This is Leonardo DiCaprio's 450 foot yacht. It takes 48,000

I'm pretty sure he just rented. Your point still stands though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

>>83524869
Fucking btfo, delete your thread OP

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>>83524869
TU QUOQUE

>>83524804
I liked him in the wolf of wall street although I found his acting to be substandard compared to his usual work.

>>83524869
kek

>>83524869
more like tu cuck lol

>>83524804
>>83524869
Pack it up, OP.

>>83524986
sup reddit

>>83525235
>when even reddit is pushing your shit in
The absolute state of /tv/

>>83524869
Missing step 3

>>83524804
>muh environment
what a faggot

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>>83524869
Second post best post.

Why do people give a shit about the environment again?

>>83525429
Then what was OPs conclusion?

>>83524986
>Literally posting screenshots of Reddit posts
Just fuck off, retard.

Leo is an alt right accelerationist

literally our guy

>leftists shill for environmentalism
>leftists shill for population expansion in advanced economies via immigration
>suddenly jamal and his 10 wives are no longer subsistence farmers using a wood oven but are using all of the energy-intensive amenities of modern western life

Can anyone explain this?

>>83525714
>conservatives
>don't want to conserve the environment
Rally mad me tink

>>83525893
>Giving all our money to Mr. Shekelberg will save the environment
o sweaty know
oh honi
babee

ooooowwww

>>83524869
> Peter: "Based on the arguments I have presented, it is evident that it is morally wrong to use animals for food or clothing."
> Bill: "But you are wearing a leather jacket and you have a roast beef sandwich in your hand! How can you say that using animals for food and clothing is wrong?"[2]

This is a perfectly acceptable counter-argument.

>>83524869
Still doesn't change the fact that he doesn't practice what he preaches

>>83526020
It's valid to point out that it is morally wrong while doing it yourself. That just means you're an immoral person. But what fags like Leo and Al Gore do is act like everyone else has to take tax hikes up the ass and lower their quality of life while he fat cats lecturing us on it continue to pollute way more than the average person with their pleasure yachts.

If someone says "X is a problem and we need to do something about it" while simultaneously being a far larger contributor to X than the average individual, then that person is a hypocritical dipshit who is in no position to ask anything of others.

Any possibility of the front falling off?

>>83526164
This one isn't built that way

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>>83525958
y wud mr shkelberg promot enrgy independense

>>83526241
Built what way?

>>83524804
That's not very green

>>83525597

Because we kind of live in it.

>>83524869
Is everyone in this thread retarded? An appeal to hypocrisy only works if the OP was trying to discredit climate change. All he's saying is that Leo is a faggot for a being a hypocrite, which he is.

>>83524804

kind of missing the rather large point that nobody uses a yacht the same way they use a car

I highly doubt yachts are causing even a fraction of the amount of air pollution that cars do for several obvious reasons

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>>83524804

Not bad, but the Steve Jobs one was nicer

>>83526020
It literally isn't.

>>83526377
SS Cuckold

>>83524869
i would disagree with this as the opponent's entire argument is based on moral grounds. Showing their hypocrisy does undermine that moral authority.

>>83524869
>Tu_quoque
covfefe

>>83526375
>I highly doubt yachts are causing even a fraction of the amount of air pollution that cars do for several obvious reasons

What are those reasons? Doesn't leo basically live off his yacht? I'd imagine he'd be using it every day.

>>83524804
How many supermodels do you think that yacht can fit?

>>83524869
.

Not applicable as no one is denying what DiCaprio moans on about. It's the fact that he has an ego about it when his environmental impact is obviously much larger than the average person.

>>83524986
>let's put together numbers randomly, that'll make it seem like I understand what the fuck I am talking about

>>83524869
> A says X is moral
> B shows A has no knowledge of morality
> therefore X may or may not be moral

seems a pretty effective argument to me

>>83524869
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

>>83524804
Who cares? Coal is the #1 problem. No one is saying not to fly planes, drive cars or ride a boat.

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This is Leonardo DiCaprio's 200 inch minivan. It takes 20 gallons of fuel to fill its tank.

>>83526788

A's past would have no bearing on the legitimacy of X, as the veracity of X is independent of A.

>>83526702

1. hardly any people own a yacht. billions of people own cars

2. people who do own yachts are even then not using them nearly as much as those billions of people are using cars

3. when using a yacht you generally don't travel very large distances instead travelling rather short distances then simply sitting in the water for leisure

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>>83524869
>>83526801

>>83526813
>drive cars

I am. 21st century living would improve substantially if it wasn't designed around parking and highway driving.

>>83524869
How does this apply here? Is the OP some rich guy polluting the environment? Leo's the one talking about how bad pollution is and we need to stop climate change, so this argument doesn't work. He's still a hypocrite.

>>83526801
Second poster BTFO

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>>83526801

>>83526894
pretty much all of these things. He's not taking his yacht on a trip around the cape of Africa, he's taking it two miles out into international waters to do whatever it is that rich people do

>>83526894
>1. hardly any people own a yacht. billions of people own cars

Has no bearing on the impact that a 44,000 gallon using yacht would have when actually driven.

>2. people who do own yachts are even then not using them nearly as much as those billions of people are using cars

Depending. How often DOES Leo use his yacht? It seems quite often.

>3. when using a yacht you generally don't travel very large distances instead travelling rather short distances then simply sitting in the water for leisure

Possibly equal or greater to the impact the average person has when commuting to any store on a given day. Who knows. It's much, much larger than your average car.

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>>83524869
Did you even read your own link? It's not applicable here, people aren't saying that climate change isn't real due to the fact that DiCaprio isn't practicing what he is preaching. They're just calling him a faggot for virtue signaling about environmentalism and calling for others to change their ways when he himself has a larger environmental impact and carbon footprint than the vast majority of people and refuses to give up his lavish life

>>83526998
>>83526894

It takes much longer to reach a 2 mile mark on a yacht than it does when driving a car, so, to scale, it'd actually be the equivalent of 20 miles given the amount of fuel used, and the time it takes to arrive at that point.

>>83524869
>>83526801
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benis
:DDDD

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>>83526702
>What are those reasons? Doesn't leo basically live off his yacht? I'd imagine he'd be using it every day.

Motor yachts are hypocrisy. It is often used without him on board to cross Atlantic to Mediterranean if he doesn't want to spend this summer on Carribean. Naval diesels usually burn high sulfur low grade diesel.

If he wants to sail around... get xbox huge sail boat. Pic related. Lot less fuel burned and much more adventure in crossing oceans.

>>83524804
>he doesn't have a nuclear powered yacht
pleb shit

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>>83524869
>See also: And you are lynching Negroes

You are forgetting all the chemicals and pollution a ship produces when they are decommissioned.
Vessels destroy the oceans, that shit is super toxic.

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>>83527146
That swan 115 is ugly as sin. Get a classic wooden cutter or something.

Can we all just cut the bullshit and agree that leo is a PIG with fat pockets. He's living a life of luxury every day. No person that self-indulgent should have a global platform to preach to the wider world about having a conscience.

>>83525625
Observations don't need conclusions. But if you need one, I guess he's just calling Leo a hypocrite. As are most global warming alarmists

>>83524804
if the top 100 richest people tried to build a rag tag fleet of ships with make shift weapons do you think they could defeat 3 US missile destroyers

Fucking stinkpotters

>>83526372
>caring about nature
We can fucking manipulate nature if we wanted to, fuck nature

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>>83526285
>He thinks clean energy will be less controlled or taxed

>>83524869
What do you call it when I point out that I need my shitty sedan to go to my job and get money to live off of, and not for leisure

>>83527476
So the solution is to keep being controlled and taxed by the oil Jews? Thanks /pol/.

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>>83527308

I agree that it looks shitty with that dark blue hull, white hull kinda makes it look like a Swan. In reality best Swans are mid 70's to late 80's 45 to 65 foot around the world race boats with wooden decks. Beautiful and functional, but probably bit too brutal and archaic for celebrities.

>>83525597

Humans are part of the ecosystem. If it collapses so do we as species.

>>83524869

Fallacies exist to point out poor arguments but it does not dismiss the validity of the argument.

>>83526894
The question is why Leo isn't facing any of the same consequences he wants others to live by

He will never have to sacrifice anything, for example, a carbon tax, or higher energy bills to pay for subsidised renewable energy

People use their cars to get to work to feed their families, most people do not use their cars primarily for leisure

No, this doesn't mean his argument is incorrect, no this doesn't mean that his personal yacht use is having any marginal impact on the environment, yes it does mean he's a piece of shit for not doing his "fair share"

>>83527512
Oil Jews? First I'm hearing of this lol
Calm your tits, you had a bad idea now try again later

>>83527476
>Having cheap solar panels and living off the grid is sucking Jew cock.

Please fuck off

>>83527727
Fallacies are ways for liberals to dismiss arguments they can't refute. Just come up for a latin name for it, make a wikipedia article and BAM, not an argument.

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>>83527138
lel

>>83527401
>if the top 100 richest people tried to build a rag tag fleet of ships with make shift weapons do you think they could defeat 3 US missile destroyers

Yes. Buy a lot of surplus warships and outfit those with modern weapons... or just buy enough of those that those 3 USN destroyers run out of anti-ship weapons.

>>83526020
It says a lot about the person, but nothing about their argument. A better example would be:
Peter: Torturing innocent people for fun is wrong. It causes an intense amount of trauma and pain for the victim.
Bill: You yourself tortured an innocent person for fun just this morning! Don't listen to this guy, folks.

Peter = bad.
Torture = bad.
Bill = right about Peter, but wrong about the validity of Peter's argument.

>>83524869
>If I name a fallacy I automatically win! I don't even have to make an argument or think for myself!

Reddit

>>83527797
>Fallacies are ways for liberals to dismiss arguments they can't refute.
Fallacies are arguments that rarely need refuting, so your point is fucking stupid.

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>>83527764
You don't know about oil Jews?

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Trump supporter and asshole billionaire Peter Thiel drives a fucking STUKA to work EVERY DAY

>>83526442
of course it is. if you say something is wrong, and still do it, its obviously not wrong, or you wouldnt do it.

>>83527797
Ad hominem

>>83527864
>We should stop doing x
>Then why are you doing x?
>THIS IS A FALLACY THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE REFUTED, YOU ARE STUPID, STOP QUESTIONING ME

>>83527901
Stop using fallacies in your arguments. I mean, it'd be easy if you had some actual arguments, but you get my drift.

>>83527877
Ad hominem

>>83527864
>Fallacies are arguments that rarely need refuting
what

>>83526859
exactly. So decaprio's claim that Global Warmism junk is moral may or may not be true

so his yacht DOES have a bearing on the truth of his statements

I DON'T PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH BECAUSE I'M NOT THE KIND OF PERSON I'M PREACHING TO

>>83527960
thats not what ad hominem means. go look it up,

>>83527864
>>83527901

Ad hominem

>>83527995
Oh look more ad hominem with a side of strawman

>>83526377
Thing is, you have to plan your routes so damn carefully and can't even think about going past 10 miles from land with these fragile floaters because they'll sink or get damaged. There's no fun in that, I'd rather a nice seaside mansion and a proper sea beast so I can ride into Poseidon's asshole.

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>everything i hate about this board
>in a single thread

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>>83524869
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
>are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.

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>>83524869

>>83526374
So you believe the OP shares Leonardo DiCaprio's position on climate change?

>>83527946
Impossible. The entire basis of modern "debate" is built around fallacies. It's all about intimidation. You have to as many fallacies as you can with a few facts mixed in to make it seem like it's not all bullshit.

>>83526374
>Is everyone in this thread retarded?
No, just you.

>>83528095
Ad hominem

>>83526375
What about his private jet rides?

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>>83527308
Swan's are pure sex.

>>83524869
OP isn't saying pollution/climate change/whatever isn't bad, he's saying Leo's a faggot.

>>83527865
Oh Arabs. They do more for the global economy than Jews because the Trickle down theory actually works under their demographic lol difinately not Jews

>>83528140
Moot point, it was never about a belief or point of argument supported by the OP. It was about Leo being stupid and nothing else.

>>83528140
So you're only allowed to point out hypocrisy as long as you are in the camp of opposition... Making the entire issue of hypocrisy always a tu quoquo no matter what lol always take the state appointed layer anon. Never defend yourself

>>83524986
>let's base the entire emission reduction budgets off of Australia, who is one of the lower polluters.
What's the point of his "math" again? Why is he only focusing on Australia and not global emissions?

>we need to spend 32 quadrillion to lower Australia's emissions enough to save the planet. Checkmate atheists

>>83527873
>Peter Thiel

He left his position as Trump advisor after US pulled out of Paris Agreement. Seems like he is still blitzkrieging towards Paris.

>>83524869
OP btfo
>>83526801
second poster btfo
>>83527138
:DD

>>83524869
>Do as I say, not as I do, good goy
You disgust me.

>>83527032
Number two is a moot point anyway.
>He doesn't use it that much
Oh, so millions of dollars of resources were funneled into something that is barely used, and that's better... how?

>>83524869
>all these triggered cockque replies

>>83524804
just to point out, DiCaprio only chartered the yacht for a week, it cost about 1 million dollars to charter that yacht for a week, and the yacht was tied up at dock the entire time, the main engines were never used

>>83530089
So how much energy was expended to create these engines that don't even see use?

I do t get why you fags are going crazy for this.>>83524869


OP isn't a hypocrite. He's calling Leo a hypocrite, which he is. For all you know OP might not even believe in human caused climate change. You bunch of fucks

yachts aren't a big deal. its the private planes. all of these celebrities and businessman in the green sector fly private and pump tons of C02 into the air.

one flight across the US causes the amount of pollution an average american emits in a year.

>>83530341
WHEN it's using that much fuel yes it is

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don't forget about the migrants goy

>>83530341
>yachts aren't a big deal. its the private planes. all of these celebrities and businessman in the green sector fly private and pump tons of C02 into the air.
this is euro propaganda, humans create C02 when they breath, plants need C02 to grow, its not a harmful gas. Its possible to burn fuel so cleanly with turbine engines that it creates no real pollutants

notice if you go to third world countries like china there is so much pollution that people cant breath and yet the euros want to make china and india and other third world polluters except from pollution controls

>>83527877
are you retarded?

>My life would be better spent at a bar talking to Stacy than shitposting on 4chan
>"BUT YOU'RE SHITPOSTING ON 4CHAN INSTEAD OF TALKING TO STACY SO SHITPOSTING ON 4CHAN MUST BE BETTER"

Are you incapable of critical thought?

>>83530477
Good thing they didn't mention anything else

>>83526377
steve jobs literally let himself die of a perfectly treatable form of cancer because he had more confidence in new age healing techniques than the prognosis of his doctors.

>>83530673
Pancreatic Cancer is extremely deadly, the odds of recovery are incredibly low. I think he just had the balls to die more comfortably than killing himself through chemo.

>>83530537
oh yeah i forgot
all those women and children and the handicapped who have been oppressed by the evil co2 as well

>>83530845
Yeah, fuck humans rights, human health and local communities too!

>>83526702
If you live on a yacht the chances of it being anywhere but docked is even smaller. It's not like he would take it down to the supermarket.

>>83530673
Jobs had AIDS
there is a wikileaks pic of the positive hiv test result

the original story was that Jobs did go to a hospital to get operated on, but then there were was no proof that he ever went to any hospital so they had to change the story and say he was getting holistic treatment

Jobs was gay, Jobs never lived with his 'wife'

>>83531025
Leo does NOT own a 450ft yacht, that yacht is owned by some arab oil sheik, it probably cost about $500 million to build that yacht, Leo is worth around $100 million

Also Juliet Lewis was with Leo that week he was chartering the yacht and she uploaded a video from her cellphone, I cant find it on youtube, but it used to be on youtube

>>83530890
OH NO the environment is being oppressed by the evil white men
Only you the minorities can stop them

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>>83524869
Kill yourself, my motherfucking main man. Kill yourself.