How did this episode make any sense, anyway? Like it's

Darmok is the worst fucking episode in all of Star Trek and yes that includes Sub Rosa, Move Along Home, and Turnabout Intruder. It makes me angry when I see it memed as a classic episode or one of the best. I literally threw my Razer Orbweaver Chroma right into a wall the last time this shit came up in a Star Trek thread. I'm sick of it. I'M FUCKING SICK OF IT. STOP MEMEING DARMOK. IT ISN'T GOOD!

Handle it pleb

Plebs, their opinions wrong.

>>83081034

>their entire culture has switched over to communicating ideas via memes

You're on THIS FUCKING SITE and you don't see that.

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How would Kirk have handled this situation?

>>83083127
I never thought of it like that.

"Kek, when the digits fell."

>>83081034
Only thing that didn't make sense was the aliens speaking English, but that's an issue with all of Star Trek.

>>83083621
UNIVERSAL TRANSLATORS
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
DID YOU NEVER SEE LITTLE GREEN MEN?
DIE RETARD DIE

>>83083188
His crew wouldn't have gone along with denying he was sent there, and instead would have taken the diplomatic hit with the Cardassians to get him back.

>>83083809
Universal translator didn't work in this episode.

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>Reminder that The Inner Light is a big fat waste of time that doesn't teach any lessons or advance the plot of Star Trek in the least

>>83083910
>yet another Picard mindrape instance
How was he allowed to have the photon torpedo codes?

>>83083850
They did, it just didn't make any sense because it translated their words literally

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>>83083984
Riker was the real captain of the Enterprise-D and E after Wolf 359. Picard was merely a figurehead (and sent by Starfleet Intelligence on a suicide mission).

>>83083910
Well I liked it and recommend it

>>83083127
>communicating ideas via memes
What did he mean by this?

But yes, that culture simply talked in memes and stories for so long that speaking like a normie is abnormal.

>>83083850
Universal Translator worked. But as Troi pointed out, words (or rather names) mean nothing if you don't know the story behind them. You say "over 9000", everyone here knows what that means. Your neighbor will ask "over 9000 what?"

>>83084139
Ooohhh. So that's why he kept turning down promotions.

>>83084317
when goku fell,
alive again when the dragons balls found

>>83083809
Trek threads are always full of people who have never seen the show but pretend to be experts because they can skim wikipedia articles.

>>83083910
>He hasn't seen Lessons

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>>83083512
Ayy lmao, sides in orbit.

>>83082326
and here we are able to observe autism in its purest form.

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>>83083512

>>83083910
>doesn't [...] advance the plot
Oh well.

>>83085772
I once tried pretending to be an expert by posting quotes from Farland's Nitpicker's Guides but just got ignored and called autistic.

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>>83081034
fuck all yall

>>83083809
This. How the fuck is this still an issue?
Darmok is pure kino and there's nothing you faggots can do about it.

>>83081034
The river Temarc in winter
Kiteo, his eyes closed
>>83086622
Kiazi's children, their faces wet

>>83081034
>Like it's a neat concept that they used stories to communicate but...they still need to use *language* to communicate the stories to begin with.
How did your parents teach you language before you knew any languages? It works the same way for The Children of Tama.

>Even their names aren't story-based.
They probably wouldn't be in such a culture, it would confuse the stories if their names weren't unique enough, at least until the second person with the name had done something to distinguish themselves.

>>83086560
If you were the one posting the trivia games then you did the right thing when you stopped.

>>83086916
Ha ha, that was me. Also, ha ha because your comment was funny.

>>83082326

>being this mad about anything

>>83087207
Almost that mad about your reddit spacing

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>>83082326
>Move Along Home
Great episode. Why don't you like Darmok though?

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>>83087249
Move Along Home == Second Shap
Darmok == Fifth Shap

Thialo. Prove me wrong.

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What did he mean by this?

>>83083512

"dubsguy, his finger pointed"

>>83089067
Bane, his mask removed

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>soft sci-fi
>how does it make sense

>>83082326
I mean, he's not wrong. This episode was fucking shit.

>>83089413
Anon, bashing /lynchkino/
Pepe, when the peepeepoopoo fell
Girl standing up showing her feminine penis

>>83089554
I got all that.

>>83083127

"CIA and The Big Guy, on the plane"

The Donald, his arms wide.

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>>83089067
Paul Allen, his card with a watermark

Rose, her gender uncertain.

>>83082326

>autism the post

The Orc, his hunger sated.

>>83083127

Mind blown

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>>83083127

>>83083850

The universal translator was translating their words, but the enterprise crew didn't understand the meaning of the phrases. Like if you walk up to a normie and just started sprouting autistic memes.

The janitor, his work unrewarded

Ken-Sama, the water rising.

Anime girl, with wide smile and squinting eyes

>>83082326
Turnabout Intruder was ok

Ducat, reminded of his innocence

Boxxy and Moot, their arms intertwined.

>>83090646
the anime fan, his virginity intact

>>83082326
Pleb, his autism displayed.

>>83082326
>>83083910

Inner Light is unironically the worst Star Trek episode. Trite, hamfisted story, where all the emotional events happen off screen, like Picard's friend's death or when Picard's daughter ran away. We should have seen Picard searching for his daughter instead of being told about it after the fact. We should have seen him look into her eyes and tell her where her home is and realize that he himself needs to stop running away and accept his life. That would have been a terrific scene had we actually seen it. Then there is that cliche scene where we meet his son for the very first time and are told he wants to be a musician. We should have seen him before, got some conflict between Picard and him before his decision to move away. Instead, he just shows up then fucks off and moments later the simulation ends.

And the constant cuts to Picard lying unconscious ruined any suspense or mystery to the situation. It's obvious that it's a simulation from the very start and since we never see Picard fall in love with his wife or raise his kids, there is absolutely no reason to be emotionally involved in anything that happens. And don't even get me started on that shit ending.

Inner Light was an episode that could have worked if done by competent writers. The idea was solid, the execution absolute shit. DS9 did very similar episodes like Far Beyond the Stars and The Visitor but pulled off the emotional aspects much better. The only episodes I'd consider worse are the ones that are offensively bad that ruin aspects of the show, like Threshold or the one where Bashir throws away his entire character to preform a lobotomy on an unwilling patient.

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Sexual organs, inquired about.

>>83084418
>>83084139
actually has my noggin joggin in a toboggan right now
it all adds up

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Cause magic.

What are you a trump voter or something idiot?

>>83090800
You make an argument for it being not a great episode but why unironically the worst?
>we don't know the probes intention
>we don't know if Picard will survive (no more than in any other episode where his life is in danger)
We don't realize heart-wrenching grandeur of it until the final scene where they all admit this is an attempt to be remembered as their world is about to be destroyed.
You seem to have conveniently left out that Kataan is now permanently gone and all he has left is the flute that helped him get over that PTSD of leaving his life behind.

>>83091502

It's the worst because it's the episode that had the most potential ruined by poor writing. There are other episodes that are more poorly written (that Bashir one with Kurn boils my blood whenever I think about it) but Inner Light is the worst by virtue of how frustratingly better it would have been had it not been written by hacks. It wasn't fundamentally flawed, it was just executed poorly.

>We don't realize heart-wrenching grandeur of it until the final scene where they all admit this is an attempt to be remembered as their world is about to be destroyed.

Again, the problem is that there is no real reason to care for these people. All the scenes that would have forged a connection with the viewer is left out of the episode and put in through exposition. It's classic telling, not showing. When the daughter is telling Picard that her son will never grow up and that they're already dead, I get a big "so what" moment from the episode because we don't know these people, not like Picard did. It's like the deaths in Rogue One, it's not emotional just because people are dying, you have to build the characters first before the audience will feel anything for their deaths. It didn't feel like Picard was losing his life, his friends, his family, because we weren't there when he made those connections.

I guess I can see why people would feel empathy for a lost race trying to be remembered but I wouldn't call that scene heart-wrenching in the least. The idea is neat but there is nothing heart-wrenching about the conclusion to the episode as it was written.

And like the episode with O'Brien's mind prison, dealing with the PTSD would have been more interesting than spending an hour showing us what happened in it.

>>83091731
>When the daughter is telling Picard that her son will never grow up and that they're already dead, I get a big "so what" moment from the episode because we don't know these people, not like Picard did.

What do you mean "we don't know these people"?
A two-parter wouldn't have satisfied that I feel like. We know enough about his wife and his friend Kamin. I feel like you just outed yourself as doing the 'devil's argument' because that is part of the gut-punch is that we do get to know them. We get to see a part of their world and Picard learning to live in their culture.
It's not exactly Titanic but on that point you are wrong.

>And like the episode with O'Brien's mind prison, dealing with the PTSD would have been more interesting than spending an hour showing us what happened in it.

Part of the PTSD actually happens on Kataan/in his mind. He has transported himself off of the Enterprise and is forced to live a life away from his crew and his previous world. That's how he starts playing the flute and we see him use it as a coping mechanism as he gets older until it becomes a big hobby.

>>83082326
HIS EYES OPEN!