/who/ - Doctor Who General

Oxygen>Extremis>Thin Ice>The Pilot>Smile>Pyramid at the End of the World>Lie of the Land>Knock Knock

(Haven't got around to watching Empress of Mars yet.)

>>83894224
Series 12 is my favorite series of neo-classic /who/ The show has been shit since the hiatus of 2025-26

>>83894224
I miss Cloister ;_;
At least he got to see the 65th anniversary...
RIP in peace

>42 minutes ago
>last reply
Is this death?

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>>83895400
It's 2 in the morning

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>>83895430
Naht for me

>>83895400
there are only 4 people still using 4chan in 2030

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ANTI-PLASTIC

>>83895800
Anti-Plastic?

Dead show, dead thread

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>>83896280
b-b-but racial diversity

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who here getting primeval vibes from this weeks episode?

Would watching Broadchurch give you a good feeling for how doctor who will be under Chibnall as showrunner?

>>83896328
>the black cunt was the only random guy to get any backstory
What did they mean by this?

>>83896522
who knows, broadchurch is a masterpeice compared to what he wrote for DW. i loved broadchurch so i am hopeful that he can do DW successfully

>>83896563
unknowingly supporting the end of the western civilization

>>83896329
you're the only person to ever watch that

>>83896751
That is true. I forgot that ever existed

>>83896751
>>83896779
:(

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>>83896902
Sorry for snapping

>>83897058
someone explain what this person did wrong
i don't get it

Whats the big amazing Big Finish announcment this Friday going to be?

You want someody to satisfy you in and out of the bedroom dont you ;)))))))))))))))))))))))

>>83897116
fuck off creep

>>83897143
wow this answers nothing

>>83897164
Hi Adam. Shouldn't you be stalking the set to get a blurry image of David Bradley right now?

>>83897189
xd wow dude, really funny
can someone just give me a fucking answer

>>83897198
the answer is that you're obviously a fucking creep for not being able to recognise creepy behaviour yourself

fuck offerino

>>83897116
When a girl tells you in no uncertain terms that she'll never be in a relationship with you, you should take the hint and move on. Or at least pretend to. Really anything is better than saying "NO YOU JUST DON'T REALIZE I CAN PROVE THAT WE'RE PERFECT FOR EACH OTHER." It's like being a door to door salesman who keeps ringing the doorbell even after the door's been slammed in your face.

>>83897231
the creepy behaviour is continually reposting some nobody's private messages

>>83897235
thanks

Holy shit Broadchurch is so good. I hope Chibnall gives doctor who the same treatment

>>83897285
it's creepy to out somebody for sexual harassment? are you sure you're not adam?

>>83897357
it's creepy to constantly post private shit when you're neither of the parties involved

Doctor Who is actually dogshit and if you watch it you're probably gay.

>>83897384
>probably

>>83894294
>is the Valeyard ever gonna appear in Nu-who? Or is he just gonna be some off screen kinda thing for some spin off like in some novel or something?
Wasn't he in some relatively recent audio drama?
>Apparently he should be appearing eventually, as the Doctor is in his 12th(not counting war doctor) incarnation, so that means eventually he should appear, as he appears in between the 12th and 13th incarnations....
No, he is between Doctor's 12th and final incarnations, nothing says final is supposed to be 13th.
The Valeyard was named dropped in The Name of the Doctor, but that was more fanservice than anything.

>>83897402
Some of them just have really, really fat girlfriends who smell like rotten ham. I've seen it.

>>83897380
>private
it was publicly posted on twitter so that people know adam is predatory and to hopefully get him to stop harassing the girl. spreading it is the whole point

I don't expect you to understand, considering you had to have somebody explain to you that relationships require mutual consent

>>83897058
"One half I have already done, the other half I can do"

I'm guessing 'satisfy you in the bedroom' doesn't fall under either of those categories...

SERIES 3 BEST MUSIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7C0mGSPTnE

>>83897519
Do you think Adam has a big cock? How else would he have the nerve to make such a claim when he's so unattractive? Or does he just not realize how fat and weird looking he is?

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>>83897402
It seems like i am the only straight person on /who/

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>>83898040
leave, straightie

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I am the last of the /who/lords

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Are we supposed to think River is dead? Isn't she just in a digital world and can be easily brought back like literally everyone who died in the library was?

>>83898359
If that was the case, why would the Doctor have left her there?

We have already seen post-Library River in NotD though, so it's pretty meaningless. Still, Husbands was a good ending.

>>83898359
Because all the people in the library were saved when the Library detected the shadow shit or whatever. The people that died by the shadow things are dead, a bit of their consciousness was saved by the comms equipment which was then transferred to digital.

>>83898495
But they were all brought back, including Donna. There was only one chick who got damaged in the transfer. Based on what we've seen, nothing stands in the way of bringing her back.
>>83898409
>If that was the case, why would the Doctor have left her there?
I don't know, you try spending 24 years with the one person.

>>83898562
Don't you remember all the other saved digitals/friends/whatever? Watch the episode again

>>83894406
But Oxygen didn't make any sense.

>>83898736
can u expand on that???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJNdCFptI6k

is this canon?

>>83898769
>capitalism ended forever in the 50th century

>>83898769
The key premise of the episode (Oxygen is a scarce commodity) was not elaborated upon enough which made it unclear what capitalist practice do suits getting software update that kills people is supposed to criticise (Was it a metaphor for Windows 10?)

Is oxygen scarce by nature? If so, why did company vented it and how will not-capitalism fix the scarcity?
Is company holding oxygen monopoly and thus selling it overprices? Then why are they so upset over wasting commodity that doesn't actually have this high Activity-based costing.
Is another company selling them overpriced oxygen by holding artificial monopoly? That would make it a good libertarian episode, was this what they were going for?

Either way, if miners no longer earn the oxygen, why not just stop supplying it to them?

>>83896563
>>83896328

I was really thinking about how weird it was that he got a backstory. They usually don't give backstories to those who are gonna die extremely soon, so I seriously thought this dude was gonna somehow save the day or something.

Instead, he gets BOXED like the rest of his mates. So I'm just like, what was the point? He doesn't even live long enough to warrant a backstory.

>>83899113
You sympathise more with characters who die if you know what their future ambitions were
If it's just some random red shirt then nobody cares, but if they had ambitions you can think "oh fuck they didn't get to do that thing they wanted to that's sad"

It's why the '2 days to retirement' meme is a thing

>>83899113
Never thought I'd see someone complain about side characters having some depth. But then again, what can you expect from a cletus

>>83899195
don't abuse the 'cletus' term
that anon didn't even mention the fact the character was black. There's literally nothing racial let alone racist in that post

>>83899253
calm down, cletus

>>83899171
Exactly. The second he started talking about his life back home I knew he was going to get killed.
What was funny to me was how quickly it all happened. They didn't even try to make it seem like a natural part of the story like you usually would, his backstory was introduced in the same scene that he died in

>>83899373
that's gatiss for you

>>83899384
I actually quite like Gatiss, but that definitely felt like something that was hastily written in at the last second

Do the 7th Doctor PDAs relate at all to the VNAs? or are they all just random stories that take place between episodes.

>>83897565
Can you imagine his cum face. Its nightmare fuel

>>83897565
>How else would he have the nerve to make such a claim when he's so unattractive?
autism, literally

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>on business trip so my PSVue is restricting what i can watch cus im not home

>Yesmovies has simultaneously gone to shit, no new who episode in the 4 days since it aired

Where the fuck can I watch this m8s. I'm paying 60 dollars a month just so playstation can tell me no i cant watch my shows cus i have to work.

I stopped watching this after SJWs in frozen victorian england episode. Did it get any better?

>Adam Orford
Is this the guy that was stalking Jenna everywhere?

>>83900563
sure is, and anyone that looks like her too

>>83900561
for two episodes

>>83900655
3*

>>83900688
Extremis and Ice Warrior Queen.
what's your third?

>>83900699
Oh I thought you were going chronologically
I was taking pyramid as the point it went to shit, meaning there were 3 more episodes until that point
But even that being said, I'd add oxygen to your list

>>83896522
Doubt it, considering Broadchurch is a whodunnit police drama and Doctor Who is an episodic scifi/fantasy. It may give an insight into how he writes characters but that's probably about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m67JKTUWHU

DWE is closing, really does feel like the end of an era

>>83900758
>implying chibbers isn't going to turn it into a series long whodunnit

Threadly reminder that Madam Orford is a prematurely balding creep that texts little girls, physically stalks Peter Capaldi along with anyone else he can on the Doctor Who production and is in general a whinging spineless manchild that should be mocked mercilessly

13th doctor news on 24th June

>>83900805
Despite it saying the DW Experience in the title, some people in the comments section actually think the show is ending

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>>83900881

I've decided to skip out on work for my birthday today. Which comfy stories should I watch this morning?

>>83900945
problem adam?

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>>83900992

>>83901004
>posts a picture of a mouse looking guilty
what did he mean by this?

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>>83901033

>>83901070
Talk about Doctor Who you fucking nerd

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>>83901075

>>83900087
The latter, though the Tucker/Perry ones have their own little arc going on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFwHDymjbns

>>83901286
I love that the clip they chose was just Capaldi staring into the middle distance looking pissed.

>>83901286
Holy crap, I used to watch Underwood on CBBC/CITV

DC be ripping off series ten plots

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/06/14/separated-birth-doctor-action-comics-dark-days-forge-spoilers/

>>83901286
>Has there been a female Doctor Who?
It's funny how direhard fans act like a female Doctor would completely kill the show and everybody would hate it, yet normies don't even know it hasn't happened already. Not just any normies either, but ones who actually work in the entertainment business.

>>83901487
Sometimes I forget that most normies watching the show can't even name most of the old actors. They don't even know that Paul McGann played the 8th Doctor.

>>83901286
I like Miranda, but not as the doctor, please no.

>>83901516
They know Tom, the modern Doctors, then the rest are just a blur of gurns and poor fashion choices.

>>83901487
What a stupid thought in general to have

Guys, I just found my Playstation Portable from 2009. Little Big Planet, Patapon 1-3, MGS Peace Walker. I miss these games.

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>>83902300

>>83900881
>""""""""""little"""""""""" girls

>>83902318
no one fucking cares

>>83894406
>Thin Ice
>Anywhere else but last

>>83902857
It's a good episode, cletus.

OFFICIAL S10 POWER RAKINGS

The Pilot
Oxygen
Extremis
Smile
Empress of Mars
Knock Knock
Thin Ice
Pyramid at the End of the World
---power gap---
No episode for a week
Literal shit for 45 minutes
---power gap---
Lie of the Land

>>83902913
>Villain is just some dickhead with zero personality beyond "I'm racist lmao"
>Who gets punched by the Doctor just for being racist - name one other time the Doctor has punched someone in all of nu-who
>Random kid dies not even five minutes after we see him and the audience is supposed to give a fuck
>le "doctor kills peeple!!!!!!!" dialogue that's been done over a dozen times now and was executed better all those other times
>Plot partially ripped off from Beast Below
>Plot completely ripped off from that one Torchwood episode with the alien meat conspiracy (which actually did it fucking well)
>The infamous whitewashing line
Go ahead. Give me one reason why this isn't the worst episode in the whole series. Knock Knock is close second because it was intriguing all the way up to the disappointing reveal.

>>83903250
>>Plot completely ripped off from that one Torchwood episode with the alien meat conspiracy (which actually did it fucking well)
Which episode was this i've never watched all of torchwood

>>83903293
Meat, terrible episode....just like Thin Ice :^)

>>83903293
Meat (s2e4)

>>83903250
Literally didn't read any of your post. Sorry you wasted the last of your threadly two (2) allocated boardie posts. If you want to continue discussing the episode, wait until next thread.

>>83903459
Embarrassing

>>83903459
humiliating

>>83903490
>>83903498
I know. Hopefully they're more economic with their limited posts next time.

Doctor Who? More like Doctor Poo.

>>83902949
Kind of accurate. Would've swapped Empress and Smile tho.

Why is everyone ranking Oxygen so high? It's a very weak episode.

Are you all commies or something?

>>83904022
die capitalist

>>83904022
I agree, people overrate it for two reasons
1) it's Mathieson so he can't write bad episode
2) people were really desperate for outstanding episode

It's really meh with weak characters, but with good directing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ7uHzZYREo

this needs to be adapted into a proper episode.

doctor poo

doctor what?

10 days to go

Who here hyped for /simmkino/?

>>83897123
I would ass fuck her till it prolapsed. If you catch my underlying message.

Can't believe there are people who actually like the Whovian panel show. It doesn't even have Andrew Hansen on there.

>>83905088
Gomez is better.

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Make the favor to gather your unguided children to the general, please.

>>83905031

>>83905309
They're not ours. Keep your boardies.

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>>83905275

>>83887918
Yeah it does, which is why I was confused. He wants to know who sent him the letter telling him to come to Nevada but they don't tell him. He gets angry and river tells him just to trust her. He replies by asking why he would trust someone he doesn't know and asks who she is. Amy then asks him to trust her instead.

In the next episode river kisses him and the doctor is surprised as they've never kissed before, repeating again that she's a stranger to him. river is sad because this means it's the last time she meets him even though a. It's not and b. She learnt all this the previous episode

kek who was this?
https://twitter.com/GeorgeBaker26/status/874939961438613504

>>83905760
fuck me... doctor who fans really are autistic

>>83905760
hahahahahaha what the fuck

>>83905665
The Doctor first meets River in his 10th incarnation. 11 had definitely met her before, just didn't know her very well.

>>83905760
Unless Ianto's shrine is some sort of message board for the #dwsr nerds, I highly doubt it wasn't him that put it there himself.

>>83905850
It's a shrine dedicated to a character who died a decade ago or so.

What else could it be?

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>>83905573

>>83905850
It was Adam. The guy is completly fucking batshit and now that everyone knows he's not only a crazy stalker but a sexual predator trying to blackmail people he's getting super pissed and mad at everyone on twitter.

>>83905665
The only times he met her before was the Library, presumably Picnic at Asgard (as 10, since she clearly met 10 before), the Byzantium and the Pandorica.
At the time of early S6, the Doctor still didn't really KNOW her

>>83905760
>iantos shrine
H-his actor died, right?

>>83905665
He does recognize her though, he doesn't immediately say "who the fuck are you and why did you shoot my hat" when she first appears in that episode
He sort of knows River but she is still a mystery to him which is why he doesn't trust her

>Trust you? Sure. But, first of all, Doctor Song, just one thing. Who are you? You're someone from my future. Getting that. But who? Okay. Why are you in prison? Who did you kill, hmm? Now, I love a bad girl, me, but trust you? Seriously.
This is the Doctor not trusting someone he's met a few times with a shady background, not the Doctor meeting someone for the first time

>>83905970
>not listening to Big Finish
She and 8 are pretty tight together m8.

>>83906000
>H-his actor died, right?
nope

>>83906020
I assume she's gonna wipe his memory tho, rite? I don't know how that's working

>>83902949
>pilot that high
the only redeeming feature was heather

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>>83906020
>listening to fan fiction

>>83906062
>watching fanfiction
new who is fanfiction bro

>>83906158
next saturday's ep isn't

>>83906191
I cant believe actual dr who is finally coming back after all this time lmao

>>83898359
>member of an ancient race of hyper-intelligent beings with magical technology
>can travel throughout all of time and space
>doesn't have a colour photo of his granddaughter

I bet you like Hell Bent

>>83906509
I dont, why would you think that?

Just rewatched Husbands of River Song.
It's pretty good and sweet, and especially the ending.
Also Capaldi has a lot more chemistry with Kingston than Smith.

>>83906509
>not liking objectively the best final
>muh gallifrey
pleb spotted

>>83898991
They vented it because it was outside oxygen and the company is holding a monopoly on it.

OFFICIAL SERIES 10 POWER RANKINGS

GOD TIER
World Enough and Time
Extremis
Oxygen
Capaldi's Last Episode

Great Tier
The Pilot
Thin Ice
Empress Of Mars
Eaters Of Light
The Doctor Falls

Good Tier
Smile
Knock Knock
The Pyramid At The End Of The World

Okay Tier
Lie Of The Land

Which era is more comfy 1 or 5?

>>83907040
>Thin Ice
>great
Shit taste

>>83907086
4.

>>83907106
nice bait

Just sat down and read some shit trips, /who/. Are we doing these again? I quite like some of the ones that took it slightly seriously.

>>83906924
So why were they so mad that their works waste oxygen that isn't actually this expensive to produce.

>>83907040
If you move Pyramid and Lie of the Land both down a tier I'd agree
Ignoring the ones that haven't aired of course

>>83907279
Which one took it slightly serious?

>>83896328
Thank fuck all that stopped in 2018 when all the world's niggers died.

Post your predictions for the finale my dudes

>>83907577
It will suck, but probably less so than The End of Time.

>>83907522
The foreward, the seventh doctor one, the coffee one, snoozefest... Most of the ones with pictures made up actually.

>>83907577
Peter Capaldi is going to have the worst run by far since 6 which isn't too bad but is disappointing.

>>83907577
Cibbers will be underused, it will be okay at best

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>>83907603
>less so than the end of time

>>83907577
The Doctor Falls will be a decent enough episode on its own but a disappointing follow up to World Enough and Time

>>83905814
s6e1:
Rory: Where are we going?
The Doctor: Home. Well you two are. Off you pop and make babies. And you, Doctor Song, back to prison. And me, I’m late for a bi-plane lesson in 1911. Or it could be knitting. Knitting or bi-planes, one or the other. {he sits down, clearly bothered} What? A mysterious summons? You think I’m just going to go? Who sent those messages? I know you know. I can see it in your faces. Don’t play games with me. Don’t ever, ever think you’re capable of that.
River: You’re going to have to trust us this time.
The Doctor: Trust you. Sure. But first of all, Doctor Song, just one thing. Who are you? You’re someone from my future—getting that—but who? {silence}. Okay. Why are you in prison? Who did you kill? Hm? {silence} Now I love a bad girl, me. But trust you? Seriously?

did he forget that she told him his name or is that not important to him any more?

>>83907744
He did'nt know she killed a man when she whispered his name to him.

No early review for Eaters from DWTV, /who/, think they've been barred from early viewings cause they broke the embargo on Alpha Centauri?

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Goodnight sweet prince.

>>83908098
Reviews don't come til Thursday

>>83908770
DWTV normally does theirs on Tuesday.
Teasers on Thursday & Friday

>>83908098
>>83908770
>>83908855
Are we really so starved for things to talk about that we've started to anticipate reviews like anyone gives a bollock?

Okay so apart from this free ticket stuff, when are they actually gonna start selling tickets for this concert finale countdown thing?

>>83909048
They aren't. Unless you're special like George

>>83909079
They aren't?


So only 30 people are invited to come?

Doctor Who? More like

>>83905930
Was it just me or was very cute when she nervously peeped out from behind the rotor in the last episode?

>>83909224
Dr. Who

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anyone got the face app pictures or can someone link me to the page on the wiki thanx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG0CguBxx1g

How did no one tell me about this??? This is hilarious. If you remove the music track from the series 3 finale, you get to hear John Simm singing, and it's the worst

>>83894224
where do you start

The next Doctor is female.
Gotta fill those diversity quotas.

>>83896328
Fuck that, I cheered when that future race mixer died.

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>>83909522
>she will never nervously pee behind YOUR rotor

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Is he right?

>>83906130

>>83910111
Sadly, yes.

>>83905930
Have we seen this yet? Was it cut? I was unironically looking forward to it

>>83910403
it's in the finale. and yeah, i'm looking forward to it too

>>83909845
Actually the next doctor is... George Lazenby

so its true, /who/ is kill

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>>83895844
AAANTI-PLASTIC

>>83910866
I had hoped the next Rassilon would be Pierce Brosnan

>>83905760
>Sorry, you are not authorized to see this status.
What was it?

What would you like to see happen in the finale?

>>83910111
What do you think?

adam orford is a nonce

8 isn't canon

Quick rundown on Orford.
I know he's some really fucking creepy guy that's a borderline paedo and stalks Jenna and Peter and anyone who works on who. Anything else I should know?

It seems like we finally ran out of things to discuss
I predict that when we're off season again /who/ will die for good until Christmas

>>83912227
harassing page3 girls possibly annoying /who/ for the past year

>>> " Overall, “The Eaters of Light” is an episode with a decent premise and some neat ideas, but doesn’t quite capitalise on them enough, and ends up fumbling in the dark. "
Shit confirmed
>>http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/series-10-the-eaters-of-light-advance-review-85357.htm

>>83912230
>ran out of things to discuss
>new doctor is being announced within 1-2 months
m8

>>83912334
>>>> " Overall, “The Eaters of Light” is an episode with a decent premise and some neat ideas, but doesn’t quite capitalise on them enough, and ends up fumbling in the dark. "

Pretty much like every single other episode of this series

>>83911875
8 is canon. NuWho isn't canon

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That was pretty neat in a grimdark sort of way.

>>83912334
You get the feeling DWTV really don't enjoy anything anymore

remember the days we thought series 10 will be peak moffat because he had 2 years to develop companion and new cool villains and plot decisions

Jack's real name is kinda cool.

Where can I download the new audiobooks?

I've never listened to one before, as I prefer to just read. Is it easy?

>>83912666
Kino started last week and is lasting through the rest of the season.

>>83912680
http://audiobookee.com/ has some. I don't think there's better torrent.

>>83912680
subscribers get more at www.bigfinish.com

>>83912700
I hope so, m8, I hope so. Too bad it's 4 last episodes.

>>83912666
This proofs that Moff is better under preasure

>>83912772
€5.00 has been deposited into your account.

Thank you for your service Panjeet.

>>83912826
There was also Extremis and Oxygen. The season is at least on par with series 5 in terms of episode to episode quality.

>>83912892
Couldn't disagree less, my friend, couldn't disagree less.

>>83912334
>There are some interesting and imaginative ideas at the episode’s core: the mythical nature of the setting, talking crows (yes, really), and a time travel plot device closer to Moffat territory. It equally shares some thematic ties with “Survival”: particularly themes of lost youth, and even the nature of the Doctor’s relationship with the Master is touched on.
This gives me some hope, I bet this one will be better that last week's

>>83912911
Oh shit I mean *more

>>83912892
>The season is at least on par with series 5 in terms of episode to episode quality.
What exactly are you implying here?

>>83912911
And you are?
I agree with him. Extremis and Oxygen are top notch. Fuck the pack mentality.

>>83912947
*this is not me. I didn't say that and mean less

What's up with side characters this season? I know it's hard to develop side characters in 40 minutes, but this year they just evaporated.

>>83912968
People seem to think of series 5 as peak Moffat. I'm saying series 10 is about as good if not better.

>>83912700
Calling the Emperess of Mars kino is far too much
it was just alright

>>83913070
Doctor Who being fun is fine.
People want deep and heavy dark shit all the time with this show. It's for kids, go away

>>83913017
Oh, well I disagree

http://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/daleks
Are you going to fund Victor Lewis Smith's Dalek documentary, /who/? Sounds pretty cool

>>83912987
Oxygen is overrated as fuck honestly
Mathieson as a whole is kind of overrated, he's just alright, not absolute-kino-maker.

Extremis is exciting at its own but I dislike a lot of parts of it: directing, numbers thing makes no sense, meh sitcom lines, this episode has no consequences whatsoever etc

>>83913122
>kids
I think you mean autistic homosexual pedophile muslim toddlers, moffat himself has said this is the target audience

>>83913159
>this episode has no consequences whatsoever
>complaining about this in Doctor Who

>>83913122
I'm just saying that is wasn't kino
Also what exactly was fun in Emperess apart from Aplha Centauri?

>>83913159
>this episode has no consequences whatsoever
Just like every Doctor Who episode ever

>>83913225
1) there were times once (when some homosexual man was in charge or when steven moffat tried with character developing) when this happened
2) this episode has no consequences not only within series, but also within this three-parter

>>83913159
>Oxygen is overrated as fuck honestly
Which episode of this series you think it's better?

>>83913196
leave cats out of this!

>>83913226
RISE MY ICE WARRIORS, RISEEEEEEE

>>83913263
Hartnell's era was full of consequences. Same with stuff like War Games, Earthshock, etc. When characters used to die, pre-Moffat, they generally stayed dead, etc.

>>83913277
It's not a three-parter.

>>83913308
>Hartnell's era was full of consequences
Not it's not, other than companion introductions/departures or something tacked onto the end of an episode to set up the next that has nothing to do with most of the preceding story.

>>83913298
The Pilot.
Empress of Mars if im being very-very-very generous to the plot simplicity.

Everything else is worse.

Look' I'm not saying that Oxygen is shit. It's alright. But for some reason people think it's best episode ever, when this kind of episode 6 years ago would be considered as an okay mid-series story with some cool aspects. Like 42 in series 3.

>>83913159
>Mathieson as a whole is kind of overrated, he's just alright, not absolute-kino-maker.
He used to make very well-composed episodes that align very well with what I think works best for Doctor Who. Until Oxygen, he fucked this one up.

>>83913369
>It's not a three-parter.
I don't give a fuck, either way simulations contributed nothing to the character developement, to the series motives, to capaldi's doctor etc.

>>83913152
The Daleks need to be silver and wobbly again

>>83907577
Cybermen will be stompy robots and defeated by Bill hooking up her brain to their network and making them explode with the power of her love for her imaginary mum

>>83913414
So what?

>>83913394
Both of his series 8 episodes were much better than Oxygen, I agree with that. Still, I don't think that they are god-tier or all-time classics, both Mummy and Flatline were quintessential nuwho adventurous episodes, which Capaldi's era really really lacked of.

whats your favrite monster \who/

mine is the darlicks

>>83913532
I don't know, I don't like it. I'm already used to consequences-type of storytelling early Moff and RTD had.
By the way, it's you who pointed out only this exact part of the list of things I didn't like about Extremis.

>>83913574
I always thought Doctor Who works best as mystery show. It's in many way resembles to me a police procedural. Doctor is an outsider who, along with his partner comes to a place where shit is happening to find out what and interacts with people affected, who will never be seen again.

So what made me enjoy Mummy so much was that it was structured like a mystery and Doctor won by figuring it out and what he figured out was complete bollocks of course, but it felt like it makes sense. Flatline was utilizing another thing I like - tricking enemy into their own undoing. The Girl Who Died to an extent had the same appeal to me.

Oxygen had the same potential as Mummy, but premise never came together.

>>83913369
>Not it's not, other than companion introductions/departures or something tacked onto the end of an episode to set up the next that has nothing to do with most of the preceding story.
Can you not comprehend consequences within stories? Also there are things that affect future stories, in lots of Who. Saying "lol dr who has never had consequences" is just complete BS.

Extremis was good on its own, and it definitely needed a follow-up to be justified, but it has no effect on the following episodes which is disappointing.

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>>83913748
>consequences within stories
So every episode of Doctor Who, including Extremis? Am I being baited?

>>83913414
>>83913532
The problem is that it was essentially part one of a Monk saga, so it needed to link in better. When you think of other 3 parters, like Utopia/SOD/LOTL, Utopia is mostly its own thing but ends with 10 minutes of properly setting something up for the next 2 episodes. Extremis set up literally nothing - the ending was just "The Doctor knows some Monks are coming." and thats it

>>83913665
I agree with this sentiment. I greatly enjoyed Under the Lake for the same reason, as it fits that reliable who formula - go to interesting new location, investigate what's going wrong/killing people, get to know supporting cast who inhabit this particular episode's location.

Of course, the solution to the problem needs to be satisfying, or the episode falls flat. Look at Knock Knock for example; follows the same formula and had a good buildup, but not only are space lice as an enemy boring as fuck but the solution is "ask the wood lady to stop absorbing people" and that's that. No real effort or consequence.

>>83913576
>\who/
Is this another parallel universe?

>>83913665
I agree. By the way, Mathieson's previous episodes had interesting characters who made impact on the story. Perkins, Rigsy, even Ashildr.
Oxygen never delivers on side characters, the only thing I can remember about Oxygen is Dah'Renn, who is blue. And he's also tired of racists. And his only line is about racists. So he exists literally just to throw this funny gag. Which, to be quite honest, is indeed funny, but Dah'Renn is still flat as a character.

>>83913576
The Slitherines

>>83913835
\who/ is the main timeline containing the /who/ and \who\ bottle universes

>>83913810
A lot of people assumed it would tie in heavily with part 3. That the twist would be the dystopia is all another simulation, and The Doctor wasn't just enabling the subjugation and murder of innocents for six months as a prank. I honestly think that would have been better than what we got, even if it would have been foreseeable

>>83913800
You've pretty much nailed it. As a standalone episode, it nearly comes together and works okay, but since it was there to essentially set up 2 more weeks of Monks, it needed to do more than it did. (Or the whole simulation idea needed to be revisited/brought in again, since Extremis served to set up that and that alone)

>>83905760
For those of you wondering what it was, seems like he deleted the tweet and put it back up.

https://twitter.com/GeorgeBaker26/status/874939961438613504

Hilarious desu. And almost certainly Adam's doing

>>83913850
They were the best part of that episode RTD did with J K Rowling, although the whole thing was GOAT.

>>83913817
Under the Flood really failed. It had a brilliant structure where it starts in the future and we see consequences before we go into past and find out the cause. But it heavily devoted itself to a worthless fakeout while relevant things were few and far apart.

>>83913850
haha yeah I like when they do
their smelly bum gas

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would they get away with a scene like this today?

>>83913920
yeah, that's why I only mentioned the first part. Before the Flood dropped the ball on what could have been a solid early-season adventure.

>>83913887
Agreed. It would've been a groan moment - oh, still inside a simulation, or inside another one - but it would've been better than what we had. Or, they could've done a twist on it: the world really is under Monk control, except for the Vault which they didn't know about and which was 'cut off' from the simulation - and then you have an episode whereby Missy comes into action to help more AND that way theres also a twist on it still being a a simulation.

>>83913665
are you a Kris Marshall fag by chance?

>>83913948
The person who wrote it is still head writer, so presumably yes.

>>83913948
if the genders were swapped it would be praised as high art

"is it an evil spirit?"
"worse - a white male"

>>83913887
>the twist would be the dystopia is all another simulation
BUT THAT'S LITERALLY THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED

>>83913992
wow, really made me think

>>83914036
I'm not saying it would be a goof twist, but at least narratively it would be a lot more cohesive than the clusterfuck we got

plus it removes that awkward implication of The Doctor contributing to people's deaths; it was virtual, they didn't really die

>>83913899
Adam Orford the nonce strikes again!

Been in contact with a source, they tell me the new Dr is being revealed on the 24th and is one of the following, but they won't say which:
Tom Ellis
Richard Ayoade
Kris Marshall
Tom Rosenthal

>>83914133
I feel like maybe they'd get retroactively undone, but Earth-based plots have gone too far.

Anyway, it was such a bad episode I don't even want to think about it.

>>83914036
You can make a good dream/simulation episode if it has impact on real world. Hard to do on Doctor Who though.

>>83914173
As much as I'd like it to be true it's almost certainly not Ellis.

I think it might have been better if Extremis actually featured the Monk dystopia, but with the same solution of The Doctor figuring out it's a simulation and warning the real Doctor. Then the following two episodes are about figuring out how to stop events from occurring as they did in the simulation

>>83913992
YAAAAS

>>83913992
If you had self awareness, maybe you'd think about how triggered you'd be if they actually said that, realize that lines like the one that was really in the episode are a lot more common than your strawman, and be less inclined to ridicule people who object to that sort of joke.

>>83914036
Really? I thought the doctor merely pretending to be evil was the worst.

>>83914230
If you had self awareness, you wouldn't be here :^)

>>83914223
Lie of the Land was really weak episode, but it could be more if Doctor had a good reason to pretend to be on Monks' side.

What if the entire actual plan from Monks was to corrupt Doctor through his new eyes? But they couldn't corrupt visual memory he got into his mind through his glasses? And he pretended to be corrupted until he actually could strike (Rather than randomly ram ships into harbours)

>>83913899
Unless he put it there for attention and pity

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>just realized they actually made the fucking queen of england black back in season five

how long has this brainwashing been going on

>>83914173
>listing the 4 most likely choices so you're pretty much guaranteed to be right

mmm fake spoilers

>>83914173
richard ayoade said he's not interested, he wants to direct more.

Kriss Marshall quit Death in Paradise to spend more time with his family... so not dr who

Tom Ellis has filming commitments...

so Tom Rosenthal confirmed?

>>83914334
>season 5
surprise surprise, the cletus is a casual. whomst'd've thought?

>>83914341
No its definitely one of these 4, Ellis and Ayoade are the least likely as their CV's show they have other commitments, so it's between Kris Marshall and Tom Rosenthal

>>83914133
>>83914239
I mean the fake regeneration scene with Bill was ass, but the episode makes clear that the whole six months of collaborating with the monks was to gradually win over the support of the guards and use them to overthrow the monks. How the monks were unable to fend off a small group of guards when they can take out airplanes and subs from miles away and why they had no guards of their own at their base are still open questions, but the Doctor wasn't just doing it for the lolz.

>>83914334
The brigadier phoned up a female prime minister when there hadn't ever been one at the time.... This goes all the way back, how have we been so blind!!!

Plus why did so many Seventh/Ace episodes randomly have a token black character who doesn't do anything? Just plays jazz, or serves the doctor tea, or plays the harmonica....

>>83914394
yes it probably is one of those 4. that's why he chose them for this particular fake spoilers meme

>>83914346
It's either Kris Marshall and Tom Rosenthal. Kris Marshall most likely. Tom Ellis was asked.

>>83914334
That was alright because it was the future. It when history is changed that it becomes cringe worthy

>>83894224
IVE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS

>>83914401
>UNIT stories are implied to take place a few years in the future
>Doctor Who predicted Margaret Thatcher

>>83914401
my issue is more to the point that it's supposed to be a dynasty right, kinda whitish, at least currently? i guess the kangz took over

>>83914361
>filthy tripfag
ugh

>>83914444
McCoy also talks about "the King" in Battlefield

WORLD ENOUGH AND TIME'S CLIFFHANGER OH MY FUCKING LORD SO MANY THINGS HAPPENING

>"and I'm afraid...this is going to hurt."

>>83914444
The brigadier is mates with Margaret Thatcher? Tory cunt.

>>83914401
>Plus why did so many Seventh/Ace episodes randomly have a token black character who doesn't do anything? Just plays jazz, or serves the doctor tea, or plays the harmonica....
You forgot the best one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gaznck2xW-g

>>83914469
>"and I'm afraid...this is going to hurt."
Simm does a primitive surgery to make Bill a mondasian cyberman confirmed??

>>83914173
>tom rosenthal
>unironically humoring the idea of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWc2Sewkbbg&t=2s
"bbc fwee"

why didn't the monks just undo giving The Doctor's sight back as a final fuck you?

>>83914495
I believe it was official business, not a personal call.

>>83914505
>You forgot the best one
How did I miss that one! That's fucking hilarious.

>>83914544
He's 2nd to Kris Marshall on the bookies list, strange considering he's basically an unknown - also he's been in Broadchurch

>>83914591
>also he's been in Broadchurch
Tom Rosenthal confirmed

>>83914591
I know, and the idea terrifies me. He's honestly a combination of David Tennants and Matt smiths lest likable qualities, with an annoying lisp and punchable face to boot.

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>>83914652
"STWAWBEWY BWOWN!!"

;)

>>83914495
>implying Alistair wouldn't be Scottish National

>Kris Marshall or Tom Rosenthal will be the next Doctor
>Meme actors

How do we all feel about this?

>>83914712
I was wrong. I stand corrected.

>>83914728
>>83914728
>>83914728

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>>83914677
Fred Figglehorn did not age well.

>>83914469
citation needed

>>83914784
:koolaid:

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