What have I actually just watched? Are Tarkowsky's other

>>82964662
That is as straightforward as you are going to get.
Watch more movies.

>>82964675
It felt to me that even Bergman's films were easier to understand.

>>82964675
yeah, even normies understood this film, just check the ratings on IMDB or Letterboxd
OP you need to get good and appriciate good films

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>>82964710
Not really since you are probably american and the ones around you are European immigrants so to some extent you can relate with the way of thinking.
Eastern europe in particular comblock just think differently because of environment.
Its just different,you really need to know the conditions the movie was made in and get acquainted with the day to day life here.

>>82964783
I live in Eastern Europe dude. It's like expecting every Swede to understand "Persona".

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>>82964847
Then I dont know what to tell you I guess you are too young and haven't lived through transition?
I related pretty much instantly.

>>82964891
related to what? how do you explain all those millenials 'getting this' film even though they didn't live through transition as you said it
I suspect that a lot of people praise this film not because they actually liked it but because they feel that they are supposed to and they intellectualized what they've seen to add it worth

>>82964934
Peeps think deep in a beautiful irradiated area and humans are prolly mutating. What's there to get?

>>82964934
Look there is a lot of nuance in these movies from growing up and realizing that you belong in nature,to fighting for the daily bread in commie countries because those were the times.
I mean I need to explain the last 20 years of bullshit to even scratch the surface of messages the movie is trying to manifest.

>>82964749
No they didn't. It's all just circlejerking over a popular and "iconic" movie.

>>82964934
Why don't you search for analysis and explanations of this movie yourself?

>>82964989
are you saying that Stalker is a story about struggle in communist countries and as extension of that about struggle as a whole - because that's just too general?

>>82965016
I cant follow your sentence since not native English speaker.
But look at it this way,the movie is mash up of Roadside Picnic,directors early life(working as prspector),and the daily grind of the Russian citizen.

>>82964989
i.e. It's convoluted

>>82964662
Stalker is pretty straightforward, aswell as other Tarkovsky films.
What is happening on screen is what is happening, there is no hidden meaning which you have to puzzle out,

Think of it like poetry put in a visual medium.

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>>82964662
>man produces bomb
>tour guide tries to disarm bombman
>third, un-involved, and possible victim decides "No, you can't have his bomb."
>both sit and ignore asshole fiddling with bomb directly behind them
>bombman litters in sacred fishtank

>>82964662
It's a parable about different people in commieland.

So really what is it about

>>82965560
So the imagery only exists to create an atmosphere?

>>82966424
THIS

>>82965560
>It's a Tarkovsky denies having symbolism in his films despite the fact humans communicate entirely through symbols episode

stalker is a mediocre, overlong, nonsensical film about people walking around a field. there are beautiful shots littered throughout the film, making it like an art exhibit where you have to swim through an olympic size pool filled with molasses between each piece.

>It's boring and unnecessarily long so it must have a deep meaning.

>>82965753
>i didn't get the actual meaning of the movie
>where's the action lul wtf bombzz

Ask me how i know you're underaged.

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>still waiting on a real/criterion bluray

this movie is beautiful

>>82970238
There is digital remaster in the works,I think its scheduled for release really soon like in a month or so.

Not one person has said what it's about, Get out of her stalker fans

>>82964662
It`s a Poem, ignorant Cuck.

>>82964662
The excrement of a total pretentious hack

>>82971180
The remaster is already out, just not on Criterion.

And it looks absolutely magnificent
https://youtu.be/TGRDYpCmMcM

Better then any previous blu ray version by miles, even on youtube.

>>82970238
Criterion blu ray is out in July.

>>82972699
I know about that version,I was talking about proper Blueray release remaster version.
Someone told me about it and I forgot where I left the link.

>>82972798
>>82972793
Yeah I was talking about this.
This anon knows

>>82964934
>I suspect that a lot of people praise this film not because they actually liked it but because they feel that they are supposed to and they intellectualized what they've seen to add it worth

Also Lem's Solaris is better.
This is undoubtedly true.

I think the real question is why was stalked filmed in 4:3 when all his previous works had been cinema aspect ratios and why the fuck has it taken so long to release a bluray remaster when again, his previous works already have them.

>>82973136
>why was stalked filmed in 4:3
Because the original master was destroyed by incompetence and the whole movie was re shot from the beginning.
That costs money.

>>82966424
its about the characaters, their ideas, the greater ideas they represent
the movie doesnt have any specific answer

>>82964662
as of all the tarkovsky movies I've watched (andrei rublev, solaris, stalker, the mirror and ivan's childhood) Ivan's Childhood was definitely the most straightforward

his films are too cerebral for me

>>82964662
Read the novel it makes more sense.

It's in theaters across the US the next few days FYI

>Are Tarkowsky's other films more straightforward?
Yeah dude, check out The Mirror.

You should just watch Tarkovsky's Solaris if you want a casual film.

>>82975605
Just saw it in theaters on Monday, and the new restoration looks amazing.

>>82975893
35mm?

All of Tarkovsky's films are now on Filmstruck now btw. Was pretty surprised to see Nostalghia and The Sacrifice were added.

>>82977210
Unfortunately just DCP, but being the new digital remaster it still looks great.

>>82964662
you saw a masterpiece. and no, tarkowsky's goal is not to entertain the masses, but to uplift them through a revelation of truth.

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Who has already pre ordered the Criterion Blu Ray?

>>82965560

Tarkovsky's only non straight forward film is Mirror which is bits of pieces of his own personal life

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This needs to end

>>82964710
Because Bergman doesn't make confusing films

>>82966424

Its about the human desire to seek their own desires fulfilled which is what the room is all about but it comes with consequences best known to The Stalker

>>82977703
>Persona
>Hour of the wolf
>Autumn Sonata
>Cries & Whispers
>Fanny and Alexander

>>82977688
Logout from your google account before posting.
The captcha links everything even on your youtube account.

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>>82971180
>>82972699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB7jVTut3-g

So what's the difference with the Criterion? Just having possible nicer subs? Although I did hear that they did a retranslation too

Also I don't understand wtf Stalker was supposed to be about, but it's pretty and foreign and it makes me look cultured

>>82977210
>>82977375
wouldn't a film version look like shit now? I was under the impression that those old films going around theaters are spliced and cut up and you're better off with a DCP anyway

>>82964662

he had to keep the anti-communism banter abstract otherwise he'd be gulaged

Ivan's Childhood is his most straightforward and linear film. Maybe because it's his first. But his films are very spiritual and poetic.

>>82978790
watch 'go and see', it looks similar to Stalker and is a simple but beautiful story

60 post in and this >>82977711 is the only Anon who got what the film was about
/tv/ really is the lowest IQ board

>>82964662
o ty kurwo. twój fred został zlany to tutaj przyszedłes się płaszczyć?

>tfw english speaking people will never understand Gherman movies

>>82964662
It's a flick about faith. Also the dog is important.

Also everyone involved in location shooting died a slow horrible death (industrial waste is a hell of a drug). Also an earlier workprint shot from a different more roadside picnic-y script died in a fire so they had to reshoot it.

>>82979332
you mean Alexey German?

>>82979513
PTA is god, kys yourself famalam

People who like the Tark enjoy slow burn cinetaography and don't care about 2deep4u

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>>82979727
>slow burn cinetaography

>>82977816
All straightforward for non retards. Everything is told to you in the visuals. It's not like Lynchian type obtuse esoteric visual symbolism

>>82979209
Not just that, most people here actively hate film

>>82979795
You can count the number of cuts in stalker on your hands. KYS yourself dumb phoneposter.

>>82979209
Except that's wrong

>>82978837
Depends on the film but they can make new 35mm prints from the negatives of films if they have them.

>>82979903
>inb4 it's about Communism hurr durr!

>>82966424
Faith and doubting one's faith. Just like every other Tarkovsky film pretty much.

>>82966424
It's about the Stalker lamenting the destruction of faith in the Soviet Union and in the rest of modern society, with the writer and professor offering two facets of mankind's social modern consciousness, and showing how futile this method of seeing the world is

>>82966756
The imagery exists to be images

>>82979834
even if easy they are not straightforward, are you fucking dumb?

>>82980436
If it's straightforward visually, then yes it's straightforward. Fanny and Alexander being a difficult or obtuse film? Give me a break

>>82977290
I must admit that I viscerally hated Tarkovsky's "Nostalgia" and completely hated the use of Beethoven in it. I've seen it only once, but none of the Tarkovsky films that I have seen did I think are really good.

>>82977501
Don't pre order it anon, it comes out the month of the B&N 50% off sale so just get it then for 19 bucks.

>>82980874
This desu

>>82970077
>Only children search for logic
>adults float around on the flowery tides of poetry and passion