>CGI from 2006 still looks better than CGI from 2017

Good cgi always looks good

>>83939381
>practicals from any year still look better than CGI from 2017

Why is this allowed?

It's becoming increasingly obvious that you can make CGI look good if you put in the time and effort.

The guys at ILM are the best at what they do.

Effort and outsourcing. All the higherups just want more money and decided to give jobs to Pajeets, who don't work as hard because they just want to live.

>>83939408
>>83939395
In order from worst to best looking:
>bad CGI
>bad practicals
>good CGI
>good practicals
>great practicals
>great CGI

Great CGI is so good you don't even know it's fake.

>>83939430
this unfortunately

any cgi > poo cgi

>>83939430
People don't even notice half the shit that is cgi now because it is just that good

>>83939450
Nah. Practicals shit all over CGI and CGI Practicals shit all over either separately.

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>2002

>>83939450
I think it depends more on what exactly the effect is. Some things you should really just go to the effort of practical effects for instead of being lazy and outsourcing to some fresh out of uni plebs.

>>83939381


Wait...that isn't a mask?

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>>83939595

>>83939450
Practical is always better for explosions or car chases though

>>83939667
Which Disney intern fucked this one up?

>>83939483

CGI can easily be superior to practical but it's expensive and animation studios are always offering the cheapest contracts to undercut competitors

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>>83939632

>>83939632
>step two
>just fucking animate davy jones

>>83939667
Here's what I see
>stronger cheekbones
>shorter philtrum
>smoother jawline
>glossy eyes
>more eyeliner
>straighter teeth

>>83939595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY2YRESf9eQ

CGI is always shiny. I can't recall any cgi that looked good that wasn't shiny, and it's usually got a reason for it, like the orangutan in the apes movie. He was wet yet faggots always bring that up as great cgi, same as ops. He's wet.

>>83939450
Rule of thumb: CGI only when it physically cannot be done practically, and then it'd better be good.

>>83939808
And it still fails in comparison to the real deal.

>>83939381

that disney budget

>>83939878
well, yeah
its not real

>>83939833
>He's wet

Well yeah, he's a man-squid and spends most of his time underwater

>>83939450
great cgi only works when they use it to touch up one or two things not make entire shots out of it. If little shop of horrors was made into a movie know Audrey 2 would be a mess of cgi garbage and look dated in half a year.

Is it ever explained why Jones and his crew transformed into sea creatures but then turned back into human form when Will took over as captain of the Dutchman?

>>83939926
My pet occy wasn't wet and shiny for more than a minute when he was out of his tank.
We never see him completely dry, which would really give us a visual as to how well the cgi is. Making something look wet and slimy when it's meant to look wet and slimy, and would probably look wet and slimy even dry, isn't a feat

>>83939381
someone knew new cgi tricks, didn't tell anyone, and left the company.

>>83939981
It was the will of the Force

>>83939667
Wtf that CGI looks like PS2 era. can't they afford capable people to do this shit?

I hate how they turned him into a bitch in the 3rd movie

>>83939381
What's the best CGI ever aside from this and Jurassic Park?

>>83940271
The first potc movie.

>>83939767
This, they're also all borderline bankrupt. VFX is literally the nicolas cage of industries

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>>83940015
>not showing your effects in environments and lighting that make them look shitty is a bad thing
You should go work at marvel

>>83940048
All money goes into the pockets of executives. You think they'll dump massive amounts of money when the normies only go to movie theaters to have another place to make out?

>giant corporate media advert

nahh fuck off netflix

>>83939981
He stopped doing his job so calypso cursed them. They got a fresh start with will

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>>83939381
>CGI from a chocolate advert looks better than most movies with multi-million dollar budgets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx9eDoS76LM

>>83942280

>gets in the back

fucking slut

>>83942280
this shit is just wrong

>>83939663
one of the most impressive explosions I've seen on film was entirely CGI (Avatar, tree destruction scene)
mostly because it wasn't just a stock explosive effect pasted onto a scene

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>plebs don't realize all of the best CGI in movie history is done by the same people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Light_%26_Magic#Filmography

By the way, watch the film 'Rango' if you want to see some really good CGI.

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>>83939381
Because computing power reached levels where photorealistic offline rendering become feasible.
Now it is more a matter of effort and money poured into creating the assets and animation than technological limits.

People also stopped being impressed by GCI since there was nothing to awe them anymore.

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>>83942280
wew lad

>>83939381
Davy Jones was a fucking miracle.
Everybody always rave about Gollum, but i think DJ was the pinnacle of CGI creatures.
It's just perfect, and it never buried the actor's performance.

>>83942419
>the way all those animals look uniquely ugly
god that movie had fantastic visuals

>>83942697
The tentacles covering his face help since you aren't used to them so fakery is not so easily detected. You're also not used to looking at translucent squid skin.
ILM can't do a CGI human face that will fool people.
You look at human faces and skin in different lighting and in movement all the time.

>>83942697
It's like when the lead animators on Who Framed Roger Rabbit were asked why their work looked so much better than other live action hybrid movies, like Cool World. Their response was basically "because it's really hard work and other animators are just lazy".
That's the problem with good/bad CG. The good stuff takes a fuck-ton of time to create and most studios cut corners.

>>83942815
that's true for all aspects of movies though, but for some reason when CGI goes wrong people blame ALL CGI rather than just blaming that particular instance

>>83942419
oh shit, I guess Disney owns ILM now, huh? What a fucking deal they got from George Lucas - Bob Iger is a golden god when it comes to acquisitions.

>>83939450
For those interested in great CGI, watch Zodiac.

https://youtu.be/xW2xhBSfFps

>>83942612
the flashback marvel stuff has been pretty good. younger RDJ, kurt russell, michael douglas, hybrid blending of dominic cooper/john slattery as howard stark, hulk is pretty good too

contrast that with >>83939667 which is weaker

which makes no sense because peter cushing cgi looked better than leia cgi in the same movie

>>83942948
Douglas was spectacular, boy RDJ was meh, the rest was shit.
Hulk looks like ass.

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>>83942716
tru f@m

>>83942921
I think so. It's funny how things work out. ILM are basically responsible for Pixar too, which was also acquired by Disney.

>>83942948

Tarkin had much lower lighting in his scenes than Leia's which helps, you can hide a lot of visual inaccuracies in the dark.

>>83943000
while hulk is never going to look real because he's a 8 foot tall monster, it does have ruffalos features and shit

russell looked legit, turns out they didn't cgi kurt a lot because he's based, and the makeup team was that good

> “Before we went in there we assumed that it was gonna be all CGI. And [makeup artist Dennis Liddiard] said to James [Gunn] and the cinematographer [Henry Braham], ‘Hey, I can young this guy down. I got some tricks in my bag. Would that be helpful?’ And they said, ‘Yeah, as much as you can. That would be great.’ I was speaking to the gal last night who does the CGI. She said, ‘What did you think of what we did?’ And I said, ‘I thought it was great. But I understand you didn’t do a whole lot?’ She said, ‘No we didn’t. We touched it up here and there.’ He did a fantastic job. He does have a lot of tricks, not just makeup. Cosmetics I should say.”

>>83942280
I always just assumed it was a lookalike

>>83942940
any Fincher movie, really

Dragon Tattoo, Social Network, and Gone Girl have the best CGI of any movies ever made

>>83942280
that is so much better than Tarkin or Leia, holy fucking shit

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>>83939450
No.

CGI never.

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>>83940580
amazing cgi

>>83939381
I love your comparison for reference, OP.

>>83942940
>240p

>>83942940
Man, i never knew there was so much CG work in that movie
It's practically a blockbuster, wtf

This was my favorite PotC movie I don't care what black pearl faggots say

>>83942280
And to think this came out like 4 years ago, damn.

>>83942280
Now THAT'S a good example of uncanny valley. Goddamn unnerving seeing her in the bus.

>>83943076
>He does have a lot of tricks, not just makeup.

Sinister.

>>83945451
My nigga.

>>83940015
Post occy pls

>>83945451
2>1>3>5>4

>>83945626
There's almost no uncanny valley, the only point at which it starts to break is when she blinks after getting in the car.

>>83942280
>i ha a vagina so i can steal some driver's hat and get into an strangers car without saying nothing for him to drive me around
i hate this fucking shit

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>>83942940
There was CGI in that movie!?

>>83945972
Go ree ree somewhere else you whiny faggot.

>>83942940
this guy does a great break down of fincher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QChWIFi8fOY

>>83945854
Haven't seen 5. But I agree with your list on everything else.

>>83939381
Most CGI bankrupts the company that does it because the Jews making the movie don't pay them very much for there work.

>>83946296
>blood is CG

god damn

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>>83942940
>>83946296
Holy moly, that is some impressive shit to say the least

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>>83942612

Obviously they just should've had Kirk Douglas as older Pym and Michael as younger.

>>83942280
Are people seriously saying this look realistic? Its a shade away from looking like the zootopia bunny.

>>83942411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGNvDVKOxCk
>this looks good

lmao

>those shit physics when the massive tree falls as if its made of styrofoam

>>83945912
not being able to separate CGI from real faces is a form of faceblindness, a symptom of autism

>>83939849
wrong

>>83939381
High-end CGI is amazing these days, but the decade the industry got poo-in-loo'd and riced hard. There are still a few studios in North American doing great work, but you don't notice it because it's usually just background stuff and atmosphere and de-aging Tom Cruise

>>83946296
this right here
THIS is the video that BTFOs practicalfags who think practical is the way to go 100 percent of the time. CGI can easily surpass practical, but like any tool it must be used effectively to illicit satisfying results

>>83946296

too bad his movies are shit

>>83939450
I actually thought they used a suit for Godzilla in Resurgance

>>83939783
lel

I always feel Nighy doesn't get enough credit for why it looks good.

His facial movements are so overexaggerated, it becomes a lot easier to map the movements. Treating the role like a cartoon character set on stage makes every single tendon and muscle so much clearer for the techs working on it.

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>>83942940
Wait, Zodiac had cgi? Oh wow.

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>>83950250
fincher films are full of CGI, the house in gone girl was surrounded by green screen for most of the shots inside the house

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>>83950370
>>83950250

>>83947372
EVERYBOOOODY-YEAAAAHHH

>>83950412
Wait, the floor is reflecting greenscreen. Wouldnt that be a problem?

>>83939772
kek'd anon

>>83950520
Not for a jew vfx producer

>>83950520
Assuming they had the amount of light they wanted reflecting off the floor it would be piss easy to correct, if you had time you could probably do it with a mask and keyframes in resolve. Changing the colour of light bouncing off a floor to look like daylight is not very difficult

>>83939381
Because Pirates of the Caribbean sucks

>>83939450

Good praticals will literally never look bad though since it doesnt age

Good cgi will eventually look bad since one day we'll have CGI so good it'll look shit in comparison

>>83950899
You suck

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>>83939531
w-why was she so... seductive?

>>83939450
This person should die a slow and painful death

>>83939381
More women have been hired into the CGI industry and quality has suffered as a result.

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James Cameron's Avatar got CGI near perfect

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>>83951072
>ywn have a dick long enough for her to deep throat

>>83939381
I want to eat his face
It looks so yummy

>>83951072
this is my new waifu, no one claim her.

>>83951482
don't worry, nobody wants to

>>83948062
Ugh, literally PS2 game.
How could anyone say at that time this shit was good at ANY aspect is beyond me.

>>83940271
>Gollum (especially in The Hobbit holy fuck)
>King Kong (the character, not the whole movie, but I'll give the moments of shitty CGI a pass considering how much we see Kong)
>Dawn of the Planet of the Apekino (and by extension Rise and probably War)
>Star Trek '09 and Star Trek Beyond when it comes to locations rather than characters
>The Force Awakens and Rogue One (as bad as the deaged characters as well as Snoke looked, everything else was flawless)

>tfw we have movies from 11/12 years ago with fully computer generated characters that look 100% real (I remember people genuinely thought that Davy Jones was practical and enhanced by CG but it wasn't even mocap, they just used Bill Nighy as a stand-in and animated over him)
>tfw movies now have bigger budgets than those films but the CGI looks so much worse

fuck, even Revenge of the Sith had just a $110 million budget and that movie is basically Who Framed Roger Rabbit when it comes to the real life/cartoon ratio

>>83942280
The CGI renders of Tarkin and Leia in Rogue One look better.
This one just seems tasteless on Audrey Hepburn's behalf.
Peter Cushing's estate approved of CGI Tarkin in Rogue One, and Peter Cushing himself said that he would've wanted to be in another Star Wars movie, but he didn't because his character died in the very first movie he appeared in.
So they gave Tarkin another appearance in a live-action Star Wars movie.
Also, Carrie Fisher herself approved of CGI Leia in Rogue One, just a few days before she died.

Also, I never noticed they were CGI before people started saying that they are CGI.

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This isn't CGI.
This is a huge animatronic, and it looks amazing, especially in motion.

>>83939381
King Arthur and Mummy had better CGI than PotC

>>83955593
Wrong. In motion it looks like what it is, a big muppet.

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>>83943564
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA

>>83951126
LEAFED

>>83951072
>that obvious green screen

>>83945854
3>2>1>4>5
I don't see how 3 gets such a bad rep, it's pure kino. Literally the only criticisms I've seen either miss basic plot points or whine that it was too long.
5 was pure shit though, even compared to 4.

>>83958049
why is she kissing marvel's tummy?

>>83958965
3's end battle was wimpy as fuck

they should've had a huge battle between the Pirate and British fleets too

>>83939450
in order from worst looking cgi to best cgi
>bad cgi
>decent cgi
>good cgi
>great cgi

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>>83940580
>posting edited CW cgi screencaps

nice try DCuck

>>83958259
did you really feel the need to point this out, on attack of the clones of all movies?

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>>83959203

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>>83959233

>>83959203
>flash doesnt instantly vanish and every enemy is instantly (as far as the viewer is concerned) dead
dc can never get flash right what the fuck, the guy stuggles to fight someone with a gun that shoots ice

>>83959233
>>83959259
Jesus fucking christ, is this the kind of pathetic capeshit that's on TV?

>>83959203
>>83959233
>>83959259
holy fuck that's terrible

>>83959203
>>83959233
>>83959259

To be fair, that's not horrible for being a low budget TV series on the CW. It's certainly not great, but those AYYLMAOs looks about as good as any given zombie from the new Mummy movie. They'd probably look better if they had decided to set this scene anywhere other than in the middle of the day on a bright ass rooftop

>>83959529
I remember Fringe having pretty solid CGI, way better than this. Why have we gone backwards? Fringe was on FOX, do these guys just not have the money?

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>>83943564
To be fair this being a TV budget its pretty solid. I would have ate this shit up if i were younger. Imagine how shit this would have looked 7 years ago.

>>83959343
That's why its on /tv/

DCEU dodged a bullet there saying fucking no to the TV universe

>>83950520
all it would take would be like 5 seconds of masking

>>83942411
it was good because it felt GREAT to see those blue niggers get blown the fuck out

>>83942815
cool world should never have been made, it's responsible for too many of my fetishes

>>83959560
When did you ever see that much CGI in a single Fringe episode?

>>83959259
is that fucking Judge Dredd?

also why the fuck did they film this during the day? Jesus...even an amateur could film this at night and it would cover up some of the horrible CGI

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>>83939450

Where does chroma key fall under this scale?

>>83959786

It's like a massive brrrapppshart in reverse

>>83959724
Any episode with the Gen 2 shapeshifters. Althought I take your point about Fringe being more subtle with it.

>>83959203
>>83959233
>>83959259

Capeshit action tends to never be that great but the parts where they fight hordes of faceless mooks is probably the most boring application of special effects in existence.

>>83959859
please tell me this is fan made and not what passes for dragon ball animation these days

>>83959233
Corridor digital do better FX.

>>83960014
Oh wow, they combined Flash and Plastic Man in this show!

>>83959567
If only this was the worst of it.

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>>83939395
fpbp

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>>83960081

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>>83960256
it hurts

>>83945972
This is not the place to cry like a little fucking bitch about it though

>>83945451
Davy Jones and he's CGI is 50% of why it's my favorite PotC

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>>83960283

>>83942462
I'm glad you posted that image; is he CGI? He never looks quite real to me in motion, and the lighting is so fucked up I can never tell.

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District 9 has amazing cgi

>>83959567
>>83960256
>>83960376

Posting Clangserk is cheating.
You might as well be posting animation projects or direct to DVD shit.

>>83960404
That's CGI? Hot damn

>>83942280
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx9eDoS76LM
Olivia Soprano was better

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>>83951081
have you seen the new arthur movie
its shit but the effects on the bad guys cape are so good. theres no clip ican find but it looks amazing and i doubt practical effects could do anything like it. it was the only good part of the movie

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>>83959972

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Best special effects is when you don't know if it's cgi or puppets.

>>83960532
this literally looks like is from cut scene from a video game

>>83960556
is this a circumcision?

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>>83960556
wtf did I just watch?

>>83960592
i thought it looked really cool...

>>83942280

do you not think that chocolate adverts have multi-million budgets

and that budget is spread out over like a minute max whereas a movie has to last like two fucking hours

are you stupid or what

>>83942948
With the marvel stuff they had the actors themselves as the stand-ins, and Kurt Russell's part was mostly done practically since apparently the fucker doesn't age.

As for the Leia/Tarkin debate, Tarkin looks so much better because not only did they get a good stand-in that actually somewhat resembled/did a good impression of Cushing, but they also found a plaster mask of Cushing that was made not long after Star Wars and were able to scan it digitally. For Leia, no mask, couldn't use Fisher as a stand-in (since she put on enough weight to be a Hutt), and it wasn't a priority considering how much screen time she has, especially compared to Tarkin.

>>83960805

It is cool.
Mostly because Ritchie makes cheesy shit on purpose.

>>83960556
chris chan?

>>83939381

Im still waiting for the trilogy in 4K

>>83960556
Nice dick birthing.

>>83955566
>Also, (((Carrie Fisher))) herself approved of CGI Leia in Rogue One, just a few days before she died.
No wonder that she died than. Saw that shit and committed horicuru

>>83960556
>dat phimosis

>>83948062
Shit, everything about this look so fucking dated already.

>>83959560
Fox has bigger budgets than the fucking CW.

>>83939381
because it's not about tech anymore, it's about CGI desigers' effort and time

since around mid 2000s we had computers able to render photorealistic models, they got cheaper over time, the softwareb got new tools and shaders making the creation a bit easier but still, good CGI needs lots of talented people and talented people are expensive and hard to get

>>83942940
If I'm not wrong, the Coens also used a bunch of good CGI in some of their films.

>>83960014

This is so weird looking I like it.

>>83939772
Kek

>>83939381
i hope they bring bill back for pirates 6th as the normal pirate we saw a glimpse of him in the third flick, back to seek revenge on jack and will, maybe no more "fantasy" stuff and some more grounded pirate shit

Why make good stuff when you can just use slick social engineering to manipulate the faggots on reddit/youtube to like your dogshit show.

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>>83960556

>>83948062
Looks good to me, don't know why those two anons think otherwise. Oh well, opinions.

>>83939381
What New Nintendo 2DS XL game is it?

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>>83959859

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>>83960556

>>83960556
uncut dicks are truly disgusting

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Game engines look better then cgi from 1999

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>>83939667
Soap.

>>83942280
BLAME LAZY JEWS

>>83965566
it only took 20 years!

>>83948889
Then you need a pair of glasses, bro.

>>83946296
Holy shit, that's impressive.

>>83960014
Am I seeing pixels on those electricity effects?

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>>83960193

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>>83959859
Such a shame.
DBZ looked great for a kids show.

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>>83959203
hahahah holy fuck i can't stop laughing at how bad this is, do people actually watch this garbage? kill yourself if you do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3E5L2sOvNI

>video games running in real time now look better than CGI in movies.

WHAT WENT WRONG?

>>83951072
new mass effect animations shit as usual

>>83966094
gee i dunno hollywood hemeroging money and talent consistently for decades

>>83960376
>Vibrating fairy

>>83939667
The face needed to be a little wider, but I believe it's mostly the eyes. Even though it hasn't happened yet, the glossy, soul less eyes make it look like she has nothing to live for cause she realized all her coke supply on Alderan has been blown up

>>83966094
>from what we're "told" is Xbox hardware
>pre-alpha build

Don't worry, it'll get its downgrade, and then some.

>>83966122
Do Americans even watch movies anymore? Don't we pretty much just make movies for China now?

>>83942940
>the last Star Wars, the Revenge of the Jedi
Clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

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>1997
Still looks great.

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>>83960556
what the fuck am I watching?

>>83966201
CG has looked good since the mid 90s. Toy Story and Jurrassic Park were the turning point.

>>83939381
They make the cgi shitty and cartoony on purpose so it appeals to kids more. Think of how you'd obsess over the lightsaber scenes whenever watching star wars, same general idea.

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2011

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>>83966342
Whenever I obsessed over lightsaber duels, I kept noticing weird unnecessary movements and bad choreography. Kind of helped turn me into the critical asshole I am today.

I still want to see someone make a fan version where two people have a lightsaber duel using rapier-like movements, it would be pretty great but nobody seems to have tried it.

>>83966319
Neither have aged as well as Starship Troopers though.
Jurassic only really works when it's a practical effects shot or a subtle combination of the two, and I was in the minority that didn't see what the big deal was with Toy Story back in the day, the first Pixar film to really impress me was WALL·E.

>>83948062
I've always thought that the reason why the cgi in Avatar worked was cause he mostly kept the live actors with the live actors and the cgi with other cgi. In the scenes where he would mix actors with cgi, it looked bad

Almost every big budget movie has cgi, has been for years. Brokeback Mountain had cgi.

>>83943000
to be honest, young RDJ was supposed to look cartoonish, since it wasn't an actual flashback

>>83966153
dont worry pc gamer here.

390x and i5 wont bottleneck it... right ?

>>83966409
because it actually looks like shit. Even sport fencing is garbage to watch, and that encourages people to make suicidal actions to score points.

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>>83939381
CGI peaked with Life of Pi.

After that, they stopped giving it the extra care. Now the do it fast and cheap.

Watch the documentary "After Pi"

>>83960193
Why did the army do that? did they want her to get captured?

>>83939395
This tbqhf

There are autists in this thread who believe that CGI got worse over time when that isn't even remotely true. What is true is that really good CGI takes more money and time so companies do passable work on the cheap to save money. But think about that, even passable CGI looks okay.

>>83940580
The new Justice League movie looks great.

Best CGI is when you dont realize it's fake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvwS_E91fZA

>>83959233
>that terribly keyframed run cycle of that one ayylmao
Like he has a shit up his ass.

>>83939531
I wanted to throat fuck her so bad. Still do

>>83942280
abit too cartoony bambi eyes

>>83966770
>Even sport fencing is garbage to watch, and that encourages people to make suicidal actions to score points.
Sport fencer here. The games are really exciting to watch, they are just quick and I have no fucking clue where you got that fencers do "suicidal actions" to score points, that's wrong. Most of that fancy shit would be an illegal move.

Stop getting your info from movies.

>>83966083
This desu, I know fully grown men who watch this shit every week. Why?

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>>83939947
Audrey 2 is very impressive as a practical effect, but it still looks silly and not real.

I'm the anon who wrote this >>83939450 checking in again.

LOL this post made so many people extremely bootyblasted.

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>>83939947
>>83943445
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>>83951081
Hey rectally ravaged anons, please see this post:
>>83942940

>Great CGI is so good you don't even know it's fake.

That post is already blowing people's minds who thought all those city shots were real. You realize that every movie does this now? CG doesn't just mean models. It means digital compositing and rotoscoping as well. None of this would be possible without software.

>>83954298
blame Hollywood exploiting the VFX industry to maximize profits and outsource the work to Pajeets

>>83966793
i don't blame them. they went bankrupt, but won an Oscar. when they tried to bring attention to their issue during the speech the academy told them to GTFO.

>>83960447
are you serious?

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>>83959233
>guy who is supposed to be a master archer doesnt even drawn the bow correctly

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>>83940271
>Jurassic Park
>best CGI

>>83960256
>>83960376
Why couldn't they just traditional animation?
Did they really have to cut cost that much?

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>>83948564
>he prefers CGI

>>83969714
Bad CGI is bad. Literally no one denies this.

>>83968114
m80, if they used a divided screen it was just to avoid you focusing all your attention on that.

>>83939395
Well, yeah.

>good CGI is CGI good enough to almost pass as something real according to our brain's understanding of what looks real
>our brain's understanding of what looks real never changes
>a movie never changes (unless you're George Lucas)

Ergo, it will always look good. The only way it would look less good is if someone were to go over the raw footage again adding even more detail and realism, such that the original looks worse by way of comparison.

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>>83960193
>trigger discipline

>>83959058
>they should've had a huge battle between the Pirate and British fleets too
Everyone says that, but if they did that instead of the maelstrom battle, it would've just been a clusterfuck of random pirate ships fighting random British ships. With the maelstrom battle, they kept the fight personal between the main characters while still keeping the armada as a threat yet to come.
Not to mention it would be stupid as fuck for Beckett to go all in with his fleet. The armada was there as backup, the Dutchman was his real weapon.

>>83967842
Cgi has become like dubs in an anime. Most dubs are bad, so people who can't form opinions have taken the stance that all dubs are bad.

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>>83959203
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>>83959259
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>83971480
Really made me think.

>>83942940
damn i was wondering how they did that overhead 90 degree turn shot

>>83960532
saw it this week, amazing cgi and the rest of the effects were nice too
fights were badly choreographed tho

>>83969714
>he needs a binary scale of things to hate or love
How can you people even function?

>>83939408
Wrong, the infamous one-eyed Arnold shot from the first terminator looks worse than the cgi uses of terminator 2.

>>83942280
That looks like a video game. Even the old dude from Rogue One looks more real.

>>83947542
Yeah, if the movie was filme in the 80's.

>>83939783
It's actually what happened. Not a single piece of clothing or any prop on him or his men exists. They all just wore those these MoCap pajamas on set. Even the swords are pure CGI. It's rather great.

>>83972174
You really think videogames look that good? I must be playing some godawful shit then, which ones look as good as this?

>>83939981
It's basically this:
>Part of the ship, part of the crew
>The Dutchman must have a captain
To elaborate:
Jones got stood up by Calypso after ten years of ferrying the dead at sea to the afterlife, so he became pouty and didn't do his job anymore. As a result, he and his crew were cursed with gradual fishification, with some of the oldest serving members apart from Jones losing their consciousness and fusing with the ship.
Will was more than willing to serve as the ferrymen, so everyone was debarnacled and it wasn't retconned as an inescapable curse until the most recent movie.

>thread still up after 24 hours

This place is dead.

>>83972351
Any videogame CGI past 2007 looks as good as that. You might be confusing what I meant with in engine animation, though.

>>83940255
It's perfectly in character, though.
Having his heart near him gives him feelings, that's why he hates it and tore it out in the first place.
Threatening the heart is also the only thing he fears, so he'll reluctantly comply to anything until he can find a way to dispose of his captors.

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>>83972533
>Any videogame CGI past 2007 looks as good as that
Dude what. the everloving fuck. are you smoking. Are you seriously telling me the Audrey Hepburn commercial looks like this???

>>83972763
that looks great until the silly muppet comes out.

>>83966706
You got some sauce on this or did you just make that up yourself?

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>>83942280
Kek, the rest of it looks great, but this part is hilarious.

>>83967334
You probably think it's exciting to watch because its your sport and you understand it.
The average person doesn't enjoy
>setting up
>making one quick thrust
>scoring a point
>setting up again
all in like two seconds

Muh over choreographed Star Wars duels are more exciting and entertaining to 99% of people

>>83951482
I claim her now thus making you a fucking KEK.
Get fucked.

>>83971453
Can you explain to me why the literal armada of British ships just decided to run away after their Commander went crazy and let himself get blown up? Do they not have a chain of command? Also why did the commodore give up in the first place? He could've easily done heavy damage to both ships attacking him and gotten out of that encounter alive but decides not to for reasons I've never been about to figure out

>>83951126
I don't understand how anyone can say this is CGI near perfect when that scene looks so incredibly unnatural and awkward.

>>83973318
>he thinks a match is one quick thrust.
What a juvenile underage you must be. Watch Olympic-style matches and tell me you are bored. That's what I do.
>watching them set up is le boring
All sports have a degree of pre-work setup.

>>83973388
>he tried to write cuck

>>83939381
They realised they don't have to spend a shit tonne because people will watch anyway

>>83973609
Explain in detail what about it looks awkward. I'm not memeing, I don't have a single problem with this scene

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>>83942392
i agree

>>83973764
Looks like a little bit more polished scene from Dinousar.

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>>83974073
mmm, yes. A bit more polished. Mhmm. Yep.

>>83973418
See my previous post, the EITC's entire plan hinged on the Dutchman. It's literally an immortal ship, they wouldn't be able to sink it if they had 500 armadas. The only reasons the Pearl even had a chance against it are Calipso's maelstrom and Jack/Will stabbing the heart.

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Daily reminder

>>83975488
People don't seem to understand that we have made exponential strides in technology over the years. The leaps we have made in 5 years alone is incredible.

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>>83975488
>Return of the King 4 years later

>>83945854
The objectively best POTC ranking

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>>83975488
>1999

>>83942280
It's pretty good but I still cringed every time this aired.

>>83973764
hair looks stiff, water looks wrong when moving on skin, hair doesnt effect water droplets on arm, overall its quite clunky

>>83967842
It was more your idea that CGI can end up being superior than all practical solutions.

Sure, doing a CGI city, where you base the CGI shots on real footage, images etc. But this is more a composition. You put in as much real life practical elements, to help the computer to simulate a scene. The more practical elements you feed a computer, the more real your shots will become.

Therefore, doing CGI of real animals, normal cities, etc. is easy and usually turn out great since there are so many references to look at.

So where is the place CGI fail? That happens when they need to do fantasy elements, where it's harder to get references or getting enough references will take a long time! The Hobbit is a prime example. Gollum looks great, but the technology behind him have been developed for years. His model, uses the real facial features of Andy Serkis, his animation is motion captured from Andy again, and in the Hobbit, they used a real set in the scenes with Gollum so they could use real light as a reference for the CGI on Gollum. As you see, the reason Gollum looks great is because the CGI stands on a heavy foundation of practical information.
Things that are impossible to simulate if you had no references (Or use too much time and money).
Therefore, the large amount of bad CGI in The Hobbit comes from that fantasy is hard to simulate, they didn't have the time for all of it, lacked crucial real life elements to reference etc.

Then you have psychology. If actors are in a green screen room, do you think they will preform their best? Or do you think if the actors are in a great set or location, in a great costume acting with other people, they will do far better? Many good scenes comes from the actors just improvising with what they are given on set. They come from many people working together on a location, adjusting each other, improvising etc.

I think it's out right retarded to say that CGI beats practical. It's nothing without the practical.

>>83939450
Unless it's blood. Squibs or GTFO.

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>>83960556

>>83976382
Compositing is CGI. CGI stands for computer generated imagery. The compositing of practical elements onto others is computer generated imagery.

>>83939381
I feel like watching a PoTC film and haven't seen any of them for at least 5+ years

What's the best one to watch in terms of the pirate atmosphere?

>>83948062
Not that I necessarily disagree with you, but you can't post a low res video to demonstrate that the effects are bad. That's not what the movie actually looks like. I hope you're trolling, because if not, you're a literal retard.

I know this is a CGI thread, but is anybody else hyped by the post-credit scene of Pirates5? I'd love another sequel with Bill Nighy's Davy Jones as the villain, though I have no idea how that'd work with the lore. But fuck it, it's PotC.

>>83976053
Lucas should've made the prequels at least a decade later than he did

>>83978821
no

>>83979035
I love them all, but the first one has the best pirate atmosphere I think. After that there's just too much going on with the plot. Curse of the Black Pearl is a good old swashbuckling pirate film.

>>83979082
Wait, there was a post-credit scene ?
I had no idea.

>>83979130
You mean during the Clone Wars?

>>83959859
SOO-PAR-SAY-A-JIN??

>>83959859
>>83964984
Damn Pooh's power level really shot up after training with Piglett on Christopher Robin's planet.

>>83968075
are YOU serious?

>>83979350
Every single Pirates film has had a post-credit scene.
At the end of PotC5 we see Will and Elisabeth sleeping in their bed when someone approaches them silently, and we see a slimy claw for a hand. Will suddenly wakes up and sees nobody there, so he thinks it's just a nightmare he had. As he goes back to sleep, the camera pans down and we see a load of barnacles underneath their bed. I'm not even kidding. It sounds horrible on paper, but I liked it. Just a hint of Davy Jones returning if the film does well enough to get another sequel.

>>83972121
they didn't do a cgi eye removal in Terminator 2. they did liquid effects shit that looked as it good as it did because it didn't require texturing.

Had they tried to do a cgi eye removal in 1992 it would have looked like sloppy dogshit and it would have looked worse than Terminator 1.

>>83979130
Lucas shouldn't have directed the prequels.

Also, the only reason he made them when he did was that he was competing to have ILM become the industry standard in the CGI revolution. He wasn't trying to make good movies, it was all an industry facing advertisement.

>>83979897
It literally makes no sense for him to resurrect. Will is the Dutchman, right? Davy Jones was legit murdered right?

None of that makes any fucking sense

>>83979995
Gonna need to source, because that makes no sense to be the only reason.

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>>83960556

>>83980039
I agree. But why put the scene in anyway? It's obviously there to hype up a Davy Jones return if the film does well enough to get a sequel. PotC basically has magic in it anyway, there's all sorts of implausible ways for Davy Jones to return.

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>>83973388
>KEK

>>83980277
Maybe they are alluding to Will becoming like Davy, it could have been symbolic and not literal.

/tv/ can be pretty good when it wants to be

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>>83980097
Well yeah he wanted to sell toys and renew licenses on stuff and "worldbuild" the franchise as well.

But mostly he was competing with Jim Cameron.
He spent the 90's pumping up ILM and he had already rereleased the OT as an industry facing ad (as well as attempt to boost the box office records of the franchise because of Cameron). Cameron made Titanic to be the "industry standard" for the future of the possibilities of CGI. Lucas set up the PT to compete. The difference is that Cameron is a production geek genius and Lucas is a hack suit.

Plus he was getting old and he eaten a lot of shit over the years for everything that wasn't Star Wars.

But yeah he spent the 90's trying to get ILM to the point where it had a strong foothold in cgi, using the OT as a practice bench, and production started on TPH when he was confident that he would be innovating the industry.