>there's been more shit seasons of House of Cards than

Seasons 2 and 3

robin wright. look it up.

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I can't believe the President is a literal cuck. He and his Wife have directly murdered people and ordered the deaths of several more. I can't believe they had their Bull living with them in the White House. I can't believe they discuss murder openly. I can't believe a lifelong Republican political consultant would switch sides like that. I can't believe Conway would unravel like that. I can't believe Tom Dumbasshit can't put together a coherent story. I can't believe a woman with no experience was made her husband's running mate. I can't believe the Secretary of State ended up in a Coma by falling 5 steps. I can't believe a guy who roleplayed as Frank's grandfather got assfucked and told the President he loves him in public. I can't believe a single NSA hacker was able to expertly hack the election and create fake intelligence. I can't believe none of the secret service leak anything. I can't believe Claire confessed her husband's murders to their Bull. I can't believe Frank after working for this his whole life willingly created the circumstances to his destruction. I can't believe they trusted Jane Davis after knowing her for a few months at MOST.

Most of all, I can't believe I watched this shit for 5 years

>>83456258
because Netflix doesn't know how and when to end their shows.

House of Cards should have ended this season (I'd say it should have ended with 2 seasons, but them giving up Kevin Spacey so quickly is unrealistice).
the Kyle Chandler show should have ended after 1 season
Narcos should have ended after 2 seasons (because PABLO 'THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SHOW' ESCOBAR IS DEAD, what the fuck are you even going to do for Season 3?)
they're even talking about renewing The Fall for another season when the fucking serial killer who was the focus of the whole show is dead. like for what purpose?

even the shows that do need additional seasons always have shitty last minute cliffhangers.

>>83457133
it seems like they're becoming aware of it and are not afraid to cancel stuff now (sense8, the get down, marco polo etc.)

also netflix has nothing to do with the fall, that's a british show that netlfix just buys the US broadcast rights to and calls it an "original"

>>83456258

The climb to the top is far more interesting than staying on top?

>>83457133
It's not like the show is called pablo, it's called narcos.

I thought it would never get as bad as season 3 ... I stand corrected... I turned it off after he threw the SoS down the stairs

Horrible horrible writing and direction ... also completely boring ... more happened from s01e01 to s01e04 then in the entire first 10 episodes of season 5

>>83456258
>shit propaganda series is shit
woah

>>83457133
>Narcos should have ended after 2 seasons (because PABLO 'THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SHOW' ESCOBAR IS DEAD what the fuck are you even going to do for Season 3?
Except it is called Narcos not Pablo. A bunch of shit still happened in Columbia during that time

why is frank such an irredeemable evil monster now? he used to be somewhat human in the first seasons. now he's literally the devil 24/7.

>>83456749
Don't cheat on my wife, Tom

This show is redpilled. It shows a Democratic President as a murderous idiotic scheming cuckold and murderer. Democrats are portrayed as crooked false-flagging election stealing frauds.

Redpilled.

>>83456258
It's a story about a tyrant who raises to power which really resonates with today's world.

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>tfw no more Frank eating ribs and rapping his knuckles as he plots to take down the people that fucked him over with Claire in a supporting roll as confidant and wing man, mostly sticking to her charity shit

Literally now "Move over silly bois: The Show" with Frank being dumb as fuck and throwing away everything he's spent the last 4 years explaining to us was the most important thing to him in the world. Madame President the super intelligent usurper takes orders from, and starts wars for, a woman that walked into her life a month ago.

>>83457435
I thought that scene where he throws Cathy down the stairs must have been some kind of dream sequence. But then the plot line continues after the title credits and it's never really mentioned or properly acknowledged again. Fucking terrible.

Robin Wright became executive producer

I'm 3 episodes into the newest season and its been incredibly boring. Does this season get better?

>>83459366
It gets more entertaining but also more stupid. Maybe they felt like Trump gave them liberty to do what ever they like, but I felt like they've shit all over characters, intelligence and nuance to service their stupid nonsensical plot lines.

>>83459366
i wouldn't bother watching the rest. Season 4 showed some signs of life but HoC is confirmed dead now, it's not even the same show that it was in the first two seasons.

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Was his master plan seriously to push her down 5 steps and hope she falls in a bad way?

>>83459343
This
>>83459634
Also this. Fucking Robin Wright ruined the show with her whole gurl power shit.

i've only watched the first 2 episodes of season 5 so far and it already feels like a different show

>>83459929
Different showrunners. It's completely fucked. Even reddit (!) is aware of how embarrassing the show is getting. Not only is this season shit, it completely devalues the excellent first two seasons.

Though it's POETRY that the show has been taken down by its own inner politics.

>>83456749
nailed it

>>83456258
Because it's American television.

The number of episodes in the British original? Twelve.

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>haha remember when I spent 4 seasons repeatedly telling you that the presidency was ultimate power and my goal in life, well actually I spent a night in the woods and realised I'm wrong so I'm resigning and giving the presidency to my wife so I can work in the private sector, an area I explicitly told you in S1 E1 was beneath me and not real power LMAO

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>>83456258
that tap water foreshadowing was so fucking awful
>>83460327

>>83460112
I was really looking forward to this, that will teach me to get my hopes up

>>83459634
Looks like a fucking skit.

>>83457133

A lot of their shows move very quickly in the first 2 seasons, then they begin to drag shit down to snail pace once something becomes very popular.

>>83457133
House of Cards was the only Netflix original that had moments of writing brilliance, specifically the first an second seasons. Keep in mind that it was also the first Netflix original series, so it had to be good in order to justify the company's transition from showing other people's TV shows to showing their own TV shows. Then they started pumping out other, inferior shows, but people watched them anyway because it had the Netflix Original "Seal of Approval," if you could call it that. I think they realized that they didn't have to try very hard because people will watch anything in their suggestions feed, so that's when the writing started to go downhill.

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THAT'S MY BOY

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>>83458651

>>83461568
A perfect female specimen.

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>>83460327
yeah in Season 1 Frank fucking hated the private sector, he said it wasn't real power like the Presidency

that's also why he looked down on that Billionaire Tusk guy who supported the former president, even with all his money he still needed the President to get some things done

>>83458580
holy shit this

>>83461500
why did she want sum fuk from him out of nowhere? did she think he'd protect her?

How FUCKING STUPID was LeAnn? She knows her old buddy hacker was probably murdered and she STILL gives up the only thing protecting her and then goes to a remote location away from people

Also that hacker was retarded, why didn't he have a Leak Release only in the event of his death? that is what smart leakers do to make their life worth more than their death

>>83461902
Thats even lower than a cuck. Also why the fuck did they had to make Frank half a fag, having that creep suck his dick and shit, fucking progressive hacks

>>83461394
I think Narcos is probably the best show that Netflix has tbf, but like HoC (for its good seasons) it also has a source (Goodfellas/Casino except with the Columbian Drug War) that it apes hard.

Not sure that they have an actually original show that rivals AMC's or HBO's output (their better shows, that is). Stranger Things is probably the closest.

>>83462057
First 2 seasons of Bloodline are incredible imo. The new one kind of feels like they're having to cut down 2 seasons into one because Netflix canceled it.

>>83462149
I loved the first season of Bloodline but hated the second, I still haven't finished it. It was so boring, and it seemed like half the drama (as far as I watched) was caused by Kevin being a gigantic retard. It almost seemed like the show would improve drastically if John just put him out of his misery.

>>83461942
>why did she want sum fuk from him out of nowhere? did she think he'd protect her?

They had some subtle hints of sexual tension all throughout the season, Also, she probably literally just needed sum fuk considering the stress.

One thing I really didn't understand is why she didn't just floor it in her Porche as soon as she saw the SUV coming instead of grabbing the gun.

Oh well, she's probably not dead anyway.

>>83462149
i like liked bloodline at first but they killed off danny way too early and utterly wasted ben mendelsohn. kevin was such an insufferable character to watch and john fixes everything plot armor got really old.

>>83461997
Kevin Spacey is gay and Frank has been gay since S1

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What did she mean by this?

>>83464271
I really wish him and his wife had an actual sexual relationship. Him being a cuck is boring and pathetic, not to mention distracting in every single HoC thread.

>>83457133
Mothafucker is right. Narcos could have easily filled the True detective niche in many ways.
While not as good, it nevertheless checks plenty of boxes
criminality/drugs, undercover shit, exotic setting, manhunt, wide diverse cast, two detectives figuring shit out, highly unusual case becoming a burden and filling the detectives lives, special period piece etc...

Narcos would have been AMAZING as an anthology. Each season with a new legendary drug dealer in a specific period/history based on a real case provides nearly limitless potential while keeping each season dense in action.

S02 was filler as fuck and now we're going to have a s03 based on the boring cali cartel.

In my hypothetical scenario, they could have made a season about the opium trade in the 1800s, frank Lucas in 70s nyw, post ww2 corsican connection story in france..

But the dumb fucks choose to do the one boring spanish speaking cartel after another strategy.

I never thought i'd miss zoe barnes so much. This show become the Tom Hammerschmidt show and end next season with Tom figuring everything out and proving it.

Made it to ep5 before I gave up. When Frank's just sitting and watching his wife sleep with another man is when I'd had enough.

Does his emasculation lead anywhere? Like does he snap and kill the writer? Or is he really just happy with being a literal cuck.

Im not even bothering with this latest season after everything I've heard about this shitshow thanks to Robin Wrights gurl power fantasy retconning and going against every single fucking motivating factor behind the main characters like Frank's goal in life to become president. She's made every part of this show do a complete 180 after it was already nearly fallen off completely in quality after Season 3.

Now its an absolute fucking mess. Someone get David Fincher back, PLEASE.

>>83465928
>PLEASE
kill yourself faggot

>>83456749
>that cold open where Remy and railing Claire without restraint while Frank masturbates faster than his old white body can handle

>>83466391
it's 'PLEASE kill yourself faggot.'

have some fucking manners anon.

>>83466414
Honestly, if it was Remy fucking Claire, it would be 10/10 instead of sleepy heroin faggot.

You guys are acting like children. Just because the show doesn't go the way you want it it doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. I hated season 3 because the whole "hurrr durrr muh gurl power" thing was uncalled for, but it really made sense for Frank to end up choosing the private sector. I mean, come on. There's a reason we spent two seasons watching his presidency take hit after hit. After a while it was obvious the presidency had to go to Claire in order to keep the power on Frank's side. I really think this season was kino, at least until the fucking ending. The cinematography wasn't great but whether you like to admit it or not, the writing was very interesting with tons of arcs going separately at the same time and entangling near the end. I was on the edge of my seat all the time, all the way until the fucking ending. I don't mind the president being a cuck. You have to accept it, it's a common issue in our time. Cuckoldry, I mean. Luckily our presidents only get cucked by your friend and neighbor, the private sector. Deal with it, faggots. It could have been worse: Tom Yates could have been a fucking nigger. What's worse, a nigger who writes. Wtf is up with that? I want to make something very clear, though: The ending makes no sense. Why the shit would Claire trust Jane Davis more than Frank? And why the fucking hell wouldn't she pardon him? To me, that's the only thing that didn't make sense in this season. Almost every other complain you anons have is about your shitty expectations, political opinions and sexual insecurities. Of course most garbage today comes with a free message from the Jews, but this is a self aware enough show, treat it as such and enjoy it or waste your time watching stuff you hate like you always do.

And give me a link to the Twin Peaks episode 5 leak I'm fucking tired of waiting.

>>83456258
The show sucked after season 1. I only still watch because of Kevin Spacey's acting, I enjoy his intensity in the show. Besides that, it's a flop. Thank Robin Wright for that.

Getting rid of the ribs was when I knew the show was gonna go downhill, but S2 ended so perfectly that I forgave it.

Then S3 happened...

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>>83456258
>Rochelle...Rochelle

He actually said it, the actual madman.

I HATED this season because I'm deaf in one ear and couldn't keep up with what was happening.

>>83459343
executive producer is an empty title. kevin spacey is an executive producer.

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>Don't cheat on my wife

>>83459301

I was waiting for him to wake up on the couch or something but it turned out to be real.
Such a shitty and boring ploy to get rid of the Cathy problem.
This show really went downhill this season...

>>83465621
> When Frank's just sitting and watching his wife sleep with another man
I busted up laughing at this, I couldn't believe that they had reached this point. Tom was a mistake.

>>83459231
>rapping his knuckles
holy shit

He didn't even do it once this season

>>83467622
somewhere in one of the middle episodes he did. he said something to the effect of "still alive" then rapped his ring on the desk.

>>83466414
You bbc cucks sure do love to self insert

>>83464271
I wish he would come out if he is gay in real life.

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the election plot made no sense to me. But they made it worse by hiding who won the house, who won the senate, and then acting like each state had one vote in the house when the 1824 each state had votes equal to the number of seats in the house.
Claire only gets in because "Maine owes me [LeAnn] a favor" and then Republicans just say, "Wow, Maine, didn't see that one coming" :^)

And then they're like "oh no we're gonna do a 2nd vote in Tennessee and Ohio, but apparently Tennessee no longer counts," even though I could've sworn Conway said he only needed to win one or the other to have 270, while Frank needed to win both

BUT THEN they're like "Oh yeah we're gonna have a secret bilderberg meeting inna woods where the two candidates will court the rich cabals that will somehow rig the election to whoever impresses them the most. But LOL NONE OF THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS, here's a recording of Conway yelling at his pilots. It's just deus ex machina after deus ex machina.

>>83467904
the show has been like this since episode 1

>>83458651
It's not like the Republicans are any better. Francis and Claire might as well have PSYCHOPATH etched in their foreheads, yet they still play everyone around them for fools.

>>83456258
>>83456749
Please notice that the cuck arc started EXACTLY when Robyn Wright (Claire) took over the production. Which she did after throwing a shitfit that she's earning less than Spacey.

Either way I stopped watching this show. It's just not interesting to me anymore.

>>83467400
made me chuckle

>>83457133
>The Fall for another season when the fucking serial killer who was the focus of the whole show is dead. like for what purpose?
About fucking time, never understood how people could keep watching that recycle factory.

>>83461394
Then they are going to be no better than the average network, is great that they are trying to be the champion of expensive TV shows but if you are just going to be the typical "fund 100 keep 10, advertise 5" then is worth shit.

And the cycle goes on.

>>83457557
>somewhat human in the first seasons
he murdered a bitch in the beginning of season 2 dude

>>83469608
>dude
and so what?

>>83459301
Ditto. Thought for sure it was a dream sequence.

This whole season is shit. Can't believe they didn't wrap the show up already; really they could have ended it last season.

>>83465129
Is Narcos s3 confirmed even about Colombia? (I like the anthology idea; follow some Mexican drug kingpin or whatever)

I mean it dropped in writing quality, yes but everything else is still excellent in my opinion. For example the acting is stone cold on point and perfect, the lighting, the sets, the costumes, the editing it's all fucking insane. So as far as I see it even with the very mediocre writing, the budget and production value still makes this show very watchable. It's lost its thrill and underlying wit but it's quite comfy to watch with its pace and character interactions. Boring might fit as a description, but it's boring on a high level.

Honestly didn't hate the season most of the time I was watching it, but the ending was so fucking stupid. How exactly is she going to cold shoulder frank? Murder him? Thats literally the only option where he doesn't torch everything. Absolute nonsense. Lot of things could be argued but I don't really disagree if Frank changed his mind to private being the real power, as its frankly true IRL. But with his wife as prez he could get crazy shit done on an unfathomnable level.

>>83456749
>I can't believe the President is a literal cuck.
give the webm of the cucking

>>83470544
I'd probably blame the writing more than anything else, it's not really the actors fault but after 5 seasons why does it feel like Frank, Claire and Cathy were written by someone that hand only read the synopsis? Doug was the only long term character that still seemed to "fit" and the new characters just seemed to come out of nowhere. Frank had been president for what, 2 years at this point? And all of a sudden there's a magical mystery woman that knows everyone in the fucking world and is sketchy as fuck. I'm rambling but the writing was seriously fucking atrocious this season.

>>83470944
And after double checking, I am not surprised that the last two episodes were directed by Robin.

>>83469899

Yes it's about the Cali Cartel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgXpnfw6Wk

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>Frank has been chased by his murder of Zoe for the last 2 seasons
>realises that shit from the past will always come back to haunt you
>Tom and Leann are murdered off the cuff and without regard

>>83467904
>And then they're like "oh no we're gonna do a 2nd vote in Tennessee and Ohio, but apparently Tennessee no longer counts," even though I could've sworn Conway said he only needed to win one or the other to have 270, while Frank needed to win both

Yeah this was fucking bad. They explicitly said that Conway could win with just Tennessee.

>this scene is completely devalued now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb5dEtNIKZk

>>83472263
Should have ended it right there.

>>83456258
Netflix is more concerned with quantity of shows rather than quality. They got what they wanted out of house of cards from the get. Won some awards now they can shove it your face no matter how bad it gets

>>83456258
>It's a "Claire is a petulant child even though Frank gives her everything she asks for" season
So much wasted potential...

>>83464311
That we need to watch her tired face even more in the next season.

>>83459634
this shit is just funny

>>83459634
I only reacted with mild confusion at this scene because the show was already heading towards its inevitably bad season ending.

why did they turn Frank into Trump?

Robin Wright destroyed this show.

>>83460327
>well actually I spent a night in the woods and realised I'm wrong
It was actually because he tripped and fell, so the realization actually came to him within the span of a coupel of seconds. Some truly genius stuff right there.

>>83473431
The satire and parody was all over the fucking place in this season. They couldn't decide which characters were mimicking which real life politicians. So they seemed to take a pic'n'mix approach. They should have ignored the Trump administration and last year's campaigns and stuck to their own story.

>>83473834
Apart from what the /pol/ shitposters spam here with, I don't really pay attention to US politics, didn't really notice any Trump jabs.

What were they?

>>83473980
There was a pretty overt Comey jab during the FBI agent's testimony, but I don't remember an explicit trump reference during the season.

>>83474069
The Trump stuff was heavily implied, though

>>83460225
This.

>>83472263
why the fuck didnt the show end right fucking there. It would've been perfect.

>>83473980
>>83474069
Frank's speech at the of episode 12:

>You don't actually need me to stand for anything. You just need me to stand, to be the strong man, the man of action. It doesn't matter what I say. It doesn't matter what I do. Just as long as I'm doing something, you're happy to be along for the ride. And frankly I don't blame you. With all the foolishness and indecision in your lives, why not a man like me? I don't apologise. In the end I don't care whether you love me or you hate me, just as long as I win.

>>83464311

But it was always her turn.

>>83474838
because this is american tv show, they never fucking know when to end appropriately

either drag out too fucking long for money that even OG showrunner left or cancel too soon because muh rating isn't high enough

also the reason season 1-2 was so strong because it took the backbone story from the british version, when they start to have writing their own shit it went to the shitter real quick

>>83475633
>also the reason season 1-2 was so strong because it took the backbone story from the british version, when they start to have writing their own shit it went to the shitter real quick

even without watching the british show the quality falloff is STEEP and obvious, makes alot of sense though.

>either drag out too fucking long for money that even OG showrunner left or cancel too soon because muh rating isn't high enough

that's american television in a nutshell. Netflix is like 100x worse since they never know when to actually quit a show and move the fuck on.

House of Cards couldve been a legendary show even if it ended at Season 3, but oh no we're another 2 more season in and Robin Wright has had a big hand in destroying this once god tier tv show.

>>83475790
>>83475790
i honestly thought this season is the end before this, but somehow i have a feeling they gonna drag it out for another 2 seasons with their shitty pace

also fuck robin wright and her whining about her pay, kevin spacey is the real fucking deal and a lot if not most people watch the show because of him despite the quality dip. goddamn, she isn't even the best female character in the show cathy, jackie and even the new ms davis are all better than her
i fucking hope she got killed by frank in the show like he said he would if he didn't get pardoned

>>83457557
>why is frank such an irredeemable evil monster now?
Literally the first thing that happens in the first episode is him strangling a dog staring coldly into the camera.

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DUDE stop being sexist, pay me as much as the guy who's the only reason the show was greenlit in the first place LMAO

>>83476076
tbf for him, the context of that action was the dog got hit by a car and won't survive anyway (i think, can't remember for sure)

but yeah frank was ruthless from the beginning

>>83476089
What do you mean he has a Oscar and is actually known by people? PAY ME MORE

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>>83476089
look, all I want is to eat her pussy until she cums in my mouth. DWI

Netflix should give another show to Kevin Spacey, say what you will about the show but the man knows how to carry a show

>>83476260
2 oscars. It's ridiculous that she's on as much money as him. When the show became about "the Underwoods" and not Frank, it went to shit. Claire became a boring character a long time ago.

>>83476089
muh female che guevara
I don't know why she thought Claire would be a more interesting character if she went against her own insterests and acted irrationally and bitchy for the sake of being an irrational bitch

>>83476260
man, the man himself has 2 fucking oscar, a tony, a golden globe and starred as iconic leads in some of the most famous movies

meanwhile this bitch who almost gave forrest gump aids want more pay, BITCH PLEASE

>>83476375

hey she got beaten and probably raped by Sean Penn too

>>83476346
>>83476375
But she has a vagina and a huge jaw she deserves to be paid equally. Fuck her stopped watching the second they shifted from Frank.

>>83476315
just make sure there are some younger actors role in the show for kevin to make out with

>>83460327

Are you fucking serious? Claire is president now!??!! I stopped watching at season 2

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>83476937
Yeah. She became Frank's running mate and then takes over when he resigns.

>>83475481
Plus the usual things like "Not my President" being slammed in there and a woman taking power while the man is a fucking retard the entire time

Seriously, Frank going to talk to Walker before the testimony made about as much sense as Frank suddenly deciding back in the woods to resign for Claire to take power or bringing back reenactment actor man to be a very trusted character to give one gay scene with Frank to.

How do they forget that Frank only really trusts Doug and the Agent who died for Frank last season?

This season looked like you could just walk into the White House and get a job in the Underwood administration.

I thought about picking the show up again but after what Ive read there is no way
How the fuck is Claire still around? She was a fucking problem in Season 1 when she straight up betrays Frank over a stupid fucking charity and then fucks some photo guy for like a week
She did nothing useful from the beginning and betrayed him very early on
Also isnt half her character supposed to be she has more of a heart than Frank
She has had lord knows how many aborted arcs that have led nowhere and has never helped Frank sincerely once

>>83456331
This.

>Becomes a producer
>Now her character has to have more things to do
>None of the things her character does makes sense
>She's an active detriment to the show
>Can't even act, has constant resting bitchface.
>Demands the same pay as Spacey because MUH FEMINISM despite not being able to act her way out of a paper bag.

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If you didn't stop watching this shit show after the first season edned you should kill yourself. If you want to watch a well thought out version of House of cards that spans a few season watch the original British series.

Is Scream kill? I must know.

>>83479045
>You don't think that the deep divisions in society are even partly to blame? You're quite happy with the way things are?
> Indeed, I am not. There is a deep division in society today, between those who want to work and enjoy the fruits of their labours and abide by and uphold the laws of the land, and an increasing number of what it has become fashionable to call the disaffected, the disadvantaged, the differently-motivated — what we used to call lazy people, dishonest people, people who don't want to take responsibility for their actions or their lives.
> So you don't feel inclined to do anything about the situation?
> On the contrary. I decided that the time has come to take quite drastic action. We're going to bring back National Service as the first step in a large-scale programme of public works. We're going to get our young people — all our young people — off their backsides. We're going to put a large investment into Britain's future. And we're damned well going to get our money's worth. I have a great belief in Britain, you know. We are not a nation of social workers, or clients of social workers. We are not, please God, a nation of deserving cases. We are a fierce, proud nation, and we are still, God willing, a nation to be reckoned with!
There is some good shit in there

>>83461568
Who dat

>>83479108
>>83479199
kill yourself

>>83465129
>Narcos would have been AMAZING as an anthology.

I originally thought that was what they were going for.

>>83479108
I don't think so.
>no body
>Frank himself shut the feed off between seeing her get killed
>no point in having her and Doug hook up unless she brings him to his senses and they work together to bring down the Underwoods
>it would be nice to see Frank's "dude just kill everyone lmao" plans blow up in his face

>>83459634
Honestly i thought this was the funniest scene this season. His blank expression and when theu ahow Kathy in the corner. She just looks drunk and passed out

>>83479045
Season 2 was great.

>Dude I'm so drunk right now lol here have this secret recording I have of your opponent
>Hopefully pushing this lady down five stairs puts her in a coma because otherwise I'm in trouble
>I'd like to trust Stamper, my right hand of decades, but this crazy old blonde bitch and this amoral Republican seem like better advisers
>Hopefully my gay lover larping as my great grandfather hops the White House fence and gets shot because otherwise he could say some embarrassing things
>Tom Yates is the worst character in the history of television
>Wow being Press Secretary is a pretty important job - I better blab all my secrets to some gladhanding negro just because he bought me a Bud Light
>Wouldn't want to try outrunning a SUV in my Porsche - that just seems impossible
I have no idea how people get jobs as screenwriters

>>83479704
Maybe, can't really remember too much of it. The thing I do know is season 3 was when things truly went to shit. Kept watching hoping it would improve in the fourth season but I couldn't stomach it so i dropped the show a few episodes into the fourth season.

>>83479364
No u, fat boy

The surveillance shit in the final 3 episodes was so fucking contrived. There's no way a guy like Frank wouldn't already be usually such measures if they were available to him. And you just know that it'll entirely be forgotten about in the next season, even though they're be situations where Claire and/or Frank could really benefit from monitoring phones and computers.

>>83479768
Fourth season was actually a bit of a rebirth after the s3 abortion. It's what gave me hope for this season.

2 > 1 > 4 > 5 >3

>>83479108
Hope so. Another shit character.

>>83479728
This season was laughably bad.

>Conway goes full retard like all of Frank's enemies
>this tenacious congressman is a formidable adversary and squeaky clean - oh nevermind he took part in a gangrape in college

>>83480775
Pissed me off that the truth about Conway's mission was never revealed. They teased it for several episodes.

>>83480879
That and the American in Antarctica. Just glossed over. But let's have five hours of Yates scenes.

>>83480879
I thought they were building towards him being some sort of stolen valor fraud and this would be the reason for his downfall...but it turned out they decided to go with some literally who spilling the beans because he was drunk at the Bohemian Grove

>>83480900
Tom is one of the worst fucking characters in any series ever. Tom and Claire scenes are unwatchable.

>the president goes on public bike rides with his boyfriend and lets him make intimate gestures in broad daylight

Was Frank's missing buttbuddy ever resolved?

>>83481122
>Claire suggests murdering Frank's buddy who knew he was gay but that's okay

>multiple hot women want Stamper's creepy dick

I couldn't get past early season 3.

I'm glad the new season sounds so ridiculous or I'd be tempted to soldier through.

>>83481417
I really wish I hadn't watched this season. I mean it really is just completely awful now.

>>83481144
No. There's a lot of loose plot threads in this season. Like different writing teams wrote each episode.

ICO is hiding under our beds guise

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>*breaks fourth wall*
>dude lmao i always knew you guys were here
>*takes presidency*
what did she mean by this?

I couldn't even finish season 4

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>watching past season 1

Francis Urquhart v. Francis Underwood (the actual Frank from Season 1 & 2, not the Skrull who took his place later on)
who wins?

>>83481836
DUDE we really wish Hillary had won LMAO

>>83456258

Because it was shit from the start and never made a goddamn lick of sense in the first place.

House of Cards UK > House of Cards US

>>83482718
Season 1 and 2 were really good though.

>>83456258

All US popular shows start sucking well before they get cancelled as the writers are desperately trying to stretch out a premise that's run it's course

Unlike most or all of you, I actually like Robin Wright's character, I mean I really used to, but I really can't deny that they're only ruining her character in particular and the show in general with all the retarded plot decisions. They watered down the resolutions of all the major plotlines of the previous seasons (what the fuck was Yates for, what the fuck was terrorism for and about, what the fuck was the NSA guy for, why do they have this bullshit hammerschmidt thing that resulted in frank saying haha dats me). All the fresh things they introduced weren't smart or interesting either. I mean, the show's watchable and they can shit out dozens of seasons like this one but the show's just just not keeping you at the edge of the seat

>>83456258
Is it wrong that I stopped watching the new season to rewatch 21 instead?

>>83483164
Most people like s1 Claire.

So in just over three years House of Cards had

>one president resigning
>his unelected VP taking over
>president chooses his wife as running mate
>president gets shot
>two states literally cancel voting based on "intelligence"
>they rerun the vote in two states months after the election
>another president resigns
>first female president declares war on syria just days into her term

How are there not fucking riots? I would expect a civil war.

>>83456749
The first two seasons were absolute kino too ;-;
Life is suffering

>>83479916
More like 4>>>>>5
The original showrunners left, there is no redeeming HoC anymore

>>83456258

The journey is better than the result. Him getting there is way better than him trying to stay there.

>>83483164
Everybody liked her before she threw a tantrum about gay dude and screwed Frank in Russia

>>83484990
Well, now she's a different character since she changes every season, the current iteration doesn't seem to care about muh casualties. God knows why she had to care about them that time, it was a plot device, probably

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"Clyde Donovan, new student body president. Do I like him? No. Do I believe in him? What the fuck do you think? Er, but that's beside the point. Any kid that can convince the fifth-graders to vote for him has done something few can. That, or he just showed them a picture of his dead mom's tits. But nevertheless, look at that winning smile, those trusting eyes. Ugh. Yeah, I hate them, too. Makes me sick. But apparently, these simple-minded sheep eat it all up. Anyway, I helped him win. Bribing kindergartners and stuffing ballot boxes; all that shit. And so, here we are.

"There's Token, that black asshole, and his bitch. Because he's rich, he was put in charge of the bookkeeping. And because he's black, he was put in charge of providing bass guitar music during the campaign. Now, personally, I hate Token. I hate Token so much. In fact, just last week—

"Anyway, Clyde may be president now, but that's only a title. You see, it's not who has the title but who wields the power in that title. And when it is all said and done, it'll be me, Eric Theodore Cartman, running the school with Clyde as my bitch.

"Welcome to South Park."

The only way to possibly redeem it at this point is if Frank goes nuclear and kills everyone.

>>83486158
And dies of liver cancer

>>83456749
it hurts more because I genuinely enjoyed the first two seasons

>>83459634
was this not an SNL skit?

>>83458775
You like this show

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say something nice about her

>>83486720
It's her turn.

>>83486720
I liked her in Princess Bride.

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>>83456258
The show became shit the moment Claire got soft in that Russian prison because oh-no-the-gay-plight. She went from threatening a woman's unborn baby to wanting to change policy based on some homo stranger.

Emblematic of what is wrong with TV today.

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>>83486720
damn, Robin Wright, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your leathery body and horrific bony hexagenarian face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me

>>83486720
She was a good character when she was sticking to her charity shit and helping Frank when opportunities arose. Then there was an obvious decision to prop her up to Frank's level and make the show about the pair of them instead of just him. It fucked her character.

>being president is the one thing i want
>*is president*
>well its time to resign and work in the private sector

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>>83456749
>>83470728

>Pollyhop tech
>Antarctica guy
>Augustus Underwood

Why are they dropping so many scifi hints?

>>83487047
Them having an open relationship was one thing, but there was no fucking reason to turn Frank into this much of a cuckold.

>>83487134
What was that shit about the American on the boat *being* the secret technology?

>>83487199
It was just dropped. Like Conway's war past.

>>83487215
>Like Conway's war past
And Frank's buttbuddy going missing on the river.

>>83464311
SHILLARY ?

>>83487199
>>83487215
>>83487323
they need to have something for S6 and onwards now don't they

>>83487416
They'll come up with something new, they're so creative they never reuse material like that

>>83456749
All of this sums up my feelings on the show.

Jane Davis fucking pisses me off. Are you shitting me? They ask why does she have the clearance? No answer.

Why would Claire trust her? Why would anyone believe in Claire? Francis has been doing this for 30 years. All Claire has done is contribute advice, fuck him, cry, cuck him and emotionally support him.

How would a husband and wife be on the same ticket? In fact, that's actually a WASTE.

The First Lady has a lot of influence, her own staff, her own projects etc. By combining both that and the Vice-President's Office they actually have LESS power than if a trusted player was VP.

Holy shit.

So Frank is still being pursued off the Zoe kill, and Claire cums on a man's cock while murdering him and trusts a man they met a few months ago who was working for their ENEMY and is still affiliated with the other party to "clean it up"?

They also wrote Conway to be a punk all of a sudden, instead of the cunning sociopathic JFK/Eisenhower mash up he was before.

Then Frank gambles EVERYTHING by pushing the fucking Secretary of State down the stairs


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Guys I want to fuck Secretary Durant. I find her incredibly attractive for some reason. Anyone else?

>>83487416
But Conway is done as a character.

And it raises the question why didn't they use the war thing they were clearly building up to in order to take him down. Instead it's a random outburst and Pollyhop guy gets drunk and gives the recording to Frank.

>>83456258
Don't cheat on my show, anon.
*Fucks guy who roleplayed as my dead confederate grandfather*

>>83476346
Your wing there. The show was always about the Underwoods, but somewhere in season two the word decided to arbitrarily introduce conflict in the marriage for cheap drama.

House of cards was always at its best when it was about to utterly amoral individuals in a true partnership.

The WORST thing about this season is that terrible character Jane Davis.
She appears in the middle of season 5, just up and appears with very little introduction, we've never even heard of this woman before, and suddenly she has the Underwoods trust and is advising them left and right on everything.
To top it off, she happens to be some big time deep-state spymaster who works for something bigger than the US Government and the Underwoods are totally fine with this and not unnerved in the slightest. It was such a massive tonal departure for this edgy and perfect character to suddenly just walk into Season 5 and every scene I saw her in made me confused and a little bit sad that the show I've loved for years is throwing in ex-machina characters ad-hoc.

Am I alone in utterly hating Jane Davis???

>>83465129
>boring cali cartel

They did crazier stuff than Pablo tbqh

>>83489104
literally MADAME DEUS EX MACHINA. the writing is shit

>>83456258
It was always edgy dogshit.

Remember when Frank LITERALLY pissed on his Father's grave?

I don't know what anyone was expecting.

>>83488244
you aren't alone

>>83487163
They should have just been having threesomes like with Meechum RIP. then it would have been a little less hilarious

>>83489060
Go look at the posters for each of the seasons. They used to just feature Frank.

>>83489952
Wasn't that season 3? Everyone recognises that as trash.

You're all idiots. Tom was BASED.

Came from nothing. Wrote highly successful novels. Living the dream reviewing video games. Literally cucking the President of the United States. Fucking the Vice-President of the United States without a condom in the President's residence. Advising the 2nd most powerful person in the world. Fucking Press Sluts in the Briefing Room. Pissing off lifelong political operatives.

He died while the President of the United States came on his cock. He died like a champ.

B A S E D T O M

>>83490552
Right. Everyone should have known there was no hope for the show then.

>>83490591
there's only one based Tom and he's a journalist

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>it's a tom yates scene

jesus fucking christ NO ONE CARES

why is he literally the 3rd main character of the show this season? fucking show writers making it all about themselves.

>>83476134
>Ah hahv no pashuns foah useless pain
It was to illustrate that the guy is a psychopath. He wasn't putting the dog down to ease its pain, he did it because it offended his sensibilities.

>>83489104
i have literally no idea who this old witch is and suddenly she's come out of no where to become the most powerful person on the show this season

this show is stupid

>>83490591
Still doesn't make any of his scenes watchable. He sucks the life out of the show.

I only really like Frank and Hammerschmidt scenes at this point. The wave of new characters are contrived as fuck and most of the original characters are stale.

>>83474069
There was a #NeverUnderwood sign in the trailer lol

>>83489104
Nope, that old leathery hag, with her quirky bag and massive connections all of a sudden being the most powerful gurrrl power person of the show. Fuck this season

>>83490884
Even Based Hammer's efforts are ultimately pointless.

>that illuminati camping trip

Fucking lol this show is beyond ridiculous at this point

>>83491631
it's based on a real thing, look up bohemian grove

Has there ever been a more pointless subbplot in the history of television than the gay guy in this season

>>83491675
Crazy stuff, truth is stranger than fiction I guess

>One such documented example was former president, Richard Nixon's comments from a May 13, 1971 recording that: "The Bohemian Grove (an elite, secrecy-filled gathering outside San Francisco), which I attend from time to time. It is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine..."

kek

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>>83491937

>incumbent Democratic president literally shuts down voting in a red state and a swing state
>civil war does not erupt

>>83459231
As soon as Frank stopped visiting the ribs shop I knew the show had gone to shit.

what was the reason for francis to leak shit about himself? I still can't get it.

why did they ruin conway so fast? it was like they didn't know what to do with him. he was so awesome last season

>>83492260
>what was the reason for francis to leak shit about himself?
Bad writing.
>why did they ruin conway so fast
Bad writing. They alluded to something suspicious about his military record and I found myself watching mostly to find out what the mystery of it was but they simply abandoned what might have been an interesting plotline for some drunk guy at the Bohemian Grove handing Frank a secret recording.

Why didn't Conway talk about his best friend Linden?

>>83460327
So is Frank even the main character anymore?
Robin Wright is fucking evil irl man

>>83492389
yeh, but she's hot though

>>83464311
Robin's power fantasy

>>83492260
>why did they ruin conway so fast?

I asked myself the same. We watched it together with my sister, according to her they wante to show it that Connway was "too human and honest" to become the president, and not a monster like the Underwoods.

>>83492507
>"too human and honest" to become the president
That's what Zuckerberg implies but we've seen Conway being a cunt.

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>>83476310
I wonder if I could ever get away with saying my blowjob fetish is for people with high IQs.

>>83456749
house of cards copy-pasta

wonder how Spacey feels about Robin and his character getting cucked constantly.

>>83478861
>She has had lord knows how many aborted arcs that have led nowhere and has never helped Frank sincerely once
That's not the only thing she had aborted

>>83491823
they deal with Frank's apparent bisexuality in a very annoying, limp-wristed way that they might as well not allude to it at all. five seasons and numerous head nods to Tim Corbet, drawing turkey hands with Meechum, Yates trying to seduce him, and now the personal trainer/reenactor...all just nipped in the bud with no follow-through. maybe they're waiting for the last season to wrap that part of Frank up.

The season was great, it turned shit after the election.

The tension about the election was epic afther that it went shit.
Nothing is making any sense now.

Claire is always in an another different mood. In one season she is a heartless bitch (destroying her lover the photographer because he jeopardized franks career, in one season she is crying and bitching for everything (muh random faggot died at Putins prison so I ruin the relationship of the us and russia) and leaving francis for her lover. Now on this season she is a heartless bitch again and she kills her lover. lol

If we are talking about him Tom was fucking useless. What was the reason for him to be there? Complete waste of time. I thought he is the leaker in that case his presence would be justified, but something like this doesn't even make sense.

Francis did everything for 4 reason to become the president, now he is resigning and he was the leak. Whaat?

Connway was fucking awesome, a literal Chad with a hot wife, and they make him crazy when the plot didn't need him anymore and they threw him away like a dirty toilet paper.

It was a fucking disappointment.

>>83484990
That should have been the point where Frank decides to take her out and gain sympathy points for his election (while also isolating himself from everybody else).

>>83464311

ITS HER TURN ANON

>>83482574
Urquhart easily
>Never actually made a mistake in the first two series except for the tapes he had no idea about
>Is an actual war veteran that knows how to use weapons
>Actually enjoys what he is doing and doesnt just do it for a power fetish
>Is effective at actually governing
>Actually makes friends and allies that never realize he is the one screwing them over
>Has an impressive tenure as PM
>Stages terrorist attacks much better
It would be awesome if the Urquhart actor was alive so he could meet underwood as Britains PM

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>>83490751
>we want the 50 shades of grey audience
Got you, senpai

>>83492260
He wanted to control the message. He knew Tom would eventually figure out the truth, so he decided to mislead him into thinking it was Doug's doing. It was believable enough for Tom to take the bait.

>>83489952
That was so beyond retarded
Despite having no point to it beyond edgyness with the way the press actually works some asshole with a phone camera would have snuck in and caught a photo most likely
That would doom his presidency for a little stunt

>>83483022
its

>>83492738
Im almost more annoyed because the idea of having a second or first lady and now VP who has openly and proudly admitted to having abortions is an interesting idea to explore
But no even her abortions plot got aborted

>>83489952
You clearly had a great relationship with your dead.

When i saw that scene I just managed to force my mom to leave my dad who is a fucking violent fucktard. When I saw that scene I was like "I would do the same"

>>83492260
>why did they ruin conway so fast? it was like they didn't know what to do with him. he was so awesome last season
because ever since S3, whenever one of Frank's antagonists has him in a corner, they just give them a sudden case of the retardeds to get Frank out of it. they did the same thing with Dunbar and Petrov last season.

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The ONLY way to save the show.

Bring her back :3

Here is what the writers had to say about Claire and Tom
> It was heavily debated. Part of what we were grappling with is how is Claire really Frank’s equal? On a certain level, she’s not his equal until her hands are as dirty as his. Until she can prove that she’s willing to stop at nothing to get what she wants. Claire’s ambition is a major theme this season, so, of course, it had to be justified. It was actually really painful. It was painful to write and shoot. [Tom] is a beloved character. And I believe that a real depth and love had developed in that relationship. It was the highest price she had to pay.

>>83493937
that's not rachel

>>83493941
>[Tom] is a beloved character. And I believe that a real depth and love had developed in that relationship.
How do these fucking writers have jobs? Some goons from /tv/ could put a better script together

>>83493959
undead rachel? sure, might as well at this point.

>>83473980

How about the fact that the entire election was rigged?

>>83494022
i'd be satisfied with some flashbacks
or tom finds a 100% lookalike

>>83493941
>[Tom] is a beloved character
Fucking hacks

I honestly thought this season would be great since S4 was better than 3. It started off good, but around the half way line it started to deteriorate again.

>>83494046
Wouldnt that be more in line with what Trump said during the campaign?
He often hinted at political insiders rigging the election in their favor from the White House or the government
If Petrov and Frank came to a deal to rig the election using hacking that would be a dig at Trump

>>83494172
Nah, the original showunners left after S4

>>83494176
They literally hacked the election.

>>83494176

The Democrats definitely fucked Sanders over. But honestly the way Francis was going about doing whatever it took to make sure Conway didn't win, and just how unpopular it made him with the public, I saw the parallels between him and Trump a lot more.

>>83494337

And especially since Trump has been accused of hacking the election (with RUssian help) since day 0, although no one can actually prove it.

>>83456258
>fucking loved S1
>started watching S2 but got burned out and forgot about it
>seems like the entire series went to shit in the meantime
Fuck. Should I just watch the British version and forget about it?

>>83494417
S1, S2 and S4 are good, the rest is shit
Up to you

>>83493941
you know, it really says something when The Legend of fucking Korra handled sacrificing a loved one for ambition better than this show. they just made Claire looked like a weird psychopath by poisoning Tom (and then still fucking his corpse) rather than showing her making any kind of sacrifice.

>>83494337
I guess I just dont see it because the obvious Clinton parallels have just been in my mind for so long with the show
But it would be so beyond stupid to try to make Frank into Trump, they arent alike at all besides being men

Claire was weakest part but I still liked the season, it felt even darker and more sinister

>>83493941
Her killing Tom made no sense other than as a rite of passage for Claire for a writing team that have fetishised her character. He was out of the picture and was never going to publish the book that would have destroyed the woman he loved. Episodes 12 and 13 were such fucking nonsense. Tom is one of the worst characters I've ever encounter across any show. He slowed down literally every episode he featured in. I'm not one of those people that's on their phone when they watch a movie or a series but I found myself fiddling with my phone when Tom and Claire scenes were on. It was like my brain was unconsciously willing me to stop watching that shit. If this show is even going to have a chance of being redeemed then the writing team are going to have to fucking appreciate that people started watching this show for Kevin Spacey as Frank. Stop propping up Claire as Frank 2.0. She's a fucking obnoxious and uninteresting character.

>>83494417
Even after the disappointments of s3 and s5 and how stupid its all getting, I'm still going to watch them wrap up the story. The show's productions are still really sleek.

>>83494532
Well its especially frustrating where Frank 1.0 is almost a complete failure at this point so who even cares about 2.0
The Russian guy makes sense as a Frank counterpart and a worthy adversary, coming from a country where what Frank did to come to power is just a regular tuesday in their politics
In fact Frank becoming more and more close to a Putin like regime would be very interesting
But no lets have the dumb wife character be his equal when no one gave a shit about her
If you needed betrayal from someone on the inside make it Doug, they guy who already knows his tactics
All of this ignores too that with all the events that had happened in American politics due to the Underwoods stability would be crazy low

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>Not even Doug is safe from the Underwoods
W-why bros? All he wants is to make Frank happy

>>83494693
isn't that what he's doing right now? being the fall guy for franky?

>>83494693
He was completely on board with that

I just finished watching. This show now officially ends at Season 2 for me. Holy shit this shit was retarded. I liked the whole rigging of the election. That was it. Fuck these idiotic characters and Claire can fuck off.

>>83494686
Would make more sense if they cut all the impeachment bs after the election, never hired that old hag and just focused on the "we make the terror" theme while destroying democratic institutions, opponents, and waging a war etc to justify it

>>83494617
there was a drop in quality this season

>>83494686
S3 was when they needed to take the show onto the world's stage and pit Frank against other world leaders that had all come to power just like him. Instead they increased the emphasis on Claire. Such a shit decision. Now we're rehashing Frank vs Claire. So uninspiring.

>>83494760
>>83494780
He was clearly disappointed but did it out of dedication to Frank
Franknigger is now out of loyal allies

>>83456749
>president is a literal cuck
Did you forget the whole first season where he was fucking a 23 year old? If he's a cuck, she's a cuckqueen

>>83494532
>Episodes 12 and 13 were such fucking nonsense

I'll give you two guesses on who the director was for the final two episodes was.

>>83494955
fincher?

>>83494864
At the very least if they wanted deep state shit they should have the character be like the CIA director from Nixon
It would make sense a CIA guy had been behind the scenes and could appear with a lot of power connections when he feels like it
Also something creepily off should exist in such a character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRVyaKnGcA

>>83489104
I like the idea of a deep-state diplomat. I don't mind her being a homely grandma type character. I hate how she was introduced. I hate how she trusts claire for no reason and i hate how claire trusts her for no reason.

why was Claire upset about Frank and Tim's college relationship?

"Don't cheat on my wife, Tom."

That singular sentence made me go "wut" more than anything i've ever seen in house of cards. Fuck me, as bad as the show got in Season three and four there was at least still good writing, now in Season 5 it doesn't even have that anymore.

The only thing still good about this fucking show is Kevin Spacey's elder god-tier acting that can make even the shitty dialogue they've written for him somehow work.

I wonder wtf Kevin spacey's thinking, he's rich, insanely popular and doesn't need to put up with any of this shit like Robin Wrights power Trips if he doesn't have to. I seriously don't understand why the fuck he's still in the show unless he genuinely thinks this is all A-Ok.

>>83494955
She wasn't writing them tho, it's the writing that made them garbage, not directing per se

>>83487199
He probably researched some technology for drilling through ice. Drilling though ice is really hard, by the way, because ice drifts.

>>83495006
I think they were showing signs of Claire desiring Frank or being jealous that he doesn't seem to feel much for her romantically. You know, the scenes where she seems to push Tom away alot in the start or leaves Tom to go cuddle/chill with Frank.

I thought the Tim jealousy was playing into that as well, but then she suddenly fell 100% in love with Tom 10 episodes in so I don't fucking know anymore.

>>83494973
Wrong.
>>83495011
It's obvious that she fucking around with it for herself. She's an EP, Director and """main"""" character

>>83495009
>I seriously don't understand why the fuck he's still in the show
Probably gives him brownie points and he probably doesn't want to potentially ruin his career by ticking off the easily rattled feminists who have a strangle hold on television and film.

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>>83495011
>a director/producer never calls for writing changes

>>83495009
>I wonder wtf Kevin spacey's thinking, he's rich, insanely popular and doesn't need to put up with any of this shit like Robin Wrights power Trips if he doesn't have to. I seriously don't understand why the fuck he's still in the show unless he genuinely thinks this is all A-Ok.

Contracts and industry pressure.

Even for popular actors, being known to walk away from something that hasn't "finished" can be damaging.

>>83495009
and that's why you're just another guy rambling on an imageboard and not kevin spacey

>>83495081
You might be right, but we don't know for sure how much input she has. What I know, is that she was whining like a bitch about muh glass ceiling and muh equal pay very recently, enough for me to dislike her. Why the hell does she expect to get paid as much as Kevin Spacey?

>>83495011
>dat Cathy stair scene

>>83467904
how about when they set up conway's military heroics being fraudulent, but then never doing anything with it
how about when we literally never see or hear about the conway's after episode 8 or whatever

>>83494975
Well, sorry, I'm afraid they're not even gonna namedrop US government positions anymore, it's all about Jane Davis and Claire's sis-mance. Oh, and buttmad Frank who gets fucked over by Claire again and again because she was the smartest one in their relationship all along!

>>83495160

Um don't you know until everyone gets paid exactly the same wage no matter their job, skills or experience, we'll never live in an inclusive and diverse society?!?!?!?!

>Robin Wright is usurping inside and outside the show

P O T T E R Y

I guess she was house of cards all along.

>>83495252
B R A V O N O L A N

>>83456258
How bad is this season so far?

I stuck with it the past 4. I thought 3 was pretty obnoxious but 4 kinda made it up.

But after watching the trailer for season 5 I seriously cringed so hard at the "One nation Underwood" line. Like that was waay too fuckin corny for me, and really killed any interest in me wanting to check out this current season

>>83495318
first half until election is nice then it's shit

>>83495185
yeah what the fuck was that plotline about? They were implying he faked the story but that never went anywhere.

>>83493941
>Claire's ambition is a major theme this season
plus this >>>>>83494532
is why I'm glad I dropped this garbage after s3.

>>83495318
It drags the fuck on with horribly slow """""character development"""""" and has been largely unsatisfying since episode 3. I'm in the middle of episode 7 now and am just watching to get to the end but it's frustrating how tedious and nonsensical it is now

>>83494371
>no one can actually prove it.
Even the NY Times admits that "there is no evidence"

>>83495318
there's not a whole lot of actual plot this season after a certain point tbf, just a cacophony of random shit happening. a bunch of filler and repetitive scenes with Tom and Claire, and Frank and Claire are characterized in a wildly inconsistent way throughout.

it's almost like all the writers were given a rough outline for the season, then wrote their own episodes with no communication between them at all.

>>83495616
It seemed to be kinda coherent at the start with the election and shit, apart from characters not being themselves, but after the whole Elysian fields bit it all went to shit.

This entire season felt like a waste of time. If anything, I'll be more careful with what I waste 13 hours of my life with for now on. Thanks House of Cards

Fuck this gay earth. EVERY FUCKING SEASON Claire tries to fucking sabotage Frank, when does it fucking end. Also, if the writers want to prop up Claire as Frank's equal, then why the fuck do they make her fail everything she does.

Every. Fucking. Oppertunity she's been handed this show she's fucked up, if they wanted her to appear hyper competant why do they keep letting her fail?

Fuck this show.

Why the fuck do they need some kind of digusting faggot scene in every season? Is it Spacey's doing?

>>83495847

With Meechum I thought it made sense, just another way of getting power over him.

With Augustus Gloop it made no sense, maybe he was looking for something because he was jealous of Tom and Claire?

>>83495739

I dropped in season 4 because it was becoming the Robin Wright show.