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>Is Diana of Themyscira, the super Amazon heroine played by Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman, a character or an icon? The Wonder Woman movie, part of the Zack Snyder DC Comics universe magnificently dramatized in Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, never gives us her essence. Director Patty Jenkins examines her subject less deeply than Snyder has done. Could Jenkins, director of Monster (2004), about psychotic serial killer Aileen Wuornos — one of the most repugnant and perversely “feminist” movies ever — fashion a viable superhero? Instead, Jenkins’s Wonder Woman veers between myth, what we learn from myth, and what is popularly and simplistically demanded of myth these days.

>The timeless, tentative “paradise” of Themyscira — the all-female society preparing itself for a prophesied battle with Ares, the god of war — is broken by the appearance of soldiers fighting WWI. This leads to Diana’s participation in man’s mortal world. As a young woman who has yet to realize her divinity as the daughter of Zeus (“Am I a god-killer?” Diana asks — more on that later), she faces the enormous consequences and responsibilities of modern civilization. Throughout, she behaves as a fearless, big-hearted standard-bearer.

>This “She-ro” status might satisfy comic-book fans who found it difficult to accept the spiritual complexity of Snyder’s male superheroes, but that also makes Wonder Woman a superficial experience. As the origin story proceeds, Jenkins’s period-set action scenes slip into rip-offs of Captain America, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Hellboy, and Jonah Hex. It degrades Wonder Woman’s worldly initiation, turning it into a banal quasi-romance with Steve Trevor (Chris Pine), an American spy working for the British against the Germans.
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>While it’s okay for Trevor to be a pubescent girl’s cartoon crush, Snyder has prepared us for more: In Batman v Superman, a black-and-white photograph showed Diana posed with Trevor and three sidekicks — Scotsman Charlie (Ewan Bremner), Turkish Sameer (Saïd Taghmaoui), and Native American The Chief (Eugene Brave Rock) — whose union suggests a global calling. But they’re actually just accessories, like Diana’s bracelets, with their electromagnetic force, and her golden lariat that compels men to speak the truth. They’re no more than bomb-tossing action-movie gadgeteers and gadgets. Even Diana’s flirtation with Trevor is more commercial than sexual. So here, again, is that character-versus-icon problem that reduces Diana’s personal, historical, mythological complexity.

>Sorry, fanboys and fangirls, Wonder Woman needs to cohere with the way Snyder used comic-book fantasy to simultaneously elevate and deepen the complicated human drives of DC Comics characters. Unfortunately, Diana’s “god-killer” question lacks resonance and exposes contemporary faithlessness — unlike Snyder’s visionary films, derived from folkloric belief and Christian notions of sacrifice and redemption (which occasionally made Sucker Punch awesome, stirring pop art). Snyder’s mature perspective is traded for women-warrior scenes in Themyscira that replace 300-style sensual intensity with the near-camp of butt-kicking female toughness. Connie Nielsen as Diana’s mother Hippolyta and Robin Wright as her soldier-aunt Antiope split the difference between conveying maternalism and bravura as recompense for a society that lives sexlessly without men (not an issue in comic books but mandatory in cinema). Snyder’s revolutionary approach to pop art lay in using eroticism to display the force of his characters’ wills; it’s what makes his movies “adult.”
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>Wonder Woman, however, is “feminist” in a petty, trendy way. When meeting Trevor’s roly-poly British secretary (Lucy Davis), Diana retorts, “We call that slavery!” She questions Trevor’s dependence on a family-heirloom watch, saying, “You let that little thing tell you what to do?” That innuendo’s transparent appeal to female disdain signals Diana’s refusal to understand social tradition or to witness and perhaps admire masculine competence. Her observation of WWI’s No Man’s Land provides no special insight beyond the overly clever: “A living act of entropy.” Diana’s pronouncement “We are a bridge to greater understanding between all men” is one of the film’s empty feminist platitudes.

>One cannot ignore the fact that Wonder Woman was made under cultural pressure. Jenkins is not an action director; clearly, she was hired only as a politically correct token. The best action sequence follows a bullet hurtling to its fatalistic destiny, recalling Snyder’s breath-baiting image of a bluebird fleeing the talons of a hawk in Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’hoole. But Jenkins’s Amazon warriors rappelling down cliffs and shooting arrows against German rifles lacks the daring, visual extravagance of Zhang Yimou’s The Great Wall. In all film history, Leni Riefenstahl and Kathryn Bigelow remain the only women to exhibit proficiency at kinetic filmmaking.

>Except for a flashback sequence that depicts the mythic history of the Amazons in a series of slow-motion Renaissance-style paintings (evoking the bas-reliefs in Man of Steel and the hieroglyphics in The Prince of Egypt), too much of Wonder Woman is realistic in a conventional Marvel Comics way, without Snyder’s visual passion. Maybe it takes PC women and whipped men to split that difference, but it’s a real let-down to realize that neither Bruce Wayne nor Clark Kent will appear to spark things up. Or maybe some fans will simply enjoy banality.
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DCucks on Suicide Squad watch (worst form of suicide watch)
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>Most of one’s reaction to Wonder Woman depends on Gal Gadot’s Diana. It was puzzling when fanboys failed to appreciate the seriousness of Batman v Superman (which should have fulfilled their dreams of comic-book supremacy) and preferred to ogle Gadot — as if she were Diana Rigg’s Emma Peel or Sigourney Weaver’s Ripley or Jane Fonda’s Barbarella. Here, Diana is described as “the most beautiful woman you’ve ever seen” when she interrupts the men-only sanctum of British Parliament. But Gadot actually looks girlish. Her features are so youthful that she can believably portray Diana as an innocent venturing into the adult violence of World War I; she combines a grown woman’s voluptuousness with the athleticism of a naïve tomboy. Wonder Woman downplays Diana’s pursuit of destiny in the fight against evil, so after much pyrotechnic superhero tussling with super-evil (David Thewlis as a proto-Nazi), she winds up declaring, “I believe in love.” She’s both a lesser character and a lesser icon than Snyder’s Superman and Batman. Diana, like her introductory movie, has childlike enthusiasm but no passion.
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>we live in a world where Armond White is now the only critic who makes any sense.

What in the ever-loving fuck happened?
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>>83478640
Millenial "film buff" """""critics""""" who have never properly studied the medium were allowed to voice their opinions on every review site
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>>83478551
>the way Snyder used comic-book fantasy to simultaneously elevate and deepen the complicated human drives of DC Comics characters.

Is this nigga fo real?
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>>83478919
Snyder's batman and superman are the most human iterations of either character brought to screen
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>>83478640
>he conforms to my prejudices and reinforces my safespace
you're literally an sjw
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>>83478992

With the difference that we use logic and they use muh feelings as an argument you fucking piece of shit, go fuck yourself.
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>>83478590
BASED
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Literally the king of /tv/
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>>83478992
>he analyzes the filmmaking based on over forty years of film study, referencing and examining movies in the context of an evolving aesthetic and emotional experience, shitting on lesser derivatives while praising movies with actual visual imagination, offering alternatives both classical and unknown if the movie is lacking
>but hey he's a conservative so I'm going to dismiss everything else he says
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>>83478951
Especially the part where he said "Save Martha" that was more human than human
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>>83479130
>knows that batman could very likely kill him that moment
>knows lex will probably try to kill his mom
>knows bats is the only dude who could save his mom

Anon were you born stupid or did you have to work on it?
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>>83478620
Not really Wonder Woman was good and ambitious but Armond is right you probably aren't going to top the genius and complexity of MoS and BvS.

Snyder has elevated the superhero genre.
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>>83478520
so he's officially /our guy/, lads?
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>>83480014
>hates shitty marvelflicks
>calls out feminst pandering movies
>understands the genius of Snyder and BvS
yeah probably the smartest and most honest critic today.
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>>83478590
>But Jenkins’s Amazon warriors rappelling down cliffs and shooting arrows against German rifles lacks the daring, visual extravagance of Zhang Yimou’s The Great Wall.

Fucking Christ, Armond, I can only take so much of what you say seriously.
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>>83480243
>Jenkins’s Amazon warriors rappelling down cliffs and shooting arrows against German rifles lacks the daring
I haven't watched the Great Wall but the rappelling down cliffs scene with the Amazons was pretty embarrassingly bad. I watched the movie today btw.
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>>83480243
The Great Wall is unironically good
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>>83478640
>loves Man of Murder and Batman v Superman
>ONLY LEGIT CRITIC
He'd love Wonder Woman if the initial response was bad.
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>>83481714
He'd love it if it was a well-made movie
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>>83478590
>recalling Snyder’s breath-baiting image of a bluebird fleeing the talons of a hawk in Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga’hoole.

lmao
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>>83478520
Daily reminder
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>>83478590
>Leni Riefenstahl and Kathryn Bigelow remain the only women to exhibit proficiency at kinetic filmmaking.

*looks up who that is*

>Leni Riefenstahl (Helene Riefenstahl) was a German dancer, actress, and film director best known for her imposing propaganda films in support of the National Socialist (Nazi) Party.

.....................uh.............
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>>83481714

You know nothing about Armond, he'd love it if Snyder made it. Those are the only capeshit he likes.
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>>83482057
He's not wrong, politics aside Triumph of the Will is unironically one of the most powerful movies ever made, even if you aren't a fan of Nazism.
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>>83481714
>He'd love Wonder Woman if the initial response was bad.
This, he is a contrarian, hee's love Freddy got fingered and shit like that.

He liked Baby Boss and Dirty Grampa, that's enough to understand his twisted mind.
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i wish this was longer

got the impression he had to get out the review in short time
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>>83482092
He also likes the first Christopher Reeve Superman so there's that.
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>>83482106
It's overrated. Olympia is better and more "kinetic" as he mentioned.
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>>83482019
don't lie DCuck anon

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448002/baywatch-movie-idiotic-escapism
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>>83482019
Armond likes pic related. I trust his opinion on Baywatch more than any other critic
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>>83482227
#FakeNews
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Based armanposter
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>>83479094
>he thinks Jack and Jill is a good film
Literally the only reason needed to dismiss him as a fucking contrarian, you faggot.
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>>83482230
>loves a movie that makes jokes about torturing a real jewish man
>hates a movie with an israeli actress
>praises a nazi director

hmm
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>>83478520
>>83478551
>>83478590
>>83478623
Jesus christ mang...even for a Snyder loyalist such as myself...this is way too much.
Also, great capemovie overall.
Much better than the shit comedies Marvel shats every other month.
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>>83482643
Is kinda like a grindhouse movie: Black Gay Nazi Movie Critic: The Contrarian Rises
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>>83478520
>>83478551
>>83478590
>>83478623
>Except for a flashback sequence that depicts the mythic history of the Amazons in a series of slow-motion Renaissance-style paintings (evoking the bas-reliefs in Man of Steel and the hieroglyphics in The Prince of Egypt), too much of Wonder Woman is realistic in a conventional Marvel Comics way, without Snyder’s visual passion. Maybe it takes PC women and whipped men to split that difference, but it’s a real let-down to realize that neither Bruce Wayne nor Clark Kent will appear to spark things up. Or maybe some fans will simply enjoy banality.

>Gal Gadot is a tomboy superheroine designed for our PC times. Is Diana of Themyscira, the super Amazon heroine played by Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman, a character or an icon? The Wonder Woman movie, part of the Zack Snyder DC Comics universe magnificently dramatized in Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, never gives us her essence. Director Patty Jenkins examines her subject less deeply than Snyder has done. Could Jenkins, director of Monster (2004), about psychotic serial killer Aileen Wuornos — one of the most repugnant and perversely “feminist” movies ever — fashion a viable superhero? As a young woman who has yet to realize her divinity as the daughter of Zeus (“Am I a god-killer?” Diana asks — more on that later), she faces the enormous consequences and responsibilities of modern civilization. Throughout, she behaves as a fearless, big-hearted standard-bearer. This “She-ro” status might satisfy comic-book fans who found it difficult to accept the spiritual complexity of Snyder’s male superheroes, but that also makes Wonder Woman a superficial experience.

Putting it as it is

BASED
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>>83482019
Why does RT editors keep doing this?
Taking one line vaguely praising something out of his reviews while the entire review is him shitting on it?
They did it with Boss Baby and a few others as well.
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>>83482019
>DCucks are so desperate they're trying to trick people into thinking Armond loved Baywatch
He fucking hated it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448002/baywatch-movie-idiotic-escapism

Armond has praised countless shitty films, why are you posting a fake review when you have so much real ammo at your disposal? I'm deeply confused by this.
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>>83482275
Jack and Jill was genius though you and all the normies saw it and thought about how shit it was but that's the point.

the movie is making fun of other stupid movies and the ridiculous ideas and obvious marketing they put in. the film is an ironic piece.
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>>83484094
fucking this, even Al Pacino and Adam Sandler knew this.
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>>83478623
>David Thewlis as a proto-Nazi
He didn't even watch the film lmao
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>>83483286
You're probably just not a FAN. Have you ever pissed yourself watching a movie?
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