>"long ago in the heart of France" >half of the

>>82924779
Literally
>I'm not a racist, but...
lol

>>82924822
There's nothing racist about getting triggered by the lack of authenticity in my fairy tales.

Lots of blacks in France at the time.

>>82924779
>not knowing France always had a large black population
>not knowing French kings were descended from africans

0/10 go away /pol/

>>82924779
>the heart of France
If they're talking about Massif centrale, I never saw niggers in my area.

Wait, is this a shitty /pol/ thread or did they actually have black people in a movie set in 18th century France?

>>82924822
What's wrong with "I'm not a racist but"?

>>82924896
>implying there were not lots of black people in 18th century France
>complains about anachronism while being completely ignorant of history

>>82924779
>Not even a racist

you should be

>>82924926
They had black people they literally bought as curiosities at the royal court, but that's it.

>>82924896
>did they actually have black people in a movie set in 18th century France
I'm just watching this. Literally in the first scene the prince has a ball and half of the women there are black. The second scene is in the village and around 1/5th of the people are black.

>>82924779
i dont really give a shit but it is frustrating because i know theres no way they would do this with white people in Mulan or Aladdin

>>82924926
There were, in their American colonies and in the court of nobles as pets, not in the fucking Champagne or Auvergne or whatever other French region the movie is supposed to take place

>>82924926
You gotta admit it was a little weird that a black man was a fucking librarian of all things.

>>82924884
I'm French and this is bullshit

>>82924926
Fucking retard, very very few black people were in France, you're right >>82924954

>>82924822
That's what he said, we're all glad you can read. The monkey learned a trick! But what's wrong with it?

>>82924779
they did it because if they didnt do it they would get slated by mainstream commentators and panned in the press like the OSCARS SO WHITE fiasco a couple of years ago

>>82925001
it's the truth now goy

>>82924954
>>82924973
>>82924996
>>82925001
>>82925014
Stupid dumb racist scum. Blacks fought for Napoleon among other things. Why are racists so fucking deluded?

>>82924779
They want to perpetuate the myth that multiracialism is normal and not an aberration.

>>82924899
It's always used as a preface to a racist thought

>>82925092
You can stop pretending now

>>82925094
>implying multiracialism isn't normal
>implying Normans, Celts and Angles were the same race by racist standards
>implying "white" is not the result of racemixing
Lmaoing

>>82925105
How is "why are there x people in a setting without x people" racist?

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>>82925121
This is Alexander Dumas' father

>>82925105
>Twitter and Buzzfeed told me so
Writing off his comment as wacist because of a phrase is a shitty thing to do

>>82925157
Yes, he was from Haiti, a French colony mainly inhabited by African slaves, and he was only half black, his father was a French noble that liked to fuck his slave maid

>>82925157
implying nations that had empires led the colonies population enter the metropolis
this is some next level revisionism
and the anon was talking about middle ages not the 19800's

>>82925252
>moving the goal posts
>>82925254
I don't think beauty and the beast was set in the Middle Ages but I might be wrong

more black people live in france in percentage that white french ever lived in africa when it was a french colony
multiculturalism came after the fall of the empires, ironically
same in spain, there were no latinos in spain when the had their empire, now that they no longer have colonies, they have latinos in spain

>>82925123
Multiracialism isn't normal. The Normans, Celts and Angles were all White by racist (and everyone else's) standards. "White" is not the result of race mixing, it's the result of the opposite, of the homo sapiens that migrated to Europe being isolated enough to have evolved differently to other humans.

>>82924822
You literally have no argument.

>>82925278
>moving the goal posts
I'm not moving the goalpost, just stating that he did not live in France until his father bought him back after selling him into slavery, because he had no other heirs. He is a curious exception but hardly proof of any sizeable black population living in France during its history before the XX century, which is a completely false statement

>>82924779
>beast
>tall dark and handsome

>>82925278
>moving the goal posts
The goal post is "half of the people are black". You haven't scored a goal with your literally 1 example.

>>82925298
>they're skin is the same (which it really isn't) so they are the same forget the
>different haplogroups
>different language
>different religion
>different history
Yeah okay Varg all Europeans worshiped Wotan

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>>82925157
And this is Pushkin's great grandfather. Wtf Russian Empire is black now.

>black people were oppressed and mistreated by whitey throughout history
>Europe was always diverse and blacks lived with whitey in peace and harmony for hundreds of years, being treated just like every other citizen, with the exact same opportunities and rights.

Which one is it? It's hard to keep up with history constantly being changed these days.

Hollywood FINALLY stops trying to cover up the fact that proud intelligent African-Americans have been present and contributing to important events all throughout the entire worlds history and you racist Drumpf supporters throw a tizzy and demand it get hidden again

>>82925316
Slave trade started in the Iberian peninsula in the 1400s. Metropolitan areas of France abolished slavery very early on (this is how Dumas got freed) There were no statistics for this at the time (at least not very good statistical sources), but, I am assuming there were enough black Africans in France at the time for it not to be completely ahistorical to include them in this story.

>>82925351
>different haplogroups
I'm sure they knew about DNA in the 7th century AD
>>different language
>>different religion
>>different history
None of those things define a race, they define cultures, and society was hardly multicultural back then: different people kept to themselves (also because Angles and Normans would have been the nobility while Britons would have been the peasants and clerics), or one culture eventually imposed itself over the others (like Norman culture eventually did in England)

>>82925351
I didn't say you should forget anything. A human is very different to a dog, but that fact doesn't refute the reality that we're both mammals. There are degrees of separation, this isn't complicated.

I don't think many Nationalists would have a problem with you using the violent oppression and cultural genocide meted out by the Normans/Angles/Saxons/Jutes as a advertisement for mass immigration and multiracislism though, frankly.

>>82925252
>tfw no qt black slave maid

why even live

>>82924847
>authenticity in my fairy tales
>authenticity
>in fairy tales
This never happened anon.
They can tell the story however they want and no one can tell them they're wrong.

>>82925421
Except England doesn't speak a Nordic language and England doesn't have a Nordic culture even now. And we were talking about multiculturalism so the fact that they had different cultures is relevant. White Muslims and non Muslims genocide each other in the balkans regularly. And if different DNA doesn't define race idk what does. You are literally just hating melanin content and it doesn't make sense except for your fee fees

>>82925373
>black people were oppressed and mistreated by whitey throughout history
this is used when there are not enough blacks to make people feel bad and open the border
>Europe was always diverse and blacks lived with whitey in peace and harmony for hundreds of years, being treated just like every other citizen, with the exact same opportunities and rights.
this is used when there are already enough blacks and they are predicted to become the world's majority so the history books have to be changed to somewhat integrate them

>>82925400
>but, I am assuming there were enough black Africans in France at the time for it not to be completely ahistorical to include them in this story
Here's the part where you're retarded

>>82924822
you have to go back

>>82925400
We have numbers in 1800s that were in the low thousands for a country - even then - of millions, which would have no doubte centred around Paris. The idea that a random rural village would have been dotted with niggers like it was nothing is comical, frankly. Doctor Who is even worse for it. The producers are genuinely deluded.

>>82925449
cultural authenticity is important ESPECIALLY in myths, fairy tales and legends of said culture. I'm sure if a subsaharan african legend was made into a movie and it starred 50% white people, you would be among the first to complain about it.

>>82925400
>Slave trade started in the Iberian peninsula
there weren't slaves in the peninsula though
it was from africa to the american colonies that have had their native population crippled by desiease and a cheap workforce was needed
the caribbean population was extinct so that's why there were negros sent there, same as brazil wich was mostly empty
regions like mexico or peru didn't have slaves cause there was no genocide there so there was already a cheap workorce
in north america they were sent cause they were just lazy

>>82925428
There is no difference between races genetically and before you throw IQ into the argument try to imagine what the samples were for your racist memes and realize that those statistics like all statistics are fallible and using them to define your world view is confusing the map for the territory. And speaking of dogs there is a reason you wouldn't eat one or abuse one. Hell im a vegetarian so my compassion isn't even limited to different species but whatever.

>>82925400
>Slave trade started in the Iberian peninsula in the 1400s
Europeans didn't import African slaves to Europe in any sizeable quantity, otherwise there would be a historical Afro-European population just like in the USA, of which there is none, and registries of the slaves being sold in Europe, of which there is none
>Metropolitan areas of France abolished slavery very early on (this is how Dumas got freed)
No, he was freed because his father bought him back and freed him
>There were no statistics for this at the time (at least not very good statistical sources)
There are parish registries, graves and the fact that there are basically no people of African descent in France or any other part of Europe from before the last century to suggest the fact that there was indeed no sizeable African population (especially Sub-Saharan African) in Europe before decolonization

>>82925496
Who has numbers? And who is to say that village wasn't different from the rest? Again you guys are complaining about something so retarded it hurts.

representation is important, ok? it doesn't matter how things were in france a couple hundred years ago. today's society is diverse, the audience for movies is diverse, said audience wants and needs to see themselves represented on screen. deal with it.

>>82925497
>I'm sure if a subsaharan african legend was made into a movie and it starred 50% white people,
Mansa Musa with Michael Fassbender when?

>>82924779
That's Satan.

All this blatant satanism in Hollywood and you don't bat an eye

>>82925298
>the homo sapiens that migrated to Europe being isolated enough to have evolved differently to other humans
>according to my ass
You realize "Europe" is a completely arbitrary region right?

>>82925458
Do you even know who the Normans were? It's not the same thing as "Nordics". The language they spoke was French, and it transformed English from a purely Germanic language into a Romanic-Germanic hybrid.

>>82925458
English is a Germanic language just like German, Swedish, Norwegian etc.

>>82925530
b8

France was a colonial empire that had a lot of land on Africa.

That's the problem with colonialism. You can't conquer and exploit other countries without some of the colonial population always leaks back to the mainland. Hundreds of years later, you dumb motherfuckers complain about having niggers in your country. Should have stayed out of Africa then, asshole.

>>82925508
>There is no difference between races genetically

So you're saying a forensic scientist couldn't tell the race of a person based on a DNA sample? That's wrong, you know that, right?

>>82925535
>You realize "Europe" is a completely arbitrary region right?

No? It's bordered by the Mediterranean to the south and the Ural and Caucasus mountains to the East.

>>82925508
>There is no difference between races genetically
liberals now antiscience

>>82925535
>You realize "Europe" is a completely arbitrary region right?
relativism now in geography

>>82925536
my bad you are right but still I was thinking of the Norse invasions of Briton either way French and Angles and Gaels though similar are not the same. Homogenous whiteness is not real.

>>82924822
>I'm not a racist, but the Blacks should go back to Africa

>>82925458
>Except England doesn't speak a Nordic language and England doesn't have a Nordic culture even now
Normans had stopped being Nordic in culture after living some centuries in France, they had adopted metropolitan French culture and that is reflected in the fact that the English language, while retaining its original Germanic grammar, has a blatantly French-influenced vocabulary
>And we were talking about multiculturalism so the fact that they had different cultures is relevant
Theirs was not a multicultural society, the different cultures either barely interacted with each other (see how Celtic language survived in Galles and Ireland, despite being dominated by Norsmen) or they were completely replaced (see what happened to Anglian and Celtic culture in England)
>And if different DNA doesn't define race idk what does
Phenotype does, differences in the DNA don't necessarily translate to that, especially if your base of separating race is something like the genes in Y-chromosome

>>82925546
>That's the problem with colonialism. You can't conquer and exploit other countries without some of the colonial population always leaks back to the mainland. Hundreds of years later, you dumb motherfuckers complain about having niggers in your country. Should have stayed out of Africa then, asshole.
this is so fucking wrong
colonies population only went to europe after the european powers lost their empires because too new empires arise, USA and the USSR who control global politics and wanted it that way to keep europe down forever

>>82924779
be racist. it's natural.

>>82925508
>There is no difference between races genetically
Yeah right, they all must have distinct phenotypes my magic then. You should take this revelation to the press, then maybe all those companies that can tell you your heritage from a DNA sample might get sued for false advertising. It's fucking amazing how they always fluke the rights answers. This is mind blowing.

>statistics are fallible but my baseless assertions are solid

Get back to school, nigger.

>>82925535
you realize we all just float in magma right? i mean why should I pay my taxes in france and not in the cayman islands, we are all the same landmass yo

>>82925551
>includes islands for some reason
>includes Scandinavian for some reason
>doesn't include turkey for some reason

>>82925570
considering there are no large geographical barriers between europe, asia minor and north africa, our definition of what's "european" is completely arbitrary.

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>>82924779
>why would they do this

To retcon history in the minds of the public. To seed a general sense that it was always like this.

They think it's a morally good thing to do because they believe in the multikulti society. If they can lie and manipulate people For The Greater Good, they think it's okay.

Ask liberal teachers and they will say it's their duty to instil values in students. Ask media people and they will say it's their duty to "fight the fascist narratives" or something similar. They really believe their manipulation is a moral good, so it doesn't matter that they lie.

Steven Moffat said it outright. See the pic. He admits it's a lie, and that they're doing it to manipulate people's perception.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/jun/02/steven-moffat-there-was-going-to-be-a-black-doctor-who

It's disgustingly Orwellian, but again, these people believe lying for The Cause is just. They're exactly like christians who think it's moral to "lie for Jesus"; as long as people convert, it's morally good. Social Justice is a religion.

>>82925546
It only started making territorial gains in Black Africa after the Convention of Berlin, and blacks only started moving in en masse AFTER the dissolution of said empire

>>82925546
only 5 nations had african empires
somehow all europe have to have negroes

>>82925573
Complete homogeneity does not exist, that much is obvious. To say that a Sub-Saharan African is at the same distance, or even nearly the same distance, to an Anglo-Saxon as a Frenchman is would be retarded, however, and even children instinctively recognise as much. It takes a lot of brainwashing and social engineering to get people to believe otherwise.

>>82925627
No, it's completely based on culture, bloodshed and history.

>>82925528
We know it's retarded, that's why we're complaining. The fact that you feel the need to be an apologist for Disney however is quite suspicious.

>>82925627
no it's not
asia minor is asia is just that the turks have tracia wich was always europe

>>82925649
desu the most nigger filled ones are France, England and Portugal, which all had large colonial empires. The rest of Europe mainly has Arab, Turks and Chinese

>>82925544
>b8
How is he wrong though?

>>82925626
we're talking about genetics you fucking mongrel. you can't say "hurr europeans evolved differently" and then not have a reason why europe doesn't include anatolia when there are literally no geographic boundaries between the two areas

>>82925655
evolution is based on culture and history? what the fuck? this doesn't make sense anyways since byzantium was the only western civilization in europe for a fucking millennia. along with al-andalus which apparently doesn't count as european despite being in spain

Reminder that the so calle minority blacks will be half the world population in 2100 and the companies are just adapting to the great replacement

>>82925627
>north africa
what's the suez canal?

>>82925508
Then why don't white and black people have epicanthic folds like Asians?

>>82924822
Fuck (You)

>>82925627
>what are the ural mountains
>what is the caspian sea
>what is the black sea
>what is the mediterranean sea

>>82925682
>suez canal
a man-made canal in egypt that didn't exist until ~140 years ago? dunno what that has to do with anything

>>82925670
>The rest of Europe mainly has Arab, Turks and Chinese
yet thanks to the EU they now have to open their borders to africa?
and they have turks not because they had colonies but because they were the ones that were a turkish colony
somehow turkish imperialism is ok and turks in europe can stay but whites in africa can not

>>82925573
>Homogenous whiteness is not real
One think liberals get right is that race doesn't exist. White and black means nothing, those terms are made up, only ethnicities exist. Saying that one ethnicity is more white than the other doesn't mean anything at all really.

>>82925627
>there are no large geographical barriers between europe, asia minor and north africa
What are the Bosphorus and the Mediterranean Sea? The only part where the border between Europe and Asia is unclear is towards Russia

>>82925535
>what are continents

>>82925702
>thanks to the EU they now have to open their borders to africa
You're retarded.

>>82925698
>what is the english channel
>what is the north sea
>what is the baltic sea
>what is the mediterranean sea
>what are the alps
oh i guess those don't count though for some reason huh

>>82925675
>we're talking about genetics you fucking mongrel. you can't say "hurr europeans evolved differently" and then not have a reason why europe doesn't include anatolia when there are literally no geographic boundaries between the two areas
may because anatolia wich was greek was invaded and raped by turks who come from turkestan that is mostly asian? do you even history?
>>82925701
don't aply your relativism in geograpy
even though the suez canal was manmade, the red sea was always the division with africa
ask the arabs if you don't believe me

>>82925717
>Bosphorus
Okay then the English/Irish aren't European since they're separated by the English Channel. Same with the Scandanavians sans Denmark, and the Sicilians/Cypriots

>>82925675
Anatolia was never considered part of Europe, it was called "Asia Minor" for a reason

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>>82924779
Not in the future, they were people and these actors are people
Seriously move on it's not like YOU'RE even French

>>82925725
>>82925725
am I? do you even read the news? don't you know about how the eastern nations are geting blackmailed to allow huge refugee (africans mostly) population or they get their funds cut?
please if you don't follow current politics other thand muh drumpf stay out of this

>>82925742
I didn't realize Scandinavia was an island, and I don't recall the British Isles or Sicily being called Asia Minor since ancient times

>>82925627
>includes islands for some reason

It includes islands which belong to nation states that are part of Europe, yes. There's more than one layer to geography. Name a continent where islands off its coasts aren't included in this manner.

>includes Scandinavian for some reason

This is where I start to think you're just trolling. Why on Earth wouldn't it be included? It's literally connected to the rest of Europe by land. Do you know what Kaliningrad, the Baltic states and Finland are?

>doesn't include turkey for some reason

Actually, it does include the tiny part of Turkey that's on the western side of the Bosporus Strait... That's why Turkey is both part of European qualifiers for various sports events, the Eurovision and has been considered for EU membership. How about you stop spouting completely wrong bullshit?

>considering there are no large geographical barriers between europe, asia minor and north africa, our definition of what's "european" is completely arbitrary.

Yeah... It's not like there's a sea or anything. Are you a butthurt Moroccan or something?

>>82925728
What point are you attempting to make? You think that the various European peoples just sprouted out of the ground in their respective lands? You think they didn't all have common ancestors that migrated together, and then more than retreated to the same places during the ice age? Fucking hell you people are retarded.

>>82925733
>may because anatolia wich was greek was invaded and raped by turks who come from turkestan that is mostly asian?
>and the seljuks completely replaced the local EUROPEAN populace
Okay I guess Spain isn't European since they were raped by muslim bedouins and african berbers

HOW CAN YOU NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTON???
WHAT YOU MEAN HUMANS EVOLVED DIFFERENT AND SEPARATED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND NOW ARE DIFFERENT?
DON'T YOU SEE THAT CANICHES AND DEBORMANS ARE JUST THE SAME RACE? THE DOG RACE? THEY ARE THE SAME

>>82925764
Stop reading fake news, anon.

>>82925782
Anatolians were not Greeks, they spoke a different language and had a completely different culture. The only arguably European parts of Asia Minor were its Western and Northern coasts city states

>>82925782
now that's moving the goalpost
if you really are comparing turkey with spain we don't need to debate anymore

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>>82925770
>>82925773
>>82925780
>human evolution abides by modern borders and the ancient names used to refer to regions

>>82925811
>the human race has had significant evolution in the last 3000 years

>>82925782
did greece reconquer anatolia like the spanish did? no, then your comparison is bollocks

>>82925798
So literal speeches from Junker are now fake got it

>>82925807
>everyone with a different language and different culture followed a different track of evolution
Has race science gone too far?

>>82925789
>evolution
>over thousands of years
Stay in school kids

>>82925789
>what are slip genes
>evolution happens in less than 10 thousand years
Kys retard

>>82924996
Watching it I thought it was a homage to the Dumas writers

>>82925836
>evolution has happened in historical times
Stop posting any time

>>82925832
>every time an area is conquered its population is completely replaced with the population of those who conquered it

>turks come from bactria and invade, enslave and pillage europe with an arab religion
>500 centuries later
>we wuz europeans and shiet

>>82925856
i think if you weren't fucking illiterate you'd realize that he's agreeing with you

>>82925831
ever heard of the Flynn effect?

>>82925811
Thus confirming my previous assertion.

Whatever carer you have to help you cope with your reading comprehension issues, you should go and fetch her before responding again.

>>82925841
>>82925836
>blacks and asians are just the same
if you put a jap in africa he would then turn negro because the sun
>this is what the left believes

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>>82925254
> 19800s

Why was everyone british tho

>>82925860
when the invader force is military like in spain with arabs it doesn't happen when it's a demographic invasion like turkey it does

>>82925867
They did not completely replace the population, a minuscule part of modern Turks have actually Turkic DNA. Anatolians were simply always ugly inbred shits
>>82925881
Have you ever thought about the fact that it is ridiculous to think that it may be due to genetic causes?

>>82925889
>skin color is somehow more meaningful than eye or hair color

>>82924779
well black populations are on the rise in America where a big portion of a movie's budget can be made back. If people know people of their own race are in a movie, they are more likely to see it. See how much tyler perry movies sell to blacks. Don't play dumb. Diversity is forced in movies to make black people a little more comfortable in the theaters

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>>82925889
>there is a thousand times more genetic variance between you and your sister than between you and some isolated nigger tribesman in the heart of africa
>RACE IS BASED ON GENETICS!!

>>82925856
It has though. There's a measurable decrease in cervix size in only the last hundred years due to the number of caesarean sections performed. A greater and greater proportion of women are physically incapable of reproducing naturally in the developed world every year.

>>82925922
>They did not completely replace the population, a minuscule part of modern Turks have actually Turkic DNA.
then stop with the turk nationalism, change the name of the nation, change the flag, and skip islam or tengrism

>>82925911
>when it's a demographic invasion like turkey it does
wtf, you mean the like five thousand seljuks that were actually even around to conquer the fucking place? you're such a retard

>>82925421
> I'm sure they knew about DNA in the 7th century

So DNA didn't exist back then? They were different haplogroups regardless and saying there was 'one European race' is simply fallacious.

>>82925949
Source for this idiotic fairy tale?

>>82925932
>there is a thousand times more genetic variance between you and your sister than between you and some isolated nigger tribesman in the heart of africa

No, no there isn't.

>>82925932>>82925924
you don't believe what you are saying, you are just shitposting, go get a negro to breed your gf and fap to the one race the human race meme

>>82925932
>there is a thousand times more genetic variance between you and your sister than between you and some isolated nigger tribesman in the heart of africa
You might genuinely be retarded.

>>82925957
Protip: nationalism is an invention of Romanticism, it has no basis in any real history and culture in 99% of cases. The Turk elites that proposed Turkic nationalism were mostly Greek and Albanian by origin

>>82924779

>Giant obsessive monster thing
>lol it's not real there's black people.

Fuck you.

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>>82924847
>>82925607
>>82925530
>>82925373


i bet you get just as angry about how innacurate it is that jesus is never cast as a middle-eastern man, it's just not historically accurate

or how english knights in medieval films are never syrian immigrants like saint george, it's just not historically accurate

oh wait, i don't bet that at all

>>82925969
>>82925973
>>82925981
>i have never done even a modicum of research into the subject i endlessly debate on a fucking anime image board
if you had any knowledge about human genetics AT ALL you'd know why that was a trap comparison.

but you're too fucking stupid and uneducated to even point it out. absolutely pathetic

>>82925594
> Normans had stopped being Nordic in culture after living some centuries in France, they had adopted metropolitan French culture

Whoa, it's almost like France was a multicultural place for a while, who woulda thunk

>>82925961
>>82925961
the ottoman empire allow free migration between their borders
some turks are only white cause they enslaved white girls from eastern europe because they were that ugly
we don't want you in the EU, you are not European
USA just wanted a military base next to Russia and that's it

>>82925497
I wouldnt complain, cause that shit doesnt matter to me as much as it does to you. I mean what did you expect from a live action remake of a disney classic in 2017? Besides, the movie was shit anyway.

>>82925990
wich explains what? what are you trying to say? what's your whole point? I really don't get where this is going

>>82925932
>there is a thousand times more genetic variance between you and your sister than between you and some isolated nigger tribesman in the heart of africa
not really. slight biological differences. Saying a thousand is really hyperbolic. No one is saying race isn't biological in some way, but you have to admit some parts of it are social. For example, whiteness is usually reserved for groups that share a similar skin tone and also dont have a massive apparent amount of shortcomings (see: lmao russians aren't white)

>>82925963
You are able to spot the differences in Y-chromosome alleles without modern science? Teach me
>>82926008
Woah, it's almost like Normans lived in one single region separated from the rest of the French population in a culturally homogeneous region

>>82926006
>but you're too fucking stupid and uneducated to even point it out.
Off you go.

>>82924822
>being historically accurate is racist

nigger

>>82925973
You literally think it's impossible to acknowledge that multiculturalism is the basis for history without injecting cuckold fantasies into it? It sounds like you're the cuck.

>>82926006
>you just don't know what I know even though I won't explain you what you don't know
great debate skills

>>82926052
>>82926059
>difference between a man and a woman
>difference between a man and a man
Good job being retarded I guess

>>82926036
That the fact that Turkic nationalism is a thing despite Turks barely being Turkic to begin with is nothing to write home about, every nationalist movement is built up on almost nothing

>>82924926
there were some, pretending they were a sizable portion of the populace is where it fails

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>>82925992
this.

Shakespeare wrote a black protagonist in 1600 and audiences got over it then better than this board is getting over it now.

>>82926042
whiteness is an american meme
doesn't mean blacks are the same as whites genetically

>>82926056
>HISTORICALLY
>ACCURATE
>FAIRY
>TALES

>>82926006
I know why that was a trap comparison, it's because the Y chromosome is supposedly the one containing genes that are the most prone to mutation. Doesn't make your statement any less wrong, though.

>>82924779
Cultural Marxism

>>82926008
>he thinks normandy was part of france

Seriously, just how many times are you going to humiliate yourself before you call it a day?

>>82926081
France is a real place buddy

>>82926057
>You literally think it's impossible to acknowledge that multiculturalism is the basis for history
like war? like patriarchy? like eslavery? like religion? what exatly are you saying? that because an empire was multicultural I have to accept being a minority in my own nation or what?
I'm spanish there were no negros or pakis here for a millenia and if some politicians decided that there should I don't have to accept it

>>82924779
>France
>there's talking furniture and a half-man half-monster noble running around
COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC. DID THEY EVEN DO THEIR RESEARCH?

>>82926070
>yoooo you are the same as a negro cause you both have dicks, your sister? she has a vagaina, now that's a real difference haha
get through puberty quick please

>>82926071
>every nationalist movement is built up on almost nothing
no it's not, it may be in the turkish case but don't compare it to france germany or spain

>>82926057
"multiculturalism" is a misnomer

while there were some cultures that absorbed others like the Romans, most cultural clashes end in one side getting raped, murdered, and otherwise oppressed until it stops existing and its descendants assimilate into the new, dominate culture.

>>82926115
>I want all the benefits of globalism without actually having to interact with people from other cultures
Sorry fa m.

>>82926131
Genetically speaking, yep pretty much. The genetic differences between men and women are considerably greater than those between two man of different "races" (which is not a genetic classification anyways). Humans also have remarkable genetic similarity compared to other animals. Who would have thought?

>>82926115
Who were the Moors Spanish bro? Were they white ?

>>82926071
>turks are not really turks so let's open the borders of your nation that doesn't have to do anything with turks being turks
>trust me goy

>>82924822
now imagine you were watching some movie about Mulan, set in china, and half the people are black....

>>82926160
>benefits of globalism

Ain't many of those unless you're an economic migrant from the third world or a 1% business owner.

>>82926153
That is a very oversimplified narrative of culture, it is like you hate history or something.

>>82926057
But the societies were never multicultural, different cultures lived segregated from each other even within the same nation. Italy has had an Albanian minority for 500 years, they still speak Albanian to this day, Basque used to speak Basque only until centralized nation states became a thing despite being under different foreign kingdoms for thousands of years, Sorbians in Germany spoke Sorbian and so on. It was either living in complete isolation or one culture replacing the other, like Germans did in Germany with the Celts, Franks and Burgundians did with the Gauls and Romans did with the Etrurians

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>>82926006
> Spouts retarded shit
> "No, you're retarded"
> Haha gotchu guis

>>82926070
That's not how the sexes work you mongoloid. The overwhelming majority of differences are caused by sex-limited and sex-influenced genes that both sexes carry, that are either turned off in one sex, or work differently in either sex. That's not what genetic variance is.

>>82926182
You're using one right now dumbass

>>82925508
is there any amount of evidence I could throw at you to convince that your wrong?

or is this just b8?

>>82926173
I also said that Anatolians were never European (except for the Greeks living in Lydia and Pontus city states), even before the Turkic conquest

>>82926181
Except that's different clearly, and they would be white.

>>82926162
they were mostly native cause the invasion was military and not demograpicm the ones that were real moors were expelled
there's almost no genetic difference between iberians and modern spain
it is now because we now have pakis, chinks, moors, latinos and the rest wich were never here before with that much percentage

>>82926075
>he thinks the Moors were black
What's it like being an uneducated American?

>>82926160
>>I want all the benefits of globalism without actually having to interact with people from other cultures
you have a factory of a japanese brand and drink german beer, now open the door to congolese because globalism
yeah no

>>82924822
This nigger is right, though. He can easily find a way to define you as racist. And you ARE always gonna be racist. The only way to stop this bullshit is to just ignore it. Racist? Ok, so what? Fuck off libtard.

>>82926044
> You are able to spot the differences in Y-chromosome alleles without modern science? Teach me

Relativism joins the charge! It doesn't matter whether those people could measure it, you fuckbucket. They were still different haplogroups. We've measured it today.

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>>82926111
>>82924996

again, audiences 400 years ago could buy that a black muslim was an venetian military general
but you can't suspend your disbelief that a black guy is a librarian, in a film in which a werewolf dances with a teapot or some shit

how can I be my father's son if genetics are not real?
got you razists

>>82926160

>The genetic differences between men and women are considerably greater than those between two man of different "races"

So what? I'll happily acknowledge that there are large genetic differences between men and women, but that doesn't mean that the differences between races aren't significant. That's a complete non sequitur.

>(which is not a genetic classification anyways)

Because your purely emotional aesthetic view, which is the view shared by mainstream media, won't allow it to be one.

>Humans also have remarkable genetic similarity compared to other animals.

I guess we'll just take your word for that one, or are you going to link us some study comparing it to one other arbitrarily selected species? :^)

>>82926100
> Can't read properly

Go back and you'll find that I never implied Normandy was France, but that the founders of Normandy were of a different culture than the French before acclimatizing.

>>82926124
>>82925992
That's an argument of a low-IQ subhuman.

The beast and talking furniture are caused by a magical curse. The existence of blacks is not explained in any way.

>>82926247
But haplogroups defining race is a modern invention, how would Celts, Angles and Normans be able to differentiate themselves based on that? It's not relativism, the argument was that these people somehow had conscience of being a different race, despite having a similar phenotype. The ancients distinguished race only based on that, because they had no other element to differentiate

>>82926201
The internet was made possible because of globalism? Do tell me how that's the case.

>>82926275
>I'll happily acknowledge that there are large genetic differences between men and women, but that doesn't mean that the differences between races aren't significant.
It does when you can't identity any specific genes that are responsible for anything other than superficial differences

>>82926201
>hurr durr you can't have the internet without cultural and ethnic suicide

>>82926233
>he thinks that the title moor wasn't used to refer interchangeably for arab muslims, african muslims, european muslims and even sri lankan and bengali muslims, and has for some reason chosen to ignore the fact that character of othello is canonically black
a) even if othello wasn't canonically black, which he is, the point still stands
b) you're a retard
c) i'm not american

a husky has more in common with a doberman if they are both males cause they have dicks that with their respecive females
is this going to be the new norm in liberal race theory? that females are a separated people because pussy?
that if an african couple produces a girl and a boy, somehow the boy is more similar with a white boy from europe than with their sister cause she has a different genitalia?

>>82926296
>The existence of blacks is not explained in any way.
it's almost like you've never read a book

>>82924884
WE

>>82926297
halogups race or ethnicites are just ways to separate people that can be separated
your problem with this is not that's not real but that it puts in danger your idea of a one world goberment

>>82925105
>Kafka trapping

>>82926251
It's got nothing to do with suspending our disbelief, there are historical inaccuracies in all period pieces - it's about the blatant regressive marxist propaganda being shoehorned into places it shouldn't be. The Enemy doesn't shut it's cunt mouth when a tale about Middle Earth is monoracial, so why the fuck should we? Only a cuck would have a problem with it.

>>82926296
>The existence of blacks is not explained in any way
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.

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>>82926297
But they WERE different genetic groups, you mongoloid. Whatever they thought of themselves is a very poor argument to defend the idea of "hurr durr muh European genetic race"

>>82926281
>Go back and you'll find that I never implied Normandy was France, but that the founders of Normandy were of a different culture than the French before acclimatizing.
Which translates to multiculturalism... how?

>>82926275
>Because your purely emotional aesthetic view, which is the view shared by mainstream media, won't allow it to be one.
You mean the majority consensus in relevant fields (genetics, anthropology etc...)? Even most of the scholars that do believe that race is a legitimate classification do not believe that it has anything to do with how it is used colloquially. Sorry, but yours is the view that is not fact-based

>>82926296
it doesn't need to be. over the last 5+ centuries of art, literature and entertainment, it has never needed to be explained.

>>82926305
Yet modern medicine can literally genetically tailor medicine to specific races, and it's well known that certain diseases or autoimmune responses occur with significantly higher frequency in some races than in others. Look at the prevalence of sickle cell anemia and lactose intolerance as examples. That's not even getting into the massive IQ disparities that exist between races, or the disparity in performance in various physical activities.

>>82926297
>ld Celts, Angles and Normans be able to differentiate themselves based on that?
they diferientate themselves becuse they had different cultures and languages that develop because... hang on... they were SEPARATED and now we can search that difference also with halogrups and not just language or culture

>>82926405
> Two different cultures coexisting within one state, albeit before splitting into different states

Gee I wonder.

>>82926384
>blatant regressive marxist propaganda
i hope every time you see jesus cast as a white man you believe it's blatant regressive fascist propaganda. both points of view are equally retarded but at least you'd be consistent

>>82926415
And yet you can't isolate any genetic factors that are responsible for those differences. Funny

>muh sickle cell
It's like a /pol/ broken record

>>82924779
To normalize it in order to rewrite history as if the modern mess of multiculturalism has always been true and not a recent phenomenon

If you expose stupid people to it enough they'll think it's true, and forever overwrite the idea of France as a French country

>>82926449
is this b8?

>>82926384
>The Enemy doesn't shut it's cunt mouth
who is this person talking so loudly at you all the time and you can't escape somehow? do you have schizophrenia? do you live in some sort of hilariously contrived sitcom where it's one MGTOW living in a house with 9 radical feminists? if you shut the laptop for more than half an hour i hope you'll realise this is in your fucking head, mate

>>82926444
not the same because jesus have been part of european history for 2000 years and he's a universal being, meaning he's a spirit, son of god

I can't wait until the end of the white race

>>82926384
> Marxist propaganda

I too enjoyed the part of Capital where Marx suggests all white women be bred by black people and subjected to le sharia! xDDD

>for millenias people have invaded each other and entire populations have been replaced so now it's stupid to protect your borders, culture and people
ladies and gentleman, I present you the progresive mind

>>82926476
the kind of conspiracy this post implies is beyond reason. it's sad really, you're like bobby fischer

just a lost brain

>>82925508
>There is no difference between races genetically
A man and woman of the same race are closet genetically than 2 men or 2 women of different races. Considering all the major differences between men and women, how would you explain this?

>>82926519
he didn't want borders so that's implied

>>82926439
An indigenous population with foreign nobility is not multiculturalism you fucking idiot.

>>82926389
Classic lovecraft.
Niggers are a cosmic horror.

>>82926444
Why would I care about that? It doesn't negatively effect me or my people.

Whoa! Slow down Maurice. . .

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we're in modern times
quit carin bout the skin colors
we live in a global world

>>82926489
>son of god
yeah, the middle-eastern son of god. jesus was real, and no-one historically commented about how weird it was that mary and joseph had a really white-looking kid, it's just historical accuracy.

>not the same because jesus have been part of european history for 2000 years
don't see how this translates to "so it makes sense he's always cast as a white guy"

your argument is poor here

>>82926449
Well, let's take the most important one as an example: IQ. IQ, specifically generalised intelligence known as "g", is the best predictor of success in terms of educational, financial and career attainment that we have in all of the social sciences.
You can isolate socioeconomic factors related to IQ, which has been done in several studies. If you've eliminated socioeconomic causes, guess what's left.
The biochemistry of the brain is a complicated thing that we don't fully understand yet; there are lots of things that we don't quite understand about it. The specific gene(s) that govern IQ haven't been uncovered yet, but the heritability of IQ is beyond being well-established by people like the Harvard professors Charles Murray and Richard Hernstein, but the truth of that is to uncomfortable for the mainstream media.

>>82926389
>>82926568
fucking kek

I had to google it to check

>>82926556
> French nobility was foreign

???

>>82926484
Because if I can't hear it it's not there? Is this why the world confuses you so much, because your autistic mind interprets everything literally?

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>>82926614
French nobility came from Egypt who were black

>>82926614
>he doesn't know that the Norman (Norsemen) ruling class was Scandinavian

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>>82926657
Haha alright man you win

>>82926670

I thought Normandy was a separate state from France? You're tripping over your shoelaces, buddy.

>>82926580
ok so let me get this straight:

this film having a black librarian in the 18th century is marxist propaganda, even though othello was written in 1600, with a virtuous black muslim military commander in venice, surely that can't be marxist propaganda too? marx wasn't even born then! idk maybe he went back in time and make shakespeare into an SJW

>>82926359
WUZ

>>82926685
It doesn't matter.
Only the present matters.
Why can't we re-write history if it makes the current world better?
its time to move forward

>>82926624
i was just trying to tell you to maybe take all this a bit less seriously, but your autistic mind seems to have interpreted my obviously sarcastic post literally

>>82926077
I literally said they have slight genetic differences in my post. That doesn't mean race is 100% biological though. It is a construct that contains some biological implications and some social as well.

>>82925997
That was before everyone was raped by arabs. Back then Syrians were basically Greeks, they were East Orthodox already and had been for a thousand years at that point.

Cuck

>>82926727
>makes the current world better?
>blacks
What did he mean by this?

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>>82926727
>It doesn't matter.
>Only the present matters.
>Why can't we re-write history if it makes the current world better?
>its time to move forward

>forgetting about the 6 million

O U T R A G E
U
T
R
A
G
E

>>82926893
oh yeah im sure they were white as the driven snow over there

give me a break the mental gymnastics required to say it's marxist propaganda when a librarian is cast as a black person but totally a-ok not a problem when jesus christ is cast as a white person is off the charts
the thing is, i dont care when they cast white knights or white jesus
but then again i'm not saying it's the end of society as we know it because they put some black people in a movie
it's called having a rational, consistent opinion

>>82926967
no one said forgetting the 11 million is a good thing.
its important we remember that people like Hitler did so that european nationalists can never take over again

>>82927029
>11 million

Pretty sure it's 14 million anon

>>82926610
>to uncomfortable
if you post the word iq this many times in one go, you should come correct

>You can isolate socioeconomic factors related to IQ, which has been done in several studies. If you've eliminated socioeconomic causes, guess what's left.

>doesn't talk about the drastically reduced difference when you account for said socioeconomic factors
eh no-one ever does.

>guess what's left.
cultural factors? like how indian parents give their kids shit tons of extra homework they buy online
oh you meant the teeny tiny remaining difference as yet unexplained, which we chalk up to race
fair enough, but if i see that fucking chart where they say the average iq of one of those african countries is 56 i'm going to flip my shit

how is it so easy for people to believe that an entire country of humans is, on average, a full 14 points dumber than a gorilla. these people get dressed, they can form grammar, it doesn't make any fucking sense at all.

>>82926696
It is. I haven't said anything that contradicts that.

>>82926699
>if a nigger in modern cinema is there for propaganda then a nigger in classical literature must have been there for propaganda too

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Man I wonder who let all these kids on, you little fucks should be studying or killing yourselves.

>>82926893
>That was before everyone was raped by arabs

THEY WUZ WHITE N SHIT YOU KEK

>>82926071
I know, and the Jewish identity goes back two thousand years!

When will these goys learn?

>>82927250
what's more likely though, that this is just a film that happens to have black people in it because black people appear in films,

or that it's a marxist conspiracy that goes right to the top, where a shadowy cabal in the entertainment industry have started pulling the strings and ordering casting directors to cast extra black people to lie to the people about how many black people were in 18th century france in order to trick the american people into thinking that france was always multicultural so that the french dont notice when they get more muslims to come in so that they can do some kind of muslim magic and enslave the white race

i'm just saying it's a pretty tall order. the funny thing about the above scenario is that people like Dumas, and fields like History, show that France really did have black people in it!

How have you decided that this is modern SJW propaganda so quickly, when people have been writing black people and muslims into starring roles for literally over 4 centuries?

it doesn't make any sense
you're just a fucking loon

>>82927449
>how have you decided that this is modern SJW propaganda so quickly

Not the guy you're arguing with, but come on. You know exactly why. Hollywood is now riddled with this shit and you know it.

>>82927449
>France really did have black people in it!
not as many fool

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>mfw I see an anti-semite fool
pol was a mistake

>>82927449
>or that it's a marxist conspiracy that goes right to the top, where a shadowy cabal in the entertainment industry have started pulling the strings and ordering casting directors to cast extra black people to lie to the people about how many black people were in 18th century france in order to trick the american people into thinking that france was always multicultural so that the french dont notice when they get more muslims to come in so that they can do some kind of muslim magic and enslave the white race
you know that blacks will be half the world by 2100 right?

>>82927570
>pol was a mistake
oy vey shut it down

>>82927040
it was 30 million, goy

>>82927580
Yeah, and?

None of them will be in Israel so who cares lol.

>>82924779
>Would it be so bad if some fairy tale set in the past doesn't have diversity?
Why is it so bad that it does?

>>82927560
again, i hope you apply this level of scrutiny any time you see a painting or film with a white jesus in it but somehow i doubt it.

>>82927531
but that's all it takes? just a couple of black people and your back instantly goes up? in this case it has literally been happening for hundreds of years. you can with confidence immediately go to "SJW propaganda!!!"

why can't we have some black people in the films? who cares? historical accuracy goes out the window when it's a white jesus, and here, even with Dumas, in real life, being about a third-black writer and living around 50 years after this, with black people fighting for napoleon in real life, you still can't buy a black librarian and a couple of his black buddies running around in rural france?

and i'm expected to believe none of this is anything to do with you lot simply not liking black people.

>>82927828
>again, i hope you apply this level of scrutiny any time you see a painting or film with a white jesus in it but somehow i doubt it.
i don't because there's a reason for that
for 2 millenias jesus was part of europe
every town produced paintings and statues of jesus on their own image because he was the saviour of all
this has nothing to do with making nord gods black now
nordic gods are not part of black culture
they just put them because political correcteners and to adapt future viewers
>>82927764
that companies and nations are changing nations to adapt the new populations

>>82926893
have you seen greeks?
poor hairy brown pieces of shit
I'm not a racist, but they are basically niggers and I fucking hate them.

>>82927828
>and i'm expected to believe none of this is anything to do with you lot simply not liking black people.
no because it would be the same with other races

>>82926151
>Le current year
>believing the Nationalist meme
French nationalism was originally based around the Francien language and the values of the Illustration Elites, which are the values of the burgeoisie of Paris and the surrounding regions of the Îlle de France of late 18th century. French elites have been building it and modeling it since then, but most of the countrymen of Western and Southern France didn't speak any other language than their own until late 19th century; be it Gascon, Occitan, Breton or Provençal, which as today are held by most scholars as being languages on their own, and not dialects of the French language, as it was traditionally said. The change came with compulsory schools and military service, where education in french (i.e. the Francien language) and indoctrination in the values of the Nation where mandatory. And they succeeded.

Same goes for Spain, which being the failed state it was during the 19th and early 20th, did a poor job at it and as of today 7 out of the 17 autonomous regions have nationalist movements of their own, 2 of them being full-blown separatists. And this I know very well because I'm an Spaniard myself.

I can't tell you that much about Germany, but they are a special case, having a strongly federal adminstration and not a centralized one like France or Italy. Spain, as always, does its own thing, and a bad job at it.

>>82927665
The lastest estimations are around 50 million tho

>>82927901
>i don't because there's a reason for that
>every town produced paintings and statues of jesus on their own image because he was the saviour of all
so it's because jesus meant something to everyone, that's why it's OK to forget the historical accuracy here?

so which is it, does historical accuracy matter for a fairy tale or not? if it doesn't matter in the story of the bible, why is it so important in a fucking kids film

>>82927919
Like Japan or other racially homogenous countries.
Nobodies asking Japan to be less Japanese, or China to be less Chinese.
Yet all the third worlders can flood white first world and rip it apart from the inside out, and you have to be politically correct about these issues or you're ostracized from the public, friend and family, being deemed a racist xenophobe because you don't want to become a minority in your country that was historically a place for whites to take refuge from tyranny.

>>82927983
Damn, I'm behind on my monthly holocaust revision.

>>82928032

there is an official equation but it's proprietary and an industry secret.

Why the fuck do they keep making movies based on European history and folklore if they want to cast diversely? That's what I don't get. Instead of creating new mythos and characters for black actors to play they just keep shoehorning them into white stories and roles.

>>82928016
>Nobodies asking Japan to be less Japanese, or China to be less Chinese.
nobody's asking you to be less of whatever the fuck you are either. unless you mean less racist, in which case people ARE asking japan and china to be less racist. the left is all over that already.

> you have to be politically correct about these issues or you're ostracized from the public, friend and family, being deemed a racist xenophobe
except people like katie hopkins, piers morgan, the entire cast of fox news, murdoch, breitbart and tons of others have amazing success and a huge following doing the exact opposite of what you said here. the fact you can be successful and make a living by not being politically correct kind of disproves your point

>>82924847
>lack of authenticity in fairy tales

Just let that sink in

>>82928098
you could say the exact opposite of this and be correct though:

re: la la land -- why when the film borrows so heavily from jazz and black culture are black characters so absent from the movie?

see when I say that it sounds like SJW propaganda, but it's just the same point you're making.

>>82928185
La La Land is set in Los Angeles, not Africa, so no, you don't have a point.

>>82928305
the guy is a jazz fanatic
he opens a jazz bar
he plays jazz piano
with a jazz band
do you really not see what i'm getting at?
do you really know this little about the history of america?
are you really this braindead?
it's the exact same point

in fact you fucking fat stormfront fucks whine worse than SJWs

if SJWs see two or three white people in a movie, it's just a movie.

if you see two or three black people in a movie, regardless of historical accuracy which i've already talked about a fuckton in this thread, you go fucking nuts, as evidenced by this thread.

>>82928157
Mythos is a huge part of cultural identity, friend.

>>82928305
Jazz was invented in america you absolute fucking retard

>>82928390
which is why no-one should ever, ever paint, depict or cast jesus as a white man. it's important our cultural mythos is authentic.

right?

>>82928450
Creation =/ subversion

>>82925254
But Beauty and the Beast was set in *rural* France.

>>82928493
not an argument

>>82924779
Fiction always reflect the societies that produce them, not the ones they portray

>>82926598
You're right

>open borders for Israel

>>82928388
White people live in LA. White people listen to jazz. White people play jazz music. What's your fucking point? Is white people listening to jazz really more of a stretch to you than black people living in a tiny village in France in the fucking 18th century?

>>82928135
>Nobody is asking you o be less of whatever the fuck you are
What kind of bubble do you live in?
People ARE calling for the genocide of white people. What about illegal aliens in America? What about the fact that Whites are becoming a minority in their own countries? Nobody is asking lol. That's right, they're fucking forcing it on people. You think they asked if people wanted the Hart-Cellar act? You think they asked if you want people being forced into white neighborhoods via HUD? Forced diversification, and there is no "opting out". If you are Japanese, you can go to Japan. And so on for other races that have racially hemogonous home countries to go back to. Where do whites go if they want to opt out of "diversity"?

>>82924822
I'm not racist, but... let's force out the white people.

>>82924779
>"long ago in the heart of france"
>everyone speaks english
>there is no disease
>everyone is good looking
>A scottish man is a french candle
>a literate woman is not burned at the stake

>>82928016
people are waking up
we will fight back once shit hits the fan
>>82927987
yes

>>82928525
no blacks there in middle ages or illustration

>>82928564
It is an argument. There are dozens of variants of Christianity, each its own entity with different interpretations and emphasises, each its own creation.

This isn't a new creation, but a subversion of an old one. You can hit all the keynotes of Beowulf and make every character black and it'll be a new creation which leans on old archetypes, but once you call it Beowulf you're subverting its tradition.

>>82928135
>two people
>"entire cast of fox news"
That is just incorrect, even if it was. ONE Organization compared to how many there are? CNN, MSNBC, Etc?
>Breitbart
lol
Yeah dude, this accurately represents the majority of people in America. You are fucking brilliant.

>>82928388
>if you see two or three black people in a movie, regardless of historical accuracy which i've already talked about a fuckton in this thread, you go fucking nuts, as evidenced by this thread.
Isn't this thread about historical inaccuracies though? What do you mean by your last part? Sounds like you have a /pol/ boogeystrawman in your head that you like to light on fire and make yourself feel better about being a virtuous human being.
Hey guys, i really don't like /pol/ and racists! I'm a good person! Please believe me!

>>82926970
go learn about levantine ethnography you fucking idiot

coastal levantines are NOT arab, they're swarthy greek types, descendants of phoenecians.

This is a retarded discussion.

>>82928612

>What's your fucking point?

Your point was
>Why the fuck do they keep making movies based on European history and folklore if they want to cast diversely? Instead of creating new mythos and characters for black actors to play [...]

Almost every great jazz musician throughout american history has been black. jazz clubs meant black clubs. in an accurate film about a guy wanting to open a jazz club (that literally serves fried chicken), there would probably be a black character involved somewhere in the film.

the setup for that film sounds like a great new character for a black actor to play! but they cast a white guy. which is fine! it's absolutely fine by me. but don't bitch and moan when black background actors start turning up elsewhere

>Is white people listening to jazz really more of a stretch to you than black people living in a tiny village in France in the fucking 18th century?

this isn't the point and you know it. firstly, as has been proven many, many times in this thread, black people's history in 18th and early 19th century france is actually very well documented.

but as you know, my point is that by whining about a few black people showing up in this film, you're as bad as the people whining that there weren't enough black people in la la land.

"oh no! there's not enough white people in this film that is almost entirely white people! this is an outrage! ooooh no white genocide is coming, there's not enough white people in this movie i thought it would be nice and white, and i hadn't yet looked up whether i can complain about historical inaccuracy without being historically inaccurate myself! oh woe is me"

>>82928627
>Where do whites go if they want to opt out of "diversity"?
the deep south, or, portland, ironically

>>82928741
>Yeah dude, this accurately represents the majority of people in America
where did i say that? i was told that anyone who uttered a word against political correctness was torn away from their loved ones by the PC police. Where did anyone say "majority of people"? I was just showing that saying "oh say one word not PC and you'll be dragged off to the SJW gulag" is just hysterical whinging.

>>82924968
There's like maybe 5 black people

>>82929053
>I was just showing that saying "oh say one word not PC and you'll be dragged off to the SJW gulag" is just hysterical whinging.
Where did I say that?

black people were the first people in europe. and all white people are part black anyway as we are all from africa, but obviously this does not mean you can say nigger if you are white because you are not black, though this does not mean that you evolved since out of africa because humans haven't evolved since the 1990s or something.

>>82929053
I spoke things that weren't PC on facebook and was ostracized.

>>82929053
I said "What's the deal with black people? They aren't black, and they aren't people"
I'm sitting in an SJW Gulag right now.

>>82924779
>they removed the Cogsworth Napoleon Banister scene

Piece of shit film.

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>>82928657
>why is it so important in a fucking kids film?
>yes
ok

>>82928696
> each its own entity with different interpretations and emphasises, each its own creation.
and yet, in each of them, an inevitably middle-eastern jesus.

you can paint everyone in the last supper white but as soon as you call it the last supper you're "subverting its tradition"

now that's dumb, but you understand what i'm saying you just choose to ignore it. you choose to ignore that racial historical inaccuracy is of no consequence in the story of jesus but of vital importance in a kids film. no matter how you slice the semantics here you look like an idiot

>>82928790
yeah cos pic related defo looks like a swarthy greek

>>82929103
recent quotes in this thread about BEAUTY AND THE BEAST i've replied to:

>People ARE calling for the genocide of white people.

> you're ostracized from the public, friend and family, being deemed a racist xenophobe because you don't want to become a minority in your country

sorry if i turned "ostracized from the public, friend and family"
into "dragged off to the SJW gulag". neither of these things are real.

>>82924822

Cultures should be allowed to celebrate themselves with accuracy and authenticity. There should not be an expectation on people to satisfy diversity quotas for its own sake. If a director wants to make a diverse film that celebrates diversity in a meaningful way they should do so. Stamping a check list of races, sexual orientations, and other such arbitrations onto media is as disengenuous as it is distracting. People cast for these roles are not cast because they hope to portray the meaningful and individual experiences of people that fall within those categories but instead are cast simply because they do. There is this recent belief that casting people for the sole purpose of representation is anything but racism when that is exactly what it is.

We can dance and pretend in film that we are all a diverse nation that gets along, but walk into any college, any high school, and you will find black kids sitting with black kids, white kids with white kids, latinos with latinos, Indians with Indians, Koreans with Koreans. We all may work and learn in the same places, but at the end of the day we'll go back to our all white neighborhood, or china town, or our all black neighborhood. Nothing in these films is a realistic look at the dynamics of diversity. It is not meaningful in its own right. It is shoe horning. Simple smoke and mirrors to mask the utter contempt they hold for actually discussing the human condition. It says to us that people are not meaningful individuals at all -- they are not valued for who they are, but rather what they are. It is marketing, and satisfaction of the norm that strips all power from character.

There have been diverse historical settings, but we do not see movies set in these periods because we would rather rehash the tried and true story that will bring in crowds with a diverse cast peppered in to satisfy a broader market. As we all sit here obsessed with a flood of empty human moralism masquerading as virtue.

>>82929283
>you choose to ignore that racial historical inaccuracy is of no consequence in the story of jesus but of vital importance in a kids film

i meant:

you choose to ignore that i'm making fun of how, to you, racial historical inaccuracy is of no consequence in the story of jesus but of vital importance in a fucking disney kids film

>>82924779
There were blacks in 18th century France. Not that many but they were there.

>>82929283
>82929103(you)
>rececnt quotes in this thead
>People are calling for the genocide of white people
This is true.
>you're ostracized from the public, friend, etc.
Well it happened to me, how is it not real?
If you're going to play the "I didn't say that" game, don't put quotes on things that weren't quotes that you intentionally manipulated into an intellectually dishonest argument.

>>82929375
>Well it happened to me, how is it not real?
at this point you are literally complaining to me that actions have consequences. You've chosen an interesting use of the term "ostracised" here though.

If you are ostracised from your family, that's either because of you, or your family. nobody has come in and separated you from your family. again, you are literally complaining, on an internet message board, that actions have consequences. this is just a law of nature. i'm sorry, there's nothing anyone can do about it. sometimes, when you do or say things, other things happen that may be out of your control.

>don't put quotes on things that weren't quotes that you intentionally manipulated into an intellectually dishonest argument.
I don't deserve that really, it was pretty obvious i was exaggerating for comic effect. this was obvious because i included the actual quote two sentences prior.

>People are calling for the genocide of white people
>This is true.
it's not whether it's true, it's a question of why I'm seeing this post on a thread about a film where the werewolf dances with the teapot. again, you people are hysterical. we can't get through a thread about a disney film without someone shouting about white genocide. it's fucking tiring

>>82929533
Sorry you're so triggered by low tier /pol/ bait threads, but this is a thread about historical inaccuracies isn't it?
Maybe read the OP again. You're seeing the posts because that's how discussions usually branch out into other topics.
You can always hide threads though if it's that bothering to you.

>>82929603
we solved the historical accuracies thing about halfway down the thread when people started talking about white jesus, othello, and dumas though.

yeah ok brief summarized thread recap:

"hey there weren't any black people in 18th century france"

"yes there were"

"ok well, not that many"

"wow if you're care so much about the percentage ratio of minorities in rural france in the 18th century, you must be really upset whenever they cast jesus as a white guy"

"no because this is SJW propaganda!"

"but people have written black characters in even more unrealistic, central roles for hundreds of years, this isn't necess-"

"WHITE GENOCIDE WHITE GENOCIDE"

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>>82926181
>Imagine the utter horrrror of an Asian being cast as the wrong race
Oh, I do shudder to think.

Who cares we will start exterminating every nigger we can find pretty soon anyways. If you want to talk to me I will be in jail somewhere, frothing at the mouth.

>>82924779
White people can't even get represented properly anymore, they always have to shoehorn blacks in everything. If they really wanna be fair with their forced diversity there better be fucking Filipinos in the Mulan remake, or a tiger in the Lion King remake.

>>82925105
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>>82930259
there was enough black people in france at the time that one of them was a general in Napoleon's army so i wouldn't exactly call it shoehorning.

>there better be fucking Filipinos in the Mulan remake
but Mulan is quintessentially about China, defending China, the Chinese army, and one woman's journey in the army in a heavily segregrated Chinese society. That wouldn't make sense.

> tiger in the Lion King remake.
wat