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>live in UK
>decide to subscribe to Amazon's new live streaming TV service, thinking its as simple as that.
>TV licensing agency tells you that even if you already pay Amazon for the service every month, you still need to pay the £147 per year license fee that people who have antennas have to pay.

Anybody else glad they don't live in the UK?

Americans: Imagine paying for cable TV and then being forced to pay a license fee on top of that. This is how cucked Britbongs are.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/05/27/amazon-uk-tv-licence-fee/
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>>83271879
cringe
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>>83271879
the only winning move is to NEVER PAY
this is fucking WAR you mong
stop empowering people who hate you
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>After i moved out i never got a stupid fucking tv license since I have the internet
>TV is in my bedroom hooked up to playstation and laptop
>about a month after moving in, get knock on door, its the tv inspector
>He asks if i watch tv, and asks to come in when i say no
>He looks over my tv, and see's that an antenna could potentially be plugged into the back, issues me a fine and says if I don't like it i have to go to court
>Laugh and call him a cunt
>He smiles on his way out
>Did my research, got a shitty lawyer and we discussed everything, and I show that I have never had an antenna or digital cable running into my house, that its hooked up to multipe other things but not normal tv, that he moved my tv around before asking me looking for antenna cords and found non
>Judge sighs, and asks if the tv inspector has any pictures of antenna cables or even the behind of my tv that day
>tv inspector says no
>case dismissed, government pays my expenses
>I smile at the inspector on the way out


Since then i've had what appears to be tv people knock on my door a few times every year, i just don't bother answering
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>>83271879
yeah, we basically do. they just call them "universal service funds" and "regulatory fees" and other shit like that. basically, they're indirect taxes
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Is it true eurofags are getting prosecuted for watching fooseball games on kodi hence all this TV license. If thats true...lmao at your fucking lives.
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>>83271879
But isn't the TV license to cover the BBC, how can they justify adding it to someone else's service?
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>>83273290
Because Amazon has BBC programming on there? Only thing that could justify it
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>>83273290
if you watch live tv or view iplayer, you need a tv licence. it is that simple. it doesn't matter how you receive the tv signal.
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>>83273152
Enjoy your net neutrality, Comcast faggot.
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>>83273152
>brits
>euro
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>>83271879
Anyone with a brain doesn't pay it
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>>83273460
I will laddy :)
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Aren't you already technically paying for some kind of publicly funded TV anyway?
Isn't that what PBS is?
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>it's an American singles out Britain for something that most of the western world does in a much less reasonable way
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Worked a week to pay the fucking license and then failed the test. They don't even give you a refund if you flunk. I watched 12 hours of fucking Coronation Street for nothing. I hate this fucking country
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>>83273574
This is how they go about collecting the money to pay for it instead of taking it from taxes like every other country does.
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>>83273054
You don't have to let them in do you? You can just say "no" when they ask to come in right?
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>>83273777
Yep
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>>83273787
I heard they had tv detectors, but I think that was for the old tube type tvs.
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>>83273054
You know, I wouldn't believe this story, would just think it was one of those exaggerated, fanciful tales. But I have seen this exact sequence of events (other than the lawyer and court hearing, of course) take place several times, from people in the UK recording cunt tv license people trying to get into their houses and harassing them.

What the fuck is wrong with the UK? This seems like a fucking joke but it's real.
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>>83273830
It's a company trying to collect profits. They're basically private enterprise repo men without any legal recourse.
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>>83273054
>Housemates pay TV license without asking anyone on the expectation that I will pay them back
>Never watch live TV
>Cause a massive argument by telling them to get fucked
>One guy literally turns the TV off when I walk into the room
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>>83273819

No evidence of them ever being used. They had modified vans / minibuses drive around but they were a scare tactic.

All they have is a postcode database of the UK. Ones who paid have a green tick, ones who haven't have a red tick, ones who haven't & have informed them have an orange tick.

Capita go to areas with a large number of red ticks and try to catch people out by answering loaded questions, catching them with TV on, etc.

They get a commission so tend to bullshit people to get them to pay.

They also target poor people.
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Was britain always a creepy police state, or is this a thing of recent decades, like when america went full retard against drugs in the 70s, and created the redundant DEA, and now you have sheriff's departments playing soldier kicking your door down for a couple plants, and after Columbine kids getting handcuffed for drawing guns, etc.
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>>83273460
t r i g g e r e d
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>>83274084
>CCTV on every street corner
>TV licences required
>Taxed on everything
>Police armed with assault rifles on every street
>Government publicly advertises their right to spy on you like it's a good thing
>Crime is still out of hand
>You can't even defend yourself in your own home

The UK has all the downsides of being a police state with none of the benefits.
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>>83274153
Except most of those things aren't true.
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>>83273585
>>83273777
>>83273607
>>83273460
Lmao, Bongistan trying to larp as a developed nation yet again

>>83273585
>>it's an American singles out Britain for something that most of the western world does in a much less reasonable way

My bad dude. I'm so sorry that in America, the only people we have to let into our houses have the word "police" written on their vests, and even then they need a warrant.

Im so sorry that in the "developed, 1st world country that is Britain" has private companies that pay goons to come to your house and demand they take a look inside, and are also liable to take you to court if you don't comply.

There are some states in America in which if someone did that and ignored posted signs, they could be shot. No questions asked.
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>>83274353
>they could be shot. No questions asked

Isn't that standard police procedure in America?
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In my country there's a tax that you have to pay even if you don't own a TV, but people with low incomes don't have to pay.
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>>83274213
I live in the UK and its suffering.

Thank fuck I moved to a comfy rural house.
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>>83273777

You can say no, but then if they suspect you are 'stealing tv' and refusing to let them in, they'll get the police with a warrant to enter your property and check to see if your tv is plugged into an antenna.

But what happened to me, the guy checked instead if my tv could have an antenna plugged in at all, and since it could he issued me a fine which i later beat in court.

I just never answer the door to them full stop now to avoid their scheming.

>>83273830

The UK introduced tv in a very weird way unlike the USA, the state funds tv instead of advertising. Some other European nations also have a tv license/ no advertisement model but its slowly phasing out everywhere.

I'm very suprised the UK appears to be keeping it in the long term, even trying to force people who stream tv to get a license. During my court case I read that even if you watch old BBC shows on youtube either on their official page or by some random uploader, you have to get a license for that.
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>>83274696
No. It's only ever been about "live" T.V. I don't know why they specifically have a hard-on for that but it's never been any different.
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>>83273777
You have the right to refuse access unless they have a warrant.

http://tv-licensing.blogspot.com/2008/08/tv-licensing-rights-of-access.html
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>>83273585
In Japan, they pay the doorknockers 50% commission to get television licenses. They are rather aggressive, and will stand out of site of door cameras.
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>>83275323
On what grounds can said warrant be acquired by them? If it´s a a simple, routine matter, refusing access only delays the inevitable.
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The trade off is the UK has high quality television programming and news that actually delivers the news.

In America, on the other hand, you have entire generations brainwashed by the likes of Hannity.
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>>83275370
If you think state tv anywhere is not propaganda, you are a moron.
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>>83271879

What the fuck is this shitty journalism?

I just read the article and followed up on the link they provide about the BBC asking for licence fees. That article literally gives ZERO mention about it.

This is some top tier click bait.
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>>83275365
A legal warrant, as in from a judge.
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>>83275459
Not to the degree that Fox, MSNBC and CNN is. Especially Fox. Whereas the other stations distort the truth, Fox just straight up makes shit up.
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>>83274696
It is supposed to be live TV, and on demand. I suppose they want to argue that YouTube is an on demand service. I imagine that some day they will get a warrant to search your internet history, and see if you've been watching BBC shows on YouTube, or maybe just demand from Google all the IPs that have watched any BBC shows on YouTube in the last year, and compare it with those that haven't paid their licenses.
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>>83274084
UK has always had an overbearing government.
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Hey. Um.. can you call me bud or pal next time? Mate makes me feel uneasy, it's way to close to intercourse or fucking. Thanks pal.
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Just run in a circle and they'll never catch you.
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>>83275370
Ah, yes, the always above board BBC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_controversies
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what a bizarre country. England is trying to catch up to France in terms of importing low IQ brown people and destroying their cultural identity. somehow meth head rednecks and chimps getting shot by police is a bad thing and having vast swathes of your country literally under sharia law is superior.
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I think the craziest part is that if you even just open your door, that automatically allows the tv inspector to enter your house, with or without your permission.
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>>83273290
They should just fund the BBC with tax dollars instead of this stupid licensing scheme where they have to send out the license police to collect and put up ads threatening people who don't pay up.

Like how PBS works here in America.
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>>83271879
>TV licensing agency tells you that even if you already pay Amazon for the service every month, you still need to pay the £147 per year license fee that people who have antennas have to pay.
You need a First Amendment, dude. This is not just the right to speech, but the right to distribute speech unfettered.

The US has government-funded TV, too (though much smaller) and it comes from general funds. There are no Nazis running around checking if you are being communicated to.
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>>83275558
>complaining about police that try to arrest people instead of shooting them to death
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>>83275613
Not so.

In fact, it is in your best interest to open the door to them, so that you can tell them not to come around ever again.

"It is well established that an implied right of access to a property exists for those that have a legitimate reason to be on the property. This implied right allows the caller to come to the front door/gate if they have legitimate business with the occupier. If they are asked to leave then the implied right no longer applies.

"Requests to withdraw the implied right of access must be respected as TV Licensing Enquiry Officers would be committing trespass if they visited the address after the right of access had been withdrawn."
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>>83271879
the TV license is supposed to fund BBC programming
it makes no sense here since you already pay for the service
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>>83274636
>>83274153
I also live in the UK, and you're bullshitting.
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>tfw tv license is more expensive, harder to avoid and they're delivering an infinitely shittier product in germany yet only the UK always gets memed on

I feel insulted
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>>83276020
no one even wants to waste their time mocking you germany. go start a world war or something
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>>83274896
>I don't know why they specifically have a hard-on for that but it's never been any different.

What does BBC stand for? (and don't say Big Black Cock)

>>83274696
Hate the licence fee all you want, its clearly an outdated system.

But to be honest I don't know why you want the American model of corporations paying for TV instead of the audience.

From here it seems like their TV, unless they are actually paying for it, is always cheap, low quality shit with way more ad breaks then our advert channels do.

And then they're always complaining about media bias (the whole fox news meme), which seems to come directly from which corporations are filling the channel's pockets.
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>>83275839
You wouldn't be. You'd be paying Amazon to receive it for you, but not the BBC to broadcast, which is covered by the licence fee.
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>>83276385
>I don't know why you want the American model of corporations paying for TV instead of the audience.
It's called freedom, and the behavior arises in the absence of powerful men controlling things with police for their own benefit.

If government produced quality stuff, why do you care if free people produce their own stuff and offer it to you, too?

That this overwhelms smaller countries' TV as people shift to watch US stuff is what drives stupid "minimum local content" laws -- you can't compete...even with government subsidies????
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>be britcuck
>making over 32K cuckcoins per year
>40% income tax
>on top of this forced to pay for garbage healthcare insurance
>go to the shop to buy toast
>20% tax
>guns are spooky, better ban them completely!
>so are pepper sprays
Don't worry Britcucks, your goverment is taking good care of you!
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>>83276553
>Its an American dodges the criticism claims that arbitrarily claim they are more 'free' episode.
>Despite the fact 'powerful men controlling things with police for their own benefit' fits America far better than Britain.
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>>83275815
Making an american pig run is worse than punching him. Of course he's gonna dump his mag on you.
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>>83276385
>From here it seems like their TV, unless they are actually paying for it, is always cheap, low quality shit with way more ad breaks then our advert channels do.
Our ad breaks are like five minutes in length and we get two per 30 minute episode, three five minute ad breaks if it's a sixty minute time slot (episode amounts to about forty-five minutes of time).
>And then they're always complaining about media bias (the whole fox news meme), which seems to come directly from which corporations are filling the channel's pockets.
The BBC is JUST AS BAD as CNN. During the Brexit debate every piece it ran was biased as fuck, never daring to list the positive traits of leaving the EU referendum, the BBC always tries to run hits on figures like Nigel Farage but masks them as "interviews" and "fair moderated debates" (although Farage is always smart enough to beat them at their own game).

Then we get diversity quotas in our shows, a Doctor Who episode set in Victorian (I think) London featured a mostly black cast. When a time travelling character asks "lot more black people than I thought there'd be" another responds with "so was Jesus, history's a white wash". Then a later episode of Doctor Who lectured us on the evils of capitalism while the BBC is trying to fine or imprison people for refusing to pay their yearly free to a private organisation.

You also seem to imply that our television is cheap unless we're paying for it. All BBC shows feel like student projects. All feel cheap and amateurish. Terrible all across the board, shit writing, sets, cinematography, actors, awful drama, all British television is like this, but the BBC especially, the one channel we actually pay for.

The model of having the audience paying for the TV is equally as toxic, if not more, than having corporations fund TV. The BBC is worse than Fox news and is CNN-tier. We may be paying for it but it's still nothing more than a propaganda machine.
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>>83273054
Is this one of those crab legs Kino stories? I actually can't tell
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>>83273830
The (((BBC))) wants it's shekels so it can destroy the public's mind. The BBC for the most part is a disgusting entity fuck them. I would love it if it was dismantled
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>>83273054
TV inspector?

Jesus christ I am so glad I dont live in a third world country
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>>83276726
When it comes to television entertainment, the US outdoes the UK because of the free market, and much of that is exported to the UK.
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>it's an "Americans are so insecure they have to constantly talk about Europe (actually only one country because they don't know the others)" episode
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>>83276784
>tfw home kino inspector knocks during my home penis inspection
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>>83276011
Not that guy but you're a deluded fool. Another greentext I would like to add is
>go to jail if you're mean on twitter
This country is a fucking joke. Americans and Canadians love to piss and moan about their housing market but they ain't got nothing on us. Grey terraced houses the size of shoeboxes for absurd prices. In Canada and US your houses may be expensive (still cheaper than ours) but at least your houses are of decent size. Our houses are subhuman living conditions.

It's hilarious despite how intense of a police state we are, crime is fucking rampant everywhere, this is a third world country. Despite the recent terrorist attack at the concert in Manchester and the hit and run at Westminster, our only saving grace seems to be MI5. I'm not sure if it's just a James Bond meme or what but apparently they're really good at their job, which is impressive considering our high Muslim population.
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>>83275370
The BBC is CNN-tier you deluded fool.
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Should white brits be forced to pay for BBC when it's not aimed towards white brits and demonizes them constantly?
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How do I move to the US lads?
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Britcuck tax sheckels are sure used well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gkxm6bKtsk
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>>83276892
Jesus Christ grow up, you fucking clown. Go and live in a real third world country for a few weeks and you'll soon realize what a spoiled, ungrateful little faggot you are.

Also don't pretend Americans aren't being shafted by the thought police because bills passed lately are just as bad as anything in Europe.
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A TV license? Literally what?
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>>83276958
As a Britbong it's not easy. If you're a minority such a Muslim, African or whatever they'll pay YOU to come in. If you're a hardworking white, you're pretty much fucked.

Three realistic options
a) marry an American woman, grants you automatic citizenship, but by doing this you risk half of everything you own and future alimony on a fucking coin toss
b) H1B visa, work for a company in the UK that has branches in the US and hope that the company politics develop in a way that they want to move people from the UK branch to the US branch. You can only receive a H1B visa if the company itself funds it (costs tens of thousands of dollars) so you have to be valuable employee for the company to consider doing this. Not only this, when you get a H1B visa you must hold it for about four years before you can apply for citizenship and the visa only lasts for about 3 years, so you have to hope your company will renew it for the final year
c) inject half a million dollars into the US economy

Trump is busy fighting the deep state at the moment, but he's aware whitey is getting outnumbered in the US by low IQ minorities breeding like rabbits. When (and if) he defeats the deep state he'll make it easier for (white) Brits to immigrate to the US so he can try and get the white population back on track in the US.


Trump is our only hope of escaping the UK.
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I've never understood the problem of not paying. I moved out of my mum and dads' when I was 19 and have never paid them anything in 10 years and counting. I get letters occasionally that don't even have my name on it because they have no idea who I am or who lives here, and I've never had a visit from anyone. Not that I'd let them in if I did. They have no legal powers. Just don't pay. Don't contact them. Don't talk to them. Just ignore them.
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>>83276981
>Also don't pretend Americans aren't being shafted by the thought police because bills passed lately are just as bad as anything in Europe.
Yet no one has been prosecuted for being a meany on Twitter. I don't believe any of these "bills" you speak of will make an impact. Stereotypical Americans don't strike me as the sort of people who'll let the state of the UK take over in the US.

You've been brainwashed into thinking what we have are acceptable living standards.
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>>83277071
Hmmm yes definitely sounds like a safe country for the white man to escape to.
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>>83271879

The license pays for the BBC and ensures a standard of TV in excess of Burgerstan. It would be a simple tax if the BBC weren't so worried about successive governments fucking with it.

TV in the UK would be far, far worse without the BBC. It acts as a standard keeper. Yes not everything on the BBC is amazing, but it produces a higher volume of novel content than american networks. The news is at least sort-of impartial, even if it mainly acts as a echo for the right-wing press.


We'd be far worse off without it.
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>>83277110
New York has laws that mean you can be fined $250,000 for using incorrect gender pronouns. Go and live there if you want and pretend you're any better off.
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>>83277121
The US is superior to the UK in every way (except healthcare).

Brits are cucked beyond belief and we will be outbred by Muslims. Americans would never allow something like that to happen. A civil war would happen before the Muslim population reached a certain point.

>>83277186
Has there ever been an instance of someone being fined due to this? I doubt it. No country is perfect, especially with all these brainwashed liberals trying to shit everything up, but the police state of the UK is infinitely worse than the land of the US.
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Is it literally just BBC you guys fund or are there other channels too? Because BBC shows are pretty shit unless you like 10 different milquetoast period dramas about rich people and their servants.
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>>83277152
>Yes not everything on the BBC is amazing, but it produces a higher volume of novel content than american networks. The news is at least sort-of impartial, even if it mainly acts as a echo for the right-wing press.
I cant believe what I'm reading.

>>83277233
Yes, it's just the BBC we fund. Our TV license fees go towards a propaganda machine that doesn't dare tell us the benefits of Brexit, constantly calls Trump a racist and produces absolute shit tier shows like Doctor Who.
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>>83276674
>Be Americuck
>Have no sense of empiricism because calling out lies messes with muh Free Speech, and so must be censored.
>Government system not only weak to, but essentially built around getting licking corporate busybodies scrotum.
>No longer need the high food production that they have, but if they don't half the country will starve, because they won't be able to afford the food rotting on the shelves.
>Still loads of unemployment, meaning a yank is either corn stuffed fat retards or desperate uneducated and undernourished.
>Despite this have a tenancy to desperately pretend that because their country is powerful that they are generally better off than European countries, though mostly they live in wooden shacks with a standard of living barely above the third world.
>Because of this they constantly mistake British working class families in council houses for being upper middle class
>Also rife with gun crime, which mixes well with those thin wooden walls.
>Because of the gun crime, police (who are often ridiculously under trained) have a shoot first ask questions later policy, and even when they haven't drawn their guns, are famous for brutalising civilians for shits and giggles.
>Next to no class fluidity, because they make the rather odd mistake that if they chant the word 'freedom' and work hard enough for their corporate masters it'll mean they aren't a serf.
>And maybe if they work hard enough, they'll be able to afford to get a bullet removed at their private healthcare system, or move into one of the many empty wooden shacks they couldn't afford.
>But hay, at least they don't have to pay for TV!
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>>83276020

> Learning enough german to shitpost about them.

Who has the time honestly.
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>>83276783

>The BBC is JUST AS BAD as CNN. During the Brexit debate every piece it ran was biased as fuck, never daring to list the positive traits of leaving the EU referendum, the BBC always tries to run hits on figures like Nigel Farage but masks them as "interviews" and "fair moderated debates" (although Farage is always smart enough to beat them at their own game).

The BBC has given farage far, far more media appearances over the last 5-10 years than his position ever dictated. He was the leader of a small protest party and owes most of his success to being on QT or the news every other week. The BBC did him a huge favour. Ultimately it acts as a reflection of the print press which is right wing as fuck.

>Then we get diversity quotas in our shows, a Doctor Who episode set in Victorian (I think) London featured a mostly black cast. When a time travelling character asks "lot more black people than I thought there'd be" another responds with "so was Jesus, history's a white wash". Then a later episode of Doctor Who lectured us on the evils of capitalism while the BBC is trying to fine or imprison people for refusing to pay their yearly free to a private organisation.

I couldn't care less about black people in a story about a fucking time-travelling alien. Does it really matter?

> You also seem to imply that our television is cheap unless we're paying for it. All BBC shows feel like student projects. All feel cheap and amateurish. Terrible all across the board, shit writing, sets, cinematography, actors, awful drama, all British television is like this, but the BBC especially, the one channel we actually pay for.

Depends on the show. The BBC can't throw money at things like american studios, but the things that are invested in like Downton Abbey and Attenborough documentaries are fantastic.
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>>83277222
>Americans would never allow something like that to happen.
> 54%
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>>83277152
>even if it mainly acts as a echo for the right-wing press
fucking lmao
You guys can't even criticise the sandniggers that are raping your daughters without going to jail, how the fuck is BBC a right wing echo chamber?
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>>83277265
>I cant believe what I'm reading.

Use your words. What's upset you?
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>>83275459
this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUxJqvPiaYk
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>>83277328
>The BBC has given farage far, far more media appearances over the last 5-10 years than his position ever dictated. He was the leader of a small protest party and owes most of his success to being on QT or the news every other week. The BBC did him a huge favour. Ultimately it acts as a reflection of the print press which is right wing as fuck.
Except for the fact all of his appearances were actual hit pieces masked as "interviews" or "fairly moderated debates". Farage has great verbal IQ so he was able to beat them at their own game. A lesser man would've been steamrolled by their attempts.
>I couldn't care less about black people in a story about a fucking time-travelling alien. Does it really matter?
Good goy.
>Depends on the show. The BBC can't throw money at things like american studios, but the things that are invested in like Downton Abbey and Attenborough documentaries are fantastic.
Their nature documentaries are fine, I'll give you that, but any drama and news coverage they produce is pure garbage.
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>>83277351
>news is sort-of impartial
Not it is not.
>acts as a echo for the right-wing press
Blatant lie. BBC is a leftist propaganda machine, completely biased.
>but it produces a higher volume of novel content than american networks
It just produces low budget Victorian / Tudor / Medevil period pieces with atrocious writing. Merlin was the only thing I've really liked and that was atrocious, but there was something endearing about it at least. The modern shit like Doctor Who or Sherlock, do I even need to comment? The absolute state of British television.
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>>83277374

Even if they were "hit pieces" it didn't matter. He got so much space to repeat his arguments over and over, even the stuff routinely proven to be rubbish. It had the same result as covering Donald Trump over and over because he's "good TV" in the US.

I'm far more concerned with the right-wing bias on the BBC, uncritical parroting of the Daily Mail's agenda, general opposition to left-wing economic arguments and slavish dedication to the status-quo than darkies on TV. I appreciate that the beeb's london-centricity lends it to having a more diverse cast than is seen anywhere else in the country, but that's symptomatic of a larger problem of our country becoming more and more london-centric as wealth and power are consolidated in the capital.
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>>83275558
>YakkitySax.mp3
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>>83277281
>Have no sense of empiricism because calling out lies messes with muh Free Speech, and so must be censored.
any sources?
meanwhile you get jailed in Britain for insulting muslims
http://www.businessinsider.com/in-britain-police-arrest-twitter-and-facebook-users-if-they-make-anti-muslim-statements-2013-5
>Government system not only weak to, but essentially built around getting licking corporate busybodies scrotum.
true for every single goverment on earth
good thing US goverment is not as big as the European goverments!
>No longer need the high food production that they have, but if they don't half the country will starve, because they won't be able to afford the food rotting on the shelves.
what are you even trying to say you fucktard?
>Still loads of unemployment, meaning a yank is either corn stuffed fat retards or desperate uneducated and undernourished.
For april 2017: US unemployment 4.4% UK: 4.6%
>Despite this have a tenancy to desperately pretend that because their country is powerful that they are generally better off than European countries, though mostly they live in wooden shacks with a standard of living barely above the third world.
the delusion, lmao
>Because of this they constantly mistake British working class families in council houses for being upper middle class
the typical British house in a city is a small terracced grey house all the way from worlking to middle class
>Also rife with gun crime, which mixes well with those thin wooden walls.
>Because of the gun crime, police (who are often ridiculously under trained) have a shoot first ask questions later policy, and even when they haven't drawn their guns, are famous for brutalising civilians for shits and giggles.
at least US police is allowed to have guns
>Next to no class fluidity, because they make the rather odd mistake that if they chant the word 'freedom' and work hard enough for their corporate masters it'll mean they aren't a serf.
nonsense, US middle class richer than EU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Zr9-gXpkA
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>>83277490
>right-wing bias on the BBC
bait-poster confirmed
here's another (you) for you
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>>83276783
>A fictional Sci-Fi pulp show has black people in it..
>Therefore the BBC, who give equal time and platform to a one seat party as they do to Labour and the Tories, are not even trying to be impartial.
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>>83277281
>Be american
>Stop reading yuropoors butthurt blogpost
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>>83275480
Kill yourself you stupid faggot
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>>83277490
>Even if they were "hit pieces" it didn't matter. He got so much space to repeat his arguments over and over, even the stuff routinely proven to be rubbish. It had the same result as covering Donald Trump over and over because he's "good TV" in the US.
Yes and it's clear the BBC's intention was to not portray Farage in a positive light, it was their intention to destroy his image.
>I'm far more concerned with the right-wing bias on the BBC, uncritical parroting of the Daily Mail's agenda, general opposition to left-wing economic arguments and slavish dedication to the status-quo than darkies on TV.
Yeah, like refusing to broadcast the benefits of Brexit, doing nothing but stating remain is unanimously our only choice, especially if you have a high IQ. The BBC's whole argument for remain was only smart people vote remain, then you get impressionable low IQ university students who are incapable of independent research because they're monumentally lazy brainwashed into voting remain. Then they'll be "outraged" on Facebook when remain wins because "smart" people wanted us to remain.

And that big bad evil Donald Trump, yes, the BBC is completely right wing.

>>83277594
And when it came to Brexit and Donald Trump? Yeah, how did their coverage fair there?
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>>83277646
>Yeah, how did their coverage fair there?
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>>83277222
>Americans would never allow something like that to happen

Fucking kek they are actually way ahead of europe on that front
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>>83277698
Pretty fair mate.
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>>83277727
>Fucking kek they are actually way ahead of europe on that front
Don't kid yourself, they've had a significant black population for a long time, that's just the status quo for them. Muslims on the other hand are a lot more cheeky, actively try to change laws and living conditions to abide by their religion. As soon as that shit starts going down the KKK 2.0 will rev up into hyper drive.

>>83277743
So you have no argument? Thought so.
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>>83277328
Of course it matters, you mongrel. They pander it as programming for kids. Really, it's a Cultural Marxist indoctrination method. It's all pro fags, pro minorities, pro feminist, pro all the wrong shit. It's a disgrace. Fuck those Cultural Marxist.
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>>83277587
>And that big bad evil Donald Trump, yes, the BBC is completely right wing.
>>83277622

Lets look at the big hitters in the BBC news coverage:

Laura Kussberg - a Tory who got pulled up on her coverage of Jeremy Corbyn by the BBC for being impartial.
Nick Robinson - chair of the Conservative society at university.
Andrew Neil - former researcher for, oh look at that, the Conservative party

The argument that the BBC is left wing because it's socially liberal and has black people on TV doesn't really tread water with me. They're hyper critical of left-wing policies and politicians and tend to give right-wing politicians a pass.
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>>83274353
>Im so sorry that in the "developed, 1st world country that is Britain" has private companies that pay goons to come to your house and demand they take a look inside, and are also liable to take you to court if you don't comply.

That's wrong.
They have no right to enter and can't issue court summons themselves.

They can apply for a warrant to enter the property, but this is extremely rare and basically would only happen if they peeked through your window and saw you watching telly.

I've had about 40 letters from TV licensing telling me they have "opened an investigation", not once have I had the goons knock on my door.
And if the goons ever knock on my door I'll happily waste their time and refuse them entry.

I don't even have a telly I just enjoy the goons wasting their time and resources on me.

TV licensing is a fucking joke though I'm not defending it.
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>>83277110
Islam is the religion of evil and terrorism.

That is my opinion, and I won't be prosecuted for stating it.
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>>83275502
>>83274896
The TV licensing laws were changed last year to include on-demand services like iPlayer, so now it doesn't matter if you're watching it live nor not.
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>itt americans trying to banter

Go to bed you cultureless mongrels.
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>>83277761
>The argument that the BBC is left wing because it's socially liberal and has black people on TV doesn't really tread water with me. They're hyper critical of left-wing policies and politicians and tend to give right-wing politicians a pass.
Brexit and Donald Trump.

>>83277782
Try your luck on Twitter, not on an anonymous message board.
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>>83277752
Oh I'm sorry, I must have missed your argument.
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>>83273054
>letting the inspector in at all
I'm American and even I know not to do this.
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Never understood why people get stressed out or have so many problems dealing with the Brit TV licence people
Went on their website and just said no I don't need one, never had a letter or door-knock since
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>>83277814
go back to your Tikka Masala anon
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>>83274084
>Was britain always a creepy police state, or is this a thing of recent decades

WW1 was the turning point, according to journalist Peter Hitchens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qymU1sRgB2w
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>>83277761
You've got to remember anon. The people you are talking to are from /pol/. 'If it aint white it aint right'
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>>83277802
So far at least the only on-demand service you need a licence for is Iplayer, which makes some sort of sense as the BBC is supposedly funded directly from licence fees.
Every other on demand service on the internet you don't need one for
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>>83277820
Spoken like a true libcuck.
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>>83277328
You mean the Oprah documentaries, right?

http://www.oprah.com/entertainment/oprah-narrates-new-discovery-series-life
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>>83277818
The problem is that since the BBC is such a huge organization with many different departments producing content its hard to keep track of political and ideological biases seeping in through its content. The BBC is a middle class pro status quo organization at its heart.
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>>83277761
BBC news/politics fellates the tory gov't 99% of the time
BBC tv is liberal SJW bullshit 99% of the time
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>>83277874
>Oooh a libcuck, wooooo
Nice response cancer.

Just so you know, I'll be voting for Labour
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>>83277894
Sure it is.

>>83277946
I'm the only one providing arguments here.
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>>83271879

ukfag

I had to buy a 32" led monitor because I don't watch tv and to cover my back if the inspector plays dirty, also If you try and buy a tv they want your address
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In Denmark about 90-95% pay a TV license to a company called DR - Denmarks Radio. These guys have some 4-6 channels ranging from normal channels to old people to only shitty ass kids channels. They ask for some 250 pounds a year for you being able to view their channels, and even say that if you have any sort of tech that can go online and watch all their stuff on their website (cus they put it up for free LUL) you have to pay the license, but like our britbong friendo in this thread you can just deny them at the door, they have no legal jurisdiction to enter your home, and as far as I know they actually cant get it. Can't believe all these old fucks still pay the license, I still have to pay my provider for the normal channels it's so retarded.
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>>83277964
You say that, but where exactly?

All I've seen is you go 'muh Trump' and 'muh Breakfast', neither of which were treated ridiculously unfairly, and probably not at all.

It's almost as if you define fair journalism as, 'biased to my own position'.
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>>83277579
I imagine the old cathode ray tubes in the front room gave off a lot of electromagnetic radiation, but the flat screens of today would be a bitch to detect.
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>>83278090
>All I've seen is you go 'muh Trump' and 'muh Breakfast', neither of which were treated ridiculously unfairly, and probably not at all.
That's it, no more (you)s for you.
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>>83278107
See, there you go again with your quality 'crunchy nut' arguments.
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>>83277978
I live in Germany and it's pretty much the law that the government has your adress.
And every household pays the tv fee here, you dont even have to own a tv.
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>>83275370
who actually watches TV anymore?

North Americanside don't
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>>83278174
Well, shit. Talk about getting it in the ass, and not even with a smile before or after. Just a big ole' dick in your ass. Not even with ample lube, without any lube at all.
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>>83278174
Well the TV licence people aren't the government mind.
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>>83277905

the two aren't equivocal.

>>83277818
What about them? Can you show evidence of how the coverage was bias? Perhaps it seemed bias because right-wing commentators were being asked to provide evidence for things.
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>>83273895
>>One guy literally turns the TV off when I walk into the room
lmao
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>>83274696
>You can say no, but then if they suspect you are 'stealing tv' and refusing to let them in, they'll get the police with a warrant to enter your property and check to see if your tv is plugged into an antenna.

But what happened to me, the guy checked instead if my tv could have an antenna plugged in at all, and since it could he issued me a fine which i later beat in court.

I just never answer the door to them full stop now to avoid their scheming.

There's fucking no way this actually happens? Is the UK literally that fucked that the police can issue a warrant for your property to check for a tv cable? Please tell me this is LARPING.
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>>83277964
The BBC has always been a borgie middle class institution
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>>83275370
>The trade off is the UK has high quality television programming and news that actually delivers the news.
T O P L E L
O
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L
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>>83273054
Why did you even let him in? Did he have a warrent?
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>>83278404
Yeah they can. Especially if you're rude to them.

Its because its a really flawed outdated system really, there's no way to properly enforce it. You shouldn't really be a dick to the people who come knocking if they didn't start it, they're just guys doing a job, same with job centre people.
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>>83278445
Is it funny because its true?
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>>83275365
They need to go to a magistrate and present probable cause to get a warrent.

Not giving access to your home does not count as probable cause.
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>>83275370
>entire generations brainwashed by the likes of Hannity

Hannity and pundits like him, make their money telling old people what they already think. Brainwashing is always directed at the youth.
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>>83276478
But amazon are presumibly paying the BBC for the licence to air their programming.
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>tfw tv license revoked for watching tv while drunk
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But we also get a lot of TV free. You, like a technologically illiterate housewife of a certain age, decided to sign up fir aditional services you don't need. That's on you. A freesat+ box for casual watching and a Kodi box for specific shows and you would have been set, but no, you insisted in being a retard.
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>Living in a share house during uni
>Bang on the door
>Its the tv inspector moustache and everything
>Distract him
>Housemate quickly eats the tele
> Inspector can't fine you if you eat the tele
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>>83279121
Pic related
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>>83278613
its funny because you're a brainwashed faggot who honestly believes he's enlightened or some shit
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>>83277692
Please die already you octogenarian. You boomers are the worst generation.
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>2017 STILL WATCHING THE TELL LIES AVISION
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>>83279204
Whatever you say /pol/.
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>>83273585
What did he mean by this?
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>>83274153
This post is a work of fiction
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>>83277071
>Trump is busy fighting the deep state at the moment,
This delusion. Trump surrendered to the deep state as soon as he won. That's why he appointed all of those oligarchs to his cabinet, like Mnuchin, Ross and Devos
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>>83279347

the tv license is an organised racket and should have went away when set-top boxes came out

the literally send you threats if you don't own a tv and harass you

when I moved out 10 years ago my parents were so brainwashed by the threats they tried lecturing me saying I needed one for owning a computer
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>>83271879
I haven't paid for TV licensing for 5 years.

They keep saying they'll end me to court but until they get in my house and see they evidence (which they can't do without my permission), I'm good.
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>>83276956
Based on BBC-America, the BBC consists of 50% Star Trek Next Generation reruns anyway. Cancel the whole production.
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>>83279489
What was you're response anon?.
my two dads are the same.
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>>83279518
Why don't you pay? It's only like $5 a year, right?
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>>83279489
Anon. I've been posting the licence is an outdated system the whole thread.
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>>83279563

which one was pregnant with you?
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>>83279535
You shouldn't base it on BBC-America then. Because I've never seen any STNG.
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>tfw no matter what happens, no matter how bad things get, you will never EVER be a pathetic, disgusting, smarmy little britcuck

Britcucks WILL get mad at this post.
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I'll take the TV licence over shit Internet. Unlimited 200Mbps is pretty great.
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>>83279747
No need to get mad. Because I'll never be corn stuffed barely literate yank.
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>>83271879
>The only party wanting to remove the TV licence are UKIP.
>They have 3% in the polls in the upcoming GE.
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>>83280029
But what if that were the only issue?
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>>83279720
I was purchased on the blak market.
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>>83276674
>making over 32K
45k. You get an 11.5k untaxed personal allowance.
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Where can I find a nice lardass American girl who will provide me with a sham marriage so I can escape the evil British empire to the promised land of bullets, blacks and burgers? Are there dating websites that operate internationally?
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>>83279798
Oh yea, he mad.

>1400
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>>83273460
you do know what happens when all the good servers hosted in the usa get fucked by no net neutrality, right ?

say good bye to your britbong internet too dumbass.
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>>83276784
go to youtube and search for tv inspectors

its fuckin real mate.
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>>83279489
It would have been much more efficient to get rid of the "detector vans", and the salesmen, and just take the BBC money straight from government funding. People would not feel the pinch if their taxes went up 0.003%.
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>>83279577
£147
$188.29
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>>83271879
1. why would you pay for amazon's live streaming tv service?
2. why would you actually pay for a tv license just because it's technically required?
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>>83273054
you know you don't have to let them in right
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>>83274084
conservatives like to take advantage of nationalists by shoehorning in a bunch of control freak policies and sugarcoating it with vague anti-immigration stances that never change anything
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>>83271879
Fuck that. Someone would get shot over that around here.
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>>83271879

>Don't pay for a license fee
>Watch everything and anything I want on Exodus
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>>83280926
What? Control-freak policies were implemented during the world wars, with Atlee (Labour Party) nationalizing everything in sight.
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>>83273777
no you have to let all salesmen into your private property if they ask.
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