any good movies about this guy taking cuba back for the people.

Che
Che (Part 2)

>>83679218
The Steven Soderburg Che with Benicio Del Toro

>>83679245
>>83679251
So Kino that it's allowed on Cuba.

I saw Che part 1, but I never really felt a connection to his motivations or how he really got started. It was just hopping around from forest to forest. Admittedly there's some cute scenes of him, but nothing really gripping.

>>83679218
first world war started with 20 dudes in a cafe.

not that impressive

>>83679312
>he needs to feel identified/connected
ultimate pleb test

>>83679314
Not really, WW1's story is far more convoluted than that. Che's motivation was bloodshed and genocide but what he did was remarkable with how little resources they had.

>>83679312

It's more about Ernesto himself than his motivations. They never talk about how he went to Peru and saw a lot of poverty. He became a socialist after that.

Part 2 is better. You are going to see some shit.

Motorcycle Diaries is also good but the fucking actor who plays him has a punchable face.

>>83679473
>was bloodshed and genocide
Kek, is this what they teach in USA schools?

Pretty sure you think Castro was a communist and the revolution was about communism.

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mfw Malick was going to direct the aforementioned Che movie but he dropped out

>>83679504
Tell me the truth anon I want to hear it.

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>>83679473
>Che's motivation was bloodshed and genocide

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>>83679218
>leftist white kids love this dude

Really makes you think.

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>>83679218
against all odds! huh, interesting

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>commies

I'd rather have a movie about this guy

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>>83679739
just a ragtag bunch of occult Jewish puppets

>>83679707
He wrote that when he was like 21, way before becoming a communist. As if everyone here doesn't make nigger jokes or whatever

>>83679745
>someone actually spent hours drawing this

It's hard to portray the human side of historical people, especially ideological leaders. I guess he wasn't really that exactly, but who he was and what he stood for has been so convoluted, I'm sure it would be difficult to really make a realistic portrayal of him. Che and Che Pt II did a good job of portraying what he did, I think it's ultimately up to the viewer to see how those actions might have lead him.

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>commies

>>83679245
i don't even give a fuck about che IRL but these movies are masterpiece war films can't reccomend them enough

>>83679745
2edgy4me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRQry89ZcQk

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This guy would be great for a biopic

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Any good movies about this guy getting put down like a dog in a hut in the middle of the Bolivian jungle?

>>83679670
The Che wanted to install socialism, Castro was nationalist. Raul Castro was a commie.

Fidel Castro had to go commie otherwise the USA would have invaded Cuba.

El Che then got mad at Fidel for being too authoritarian (Fidel wasn't the president initially) so he went to make revolutions all around the world. He went to Africa and failed. Then to Bolivia and he go killed.

The stories about him being an executioner during the revolution are true though.

>>83679847
Che part two

>>83679847
>her daughter is some random whore who posed with cuban revolutinary clothes while showing her cleavage

He must be rolling in his grave.

>>83679844
This guy is a dumbass. There are 3 million drug addict because people are trying to escape the reality of living in a shithole country

>>83679245
these two are legitimately fantastic, only reason not to see them is if you're a cuban ex-pat who goes into trigger meltdown the moment you see che or castro

>>83680150

You call him a dumbass, he cleaned up the streets through forced rehabilitation. Talk to any native there or someone who has flip family.

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> taking Cuba back for the people

there was literally nothing wrong with being a commie back in the 60s

all you /pol/ edgy faggots don't even deserve a (you) from me

>>83680323
You left-wing-leaning parasite. You expect me to sit here and listen to your drivel?

>>83679841
>intellectual intelligence
gets me everytime
pretty much describes every fag ITT

>>83680440
Yes. Now give me a (you).

>>83680514
(You)

Here have two, since you like to share the wealth

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>>83679866
Che was a hardcore Stalinist, the notion that he would oppose Fidel for being "too authoritarian" is laughable.

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>>83680566
Good man.

>>83680600
My grandfather once had to translate for Che Guevarra because he was passing through the airport of his home country basically at the same time the US was trying to snatch him up while Castro was blocking his reentrance into Cuba.

He actually only ended up in Africa because he had no choice but to be redirected there to avoid NATO jurisdiction.

>>83680600
>stalinist

Ayy lmao. He wanted real socialism but since he went full "muh world revolution" I doubt he was stalinist. Why did he oppose Fidel then?

Remember Fidel was doing lots of socialist reforms like sending ALL cubans to harvest crops (it failed catastrophically).

>>83680657
>"My duty as a Marxist-Leninist Communist is to expose the reactionary tendencies of historical revisionism, opportunism and Trotskyism and teach Comrades (both in act and in power) that they should not accept as valid the attacks against Stalin made by these bourgeois social-democrats and other pseudo-communist reactionaries. These traitors' real purpose is to dynamite and destroy the labor movement from within."

This is a quote by Che in 1966, shortly before his death.

He was a completely dogmatic Stalinist.

>Why did he oppose Fidel then?

He didn't?

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>>83679218
there is this anecdote not about Che but about Castro, immediately after their landing on Cuba almost all their men were dead by Batista's army, so only a few survivors were crawling day and night from the shores to the jungle and then to the mountains, and there is this survivor (that in that long journeys crawling to avoid being seeing by the search patrols of Batista's army) who was crawling near Castro and he remembers that when they stop crawling to take a rest Castro always started talking about the things they will do in the future when they can finally overthrow Batista, Castro talked about free schools, universal medical coverage and other things... and this guy rememebers thinking that Castro was just crazy being almost defeated and barely surviving, whit almost all his men dead at the very moment of the landing and he was thinking in what they will do after the victory when the rest of his surviving mates were thinking in just reach the mountains and not being killed.

>people still ignore that the U.S. government supported the rebels against Batista and pretend they won otherwise

>>83680755
>shortly before his death

In Bolivia? I thought he said something about his wife.

>being anti revisionist is being stalinist

Also he probably supported Stalin because he actually did socialist reforms like collectivization, something Fidel almost did before he realised it was retarded.

>He didn't?

So you are saying it was Fidel who was against Che then. This is pretty much what most people believe but I'm not quite sure why he would do that. I've even being told Fidel sent Che to Bolivia because of this.

Not trying to troll or something I don't know why Fidel opposed him.

>>83680914
I don't know about any rift between Fidel and Che, my understanding was always the same as the "official history", that Che wanted to fight for revolutionary causes worldwide, and Fidel let him go.

>>83679745
Does he get Reddit access in jail?

>>83680905
do you actually believe this?
is this actually what you think happened?
lmao

>>83679218
Friendly reminder that this commie murderer from Argentina took Cuba back several decades and made the island into a communist prison, and he died a coward and failed revolutionary in South America. The same fate is deserved of all commies and sympathizers.

>>83681180
This desu. Only edgy white kids love Che. All Cubans hate him and and the Castros. That said the Che movies are brettty good.

t. Son of an expat.

>>83680150
>shithole country
Manilla was pretty chill in the 90's for an expat.

>>83681224
why then on cuba do they have so much che and castro shit everywhere? would cuba have been better off with batista staying in power?

>>83681321
Because they have no other choice cock nose.

>>83680613
Is that just a really puffy pussy, or is that a cock bulge?
You know what, it doesn't matter I wanna fugg it.

>>83680914
>Not trying to troll or something I don't know why Fidel opposed him.
Because he was a contender for power. The kind of guy you don't want to keep around after you acquire said power.
So you encourage him to continue the revolution, way the fuck over there.