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I consider myself to be a progressive and to be pro-gay rights.

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I consider myself to be a progressive and to be pro-gay rights. I have no problems with more homosexual characters on tv and film. But holy shit that scene was probably one of the most disgusting things I've seen right next to the gay sex and orgy from Sense8. I've seen rape scenes, characters gets heavily mutilated, children getting killed on screen but none of that bugged me as much as that gay scene in American Gods. I legit understand what causes homophobia now. I know it's wrong to be disgusted by this but I can't stop myself from being grossed out.
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You had a boner, didn't you OP?
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>>82817154
>I legit understand what causes homophobia now. I know it's wrong to be disgusted by this but I can't stop myself from being grossed out.

You finding the way someone has sex to be gross doesn't exactly justify treating them like shit.
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>>82817182
No, did you?
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>>82817208
>spotted the fag
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>>82817208
I know, gay sex isn't inherently immoral and nobody should be punished for it but now I understand where older and more conservative people are coming from when they say that it's unnatural.
>>82817228
That anon's not wrong about not treating people like shit because of their sexual orientation though.
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>>82817272
>gay sex isn't inherently immoral
based on what standard?
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>>82817470
I don't know, maybe by the fact that there's nothing harmful about two consenting adults choosing to have sex with each other regardless of their gender.
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>>82817272
You realize that conservatives don't hate gays because they watched gay porn, right?
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>>82817563
so incest is not immoral?
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>>82817154
I watched this scene because /tv/ kept bitching about it and it was honestly just kinda silly. Not to mention that it's a really poor representation of gay sex. What the fuck was the bottom even doing? That ain't how it works
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>>82817788
Honestly, incest isn't really a problem unless the incestuous couple starts reproducing.
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>>82817899
and even then, only close family ties. Cousins are usually fine, and second cousins might as well be not family at all in the sense of reproducing.
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>>82817154
>But holy shit that scene was probably one of the most disgusting things I've seen right next to the gay sex and orgy from Sense8. I've seen rape scenes, characters gets heavily mutilated, children getting killed on screen but none of that bugged me as much as that gay scene in American Gods.
I didn't particularly care for it but what about it did you find particularly more disgusting than literal rape/character mutilation/child death?
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>>82817899
>>82817936
very well, I take note that for you there is nothing wrong in mom/son dad/daughter incest as long as they use condoms
I have nothing to add, be proud of yourself
bye
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>>82818011
Homosexuality is an immutable orientation, whereas incest is not.
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>>82818011
kek and liberals are surprised when conservatives consider them degenerate beasts
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>I consider myself to be a progressive and to be pro-gay rights
>Honestly, incest isn't really a problem unless the incestuous couple starts reproducing.
2017 ladies and gentlemen
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>>82817154
>muh moral panic

Nigga, why do you care? Do you suck cock yourself so you're afraid it misrepresented you or something? People can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't harm anyone else.
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>>82817154
>thinking progressive means you should be pro-gay
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>>82818081
the slippery slope is real
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>>82817272

especially when they're volunteering to remove themselves from the gene-pool, they should be considered heroes.
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>>82818116
Lel who would have thought the slippery slope argument wasnt a crock of shit
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>>82817899
>Honestly, incest isn't really a problem unless the incestuous couple starts reproducing.
you mom must be proud of you, so progressive!
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>>82818081
Can you explain why incest is wrong outside of obvious stuff like rape and sexual grooming?
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>>82817154
I have nothing against gays and fully support gay rights and all that. But its just sort of an intrinsic reaction for me when seeing explicit gay shit, it just grosses me out. I just don't want to see it, they can buttfuck each other as much as they like in private.
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>>82818116
Dude chill, I doubt incest will ever be accepted, plus it's rare. The average joe or jane isn't attracted to their sibling. Plus if you ever met an incestuous couple. What are you going to do? Are you going to interrupt them during sex.
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>>82817154
>one explicit hetero sex scene
>one explicit fag sex scene
Now I wonder if we will get explicit lesbian sex scene, or they are only progressive when they should bandering landwhales who masturbate for BL shit.
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>>82817899
>Honestly, incest isn't really a problem unless the incestuous couple starts reproducing.
Liberals. This is what they consider progress.
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>>82817877
>What the fuck was the bottom even doing? That ain't how it works
How it works?
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>>82818203
>liberal progress
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>>82818044
That's BS made up by the gay lobby. It's a spectrum that is reinforced by choices people make. Every gay guy I know has had sex with at least one woman.
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>>82817154
How gross is it? I'm only up to episode 2, and I was already shocked to see an erect penis.
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>>82818240
So if gay is a choice then they're not a protected class and nobody is born gay.
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>>82818164
I'll tell you what she really is proud of ;)
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>>82818213
The way the bottom was arching his back in that scene would make it incredibly difficult for the top to penetrate him not to mention be very painful for the bottom. It's not really an accurate portrayal of gay sex. Not to mention the terrible blowjob the bottom gives.
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>>82818248
It's mostly gross because there's a hairy guy in it. You see their dicks a bit (but nothing stimulating the dicks during the shot).

The most graphic bit is you see CGI fire that's supposed to represent the jinns cum going inside the Twinks body. But the that entire bit is cgi anyways. Don't watch it with your family and you'll be fine unless you're super uncomfortable with homosexuality. Personally I just had it playing on one monitor while browsing /tv/ on my second monitor.

p.s. it's about a 1-2 minute long scene.
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AY YO, YA'LL NIGGA GOTTA KEEL DEM WHITE BOYS!
*Bryan Fuller jerks himself off over what a profound statement he's making*
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>>82817899
>Honestly, incest isn't really a problem unless the incestuous couple starts reproducing.
why liberals want to destroy our civilization so much?
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>>82817154
At least it was in the books. Unlike extended and meaningless Bilquis scenes and fucking homicidal Anansi.
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>>82818289
That's what i thought too. you can't lift your ass and not clench at the same time.
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>>82818166
There is no valid moral argument against incest between two consenting adults, assuming that no one else is harmed as a result, e.g. mutant offspring.

That said, it's a little harder to swallow, because as >>82818044 implies, if a gay person isn't allowed to be gay because someone else isn't cool with it, then they're denied any love/sex life at all. If a guy isn't allowed to fuck his sister because someone isn't cool with it, well he's got literally billions of other women out there he could fuck instead. So it's a little harder to argue in favor of incest.

But as a liberal, I don't think anyone, especially the government should be able to tell two consenting adults they can't do what they want, whether they're related or the same sex or whatever. You would think conservatives in favor of small government would think the same, but alas, they're hypocrites.
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>>82818222
Can they fucking hurry up then.
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>>82818166
People are not supposed to feel sexual attraction to their close relatives. Incest is always a result of something being very fucked up in family, like physical or emotional abuse.
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I was considering watching this show.

Not anymore.
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>>82818305
In the end it was just a ruse to the stupid niggers so he can eat their souls.
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>>82818327
If it was legal there'd be scores of mutant offspring.
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>>82818330
ARE YOU A FUCKING BIGOT? IT'S 2017
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>>82818317
It would look pretty weird even if it was a heterosexual couple. I really don't know why they filmed it that way.
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>>82818240
So would you argue those "pray the gay away" camps should theoretically work? Because it's been shown over and over that they don't.
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>>82817899
the sexual revolution went so wrong
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>>82818303
>because there's a hairy guy in it
oh no, not hairy guy in it. someone write a angry letter.
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>>82818351
Not the guy you're responding to but there's a difference between understanding that there's no moral argument against consensual incest among adults that makes sure a pregnancy never occurs and saying that it should be legal. One is a matter of ethics the other is a matter of pragmatism.
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>>82818330
Any sexual relationship that involves abuse is wrong. Remove that from the equation and there is nothing morally wrong with incest.
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>>82817154
Someone link the scene I want to see how bad it is
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>>82818305
Seriously, they can't show me any explicit gay sex which would make me more mad than the Anansi scene did.
He was the best character in the book, and here they just transformed him into a psycho who orders his followers to do jihad in the name of BLM.
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>>82817899
Genuine champions such as Germaine Greer fought for what eventually became this
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>>82818365
>>>/pol/
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>>82818376
I mean that's pretty much my reaction to this whole thing. The scene has a couple of dicks. I've seen more dicks on /tv/ in the past hour than I did in the show for that hour.
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>>82818414
I liked the scene by itself for precisely that reason. A jive-talkin' nigga getting slaves to an hero in the name of #BLM. But then in the behind the scenes clip at the end, Bryan Fuller starts going on about "It's such a powerful scene. We're talking about things that need to be talked out." I need to stop watching those.
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>>82818305
I've read both American gods and Anansi Boys recently, and boy did they butcher his character all right. He's not cruel or angry. He doesn't need bloody sacrifices.
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>>82818406
>there is nothing morally wrong with incest.
>liberals will become parents one day
>this is what they are going to teach to their sons
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>>82818414
Anansi did nothing. There's nothing wrong about slaves killing their masters. Get over it. It's like complaining about a jew killing a Nazi.
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>>82818405

The moral argument would be that the two people are wasting their time and should get to making actual children with healthy partners.
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please report any post against incest
keep /pol/ in fucking /pol/
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>>82818461
>Point out that sexually grooming children is morally wrong
>LIBERAL PARENTS ARE GOING TO FUCK THEIR KIDS!!!

Fucking read my posts my man.
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>>82818489
Nothing wrong with the scene until you realize that Bryan Fuller thinks the "message" of it somehow applies to real life today.
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>>82818490
With that logic any sexually active couple who aren't trying to procreate are morally in the wrong
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>something is moral as long it doesn't hurt anyone
of course fetuses are not "anyone", they are just pieces of shit, not beings
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>>82818498
>LIBERAL PARENTS ARE GOING TO FUCK THEIR KIDS!!!
where did I say that, my cuck?
I wrote that you are going to teach to your children that incest is not wrong
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>>82818490
>The moral argument would be that the two people are wasting their time

Is there a moral argument against me shitposting on /tv/ at 3:30 in the morning?
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>>82818489
There is two problem with it.
1. in the book he saved two children instead of sending his men to death
2. he is a trickster god whose legends are pass as bedtime stories for children, not a psycho who murders people
The creators of the show raped both his book and irl counterpart just to pass a forced BLM bullshit.
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>>82818413
why haven't you just saved the webm by this point literal faggot?
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>>82818560
If anything it's morally righteous since it means you aren't out spreading your obviously inferior genes.
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>>82817899
liberals are a cancer for society
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>>82818514
Yep. That's why we shame bachelors and women that never marry.

>>82818560
Yes. You will die eventually and let down everyone before you that did bother to reproduce. jerk, they sacrificed for you.
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>>82818596
So what's the moral problem if a /tv/ lurker banged their 4/10 shut in sister if they're both adults?
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>>82817154
Watch Querelle bro
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>>82818489
>Rich White guy alters an authentic african god to force his sjw message
>there is nothing wrong with it
Well except showing a widely liked african god beloved by both blacks and whites for his cautionary tales as a white-hating jihadist.
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>>82818623
What if they're part of an open relationship while married to other people and they have kids with other people?

Then what's the problem?
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>tfw I don't care about social rights and this shit
>tfw I pretend to be super progressive and liberal just because women like that and I hope I can taste some pussy for once in my life
this thread gave me new ideas, I'll start defending incest to prove how progressive I am
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>>82818654
I know you're kidding, but the idea that liberals are a-ok with incest is /tv/ being irrational. Most people are instinctually grossed out by it.
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>>82818654
The whole incest thing is more of a matter of lacking a good philosophical argument against incest. Nobody is saying it'd be desirable to make it legal.
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>>82817208
>You finding the way someone has sex to be gross doesn't exactly justify treating them like shit.

Yeah but fuck necrophilia and zoophilia right?
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>>82818690
>I know you're kidding
I'm not
here (germany) 99% of women are ultra liberal, and the 1% sane in mind is already taken
pic related
I hate this country
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>>82818714
Zoophilia is obviously harmful to the animal though.
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>>82817154
Thanks for the warning OP, was gonna try this out. Fuck this garbage, isnt it written by a chick? Why the fuck would have have a gay sex scene like that. Not even six feet under did that shit .
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>>82818714
necrophilia doesn't harm anyone
nor does zoophilia unless there is human male/female animal penetration
>>>/pol/
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>>82818765
>Zoophilia is obviously harmful to the animal though.
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>>82818766
The book it's based on is written by a dude, Neil Gaimen.
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>>82818765
lol no?
how would oral sex harm an animal?
or letting a dog or hose fuck you

>>>/pol/
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>>82818690
>>82818695
Wait incest is illegal in US? What the fuck kind of regressive country is that? You shouldn't have children, sure, but you can adopt. What's the problem here?
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>>82818791
That's awesome but a full on gay sex scene is seriously unneccesary. Even normal ones break the flow of the show, but gay sex ones would be seriously disgusting to watch.
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>>82818802
unfortunately America is hostage of christian bigots my dude
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>>82818790
>>82818793
If the current legal definition of rape is sex without consent then yes, zoophilia is rape and thus morally wrong.
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>>82818593
not that guy, but this is the first thread I've seen about this
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>>82818833
Prove an animal can't consent to sex.
Because when a dog mounts and bangs a chick it seems like he's consenting
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>>82818765
>Zoophilia is obviously harmful to the animal though.

You cant use that shit, we cut open their throats and bleed them out and then eat their muscles and brains. We also sometimes eat animals while they are still alive.

Also dogs hump people all the time, that's basically them saying "yes" right?

Also animals never get pleasure from sex, except dolphins. So they will always seem to be harmed, but that doesn't stop from breeding animals.
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I just skipped around till the end of that unnecessary gay stuff. Why would I subject myself to watch this when I'm not attracted to it at all.
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>>82818871
Because a dog lacks the IQ to understand the concept of consent and thus can't. That's like saying if a child said yes to sex that counts as consent when we know they lack the mental wherewithal to properly process what is going in.
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>>82818831
Isn't incest all over the Bible? Why would they have a problem with it?
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>>82818871
Same thing can be said about kids.
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>>82818891
Kudos to you anon. More people should learn from your example.
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i watched the first episode of this and it was trash but i remember the gratuitous gay sex from the book i think
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>>82818914
Because the Bible often talks about how incest is a sin.
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>comparing gay sex to incest, zoophilia and such
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>>82818833
And meat is murder. Who gives a shit, it's a goddamn pig, stick a knife in his belly and eat it or fuck him up the ass, why would anyone care.
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>>82818937
Not really. It's sort of a case by case thing.
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I haven't seen it, where's the link?
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>>82818947
Generally speaking most civilized countries at least try to minimize the amount of harm caused to an animal before it's slaughtered for consumption
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>>82817208
Pedophiles get a pass too right? Die in a fire faggot.
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>>82818972
>minimize the amount of harm
That's bullshit, you probably saw that video where the grind chicks on an egg factory. If that's legal, how is it not legal to suck a pig dick?
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>>82818044
It's a mental disorder. Mental ill should not be allowed to marry or reproduce and spread their disease ( via third party )
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>>82819044
I said 'generally speaking', obviously a lot of immoral shit happens behind the scenes and as soon as it's discovered the authorities usually get involved.
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>>82818891
Tbh it caught me off guard, if there's another scene like that I'm doing the same.
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Dear Fullertards, don't find it strange that nobody complained about the Chernobod scene, which had the same message and also wasn't in the book but wasn't forced down to our throat and was mithologicaly correct as he was made the Satan allegory by christians only because his name meant "black god".
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>>82818765
Not always. A vet or farmer will shove his hand up a cow's vagina when she's giving birth, so do you really think a cow would be bothered by your tiny cock?
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I put the speed to 2x and I regret not going faster. There was really no point in the scene unless you want to watch two guys bang.
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>>82819104
Alright, let me ask you this. Would you rather be humanely killed by a stab in the neck or get your dick sucked? For you personally, which one would you prefer right now?
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Can anyone answer, please: Did the original novel (American Gods) have gay stuff in it? And if so, how much?
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>>82819184
That depends, are you offering to suck my dick yourself anon (●´ω`●)
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There is literally nothing wrong with having sex with corpses as long as the dead person signed a paper agreeing to it when he/she was still alive. The only reason it's illegal is because liberals only like "cute" perversions. Same reason pandas are being saved while some disgusting bugs are dying in a shithole somewhere and nobody cares about them.
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if you think it's immoral to let a dog fuck you in the ass you don't belong here
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>>82819219
Cute
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Incest, zoophilia and necrophilia should be legal in a society that isn't run be religious people. That's a FACT. If you're offended by it, you've been brainwashed by christcucks
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>>82819248
>necrophilia being banned literally everywhere is liberals' fault
you've gone too far this time /pol/
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>>82819283
If you prefer the one on the left, you don't belong here.
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>>82817154
From the thumbnail I thought it was Will Graham and Hannibal
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>>82819331
It's everyone's fault, but only liberals are pushing for sexual freedom. Why aren't they pushing for this? Because it's ICKY and because UGHHHH, that's why. No other reason
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>>82819340
What if I want the one on the left to be fucked by the one on the right
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>>82819310
this
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>>82819340
Left is a cute
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>>82817788
Between two willing adults? And without the intend of procreation?

It's perfectly moral.
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>>82819372
>not fucking a dog
Disgusting normie.
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>>82819391
FUCK DUMRUMPS AND FUCK WHITE PEOPEL
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>>82819340
why is best emma blonde?
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Let's be honest here, the only reason why polygamy is banned is because people used to be scared of messing up the concept of family. Now that this concept doesn't work anymore, it's fluid. There's absolutely no reason why polygamy would be illegal in a society where family isn't rigidly defined as a union between a man and a woman. Remind me again, why is it illegal? That's right, because of feminists.
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Someone post the webm, please
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>>82819310
How would you determine "consent" for animals? or when it becomes abuse?
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>>82819587
we eat and kill them in droves, might as well literally fuck them
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>>82819570
It's also because polygamy would be a bit of a legal clusterfuck. Divorce in a two person system is already legally confusing, especially if kids are involved. Imagine then if it was a divorce between multiple husbands and wives. It's legal laziness
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>>82817154
Yea. They should have given you a trigger warning.
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Someone post the video I can't find it
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>>82819570
Polygamy wouldn't be just poligyny in our society but also poliandry. Marriage would be meaningless (not that it's not almost meaningless by now with the whole gay marriage bullshit).
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>>82817208
Homophobia isn't treating them like shit. It's considered any vaguely negative opinion on gays now.
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>>82819213

Yes it did and pretty explicit
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>>82819570
post yfw a homosexual trio + one transgender is legally recognized as family and allowed to adopt a baby
I like the smell of bigots getting BTFO in the morning
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>>82819587
>How would you determine "consent" for animals?
Why would I? Do they ask for consent when they take a dog from the street and put in a cage? Do they ask for consent if nobody picks it up in a month and they kill it? Cause that's how animal shelters work. If that's legal, why isn't sucking a dog dick legal?
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>>82817154

I'm enjoying this because I know it's going to piss off Muslims and confuse liberals
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>>82819726
only if you are lucky to live in a secular country
in Europe, in religious countries life is hell for LGBTQI folks, just look at Italy
this is unacceptable
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>>82819738
Meanwhile, a single man can't adopt a baby because he's clearly an evil monster being a male and all that.
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>>82818771
>implying you'd treat a corpse fucker like anyone else

Bullshit
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>>82819587
it's not that you can force an animal to fuck you in the ass or lick you
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>>82819774
Even conservatives would probably be antsy about a single man adopting a baby.
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>>82819752
>>82819611
Yeah you guys are right, I guess the actual question if it would ever become animal abuse or how that would be determined.
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>>82819774
single male =/= family

>>82819775
societies change with times you know
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>>82819785
no but you can forcibly fuck an animal
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>>82819790
Forcing your dick into an animal's orifices seems like an obvious case of abuse
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>>82819031
that's different because children can't competently consent to sex
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>>82819769
Based Russia.
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>>82819800
You're defending necrophilia now. So would you treat a open corpse fucker the same as others? Would you trust them with kids?
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>>82819819
they literally have concentration camps for gay people in chechnya, you don't unironically support that do you?
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>>82819787
>>82819800
>single male =/= family
And yet two men are somehow a family? Nah. Also, bear in mind that single women can adopt. Even though women are pretty much just as likely to be pedos as men.
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>>82819868
They literally don't, enjoy your fake news. And be careful going against Chechnya, it is Muslim you know. Don't offend those Muslims.
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>>82818240
Anyone who believes being gay is a choice must be closeted themselves, because to a heterosexual person, guy sex is physically repulsive. There's no way anyone who wasn't inherently wired up that way would make that choice, and if you don't understand that then there's no way you're hetero.
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>>82819870
At least with two men you could have one stay home and care for the child while the other works and makes money. It's basically the same formula as a hetero family.
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>>82817154
Gay stuff aside. It is a really cool sweater.
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>watching a show made by brian "homolust" fuller and expecting anything else
Nobody in their right mind could read Red Dragon and then think Graham and Lecter had sexual tension between them before.
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>>82819808
sure
but how letting an animal fuck you or lick you would be immoral?
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>>82819858
tastes are tastes, we should not judge people because of them
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>>82819920
Grandpa, it's 2017, you don't have to leave house to work. I'm at work right now and I'm home.
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>>82819769
How do I snatch a qt Azerbaijan gf?
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>>82819915
Says a man frequenting a board where most people fap to traps.
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>>82819987
True, but maintaining a full time job and raising a child (which is itself a full time job) is pretty difficult. A 2 party system would make things a lot easier, even if one of you work from home.
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>>82818362
To avoid having it in the butt
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>>82817154
so bascially you are a manchild. gotcha.
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>>82817272
>gay sex isn't inherently immoral
Yes it is.
>and nobody should be punished for it
Yes they should.

Have you ever considered that maybe everything you believe is bullshit?
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>>82819868
Fake news. I wish it was true though.
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>>82817563
>nothing harmful

Tearing the lining of your rectum and anus is one of the most harmful things you can do to your body.
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>>82817899
>incest isn't really a problem
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>>82818044
They're both nothing but fetishes.
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>>82820016
>goes to 4chan
>argues against the Yotsuba parenting model
What the fuck
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>>82818327
>There is no valid moral argument against incest

Liberals and homosexuals don't have moral standards because they're godless degenerates. Their only standards are double standards.

What ever allows them to remain unnacountable for the poison they spread.
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>>82818327
You should be sent to a reeducation camp or if that fails a gas chamber. The terrifying thing is that there are millions of people like you walking the streets who hold such opinions. It's staggering to me.
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>>82818364
Source.
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>>82818514
They ARE in the wrong.
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So besides the gay scene, is the show any good?
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>>82820220

You are sick in the head.
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>>82818765
No it isn't. It's harmful to the human. Same with incest. And homosexuality. It's a fetish and a sin and morally degrades the practitioner, leading them to even worse acts, and destroying their humanity and mind and damning their soul.
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>>82818333
its actually pretty based, but this scene was just particularly annoying in the social context of the audience, which didn't matter bcause the characters that were listening the bs died in a fire as a sacrifice which allowed later Africans to be able to land safely in America, unlike the Vikings in the first scene..
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>>82820067
The greatest thing Jews did was planting their shitty religion into the European culture. Thousands of years later, we have Yuros and Amerisharts who think these Semitic religions are integral parts of their culture and their civilizations would collapse without it.
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>>82819391
Sex without the intent of procreation is immoral. Procreation is the telos (the purpose, the intent, the outcome) of sex. Any frustration of that purpose is thus perverse, disordered, and immoral. Pleasure, intimacy, relief are all subsidiary to the telos. Nonreproductive sex is a mortal sin. Your sense of morality is nonsensical.
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>>82819570
Society isn't functioning and is dying and will collapse within a century and be replaced with a society without retarded opinions.
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>>82817154
>Hetero scene
Vagina eats people

>Homo scene
fills your body with unholy demon djinn light not forwarding the story at all but shoving fag shit in our faces but cool eye glow
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>>82820287
If this is true then why are there so many homosexual men of faith such as priests?
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>>82819915
Anyone who disagrees with Nazism is secretly a Nazi.
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>>82820253
And you're damned.
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>>82817154
It's not wrong to be repulsed by a sickening and vulgar sex act. Your reaction was healthy and normal.

The left wants to push their vile homosexual agenda on everyone, with the intention of making everyone gay
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>>82817154
Okay I just watched it and what the fuck is that shitty cgi with the all black characters with the fire?
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>>82820398
I love this garbage nihilist view of history. You are aware that the Jews killed Jesus and reject him as the messiah right? You realize that the Jewish "messiah" who is going to unite the world through war is the EXACT definition of the Christian Antichrist.

Do you understand the point I'm making here pothead? The Jews are TRIGGERED by morality and are slowly coalescing power into a global power. Christianity promotes freedom of choice, Jewish religious law puts Rabbi's into governmental positions of power and then DICTATES THE VERY LAWS OF REALITY.

I doubt you understand any of this, go back to your death metal and daddy issues.
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>>82820398
...he wrote in Latin script which ultimately comes from a Semitic writing system.
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>>82818883
>Also animals never get pleasure from sex, except dolphins

this is wrong

most animals get pleasure from sex. the pleasure derived from sex is at times the sole motivator behind animals seeking it out in the first place.
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>>82818914
incest is only a big deal once to explain why the sons of Lot were so fucked and served as a precaution against fucking your daughters and sisters..

incest is wrong
homosexuality isn't morally right in any way as its only gross pleasure seeking
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>>82817154
You say that like vaginas ain't nasty as hell.
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>>82820464
Because humans are sinful and "you too!" is a formal logical fallacy (I forget the French term) so you have no actual argument and can fuck right off.
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>>82820525
this.

the jews do have a messiah

his name is sabbatai zevi

antichrist indeed.
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>>82820506
if you are disgusted by gay sex you are healthy and normal.
if you are more disgusted by gay sex than watching children be murdered then you are NOT healthy and normal.
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>>82820433
Former Occultist here. I just want to say something.

Aleistar Crowley believe that gay sodomy was the perfect grounds for demonic possession. That the act itself was indusive to being possessed by demons, something he saw as a "good" thing.

Djinn are basically demons. Notice how the satanically influence writer is basically showing a man getting possessed through gay sodomy with a demon.

The author Neil Gaiman is a second generation scientologist. The founder of that false religion studied Crowley, openly recommending his books and even calling him his "good friend."

If anyone here was at all repulsed by that scene that is simply a natural reaction from the divine spirit within you
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>>82820574
False equivalency
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>>82820464
there really aren't that many unless in south america where moral have degraded
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>MUH DOG CAN'T CONSENT
Why am I giving it free food and shelter? If we're pretending it has the same rights as humans, shouldn't it work for food and shelter? I don't see what my dog can do other than be an interspecies prostitute. It's forced into this life the same way humans are. It just can't make money any other way. You're the man now, dog, such is your life.
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>>82820574
Sodomy is a form of sadomasochistic sex that is inherently violent and damaging to the body. Not as bad as children being murdered I agree but it would largely depend on the context and presentation of the image how repulsive the scene is.
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>>82820583
Once again Hollywood is pushing a gay satanic agenda.
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>>82820542
Are you aware that contraception exists in current year? Having sex with your sister doesn't mean you will have children with your sister.
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>>82820594
explain your accusation
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>>82820629
Openly
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americans have extensive issues: the thread
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>>82818166
Other the countless eons of biological conditioning that compel us to find it wrong? I thought progressives luved science.

Think of it like this you degenerate, we have been told that sexual harassment is wrong, so much so much so that we need to ensure their is a cultural stigma attached to it. Power imbalances lead to exploitation and abuse. How the fuck is this not the case in familial relationships? Especially in light of the fact that virtually all people recognize familial abuse, tramua and stability have an unparalleled effect on a persons mental health and wellbeing.

This isn't even touching on the fact that if attraction did exist, it's so exceedingly unlikely that the most plausible source for this fucked up deviation was a legacy of childhood abuse, which you are perpetuating.

Honestly I hope this bait, otherwise just know you have a completely unhealthy view of the world. If we agree free speech or sufferage is some vital right, despite occasional discord, can at least agree you have the right to assume you won't go through life having to be pressured into having sex with your fucking family
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>>82820625
>Not as bad as children being murdered I agree
this is the only relevant part of your post and the only thing that should have been in it
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>>82820638
Are you aware that contraception is only 99% effective in the current year?

Fuck your sister 100 times and you'll likely be having a child.

Contraception does not stop pregnancy. It only makes it less likely.
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>>82817154
i just skipped ahead until he woke up

2 men having sex is gross
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Grown men arguing about a gay sex scene in a fantasy TV show online? Your parents must be so proud.
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>>82820664
Oh you don't understand nuance. You're an idiot.
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>>82820678
>Contraception does not stop pregnancy. It only makes it less likely.
That's true, and I wish more people were aware of it. They pretend it's 100% effective and then end up killing their unborn children.
>Fuck your sister 100 times and you'll likely be having a child.
That isn't really how it works. Look up the gambler's fallacy.
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>>82820726
I know the gambler's fallacy. I didn't care enough to qualify my post with it because you should understand my point.
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>>82820664
Moron. Children getting murdered can be less disturbing than buggery on TV, because it can be quick. Ever watched Assault on Precinct 13?
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>>82820689
It was a djinn not a man so it's not gay
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>>82820583
>jinn are basically demons
nope, even if and its a big if, if gayman sees them that way he's wrong if fuller seeing them that way he's wrong, jinn don't fit into christian mythology, closest that comes to it is the nephilim, and jinn are not giants or 1/2 angels, mostly
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>>82817154
Thats not the reason to hate homos t b h the reason to hate homos is because they have many many times the amounts of sex partners per year than heterosexuals. They are more likely to have stds. They are more likely to abuse drugs. They are more likely to have been abused as children and more likely to abuse children. These are all reasons to hate homos.
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>>82820678
contraception come in more forms than just condoms
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>>82820756
Oh, we're good then.
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>>82820726
>>82820678
Are you guys really that retarded? There are ways to make sure you 100% don't have a kid if you're in a relationship. A vasectomy is one of those ways. If you're commited to fucking your sister, that's the way to go for you.
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>>82820795
And all of them can fail. Celibacy and sterilization are the only guaranteed ways to keep from having children.
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>>82820820
Or you could you know never have sex with your sister?
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>>82820827
The chance of certain injections and hormone blockers failing is so insanely small that for the sake of conversation, you can safely say they'll just never fail.

for the 1 in 1,000,000 ones that do fail, just abort them, right?
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>>82820852
this kek
>>82820827
exactly
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>>82818170
The thing is, i'm pro gay stuff too but it can get pretty gross.

But I think that's as natural as not being attracted to fat slobs either. It's all preference.
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>>82820864
>for the 1 in 1,000,000 ones that do fail, just abort them, right?
this is the kind of thinking I was pointing out above
>The chance of certain injections and hormone blockers failing is so insanely small that for the sake of conversation, you can safely say they'll just never fail.
Would you play Russian roulette if the barrel had 1,000,000 chambers?
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>>82820794

THIS. Homos are deviant broken people. There is something deeply wrong with them a biological level. MOST of homo hate comes from their disgusting debased lifestyles imo
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>>82820885
I'm not following this weird ass conversation about sister fucking so I don't know to what you refer to when you say "pointing out above", but if you're going to argue anything about reproductive rights and all that you really need to concede that modern contraception is pretty effective. to say that there is even a 1% chance of some of these methods failing would be disingenuous, as you'd need to add in a LOT more .0's.
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>>82820864
Going through all that effort doing something unnatural just so you can do something else unnatural...why not just stick with doing natural things, like only fucking a woman you want to have a child with?
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>>82820788
People of the fire = demons

Djinn are demons. They act and behave in the same way as demons
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>>82820928
Anon, statistics are just that, statistics. It's useless to know a surgical intervention doesn't kill the patient 99% of the time because that tells nothing about MY surgery. Same with contraceptives or any statistic. Your universe is one event.
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>>82820959
eh I dont really want children, and seeing as modern humanity is living in the peak of unnatural lifestyles, I don't imagine wanting to get my rocks off without throwing my life away is going to ruin much.

I mean, you seem to see sex as some moral imperative to having children, and that's cool, but some of us just like to feel good once in awhile, yknow?
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>>82820788
Wait, you think Christianity created the concept of demons? That the concept didn't exist in much earlier cultures and religions?

Wow, you really are fucking stupid.
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>>82817154
>hetero "ally" squirms uncomfortably while blogging about how they're oh so progressive as long as they don't have to see it
Fuck off, breeder, with 'friends' like you who needs the fucking KKK?
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>>82820236
No. They over exaggerate the violence compared to the book. the whole show is really just unnecessary.
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>>82820928
The only forms of contraception widely used are condoms and the pill. The others are too drastic, expensive, and inconvenient for most people to regularly or reliably use so aren't really worth discussing.
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>>82817154
I'm gay and the scene felt a bit iffy for me, too. It's the beards. I like my men young, smooth and usually white (sometimes black), but I've never been turned on by the hairy muslim look.

Other than that, it was a damn good story/ scene. I just can't enjoy beards.
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>>82820966
no they don't, I don't recall any story of them accepting the sacrifice of the newborn, like say moloch an actual demon
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>>82820852
You could also not drink alcohol. Let's make that illegal, it's bad for you. Why not go full Muslim if we're banning things based on "you could not do without it".
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>>82821018
anon this is just patently untrue. every girlfriend i've had has been using injections or hormone blockers and i've only met few women in my life to use the pill. the pill is very unpopular these days because it messes with the period cycle too much and can cause undesired weight gain or loss.
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>>82820988
you have trouble with reading, please don't talk to me until you've resolved that issue
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>>82820901
> MOST of homo hate comes from their disgusting debased lifestyles imo
people always use this and parades but this thread illustrates very well how people (esp christians) will reel back and feel sickened at the thought of man + man sex, often without similar reactions for f+f sexies
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>>82820985
Then you are using sex to defeat its own purpose.

You're like a bulimic saying "Dude good for you for thinking nutrition is the point of food but I'm just going to vomit everything I eat I just like to enjoy the taste every once in a while you know?"

If you don't see the problem with this you're insane.
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>>82820236
yes
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>>82821041
Now you're talking.
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>>82821048
>can cause undesired weight loss
Oh yes I can see the problem
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>>82820657
>having to try this hard to explain why incest is wrong

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with liberals?
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>>82821063
you eat food to keep you alive
you have sex to have kids

everyone needs to eat food, so everyone eats food
not everyone needs to have kids, so not everyone has kids

so it's pretty easy to separate the act of sex from the act of having kids and when you do, it's a really good time. you should try it, man.
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>>82821087
Inshallah brother
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>>82821093
well yknow anon, some chicks already struggle with being underweight. you dont want to have your contraception cause that to be more of a problem.
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>>82821048
Eh I don't keep up with it. Glad to know there's going to be a lot more childless women in their 30s with broken pair bonding mechanisms and riddled with STDs than I thought. That's really what the world needs more of now.
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>>82821121
so about 20 yrs out of date, ok so either way to young or way to old for your opinion to matter, why post?
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If you consider human society as a single body, almost all forms of sex that are not straight and between two non-relatives are overall immoral due to their infectiously corrupting nature.

Yes, you *could* focus on repairing a single cell of the body (aka pushing for gay rights everywhere, or for incest rights, etc). But in doing so, you harm the 95+% rest of society by even filling their brains with these thoughts that only lead them to sadness, confusion, and the destruction of themselves as well as of society (see: the failing of the family unit as individualism rises on).
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>>82821121
well that's a pretty unfortunate way to look at the world, but you're right that it's pretty good these women don't necessarily have to be saddled down with kids these days. i'd be so scared if i was born a woman, i sure as hell wouldnt want to push a kid out of me.
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>>82821102
I've had more sex than you.

Sex is pointless when you remove the point.

You're insane.
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>>82821112
More like deus vult.
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>>82821158
well im sorry to say that most people in general would disagree with you - sex without kids is still pretty good. you don't really need a "point" or a "reason" to feel good sometimes, sometimes you just wanna feel good and make someone else feel good, yknow?

get back in the sex game anon, a social creature left without sex is a terrible thing.
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>>82821146
10 years. You're an idiot for thinking technology makes morality obsolete.
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>>82821175
No difference at all.
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>>82821048
That happens with injections too and they're more likely to cause permanent infertility and other issues like polycystic ovaries and uterine cancer because of the dose. Yay liberation.
>>82821121
kek, and then you see stuff like this
http://archive.is/FWy1V
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>>82821200
how does that apply to what contraceptives are being used? u underage son?
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>>82821152
Instead you're saddled with paying your tax dollars for these women to live as cat ladies and eat antidepressants. Enjoy.
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It was just Fuller being Fuller. It really is super gay though.
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Djinn are Zoroastrian in origin. They were adapted into Judaism through the cult of YHWH during the Babylonian diaspora, along with the concept of Satan (Ahriman) as an adversary of YHWH and not His agent as he used to be depicted in pre-diaspora Judaism, and it came back to Israel after Cyrus set the Hebrews free when Persia conquered Babylon. The returned cult of YHWH wiped out all their rivals after the homecoming and all that Zoroastrian baggage became part of their teachings. All the demonology of Judaism comes from that 80-year stint of forcibly having to coexist with Zoroastrians just to be allowed to practice some semblance of Judaism, and it got passed into Christianity up until Augustine decided it wasn't that important to keep and snipped the bulk of it out barring the Big Names like Satan; the lesser minions like djinn weren't worth mentioning for Christianity but you can still find mentions of them along with other 'demonic' forces in the Kabbalah, more so than in the apocryphal texts that Catholicism still plays with from time to time but Protestantism rejects outright.

Fun fact, though, was that even in Zoroastrianism, djinn aren't considered particularly evil, nor are they wholeheartedly aligned with Ahriman. Judaism painted them as being firmly part of Satan's hordes, and Islam followed suit. So basically, Abrahamic inability to pay attention to detail stuck djinn with a really bad rap. Only particular subclasses are deliberately malevolent towards people, but when you're getting your Hebrew persecution complex on, everyone's guilty.
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>>82821229
well taxation keeps society going anon, that is indeed the point.
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>>82821151
>Yes, you *could* focus on repairing a single cell of the body (aka pushing for gay rights everywhere, or for incest rights, etc). But in doing so, you harm the 95+% rest of society by even filling their brains with these thoughts that only lead them to sadness, confusion, and the destruction of themselves as well as of society (see: the failing of the family unit as individualism rises on).
>implying that's not the objective, masquerading as championing equality
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>>82821063
That's a nice analogy I had never thought of
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>>82821183
It should be apparent that I don't care what most people think. Most people are idiots. Most people are wrong. Most people are damaging themselves. Most people are damaging society. Sex has consequences. Sex is important. Hedonism is retarded and evil.
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>>82821245
It does the exact opposite. You're subsidizing people who have no children, meaning they put no new revenue into the cycle
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>>82819738
>>/tumblr/
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>>82821206
All the difference in the world. You'll share a bed with the Muslims one day. A bed of coals.
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>>82821274
Wow anon are you me
jk I care what most people think so I only vent out in these places to not face social ostracization that could be damaging to my goals
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>>82821274
>t. INTJ
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People who go into convulsions of horror at the sight of fairly average naked bodies are just fucking pathetic.
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>>82821033
You need to read up on this subject.

>>82821049
Not an argument you uneducated idiot.
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>>82820114
being purely rational, he's right. the physical world carries no repercussions for brother/sister protected sex, or any other kind of incest

and since everything is subjective, people should be able to do what they want

why do world cultures almost universally dislike incest? it's actually uncommon for first generation inbreeding to result in deformities, and with child mortality as high as it was in the past the difference could easily have been perceived negligible.

so if it wasn't inherently wrong, how did cultures on different ends of the globe both agree that incest was bad? The answer is because some things are bad because they are bad. a boy growing up would feel in his gut that porking his sister would be Wrong. a father seeing this behavior in his children would instinctively feel appalled. There are moral elements that are rooted in human nature and in truth not all things are so equally subjective
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>>82821304
Keep memeing brother
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>>82821340
>people who are repulsed by a penis entering a male asshole are pathetic
Wow that really makes me think
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>Feeling good is more important that being decent
>There is nothing wrong with fucking animals, corpses, or family
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>>82821346
Not an argument you uneducated idiot.
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>>82821364
fuck off with your deconstructionist post modern derrida bullshit
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>>82821364
>so if it wasn't inherently wrong, how did cultures on different ends of the globe both agree that incest was bad? The answer is because some things are bad because they are bad. a boy growing up would feel in his gut that porking his sister would be Wrong. a father seeing this behavior in his children would instinctively feel appalled. There are moral elements that are rooted in human nature and in truth not all things are so equally subjective
We have biological mechanisms to find it disgusting. Those mechanisms don't activate when the relatives spend their lives separated from each other and you get those abominations where a guy and his biological mother fall in love, or a brother and sister separated at birth fall in love
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>>82821385
Dick entering ass wasn't shown, only implied, but if it's really only the concept that upsets you then dick isn't meant to go in mouth either. I mean you eat from there! I hope you've never wanted a blowjob.
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>>82821400
I am an idiot and derrida is a new word for me

fuck you and fuck faggots, pedophiles, and all other sorts of degenerates and the enablers
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>>82821258
Yeah, it's hard to tell who are legitimately driving this force knowingly VS who are just useful idiots.
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You people are so sensitive.
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>>82821432
You mean who are the fake people/2-dimensional villains with no real interiority? Truly, perhaps one day we'll find one.
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>>82821426
derrida is not a word
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>>82821417
The idea of a blowjob is indeed appalling. Oddly enough I wouldn't mind doing some cunnilingus but I find fellatio to be rather denigrating.
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>>82821469
you faggot its you
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>>82821476
Sometimes the patrician choice is the most obvious.
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>>82821469
Please put words in my mouth and argue with the strawman all day. That really increases your intellect. Might as well go play with your dolls.
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>>82818508
Except Anansi never required blood sacrifice of his fucking followers
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>>82817154
you got triggered by sex scenes in sense8

lol...
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I think only one of these guys enjoyed it
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>>82821436

t. diseased HIV+ faggot
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>>82821469
He means who are the jews and who are the useful goyim
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>Hey now I'm not racist, BUT don't you think those NIGGERS are... - the thread
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If god created us all, then all sex is incest.
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>>82821621
lol kike say what now?
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>>82821699
that would only make sense to a fedora, y-your not a fedora a-are you?
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>>82821417
>Dick entering ass wasn't shown
Well then I guess I shouldn't be repulsed by videos of people shitting as long as the poop itself isn't visible.
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>>82817154

Be honest, if this had instead been two hot lesbians, would you have given a single fuck?
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>>82821840
It's natural for women to be bisexual anon.
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>>82821011
>He likes watching people he has no sexual interest in fucking in front of him
I think it would be worse if he liked it you sick boy.
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>>82821840
But it's not two hot men, a more comparable thing would be two ugly lesbians.
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>>82821871
If you watch porn, you've done exactly that. Enjoy your double standards along with your divorce rate.
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>>82819790
Religiousfags are the sole reason we don't live in an awesome fantasy world populated by fawns, centaurs, and werepeople.

That and science.
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>>82821853
>tfw my chinese cartoons say that it's only natural for boys to fuck boys
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>>82821912
>But it's not two hot men

I'd say that's debatable.
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>>82821914
>people have no sexual interest in pornstars
wew lad
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>>82821912
Yeah they aren't.
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>>82821840
Women get disgusted by lesbian scenes all the time dipshit. Specially the ones that have had close encounters.
A friend of mine once went to a gay dance club because it was in, and a dyke started touching her hair in the dance floor. She never went back.
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>>82819769
>laws=society acceptance
No
Croatia rates high just because of the civil union laws
Italy is OK for gays
Croatia is worse for gays than Italy, you actually can get your ass kicked if you are openly kissing on the street in the middle of some Dalmatian city...


And why the fuck would you want to marry anyways?
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>>82821957
FUCK SCIENCE, FUCK RELIGION and FUCK DRUMPF
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>>82820574
The thing is they never show a children getting killed
It's always off screen.
But here, oh boy did they show this abomination.
It was unnecessary graphics. I don't mind when it's an heterosexual relationship because male and female viewer relate and it can bring up feeling into the viewer, but here except gross out 99% of their viewer they added nothing to the scene by being so explicit.

I'm totally agains't the inclusion and ham fisting of gay characther especially in regards to explicit scene.
But i'm totally with them about the need of Representation. Therefor since gay are a fringe part of the population i'm quite happy with the previous state of thing where gay people would watch their gay show and everyone else would watch real show.
Gay are already far apart from the rest of society, they have weak number, why should we add them in mainstream shit i ask you ?
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>>82820638
Well I guess not since woman are so caught up with their "right" to dispose of ((((their))) body.
Seems to me that contraception is so failliable you have to have the opportunity to kill your child quite easily
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>>82817154
You are clearly a homosexual in denial OP.
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>>82820788
Djinn are demon you stupid fuck get your mistaken conception of islam away
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>>82821971
>reddit in disguise.jpg
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>>82821575
He should get more praise for his acting.
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>>82821957
I know two physicists that are anti-GMO (claiming that it's bad even though there are no evidence), anti-nuclear, believe in all kinds of lightweight conspiracies (muh oil industry and americans keeping the electric car down), capitalism is evil, artificial sweetener is cancer, toxins and shit
They are my colleagues at work

You might say they are religious too... but not int the structured, lets-go-to-the-temple kind of way but in the let us believe in bullshit just because it's makes shit easier for me and places blame on some secret entity

They are leftist

>>82822283
I believe people should be able to make any sort of depravity they like, and other people should have the right to choose to watch it if they wish to do so
and pay for it IF THEY WISH TO DO SO

That is my problem with faggotry and general collective leftism. It's just forcing others to pay for your bullshit.
At least in Europe.
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>>82822184
>implying if you can't get beaten up for that practically everywhere in Italy outside of large cities and the north
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>>82822184
>And why the fuck would you want to marry anyways?
to JUST the other guy I guess
>>82822283
Even most heterosexual explicit sex scenes add nothing. If I wanted to watch porn I'd just watch porn goddammit, not some simulated sex.
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>>82822432
Have you seen Italians?
They come here to Croatia and ALL look like fags
Plus, Italians might kiss their kin near the mouth on the cheek so probability to recognize two actual fags in Italy is slim

I am being dense as a joke, but my original point still stands - laws are not same as cultural acceptance

>>82822444
What's with the gays and money?
Are you all wealthy or poor fags just don't dress extravagantly?

I have honestly never met an openly gay person. I only saw them at a Pride twice. Dressed like punkers and emo. Was not impressed.
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>>82822444

Simulated sex is usually better than most porn.
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>>82822528
Sorry I misled you into thinking I was a faggot anon, it wasn't my intention. I was just lashing at gratuitous sex scenes in modern television and film.
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>>82822528
You can't have the laws without cultural acceptance Italians might look like fags but if you try hit on them they will beat you up like any type of slav.
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>>82822583
It still has no reason to be there
>>82822624
kek, that's just wrong anon
people often despise the law
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>>82822641
Jesus christ, do you understand that introducing gay marriage requires a huge degree of support from the society, one that isn't there in either Italy or any other slav countries?
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>>82822419
>muh oil industry and americans keeping the electric car down

This one was at least partially true for most of the 20th Century, though. Look up who bought all the old electric trolley companies and intentionally ran mass-transit into the shitter for a long-ass time.
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>>82822624
>they will beat you up like any type of slav.
>implying 165cm tall Italian with white shorts and sleeveless shirt will beat up 198cm tall Dalmatian
You don't have any idea what happens to Italians round here, do you?
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>>82822770
Batteries m8
They are still shit.

I was not talking about mass transit but personal vehicles
Oh, and low density housing also did not help it either
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>>82822724
Wrong, it only requires a bunch of corrupt politicians wanting those UN bribes
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>>82822770
Oil companies are first and foremost energy companies. They're not in the oil business, they're in the money making business. Are you unaware that they have investments in electric transport tech? They know it's what's coming and they want to come on top. It's a race right now, whoever makes it first gets to wreck the competition.
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>>82822772
After this retarded response I'm not actually going to argue against the idea of slavs being more physically imposing at the cost of mental retardation.
>>82822827
If that was the case all the slav shitholes would've had it years ago. And Italy too of course.
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>>82822896
Even the corrupt politicians in Slav "shitholes" hate faggots and the UN too. And they get their bribes from Russia.
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>>82822951
Slav shitholes hate russia you dumb burger.
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>>82822819
Yeah, I don't disagree. Batteries still suck, but there's no questioning that there was a concerted effort on the part of the oil industry, the auto industry, and either active collusion on the part of the government or at least a suspicious willingness to look the other way from what they were doing with mass transit.

Hell, you could make a pretty solid argument that housing density and the rise of lawns(sold as being a big part of that good ole American Dream) were even factors in it. They killed mass transit and sold suburban living and the "freedom" of the open road and America bought in wholesale.

It wasn't even nefarious. It was just good business, if incredibly short-sighted.
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>>82822896
Well, Dalmatians are not 100% Slavic by genetics, only language.
Anyways, they are not that dumb either, they are your average white European... problem is political and cultural systems in place - we, in Croatia, are diverse enough to make our lizard brain hyperactive in hating each other but too similar to go separate ways - which in turn slows down potential to figth actual problems - economic ones
Add communism/socialism for 45 years and you get culturally and economically stunted people and culture of pettiness, laziness, corruption and hating anyone successful

Bosniaks are retarded onrs
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>>82822882
It's a race where they hobbled the competition for a century for the very reasons you've outlined. Oil used to be cheaper, easier to access, and environmental concerns be damned.

Multiple cars for every household were to the benefit of both the oil industry as well as the auto industry. Reliable mass transit wasn't. Even little jerkwater burgs used to have trolley systems. Go to a few. You can still see the tracks in the asphalt. Big auto and big oil had no intention of letting those exist.
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>>82823131
Europe has densely populated cities
No electric cars in sight. Hell, Americans even bought more hybrids than us

If the tech was there, money would be there
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>>82823190
You got an underground? An elevated transit system? The overwhelming majority of America does not. What we've got is roads. Lots and lots of roads.
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>>82822982
Only Ukraine.
Serbs and Belorussians for example are well aware that Russia is based af
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>>82823232
>You got an underground? An elevated transit system?
Yep. All over the place.
But we were talking about personal vehicles not mass transit - which is mostly tied with electric infrastructure and rails

That's why I keep bringing up batteries. Energy density of coal, oil is just crazy compared to existing batteries...
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>>82823290
>Only Ukraine.
Fucking kek

I'm not even going to waste more time replying to a retarded burger. Belarus is Ukraine 2.0 in the making, Serbs would bomb the russian embassy in their country in a heartbeat if it meant they can get into the EU, same with other ex yu shitholes. Any other slav country hates russia with a fucking passion. Hahahah.
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>>82823382
Spotted the maidan faggot lol
Maybe Bosniaks and Polacks would do it but not Serbs
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>>82819659
Homestly yeah I would have liked to be warned about that.
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>>82821840
Yes, that's absolutely true.
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