>beats the bad guy by annoying the shit out of him Marvelfags

laughing at all the money marvel wasted on vfx for this shit movie

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>>83573575
So he's pretty much Frisk the Superhero?

>plebs getting buttblasted the climax didn't resolve with shooty pew pew for the 28930420934802934th time and did something different

fucking lmfao

It was clever and had cool fx, way better than Russoshit, at this point they're the only really bad cape directors

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>beats the bad guy by committing murder

Real inspiring hero you DCucks got there

Worse than Iron Man 3

It was literally the only good part of that movie

>>83574480
>wastes Mandarin because magic is too unrealistic
>final bad guy is human bonfire
Then dr strange came out. Remember when Thor was super advanced technology now it's just space magic again

Why didn't Dormammu just kill everyone after Strange let him out of the loop?

He used the only thing he could to beat a god, so.

>>83573575
And yet it was still literally the best capeshit released in the last five years.

>>83574480
>Worse than Iron Man 3

No shot. The only redeeming thing about that flick was Kingsley, Strange told a better, still average, story in a more visually interesting way.

Makes sense. Dormammu is a cosmic world that has control over multiple UNIVERSES. He's oddly obsessed with earth but he's got bigger fish to fry at all times.

The only real hope you have of "defeating" him is making it slightly not worth his time.

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>>83574692
Decent bait

>>83573575
I know right? Where was the giant blue laser into the sky and a portal with a horde of CGI mooks coming out of it?

...This thread is bait isn't it?

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>>83574459
(((murder)))
that was the point, he was forced to kill the last of kin with his bare hands in order to protect the people he swore to die for

>>83573606

>laughing at a company that's laughing it's way to the bank with WAY more in profit than they used on VFX

i'm LMAOing at your life

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>lol I hate superhero movies they're so dumb and gay and fuck you fuck you FUCK FUCK YOU FUUUUCCKKKK

>but I still somehow know every detail of every scene in every capeshit - even the ones that are just coming out

If you hate why do you watch it. That's the logical equivalent of bashing your forearm up with a hammer for the sole reason that you find it extremely painful.

4 chan

>>83573575
i really liked this movie, probably one of the best from marvel

>>83574429

Winter Soldier was better than this "dude Beyonce lmao" LOOK AT THE FRACTALS BRO crap

>>83573575
XD LE FOUND AN ALTERNATE SMART WAY TO SAVE THE DAY LMAO

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>>83573606
Those mirror dimension scenes were beautiful though.

Like Inception cranked up.

>>83573575
That's what we do with you every day.

>>83573575
Final battle was the best scene in capekino yet. It's too bad the rest of the movie was so average.

Its fine if you didn't enjoy the film, but the first 20 minutes were stellar and the final plot resolution is absolutely like something in a cosmic comic

>>83573575
It was the only route they could have gone since they decided to have Dormammu as the villain.

Dormammu is one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe, and it would have been absolutely retarded if Strange, as a beginning sorcerer, would have been able to stop him in direct combat. Having Dormammu effortlessly slaughter Strange repeatedly until he just got tired and went home is the only resolution that would have made sense.

Really, they should have just picked a lesser villain for Strange's first movie. Dormammu was a bit much

dropped acid and it was the most amazing movie i've ever seen. supreme sorcerer chicks' eyes look aliens, the followers eyes looked like glowing galaxies, all the inception effects multiplied/kaleidoscoped 10x over. 12/10 experience

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>Dormammu...I've come to quip!

What did he meme by this?

>>83574459
>To everyone saying Superman should have done something else or that the family should have run away instead of standing there:

It was never about that single family. It was about Superman realising at that point that if he didn't kill Zod people would keep dying since he was never going to stop. That family is just a representation of all humanity who would all die if Supes didn't kill Zod. He had no other choice. It's as simple as that.

Save that family by taking Zod away or covering his eyes (both of which were already shown to impossible previously through other scenes like Supes burning Faora's hand through armor with his heat vision and Zod being an equal match for Supes), and it would change nothing. Zod would find more people to attack and then then more and more till all of humanity was wiped out.

Even if Supes took him to the Moon or knocked him out, Zod would eventually return and continue his destruction and killing. He says this clearly in the movie many times "Either you die or I do", "Never", "I will take every one of these humans from you" etc.

How is this so difficult for people to understand? The choice was never in Superman's hands, he HAD to kill Zod to save 7 billion people. It's a realistic consequence of a realistic movie. There was no Phantom Zone anymore to cleanly tie things up and I'm glad they showed what would really happen if Supes had an equally matched unstoppable opponent whom he had no way of stopping other than killing him.

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You marvelfags really are the worst

YA IT NEEDED A GIANT WORLD ENDER MACHINE WITH ALIEN PODS AND EVERYONE HAS TO KICK SOME ASS

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>human being has more patience than a God that eats planets or whatever

>>83575716
Why didn't he simply poke out Zod's eyes?

>its another manchildren debate capeshit seriously episode

>>83576350

>human being =/= wizard

>>83576374

>WAHHHHHHH MUH BORING BLACK AND WHITE FRENCH FILM AND FORTY YEAR OLD DRY SHIT, IM FROM REDDIT AND I ONLY WATCH KINO. MUH BOARD

Fuck off faggot. Don't reply.

>>83576350
>set up: movie established protagonist has a lot of dedication for anything he puts his mind to it, like medicine
>pay-off: his dedication is enough to outlast a god

hmmm... film making is difficulty to understand

>>83573575
I didn't see it as annoying, I saw it as sort of holding him hostage. Dormammu couldn't do anything about the time spell that was cast. I thought it was a pretty great "final fight".

>>83573575
Would you prefer if there was an epic laser-beam-in-the-sky battle?

>>83577002
Yes

>>83573575

>Marvelfag here

That was way more than annoyance. They showed the first few years of annoyance.

>>83573575
You say that like its a bad thing. I thought it was a pretty clever way instead of the typical superhero climax which is just punching and explosions.

>>83575716
MCUcks can't think figuratively. They are too autistic to understand the metaphors, analogies, symbolism and metaphysics of films presented in Snydervision.

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>>83577630

>>83577084
This was my only complaint about it, it was pretty poorly conveyed how long they were stuck in a loop together.

>>83576465
>set up: movie established that this is a god, greater being, so powerful that it is beyond time, that it eats worlds
>pay-off: god has intelligence of a human child, easily outwitted because waaahhhh time is hard

Why would a mortal being have more patience than a god? And how can a god exist and eat worlds without time? Where did all those planets come from? Were they all there instantly and always, or were they collected one by one...progressively...over time?

>>83574354
Dance off

What's wrong with this move?

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>>83573575
Better than the usual standard keep punching him and throwing things at him until some bullshit happens that eventually breaks the stalemate. It was actually pretty clever avoiding the usual CGI punchathon and instead defeating him with intelligence, trapping him in a time warp. Villain wasn't interesting, but the finale was nice for subverting expectations.

>>83577051
then go watch Wonder Woman, sounds like your kind of movie

>>83573575
Constantine would and probably has pulled this shit to

>>83578006
Dormammu doesn't eat world. His domain consumes universes. He doesn't actually do it himself.

>>83578223

Strange was pretty bad at establishing Dormammu.

>>83573575
Strange had its own set of problems, but that final "battle" was not one of them.

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>>83575712
>>83576350

Imagine having lived through 1 million groundhog days vs waiting to see how long it takes for a guy going through groundhog day for the very first time takes to snap. Yes, you could probably wait him out.... but do you really want to have to deal with groundhog day that many times to actually "win"?

>>83578273
>Strange was pretty bad
Yeah

>>83575716
Holy shit, this. It actually frustrates me that people still bring this moment up and make it about Supes killing like he was a goddamned lunatic.

>>83574525
This. The movie bored the shit out of me, but the climax tried to do something interesting at least

I know, right? Fucking stupid ending. Would have been better if it had ended with a laser sky beam surrounded by debris while he and his friends fight a CGI army of monsters.

>>83576350
Said god had no concept of linear time or anything requiring patience until this obnoxiously persistent motherfucker shows up with an infinity stone to force the concept on his dimension.

>>83575647
Agreed

>>83575647
Plus is reinforces the idea that Strange thinks outside the box

>>83575334
>hurrr lets just mirror the horizon instead of actually taking the time to fold it over on top of eachother like inception did 10 years ago even though we have better technology now

>>83580030
>mad that something called the mirror dimension made mirror images instead of warped reality in some other way

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>>83580030

>>83580096
just because its called the mirror dimension doesnt mean the director cant use his creativity/imagination to actually make it more interesting.

folding the city would have looked allot cooler than just mirroring the image which anyone can do in mspaint

>>83574354
Better than Dr strange and the evil dimension having the same mothers name.

>>83575716
>tl:Dr

Tell all of that, all of it, to zod's snapped neck

>>83576363
Underrated kek

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>>83577630
Whoa, I mean, like, what could Snyder have meant by this? Dude, this is so surreal.

>>83576350
>83574525
>>83576465
>>83578377
I thought strange wasnt actually remembering the loop much just going off of how frustrated mamu was

>>83574459
What's your point? Any given Marvel hero has murdered around ten times the amount of people on-screen as Batman and Superman combined.

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>Defeats villain with the power of love

>>83575716
You know what the best part is? If Superman had thrown Zod into an explosion or into the sun or any other """"indirect"""" method of killing him rather than snapping his neck, which is so "le realistic and dark and scarrryyyy" then the Marvelshills would have no problem with it. Whatever happened, Superman had to kill Zod, but it's not the fact that he did it that upsets them, it's the method. You know how many fucking people Iron Man has killed in equally gruesome fashion? He didn't lay a hand on them, he just fried their organs inside out and left them to bleed out in agony while he quipped and flew away. But just because Superman was forced to kill somebody for the sake of saving seven billion lives, and because we get to actually see and even sympathize with the person he kills, Supes catches flak for it. You retards literally can't refute this.

I still don't get how a being that exists in a dimension without time can make actions in a chronological order. Doormemeoo clearly hadn't just started eating planets, nor was he finished. The process was clearly bound to time in the dimension Earth exists in, but even in Door's dimension there was a TIME when he had all the planets before Earth, and had Strange not interfered, there would have been a TIME after when Earth would've joined his collection, a time BEFORE whichever planet he or his dimension would eat NEXT.

Fuck your dogshit movie that makes no sense and tries to hide behind concepts the writers were too stupid to portray.

>>83583799
Which one of those heroes is supposed to be an embodiment of hope for the human race to follow?

>>83583799
Marvel super heroes are supposed to be inherently flawed by design.

DC super heroes are supposed to be perfect mary sues.

>>83583885
omfg the fucking cringe, I can't handle it, sb help me, this is pathetic

>>83580390
if he actually folded the city then you'd be whining that he copied inception

>>83575716
>zod destroyed the entire fucking city
>sky is red, literally looks like the apocalypse is happening

>superman only realizes Zod wants to kill everyone on Earth when he threatens to kill a mexican family

Really makes you think

>>83583885
i hope you realize that its illegal to record the movie on your phone dude..if anyone saw you they could report you and you would get a huge fine, possible jail time and banned from the theater for life.

not only that your a dick for not turning off your phone before the movie starts. do you not read the warnings they show on the screen beforehand or what?

>>83588016
shut up virgin
t. not the anon you were replying to

>>83580205
I find it very funny that you have such an image saved in your pc

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We beat you DCucks into tears by annoying you while we sat back and laughed over the past few years. They put it in the movie as a nod to us always winning.

>>83573575
Why couldn't Dormammu undo that time loop magic?

>>83587713
And if he actually copied inception you'd still pretend it's "beautiful though"

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>>83580390
>Just because it's called the MIRROR dimension doesn't mean it should have MIRROR images

I get that the effect in Inception is more interesting and technically more impressive, but just admit that you didn't think your complaint through mate.

>>83573575

Literally everyone I ever talked with about this movie loved that scene. It was smart, funny and looked great.

Meanwhile you autists masturbate to Batman hitting Superman in the head with dirty sink.

The ending was clever actually, and ended more interesting than most

My issue was the lack of any real magic, a couple glowing whips and shit, also everyone using the omnitool from mass effect for melee... how is that sorcery, that aint dr strange nigga

>>83584028
how the hell are those indirect ways of killing somebody, it's unconventional but not indirect

Did you also think that Batman didn't kill people in the Dark Knight trilogy because they only "indirectly" died when Bats set the ninja hideout ablaze, blew up the train controls or knocked Harvey off a three story building and shot at Talia's truck with military grade aircraft?

>>83574897
>the people he swore to die for
Too bad his father wasn't one of those total strangers.

>>83589641
His dimension has no concept of time so he's not very good with time magick. Also Strange's artifact eye thingy had an infinity stone, which is A Big Deal.

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>>83578006
He's from another dimension and not on the same plane of existence as humankind, it's explained in the films. Once the protective tower gets knocked down we start to see that his dimension is seemingly infinite like ours and exists alongside our own. so time exists in our dimension but not his. in order to spread, he has to enter into ours and pull whatever planet into his own.

so yeah Strange was willing to suffer eternally and Dormannu saw that. I don't see what's so odd about that considering the entire film is about his transformation into a totally selfless superhero.

>>83583730
There's a cut line where Strange actually mentions how many loops he's been through, forget how many but I think it was over 1,000. It was thought it was a little too dark to indicate just how long he'd been suffering for.

I think it was a missed opportunity to show Strange power-levelling his ability to cast magic. Show his first attempts at shielding barely lasting seconds, then have a later one last longer. Have him barely deflect any spikes, then have him smack them away with growing ease.

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>>83573575
He's not an overpowered Gary-Sue Ubermench like the Murderer of Steel, anon.

>>83574579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbsRfRmL5Kc

>>83578273
>I didn't pay attention during the talky bits.
Fixed.

>>83583885
Oh man, I can totally see how this got a near 100 percent RT score.

>>83578006
Did Strange actually experience/remember each incarnation? Or did he go in once knowing he'd likely die but to not compromise until he'd won so the last survivor just experienced it once but Doramammu got to experience it every time.

That was my read on it anyway. It's why he said the same thing every time when he restarted.

>>83574594
He's an unbelievably powerful cosmic being that is beyond intelligent, but word is bond nigga.

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>>83590317
>I think it was a missed opportunity to show Strange power-levelling his ability to cast magic. Show his first attempts at shielding barely lasting seconds, then have a later one last longer. Have him barely deflect any spikes, then have him smack them away with growing ease.

/tv/ once again comes up with better ideas than a team of overpayed capeshit writers.

>>83578006
>what is space time
Everything is relative.

>>83590317
>>83590615
That's not really a great idea if you consider Dormammu's power level. The point isn't that Strange can get better at magic through the loops and eventually stand toe to toe with Dormammu.

Also this is probably true: >>83590551

>>83583885
>KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAA

>>83575716
>There was no Phantom Zone anymore to cleanly tie things up and I'm glad they showed what would really happen if Supes had an equally matched unstoppable opponent whom he had no way of stopping other than killing him.

Funny because that was the original ending

>>83574459
How is that murder? If Zod wasn't so insistent on killing those innocent people with his eye lasers then superman wouldn't have had to stop him by snapping his neck.

Murder would be like if Zod surrendered and said "Alright, you got me, please don't kill me!" and supes just executed him in cold blood anyway

>>83574991
>extremely painful

>>83573575
Why didn't the god guy just torture him and not kill him? The wizard would have tapped out immediately I reckon.

dormammu is one of the strongest fictional 'things' in marvel, he's stronger than an abstract like Eternity

you can't beat him with power, or with spells, it has to be a logical gimmick

the fact that someone doesn't like logic or reason or tricks makes me despair, these movies truly are made for baboons

>>83587951
>he saved us!

>>83592613
I actually give this movie props for combining both a mind trick to win as well as still having a fight finale against the main baddy and still keeping everything cohesive

it's probably the most complex marvel movie made to date though that's not saying much, also because it recycled a good chunk of the Iron Man origin story

>>83593158
TBF, the origin story from the movie was pretty damn accurate to the comics. Strange is, at the root of it all, pretty much Tony Stark if he found out how to use magic instead of making the Iron Man suit.

Wait so if Strange can rewind time, why cant he just fix his arms by rewinding time on them? Or revive his master?

I didn't get why he had to choose between using magic on his arms and casting spells. Can he just not do it together or something?

>>83573575
I actually liked that ending. It wasn't just a generic smashy-smashy building-fall-over ending that most Marvel films do (most blockbusters in general, really).
He trapped him and defeated him with will. I liked that.

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>Could've gotten some really interesting visuals like this
>Got boring generic Inception mirrored building bullshit instead

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>>83596241
>implying the movie did not have interesting visuals
they *did* incorporate the most of that stuff from the comic in the movie, just not all in one frame at the same time. You see different parts from that panel in all the different dimensions as he's being warped across them by the Ancient one

>>83588016
>banned from the theater for life.
Like that is even a loss, movie theaters have gone to complete shit.

>>83596906
mad cause you cant go anyways due to the no singles policy?

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>>83573575
>THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOUD 30 MINUTE FIGHT SCENE WITH ELECTRICITY AND DUBSTEP

>>83583885

>people actually paid to watch this shit

Fuck.

hurr durr the only way to win in life is to beat the other into a bloody pulp

>>kindergarteners will defend this

>>83574897
>(((murder)))
What did he mean by this

He made taking earth too much of a hassle to do.

Making the enemy believe too frustrated by the idea works too but I guess all the super hero movies have to be 5,000 on 5 fights against disposable armies.

>>83600815
with return of the mack

So is nothing bad if you can think of an example that's worse? The movie was dumb and the writing was bad, but all anyone can say is "well it's better than just some generic big fight".

Yeah, trash is better than shit, but it's still trash. Trash that could've been something better. Do you dumb fucks have no standards or are your peanuts actually stimulated by these shallow ideas?

>>83602728
You can ignore all the reasons people gave as to why they did like it, that's fine

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>>83573575
That's pretty much how Dr Strange beats his enemies. He finds loopholes in the laws of the cosmos to punch way above his weight. He's like one of those autists that knows all the rules.

>>83574354
>plebs
>buttblasted
so new it hurts

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>>83573575

Why didn't Dormammu just torture him mercilessly in disgustingly painful and insane ways until he gave up instead of killing him right away every time?

>>83573606
>/tv/ hates a good movie

Why am I not surprised

>>83574354
This, kek

>>83576374
>calling people manchildren while posting on a Nepalese tantric sculpture board

Wew lad

>>83603128
Welcome redditor, enjoy your stay

>>83603891
Because driving him insane would leave him unable to provide the way out.

why didn't killing strange break the spell?

>>83573575
Well ya. He's a new sorcerer hopelessly outclassed against Dormammu. There is no direct confrontation victory. He outwitted him and beat him that way.

It also established Dr. Strange's power-level since Thanos is coming.

>>83604208
magic

>>83573575
Groundhog Day and the episode of Pepper Ann that was based on it, proved that making a cunt relive the same day over and over will eventually make them a better person.

It's not an original idea, but it's tried and tested.

>>83604038
I didnt say drive him insane I said torture hum in insane ways you autist. There's a difference.

>>83604208
Strange disabled the auto-save

>>83589840
I agree, I'm not too familiar with the character outside the movie but I would've liked more occult weirdness instead of fighting

>>83604236

Yeah at first I was thinking there is no way a mere mortal like Agamatto could make a spell that powerful until they revealed it was an infinity stone.

>>83589840
Disney can't into magic. They fucked up Scarlet Tits too

>>83579124
no one in this thread nor in the movie making for that matter had any idea of what time actually means, much less how a system would work without it

>>83590355
>gary sue
its gary stu

also superman is not a gary stu
the concept of a mary sue of gary stu is better exemplified by rey on the new star wars
she is not all powerful like superman, she just has the favor of the gods or writters
superman doesnt have that, he is just all powerful and yet the writters still can manage to give him flaws and even be defeated

this is not to wage in in the marvelfags vs dcucks fight, its just to point out how you are wrong

>>83595532
It's either:
>rewinds time on arms
>risks losing arms
or
>rewinds time on whole body
>memory loss
>possibly can't stop rewinding after he forgets magic
>breaks reality or simply dies

>>83573575
>beats the bad guy by annoying the shit out of him
thats spiderman in a nutshell

>>83604691
I'm >>83584762, and I'm glad you exist.

>>83573606
dude i wish the whole thing was just trippy visuals and prog rock.

>>83576465
the power of WEAPONIZED AUTISM beats everything else.

>>83573575
It burns the DCuck that Marvel did Christian allegory correctly, without smashing the audience over the head with it.

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>>83576428

>>83578222
I could definitely see John pulling a dick move like that.

>>83590317
that would have been neat, and a great lore builder.

>>83603075
he's definitely a munchkin as fuck, min-maxing
powergamer

>>83606310
KINO

>>83592437
>Murder would be like if Zod surrendered and said "Alright, you got me, please don't kill me!" and supes just executed him in cold blood anyway
OPTIMUS PLEASE NO

>>83606227
There's nothing Christian about Dr.Strange.

>>83589766
Yes, not only whole scene was easter egg towards They Live fight between Nana and Frank. It was also a very smart quip.

>>83606310
Do these sort of pictures have a name to sort them by? I remember some really good ones I have no idea how to find

>>83575712
why didn't Dormammu just jack the infinity stone and THEN kill him

aside from that I agree this is the only good part of the movie, leave it to Marvel to make a movie about magic boring af

>>83606562
He willingly dies over and over, potentially for all eternity, to save the souls of everyone on Earth.

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>>83603075
that's John Costantine you describing, Dr.Stange is just all about "hurr durr i found this ultimate spell that defeats you now". Fuck off mouskeeter.

>>83606776
Christ never died. Nor did others who truly believed in God.
Try again mouse.

>>83606717
cinegrid?

>>83606857
>Christ never died.
He definitely did.

>>83606857
>Christ never died.
because he never lived

>>83606921
Cheers, Anon

>>83606310

kek well done

>>83606857
>Christ never died

Absolutely untrue.

>>83592479
For you

>>83575204

>hes actually defending winter soldier

you probably thought civil war was good too

>>83603075
As an astrophysicist, this is all tremendously well formulated bullshit, I love it.

>>83608573
Elucidate

>>83608820
It's all so wonderfully weird, but obviously a lot of thought was put into making it all sound plausible and internally consistent.

>>83590551
He knew what he was doing, but he was willing to stay in the time loop for as long as he needed to keep the earth safe.

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>>83580447
Top kek

>>83608573
As an astrophysicist you should know there's as much chance of it being true as most of your hypothetical shit.

>>83604857
>its just to point out how you are wrong
Yeah, he's not a Mary Sue like Rey or Khaleesi because unlike them he always makes mistakes and fucks up. He is overpowered as fuck though.

>>83610313
u wot m8.

>>83573575
>immortal being that's lived for billions of years
>doesn't imprison strange and torture him mercilessly for millennia until he gives up

It was pretty retarded desu

>>83575716
>what is the phantom zone
stfu faggot.

>>83610423
Maybe he's lived so long and tortured so many that that shit bores him like some kind of evolved cenobite. Maybe the times when Strange was tortured was cut for brevity. Maybe they just wanted to avoid the R rating. Maybe you're pretty retarded my main man.

>>83607462
But they are...being a contrarian fuck only makes you look like a fool