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Last thread hit the bump limit.

So, I decided to dig out my copy of the book Crystal Lake Memories and dump random facts from the series, starting with Part 9, Jason Goes to Hell.
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>>83684151
Bumpin'. Production notes on GTH are hard to find.
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Jason takes Manhattan is underrated
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>>83684151

>>83684151

Kari Keegan, the actress who played Jessica Kimble in Jason Goes to Hell, lied to get the role as the main girl in the film. She told director, Adam Marcus, that she would do a nude scene, which was part of the description for the job in the slasher movie. However, when it came time to do the scene she refused and accused Marcus of sexual harassment, saying she never agreed to a nude scene. She caused a huge stink about it and wore dixie cups over her breasts during the intended scene so Marcus couldn't lower the camera too far. She also walked off the set and demanded he be removed as director during the last couple days of shooting.
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>>83684151
Is it 1989?
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You clowns are aware this is the worst horror franchise, right?
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>>83684318
The Halloween sequels are way worse than Friday the 13th.
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>>83684252
They gave him a cool, slimy look and a yellow-ish mask that I really like.
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>>83684258

Quote from Adam Marcus:

> It had been a very long road with Kari. There was this whole situation with the nudity that was, in my opinion, very underhanded. I didn't feel she had been straight with me upfront that she wasn't going to do any, that she didn't want to. Even after we started shooting it, if she had gotten cold feet and just had talked to me about it, it would have been a different situation.
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>>83684318
>what is Paranormal Activity
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>>83684252
Is it? Because Jason works when he's in isolated places away from the authorities. When he's in the middle of 1989 Manhattan, that kinda ruins what he is.

I mean, say the final guy and girl just stayed in the middle of those crowded streets, would Jason really kill them in front of all those people? The NYPD would be on his ass so fast that he'd be nothing but a greasy smear on the streets.

>>83684290
1993. And it's shocking that it's production values look worse than 80's ones.

You know, there's something I noticed after seeing a lot of movies made in 1989. There's definitely a tone and aesthetics shift once 1990 rolled in. Compare 1989's movies to what was released the next year and even 1991. I can't put my finger on it, but horror, comedy, and other genres from 1989 stand in contrast to the early 90's releases.
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>>83684318
Friday the 13th is stupid campy fun all the way through.

Halloween got straight up retarded, and so did Nightmare. Pinhead went to fucking space.

And let's not forget Puppet Master
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>>83684258
>>83684416
Wow, what a fucking bitch. No wonder her career went nowhere. If she didn't want to go nude, no problem, but doing that sort of shit burns your bridges.

>>83684378
I agree, but I have a soft spot for Halloween 4 and the Director's Cut for Halloween 6.

>>83684408
Oh yeah, he definitely looked terrifying in that get-up.
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>>83684416
Kari Keegan:

>The whole nudity thing got really funny, in an uncomfortable way, because Adam assured Sean Cunningham that he was going to get me to do a nude scene. I had spoken to my agent about it beforehand when he first sent me in. I said, "I don't do nudity."

>When all is said and done, my parents have to see this. And you're going to be on film for the rest of your life.
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>>83684537
>Pinhead went to fucking space.
Unlike Jason?
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>>83684517
Yeah Jason Takes Manhattan is pretty silly. He goes terminator mode for no real reason, only stalking the main characters and ignoring everyone else. I guess the whole joke is that late 80s NYC was so shitty that Jason wasn't seen as anything out of the ordinary by onlookers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obtc9U6hEYM
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>>83684537
>Pinhead went to fucking space.
I only saw the first 2 Hellraiser movies because I loved Kirsty's character. Glad I avoided the sequels.

>Puppet Master
That's a film series I need to watch when I get the chance.

>Nightmare
It had its share of good films. I really enjoyed Dream Warriors and New Nightmare. I sorta liked some of the ideas that Freddy's Dead tried to utilize, but it could've been better handled. Freddy vs Jason was interesting solely for the prologue intro. I really wish we had a Freddy origins movie where we saw him as the Springwood Slasher; a twisted serial killer who was just a human being that preyed on children. If you had it done in the style of Se7en and Zodiac, it'd be kino.
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>>83684626
>I guess the whole joke is that late 80s NYC was so shitty that Jason wasn't seen as anything out of the ordinary by onlookers.
Which I get because I actually grew up in NYC in the 80's and early 90's. Kids today would be shocked if they were shown what a rat-hole Times Square was in 1989. They had porno theaters and the crack epidemic. Not to mention all those homeless dudes that sprayed your windshield without asking and smashed it if you didn't give them a dollar.
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>>83684258
>>83684416
F*ck yeah, Kari Keegan is based. F*cking perverts want to use her just to see her br**sts and sn*tch when she's in the field of acting (not pornography). Haha, and look who got the last laugh. Friday the 13th movies are a total joke today.
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>>83684318

>what is Saw
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>>83684623
Jason makes sense in Space. He's a killer, he can kill anywhere.

Pinhead is all about psychological horror, he looks dumb in space.
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>>83684258
Where were they even going to have a sex scene for her? Goes to Hell really upped the nudity quotient though. Easily the most graphic sex scenes since Part 5.
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>>83684626

The weirdest thing for me is that they replaced Jason's iconic noise with a weird, ghostly laugh. Check out the shot with him climbing the anchor onto the cruise ship.
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Alright some more trivia on Jason Goes to Hell. During production, Sean Cunningham, the producer demanded Jason not be in the movie, particularly his hockey mask. Sean had directed the original Friday the 13th and had just gotten the rights back and hated Jason as the killer. So, this forced Director, Adam Marcus and Writer, Dean Lorey to come up with the idea of body swapping. Early drafts featured Jason's brother Elias pulling Jason's body out of Crystal Lake and then disecting his body and eating his heart. Rumors to this day state that this wasn't just early drafts, that lots of cut footage pertained to this Elias Voorhees idea and Sean fucking up the movie. It's been long alleged that after an early screening with a disappointed test audience, New Line demanded reshoots and Jason be added back in. As part of this rumor, Marcus and Lorey supposedly could never give an official comment due to a contract agreement, but what is known fact is that the film after the test audience screening was cut down to pnly 45 minutes of usable footage and Adam Marcus was removed from editing.
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>>83684813
>Jason makes sense in Space.
This is seriously something you just said.
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>>83684860
She has a shower scene. She was probably supposed to be nude there.
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>>83685057
Goes to hell is easily the worst Friday.

>>83685075
I can see Jason in Space. It's stupid, but in a fun way.

I can see Jason doing any number of stupid things, but Pinhead isn't supposed to be dumb horror
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>>83684290
Some shitty game just came out so now we have to endure these shill threads.
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It's a pity that Final Friday was set in 1993. I think the 90's Friday the 13th film should've been in the late 90's. Especially after Scream in 1996. I'm willing to bet we could've seen a Jason film that explores and deconstructs the unstoppable killer convention as well as clever meta commentary. Not to mention actually have ALL the characters act logically and not run around like retards. Even despite being level-headed and doing all the right things, it doesn't matter because that's how fucking scary Jason is. He's a zombie Terminator and will not stop.
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>>83684626
Why did he even leave Crystal Lake in the first place in that movie? What was his endgame?
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>>83685219
Friday the 13th threads were a pretty common thing before the game came out. Don't like it, don't post in it.
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>>83685265
The ship drifted into his lake, and he got mad and attacked the boat
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>>83685265
The real question is how do you get to New York from a fucking lake?
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>>83685057

Sean Cunningham in Crystal Lake Memories:

>It was a disaster. I didn't think about replacing Adam until we were in the cutting room, at which point he had done everything he could do, and it became up to me and the editors, and Dean Lorey tobtry and turn this "thing" into a movie. We cut the film down and we were able to salvage 45 or 50 minutes out of this 105-minute cut. And it was still the longest cut I'd ever seen. It felt like it ran for four days. And we went back and we shot footage and inserted it. We took it from something that was unreleasable to something that was okay.
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>>83685283
No they weren't
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I'm actually surprised they exhausted every single idea in the Friday franchise except turning Jason into a good guy like what happened to Godzilla.
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>>83685326
Fuck off retard. Who gives a shit if the game renewed interest in the movies? We're not talking about the game so this thread is completely on-topic.
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>>83685340
They did that, it was called Freddy vs Jason.
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>>83685340
Jason was basically the good guy of Freddy vs Jason, so whatever
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>>83685397
Nah Jason was just the 'less evil' guy compared to Freddy
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>>83685419
And Godzilla is the less evil monster
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>>83685492
No Godzilla literally became a hero fighting to protect earth. The puppets in Puppet Master turned into heroes too eventually.
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>>83685386
It's a bad game and I don't want any anons getting tricked into buying it.
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>>83685558
I'm planning on pirating it when singleplayer is finally added
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>>83684151
Does it mention anything about Hodder pissing allover the other actors trailers
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More Jason Goes to Hell info:

>Early drafts if the script had a flashback scene with Jason's mom fucking him as a child. Adam Marcus and Dean Lorey thought it'd be edgy and dark.

>In the original cut, Jessica and Robert the trash TV guy, were not a couple. It was changed during edits and reshoots when Sean Cunningham took the movie away from Marcus, resulting in weird moments where it looks like Jessica doesn't care about her mom's death.
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>>83685219
Everything is a shill thread to you game of thrones fags
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>>83685411

Freddy wanted to kill kids and torture people.
Jason, even his mom, essentially just wanted people to stay the fuck off their lawn.

Jason is cranky, but ultimately not evil.
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>>83684537
>>83684813
>>83685148
Pinhead makes more sense in space, honestly. I'm not going to defend that Hellraiser movie, but the cenobites aren't locally bound like a normal monster, since they can manifest wherever someone uses the puzzle box. Likewise using "hell" in a science fiction setting can work well, e.g. Event Horizon. Again I'm not defending that movie, just speaking hypothetically.
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>>83685715
Yeah but Jason kills a lot of people who had never set foot at Crystal Lake, hell he even killed the caretaker responsible for taking care of his own mother's grave
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So what really happened with Chris in Part 3? She gets attacked by Jason, blacks out and then wakes up in her bed with no memory of what happened. Implied rape?
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>>83685558
It's a fun game. It just needs some polishing and more content. Go back to playing huniepop anime games or whatever you /v/tards play.
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>>83684258
Well, that explains why she wasn't in the Crystal Lake documentary. It was weird how only Part 9 and X were missing their final girls.
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I will never, EVER forgive FvJ for making Jason afraid of water.

It makes absolute zero canon sense.
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>>83685826
Forgot the link. Skip to about 1:30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWp9AS5LiHQ
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>>83685826
OP here, according to Crystal Lake Memories they were trying to imply rape without explicitly saying it. It was daid that audiences found rape more distasteful than murder.
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>>83685826
I think jason was so retarded sex wasnt even on his radar he probably just dumped her out of his woods because mommy was still alive and she would be mad if he was with a girl
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>>83685887
That's stupid, but he only seems to be afraid of Water in his dreams, so maybe you could play it off as a psychological representation of things he associates with losing his mom or something.
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>>83685887
I thought it was ok it made sense since it was the cause of his constant deaths and even though the lake would ressurect him he was justifiably afraid of it
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>>83685253
Then audiences would just claim they were copying Scream.
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>>83685715
>Jason, even his mom, essentially just wanted people to stay the fuck off their lawn.

This aspect was kinda lost in the remake but i really liked the idea of Jason luring teenagers into his lair with super-weed.
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>>83685946
Yeah I guess her encounter with him presumably took place before he really started his big killing spree in part 2. It's an interesting subplot to the part 3 that just kind of got dropped.
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>>83686074
Yeah where did that giant crop of weed come from? That was weird. I forgot about that part.
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>>83685946
Someone speculated that this was before Jason's mom got killed so he just wanted to scare Chris and any other interlopers in his woods. It was only after witnessing Pamela's decapitation that Jason pulled off the kid gloves.
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>>83686106
Watch the movie thinking Jason was setting up teens regularly and it becomes more platable, i really did not hate the remake desu.
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>>83686136
>>83685946
Is there any canon explanation for Jason's survival and hermitage?
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>>83685906
Part 3 would have been a much better movie with Vera and Shelley as the leads. They had some genuine chemistry going on.
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>>83685808

that's only when the bad movie started dropping like fresh turds (8 on)

Yes, some were killed, but he just wanted to get home.

haven't you ever wanted to kill someone on the highway? that's all jason did. he killed the slow guy in the lowered 95 civic.
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>>83686232
Just the campfire stories at the beginning of 2.
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>>83684695
Would you watch a movie of a normal guy with underlying urges who finally snapped and killed a young girl, the film would then follow the life of a serial killer trying to mask his tendencies as a normal functioning adult. Then the finally would be the neighborhood rallying up and burning his house, the end credit scene would be Freddy making his pact with the spirits cuts to black and him saying something like fucking bitch.
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Alright, some Part 3 trivia:

Jason had an unused face design. During all the scenes where Jason is unmasked walking around in the shadows, his face is that of this unused make-up, which had been designed by Stan Winston. An alternate ending was shot where Chris dreams about Jason killing her which featured this unused make-up.
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>>83686968
Not feeling this senpai, then again I hated 3 so whatever.
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>>83686968
Reminds me of Goldblum in The Fly.
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>>83686968
Keep the trivia comin
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>>83685322
you swim you dumbshit
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>>83686968
Interesting. Part 3 could have been much more than it ended up being. Here's a short tour of the set with the biker chick. The "lake" was man-made and probably only about three feet deep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cUx4KhXyEQ
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Part 3 trivia- Chris raped by Jason?

Below is a quote from part 3 screen writer, Petru Popescu, from Crystal Lake Memories:


>The biggest discussions were around what was the exact nature of her backstory with Jason. We talked about a certain type of sensibility and drama--would a rape take the audience out of the fantasy, while killing would bot? We will accept mutilation of the body, but not the notion of sexual penetration. Of course, it has something to do with Amwrica--there's a remarkably Puritanical quality in this country about sex, even though America is totally obsessed with it. However, this is relatively true in other parts of the world, too--killing can be entertainment and rape cannot be. If you see a head roll in these movies, it's okay. It's like play. But if you see someone invaded or soiled--that's not amusing for anyone. So we left it ambiguous.
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>>83685588
Why the fuck is it only multiplayer? The fuck happened to releasing lengthy and concise single-player games? Now it seems multiplayer is first and so games come out shit.

>>83684537
Bloodline was great, apart from the same fucking guy playing his descendants. Sure it wasn't just sexual and horrific and otherworldly like the original, but it was enjoyable. I also like Jason X. You can only go so far with a character(s) so at least fun movies like these should be seen with this in mind. Also, it's not like they're god-tier and artistic in an of themselves, they're characters who kill in B-movie-tier series.
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Generals belong on /vg/
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Here's a location tour for Part 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkHdv3ICT6Y
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>>83687668
Jason is asexual.
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Dominick Brascia, the actor who played Joey in Part 5 was accused of raping Corey Haim and sexually abusing other up and coming child stars.
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Violet in Part 5 had an alternate unused death scene in which she was doing a head stand and gor stabbed in her vagina. The death wasn't used because it looked like she was having her period.
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>>83684151
Best Girl
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>>83684151
The only good thing to come from the franchise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueDjKkipScs
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>>83687792
Why weren't there any nudes in Part 6?
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>>83688557
I think the director wanted to distance his movie from the sleaze factor in Part 5. He made the right choice I think.
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>>83688555
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4WybuBSqOM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qqwyPS5tk
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>>83688557
>>83688767

Tom McLougglin, the writer/director wanted to get in as much gore as possible. The MPAA ruined some of his more gorey kills and he ended up shooting three different versions of gore scenes as he put it, a PG-13 version, an R version, and an X version. Major cut gore included some extra gore of Jason ripping out the guy's heart in the cemetary and steam coming off of it. There was a gorier version of the girl getting killed in the cabin, where her head gets ripped off with Jason's bare hands. Another involved fully showing the people playing paintball get decapitated. Also the girl in the camper gets her face pushed through metal and then Jason stabs through her face with his knife. He wanted over the top, supernatural kills that no normal person could do.
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>>83689138
McLoughlin really went above and beyond for part 6. He had some really good ideas that got scrapped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUvTqSb2jw8
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>>83689138
Storyboard showing excised gore.
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>>83689138
McLoughlin ultimately shot three endings, two of which, against his expectations, were not included on the film's DVD release. In one ending, Jason's mask floats to the surface of Crystal Lake, having become detached during his struggle with Megan. In another, Deputy Cologne was seen trying to reach the jail cell keys after having been locked in by Tommy and Megan; the door to the police station opens and the film abruptly ends, indicating that Jason had managed to get free. The producers disliked both of these endings, as each one left Jason's survival ambiguous, and wanted it explicitly shown onscreen that he was still capable of returning for a sequel. As a result, McLoughlin shot the film's current ending, showing a closeup of Jason's open, twitching eye.
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>>83689138

the girl getting killed in the cabin is totally out of place in the theatrical cut. it is mostly cut but thelittle you see you know its brutal. felt out of place.

plus she was a cutie and nice :(
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>>83689339
Tom McLoughlin on shooting extra kills after the first screening:

>Before, she git pulled out through the window and then you never saw whst happened to her until her head rolled out. Now, we added a shot of her head being twisted, pulled up and off. It was incredbly gory--and you saw all this skin stretch and all this stuff in her neck and then it snapped off.
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>>83689195
>Elias Voorhees
If they do end up making the TV series, it would be kind of mildly interesting to see what they do with Elias.
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>>83684252
even though it's more Jason takes a cruise ship at least its a different setting then the campgrounds we got for 7 movies
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>>83688361
They never said it was a head stand, did they? In the doc they said they considered it but it would have been rated X.

>>83688218
Interesting factoid: he became good friends with Vic, his murderer.
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Here are my ideas for a re-imagined clean reboot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7JbikQaB5I

The beginning of Jason X was interesting.

>Focus the story on Government Officials secluding Jason Voorhees at a Military Black Site, with him maskless and in a somewhat five year-old unwashed orange garb.
>And his legacy, his supernatural-like strength and healing abilities.
>Scientists study him.
>Government trains him to kill specific targets, basically programming him to become a weapon.
>Is like a chained pitbull, taught to attack and sniff out undesirables
>Set plan in motion for an Operation to cause domestic terror attacks so an Illuminati-like organization can have a more controlled, in-looking America.
>Illuminati agents are proxies for a bunch of old white suits that meet at a House by a lake where he turns on his handlers and goes after them (who surrounded by an elite security team), I think Jason has to have an equal / a twist with a programmed-like killer who is unleashed on Jason
>Get a great director and some A-list Hollywood stars

That has always piqued my interest.
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>>83689912
Tiffany Helm, Violet's actress:

>My original death scrne looked like a gruesome ad for heavy-duty feminine protection.

>I was originally doing aerobics in my room, on my back with my legs in the air, scussoring. Jason comes in and, 'Wham!' He machetes me right up the middle. Well, I thought it was funny. The producers did not. And Danny(the director) did not. They knew that would not make it through the censors.
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>>83690167
I agree making the outside world aware of Jason is an interesting concept. Similar to the FBI operation to take him down at the beginning of Jason Goes to Hell.
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>>83690169
That is an interesting factoid. You know your stuff
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>>83684752
Not liking jizz booth theaters and bums rubbing newspapers on your windshield
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>>83690275

Yeah, I also wouldn't mind it if they put Jason in a very grounded, dark Military Black Site setting. It would totally change the direction of the franchise and slasher horror in general.

I mean if a killer like this existed irl, and couldn't be killed, the US Government would no doubt find a way to grab him up and I have always loved that concept.

Maybe even a scene where...

Spook: "Oh. You really thought you were the only one? We grab you asshole abominations up everyday and use you for OUR purposes because the real monster here is us, you fucking mute!"

Jason turns around to see an 8ft behemoth of a man codenamed "Goliath".
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>>83689138
>>83689251
so what happened to the negatives? Not just 6 but really any of these movies. They must be somewhere right?
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>>83684408
the part where he lifts up his mask to those fags on the street was the best part of the movie
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>>83685826
It's shot and framed like a rape scene, and that's what the director was going for, so yes, he raped her.
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>>83690581
Locked away in a random storage vault somewhere, or thrown away, or buried in some hole in Nevada.
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>>83690581
Probably lost or destroyed by Paramount. Paramount lost the original ending of Part 3 and lost the audio track for the alternate ending of Final Chapter. There's tons of deleted gore for parts 5, 6, and 7.
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>>83690848
Part 7's gore is found, why don't they put it back in the movie?
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>>83691050
The footage is probably too old and degraded at this point.
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The alternate ending to part 7. A bunch of footage was cut from this film, particularly the ending, because of a spiteful old female producer who hated horror films, and didn't like that the director showed Jason unmasked despite that she told him no. So to punish him she fucked with the ending, mostly with Tina's father. Originally he was going to be a gory puppet. Then later he was changed to a zombie make-up, but the producer shit on the make-up ideas and demanded the father just look normal like he's shown in the final cut. One last Jason kill at the end was also cut.

https://youtu.be/YbHZ_29RRHI
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>>83691050
Lots of reasons. Mainly they would need to do new audio and music for the scenes and restore the negatives, but Paramount doesn't want to spend the money.
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>>83691157
Source on all this? I thought they scrapped the zombie makeup on the dad because it looked goofy.
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>>83691157
Jesus Christ again with the boat jump scare, it would've been a fucking gag by that point. Good riddance.
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>>83691315
Yeah, the dream sequence fake out was done in the first three and then abandoned. Guess they wanted to bring it back.
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>>83691260
Nah it's said both in the Crystal Lake Memories book and documentary that a female producer had it out for John Carl Buechler, the director. The make-up was pretty decent and looked like Evildead.
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Only death that made me feel sad honestly
>Actually does battle with Jason
>Leads him into the woods to get him away from the kids
>Tackles Jason and mono e mono's him when he heads towards the sound of his daughter's screams
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>>83684378
No 2 & 4 are better then any F13 film except possibly 6.
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>>83691469
They probably should have just scrapped the dad pulling Jason back into the lake thing altogether and come up with something else.
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>>83685887
it was supposed to be a deep rooted psychological fear of drowning, which makes sense. unfortunately the movie doesnt really explain it very well and people end up misinterpreting it.
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Here is what I like most about Friday the 13th: the setting

Having the movies (usually) take place at a Summer camp creates a real feeling of loneliness for the characters that movies like Halloween and Elm St don't. It's why the movies that don't tale place at Crystal Lake aren't as good
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Literally just watched the reboot last night again. So under rated and it's too bad it didn't get a sequel
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>>83691469

is that mike myers?
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>>83692270
It's Tina's dad in the alternate ending of Part 7
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>>83692096
Agreed. Especially the first two had that east coast aesthetic. It wasn't the same when they moved production to California.
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>>83684151

I'm still mad we never got a sequel
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>>83687719
>Why the fuck is it only multiplayer? The fuck happened to releasing lengthy and concise single-player games? Now it seems multiplayer is first and so games come out shit.
Because it's just another shitty run of the mill survival game you see released full of bugs and exploits on Steam early access every day. Only difference is this one cashes in on a well known horror film.

If you need an idea of how fucked this game is, Jason has powers and can literally teleport at will while you're looking at him.
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>>83692547
>dbd player this assblasted that his game got one-upped
Take it to /v/ you whiny cunt.
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>My thread spawned a general
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>>83692096
Well Halloween has it's own great vibe. Late autumn nights, cold wind blowing, rustling leaves on empty streets, jack o lanterns. Creepy shit.
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>>83690343
He's reading from a book.
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Hey op you got any other shit besides Friday the 13th
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>>83691979
How the hell could you misinterpret his fear of water? Also I hate the jacket look, jumpsuit or nothing.
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>>83690848
we're never going to see the restored versions of event horizon or predator 2 for the same reasons :(
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>>83693055

True and Halloween is great, but I think the setting is one thing F13 does better than other slashers
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>>83693211
It was back before there was a market for extended editions and shit.
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>>83691532
I know what you mean, but I can get reasonable sad if I think about any of the deaths hard enough.

>>83693083
Close enough. Is the book worth it?
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>>83693456
I'd skip it and just watch the documentary.
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>tfw you will never be as cool as The Duke
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how do you rankem
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>>83693908
>5 above anything
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Anyone who likes the Manhattan one or Jason x should be hunged
That being said number 4 was the best
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>>83693456
The book is great. It contains material and interviews not in the documentary along with tons of photos.
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>>83686968
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>>83693908

This is my ranking.

VI>III>IV>V>VII>VIII>IX>Remake>X>II>VS>I
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>>83688361
>>83688424
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>>83691157
>>83691260
>>83691469
jason and the dad
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I watched the first 3 and thought they were exactly the same, don't know if I should watch the others
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>>83693908
In order of what I'd rather watch

4 > 6 > 7 > 5 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 8 > Hell > X

I've seen the remake once and that was more than enough.
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A CUTE
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>>83687314
do you know what a lake is anon?
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>>83684789
You're deluded as fuck if you think Saw is the worst horror franchise. If Saw was made in the 80s it would be hailed as the greatest horror movie series of all time by you nostalgic loving faggots. I like F13 but daring to suggest Saw is the worst is asinine. They put way more effort into the Saw movies than the fucking F13 movies, that's for sure, they truly cared about entertaining you.

Not to mention you got garbage like Amityville Horror, Howling, Paranormal Activity, etc
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>>83685340
Jason vs godzilla when?
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>>83685340
They turned him into a weed farmer in the remake. The entire point of the movie was he kills the kids because they found his crop and they were going to steal it.
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>>83695322

What about Canals? Or Inlets? Or Fjords?
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>>83695707
>canals
water highways
>inlets
that's just the ocean
>fjords
made up commie nonsense
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>>83685558
Ok, you've said your piece. You don't like the game, now fuck off.
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>>83685283
That's a lie
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>>83686968
I loved Stan Winston, but this is definitely not his best work. Jason just looks like a pig-man in this pic.
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>>83689195
>fart head
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>>83693829
Is this the original aspect ratio?
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>>83694456
4 is the best, almost like a parody of the formula and it has crispin glover so at least check that one out
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Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Halloween are the only "slashers" that are also kino
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>>83694382
>>83686968
Why even change the face of part 2???
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>>83696149
>replying to a 8 hour old post

How much to you back the kickstarter for?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9gSjkLqDqw
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Can we talk about how friday the 13th is immensly superior to hellraiser
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>>83687644
>Woman is as sexy if not sexier 26 years after the film
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>>83684378
But they turned Jason into Michael as far back as Part 4.
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>>83688218
Is there one single guy in Hollywood that didn't rape Corey Haim?
I mean this guy must have been some whore he wasn't even handsome.
Why would people even rape him?
He must have been just a faggot
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>>83696603
If it's a case of Hellraiser 1 vs Friday the 13th part 1 you're delusional. The Hellraiser series fell a lot further F13 just went from bad to shit
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>>83690581
>>83690829
>>83690848
>>83691050
>>83693211
fucking jews
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>>83696603
Hellraiser only has 4 movies
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>>83696267
I remember this one! Some wop wouldn't stop fucking a chick because she consented at the start and said no halfway through, then he got his dago fingers cut off.
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>>83696579
Because different director's have different visions.
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>>83696179
Look into the archive nufag. September, October and November are always filled with slasher threads with the random out of season one here and there.
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>>83685558
>>83696582
Not that anon, but I saw streams of it and spent $40 on it.

I think it's a fun game, but depends on who you play with. I've had some very memorable moments and good laughs/scares.
>Be me
>Last counselor alive
>Police were called, wait at one of the two exits
>The police arrive at the other exit
>Slowly trek across the map to where the police are
>2/3rds on the way Jason arrives on the road
>Hits me with knife
>Shoot him with flare
>Run past him
>He throws another knife into my back
>Limping
>Can see police lights, they're within reach
>Start pleading with Jason on mic, desperate as FUCK
>He's right behind me swinging his axe
>Actually freaking the fuck out because of how close I am yet how slow I'm running
>Just as I'm about to reach them he hacks me to death from behind
>Once I die I hear the entire dead/escaped lobby go "AAAAWWWWW!"

It has flaws but it's fun as fuck, and a good social game with the pleading and begging.
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>>83696656
Friday 1 is great. It's the best one and aged like fine wine. Hellraiser one didn't. It's really good, but not as much.
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>>83696727
Your story has changed from
>F13 threas are very common
to
>Only on Halloween
So which is it?
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>>83696765
Friday 1 is a very dull film and an admitted Halloween rip-off, Part 3 is when Friday films started being entertaining
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>>83696766
I'm not the same guy. 3 months of almost daily threads out of 12 are not just Halloween. We have at least one thread a week the rest of the year just about Friday. We alos have general slasher/horror and specific Halloween movies, Hellraiser, Chainsaw, etc. ones.

Cry more. Then look into the archive.
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>>83696582
>Can talk to counselors over mic as Jason
>They smack your mask off
>"THAT IS EXTREMELY PAINFUL!"
>Come out of stun
>"FOR YOU"
>Window execution
>"PERHAPS YOU'RE WONDERING WHY SOMEONE WOULD HACK A MAN BEFORE THROWING HIM OUT OF A WINDOW!"
>Grab survivor
>"NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR FEAR"/"No one cared who I was until I put on the mask"
>Block their car
>"Uhh, you don't get to bring friends"/"Crashing this car.. with no survivors!"
>Execution
>"I was wondering what would break first! Your spirit.. or your body!"
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just got done watching the first 4 hours of that crystal lake documentary
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>>83696812
Halloween? Who said that? It's an edgier Psycho homage. Down to the fucking score.
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>>83696844
>WE HAD A FRIDAY THREAD LIKE 4 YEARS AGO THAT MEANS /f13g/ HAS ALWAYS BEEN A /tv/ TRADITION IT'S COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THE VIDEO GAME THAT JUST CAME OUT
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>>83696867
>Halloween? Who said that?
Sean Cunningham, He wanted to cash in. It's why there were full page FRIDAY THE 13TH ads when all they had was a title
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>>83696867
the creator himself
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I feel like I'm one of the only people in the world who liked Jason X.
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>>83696936
It's great, it's meant to be a ridiculous parody
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>>83696765
oh please
hellraiser is a great movie, friday the 13th is a flick
really, hellraiser 1 and 2 are above all fridays and above most slashers ans horror movies
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The butchered death scenes ruin these movies
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>literally the worst horror series
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>>83696883
You've also been the only one to mention the game
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>>83696267
Second time I seen this on /tv/ and now I really want to give it a shot. Torrent?
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>>83697185
>200 replies

meanwhile
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>>83684754
Shut the fuck up Kari
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i've never seen a friday the 13th movie before do i watch all of them in release order or are most of them shit?
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>>83697288
Yes. It's better than most Friday movies
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>>83696745
Sounds like a cringe fest
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>>83685219
>>83685386
>>83685558
>>83685854
>>83687719
>>83692547
>>83692830
>>83696149
>>83696582
>>83696745
>>83697220
>the game definitely isn't being discussed here
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>>83697320
Watch them in chronological order
6>7>8>9>2>1>3>4>5
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>>83697320
skip 1, 5, 8, 9, X
watch 2, 3, 4, 6, 7
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>>83697309
>most of the discussion is how mediocre these flicks are
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>>83692977
FLY TO THE MOON
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>>83697185
hellraiser after 4 is way worse
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>>83697384
>skip 1
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>>83697330
Pic related was the first I heard if it when some Anon posted it a year ago. I forgot the name, but this movie poster stuck in my head
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>>83697384
>Skip 8
Fuck you, I actually like 8
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>>83697400
Yeah but Hellraiser was good at one point Friday the 13th never was
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Why does everyone keep bringing up Hellraiser as a comparison?
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>>83696717
different ways of butchering consistency you mean
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>>83697410
I also like it, calm down but he doesnt need to seen it if he doesn't like the others
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>One critic (Gene Siskel) was so angry at Betsy Palmer's role in the movie (which had angered many of her fans), that he published her address in his magazine, and encouraged people to write her and protest her. He published the wrong address.
What did he mean by this?
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>>83688361
Her real life mom played Kristin's mom in Nightmare on Elm Street 3/4.
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The horror saga with the best ost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-yUxMly8Pg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf7uI0UZLc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHLQLkFU-pE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t-gouAAOzI
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>>83697411
I agree. It's akin to how star wars and star trek are never really compared just because.
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>>83697435
Yeah, because if there's one fault with the Friday franchise it's that it's not consistent enough
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>>83697482
Oops was for
>>83697427
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>>83697466
>Gene Siskel
>His parents were Russian Jewish immigrants.
never fails
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>>83697484
there's no need to change the apperence of the protagonist that much
like using a different jarvis in every movie too
if you can get the actor then don't use it
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>>83697497
But Hellraiser and F13 have nothing in common, why not compare it with Halloween?
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>>83686436

Freddy's origin movie could potentially be interesting if they created an interesting framing device around it.
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>>83688218
You'd find a shorter list of people NOT accused of raping Corey Haim. Kinda like the list of women NOT accusing Bill Cosby of assaulting them.
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>>83697384
>>83697452
Good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obtc9U6hEYM
Was it kino?
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>>83697288
it's on youtube
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Posting best girl
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>>83697531
No. I agree with you. Just because they're both horror doesn't mean the comparison should be made. Some anon above compared Jason to the Terminator which seems more fair.
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>>83684537
haloween was ok when it was british
the america took over and went to shit as usual
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>>83697540
I do like he didnt kill anyone in New York needlesly wich proves he's not just some psycho
he only kills those that enter crystal lake
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>>83697626
hellraiser I mean
>>83697614
qt
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>>83693908
This is reasonably close.
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>>83697089
>hellraiser 1 and 2 are above all fridays and above most slashers ans horror movies
You are so fucking wrong dude
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>>83697742
explain
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>>83697407
amazing poster

shame the movie isn't all that great
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>>83697774
Hellraiser takes a totally brilliant idea and makes it mediocre. F13th takes a mediocre idea and makes it fun schlock

The concept of Hellraiser is so fucking awesome but the films are an uninspired borefest
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>>83697859
hellraiser 2 is one of the greatest horror movies of all time. plebs rate hellraiser one because it's the original and they think slow burn automatically = good
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>>83697859
You should look into killing yourself.
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>>83697859
>Hellraiser takes a totally brilliant idea and makes it mediocre.
1 and 2 mediocre? fuck off really
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>>83697667
You know it.
Party 8 is the most FUN part
>qt Asian girl
>Black guy boxing Jason
>Slapstick scenes in New York
>Speargun
>>
Dr Chanard Frank Cotton Julia and Kristie >>>> all friday the 13th characters
This is a fact
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>>83697951
>Eva Watanabe
but her dead was shit with jason teleporting I mean they turned him in to a ghost instead of a zombie and I didn't like that
also his face is the worst with the elephant scream and turning into a kid
and the kid even changes appearence in every scene
it could've been so much better
tina should've come back instead of the forgetable girl and his useless bf
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>>83697960
Mike Garris >Eva Watanabe >>> all others
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>>83697999
I figured it was just the confusion of the room that made it seem like he was teleporting.
The elephant scream was eh but making Jason sympathetic in the movie where he has the most personality is fine by me.
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>>83698025
>I figured it was just the confusion of the room that made it seem like he was teleporting.
no just bad writing
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>>83684517
>The NYPD would be on his ass so fast that he'd be nothing but a greasy smear on the streets.

About an hour and a half after he kills them they finally show up, you forget New York was a massive shit hole for a long time. It has only been like the way it has now for under 20 years.

>>83687719
>Why the fuck is it only multiplayer?
It will get its single player later this year, they are still working on it. The Backers started foaming at the mouth and they got a little nervous since they didn't want them to pull the funds so they released the Multiplayer first. Sold WAY more then what they were ready for. they only estimated at 12K and they got close to 80K in the first week.
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>>83685887
>It makes absolute zero canon sense.
Then you don't know shit about Freddy.
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>>83690167
They should just to Freddy v Jason v Ash.
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>>83698563
>and Ash
literally why?
>>
Horror films that want you to root for the killer are retarded desu
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>>83684695
>>Puppet Master
>That's a film series I need to watch when I get the chance.

Good luck trying to make it past Part 5.
>>
Leprechaun>>>>>Friday the 13th
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>>83697655
But he kills at least three people in that movie who had nothing to do with Crystal Lake, and in previous movies too.
>>
Jason vs Maximum Overdrive
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>>83698563
based bruce said he'd only dfo it if he got to perma kill both and they cancelled it.
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>>83699674
Kramer vs Kramer vs Jason
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>>83698534
>>83686021
Exactly, he's on the water in every movie
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>>83699573
but they were on his way
>>83699311
tell me one in wich you don't root for the evil
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>>83699844
>Evil Dead
>Psycho
>Suspiria
>Night of the Living Dead
>Halloween
>Alien
>The Thing
Having your audience root for the killer removes any sense of horror, fear or terror, you've then failed at making a horror film
>>
>>83699915
But anon I root for the killer in those
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>>83699929
>not rooting for Ash in Evil Dead
at first you were edgy, now you're retarded
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>>83699970
Why should I? He's a fucking white male
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>>83699970
>rooting for le randum faces overacting guy
>not supporting based sumerian demons
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>>83699929
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>>83700048
this, ash should be a bi disabled woman of color who fucks right wingers to death with a BBC dildo grafted to her arm
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>favorite kills? always loved this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Ewb3MojAs
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>>83697331
>cringe
Get out reddit
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Is Hodder's autobiography worth reading? Does he reveal anything interesting from being Jason (besides pissing in his victim's trailers)?
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>Just watched V for the first time
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>>83702808
Tina's the only redeeming feature of that movie.
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>>83685294
So he was like a dog basically?
>>
Should I bother seeing Jason X
Everyone says it's schlock
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>>83702929
It's great schlock.
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>>83702808
>>83702876

Jason's absence in V makes you appreciate his return in VI all the more. So I guess that's a benefit.

And the bodycount was pretty high.
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>>83703133
So wait...it's been ages since i've seen these movies...Jason wasn't in V?
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>>83703133
The body count fact is dragged down by the fact that almost all the kills were just copies of ones Jason had already done and were boring.

But yes, it does make you appreciate 6 more.
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>>83703145
The father of the fat retard who gets killed early in the movie is the killer.
>>
>>83703145

no, it adult Tommy was from movie 4, but not Jason. revenge flick and killer uses Jason as a cover.

I'm literally fucking old, even when this film was released people dismissed it since it wasn't vorhees.
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>>83703182
>>83703187
God damn that sounds terrible. I watched these movies back in the 80s when i was a little kid so i don't remember all the details. Thanks.
>>
>>83703145
>>83703182
>>83703187

It's not even very good as part of the "Tommy Trilogy" because Tommy is absent through 85% of the movie (they wanted to make him a red herring as the copycat killer, so he had to be mysteriously absent whenever something happened).

That and a false flag ending that Part VI doesn't followup on.
>>
This seems like a good thread to ask - as it happens, I'm going to be doing some original Friday the 13th artwork.

If it were up to you, would you guys prefer a specific Jason from a specific movie, or an amalgam of various Jasons? In other words, movie-specific art, or just "Jason" in general, incorporating some stuff from various movies?

Curious to hear some opinions.
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>>83703244
Going into 6 it's pretty clear that they knew 5 was a mistake and were just completely ignoring it. New actor for Tommy, he acts completely different, ignores the ending of 5.
>>
>>83703244
I think Tommy as a red herring worked well, as a plot device - but the actual story and reveal was stupid, and it just wasn't a very good movie. And yeah the ending was just kinda "huh?".

Worth seeing for Tina though.
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>>83703270
Jason in general. I would be actually more interested in an original Jason design.

Just try not to over do it, like Tom Savini did.
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>>83702876
tina is in vii

tomy should've been the killer in v
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>>83703373
I mean this Tina
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Why all the hate for the remake? It seems well made and had decent kills. Story was lacking I guess.
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>>83703427
It's not great but it's pretty decent, especially considering the current state of the horror genre, I think.
>>
>>83703427
It's the least bad of the modern horror remakes, I will give it that.
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>>83703427

It was fine, but that's all. Fine.

The down-to-earth kills were boring coming off all the over-the-top stuff from the Zombie Jason era. After seeing characters get stuffed in sleeping bags and whacked against trees, folded in half, and hand their faces dunked in liquid nitrogen and smashed on a table, an axe to the back doesn't seem very exciting.
>>
>>83703427
I don't know. I like my Jason as an unstoppable force of nature not as some inbred hillbilly collecting qts.

There are some GOAT tits worth watching in that though.
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tfw too smart to swim
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>>83703270

Do whatever you want, just don't forget to put the axe mark in the top of the hockey mask.

I hate it when people don't do that.
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>>83684318
>Paranormal Activity
>The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
>Hellraiser
>Halloween
There are worse horror franchises, you clown.
>>
>>83703539
Kek

>>83703556
Right, continuity.

>>83703368
Interesting, thanks. I've been leaning towards going the amalgam route. Trying to incorporate a bunch of cool shit into one nice image.
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>>83693908
6 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 3 > 7 > 5 > 8 > X > Goes to Hell
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>>83703657
>Interesting, thanks. I've been leaning towards going the amalgam route. Trying to incorporate a bunch of cool shit into one nice image.
That sounds cool. My favorite personal traits are black, hollow eyes and the neck chain if that helps.

Also, the machete. Some people like the axe but to me it's the machete.

Be sure to post it when you're done.
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>>83703737
I personally think the axe is better for human Jason while the machete is better for demon Jason. Not sure why, just always felt that way.
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I still wish they'd either leave Nightmare on Elm street alone or make it really good. Like just make a cinematic universe with Jason and Freddy, its already cannon seeing how they had a movie together. Make a good Jason movie, have the ending be a teaser for a good Elm Street movie. Then continue to pump out Jason movies, because they are campy fun.
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>>83703802
Also hearing rumors of a good Chucky movie, wich would be cool.
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>>83703802
Sad thing about the NoES series is that the movies are shit without either Wes Craven's or Robert Englund's involvement.

And one's dead and the other retired so...
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>>83693908
In order of personal enjoyment

4>6>7>2>3>1>5>X>8>FvJ>Remake>9
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>>83703855
True, it was very apparent in the reboot of NoES that its difficult to capture Robert Englund's performence as Freddy. I also miss the gorey deaths and the humor, even tho there's that dark side of Freddy literally being a pedophile burned to death.
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>>83703922
>Pick the guy who played Rorschach to be Freddy
>"Hey I can really stretch my acting talents instead of just doing grizzly low voiced characters all the time"
>No thanks, please just do your Rorschach voice for the whole movie
>mfw
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what baffles me the most about Jason X is the fucking David Cronenberg
is he a fan of the series or what?
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>>83704048
he likes to act like in nighbreeds
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>>83703922
>>83703987
Yeah, if you watch the Never Sleep Again documentary, you can see how important Robert Englund is to the Freddie part. The minute they used a stand-in in part 2 i think, the movie went to shit and they HAD to go beg Englund to return because something as easy as walking proved impossible for the replacement.

His voice, mannerisms and overall body acting are what made the character great in the first place. Jackie Earle is a good actor but he lacked everything that made Freddie great.
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>>83703229
jason not being the killer isnt really a big deal
ending is weird, but it's only the last couple minutes
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>>83704142
>Jackie Earle i
who was the other fredie
the one in the second movie?
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>>83704257
Is that the movie with the girl running around with a chainsaw in a soaked white shirt?

On a side note, I kinda liked the 2009 reboot certainly better than some of the shit that came before it.
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>>83704341
Just some other guy they got after Englund dropped out because they didn't give him more money iirc. They filmed a couple scenes with the guy before realizing they were shit, scrapped them and convinced Englund to return and reshoot everything.
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....He looks like Sloth.
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>>83703987
I kinda sorta liked the Nightmare remake. It had some decent ideas and Rorschach could have been a great Freddy. But as you said, "no just be shit". He could've really hammed it up and it would've been fantastic. Freddy will always be my favourite Slasher because he has character that Jason just doesn't. Jason has more presence, Freddy always gets the better kills though.

I need to rewatch the F13 films, I've seen 1-8 I think but it was so long ago that they've all merged into one weird conglomerate. I remember not liking the Psychic one though. Or the copycat killer, that was pretty weak.
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>>83704481
>Sloth looks like Jason
ftfy
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>>83703737
Thanks for posting that image, I'm a fan of that look as well (and the machete). To me it's more iconic. I'm envisioning Jason standing in a forest clearing, machete in hand, with some Crystal Lake imagery and possibly a victim or two. It's going to be in the style of a movie poster.

Since it's likely going to be a blend of various Jason stuff, does Jason holding his mother's head make sense? Or does that make it seem like he just beheaded his own mother?

>>83703755
I was thinking of doing a variant with hooded Jason or a variant with an axe.
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>>83704744
>Since it's likely going to be a blend of various Jason stuff, does Jason holding his mother's head make sense?
No since he worshipped her.
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>>83703703
This is a pretty good ranking although I don't quite get the love for VI. I thought it was just ok.
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>>83704744
That makes it seem like he beheaded Pamela. Maybe have the tree-stump there or something. Or put her head on the bonnet of a car with the headlights on, showing Jason?
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>>83704840
Those are good ideas, thanks. I wanted the head in there but I wasn't sure if having Jason holding it was the way to go.
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>>83704744
Have the shrine somewhere on the back, that would look cool
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New thread when...this one's already hit the bump limit
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I'd like to see a part 9 face and mask with the body of part 7 with the chain and in Manhattan
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>>83705374
New thread

>>>83705537
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>>83696498
>implying part 2 isn't Kino as fuck
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