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So have been rewatching the Friday the 13th series and just finished

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So have been rewatching the Friday the 13th series and just finished "Jason takes Manhattan" and now I want to just talk about the series here with you guys.

So what do you think? Do you believe that there is something to Crystal Lake more than Jason? Perhaps it is the lake itself? or even the Necronomican
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What'd you think of Manhattan? Most underrated one imo, only 4 and 6 are better.
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Trying to shoehorn supernatural nonsense into the series nearly killed it off...which you'll see soon enough in next movie.

"Jason Goes to Hell" is the worst movie in the series, somehow even worse than the one after it which includes a trip to space and a mecha Jason.

Honestly, you could've stopped after 7 and missed very little.
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>>83864843
>>83864884

I want to say Manhattan was definitely the best of the post-death Jason, but only for the over the top cheesiness of it all. it kind of goes back and forth between that and 6 for the post death movies.
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>>83864884
Jason X is one of the better ones in the series if you have a sense of humor. Jason Goes to Hell is trash though.
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>>83865020
Most of the movies are good if you have a sense of humor, Jason X is just stupid and cheap looking. Looks like a scifi television movie.
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>>83864660
Final Chapter and Jason Lives are the best I think.

Manhattan had a lot of potential and it could have been great had Paramount not forced them to cut the budget and stay of the cruise ship instead of spending more time in NYC.

The Necronomicon is in Jason Goes to Hell. That movie is absurd but I enjoy watching it for how stupid it is.

Not a fan of Jason X at all. I find Parts 1-3 a bit mediocre - they just feel like mildly entertaining generic slasher movies. Parts 5 & 7 are ok for what they are.

Freddy vs Jason has its moments but is mediocre overall. The reboot/remake also has some good stuff but overall is pretty lousy too.
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>>83864660

Part 3 is my personal favorite, but overall I think 6 is the best.

9 is horrible though, worst of the series. Even 5 is better.
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Why did they make Jason look like shit when unmasked? I know he is a zombie by this point, but still...
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>>83865575

I think it had to do with him being under water for so long. I don't hate the look, but it's not one of the better ones.
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>>83864944
>best of the post-death Jason
So I assume you haven't seen Jason Lives?
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>>83865575
I haven't seen the movie in probably a decade but didn't he get acid in his face right before that?
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>>83864660
>being this autismo about shit flicks made only to seperate horny teens from their money

youre hopeless son.
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>Part I
Classic albeit derivative slasher. Considering the absolute tidal wave of forgettable slashers that came out during this time it must have done enough right to remain memorable.

>Part II
Not really straying much from the formula laid out in the original, still an above average slasher.

>Part III
Bonus points for picking up immediately after part II but the surprises were really running thin at this point. Began to ramp up the viciousness, the chase at the end was relentless and Jason took a beating. Personally, this is my guilty pleasure because I didn't realize it was filmed less than 10 minutes from my house...which I discovered while hiking and coming across the abandoned set. Funny story: years later a lost hiker came across the cabin (which was built specifically for the movie) and tried to start a fire in the non-functioning fireplace. Whole cabin burned to the ground but the barn is still there.

>Part IV
Objectively the best film in the series. Took everything the first 3 films laid out and executed it to perfection with a ton of unique little flourishes. Arguably among the best slashers of all time. Lots of characters but it does a good job of getting the audience to care about them. Doesn't really drag anywhere and the effects are flawless.

>Part V
Admire them for trying something new but nothing was going to top V. Felt like they realized this too, so they threw in as much tits as they could to compensate.

>Part VI
The franchise tries a new direction (over-the-top frankenjason) and this time succeeds. Also, this was the first big(ish) budget for a Jason movie, so it looked really good. Comedy went through the roof, so it's a bit polarizing for some.

>Part VII
Violence was neutered. Bigger budget with some good fx shots & Jason looked great. Introduced a supernatural element was interesting but not really sure if it was effective.

>Part VIII
Budget destroyed what could have been the penultimate Jason sequel.

Everything after that was awful.
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>>83864660
>Necronomican
Evil dead & Friday the 13th crossover when?
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>>83864660
Most of the movies are irredeemable shit, and the good things about them tend to be ripped off from other shit anyway
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2 > 4 > 3 > 1 > remake > FvJ > 5 > 6 > 7 > 8 > Hell > X

2 is only my favorite because of how much I fapped to Teri as a kid. FvJ is rated so high becaues it's dumb but much better than we deserved given how bad and forgotten both series got by that time. 5 is rated above 6 because tits. Tit nostalgia will always win for me.
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>>83865734
Thanks for the rundown anon, I'm going to watch these with some friends soon since I saw part 2 once when I was a little kid and need to see the rest
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>>83866995
Just finished the first three films myself, downloading 4 now, seems I'm in for one more treat then just downhill.
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>>83866995
Post the tits in question please
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What's the one with the hitchhiker getting knifed in the neck while eating a banana ? Is that part IV?
Anyway it definitely was my favorite when I was a kid, me & my brother must have rented ot a dozen times at the videoclub back then.
Manhattan is objectively one of the shittiest but again nostalgia makes me like it.
That said I thought Jason goes to Hell was pretty cool though lots of people seem to shit on it.
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>>83866995
>Tit nostalgia will always win for me.
Then I strongly suggest you watch Sleepaway Camp 2, maybe the slasher with the most tit shots in it ever
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>>83864660
>or even the Necronomican

Technically yes. The Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comics say that the Necronomicon gave power to Jason and keeps helping Freddy back into the mortal world so that it can cause more suffering and fear among mankind.

Jason is a deadite, Freddy's assisted by deadites.
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>>83865782
Already happened, see >>83871080

They're alright. The art is bad in a surprisingly tolerable way if that makes any sense and the story's zany, but it's fun and we finally get to see classic horror's iconic hero beat the living/undead shit out of its two iconic villains.
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I thought everyone loved Jason Lives.

Easily my favorite Friday the 13th movie
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>>83864884
>"Jason Goes to Hell" is the worst movie in the series
Bull fucking shit, its a iffy f13 film but a damn good body swapping horror film with a great cast.
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>>83864843
>>83864944
You people are delusional, 8 is fucking awful by FAR the worst of the series.
Worst make up for Jason, most missed opportunity, most misleading selling point, most asinine nonsensical ending.
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>>83865311
>Even 5 is better.
Nothing wrong with 5 besides Tommy being a near vegetable for much of it.
Fuck ton of kills, best nudity of the series, among the best final chases.
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>>83865575
Because they are retards, part 7 had the best make up of the entire series and was the 1 movie were Jason was scarier with the mask off and so it makes this garbage even worse.
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>>83871662
>Worst make up for Jason

get the fuck outta here
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>>83871154
It's not my favorite, but I like it a lot nonetheless, which I'm pretty sure is the most common sentiment. People who don't like it are probably just contrarians.
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> 6 > 5 > 9 > 7 > 2 = 3 = 2009 > 4 > fvsj > 10 >>> 8
Only reason 4 isn't equal with 2, 3 & 2009 is because I personally didn't like the cast as much.
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>>83871701
Outfit & body he was ok, I was talking face-wise... >>83865575
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why doesn't he rape the girls haha
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>>83871744
Oh 1 goes right behind 10 for me.
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BEST JASON
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>>83871154
Jason Lives is tame. No nudity. Tame gore. Bunch of kids.
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>>83871803
Was at a horror convention recently that C.J. Graham and Steve Dash were at. Someone had a Roy Burns figure for sale with a sign saying "Get it signed by real Jason actors" and I got a little triggered on the inside.
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Is it implied his mom committed all the murders in the first movie?
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>>83872518
>implied

Have you watched the movie
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>>83872518
Implied? No, it's expressly stated and even shown. She tells the audience that she did it all too in the final monologue.
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>>83865153
Final Chapter is the best Ft13th -- and probably my favorite.

>>83866995
>2 > 4

While I don't agree with this -- since I would switch them -- I can appreciate someone liking 2 that much. It has an eerier vibe -- especially with the shrine with Pamela's rotting head.
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>>83868541
Jason goes To Hell is a fun 90s horror movie, but shoe horning Jason into it was a mistake. Nothing about that movie feels anything like a F13 movie. It was a fully written and greenlit standalone horror film, but then they got the rights to Jason and lazily wrote him into it at the last minute.

If you go into Jason Goes to Hell with no preconceived notions it's great, imo. Just recognize that it totally fucks the lore and compartmentalize it apart from all the others. I him early think if it was a standalone film it would be seen as a quality 90s horror gem alongside From Dusk Til Dawn and the like.
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>>83872795
It sucks that Jason Goes to Hell has one of the best looking Jasons but he only has like 5 minutes of screen-time.

I can appreciate experimenting with the franchise, but you're right: it didn't feel like a Ft13th movie.
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>>83865575
Unmasking Jason AT ALL was a mistake. It should've remained always a mystery.
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Part 6>Part 3>Remake>Part 1>FvJ>Part 2>Part 4>Part 5>Part 8>Goes to Hell>Part 7>Jason X

Honestly though, the only film in the series I dislike is Jason X. I know you're supposed to find it funny, but it just comes off like people didn't care. Half the kills are off-screen or boring, and the series was never really stupid enough to warrant a sequel in space.

As to OP's original point, there was a Friday the 13th comic, I think called Bad Blood, where it showed Crystal Lake in colonial times having problems with a Native American slasher who was disfigured and had his family killed by trappers. The Native American slasher's kills mimic Jason's, which sorta just implies that Crystal Lake is an evil place that compels people to go crazy. Kinda like the Overlook Hotel minus the ghosts. I kinda like the idea of it just being a haunted setting, and Jason is its most powerful avatar.
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>>83865734
>Everything after that was awful.
FvJ is great schlock you pleb
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>>83864843
>>83864944

Manhattan is legitimately awful, even within the confines of the Friday the 13th franchise. The whole film is an exercise in wasted potential.

If it had a bigger budget, it might have been decent but they tried to do it on a shoestring and it resulted in an embarrassing mess.
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Was he gonna kill the loli in Part VI? Why did he hesitate?
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>>83872795
There was a bunch of fuckery going on behind the scenes from a shitty producer that ended up fucking over the movie. The original version delved pretty deep into the Jason mythos and his family but a lot of it was cut and re-written.
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>>83872881
No 7's make up was even scarier then the hocky mask.
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>>83864660
>Do you believe that there is something to Crystal Lake more than Jason?
One of the comics had the lake be some sort of The Grudge where all the rage of dead indians ghostfucked the place up with Jason as its vessel or something.
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>>83865311
>Part 3 is my personal favorite
>>83872899
>Part 3
Happy to see 3 gets some love.
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>>83865575

This is after he had acid thrown at him though, probably a little less messed up before that.
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>>83873228

Not my favourite Jason film, but this is my favourite look.

Pre-mecha Jason from Jason X is a great look also.
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>>83873259
The 2009 remake did the coat thing much better.
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>>83873170
yeah no
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>>83873273

Tbf, you're not wrong. I forgot about the 2009 film.
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Underrated kino coming through.

Fuck Marvel and DC, this is the cinematic universe I want.

>there will never be a Freddy v Jason v Myers v Ash

Just kill movies.
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Top tier mask.
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>>83873273
Yeah I like the way it makes him look like a looming harbinger of doom that he actually is.
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>>83873410

No idea why the cancelled the sequel they announced a while back. Would of been great timing with the new game getting popular...
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>>83873277
looks way too fucked up even for a mangled zombie, also... are those two noses he's got here?
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>>83873390
No

>>83873410
God no
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>>83873259
>>83873335
>>83873410
2009 is great right up until he kills the first group of kids. I liked that it was set up like you're being introduced to the characters you're going to follow around for the next 2 hours, then they all die 20 minutes in. The part with the guy in the bear trap was satisfyingly brutal.

It's all downhill from there, though.
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>>83873375
Agreed that FvJ was ten times better than any of us expected. FvJvA was my dream movie. Evil Dead is my favorite film. I'm hoping that with the new show Evil Dead is popular enough to maybe bring back the movie idea.

I don't think Myers would fit in, though. He's a bit outclassed in that fight and too similar to Jason. I think Freddy, Jason, and Ash would be perfect, but if they really want to bring in another movie baddy maybe something more like a straight monster would be good. The Jeepers Creepers monster might work. Maybe Pumpkinhead, but I don't think he's well known enough.
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>>83873549
>I don't think Myers would fit in, though. He's a bit outclassed in that fight
I don't see how, he is more resistance to injury then Jason, Jason is a zombie, Myers hasn't actually ever been killed despite taking just as much if not more damage then pre zombie Jason took to kill him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu43SbqQMAo
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>>83871126
Damn I don't read comics but I might read that one for based Ash.
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Whats the jump off point where horror series jump the shark? I'm thinking movie 4
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Part 9 was so bad that Jason X retconned it. You should always put 9 at the very bottom of any tier list.
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>>83874048
It varies. Friday the 13th jumped the shark with VIII.

Hellraiser did it with IV.

Halloween did it after H20

A Nightmare on Elm Street did it with 6.

You can't pinpoint it with accuracy.
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>>83873410
I wish they mad him bald in the movie though. having the hair seems so out of place.
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>>83874157
This is what faggots think. You're not a faggot, are you?
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>>83864884
>jason goes to hell is not him going to hell and fighting demons
DROPPED
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>>83873761
Reminder that the scene you posted ended with him going into a coma for a year, while Jason shrugs off similar barrages like they were nothing (See Jason X where the future security officers open up on him with machine guns).

>>83874048
Probably Part 8, to be honest. It's essentially a bog-standard Friday the 13th movie, but in a new location. Seems like the point they started running out of good ideas.

>>83873201
Part 3 is like, the proto-typical movie in the series. Nothing weird, no gimmicks, just Jason killing a memorable group of campers.
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>>83874201
>Unironically likes 9
your bullshiting
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>>83874249
Part 9 is fine as a horror film, just kind of a shit Jason film. It's at least not as fucking insulting as Jason X is.
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>>83873201
best kill
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>>83871701
Grimy Jason is really cool looking. It's my favorite hockey mask Jason.
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>>83874198
This is exactly why I don't like the remake's design.
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Anyone else fucking love the remake? It's basically F13: Greatest Hits edition with slick production values.
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>Remake the original f13
>Jason is the killer and not his mom

At least it had GOD TIER sex scenes
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>>83875024
It's shit.
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>>83875059
It's not a remake per se, it's more like what this guy said >>83875024. They basically combined elements from the first four movies. I like it a lot.
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>>83872977

I don't think he was going to kill the actual kids, he was just more curious than anything. Like he saw a child and reverted back to being a kid again.
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>>83875024
Honestly, it's probably the best slasher remake out of that weird craze. It changed just enough to make the formula feel fresh, while not changing things so much that it no longer feels like the original. It fits right in alongside the original series, and I'm sad there was no sequel.
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>>83875024
I liked it much more than I expected.
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>>83874243
That was actually one of the concepts for Freddy vs Jason that got tossed around.
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>>83875102
And he would've killed them easily if he wanted. He didn't.
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>>83875149

Yeah, I'm under the impression he never had anything against actual kids, just the teenagers and adults who wronged him.

In fact, I'd be mad if they ever changed the story line in a new movie and he killed children. It would be out of character for him. Unless the kid was like trying to fight/kill him like Tommy Jarvis.
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The actor for the 2009 reboot was a great choice, hopefully they use him again if they ever make a sequel.
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>>83875241
Same reason Kane Hodder refused to shoot a scene with Jason kicking a dog. Jason may be a relentless murdering pyscho but he's not an asshole.
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>>83875241
Well he's basically mad at teens fucking like his mom in the first part.
Just jealous he never got some I reckon
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>>83875109
>it's probably the best slasher remake out of that weird craze
The 03 TCM was better but yeah it is up there, My Bloody Valentine also.

The Hitcher remake was also surprisingly good.
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>>83875664
>>83875241
>>83875149
He tried to kill Tommy Jarvis in Part IV, also he killed that 15 year old girl in one of them and even an unborn babby in Part III. He also killed the dog in part 2 and was scripted to eat a dude's pet rabbit.
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>>83875846
So Zombie Jason isn't an asshole but Alive Jason was.
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>>83875846
Tommy I'll give you, but I don't remember that 15-year old (and besides, teenagers are in his kill range) and he had no way of knowing that girl was pregnant.
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>>83864660
Best Girl
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Can't take this series as anything but garbage (except when it embraced the hokey) after seeing psycho and Halloween, it just ripped off those shamelessly

Hockey Jason is a goddamn Myers ripoff
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>>83876676

Best girl in worst movie
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>>83875846

Because tommy was trying to take him down.
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>>83876703
What are you even trying to say Sherlock? That Jason was a Michael Myers ripoff? No fucking kidding. Sean Cunningham flat out said Friday the 13th movie was inspired by Halloween's success. It started that way but went on to become it's own thing.
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>>83874159
Hellraiser did it with 3
Halloween did it with 6
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>>83876676
shame her originally planned death scene got scrapped
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>>83877073
What was it?
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5 is my favourite. Am I the only one?
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>>83877242
Death by dildo
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>>83877242
She was gunna get stabbed in her cunt while doing gymnastics
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>>83877256
Pretty sure you are
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>>83877256

Yes. It's the second worst
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>>83877256
Are you the same retard praising Freddy's Dead in the other thread?
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>>83875024
I do. It's fun, it doesn't take itself too serious, and it's a great nod to many things that made the franchise great. Yes there are downsides to it as well but otherwise, a pretty decent product in fresh modern packing. Anyway, it's on par with the remake of TCM - good as a standalone modern slasher flick, not so great compared to the originals.
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>>83877317
Stabbed / chopped through her cunt while doing a headstand or some yoga bullshit

deleted scene where
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>>83876793
but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HltchTPbH5Y
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>>83877355
no
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>>83877755
Well you're just as retarded.
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>>83877330
>>83877349
why do people hate 5 then? it actually did something different and that tommy was way more based than the one in 6
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Definitive Order via the Stat Wars ranking meme,

>4<7<2<1<Re<7<3<FvJ<<8<5<<<<<X<<<<<<<<<<<Hell

I wish I could put FvJ higher but there was a lot of competition.
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Also anyone have the clip of the Asian kid and the freezer.
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>>83864944
Jason Lives is the best in the whole series.
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>>83877783

I love Tommy in part 6; he's the perfect fuck up.

>try to put personal demons to rest
>wind up making the relentless killer an inhumanly strong zombie
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>>83871675
Almost every kill fucking sucks. Completely forgettable.
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>>83871080
I always assumed that

>Jason drowned
>grieving, Pamala used the necronomican to resurrect Jason, even though it wasn't the same Jason
>Using the book cause Pamala to go crazy
>Friday the 13th part 1 starts
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>>83875102
>>83872977
In one of the comics, he kidsnaps a retarded (?) kid and pretty much was gonna keep him alive.
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>>83878150
Pamala? She wasn't hindi, pajeet.
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>>83873410
only good movie with micheal bay's name attached?
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>>83873459
dude did get a face full of propeller in the last movie
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>>83873549
>>83873761
>I don't think Myers would fit in,

Only way I could see Micheal work against Jason/Freddy

>Vs. Jason
Micheal here I think can out ninja Jason. Also, He can't take any direct blows.
>Vs. Freddy
Micheal doesn't seem the person to dream. Even if freddy did trap him in the dream, Micheal is in essense the pure physical form of evil. He has no fear to feed Freddy
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>>83874159
H20 sucked. It didn't get Micheal right at all.
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>>83877926
Tommy is one of my favorite horror characters because he's a good mix of fuckup and hero
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>>83878326
The kid was just deformed, and he took him on killings and shit, so it's safe to say they became friends. Didn't Jason even throw himself off a cliff to save elephant man boy from the meth cop in the end?
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So was Camp Crystal Lake Chronicles cancelled?
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>>83865734
I'm not sure you know what penultimate meams but solid rundown
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>>83878150
part 1

>jason drowns, pamela goes crazy

part 2 retcon

>jason didnt drown, crazy hobo woodsman, saw his mother die goes crazy

part 6 retcon

>jason drowned before tommy killed him so he was always a zombie

Which makes no fucking sense honestly

I prefer to think of it as Jason nearly drowned but washed up somewhere, crazy hobo, killed by tommy, comes back as super zombie after tommy fucks up
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>>83878484
Michael would fuck up freddy even in the dream

Pre zombie Jason Michael would win but post I don't know

I guess Michael has literally never died, Jason has, dude comes back from getting shot in the eyes and blowing up
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>>83878511
>H20 sucked

glad someone agrees, fucking trash

Only good Halloweens are the 1st 4, 5 is entertaining though
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Part V has more in common with the first movie than all the rest
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>>83871634
Body swap movies are shit. They did it well with the thing but every other time it happens it's just a cheap excuse to avoid needing a budget.
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>>83878844
Michael is the Batman plot armorer of slashers, he won't win in the movie but the sequel will retcon him as having beaten Jason via who the fuck knows.
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>>83879032
Nigga The Borrower was cool
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>>83879032
Not always, The Hidden is a great body swap movie
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Someone really should start a podcast on just 80's slasher flicks. The genres huge and had so many iconic characters
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>>83880567
On that note, anyone remember a Z-grade slasher about a shaman? Can't seem to recall more of that shit but I saw it in the early 90s.
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>>83880831
you just described half the horror movies of the era. Shamans were the ultimate excuse
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>>83873761
I think it has more to do with what Michael is. While most other slasher monsters are just monsters, Myers isn't even a being really, he's death, a personified death, no more, no less. He wouldn't work in any sort of crossover movie beyond maybe ash, but even then, his lack of emotion wouldn't bounce too well of Bruce's charisma
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>>83880974
>Myers isn't even a being really, he's death, a personified death
>gets BTFO'd by Busta Rhymes
I dunno m8.
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>>83878387
TCM remakes were pretty okay too.
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>>83881578
I'm talking about original Michael, I stopped watching the series after 4
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>>83872928
That old argument huh? Anything corny and dumb is schlock?

No sorry, that doesn't work. Part 3 and Part 6 were great schlock. FvJ was corporate-driven focus-tested intentional schlock...and that's why it fails. It's trying to do what real schlock lovably bumbles into. It's the slasher equivalent to Snakes on a Plain, it's like those Sony leaked emails where they discuss how to make Spiderman hip to darn kids.

Not to mention the fact that it's a cheap looking dull movie. Not as bad as Alien vs Predator 2 but not as good as AvP 1.
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>>83880974
Wait what the fuck? I only watched 1 and 2, he didn't seem to be anything other than a regular dude who was just good at killing people?
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>>83883076
I think that anon is talking more about the "essence" of Michael Myers as a character. What Carpenter always intended him to be. An unstoppable force.
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>>83883271
Oh right, my bad. Then what separates him from Jason? That's pretty much his thing. Unstoppable murder machine.
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>>83883271
>An unstoppable force
That'd be Jason. Carpenter meant Myers to be more of an immovable object.

Michael Myers is more of an unexplainable, unapologetic, primal evil.

One of the reasons why Rob Zombie explaining his backstory was flat out retarded.
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>>83883298
Pretty much except Jason's got more backstory and lore, I guess. That is until the RZ Halloween remakes.

>>83883322
Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. The embodiment of evil.
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>>83883349
Oh right I got you. It really boils down to "man in a mask is the best at killing people" though, right? I never really got much more than that from Halloween 1 and 2, though it has been years since I last saw them.
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6 is the best
9 is the worst

Also, why do people hate Jason X again? It was fun.
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>>83883434
I think that's all Carpenter was trying to say, yeah. That's why the first two movies are so simple and effective, no stupid spoopy backstory or other wacky paranormal shit going on, etc.
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>>83883563
Right. So it's a case of "exposition spoils the story"? F13 came packed with exposition, while Michael Myers just killed people because someone has to die in this movie?
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>>83872977
Pamela herself never killed children, I think directors prefer to have Jason be a killer with a moral compass when it comes to hurting animals and children. Jason did however attack and terrorize little Tommy Jarvis in Part 4.
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>>83883669
Pretty much, the only explanations you really get in the first two are Loomis' monologues which are genuinely chilling in their own right
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>>83874157
Neither 9 or X maintained the tradition of being movie parts.
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>>83883669
Friday the 13th has a pretty good basic setup, though, at least until it kinda goes off the rails in later movies. Halloween didn't need much of a setup and was just good on its own, which is why most people hate the Rob Zombie movies.
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>>83883947
When I say packed I meant more "the exposition comes with the movie", it's the reason the events of the movie happen.
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>>83884072
Ah yeah, right. In Halloween bad shit happens just because, which is why Carpenter wanted to turn it into an anthology series with 3 because he felt like there was nothing else to do with the character.
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>>83884189
Definitely need to watch those films again. When should I abandon the series? I seem to recall 4 is when it jumps the shark?
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>>83884189
But of course normies had to FUCKING ruin it
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>>83884241
Honestly I'd only watch 1-3, but I'm not a huge Halloween fan. Other people say some of the later movies aren't as bad. I recall 6 being pretty shitty and having a pants on head retarded cultist backstory or something like that.

>>83884248
Yeah and Carpenter was right about having nowhere to go after 2. Hell if I remember right he didn't really even want there to be a second movie.
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1 > 6 > 4 > X
But having also rewarmtcged them recently, they're all much weaker than I remember.

Hellraiser (1-3) and A Nightmare in Elm Street (1-5) are still excellent though.
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>>83884312
He didn't, he only made it because it was part of a contract, but yeah, everything after 3 is just generic slasher shit that ruins everything that made the original so good
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6 is the best. 7 is the worst fight me.
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>>83874948
I never noticed that you can see the string the eyeball is attached to before
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>>83875024
I like that it gets rid of the supernatural shit. I like the originals for their campiness and all and they're better slasher films than the remake, but the remake is a better horror film. Jason's just some regular dude albeit a crazy tough survivalist who don't want no one fuckin with his campground.
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>>83885006

Not a fan of 7, but 9 was far worse.
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I liked how in Part 6 one of the musical motif used for Jason was Dies Irae.
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>>83883271
>>83883298
I guess Jason is sorta sympathetic, at least compared to Michael? Jason only kills because his mom tells him to and because as that Ash comic shows he associates the people he kills - the slutty people, partiers, late-teens - with the people who led him to die and who his mom said were to blame for everything. Jason doesn't enjoy murder and at times won't murder those who don't pose a threat to him or who he doesn't have that association thing with, unless someone like Freddy or the Necronomicon goad him into killing.

Jason kills in what in his still very much juvenile and stunted mind believes is self-defense and that everyone he's killed has been trying to kill him or were responsible for it, and because he thinks his mom tells him to. Myers just kills because he can. He's got no personality, no soul, no moral, no motive. He's just cruel and hates what's left of his family.

Both went the weird supernatural route for no apparent reason but both are very different characters.
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>>83885322
>at times won't murder those who don't pose a threat to him

he kills literally every single thing he encounters whether they're children teens adults elderly or disabled in a fucking wheelchair
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talking slashers. I thought Hatchet was fun
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>>83878795
>part 6 retcon
>jason drowned before tommy killed him so he was always a zombie

Pretty sure it was just the bolt of lightning that brought Jason back.

And no, it doesn't make sense any more sense.
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>>83864843
I don't know, I didn't like it. I liked the show down the the telekinetic girl in part 7, part 3 was also entertaining, so was part 1. I felt Part 2 was pretty bad because klan jason wasn't really scary and it didn't feel like a friday the 13th film.
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>Visit /tv/ earlier today

>Comfy horror or some shit

>Someone links

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsxECp5i2Wg

>Someone else mentions jason movies
>Likely op

>There are a probably a few more fags who saw that thread and decided to have horror day

>Only problem is pontypool was priddy gud now I want more horror drama's

And Jason didnt win freddy vs jason if you say otherwise you are a confirmed mouth breather
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But what was the best soundtrack and best death in the series?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6P4iatMl7M

https://youtu.be/wra38qL-qco?t=311
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>>83865153
>The Necronomicon is in Jason Goes to Hell.

We NEED Ash to face off against some movie monsters. An epic chainsaw fight between Jason and Ash would be dope.
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>>83865734
Part 6 is by far my favorite in the series, the character have much more human interactions and the death are more brutal and random even to the point on first view you think he might kill one of those kids. And the Alice Cooper song was dope, you know be cause he's back, the man behind the mask and he is out of control.
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>>83871080
So as far as the hardcore fan base goes they love the comic but consider it separate from the movies, its kinda like how hardcore star wars fans look at the movies and the EU.

Its there and you can put them together but you should see them different. Me personally I add all the shit together because take a moment and look at how fucked up the time line is. The second movie came out a year after the first but took place 5 years later, and the keep doing it, by the time 9 came out the movies should take place in 2020.
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>>83872881
>remained always a mystery
The fuck are you atalking about? It was never a mystery. In his first appearance he was without a mask and in every movie since he's been unmasked. I'm guessing you're just here from the game and have never actually seen any of the movies
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>>83874159
>A Nightmare on Elm Street did it with 6.

Ok I am a huge fan of the series but I would say 4. Dream warrior was so odd and fun but after that they seemed to be more comedies with brutal deaths. You went to see those movies because of the odd kills.

New Nightmare was a fucking beast, and FvJ was super odd fun. 2 was super gay, even the director has since admitted he made that way.
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>>83876846
Fun fact he right out called up his partner at the time and said "hey lets rip that thing off"

They needed to get in on the scary holiday thing that started to spark and I shit you not Friday the 13 was the last one that wasn't either released or in production so he rushed out and made a poster for a movie they didn't even have just so they could sell it and well the rest is history. If you want a fucking cool documentary about F13, check out Crystal lake memories.
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