What do you attribute to the Star Wars prequel's recent appreciation?
Memes
I've honestly always enjoyed the first one
>>83202433
revisionist history by people who dont remember what a massive disappointment they were for """real""" fans
>>83202433
disney
>>83202486
Never really had a problem with the prequels
>>83202433
>Confusing "appreciation for the films" with "appreciation for the joy of mocking the easily-mockable which /tv/ has known of for years, yet the public-at-large has only begun to appreciate"
>>83202433
i enjoyed them all. really caters to my inner star wars fanboy. i don't think there's anything star wars related that i really dislike.
>>83202433
Anyone have the picture of the reading requirements for understanding the prequels, OT, and new Disney films?
>>83202465
To answer your question, what this anon said
>>83202433
Disney buying Star Wars and trying to get people to buy more merchandise by paying for people to praise them in blogs.
Fags under 20 who's first Star Wars were the shitquels and growing up with the cartoons. Who have the heaviest nostolgia goggles in history.
>>83202763
You, I like you
>>83202831
your a dorable
Misplaced nostalgia, just like everything from the late 90s to early-mid 00s, which were terrible years to anybody who actually remembers them properly.
A combination of the growing prevalence of vulgar auterism and a generation of film fans who grew up on them. I don't agree with the reevaluation entirely and think they're very flawed films, but there's definitely a lot more than meets the eye with them.
People who didn't grow up with the originals, so they're less hostile
>>83202433
One factor is that the prequels are bad in an entertaining, cheesy way - whereas the Disney movies are bad in a boring, corporate way.
>>83202433
trump supporters hate for the new ones fueled people to criticise the prequels. as with anything once you criticise something you drive eyes to it.normies see the prequels and dont care about the lore and like it as a fun movie
>>83202433
TFA was shit
>>83202433
Because of internet group think. When these films came out, people had their own opinions. Now they go to the internet to see what other people say for validation of their own opinion. People don't want to say what they feel about something until it becomes a popular opinion. It's all mind control.
>>83202433
Nostalgia.
I love watching a movie like Mortal Kombat, which I thought was the tits the first time I saw it. Of course its a bad movie, but enjoyable nonetheless
A similar thing is happening with the prequels. They're bad movies but somewhat enjoyable at times. Like Mortal Kombat, it has bad acting, a ridiculous story, but stays true to the tone of the franchise.
tl;dr Movies can be bad but entertaining and most people cant tell the difference.
>>83202433
It at least had a sort of original storyline. It still sucked balls. It was fucking terrible in a dazzling spectrum of ways. The new series is completely sold out disney tripe.
>>83202465
this. it was the memes
They are marvellous movies finally beginning to escape the cloud of expectations from the originals and vague pouting of manchildren.
>>83203440
Very simply but well put
>>83204726
Same manchildren who reeeeee about Force Awakens. It will eventually be accepted.
>>83204726
>>83204849
I definitely think FA is the weakest of the main trilogies so far, but it's still a decent film, with some exceptional parts.
A. TFA was a steaming pile of shit and people realized how much worse things truly could be.
B. Enough time has passed that the asshurt manbaby meme that the prequels are terrible and irredeemable has faded because people who grew up with these and genuinely enjoyed them are adults now.
Personally I grew up with both trilogies. I saw the 97 special editions in the theater and saw all three prequels too. Every time I rewatch the series I like the originals less and the prequels more.
>>83202433
quite simply - how bad the new films are and will be.
they have some original ideas or at least attempts at them. They expanded the universe. The new films are the reverse of that in every way possible.
>>83202433
The were always pretty good. Normies shit on them because it's trendy and hip. And autists shit on them for minor bullshit mainly to do with shit they didn't like about Episode 1 and then seek to hold Episodes II and III to account for those issues.
Revenge of the Sith is probably a better movie than Return of the Jedi.
>>83204914
>exceptional parts
name them
>>83205028
Exceptional
- Appearance of Ren and duel with Finn and Rey (Rey pulling the saber)
- Rey and Luke
- Ren and Snoke, Ren and Vader's mask
Great
- Han's dealings with Kanjiklub and co. + succeeding escape
- Opening firefight
- Appearance of Resistance fighters
- Most dogfights (notable exclusion Finn and Rey escaping on the falcon)
>>83204928
>rewatching Star Wars regularly
peak autism levels
AotC would have been good if it was just about Obi Wan. Anakin was just awful in it. I would have also prefered to see some of Anakin's training. There's just so much material so I don't think a trilogy is enough
>>83205121
HOLY SHIT THEY DID THE STAR WARS THING WHERE THEY PULL THE LIGHTSABER WITH THE FORCE
*snores*
>>83202433
Their relative originality,
>>83205121
Garbage taste
>>83205146
if you can't understand the significance of it or are just memeing, in both cases I don't care for your reply.
>>83205177
TELL THAT TO KANJIKLUBNo seriously, fuck off with your shit taste.
>>83205177
IT MEANS SHE TOTALLY LEARNT TO USE THE FORCE! ALL HER PRACTICE AND HARD WORK FINALLY PAID OFF!
*snores*
>>83205141
Yeah its a shame the most of the clone wars was covered in a shitty cartoon. Anakin's padawan was annoying too although Anakin himself was good this time around
>>83205212
Luke could use the force to manipulate a missile into the Death Star vent after training for like a few days
>>83205326
Anakin was pretty much space Jesus in Phantom Menace
Really star wars isn't such a great series at all. The early films were technical watersheds and amusing adventure stories but for fucks sake it's time to move on to other things eventually.
>>83202433
>nostalgia
>movies aren't totally bad albeit very flawed
>great campiness
>memes
We got over the whole "old vs new trilogy" thing and just accept them for what they are, good and bad.
>>83202433
Why do contrarian dorks on this board defend these movies THEY ARE SO FUCKINGG BORING AND UGLY
There's plenty of good to be said about each of the prequels. I think most people could name 3, 4, maybe even or more things that they liked with each film.
Just from Episode 1, that opening when we Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan fight the battle droids:
https://youtu.be/pUbXyd-fK8Q
More battle droids:
https://youtu.be/LaK6ZlicwZE
And of course the duel with Darth Maul:
https://youtu.be/9Uvad9uSc9k
>>83203440
>>83203458
>>83203462
>>83204928
>>83204961
The prequel shilling started before TFA came out.
I think it's Disney trying to revise history to make their property they just bought more valuable.
Also, kids that grew up on them.
>>83202433
Episode VII, old memes dying off.
>>83205326
That's a basic ability every force sensitive has from the start
>>83205326
The setup isn't even comparable.
We see him struggling earlier at the specific trick where he is blind and trusts his instincts. He has doubts about pulling down the helmet at first, but in the end he trusts his instincts and we get the payoff, combined with Han Solos redemption making it the greatest moment in cinema history.
When Rey pulls the lightsaber, there is no setup. The only thing it does is change the tides of the battle to the good guys advantage which is so cliched and expected, if you think that's exceptional, especially when done without any setup, you're a fanboy.
Also, Luke had a shot at doing it without the force and with the targeting computer, it's established earlier. He didn't bend the shot, it's just correct timing, because you can see him relax as he shoots while the missiles are flying.
>>83205795
Episode II
https://youtu.be/X9-K1cxj6IQ
https://youtu.be/8ODI04FWyQI
https://youtu.be/2UhQ9uuM-YQ
>>83205795
Is there an in canon/legends reason why the droids were incompetent? Doesn't seem like a thing Dooku/Grievous would do.
>>83205992
Literally kino
>>83205992
Episode III
https://youtu.be/5c7jNYpPFzE
https://youtu.be/vYcUq4g6rGs
https://youtu.be/0KYxYOo2RnA
>>83202433
Always loved them although I didn't like 2 very much but TFA just made me realise how good they were and that we will never see any sort of good originality from Star Wars again
>>83205992
I never liked the bounty hunter chase scenes, they are so disconnected from the main plot that they act as brainless action filler.
They are the reason the pacing is so messed up
>>83205326
>using the force to heighten senses and reactions is now uncanon for nuwars fags
>>83202433
>What do you attribute to the Star Wars prequel's recent appreciation?
The fact that it's not canon anymore thanks to Disney.
>>83206135
3 was fucking fantastic, anakin in it is literally 4chan
A B S O L U T E K I N O
>>83206390
Dude, Episodes 1-7, The Clone Wars cartoon and movie, and everything after Disney buying LucasArts is canon
>>83206274
I love it. It puts thr jedi in a fun space detective story going from a car chase to a night club, then bouncing around from planet to planet after Jango.
>>83206274
>brainless action filler
That's how I feel about the first 10 minutes of Episode III.
>>83205875
If that's true it has sorely backfired.
What do you guys think about The Clone Wars (cgi series)? Does it make the prequels better retroactively, even slightly?
>>83206755
>>83206755
It adds considerbly and it helps that Clone Wars was the best Star Wars tv series.
>>83202514
>being a real star wars fan
>>83206869
>that 14956.... filename
Kill yourself
>>83206055
The Clone Wars were manufactured by Sheev.
>>83206829
>It adds considerbly
Agreed, shame it was cancelled. Some stuff they had planned for future seasons sounded good
>>83206932
Palpy had that shit down. The leader of both sides, an army fighting the Jedi and the Jedi's own army ready to kill them
Enjoy some kino on the house
I:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBV9pXleF0
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbXyd-fK8Q
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjj4MBDpbOY + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lVCO4gW940
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdJnoL4KR8g
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqdESArkqU&t=186s
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9wyAXH9n3w
II:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9-K1cxj6IQ
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ME5jhsgmB4
[KINO ALERT]- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVczx7GIWXc
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lbzFnbmBoE
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dylqDO4uEXc
TBC...
>>83202433
The fact that our generation grew up with them. TPM came out 18 years ago before you start. If you're under 35, that's the trilogy you grew up with.
>>83202433
Teenagers that grew up watching them are now old enough to shitpost.
>>83207082
>>83207106
like pottery
>>83205795
>>83205992
>>83206135
Say what you will about the prequels, but there were good ideas and concepts behind them. Shame how it turned out.
>>83202433
contrarianism and the late millennial/early gen z influx
>>83206135
III is so good that here's more clips
https://youtu.be/eYT3ctPuVRw
https://youtu.be/q0r4jNhG9Z4
https://youtu.be/iu3qoIsGzUM
>>83207082
naw, fuck you guy, i saw the ot on vhs, then in theaters before i ever saw episode one.
>>83207052
III:
Best opening crawl and opening scene coming through
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmbS_Mn2a8
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYT3ctPuVRw
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05dT34hGRdg&
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25GKkfXJUVU
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0r4jNhG9Z4
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c7jNYpPFzE
[Personal Favourite] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYcUq4g6rGs
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3frK9-OiQ0&t=387s bit missing at the start
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KYxYOo2RnA&t=96s
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8J2l0XQG0g&t=45s
>>83205326
You mean... he used the Force to aim?
>>83207142
>>83207233
Imagine if I and II were as the same quality as III
>>83207129
Funny, my shit this morning was a good idea and there was some great food eaten to make that shit. Shame how it gave me an anal fissure.
>>83207167
That just means you're even younger than the OT generation. You're the PT nostalgia generation that came after. Here's a quick breakdown by date of birth
-84 - OT generation
85-95 - PT generation
96-01 - NeoOT generation
02-10 - nuT generation
11-17 - NeoOT+PT generation
>>83207422
>younger than the PT generation. You're the OT nostalgia generation
Fixed, it's all very confusing
>>83207363
I and II aren't bad. I like them better than A New Hope. ANH aged a bit and is weaker than V and VI. People just give it a pass because it was where Star Wars began. It also has the worst lightsaber fight and the romance between Luke and Leia is made strange and bizarre because of ROTJ revealing that she's his sister.
>>83202433
A combination of three major factors.
When they came out, people had grown up with the original trilogy, and the reaction essentially boiled down to 'muh star wars.' Now there are a lot of people who essentially saw all six movies at once, and have a more even-handed reaction.
Backlash has developed from the memetic hatred of the prequels, which was highly memetic. There's a lot wrong with the prequels, but most people don't really know what exactly that is, and most of the dislike just comes from them being movies that people are 'supposed' to dislike, it's a part of mainstream culture, and people buy into it. Eventually counterculture forms, and people reevaluate the prequels with a bias in the opposite direction.
As time goes on, and we have more time to let things sit with us, people tend to value ambition and originality more, and care about flaws in delivery less. It's a sort of rose-tinted glasses thing, though not triggered by nostalgia. We learn to look past the flaws of presentation as we grow accustomed to them, and ruminate more on the interesting elements. The prequels are a great example of this.
>>83206755
>Does it make the prequels better retroactively, even slightly?
Kind of not really? The show is really great, but it actually kind of hurts the prequels, just by comparison. The action sequences, writing, acting with characters like Anakin, it all comes off as much worse when going in from TCW. It makes the Order 66 scene and the stuff on Mustafar a lot more powerful though.
>>83202433
shit taste, autism
>>83202465
/thread
>>83206886
explain