DUDE WE PRAISED THE WRONG STAR WARS MOVIE SO WE'RE GONNA

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>>83460158
>caring one way or another about toy commercials

As I understand it, their complaints were basically:

-Too many nostalgic references (which didn't make much sense given their love for TFA, which was essentially a reshoot of ANH)

-It was too serious

-It made the galaxy seem big, when star wars should be a small/isolated story with no greater setting

>good

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>>83460158

>Rogue One was the good Star Wars movie

>>83460158
They're both shit

>>83460158
Rogue One was garbage, though. It was boring as shit

>>83460230
It probably was the only good SW movie. Although Empire was decent too.

>>83460158
It's been over a year since their TFA review and you're still butthurt.

lol faggot

Is the triggering of Rogue One cucks by RLM funnier than the triggering of Prequel cucks by RLM? I can't decide.

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>>83460276

>It probably was the only good SW movie.

OH, right. I get ya.

>>83460158
They didn't even criticise it for the right things.

Oh. Another RLM thread.

>>83460158
fucking guaranteed replies, OP.

Well done, you figured out what makes /tv/ tick.

>>83460158
>Rogue One
>Good
They're both shit famalamadingdong

>A BLOO BLOO SOME INTERNET NOBODIES DISAGREED WITH MY FAT NECKBEARD OPINION ABOUT SOME FUCKING GAY CAPESHIT MOVIE A BLOO BLOO

You've lost the plot.

>>83460444
Elaborate

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>>83460276

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>when the butthurt from one review is literally never ending

third reich mike is truly a god among men

>>83460217
>-It made the galaxy seem big, when star wars should be a small/isolated story with no greater setting
In what way?

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>>83460158
>hate a Star Wars movie for being a cheap cash-in
>defend a cheap cash-in Star Wars movie because some internet critics hated it
What did /tv/ mean by this?

>>83460158

they literally said in the stream last night that they don't hate it but just enjoy trolling people like you

>>83460786

not that anon but it showed us a lot of new things

- 3+ new planets
- 4+ entirely new ships
- new behaviors for the rebels and the empire
- new use of the death star
- new factions
- new kind of ending for a star wars movie
- vader's summer house

The movie is flawed as hell, but it was refreshing to see lots of new things on the screen even if you had stupid references packed inbetween.

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Stop watching RLM.

>>83460936
>that grammar

>>83460936

>This triggered cuck that keeps making these black twitter meme tier pictures

Back to /r/IWantToBeGayButMyBlackStepDadWon'tLetMe you fucking CHUD.

>>83460276
and all these years i thought star wars was supposed to be about fun characters, thanks for correcting me

>>83462277
Lazy archetypes you mean? Besides, does it matter if the other movies are trash when it's enjoyable trash for you (and millions of people)? Tons of shitty movies are fun, just why acting like the fun changes that they aren't good for anything else.

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>>83460217
>>83460871
The point they were making wasn't that the galaxy SHOULD be small, it was that the Star Wars universe IS small. Attempts to expand upon it show how the mythos of Star Wars is pretty vapid. It's a hero's journey, not a desperate war effort. People shit talk how they supposedly dislike RO for the same reasons they like TFA, but the point they were making was that TFA was Star Wars while RO just had a Star Wars aesthetic.

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>>83460936
Man, it's just great to see posts like this when RLM never mentioned any specific in their spoof podcast videos. They just point out obvious cliches that everyone who's watched a youtube podcast recognizes.

>>83460158
both movies sucked.

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they both suck. star wars is dead

APOLOGIZE!

>>83460936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Jn0ZihMgw

People really get mad over RLM eh.

>>83465817

Rogue One was at least original and not A New Hope 2.0

>>83460194
woke

>>83460331

I think Rogue One cucks, but I might be a prisoner of the moment

>>83460158
yeah that was very dumb and very obvious

>>83460158
but Disney has yet to make a good star wars movie..

What is it with Rogue One apologists? The only way it would have been good was if you took the last 30 minutes and added them as a short prequel movie to the DVD extras of New Hope.

Otherwise it had bland characters, a story we already knew the ending of, some downright stupid decisions like replacing human actors with CGI and mostly boring visuals.

Say what you want about Force Awakens, at least I was kinda invested in these characters.

>>83465993
>at least original
That's not good enough.

>>83460276

If not bait, kys.

>>83460158
>ACTUAL GOOD DISNY WARS MOVIE

There isn't one.

>>83467025
TFA had likable new characters and a proven winning formula. It was way too conservative but also very effective at recreating the appeal of ANH.

>>83460217
They flip flop on their reviews a lot. One minute they're sucking a movie's dick, the next they're criticizing it like they have always disliked it.

>>83465908
Yeah, he really should. Killing Star Wars, then selling its corpse to be raped by Disney.

Anyone remember in which Pre Rec Jay talks about how they were a lot less enthusiastic about TFA the day after they saw the movie and did the review?

>>83462277
How are generic characters with wooden acting FUN? Nobody gave a fuck about Luke Skywalker when I was a kid. We just liked playing war with the cool looking toys.

>>83465908
The prequels sucked too. Don't kid yourself. ROTJ was the last good SW movie, Empire the last really good one.

>>83460217
More specifically it was too many moments of "hey remember this" that don't feature into the story even a little bit. Bumping into those two guys from ANH (who apparently got off planet within the next five minutes to avoid getting blown up), seeing the droids in one scene just show up and go "wonder what's going on that doesn't involve us?" Shit like that.

Both of them sucked desu

>>83460158
>I loved Force Awakens. It's everything I dreamed of.

I'll never forget my disgust when he said that.

>>83465963

*Claps in slow motion while having a devilish grin*

YES...

>>83468402
Empire is the only good one. TFA was decent but forgettable, Bandido Uno was absolute shite.

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I like my new toy commercials just as much as the old toy commercials and even the toy commercials made in between the old and the new toy commercials. Anyone who takes my toy commercials too seriously is a sad man child.

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>start rogue one
>Get twenty minutes in and delete it
It's probably even a decent movie, but I'm fucking done. We're beyond the point of over saturation. I'm tired of seeing the same shit.

>>83468640
>>Get twenty minutes in and delete it
Well, it kept getting more abysmally boring as it went along, so the only mistake you made was downloading it in the first place.

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>>83468405
>leaves the planet literally just before a prototype superweapon disintegrates the city he was just in
>gets his arm chopped off by a hobo a few weeks later
Was Cornelius Evazan the luckiest or the unluckiest man to ever live?

>>83460936
>RLM makes a show poking fun at dozens of shitty internet 'nerd' panel shows
>these guys are the only ones to take it personally
Really makes you think.

>>83460936
The film buffs struggle to find relevance in a market dominated by the millennial consumer.

>>83463398
>not a desperate war effort

But it is....Which is why both A New Hope and Empire opens with battle scenes on a larger scale.

And which this film further proved by being a moderate success and highly acclaimed critical success....So you're objectively wrong it seems. Oh well.

>>83462277
>fun characters

No one cares about what you want though.

The thing about RO that makes it feel like it's not star wars, is that star wars knew how to have fun. RO has no characters you care about, can't stand as it's own movie despite the "standalone" label and is just no fun all around

>>83469529
Agreed
Also it was just the most generic war movie, but with Star Wars fan service.
I nearly fell asleep in the movie theatre.
I didn't like TFA much either, but at least it was somewhat entertaining

>>83460158
RLM as legit film critics fucking suck. watch them for entertainment value or Rich Evans' laugh.

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>>83469323
>things that are successful are good
k y s

>>83460158
They were right though. I loved TFA and hated Rogue One. Completely different movies. People who argue saying that they contradict their TFA review are full of shit. You can't use the same arguments. TFA had good characters and motivations that were clear. Rogue One was nothing but nostalgia.

>>83460936

>THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY MAKE ENTERTAINING REVIEWS AND SHOWS THAT REQUIRE EFFORT POINTED OUT OUR SCAM!
>QUICKLY! TO TWITTER!

>>83460158
TFA is much better than Rogue One though

>>83470792
But Zootopia was a good movie, Anon.

>>83460754
more like good goy mike

>>83460217
this was a really dumb oversimplification, sucks for you that a critic's opinion can wind you up enough to be intellectually dishonest

>>83463398
It's weird because TFA felt empty and hollow, not like a SW movie at all. RO felt like it actually took place in the SW galaxy of the 6 films.

>So, Jay, what did you think of this movie?
>Well, Mike, I hated it.
>Really, I thought it was great.
>Well, I didn't HATE it...

>>83471018
every half in the bag in a nutshell, let's face it, mike is the top in this relationship

>>83470995
Rogue One felt empty and hollow to me. Force Awakens felt like a star wars sequel I've been waiting my whole life for. Strange.

they lost all credibility when they removed jesse

>>83460331
Nah. Prequelfags getting blown the fuck out are still the funniest.

I still crack up everytime I think of the TFA review where the first half is spent shitting on the horrible prequels some more.

>>83460814
niggas are a bunch of contrarians, everyone that isn't kidding themselves knows tfa is a more complete movie in pretty much every way

TFA was a good film. Only redddit dislikes it.

Star Wars is normie trash.

>>83471745
for you

>>83471718
It's a good film in the way that a Corolla is a good car.

>>83471815
What a shit comparison that has no weight. TFA was good. I enjoyed it. Can't wait for episode 8. Kill yourself.

TTA was utter garbage unless you really have pleb tier taste. the whole thing was a fucking shitfest with horrendous acting, they also cast the ugliest nigger they could find, cant wait till he fucks that little white chick in the next one.

>>83471878
TFA*

>>83471878
Acting was good and better than anything in the prequels. Characters were interesting. I enjoyed it. It was fun. Race is not an argument.

>>83460158
>rogue one good

I wanted to like it, I really did. But the bland characters, odd character motivations, and disjointed story left me completely bored. I haven't seen any undeserved criticism.

>>83469323
not that anon but the guy claimed star wars is, at its core, not a desperate war effort but a hero's journey. yes, there is a desperate war effort present within the hero's journey, but RLM and that anon are claiming that if you simply focus on that desperate war effort and dont give the audience a fun exciting journey to follow, then you're not left with a very good star wars movie.

>>83471872
A Corolla is cheap, popular and made to be marketable to as many people as possible. Aside from some frills the basic design hasn't really changed in over 30 years.

Sounds like TFA to me.

>>83471998
Still works and gets the job done. I'm not a picky faggot. TFA gave me my entertainment and that's all I care about. Back to real life, faggot.

>>83470995
When I was a kid, kids liked different aspects of Star Wars. Some liked the space battles, some liked the ships, some liked the space wizardry, some liked the creatures.

RO feels like it takes one aspect of that and makes it into a movie. It feels more Star Wars-y than what TFA did. TFA felt like a very expensive fan film, like some nerd had finally got the budget to make his original-content-do-not-steel movie.

>>83471979
I'm with you. Of the original trilogy, I never really gave the war much thought. The increased politics in the prequels was horrible, and the war focus in RO was not as bad, but just as boring.

>>83472047
I KNOW ITS SHIT BUT I LIKE IT ANYWAY STOP BULLYING

>>83472059
That's not even the least bit true. Rogue One is the hollow fan film without a story. Rogue One is the retro film that has a bunch of nostalgia. Rogue One is the film with no character development. Rogue One is the video game commercial.

The Force Awakens has all of those - space battles, ships, space wizardly and creatures. TFA has characters that actually show emotion and have motivations. TFA actually is true to Star Wars and does new things.

Nice try, faggot.

>>83465993
It's Inglourious Basterds with a Star Wars aesthetic and less gore/good music/snappy dialogue/charismatic villain/everything.

>>83468778
Ponda Baba loses the arm, not Evazan.

>>83472522
It's Inglorious Bastards completely bereft of style or charisma.

>>83460158
OP, they actually do have shit taste do you even watch their reviews. They constantly praise generic mouse shit, they eat it up

>>83460936
>RLM never singled out collider
>Collider cries on twitter
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

>>83463398
>it was that the Star Wars universe IS small

And that's 100% bullshit.

You could make 50 movies in SW universe that would have nothing to do with Jedi, Empire or Skywalkers.

It's one of the richest fictional universes ever created.

The real problem is Mike wants the same fucking movie over and over again.

The Force Awakens > Rogue One

Daisy Ridley > Felicity Jones

>>83472604
Yeh.

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>>83472687
>being this delusional

>>83472687
You can do that, but then it doesn't feel like Star Wars except for a very tiny fraction of the population. That's not profitable.

>>83472684
Guilty people usually make the first move.

>>83472782
RLM made the first move though

>>83472684
If the shoe fits.
Didn't even know about Collider until RLM's Nerd Crew, but was amazed to see that they're hardly exaggerating.

>>83472831
How so? Nerd crew was a general parody. Collider felt attacked so they cried first.

Nice try you white cultural appropriator

>>83472760

You could make a movie about some small colony in the middle of nowhere fighting off alien slavers.

You could make a movie about crime organizations on Coruscant fighting for power.

You could make a movie about some cop on Corellia dealing with space terrorists.

You could make a movie about some explorers venturing into unknown regions and uncovering ancient alien ruins.

You could make a movie about random rebel soldiers doing grunt work in the Alliance.

You could make countless movies in SW universe.

>>83472774
>That's not profitable

Making countless sequels, remakes and reboots is no longer profitable either.

Nobody expected Avatar or Harry Potter to make that much $ yet they did.

>>83472894
>all fan movie ideas
>literally no one would care except fanboys
>not profitable

My original post still stands

>>83472921
Youre either trolling or really delusional and i hope for your sake its the former.

>>83465993
Rogue One was worse. It was a shitty prequel that was even more about a death star than TFA. At least TFA gave it a new name and the story didn't revolve around it.

>>83472930
>well done space adventures movie with SW logo would fail because I say so

Avatar or GotG did it without SW logo.

You are really fucking stupid.

R1 was literally a fan movie idea and it broke 1b $.

>>83473002
>ad hominem rebuttal

Dude if your stuck in a hole the first thing you do is stop digging.

>>83472958

You are the idiot here. Look at all the failed remakes and reboots. Hollywood revenue is stagnant for years now while movies get more and more expensive.

>>83473020
>I have no argument

>>83473025
>another ad hominem rebuttal

So you are delusional. Thanks for clearing that up..

>>83473046
I do but your clearly crazy

>>83473002
>admits R1 was a fan movie

Hahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahaa

>>83473048
>>83473060
>I can't stand losing internet argument so I'll start talking about ad hominem

Hilarious really.

>>83473075

Why is that a bad thing in any way?

>>83473087
Yeah i mean, you cant make a logical statement without making logical fallacies. Its hillarious

They're both bad, but TFA so much worse than the other, it doesn't make any sense that they would prefer this one, unless they're getting money from Disney to spare the trilogy

>>83472894
Those sound terrible.

>>83472894
This sounds like what the Alien franchise has become.

The second you make "Prometheus" people start to see flaws in the series because they took a formula, tried to expand on it and its really taking away from what people originally felt. Kinda lile what the prequels did. When you explained what "the force" was, it just felt extremely cheap. Sorry bit SW is very limited.

>>83473413

Everybody was looking forward to Prometheus.

Movie was just a horribly written mess and that killed it.

>>83473413

If anything games proved that SW isn't limited. KotoR or Republic Commando proved that you can make something entirely different with SW universe and fans will love it.

>>83473474
Again your talking very niche movies that wont be profitable. Thats why pre disney you had the expanded universe with all of the books

But no one outside of diehard fanboys would care enough.

>>83472522
and inglorious bastards is a children's version of 7 samurai with jewish neurotic revenge fantasy worked in

>>83473514
Which is why the movie universe is extremly limited.

>>83473474
And theyll probably remain games....why make an expensive movie that wont make back its budget when you can male a game for a fraction and def make back its profit.

>>83473474
KOTOR just follows the star wars formula from the OT. Nothing entirely different. I like the game, but don't want it to have anything to do with movie discussions. Games are a different medium and should have no place in the film discussion. Kotor fags will pull the "muh vidya nostalgia" and then turn around and give people crap for wanting things similar to the OT in the movies. It's so hypocritical.

>Mike"I hate pain and gain" Cucklasa
>Mike"I dont like escape from new york" Cucklasa
>Mike "trekkie cuck" Cucklasa
>Mike "I like independence day resurgence but hate transformers" Cucklasa

>>83473744
You sound like a butt hurt faggot

>>83473514
>very niche movies that wont be profitable

Like Rogue One? Yeah, that was a financial disaster.

>>83473744
>trekkie
>liked JJ Star Trek

>>83472930
>all fan movie ideas

They are already doing it. You will get a Boba Fett and young Han Solo movies. What do you think comes after that?

>>83473851
trekkies are cucks. of course he did

>>83473239
TFA was ghastly. Most Anticipated Movie of all time and it was a huge disappointment. Just thinking about it makes me ill.

>>83472159
TFA was a pile of shit. Dumber Death Star. Incoherent plot, "We need this map to find Luke and for some reason it's in two parts, and Luke gave it to some bloke who doesn't matter. And there's this junk collecting nobody who can do all things force after just hearing about it and can fly the falcon flawlessly, oh wait, Finn's seeing the death star attack light years away, oh yeah, let's send this mary sue bitch to Luke who we just met, so what if this mission to find Luke is vital to Resistance Survival."

>>83460158
Is 4chan finally realizing these hacks don't have any conviction and will vomit out whatever gets them more clicks and (you)s in the comments section?

>>83473831
>storm troopers
>tie fighters
>x wings

Same formula each time. I really hope your trolling or youre extremely dense

>>83473921
TFA was still good. Space is fake and doesn't exist anyway, don't care about the 'science' shit.

>>83460866
Then why should anyone take their content seriously if even they can't stand by it?

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>>83473959
>taking a youtube series where they watch movies and make jokes seriously

>>83468375
This. Even as a kid, all I cared about were the ships and the setting. I was bored to tears every time the main characters were clogging up the screen.

>>83473947
Space isn't fake. That's the saddest cop out I've heard in a while. "Because I like the force awakens, so what if J.J. did illogical shit with the scenes." J.J. messed up by choosing the engine room set the very same way he screwed up the force awakens, "Dude, you know what would be cool, Imagine if the Engine Room of the Enterprise is like a huge Brewery with all that metal and pipes and shit, yeah that'd be so cool." Then TFA, "Dude, wouldn't it be awesome if we like Redid the scene when Obi Wan felt the destruction of Aldaran. But instead of feeling it through the force Finn looks up and sees it happening in like, real time. So what if they are light years away, this is fantasy, man, we can do whatever we want."

I hate the Force Awakens more than I've hated any other film.

>>83473883
Xwings
Tie fighters
Storm troopers

Very limited.

>>83473883
Then its going to make the equivalent of Prometheus and people will stop caring.

>>83474087
I don't watch star wars for the stars or the wars. I watch it for the characters.

I love TFA. Good characters.

If you get caught up with light year nonesense, then you should go watch something else. Only autistic faggots allow that kind of shit to distract them.

Space is a fantasy. NASA is full of shit. There is no big universe out there. The earth is flat and the celestial body is very close in reality.

If your favorite part about Star Wars is the storytelling, craftsmanship, filmmaking, etc. then you'll probably prefer TFA.

If your favorite part about Star Wars is the EU, video games, books, etc. then you'll probably prefer Rogue One.

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>>83474247
Fucking THIS

>everyone loves TFA
>/tv/ hates it

>everyone hates R1
>/tv/ loves it

contrarian as always

>>83474035
Yeah, who wants characters in their film anyway?

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>>83474306
>thinking /tv/ is a person

Lel

>>83474306
I'm a consistent cynic. I think all assembly line Mickey Mouse merchandising shit from Frozen to Star Wars to Marvel is total garbage.

>>83468405
the two bar guys were a bad choice but they were the only bad choice. of course fucking r2d2 and c3po are going to be involved somehow, even if minimally.

>>83473940
>>83474095

Are you really that retarded?

So every WW2 movie is the same shit because they always have Nazis, Garands and Tigers?

>>83474360
it is a hivemind
we all represent neurons firing when we post
4chan is literally one person

>>83460520
The only good point they made was about the shit characters.

There's lots of dumb shit in the movie to criticise, but the biggest flaw that I'm surprised no critic picked up on is how the characters are invincible killing machines. It's the same thing as Lucas' droids and how Jedi "cut through them like butter", except with stormtroopers. It's what RLM criticised about the prequels, but didn't even mention it this time.

The movie's tone is trying to be gritty and realistic, but the characters act like they came straight out of an Expendables movie. Except now they actually are expendable.

>>83474247
If you like Star Reddit you belong in reddit.

>>83474814
>every main character dies
>the characters are invincible killing machines

>>83474717
Pretty much yeah. I mean it wouldnt be a ww2 movie if nazis, japs or degos were being killed. Ypu answered your own question.

>>83475142
Yeah, they die in the last 15 minutes. But throughout the rest of the movie they are never in danger, exactly because you know they can only die when the movie lets them. So they can fight hundreds of stormtroopers without problems.

>>83475026
Love Star Wars. Never even lurked redddit. Redddit is essentially for prequel underage faggots who never grew up appreciating good movies.

>>83473413
>This sounds like what the Alien franchise has become.
funny you say that because rlm said their favorites parts of alien covenant was all the new things and NOT the stuff to do with the previous films, the reason I mention them is because I haven't seen the movie.

>>83472894
I agree with this guy, the examples he gives may not sound interesting at first, but the point he's making is that you can make a film set in the star wars universe with any genre in mind easily, the hard part is making the actual STORY with NEW INTERESTING CHARACTERS. also the examples he gave are very vague plot ideas and is just ONE facet of each story. is 'Terminator 2' just a movie about two robots traveling back in time to fight each other? no of course not, there's no way of telling from that little information how interesting or quality that movies is. good movies are multi faceted, with LAYERED conflicts with in-depth characters.

guess I'm in the middle here, because what stories I think have the most potential would be so far removed from the source material (no
original main characters showing up, jedi or sith should not be central to the plot, etc) and would take a lot of creative chances and craftsmanship to develop unique characters and tone, that it essential wouldn't even be a STAR WARS movie. of course disney isn't going to go for that, because that would mean originality and taking chances. they're banking on the big known names to assure a profit. my ideal would be like a anthology movie series maybe starting with a bounty hunter crime movie set on tattooine the main cast would be completely new characters. we could put in some
previous characters like jabba, he would be a good choice because he was a minor role before and he can stay more of a backdrop with some expansion of his character.

basically I love the pulp sf fantasy elements and design of the first two star wars films, they had such a visceral and grit filled atmosphere that you don't see a lot

>>83473520
Being a copy of a copy doesn't make R1 any better.

>>83475360
lmao keep trying disneyshill TFA is already hated and forgotten

>>83470946
>He thinks Walt Disney's vision of a Jew-free world remains the constant for his company after (((new management))) took over

>>83460158
Why do losers obsess over e-celebrities?

>>83472687
Well you could of, but Disney decided to say fuck that universe and make their own with strong independent women fighting white racist misogynists, I don't know where the non-humans (good or evil) fit into the diversity pyramid yet

>>83474443
Could've easily stuck them into the background somewhere, like they did with the Rebels characters.
>"Paging General Syndulla"
>Chopper droid rolling out of Frame

Those were the real nerd cameos, I had to be told about them since I don't consume Disney-EU media. All the OT callback stuff was put into the center of the frame in close-up shots so people can say "I RECOGNIZE THAT LEL I'M SUCH A NERRRRD".

Back in the Special Edition of ANH, we had the Outrider in the background leaving Mos Eisley and only people who played Shadows of the Empire knew what that was, in Episode 3 the Millennium Falcon lands on one of the lower platforms on Coruscant, these were things you were lucky to spot.

>>83474717
Would you watch a movie with the title of World War II, about the daily life of a milkman in Texas?

>>83460158
I think they were blinded by their prequel hate that they were forced to pretend to like the new trilogy and then realized too late that it was even worse

>>83475342
The droid shoots them without looking, offhandedly throws a grenade over his shoulder or bops them on the head for comedic effect. Makes them look sooo fearsome.

inb4
>but it's the same in the OT

Why does a bunch of rebel grunts have the same power level as the heroes of the OT?

>>83463398
>The point they were making wasn't that the galaxy SHOULD be small, it was that the Star Wars universe IS small. Attempts to expand upon it show how the mythos of Star Wars is pretty vapid.
No that's a shit point.
Every star wars movie has expanded the universe.
TFAs expansion of the universe were the most empty though since the planets were just plot points with nothing else behind them.

>>83468405
>More specifically it was too many moments of "hey remember this"
there were like three legitimate ones

If vader had shown off his lightsaber first during the krennec scene instead of at the end scene the movie would've been more self contained and had only 2 legitimate remember this moments.

>>83475470
That must be why faggots like you keep complaining about it.

Money talks and the box office of the movie is an indication.

>>83476125
>money = good
lmao disneyshills have hit a new low. it's star wars of course it's going to make money just like the prequels.

>>83460158
>Rogue One
>Not the WORST star wars movie yet

>>83476234
I like the film and I've gotten no checks from disney.

Real fans like the movie.

>>83465963
lol

>>83475728

Romance movies that happen in safe place while war rages elsewhere are a thing you know?

>>83475197

And yet there are hundred os successful WW2 movies. Despite the fact they are always fighting the same bad guys with the same weapons and we all know who won in the end.

Saying that SW is limited is idiotic.

>>83460194
fpbp

>>83476261

AotC exists. It's literally one of the worst high budget movies ever made.

>>83465963
kek

>>83476330
Yes WW2 is a limited universe and thats why the trend dried up. Like SW. If you tkae out storm troopers, tie fighter, xwings you get a movie that isnt star wars.

>>83476234
It still got positive reviews across the board as well as making a ton of money. People who aren't autistic enjoy the film for what it was

>>83472760
Dude, the best parts of the clone wars animated series was the clones, and grievous

>>83471718
Star Wars is reddit incarnate. Kill yourself

>>83460604
Wow, THREE (3) videos?????????????

>>83476385
Actually, Attack of the Clones is my favorite prequel. Also it's better than any cape shit like The Dark Knight.

>>83460936
This picture actually convinces people to watch RLM

>>83476509
It gives more fuel for the next nerd crew vid.

Thanks Collider

>>83476501
wow that's impressive, are you willing to go more in depth with what you enjoy? what do you think about the romance plot?

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>>83474035
>>83462922
>>83468375
Luke Lucifer Skywalker is the greatest character in film history, go read your EU novels or whatever shitty comic books Disney is farting out. Fucking disgrace, you lot

>>83476538
Collider had nothing to do with that image.

>>83465963
How can anyone unironically watch Collider? They're living cliches

>>83476542
Romance that is similar to 90% of classic movies. That's what Lucas was going for.

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>>83476601
do you mean as a homage or satire? just trying to be clear here.

>>83474087
> watching star wars a for realistic portrayal of space

Sweetie....

>>83476392

You get a movie that isn't traditional SW but you can still put Star Wars in the title for +50% box office.

You are delusional if you think they won't be doing this in few years.

>>83476944
No one's going to care in a few years, Star Wars isn't going to be as big of a tentpole as Disney first thought, the hype for Last Jedi is already worryingly quiet

>>83460158
>any Disney Star Wars movie
>good

Rogue One fans are such fucking babies in the sense that their taste is so underdeveloped.

>>83468375

I honestly never met a Luke fan. Vader? Sure. Han? Yeah. But Luke?

Star Wars was always about the setting. That's why it became such a hit. People in the 70's felt like they were suddenly sucked into another amazing universe they dreamed about.

That's why it has more fan made stuff than anything else in history.

>>83474035
Which means that you were a pleb

>>83476996
>No one's going to care in a few years

Like no one cares about MCU right? Will you faggots ever learn?

Yes, they won't be making 2 billion $ anymore. But they will be pulling 600-800 million to 1b with every movie and that will keep it profitable for next 20 years.

>>83477035

Stop pretending that SW ever had well written characters.

Rogue One was fucking boring. I don't even remember the characters' names.

>>83477057
People are excited for the next Avengers, since the trailer for Last Jedi half the coverage has been Mark and Daisy bitching about the script. It's going to make it's sequel trilogy and then be a series of less and less successful one offs

>>83477082
Just because you are shit at social interaction doesn't mean that the characters are shit.

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Rogue One is WORSE than The Force Awakens.

The latter is safe and paint by numbers, but inoffensive by design. It's plot and characters are paper thin, but they're clear and concise.

Rogue One is a scatterbrained mess. The editing is atrocious, it's all over the place tonally, it's character arcs/motivation range from weak to nonexistant, and the plot is incoherent and comes across like they reshot half the film after the fact in an attempt to salvage it. (which they DID) And the icing on the shit cake? It is somehow MORE obnoxious with the blatant fan pandering than TFA, which is a feat I didn't even think was possible.

Anyone who defends Rogue One is a fucking idiot with zero standards. TFA may be boring, but at least it's competently put together even if it's a bland focus tested product.

>>83476997
How could you forget such memorable characters as Quipdroid and Disabled Forest Whittaker?

>>83474189
Flat earth guy, you fock.

>>83476844
If that's the case then no one needs a space ship and everyone should be able to magically teleport anywhere even places they've never been. And time doesn't matter and yesteryear, today and tomorrow is one in the same. Where do you draw the line, dummy?

>there was a good star wars movie released after 1980

>>83460194
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE END OF IT

>>83460604
>They made a whole THREE videos about a popular topic everyone's talking about

Wow geez what hack frauds

>>83465963
I thought RLM were strawmanning
I was wrong

>>83476572
Cliches exist because they are true

>>83477300
Lmao, if your gonna get butt blasted for a fantasy film not being scientifically accurate, you might as well just throw all of Star Wars into the trash

>everyone should be able to magically teleport anywhere

Im honestly surprised Lucas didn't try and make this into a real force ability. It sounds just dumb enough to be put in Star Wars

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>>83460516
>A BLOO BLOO

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>>83476385
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_considered_the_worst
I get people meming about the prequels being bad but calling them the worst movies of all time is really really retarded. It has a structure and follows through with its plot and story. Those films listed have serious inconsistencies and plot holes that render the films completely unwatchable. But only OT purists bitch about the prequels being bad because their entire cinematic perspective revolves around sci-fi and pop movies.

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>>83476392
>Like SW. If you tkae out storm troopers, tie fighter, xwings you get a movie that isnt star wars.

The prequels, TCW, comics and novels proved this 100% wrong though

>>83460194
Nicely put, have a you.

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>>83480999
>Those films listed have serious inconsistencies and plot holes that render the films completely unwatchable

>assassin hired to kill someone hires another assassin to kill that someone
>said assassin is a shapechanger but never uses it to assassinate the target
>she buys poisonous bugs instead and makes a droid drop them in target's room
>instead of just dropping a bomb there
>after plot fails assassin instead of just disappearing in crowd tries to attack jedi following him
>then assassin #1 kills him with special dart that is only produced on one planet in the universe
>that then leads the good guys directly to his home

If you think AotC is not a retarded mess full of plot holes that render the film completely unwatchable I have no words.

>>83460158
Simple, Disney forgot to send them a check for reviewing Rogue One.

>>83461270
>chud

Back to r/realocialismhasneverbeenattempted

>>83481308
They'd notice a bomb but not bugs, the point was to be subtle

>>83460158
>actual good star wars movie

Rogue One isn't good. It's not overtly bad, but it's not good. It's just mediocre, bland, and forgettable.
But you're right on all other accounts. They don't want to admit their original HitB review was wrong, and that they were blinded by fanboyism. They've done nothing but defend and double down since then

>>83460194
fpbp

>>83460158
I wonder if they're gonna hate Wonder Woman and say it's worse than GOTG2.

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Look at all this characterization! Just as good as Luke!

This Rebel helmet and fallen AT-AT that serve absolutely purpose in the story except as shoutouts? So bold!

Those AT-ATs and other original trilogy vehicles in the movie that takes place during the time of the original trilogy? Nothing but filler and shit-tier fanservice!

>>83460604
>RLM's entire popularity stems from their well-received video critiques of the prequels
>egos massively inflated because everyone takes their word as gospel on star wars
>put out shitty poorly-thought-out reviews of nu-starwars movies.
>people call you out on it
>panic and autistically screech because people are no longer taking your word as gospel
>double down over and over and try to browbeat the entire internet into agreeing with your shitty opinions

I wonder what they'll end up doing with the last jedi review.

>>83481643
> Look at all this characterization! Just as good as Luke!
Everything we need to know about Rey is established in the first 30 minutes visually. I'm sorry your attention span only last a couple seconds before you need to shitpost on /tv/ from your phone

>This Rebel helmet and fallen AT-AT that serve absolutely purpose in the story except as shoutouts? So bold!
It helps establish that Rey lives in the wreckage/shadow of a previous generation of Star Wars, a major theme in TFA. Also kind of re-establishes she wants an adventure off of Jakku

Try harder next time

>>83481308
Still my favorite prequel you nitpicking contrarian

>>83482363
Everything we need to know about Rey is told in the first 30 minutes because there's so little to her character that putting on a helmet and eating some food is enough.

>>83474035
>Even as a kid, all I cared about were the ships and the setting
Because you are a simple minded individual who lacks personality

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Op was a very small penis.

>>83460158
prequel movies are always, ALWAYS, garbage.

>>83460158
>hate Rogue One for over reliance on nostalgic references
>love TFA for rehashing the exact same story beats as the original movie

Yeah nah, fuck RedditLetterMedia

>>83483001
they hated rogue one because it was a sad, depressing, everyone fucking dies at the end, toneless, and pointless war movie, for a story that we already got a conclusion to 30 years ago (just like SW 1, 2, 3,); you fucking dunce

>>83482363
does it explain why she's all alone and for how long? we see in a flash back later on that she was orphaned at a very young age but what happened to the people looking after her? did the person holding her hand in the flash back raise her or was it just some hermit? did she raise herself?

It helps establish that Rey lives in the wreckage/shadow of a previous generation of Star Wars, a major theme in TFA

JJ was very overt with this, the new main character scavenging and picking off of what were
once well designed and crafted creations from a bygone era that are now decrepit pilfered shells to pawn off for food. mans gotta eat!

>>83483001
They hated Rogue One because it was a boring ass movie and the only thing it had was references. They liked TFA in spite of its references

>>83483433
They said RO had terrible characters, while at the same time praising the characters in TFA.

Granted, RO has shit characters, but the ones in TFA are equally trash.

>>83483548
Nothing will ever be as shit as the quipping blind asian wannabe-jedi.

>>83483148
Yes but making a new sequel which completely undoes the conclusion we got 30 years ago is no better.
>>83483433
Rogue One was not a good movie, but TFA was just as bad if not worse.

>>83483586
I'll take Ip Man over Rey or the nigger jarjar-knockoff any day

Expect RLM to give the same ironic exposure to all future Star Wars movies. Disney pays them well.

>RLM likes a Disney movie
fucking Disney shills REEEEE
>RLM dislikes a Disney movie
fucking Disney shills REEEEE

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I don't get how they see all the flaws in Rogue One and still not hate Force Awakens: A Rey Story. I hate both of these movies, they really are some of the worst two movies you can see to come out recently. So how do they bring up all the flaws with Rogue One but not see those same flaws in shitty force awakens?

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>>83484462
it's also funny when you think of the titanic and avatar plinkett reviews and how he rails on cynical cash in block busters that plays to the 'ignorant masses'. yeah, of course we know that plinkett is a character and over the top on purpose, but you can't say that at least basic idea mike was getting at wasn't serious.

>>83460270
So was tfa. what's your point ?

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>>83484664
Is it just a SJW thing? They refuse to hate the movie with the nigger and the PERFECT ABSOLUTELY PERFECT Rey?

>>83484462
TFA was entertaining.
R1 was painfully boring.

>>83484806
Both movies had a female protagonist and a black guy.
Why is TFA horrible SJW shit but R1 isn't?

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>>83484811
>TFA: A Rey Story was entertaining
No it wasn't, it was an out of pace mess with constant plot holes and terrible character development. Rey is the pilot, the scoundrel, the jedi, the princess, the fighter, and just about every other role the old Star Wars movies had. This way they can seem like the "character" actually has character. I'll agree, I had more fun laughing at TFA than I did watching Rogue One but they're both still complete trash.

>>83484836
Because TFA was directed by a kike looking to black out "the whitest fucking room in history" -JJ and because all the characters in Rogue One sucked equally instead of just the white characters being EVIL while the minorities need to stop them. Actually, you're right Rogue One is pretty heavily filled with bull shit. Either way, both movies are absolute garbage.

To be fair even if RLM were honest to themselves about TFA they still probably would have hated RO regardless.

>>83485188
They should RO is a terrible movie.

>>83468375
i liked luke when i was a kid

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another thing I find unnerving is in the tfa hitb episode, mike deflected criticism of rey picking up the force casually, saying that training with the force is just an idea from the prequels and all that really mattered was the characters journey
and development from the perspective of the story and in the prequels its like a video game.
whats terrible about this is I don't disagree with all he said but he tied it in this way which ignores that luke DID get mentoring and it was shown very progressively how his power in the force grew through out the whole trilogy, and also ignores that reys gets almost no character development and no real mentoring with the force.

>>83470283
most of the time they just crack jokes but when they do actual criticism its pretty good (mostly from jay)

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TFA is a better put together movie

RO is a better Star Wars movie

This is 100% fact

>>83471878
besides poe, all the main characters were pretty interesting

>>83460866
>they're backpedaling already

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will people who dislike RLM because they tactfully shit on their opinions always be triggered crybabies on this board?

>>83460866
>Mike on the stream
you liar

>>83485411
Exactly, there's something really off about their logic because it's clear they shouldn't like this movie unless somebody is handing over some moeny or they're just actually incredibly stupid and apply principles for some movies but not others.

>>83485516
But they're both trash.

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>>83485690
I don't care for you "ackshually, i think they both sucks for i am enlightened" memers

>>83485516
Except RO is nothing like Star Wars.

>>83481308
That was actually the best part of the movie lol

>>83460866
>can't stand by controversial opinion
>claim they were only pretending to be retarded

As someone who agreed with them on rogue one, this is disappointing.

>>83481535
>It's just mediocre, bland, and forgettable.
This is so accurate. I thought people were exaggerating when they said the Darth Vader hallway fight was the best part of the movie, but it really shows how awesome the movie could have been.

>>83485785
It isn't if you're a normie who only watches the movies and nothing more

>>83485924
>muh EU
kys

>>83463398
To me RO felt like Star -wars-. I really liked the opening where the star just poped out of nowhere or how they played with shadows over star destroyers and the death star

>>83485972
Just as I thought. Rogue One filters out another pleb normie that only watches the movies.

How's it feel to be on the same level as the women that pretend to like Star Wars?

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>successes made complacent by their own success
>critics unable to take criticism

I've seen this before.

>>83486021
>not taking shallow space fantasy for children very seriously
Feels pretty good.

>>83481040
>novels and comics
HAHAHAHA get a load of this asshole

I bought a lightning fast vcr repair shirt and they sent me one of those lame new nerd crew very cool shirts instead. Who is in charge of their shipping?

>>83472894
but you'l;l have to add, storm troopers, xwings and tie fighters. it literally a differnet scifi universe if you don't have those beats in your movie. hence the small universe.

also the novels had references to the force, stormtroopers xwings tie fighters so that argument is fucked.

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>>83486093
Yet here you are in a thread about said space fantasy

This is the last (You) you get from me, normie scum.

>>83486096
Mike is, there is a contact e-mail you got, and he responds.

>>83486171
I'm not taking this thread very seriously either.

Stay triggered, fat boy.

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>>83486171
>gets yelled at by a basement dweller

Oh heavens, the internet nerd isn't going to joust me with their knowledge of the star wars universe. I am vanquished.

Eat a dick

>>83485763
How is it possible to say they don't both suck? They both have the same flaws for the most part. Not everything in life is a fucking meme, hating a shitty movie isn't "meming" you fucking idiots today love your meme words