribe wasn't her saying she's a monster because she can't have kids. It was her saying she's been chopped up and put back together without the ability to reproduce on the off chance that anything like a child would ever be more important to her than the mission. That's why she's a monster. Because she's incapable of caring on that level about anything other than killing.

>>83983170
can we see any excerpts?

>>83989214
that's a lot of really nice insight that isn't included in the movie at all

>>83988761
it's true. men and women think the dang same

>>83985730
it's great! i want him in the movie! but the movie's not called Steve

>>83989383
They have certain trains of thought that are the same but no, they do not.

>>83989617
the thank the d*ng sange

>>83989214
Still, she was literally kidnapped and held in a castle tower by the villain and served as a honeypot to calm the Hulk down.

He's a fucking hypocrite.

>>83989700
Why wouldn't they send a slut to calm a roidhead down? Do you think they should've just assumed he was a queer and sent in a man? Are you really this stupid?

>>83989700
i think his views on a lot of those things as a writer also changed around the end of buffy. it's definitely noticeable in dollhouse- it is pretty clearly not written the same way. but it extends to serenity and the two avengers movies, too

>>83983315
>SJW
>tragic hero
Is that me or someone starting shilling for JL?

Why does this fat retard try at every opportunity to pander to mentally ill feminists despite them being impossible to please?

>>83989987
Because he one of them

>>83989987
It's an abusive relationship.

>>83983474
If you took all the girls' superpowers in Buffy they'd be hateable. They're not role models unless you can do crazy Kung Fu or magic.

>>83989987
He was raised improperly as a child

>>83989772
What do you mean?

>>83990435
he started getting really obsessed with having wimpy dudes beat up his female protagonists, over and over again

>>83983249
I understand there are a lot of fucking foot faggots here but seriously don't act like this is your fucking foot subreddit you piece of shit. Kill yourself.

i was so hyped for Justice League but now a SJW redditor has taken over im not even going to watch it. ever. James Cameron is the last hope for kino.

>>83990499
Ah. I've only seen Firefly, Buffy and his Avengers stuff, and I watched Firefly years ago.

>>83984003
>>83985059
Yep, pretty much whats happening right now with the failure of The Mummy: The legend of Tom Cruise: Origins

>>83989987
He has nothing else

>>83999999

>>83983363
>being a feminist isn't enough
>to be a real sjw ally to women you have to become one

liberalism is a disease

>>83988599
go back to tumblr

>feminists hold themselves to their own standards
>"ha they're eating their own!"
>feminists don't hold themselves to their own standards
>"ha they're hypocrites!"

>>83983249
We already knew this from Firefly and Summer Glau.

>>83991027

that post hasn't happened yet you retard

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>>83983535
>People who think they "get" women typically are sexist

That's because women are horrible creatures.

>>83983170
>"Especially their feet. Diana is barefoot in scene one, and we get several foot updates later on."

literally /ourguy/

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>>83993148

That's because feminist "standards" are completely retarded and evil. See how that works? The only answer is to stop being feminist scum.

>>83993352
>feminism is bad because of a couple of tweets

Couldn't have happened to a bigger cuck

Eat shit Jossy boy

REMINDER joss the cuck got bullied out of twatter by his own liberal kind. Also hes a bald manlet LMAO

Post the pic of him giving Hilary his last fucking dollar

>>83993528
>a couple

Stop lying using green text.

>>83983363

>baker-whitelaw

Sounds privileged

>>83993662
>"it wasn't a couple it was seven!"
Feminism btfo, am I right?

with nobody left to fight, the war economy demands femenists turn on each other

Anybody know where the battle in WW1 was set in WW? Looked kind of like the northern Somme

>>83984147
>like most of us

>>83993720
It was in Belgium

>>83984147
>hate Trump
>/tv/

>>83993720
>>83993762
It's in Flanders, near Bruges

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>>83993720
Considering that there were only british troops depicted, it was probably northern Flanders. French soldiers were manning the front everywhere else.

>>83993708

Are you female? Because you sound like a bitch. Try to speak like a man when you're on this website.

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>>83993812
Ah wrong one.

>>83993819

>im 19

>>83993819
Whoa guys watch out we got an internet badass here.

>>83993911
You're clearly a woman lashing out because you got found out, and you're not from here. Go back where you came from

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>>83993939
"no"

>>83993829
Makes sense.

>>83993946
Thanks for proving my point, Reddit. Now get out

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>>83993969
"no"

>>83983249
L I T E R A L L Y / O U R G U Y /

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>>83993852
>>83993911

You couldn't even deny it. There are only two groups that defend feminists. Females and male feminist orbiters like Whedon. Either way, you are bitches.

>>83993939
You can't make me leave. You're impotent.

>>83983170
>perhaps the most bizarre part of the script is Joss' insistence of cutting away to multi car pileups every ten minutes
Fucking hell, I didn't know Raimi was taking on apprentices.

>>83993829
The British really do everything they can to avoid pulling their weight in wars don't they...

>>83994073
We were busy in India

>Joe Sweden
Didn't they already turn on him after Ultron or whatever it was?

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>>83994082
>Dear France
>Sorry we can't help with the battle against hordes of machinegun-toting Germans that will decide the fate of a free Europe, we're currently a bit busy in the colonies drinking tea and occassionally shooting a spear-armed native.
>Hope you understand
>Lots of Love
>The Anglo

>>83994047
Please quit saying curse words on the internet.

>>83994089
Yeah. He's not radfem golden boy anymore. No more photo ops with Sarkeesian.

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>>83994073
Eh, wouldn't want to demean them here what with them being valiant allies in WWI, but it is true that they were also busying themselves with Persia, Suez, and Gallipoli (though there were equally as many French soldiers levied for the Gallipoli campaign as there were Brits). And there was also their fleet to think of, and to man before they even thought about mobilizing troops for France.

However, I will concede that they didn't become at all relevant to the war on the western front until 1916, by which it was only then that they had reinstated conscription, which is why the battle of the Somme emerged as so wounding to them in 1916 (again, remember that the French mobilized as many men as the British for the Somme offensive, yet it's dismissed here, mainly because there weren't as many men lost for France, their being already experienced and toughened, while the British were newbies then), since it was by then their first instance of soldiers perishing by the thousands at once, while to the French and Germans, it was nothing new, especially now that they were slaughtering each other at Verdun, and didn't think much of the Somme. However, you'll notice that by when the mutinies swept across the French mutiny, by 1917, the British were also able to pull their weight too, becoming the main force for the third battle of Ypres, and all that jolly business. But yah, it's telling that Britain only lost half as many men as France did for the entire war.

But they're good chaps.

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>>83994135
Get in the fucking vat, chap.

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>>83994151
>photo ops with Sarkeesian

I wonder how much money Sarkeesian extorted from Whedon for that picture. She is the Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton of feminism.

>Men are universally depicted as sexist pigs, but this isn’t actually beneficial to Diana’s role as a feminist hero.

This. Fucking this. I don't know why supposedly 'feminist' things do this, they show you a capable woman, the characters see a capable woman, but then the male characters continue treating her like she's an inept little girl out of her depth, just to really, really hammer home how all men are sexist pigs.

This is why Furiosa worked in Mad Max, this is why Rita Vrataski worked in Edge of Tomorrow, they just showed them as capable and professional, no need for a full on 'HURR MEN IS PIGS' treatment just so the writer/director can virtue signal how 'feminist' they are. Immortan Joe didn't rag on about how 'kill her, she's just a girl' or some shit just to reinforce how he's the baddy.

Nu-Ghostbusters was a classic example of this, it's not enough for women to succeed, men have to be flagellated at the same time or it's not 'feminist'. Tends to be fucking numale 'allies' that do this the most to be honest.

>>83994073
Britain has always had a small land army

We really only excel at naval warfare

>>83983315
extremely accurate summation of his career

>>83994299
Zero dollars. Sarkeesian is (or was) a fan of Whedon and Buffy, and Whedon was (or is) a fan of Sarkeesian and her Youtube feminism videos.

>>83993708
>what are examples of a larger set

Serious question.
Has he ever brushed his teeth?

>>83994754
Prove it.

>>83994379
>excelled

Past tense. We have to share sips with France now

>>83994379
While Britain's main strength was always the navy, it also had an incredibly high standard of training after Cromwell's reforms.
While it had the weakness of Officers buying their way in until Wellington's reforms, where it still remained a problem, it often had the best trained infantry in the world.

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>>83994326
>it's not enough for women to succeed, men have to be flagellated at the same time or it's not 'feminist'
feminism.jpg

>>83994326
Lel I remember the whole "Fury Road is hard feminist - Fury Road is not feminist" drama when it first released

>>83983170
Avengers and Avengers 2 sucked on every level. He can't direct. He's shit. Unless you're a freak that speculates Disney forces all the Marvel movies to look awful.

>>83989948
What's wrong with being an SJW?

>>83997013
It's a disease of the mind that forces you to import your politics into absolutely everything in your life, like being a /pol/lack but with even greater levels of imagined moral superiority.

>>83997013
>What's wrong with being an waste of a life?
I don't even know..

>>83984224
In the movie we got Wonder Woman was highly skeptical of Steve's and humanity's explanations, and repeatedly saved the day by resistering their anti-action memery. The movie was about not letting excuses and shit people say influence you and keep you from being a hero. It's not coincidence that the entire plot of the villain was to whisper deceitful, warmongering things into people's ears. It's an anti-meme movie. Steve isn't just supposed to be 'right' or whatever, he's supposed to be expressing the hegemony of the era, so that Wonder Woman could overcome it.

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>>83983249
it is literally a part of the comics though that gods walk barefoot

>>83997215
>SJW: the post

>>83997318
That's what the movie was about though. That you shouldn't let yourself be held back by other people's doubt. It's a movie about personal authority. What did you think it was about?

>>83997351
>What did you think it was about?
About ebil stupid (because even DDD was designed by female) males, while feminazi were only good guys.

>>83997436
But one of the villains was a woman who sincerely enjoyed gassing people and associated fire with human purity.

>>83983474
the empowered women in firefly were:
>stronk black woman with nerdy white husband (nerd fantasy)
>prostitute - (i'm a good guy who doesn't blame the women for this, they had no other choice)
>chubby mechanic who gets rape threats
his idea of string women is a cliche

>>83984256
>Refn Batgirl
WAIT!!!! was this a thing??? omg, neon, autistic female superhero, tunes. please make it happen

This was ten years ago. Since then feminists cut off his dick

>>83990537
>doesn't appreciate the beauty of female feet
>calls others faggots
really tingled by receptors

>>83994047
His head looks like a big toe lol

>>83984147
>(((like most of us)))

>>83984147
Replied to be included in the screencap where we laff at you

>>83997901
Yup hating Whedon is goofy add me to the cap

>>83997969
Don't ever give me or my wife's son (you)'s ever again

>>83995475
>modern feminism .jpg

Last I heard he left Twitter temporarily for calling some cancer survivor girls ugly fucks because they posed in a picture with some American republican

>>83997674
>But one of the villains was a woman who sincerely enjoyed gassing people and associated fire with human purity.
Yeah and only one villain who was allowed to live.

>>83995475
Well, we're transitioning to a matriarchal society. Women have to succeed and males have to be brought down and dominated. It's only a matter of time.

>>83983170
>I can't even comprehend movies
t. pink-haired hambeast

REMINDER
every non-archived link is clickbait
you faggots are just making them money

>>83999558
>It's only a matter of time.
Or liberal countries will lose the rivalry against traditional

>>83990306
Literally the entire myth arc theme of Buffy is that's it's not about your powers, it's about the choices you make.
Buffy is heroic and a role model not because she has super strength, but because she makes the right choice. She abandons her youth and her dreams and even kills her lover because it's the right thing, she has to save the world.

>>83991853
That's a tranny? I know British women are not nice on the eye but I didn't know she was a he?

>>83999558
It only will be bad if STEM gets fucked over by feminism. Business and Arts jobs are really non-important because at the end of the day jews will be the one who make the big decisions not a female goy.

>>83999729
Having to pick a world order between commie china, mudslim countries and a degenerate west?
The future sounds grim. You really don't need WWIII for a dystopia.

>>83993672
It's not surprisingly the ones who complain the most about privileges are the one who enjoyed the most of it.

>>83997747
You forgot about...
>waifish teenage retard with payxhix powers that threatens and beats large men

>>83999851
>It only will be bad if STEM gets fucked over by feminism.

But that's already happening.

>>83999415
What about all the German soldiers who are deliberately shown to live, and specifically get scenes of them being happy and embracing their former enemies? What about the male heroes, don't you think Steve was ultimately glorified as a just male in this story? There's a million things more important than if you survive the war, that makes you good or evil.

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>>83983570
>ywn rent a doll to preform your fantasies

>>84001490
>What about all the German soldiers who are deliberately shown to live, and specifically get scenes of them being happy and embracing their former enemies?
What about dead German soldiers?
>, don't you think Steve was ultimately glorified as a just male in this story?
Of course, since he acts like submissive numale under strong independent womyn.
>There's a million things more important than if you survive the war, that makes you good or evil.
Let me ask, do you ever was at war?

>>84001859
>survival is morality
I can see where your worldview is limited

>>84001946
>>survival is morality
Excuse me?
Also, German soldiers are basically stortroopers, too stupid, too incompitent to be killed like Ares

>>84001992
>>84001992
So you really think the only gender issue that matters is bodycount? Do you not know the difference between dying for a just cause, and surviving as an evil person, based on mercy you don't deserve? Poison killed the most people and lost the war, she doesn't magically assert the superiority of females just because she didn't take a bullet.

>>83989585
Always relevant. It's amazing how these people dont learn anything.

>>83993708
cucklord these days cant even try

>>83983170
It's over. Joss is finished

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>>83993528
Classic Leaf.

>>84002156
>Poison killed the most people and lost the war,
And was allowed to live, unlike other main bad guys (none cares about nonames) in movie.

Sexism is not necessarily bad

Fuck off /tv/-edditors

>>84002584
>Sexism is always good
fair fix

>>84002584
>Mental illness is okay

>>84002719

Fallacy, fuck off.

>>84002825

Not a mental illness, fuck off.

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>>83984147
>hate Trump like most of us

>>84002422
Again, being granted mercy does not transform you into a good person. This movie happily portrays the potential of women to perform great evil, just because the movie didn't end with the day of the rope doesn't mean she wasn't an evil cunt who gasses people for fun. How can you say this movie called her a good person?

>>84003015
Most people hate Trump.
4channers are not people. Ive been here 2007. Everyone that is here suspends their decency at the door.
Trump is a meme. Supporting Trump is a meme. Government can not and should not be a place for a meme.

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>>84003156
Please, tell us more.

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>>84003156
This much salt.

>>83983170
I hate Joss Whedon so much if I ever met Him I'd punch him in the face. I just hate this cock sucker so much. Is it possible to hate someone as much as I hate Joss Whedon. Just want to punch that old bitch in the face.

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>>83985465
>Whedon is a terrible writer
no

>>84003466
Joss Whedon is a stupid bitch and I hope he gets AIDS!

>>84003102
>Again, being granted mercy does not transform you into a good person
Nope, of course, not, I didn't imply anything like this.
>This movie happily portrays the potential of women to perform great evil,
Nope since she was showed as victim of white patriarchy.

>>84003845
What about her burning desire to gas people as a means of existential purification comes from men? She's the only one obsessed with gas in this movie. Ludendorff just wants a good weapon, she's the crazy mad scientist bitch who's all about gassing the evil away. Also this movie says that both men and women are manipulated by the same eternal force.

>>84003952
>She's the only one obsessed with gas in this movie.
She is showed as the main victim of war and Ares.
>manipulated by the same eternal force.
Yep and this force is white men, while feminism is salvation

>>83983299
Lol someone's never read Malick or Mckgee