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this is possibly the worst mc in the history of television, fuck

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this is possibly the worst mc in the history of television, fuck this fucking whiny faggot
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he's a kid you nigger, of course he's going to whine about it
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that kid from enders game should play him in the inevitable anime live action adaptation
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>>83152609
hits too close to home op?
at least he has a reason to whine, you're just a NEET
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>>83152609
How'd a pussy like Shinji get a girl like Asuka?
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>>83152669
it's not a fucking documentary, it's a fictional story, I'd think writing an interesting mc would be a priority
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>>83152609
Very frustrating to watch. You just want him to do what he has to do and kick ass, but he refuses, and episodes stretch on and on without any sweet robot action. It's really a drag. Fuck Shinji.
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>>83152784
so he should be generic badass kid pilot MC instead? having him act like an actual person instead of a cliche caricature is far more interesting, at least it's different
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Is rebuild part 4 out yet? It's been so long.
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>>83152609
He's a 14 y/o with daddy and mommy issues as well as depression who is forced by his cunt of a father to pilot a giant robot against aliens. I'd be whiny to.
Also he's a teenager so he's got as these hormones but the only girls his age he interacts with are some crazy bitch with even more psych problems than him and some autistic blue haired chick who wants his daddies cummies.
Shinji had a hard life so don't make fun of him.
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>>83152777
Saved her from drowning in a volcano

Fucking chad. Reeeee
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>>83152609
Anime is fucking gay.
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>>83152609
>watch japanese anime
>male mc is a beta
Everytime
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>>83152760
>gets to pilot giant robots to save humanity and hang out with sexy older women and girls his own age all day
>spends all his time having panic attacks and throwing temper tantrums

I get it, not everyone is cut out to do everything, but jesus christ. People suffer through shit millions of times worse than this guy had to deal with on a daily basis and are just fine. The only valid concern he even had (that his actions determine the fate of all of fukken humanity) he didn't even seem to care about, prefering to instead do his best to ruin every task he was given. This guy is like a linkin park song frankensteined up into a human body.
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>>83152834
>LE deconstruction of mecha genre
>see guys mechas are actually impractical and having kids do this shit would be too much pressure lmao
Wow real profound Anno I never would have realized that on my own. You know what my giant robot cartoons need? A whiny bitch and pretentious christian allusion that the creator himself admitted was just about being cool.
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>>83153001
>be a literal child
>have no formal military training
>suddenly get forced to fight giant aliens that can easily fuck your shit up
>get pressured to save and protect everyone even though collateral damage is inevitable, end up being responsible if people are dying
>all of the people who work with you are also either mentally or emotionally unstable
>wtf why is he panicking?
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>>83152999
>watch Japanese anime
>guy watching it is a beta
Everytime
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>>83153183
Also he feels any damage the Eva feels. He's been decapitated and maimed a few times.
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>>83153348
the weebest meme ive ever seen
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>>83153183
yeah, you panic the first time. he panics every single time without fail and learns absolutely nothing from any of his experiences. then he slowly degrades into further and further madness instead of adapting to his situation. sure, he acts like "an actual person", but it's an actual person that's a repugnant shit. his only valuable trait is that the mech can't be operated by anyone but him. there are worse protagonists out there but finding them takes some effort.

I'm honestly convinced they were trying to piss of their audience as much as possible with this entire series. it's a shame the budget of the new movies is wasted on such an awful cast of characters. only redeeming feature is the mech fights and military porn.
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>>83153001
no, you are just retarded
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>>83153267
tony is a good example of a good main character btw, shinji should've been more like tony
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>>83152808
you're either too young or too normie to ever understand.

either that or you're a completely well-adjusted person. if thats the case, you need to leave this website.

stick to dbz next time
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>when people say "MC" instead of protagonist
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>>83153402
no u
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>>83152609
compare him the kid from tokyo ghoul where 90% of his dialogue consists of him literally crying and screaming. unbearable, jesus christ
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>>83153461
mc and protagonist aren't one and the same
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>>83153423
>too normie to ever understand.
>a completely well-adjusted person
yes
>you need to leave this website
no
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>>83153461
>how dare you try to streamline your posts!!
>only proper reddiquette on this site!!!
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>>83153386
because he's fighting giant aliens that are killing people and blowing shit up

it's not like this is his first office job or something, he's forced into an extremely stressful military position where he's held accountable if people die

what you said may make sense if shinji was a violent kid, or a psychopath, or fought angels for years, but i don't think you could ever get "used" to a job like shinji's, especially if you're just an immature schoolkid
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>>83152808
>sweet robot action

that's the only thing going for Eva to draw in the pleb audience
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>>83152609
>anime
hey kid, why don't you fuck off to >>>/a/
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>>83153797
>eva is still good without the robots
why don't you go watch one of your girl animes
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>>83153872
The evas are fine but it's a good thing that they weren't the main focus of the show
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>>83152609
it's written for whiny faggots
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>>83152609
Not as bad as Honda kia.
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>>83153001
>People suffer through shit millions of times worse than this guy had to deal with on a daily basis
So when was the last time you had to kill an angel with literally the entire future of mankind riding on your shoulders
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>>83152609
You're not supposed to like or empathize with shinji. He's the complete opposite of every teenage main character from mecha anime at the time. Half of evangelion is just deconstruction of anime tropes.
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>>83154556
It was written to trigger whiny faggots.
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I liked him, but I think Shinji started the trend of the beta and clueless MC, which is already tiring.
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>itt insecure betas that project themselves onto show characters get upset when the character is to much like the real them
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The only character I sympathized with was Asuka.
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>>83152784
any chance you enjoy capeshit?
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>>83153619
Howdy reddit
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>>83152609
drop the show it just gets worse
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>>83155618
i'm just a few episodes in and shinji already walked in on a naked rei and dropped on top of her touching her breasts, don't fucking tell me about deconstruction of tropes
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>>83155969
Rei's reaction is the deconstruction
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>>83156017
you're just reading too much into it
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>>83156017
LMAO
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>>83156139
You're retarded anon, I don't thing evengelion is the show for you. Maybe pokemon or beyblade would be more your speed?
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>>83156139
it actually is though, normally in most anime both the guy and the girl would overreact and go "baka!" and it would devolve into some wacky hijinks, when shinji does it though it's just kinda awkward and embarrassing, like in real life
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>>83156139
>>83156183
>a shonen anime is literally to complex for these guys
It's all surface level, instead of some comedic reaction and Shinji getting slapped like literally every other anime that situation pops up in its just awkward
It's not that deep guys
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>>83156236
>>83156249
>>83156307
so this is what autism is like
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>>83152609
You watched one chinese carton and now you think you're a fucking expert. What the fuck is it with Eva fans that makes them this way?
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>>83153348
>japanese lyrics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJuexdl_c5s
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>>83155873
The final episode is the best fuk u nigger
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>>83156413
If you think a basic understanding of what a show is actually about is autisim, what the fuck are you doing on /tv/? Like seriously, its not our fault you're dumb as hell.
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>>83156688
Double dubs tell only the truth.
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>>83156413
>gets btfo
>b-but a-autism
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>>83156776
>>83156859
go write up your gay fan theories on reddit
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>>83156612
thanks but I'm still going with the weeb version
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>>83156939
Weak ass bait nigger. Troll harder.
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>>83156939
>b-but reddit
>s-stop being mean to me
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>>83157077
>>83157082
>haha, show's awkward and cringy on purpose, take that
autism
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>>83152609
Can we kill this meme? Sure, he whines a lot during the series. But when it comes down to it, he got in the fucking robot every time, since episode 1. He also rekt every angel (granted, mommy helped a lot), turned into a fucking god and made everyone into living eternal gatorade.

By the way, if you can only judge the series by its kewl fights xD (which it has), and would feel more comfortable with a cliché, predictable protagonist, go be a pleb and watch the newest Marvel. Fuck you.
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>>83157175
We get it anon, you want us to know you're retarded. We understand.
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>>83156688
The final two episodes were so bad they had to make a movie out of it lmao you're wrong
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>>83157455
The final two episodes were released as is to piss off animu nerds. Ano was literally giving the finger to the fanbase.
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>>83152999
I can't relate to these fags, either they're shitty self inserts or beta faggots.
Is there ANY anime with a strong, alpha MC?
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>>83157620
Tonnes, dbz, hellsing ultimate, berserk just to name a few. Have you actually watched any anime?
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>>83157620
Spike and Jet from cowboy bebop ooze alpha
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>>83157620
yeah i agree dude, when i was 14 i was a fr*ckin badass who killed terrorists left and right with my katana and fucked hundreds of girls, where's the anime for me?
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>>83153386
did you watch the show

shinji is actually the most talented pilot with the highest sync rate. he only gets fucked by the completely insane abilities the angels have like the one that dumped him into a pocket dimension. piloting skill wont help you there.
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>>83157704
No, i tried watching one back then and i hated the MC.
And DBZ?
From what i remember Goku didn't have much of a personality anyway, he was pretty selfish too.

>>83157735
Comboy bebop uh?
I've hard a lot about it, is it really any good?

>>83157774
Jesus Christ mate, stop projecting.
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Maybe. He is that by design.

I fucking hate EVA anyways. One of the most overrated series i know of.
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>>83157903
>Comboy bebop uh?
>I've hard a lot about it, is it really any good?
It really is. It's a very short(under thirty episodes) space western about a couple of bounty hunters.
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>>83153406
Shinji is very much like Tony
>hates self
>not honest with people
>oedipus complex
>parental neglect
he's just less prone to violent outbursts and probably less depressed
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>>83157903
Goku is japanese superman, he's alpha as hell. The whole show is alpha dudes beating each other to a pulp. Really though japan has a different idea than we do of what makes an alpha male. Most characters that we would consider alpha are from shows heavily influenced by western culture.
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>>83158086
Don't forget the movie, which is also pretty awesome.
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>>83152609
If you hate Shinji you didn't understand a single thing about Evangelion or what Anno was trying to say.
I'm guessing you haven't even finished watching it.
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>>83158096
yeah and tony actually interacts with other people and has interesting conversations, shinji never says anything even remotely of value, it's all boring cliche anime lines
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>>83158460
I mean, yeah, these are two different shows we're talking about, I'm just saying they do fit into a vaguely similar archetype
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>>83152609
I hated Shinji when I watched Eva as a teen but I like him in his own way now
In fact the more I watch Eva the more I like it
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Nigga Shinji is a beta faggot mc done right as it actually explores his insecurities and why he's unable to form connections instead of being a retarded escapist self-insert harem mc.
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>>83157175
>le autism
How about you go back to you site normie
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>>83152609
not every main character has to be fucking snake plisskin. its ok that Shinji was a beta male that just makes him readily identifiable with the countless majority of anime fans
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>>83152609
stick to watching capeshit
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>>83157526
>Ano was literally giving the finger to the fanbase

my favorite anno meme
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>>83158420
I don't think thats quite true. I get what its all about, but I still don't really like shinji. I can empathize with him, understand why he is the way he is, and still not like him as a person.
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>Bruh, a middle school/high school Japanese kid needs to ride a robot who is at least 60 meters tall, and needs to fight monsters that almost kill the entire humanity, why would he feel scared about it?

>Bruh, he´s a guy that´s suffering the effecfts of puberty, like emotional changes, so, by logic, he needs to be very mature and act like an adult

Really? Is that what you think? I suppose you are not used to see verisimilitude in a show or movie...
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watching non-mecha scenes are like watching paint dry, I don't feel invested in a character with as much personally as a rock
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>>83157620
only the manliest metrosexuals allowed in jojo
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I just keep letting me down letting me down letting me down
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>>83160870
HEY
JUDE
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>>83160323
>i can think of reasons why he would be a shit character
>therefore it's good that he's a shit character
you can say that about literally every character

also no
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>>83160893
KEK, you didn´t reply to any of my statements, you just pointed out different subjects

Why is he a bad character? He has his goals, his problems, and the explanation for those 2, also he has a good characterization, the thing with Shinji is that he is a 3rd dimensional character, he´s as complex as a real life person, it´s ok if you don´t relate to him, after all, he´s not a 2nd dimension character where you can realy relate to, in fact, Shinji may remind you of some real person you know, which can be better or worse for you
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Straight bitch made bruh

would bully
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>>83155745
DELET
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>>83160056
That's why i used the word 'hate', learn to read faggot.
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>>83152609

Shinji is a bigger badass than you,cuck. He whines sometimes, but most of the time he's doing his job kicking ass
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>>83161050
He's a bad character because you want him to die every time you see him on screen, and you weep for humanity because its survival hinges upon him doing what's necessary of him. I don't want my fiction to be filled with people who act like retarded children; if I wanted that I could step out the door and talk to one, or just hit up 4chan. I consume fiction to get away from that shit.

Again, since this is apparently really difficult to grasp, that someone behaves in ways that are "complex" (not that his behaviour is complex in the least to anyone who isn't autistic) or realistic doesn't mean they can't be a shit character. Most real people are shit characters. I don't want to watch stories about shit characters. I don't want to watch the anime where (You) during crucial moments cry like a baby and pathetically fail to do anything useful while humanity's survival relies upon you, then fail to comprehend what's going on the rest of the time because your IQ is below 80. Why would anybody want to watch a character like that?

I don't buy for two seconds that any of the characters in Evengelion act remotely "realistically", by the way, including Shinji. Watching it is like watching the worst, most banal and predictable bullshit animes you can think of, except instead of playing the tropes for your enjoyment they play the tropes to piss you off. And then you morons act like it's profound because she didn't freak out like a cartoon then punch him into orbit so that means it's different, ignoring the part where everything that happened in that entire scene, including the behaviour of both the characters during every step of the way, is still as far from "realistic" as you can get. Unless, of course, you assume that every character is literally retarded. But if you use that criteria then fucking every anime is "realistic" because it's realistic that such retarded characters would do such retarded things hurrrdurr

go fuck yourself
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>>83157620

>Is there ANY anime with a strong, alpha MC?

Fuck yeah there is
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Its all about perseverance right?
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>>83162073
>>83152609
Why do anime characters never look japanese?
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>>83162001
>1: you're autistic
>2: "he's not the usual hero, i don't wanna see sum fag cryin, and he doesn't act realistically enough (on a show with monsters and giant mecha robots) therefore he's a bad character". WRONG
>3: evangelion doesn't play the usual tropes, but just because it's not moe shit doesn't mean it's realistic (again with the realistic?). WRONG

dude, it's an anime. Be glad you have characters with some resemblance of a personality and not just moe placeholders and a smug "sonic the hedgehog" cool type character (i bet you'd love one of those you stupid fag)
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>>83162001
>He's a bad character because you want him to die every time you see him on screen
I didn´t wanted that

>and you weep for humanity because its survival hinges upon him doing what's
necessary of him. I don't want my fiction to be filled with people who act like retarded children; if I wanted that I could step out the door and talk to one, or just hit up 4chan. I consume fiction to get away from that shit.

Sorry, good audiovisual stories need realism in order to be great, you should go back to hentai or shitty harems if you don´t want to think

>Again, since this is apparently really difficult to grasp, that someone behaves in ways that are "complex" (not that his behaviour is complex in the least to anyone who isn't autistic) or realistic doesn't mean they can't be a shit character.
His not a "shit" character, he´s just a character with a realistic behaviour and personality, personality that you can´t relate a 100% too, which is ok, again, nobody is going to loke the same people, but, Shinji is what moves the show, he´s one of the main centers of the story, like it or not, you stayed with him all the time, knowing his personality, defects, and development with every episode.

>I don't want to watch the anime where (You) during crucial moments cry like a baby and pathetically fail to do anything useful while humanity's survival relies upon you, then fail to comprehend what's going on the rest of the time because your IQ is below 80. Why would anybody want to watch a character like that?

Like I established before, go back to hentai or shitty harems if you don´t want to think; if the responsability of the entire humanity depends on you, of course you are going to be scared and frustrated, and you may cry as well, he´s just a teen, and he was forced to do it, why is it bad for him to cry?

(Wait for the part 2 of the reply)
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>>83157526
>>83157455
The last two episodes were like that because they ran out of money
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>>83161455
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>>83162342
>why do stickmen look white to me
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>>83162450
They don't. They look like stick figures. you're delusional if you think anime characters look Asian.
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>>83161455
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>>83162478
the one you replied to literally had slanty eyes
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>>83162588
>giant bug eyes and massive pupils
Still doesn't look Asian.
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>>83152609
>>83162001
The point is that (You) wouldn't and couldn't have done a better job because you'd piss your pants if your dad told you to get in to the robot, just like most other people who criticize Shinji.
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>>83162001
>>83162374
(Part 2 of the reply)

>I don't buy for two seconds that any of the characters in Evengelion act remotely "realistically", by the way, including Shinji.

I guess to much unrealistic anime made you forgot what a plausible really is

>Watching it is like watching the worst, most banal and predictable bullshit animes you can think of, except instead of playing the tropes for your enjoyment they play the tropes to piss you off.

Being predictable is not bad if the show is good, I mean, in Breaking Bad you can suppose that Walter is going to die, but that doesn´t make it a bad show, because it´s consistent with the established logic in the show; being random, on the other hand, demonstrates the lack of consistency of a movie or show, and demonstrates that the author/s don´t really know what to do with it

>And then you morons act like it's profound because she didn't freak out like a cartoon then punch him into orbit so that means it's different, ignoring the part where everything that happened in that entire scene, including the behaviour of both the characters during every step of the way, is still as far from "realistic" as you can get.

"Evangelion" is very plausible, one example is the personality of the characters, a giant robot fighting monsters in not 100% realistic, but it´s plausible, since it´s established in the show and it has its pseudo logic, and besides, it´s taken as something serious, not like any shitty harems, where you can see demon or cat chicks and no one explains or question the reason behind it

>But if you use that criteria then fucking every anime is "realistic" because it's realistic that such retarded characters would do such retarded things hurrrdurr

then what would be the "logic" thing to do?
>Oh, I´m forced to fight monsters that almost destroy humanity while I ride a 70 meter robot... this is going to be fun!

KEK
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>>83162664
He has bug eyes because he's a cartoon character. >>83162549 has much smaller eyes but looks more white because he is supposed to look white.
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>>83162828
He still doesn't look asian
>b-b-ut he's a cartoon character!!!!!
How is this an argument? You can make cartoon characters look Asian. Korea does it all the time.
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>>83162828
this guy from the same anime is supposed to be asian, so i think it's just you being a fag
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>>83162001

How do you watch or read anything? There's typically some level of 'these characters are fucking retarded' in every work of fiction. How do you consume something where MC is a complete asshole? Really limiting your options if you can only consume things where you 'like' the MC.
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>>83162856
He has black hair, slanty eyes, an asian nose and a small mouth. He looks Asian

>>83162915
He has black hair, slanty eyes, an asian nose and a small mouth. He looks Asian
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>>83162949
>he looks asian
No he doesn't. If you think any of the asian anime characters posted ITT look asian, you're delusional.

>asian nose
What the fuck?
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>>83162992
>Asian nose
Have you never seen an Asian before? It looks like they're missing the top half of their nose. All the white characters have well defined nose bridges but asian noses kind of start to form out of the middle of their face
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>>83153547
explain
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>>83163096
>It looks like they're missing the top half of their nose.
Whites have that too.

>All the white characters have well defined nose bridges but asian noses kind of start to form out of the middle of their face
Pic related.

Keep trying, retard. None of the characters posted ITT look asian.
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>>83157620
Gurren
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>>83155719
did you not watch Nadia?
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>>83163287
they objectively do and I already explained why. I'm not wasting any more time with your bait
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>>83163485
>post an example of a white anime character who has the same "asian" features that you described
>bait

Delusional weeb.
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>>83153183
Child soldiers are pretty fearless and vicious.
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>>83153183
Yes, but why be a huge vagina about it?
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>>83164384
Every little thing. Every little bit of dialog.

Drenched in twatness.
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>>83153348
The fact that I can hear this shit in my head means I should probably just kill myself
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>>83152609

You're the faggot complaining about an anime character, you fucking faggot.
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>>83157218
Yeah you tell em brothaaaa
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>>83163849
Most of them aren't, and the few that are tend to be fucked up on drugs, are psychopaths, or have been fighting for so long that they can't feel anything anymore

And even if that was true it doesn't compare to the shit Shinji has to do. Being a child soldier is awful, obviously, but Shinji literally has the fate of the entire world on his shoulders and has to fight aliens that can blow up entire cities with ease.
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>>83152609

Hey, a faggot keeps messing with the lights and electricity and other electronics, how do you adapt to that situation?
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>>83152969
also literally being the last guy on earth
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>>83163157
serious. the antagonist can be the main chara...why do we even bother trying
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>>83152609

Much like Twin Peaks, Evangelion was a parody of its shitty contemporaries.
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>>83152609
>this is possibly the worst mc in the history of television,
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>>83167988
holy fuck people still support this game?
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>>83168144
yeah, sorta. not like theres really much else that is that simple to set up and create your own character in it for a quick swordfight

last blog post from the creator was "im not dead"...about 3 years ago
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>>83168006
pro·tag·o·nist
prōˈtaɡənəst,prəˈtaɡənəst/
noun
noun: protagonist; plural noun: protagonists

the leading character or one of the major characters in a drama, movie, novel, or other fictional text.
the main figure or one of the most prominent figures in a real situation.
"in this colonial struggle, the main protagonists were Great Britain and France"
synonyms: chief/central/principal/main/leading character, chief/central/principal/main/leading participant, chief/central/principal/main/leading figure, chief/central/principal/main/leading player, principal, hero/heroine, leading man/lady, title role, lead
"the protagonist in the plot"

The protagonist just means the character we focus on for the most part.

deu·ter·ag·o·nist
ˌd(y)o͞odəˈraɡənəst/
noun
noun: deuteragonist; plural noun: deuteragonists

the person second in importance to the protagonist in a drama.

That's the second most important character in a drama (story)

an antagonist is:


antagonist
[an-tag-uh-nist]

Synonyms
Examples
Word Origin

1.a person who is opposed to, struggles against, or competes with another; opponent; adversary.

the antagonist has nothing to do with "good or bad" it's literally just the opposition to the protagonist.

MC stands for Main Character. Which is the Protagonist, good or bad. Next time, before you call me stupid, maybe learn what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>83168594
>the leading character or one of the major characters in a drama, movie, novel, or other fictional text.
>or one of the major characters
>or

could start with learning to read
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>>83168594
Oh shit you were agreeing with me and I was too drunk to get it. My bad.
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>My soft flappy vagina the character

Never waste your time on this shit as fuck "show"
I wish someone had warned me
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>>83168679
What are you on about?

The major characters can be bad and still be the Protagonist. They are either the leading character (In a solo story about 1 protag) or one of the main characters (Such as a group of protags good or bad.)

Were you born stupid?
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>>83168711
so youve never watching a movie that followed the antagonist the entire film as the main oncreen thing with the protags only showing up occasionally and failing to beat them. so you havent watch much besides transformers and shit, okay. come back when your not a pleb. im out.
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>>83168780
Holy shit, are you this stupid?

The protagonist does NOT mean good guy. It just means the person (Or if we're getting into group dynamics) the protagonists we follow. The people that get the MAIN SCREEN TIME are protags. The antags are against whatever the protags are for. That's literally it. It's that simple.

It's not good guy/bad guy we're talking about here. If you don't understand at this point you're pointless. Or a troll.
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Wait, so people are getting angry about the fact that forcing someone who is emotionally unstable into a military situation against aliens that threaten all life on the planet makes him more emotionally unstable because it detracts from "the cool robot fights"?

What is going on?
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Maybe Rebuild is more fitted for your plebian taste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPozvc75PoE
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>>83168814
One more attempt; I'm way to drunk to write this out myself but this person put it succinctly.

"Protagonist, as your sources appear to have told you, doesn't mean the "good guy"; it means the "first actor", the character whose fate, whether success or defeat, is the central interest of the story. It's a structural role, not an ethical one.

The western dramatic tradition is full of villainous protagonists, from its earliest days (Clytemnestra in Aeschylus' Agamemnon) through the Elizabethans (the title roles in Marlowe's Tamburlaine and Shakespeare's Richard III and Macbeth) down to the moderns (Brecht's Arturo Ui).

The "bad guy" is frequently the protagonist of comedies, too: Subtle in Jonson's The Alchemist, Harpagon in Moliére's The Miser.

Antagonist, on the other hand, does not necessarily denote a dramatically central character. Some works provide a black-hearted villain who threatens the protagonist or whose goals the protagonist must thwart; in others, however, the force opposing the protagonist may be collective, and dramatically more or less colourless (Richmond in Richard III), may be impersonal (a god or Fate or, as Kenneth Burke has observed of O'Neill's Mourning Become Electra, really an aspect of the scene), may even be in some sense folded into the protagonist herself (Racine's Phédre).

Bottom line: You pretty much have to have a protagonist, both for dramatic interest and to attract a star actor. An antagonist is dispensable.

EDIT: So there's always a protagonist (who is occasionally plural, as in Godot), good or evil or neither. If he has opponents there's no need to label them antagonists—you may call them simply opponents or rivals or whatever they happen to be. If he doesn't, you don't have to look for someone or something to fix that label on."
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>>83163849
That's the cocainum.
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Shinji was an attack on spineless, weak willed, ineffectual otaku who spend all day fantasizing about going on adventures, piloting mechas, getting girls and saving the day. Thinking they could be cool awesome heroes if they were only given the chance. All in spite of the fact that they are too much of a failure to even sort out the most trivial problems in their own lives.

It was pretty much "Oh. You want to be a mecha pilot? You want to be a hero? Well, this is what it would look like if you ever were. You would fuck it up. You would cry and run away just like you cry and run away from the responsibilities in your own life. Fuck you."
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>>83168852
Normies and summer fags from reddit mate. These faggots want everything to be guardians of the galaxy tier
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>>83152609
He's actually my favorite MC in any movie or television because of how I can relate to him.

>>83152808
It annoys me how the same people who want their entertainment to be escapist fluff get annoyed when actually entertaining things like comedy get put in. You see this with capeshit and sci-fi all the time. I bet you complain about Evangelion being too realistic, then complain Guardians of the Galaxy isn't realistic enough.
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he's one of the few MCs who actually manage to end civilization and slaughter every living soul except his waifu, whom he immediately begins a campaign of domestic abuse against

you're just jealous of this absolute alpha male
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>>83169076
>Shinji was an attack on spineless, weak willed, ineffectual otaku who spend all day fantasizing about going on adventures, piloting mechas, getting girls and saving the day

Hell no, that's 200% false. Why would anyone lie on the internet?
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>>83169134
I like GoTG but I know when something should be dramatic like Eva
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>>83169194
underrated
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>>83157620
>he hasn't watched Hokuto no Ken yet
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>>83152777
he has a huge dick
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>>83169076

I think he was more of a critique of Japanese people in general, including Anno himself.
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>>83152609
>>>>>>>>>>>>/a/

fucking fag
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>>83152609
evangelion is the worst show i've watched ever
it felt like torture from the first second to the last
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>>83172656
the only thing worse is Accel World
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>>83172656
>>>>>>>/gotg/
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>>83152609
>nearly kills toji
>respectably he leaves nerv as he wants no part if his friends could die

Whats the problem?
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>>83172839
cartoon-watching wannabe alphas can't self insert
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>>83172905
you seem very proud of being a nu-male beta faggot
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>>83172998
says the king of nu-males
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>>83173047
no u
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>>83153117
implying anyone would discuss Eva 20 years later if Shinji wasn't the way he was in the show. Get over yourself you idiot
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>>83174675
the only memorable thing about the show is that it has a horrible mc and you're proud of that?
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>>83157620
Code Geass. Lelouch's pretty alpha.
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>>83175111
that was just an example you dingus...man, every reply you post shows how autistic you are. Shinji is just one of the elements that makes Eva relevant even today, while other shows are forgotten for ever
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Rei is the best.
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but, op, he's not Lelouch
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>>83175200
there are many shows older than eva that are relevant today because of their merit, not because a bunch autists get their dicks hard over underage cartoon drawings
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>>83153001

>click thread
>see this guys retardation

Your post is so bad I don't even know where to begin.
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>>83169904
ATATATATATATATATATATATATAT
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>>83157620
one word, JOJO
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>>83175343
Yes, there are but not many are still relevant or discussed today. I didn't say ALL the shows pre-EVA are bad just that a lot of them are literally in the realm of oblivion. You probably have no idea but there are thousands of shows from back then and yet Eva is still the most debated by far
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>>83169076
Shit tier analysis. Shinji himself was not a criticism of otaku, because Shinji doesn't participate in any otaku related shit. The only time he does is once during the End of Evangelion, when he faps to Asuka and is disgusted with himself. That was an obvious middle finger, but it was a one-off moment that was inconsistent with most of his characterization

Shinji is more just a representation of what would happen if a regular school kid was suddenly forced into being given adult responsibilities and expectations when not emotionally or mentally prepared for them. Everyone around him hilariously seems to forget that he's just a child, including the audience itself.
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>>83153117
So EVA is the Snyder of anime?
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>>83152609
his parents were much worst desu
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>>83152609
pleb
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>>83152609
I like him, he's much braver than I would be
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>>83152609
He's a girl. They whine all the time
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