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Why did no one complain about "pushing diversity" in

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Why did no one complain about "pushing diversity" in The Matrix? It's not much different from The Force Awakens for instance.
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>>82758917
Because the Wazchovski brothers were still the Wazchovski brothers. It were simpler times anon
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Who knows what /tv/ would have been like in 1999.

Probably the same though.
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>>82758917
It was a original movie, unlike Force Awakens. Also, a black guy isn't pushing diversity, faggot.
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because nobody gave a fuck about """diversity""" back then
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>>82759092
>TFA is a remake of the OT
>TFA is not enough like the OT

I hate this meme
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Because it didnt seem that they cast Larry F on the colour of his skin
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>>82758917
>The Matrix came out 35 years ago
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>>82759062

This. If this movie would have been release today /tv/ would be throwing a tantrum over it, they would call it reddit, and make a ton of forced shitty memes.

>>82759034

Larry at the time was acting very feminine, would wear women's earrings and make up.
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>>82758917
>Why did no one complain about "pushing diversity" in The Matrix? It's not much different from The Force Awakens for instance.
Because everything they wanted to do didn't happen. They originally wanted Neo to be played by Will Smith. Keanu was relatable to white people and so the movie was a success. If it had been all evil white dudes being beat up by a bunch of brown people it'd of flopped hard. That's what the trannies wanted but they didn't get it.
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>>82758917
Reminder that Reloaded and Revolutions are great films
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>>82758917
Because "race realism" didn't get mainstream appeal on the internet until GG. Now literally everything is white genocide.
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Because in 1999 the West wasn't obsessed with identity politics. I don't know how this cancerous shit got WORSE after the US have had a black president
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>>82759480
Reloaded is good except for the cringe cave party scene, revolutions is awful
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The Wachowskis have always been really annoying with muh equality
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>>82758917
because it's not diversity for diversity's sake. they didn't pat themselves on the back for doing it. paying to watch it wasn't pushed as activism by corporate shills. more to the point, there was no apparent agenda behind it, or at least they were a lot more subtle

yeah, it's true that /tv/ now can't see anything with a black person in without crying, but they brought it on themselves in a way
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>>82759362
>If this movie would have been release today /tv/ would be throwing a tantrum over it, they would call it reddit, and make a ton of forced shitty memes.
this is very true and pretty sad
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>>82759582
It was only subtle because the studio forced them to be subtle. They wanted to push the trans shit way more with Switch but were forced to dial it back. They also wanted the original casting to be all brown people vs evil white people. You can actually still sort of see that in what we got if you look closely. All the villains are white. All the heroes are mostly brown, PoC and LGBTQ. The few white guys who WERE good guys were either queer or traitors who ended up becoming villains or have their mind taken over by villains. Then the few left after that were weak limp wrist faggots.

Aside from Neo and Trinity there are no strong whites. Keanu isn't all white himself though and he was originally supposed to be played by a black man like Will Smith who refused the role. Trinity was the only character who was meant to be a strong white in the entire fucking thing and she's female.
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>>82759092
>TFA is a ripoff of New Hope
Every single star wars movie is a ripoff of New Hope
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>>82758917
Because nobody gave a fuck about the ideas of white supremacists back then
Now, any non-white cast as a lead is "OMG WHITE GENOCIDE!!!1!!one!1!!!"
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>Rewatch The Matrix recently
>Its aged like milk
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>>82759911
this
The Matrix is a shit movie that edgelords fell in love with
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>>82758917
I personally couldn't imagine anyone else as Morpheus. They wrote a character and he (an established actor) fit the bill. He's now iconic in that role.

To use your example, it's clear with Star Wars that they write intentionally bland, generic characters that any actor could feasibly play, and then work out the cast according to their quota. That's the difference.

No one's going to remember Boyega as Black Man, or Ridley as Girl Hero in 20 years time.
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>>82759911
>>82759941
bullcrap

the first one is great
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>>82759362
If the matrix had come out in 2017 it WOULD have been fucking Reddit
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>>82758917
Because this was back when people just enjoyed movies and didn't waste time obsessing over the skin color of the main characters.
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>>82760001
>To use your example, it's clear with Star Wars that they write intentionally bland, generic characters that any actor could feasibly play,
If any actor could fill the role, why does it being a black person matter?
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>>82759731
Well I was weirded out by how there were actually few white characters in Zion, but I still enjoyed the films back then
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>>82760123
notice that everyone that's in the simulated world (the Matrix) is white while almost everyone in Zion is brown
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>>82758917
Are you under the impression that there was universal praise for the sweaty, ethnic rave scene in Reloaded?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaq3mFrXy6Y
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>>82760005
No it wasn't.
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>>82760221
So Zionists are a bunch of niggers dependent on technology siphoning out the life of white people
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>>82759911
The CGI didn't age well -which is very visible on Reloaded in the Smith fight in the park- but overall the movies look fine.
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>>82759454
> Keanu was relatable to white people and so the movie was a success. If it had been all evil white dudes being beat up by a bunch of brown people it'd of flopped hard. That's what the trannies wanted but they didn't get it.
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>>82760287
basically yeah
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>>82760272
I haven't LAWLED that much in awhile. Thank you anon.
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The matrix was cool as shit

So futuristic and yet so 90's

Perfect sci fi nostalgia
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>>82759551
Reloaded is the shit one.

Revolutions is great, I have no idea why people dislike it so much
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>main character isn't even white
>the bad guy is a white man
>one of the main characters is black
Why doesn't /tv/ sperg out more over this
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>>82760221
Even the animatrix had two shorts with the black males and asian and white females
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>>82760047
I don't know how you could read that and think my problem is the black actor, and not the generic character. The problem is that they decide they need a nondescript black character to fill their quota, instead of actually writing compelling characters and then finding suitable actors. It would be just as bad if their quota was to have a 100% white cast, if being white was the only notable thing about each character.
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>>82760005
Although the first matrix was great its funny watching it again and seeing just how low budget it is.

The main actors cant act, the minor actors are acting their hearts out and all the props look cheap and flimsy. I especialy love when some is supposed to press an enter button on a key board in a dramatic way and instead just mashes the keyboard with his palm.

lol.
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Beyond is the only segment I thought was good, though it would depress me if I rewatch it
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>>82760372
Most of /tv/ is too underage to have even seen it.

Reminder that if you were born on the day The Matrix released you'd only be 2 months from being 18. Reminder that that's the demographic you're sharing this board with.
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>>82760435
Most cyberpunk fiction and writers seriously understand fuck all about computers, it's all just aesthetics and metaphors for some Marxist bullshit.
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>>82760435
is this really what you focus on?
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>>82760229
Nothing like watching 5 minutes of a metaphorical orgy.

Also obligatory IS THAT A FUCKING NIPPLE post.
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>>82760499
Fuck off /pol/yp.
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>>82758917
because Neo and Trinity were supposed to be black in the scenario
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>>82760568
I don't know what that means.
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>>82758917
The red pill was ironically not around as much back then.
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>>82760514
The 5th time wathing it, yes.
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>>82758917
Coz event horizon already sold me morpheus as an exellent ship captain.


Midnight especial sold me kilo ren as an inept cia agent.
Its the little details anon.
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>>82760568
You dont need to be from /pol/ to laugh at the philosophy contained in the matrix films.
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>>82760568
*Postmodernist bullshit then. Is that better?
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90% of the people ITT are full of shit

The Matrix was always about bizarre nigger fetishism

Keep in mind that this was the beautiful human society that all the characters fought and died to protect and suddenly Cypher's actions make a lot more sense, imagine his face the first time he got there
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>>82760358
I rewatched the trilogy to a friend who didn't know about it some time ago, he liked Revolutions the most but mostly because it focused way less on Neo and more on the war on Zion and Smith, which is what he liked the most. I find much people don't like Neo. Now I wonder how the reaction would be if he was black instead.
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>>82759149
Nobody has ever said that TFA is not enough like the OT. It's literally a carbon copy with a fresh coat of paint sprayed over it.
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>>82760689
And the storyline is so obviously political. Is everyone just going to tell people to go to /pol/ for mentioning the politics in politically charged fiction?
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>>82760736
No, because you still don't know what either of those words mean.

Read a fucking book.
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>>82760757
People in Zion were living like sewer rats
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Remember in Cloud Atlas when they showed how 10,000 years in the future whites would all be filthy illiterate tribes of cannibals and blacks would be hyper advanced philosophers living in a spaceship?

What did they mean by this?
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>>82758917
i'll take "what is bait?" for 100 alex

the difference is that there seemed to be the board at disney had pushed for more diversity for marketing purposes (virtue signal) and maximize demographic appeal to get more $$$

Lucas did this to a less extent with Sammy Jackson in Mace Windu's role, since he was terribly miscast to play a stoic jedi.. instead of getting morgan freeman, he got sammy jackson since he had the most box office draw (since pulp fiction) among demographic (and not for just for the 'urban' market, but the 18-25 group who loved pulp) - but its a little less bad because he atleast was trying something new, disney is trying to pull nostalgia
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>>82760304
This. I think the CGI of Reloaded and Revolutions still looks great, but that of The Matrix looks embarrassingly bad, like from a animatic. If there were ever a justified remaster, this would be it.
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>>82760801
>still don't know
Have we spoken before?
>Read a fucking book
Which book? There are lot of shitty books.
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>>82760401
>The problem is that they decide they need a nondescript black character to fill their quota,
You mention that any race of actor could fill the roles, so why're you going on about quotas?
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>>82760771
I only watched the sequels a year and a half ago, after having seen the original for the first time like 15 years ago.

They obviously didn't live up to the hype, but they weren't 'ZOMG WORST MOVEES EVER'

Reloaded just seemed to be a competitor pointless movie. Other than the architect scene it contained nothing that couldn't easily have been in revolutions.
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Like Will Smith, Laurence Fishburne is not considered black
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>>82760757
lit af
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>>82760757
>Forced underground for unknown amount of centuries
>centuries more of black sky since the end of the second renaissance
>Black people still exists as they do today and haven't become completely white themselves.

As far as we know, it only took as little as 2000 years for migratory Africans to become white while living in Europe/Asia. I'm supposed to believe this many niggers exist in a dark world AND living underground?!
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>>82760914
*completely
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>>82759911
There hasn't been a single good American action movie since The Matrix, you limp wristed faggot. The Matrix reinvented the action genre and is fucking iconic. Even the worst one is better than 90% of modern blockbusters.
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I didn't particularly take note of it when I watched The Matrix. Morpheus and Smith were cool and all, the dynamics were all neat. The Oracle was annoying from the first minute she opened her mouth but whatever.

But by the time this came out I was already fucking tired of it. Almost every short had a BLACKED subtext, it was obnoxious.
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>>82760966
This

What the fuck has happened to our culture? Everything, everywhere is just getting worse and worse.
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>>82760841
That whole movie was a mess, but their pidgin language seemed extremely convincing of what English might sound like hundreds of years from now. Still, trying to understand them was a pain in the ass and thus connecting with them was was hard. The zombie hallucinations and general shittyness of the story also didn't help.
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>>82760951
>>82760914

Yeah I agree. Reloaded felt too much like a filler movie to justify a trilogy and it's way obvious they were working on Reloaded and Revolutions at the same time too.
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>>82760976

What are you talking about? The first vignette is about a black dude wanting to bone an asian lady and that's the only black guy in the whole movie.
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>>82760976
Yeah but Second Renaissance made up for it
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>>82760966
this, it's crazy how groudbreaking it was in so many aspects
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>>82761065
I don't blame you for your faulty memory of this shitheap
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>>82758917

Back then people realized that ratio was correct and no one gave a shit about race really except CNN and Fox.
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>>82760966
>There hasn't been a single good American action movie since The Matrix

John Wick, Dredd, Casino Royale, Mad Max
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>>82761101
>not expecting a black man to be the best at atletism

Do you even stereotype anon?
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Why didn't the machines fix the sky and explore the solar system?

And don't tell me they couldn't do it, they had at least six fucking centuries to figure it out.
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>>82761101

I forgot about this one lol
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>>82761101
wow, they used a black athlete for a world record.
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>>82760901
Because they choose to fill the roles by quota...

Like I said, the roles themselves are generic as shit. If they just picked actors out of a hat, which they easily could without anyone batting an eye, the chances of ending up with a woman and a black man as the two main protagonists are pretty slim.
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>>82758917
Because it was a good movie and they chose good actors to play good parts and it was fun.
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>>82761166
>he doesn't know about the ayy lmaos in the short story from 1999
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>>82761197
>Because they choose to fill the roles by quota...
>Like I said, the roles themselves are generic as shit. If they just picked actors out of a hat, which they easily could without anyone batting an eye, the chances of ending up with a woman and a black man as the two main protagonists are pretty slim.

So you admit that anyone can play the roles, but you make up an imaginary quota system to have something that's oppressing white guys? So they shouldn't have chosen a black guy or a woman?
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>>82761139
>Dredd, Casino Royale
British

>Mad Max
Australian

>John Wick
Eh
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>>82758917
I didn't know about the Jews when I was 10.
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>>82760947
That's not how evolution works, anon. But the niggers are viable simply because of the amount of dependence everyone has on the machines and nothing natural
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why can't anyone grasp the concept of intent anymore?
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>>82761193
>>82761151
>>82761065
And in addition to the CGI interracial episode, there was also the samurai duel between these lovers
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>>82761193
You forgot this one
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>>82761340
>the black guy is on black armor with horns

BLACKS ARE EVIL
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>>82761166
Because the machines are just another layer of control. The Masters of which are likely rich white men. Why else would so much of Zion be browns and betas like Mouse, The Kid and Neo himself(don't try to deny Neo wasn't a beta cuck before he became a pseudo 1337 haxor)
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>>82761324
Meaning diversity doesn't count unless you intended it?
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>>82761255
I actually remember reading about this years ago.

Was it an official story?
Was it good?
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>>82761272
Again, you're going on a weird tangent about something I haven't said. I'm not saying their generic character should be white, I'm saying that they shouldn't be writing generic characters in the first place. In lieu of selling a compelling story or interesting characters, they're selling diversity instead. It's lazy and boring.

It would be the same thing if they sat in a room and decided, actually, the best thing for marketing is to make everyone white, and then made the fact that the characters are white the selling point without bothering to write good characters.
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>>82759582
>>82758917
Who says John Boyega was casted for "diversity's sake"? He's a charismatic actor. name one white actor who could play a 20 year old in star wars and not make us want to kill ourselves. Dave Franco, miles teller are shit

>inb4 unsubstantiated claims that Finn was originally a Han type character and JJ changed it
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>>82761072
>>82761393
And the killer robot put on trial in The Second Renaissance was named B1-66ER. His laweyer cited the Dredd Scott decision in his defense. The story was inspired by this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Son
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>>82759454
Oh yeah people were so racist in 99 that there's no way an action sci-fi film with Will Smith in it would do well.
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>>82761400
The Matrix is a literal Marxist metaphor. They even put Cornell West into the sequels.
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>>82761294
>Mad Max
>Australian

>its Australian because the movie is set in Australia
Mate...
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>>82761482
Pfft, maybe the sequels are.
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>>82761459
What's wrong with this?
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>>82761490
Written, produced and directed by an Australian. Yes, I think it qualifies.
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>>82761459
Beautiful, another communist influence.
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>bashing on anything that was touched by based Keanu
kys kids
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>>82761482
It's about Gnosticism, not Marxism.
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>>82761520
Richard Wright was a literal communist in the American Communist party
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>>82761520
I'm just saying a LOT of the story hinges on the Wachowski's fascination with black people and fans seem to write it off as coincidence even after it happens over and over and over

And I'd agree it was minor to the point of being unnoticeable in the first Matrix movie but it really grew in scope as the franchise continued.
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>>82760947
You are american, am I right?
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>>82758917
Because it's a new creation, so it can be what it wants.

When Black people are put as White people in stories where we know the character is always White that's annoying. It would be like making a Bruce Lee movie starring a White guy as Bruce.
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>>82761603
This is following the original vision though. The Matrix is all about the hope for a better future after whites are extinct.
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>>82760229
My only wish is to experience a rave like that
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>>82761444
Well, what exactly does he bring to the table that you won't find anywhere else? Charismatic is such a vague descriptor that is applied to every other actor. You're really only furthering the argument that the reason he was chosen over all those other actors is race.

And in a way that's just fine, because like all those other actors he plays the role just great. If anything he's underused in it, because it is (by design) not at all demanding of anything unique in an actor.
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>>82761312
That's not how Evolution Works you're right, but different races isn't evolution
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>>82760304
It was visible when the movie was still in the theaters bro.
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>>82761438
>I'm saying that they shouldn't be writing generic characters in the first place
Then why are you bringing up a quota system if you your only gripe is the bland characters?
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>>82761459
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Son
Jesus, I've never heard of this before

>blacks can kill as many whiteys as they want and it's not their fault because they was oppressed and shieet
>book was written 77 fucking years ago
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>>82760452
Pretty obvious when they didn't realize we bitched about the brown people orgy on the net while they were still in diapers.
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"lol they just did diverse casting of whatever actor they happened to like, there was no racial message"
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>>82761642
The protagonist is a fucking white guy.

You cretins have no self-awareness whatsoever, do you?
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>>82761683
Because that's what the fucking thread is about, and I was responding to OP's question about why people respond differently to diversity in The Matrix vs. Star Wars different. Christ.
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>>82758917
because it was a movie about a dystopian future
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>>82761768
Keanu Reeves is half Japanese, and the protagonist was meant to be Will Smith in the first place, and he dies at the end
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>>82761555
>It's about Gnosticism, not Marxism.
Except it has literally no actual references to anything Gnostic. More so to Plato, who essentially had the same kind of ideological standing as Marxism.
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>>82758917
Because the movie came out before these edgy faggots made up that meme in their safe space where they desperately fapped to BBC cuck porn
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>>82761768
He was meant to be black, Keanu was a last-minute thing
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>neo/pol/ and SJWs are now ruining classic movies with their retarded "me vs you" crap

All of you retards are fucking cancer, you're all the same, ALL OF YOU.
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>>82761756
And have them all Anglo names to boot
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>>82761804
>More so to Plato, who essentially had the same kind of ideological standing as Marxism.
Just stop.
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>>82761841
The Matrix has been coalburning shit since at least 2003, the fuck do you mean "now"
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>>82761870
Try arguing how I'm wrong
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>>82761800
>>82761824
>b-but he was meant to black
No, he was meant to be Will Smith.

If this movie was advocating white genocide, they would never have casted a white guy in the first place, 'last minute' or otherwise.

Just think critically, for once in your fucking lives.
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>>82760966
>ywn hear The Matrix OST blasting your brain in the movie theather for the first time ever.
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>>82761947
Why the fuck do you keep calling Keanu Reeves white

Do you also enjoy white actors such as Jet Li and Jackie Chan
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>>82761874

Nobody gave a fuck about that before because there are no politics in there, retard.

Both groups (SJWs and neo/pol/) are injecting non existing politics to satisfy your retarded egos.
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>mfw the end of Matrix Revolutions is literally just Buddhism 101 and it was still too complicated for American audiences and everyone shat all over it
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>>82761979
>because there are no politics in there, retard.
Are you not reading the thread at all you dense motherfucker

If the politics weren't always there, they were shoehorned in before the second one came out
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>>82761065
this bothered me as a kid. the asian slut eyeing his BBC and raising her eyebrow really put me off. I was glad when they all died.
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>>82762020

>Both groups (SJWs and neo/pol/) are injecting non existing politics to satisfy your retarded egos.
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>>82759787
Empire Strikes Back wasn't
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>>82761773
>why people respond differently to diversity in The Matrix vs. Star Wars different
At which point you bring up a quota system that you pull out of thin air, right after saying the characters were so generic that anyone could play them. So where is this quota system coming from? Could the casting people just not have wanted a black guy and a girl to be the leads?
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>>82760976
>blacked this
>projection that
>cuckin me

wow dude... leave 4chan for awhile this fecal webpage is really sucking you in. Take a walk breath some air.

Retard
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>>82762052
What fucking timeline did you assholes come from
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>all the contrarians shitting on The Matrix
Go fuck yourselves and seek attention elsewhere
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>>82761804
Ahahaha
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>>82762059
I am describing shit I was aware with viewing Matrix movies with my own eyes in 2003/2004
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>>82761101

Goddamn this one was pure kino. Better than 2nd Renaissance.
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>>82762107
>>82762151

>Both groups (SJWs and neo/pol/) are injecting non existing politics to satisfy your retarded egos.

>Both groups (SJWs and neo/pol/) are injecting non existing politics to satisfy your retarded egos.


>Both groups (SJWs and neo/pol/) are injecting non existing politics to satisfy your retarded egos.
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>>82762199
>injecting non existing politics
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It just doesn't FEEL forced.
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>>82762057
>So where is this quota system coming from?
The marketing team.

>Could the casting people just not have wanted a black guy and a girl to be the leads?
I don't understand the question. A black guy and a girl were the leads.

"This movie will be successful if we market it to the right demographics. Characters and story don't matter. Just write two generic leads, we'll get a random young woman and random young minority in there. The role doesn't require anything more specific."

vs.

"This movie will be successful because it is well-written with interesting characters, and actors cast according to the need of each individual role."
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>>82762107
>What fucking timeline...
The same fucking simulacra as you,damn memer.

Also that picture of yours depicts niggers as being feral and savage cavelords in the entire movie, totally opposite to your stupid blacked narrative of smart and sophisticated black men's society vanishing whites, If any that makes Wachosky """"""brothers""""" the most racist and predjuicial people towards browns and nigger people overall.

At least get your damn cognitive dissonance straight.
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>>82762199
What the fuck are we doing, man? I'm speaking English and providing examples and you're just copying and pasting the same sentence over and over again. We're not speaking the same godamn language.
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>>82762432
>Zion isn't depicted positively in the movies
So you've never even watched it, have you?
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>>82762457

You're just making up shit so it can fit your narrative for a movie, no matter if you're a SJW or a /pol/fag, you're even worse.
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>>82758917
>Why did no one complain about "pushing diversity" in The Matrix?
because it wasnt pushing it. it just implemented it without making a big deal out of it.
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>>82762329
>The marketing team.
That makes no sense. The marketing of this film had no overt racial signals.

>"This movie will be successful if we market it to the right demographics. Characters and story don't matter. Just write two generic leads, we'll get a random young woman and random young minority in there. The role doesn't require anything more specific."

That's not what happened at all. You're making up a scenario in your head.

>"This movie will be successful because it is well-written with interesting characters, and actors cast according to the need of each individual role."
This is a valid gripe, the characters were not interesting for the most part. And the actors were cast according to the need of each individual role, because as you stated, literally anybody could fill the roles because they were so bland.

I don't see why if you're main concern was the boring characters, that you state anyone can play, you have to invent some scenario where them casting a black guy and a girl as the leads is some conspiracy to keep the white man down
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matrix was a good movie
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>>82762545
>making shit up
Buddy did you notice all of the screencaps from the movies

Are they photoshopped
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>>82761592
200+ years is not enough, but even so, just observe the massive difference between the average American black and a straight from Africa ooga booga
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>>82762603

>muh non existent narrative

You're literal cancer.
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>>82762644
>the African running champion "breaking the program" didn't exist
>the Agents all being white didn't exist
>the Dredd Scott and Native Son references didn't exist
>Zion being 90% black didn't exist
Holy shit I've got a powerful imagination
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>>82762597
Blue guy worked extra hard securing the ice cream and making sure it works fuck me
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>>82762725

Not at all, you're just a retard.
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>>82761459
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>>82762597
The ice cream is a result of the blue guys labor, it doesn't just magically appear
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>>82762782
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>>82762770
The phrase "not an argument" gets thrown around a lot here but you haven't said a single thing in this entire thread aside from "ur stupid"

Over and over and over and over
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>>82762517
positively=/=blacked subtext

thats what Im saying, but anon keep pushing his narrative when there isn't one., at least NOT in this movie.
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>>82762818
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>>82762820

Except you are, you are using memes from /pol/ and forcing them into a simple movie with no politics to satisfy your retarded ego.

You're no different from a retard.
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>>82762586
>I don't see why if you're main concern was the boring characters, that you state anyone can play, you have to invent some scenario where them casting a black guy and a girl as the leads is some conspiracy to keep the white man down
There's nothing invented, and I don't know what this thing about keeping the white man down is, either. It has no effect on "the white man," I'm just seeing through their attempts to market to other people.

If we can both agree that the roles are bland enough that any actor can play them, surely the chances of a "minority" randomly being selected as the lead are slim, no?

When I see Morpheus played by Laurence Fishbourne, I think, hey, that makes sense. When I see John Boyega as Finn, I think, well, sure he's fine but anyone could have played the role, so what else would be their motivation for hiring this particular actor over thousands of others?
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>>82762864
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In the 90s, both guys and girls liked confident female characters and other "SJW shit"
During the 00s, after 9/11, all media got more conservative. I'm sure you all noticed that media in the 00s really wasn't nearly as FUN as it was in the 90s or 80s. Muh realism. Muh brown and bloom srs gritty. But now people are ready for less conservative media again.
Problem is nowadays there's a whole lot of young people who grew up in the conservative years and never experienced those fun decades, and to them, this rise of "the liberal menace" is a threat, something scary and new, something that will ruin all "their" games, TV shows, and movies. The majority of active anti-SJWs are actually under 20.

Don't forget, there are people on 4chan who genuinely seem to think that there was no media ever made that appealed to liberals before tumblr showed up. How they'd react to older Star Trek episodes, I'd love to know.
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>>82762914
It was useless
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>>82762837
>at least NOT in this movie
The first one? Not really. It might have been there but it was fleeting an Lawrence Fishburne was really good.

By The Animatrix, Reloaded, Revolutions? 100%. And they're stating their intention to increase it in further installments.

>>82762866
Why the fuck do you keep accusing me of getting my original 2004 vintage opinions of my first viewing of the movies from /pol/
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>>82758917
main role is a white guy, matrix did not push divercity.
force awaken main role was a girl and a black guy
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>>82758917
There wasn't any pushing. They never made a big deal about anyone being black or female. These characters just were.

And they were actual characters. They had flaws. They weren't trying to be some caricature smug Dear White People cast member or some Force Awakens Mary Sue.
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>>82762958

Because you are a retard, you're desperate for attention to satisfy your ego and you keep making up crap from memes that were made recently.

>DUDE BLACKED LMAO

You smell of underage trying to fit in.
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>>82763030
>memes that were made recently
Hey, faggot

The Wachowskis themselves intentionally put plot elements in the series from a book from 1940 claiming that all black violence against whites was justified

How much Internet racist shitposting was going on in 1940, huh
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You'd think the Matrix being released today would just infuriate liberals, not /pol/.

>white protagonist
>white love interest for protagonist
>woman's most significant storyline element is being in love with white protagonist
>everyone is a master of kung fu, but no asians despite the cultural appropriation
>epitome of white dominance Mr. Smith beating the fuck out of Morpheus and capturing him
>in fact, Neo pretty much immediately dwarfs Morpheus at everything right out the gate
>only other female character has like three scenes on screen and dies off without doing anything significant
>the ending reveals that the "One", the chosen Jesus analogue that can defeat the evil machines is a fucking white male
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>>82763079

>MUH NARRATIVE

Seek help, buddy.
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>>82758917
because lawrence fishburne had talent and presence. No one complains about Training Day either beceuse Denzel gave a top tier performance
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>>82763103
And you're calling other people underaged?
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>>82763115
they were black characters, not roles filled by black actors
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>>82763129

You're the only underage in here, retard.

You're trying way too hard.
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>>82763103
Next tell me the Wachowskis had no political narrative in this scene
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>>82763152
You're not trying at all. You're clicking reply over and over again, and saying fucking nothing. Your counterargument is "your argument is stupid" and you have not enunciated one single thought besides that.

Fuck you.
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>>82763155

>MUH POLITICS

Seek help, buddy.
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>>82759362
We only throw tantrums because it's insincere and exists only to push an agenda.
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Keanu must be very white passing if this many people in the thread think he's white.
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>>82763187

You sound mad, kid.
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>>82763103
The guy is a fucking imbecile, but you seem incapable of articulating why.
If I were you, I'd stop replying soon.
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>>82763214
That's a very astute observation and a valuable contribution to the thread
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>>82758917
First movie was ground breaking.

The second and third were absolute propaganda pushing mass diversity, sexual deviance, and godless ideology. Without the mildly entertaining action sequences, those movies were pseudo philosophical dribble with bad acting, bad story, bad dialogue --- bad everything.
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>>82763193
>>82763220

Okay, so definitely a contrarian bait poster. That resolves that.
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>>82758917

>Matrix movies after the first
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>>82763155
There was a time where I would have thought most people on 4chan would see this scene and think "nice" but now I know most of them see this scene and are thinking about the POLITICAL NARRATIVE and are worried they're being brainwashed by the liberal illuminati
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>>82763245
As opposed to anything else that was written in this thread?
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>>82763366
>a tranny getting fucked with a strapon in it's carved meat hole
>"nice"
???
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>>82763378
That Spiderman must be Spiderman
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>>82758917
Nobody cared about "muh diversity" back then. Black people have had prominent roles in blockbuster films since the 80s. It's only because they've started bitching about it nonstop in recent years that there's a backlash.
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>>82760757
I never thought of it like this. Cypher was right all along.
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>>82763366
What even happened to the original 4chan userbase?
Where did they migrate to? The entire web is saturated with this shit now, there's virtually nowhere left.
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>>82763478
offline.
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>>82763475
this guy gets it and is not an embryo
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>>82762116
Got the same version off TL.
The standard releases with that green filter are unwatchable
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>>82763502
True in some cases, but I doubt most would be able to adjust.
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>>82763478
I don't remember 4chan ever liking postop trannies
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>>82758917
Because they weren't pushing diversity, ya dingus.
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>>82762880
>I'm just seeing through their attempts to market to other people.
By other people you mean non-whites? So them having a black lead is pandering to blacks?

>If we can both agree that the roles are bland enough that any actor can play them, surely the chances of a "minority" randomly being selected as the lead are slim, no?
No. The chances depend on their auditions.

>When I see Morpheus played by Laurence Fishbourne, I think, hey, that makes sense.
Why? There's nothing in Morpheus' character personality that states he has to be a blacks man or even hints at him being black, so why is the casting of a black guy to play Morpheus any different than the casing of Boyega as Finn?
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>>82763079
> plot elements in the series from a book from 1940 claiming that all black violence against whites was justified

Source on this?
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>>82758917

Yeah I remember before the Matrix when every film had an entirely white male cast.

In TFA it was shoehorned in by JJA.

The Matrix needed trinity to add the relationship part of it and Lawrence Fishburne was just a good fit for Morpheus.
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>>82763731
http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/B1-66ER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger_Thomas
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>>82758917
remake it with a female lead and add a black guy for no reason and people will
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>>82763718
>There's nothing in Morpheus' character personality that states he has to be a blacks man or even hints at him being black
There's a lot that suggests he has to be someone like Fishbourne, specifically
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>>82761101
>having a black guy be the world's fastest runner is forcing diversity
>meanwhile, the real world's fastest runner is a black guy
/pol/ is too retarded. Can't wait to hear all about how the Jews are the real reason for Usain Bolt's success.
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>>82763961
>his athleticism helped him break the "matrix" of white privilege
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>>82763961
who do you think is jewsing him up on steroids?
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/a/ would be complaining about how it's a "shitty ripoff of Ghost In The Shell"
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>>82764051
>(((pharmaceutical companies)))
case closed
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>>82764106
Well it started as a try to do a remake of Ghost in the Shell, it still evolved into it's own thing tho.
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>>82758917
There wasn't much of an internet for everyone to complain on then.
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>>82763894
>There's a lot that suggests he has to be someone like Fishbourne, specifically
Like? I'm sure you can find a white actor that could also pull off Morpheus just the way Fishbourne did
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Most members of the "alt right" weren't born in 1999.
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>>82764302
You're right, they were born in 1998
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>>82764274
You probably could, but it wouldn't be just any white actor, the same way he's not just any black actor.

To that point his major roles were either as a tough father (Boyz n the Hood) or an understated, cool leader, which obviously marry quite nicely for his role as Morpheus in the Matrix.
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>>82764264
There was, but it was before people saw it as an obligation to voice their opinion on everything to everyone.
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>>82759180
No, but did you ever notice that only 3 main characters were white: Neo, Trinity and Smith?
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>>82759454
Or maybe Will Smith in 99' was literally TEN TIMES THE ACTOR KEANU WAS.
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>>82758917
Because believe it or not there was a time when people didn't give a shit about the diversity of a film either pushing it or being against it.
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>>82760441
It's literally the only good short. Renaissance is garbage, even if it is canon.
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>>82764419
I concur
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>>82764106
>GiTS
>not Megazone 23
fucking casuals
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I remember thinking when I saw 2 and 3 that there was an awful lot of diversity in zion. I wasn't even racist back then either, it just seemed odd when the city in the matrix was like a mostly white new york. It was also a little bit alien, cuz my own city was pretty much all white back then, and I remember trying to imagine what a city as diverse as zion would look like in real life, and I couldn't.
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>>82763777
I can see paralelism about how both bigger thomas and the robot struggled to survive in a society that considers them dissposable commodities and were very limited in their own enviroment... still this is faaaaaaaaaaar from KILL ALL WHITEYS, BLAKED IS DA WAY agenda that you keep pushing this entire thread. come on dude... also both of those characters were criminals and doing the wrong thing
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>>82760842
you watch RLM
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>>82765244
Any real city like that would have massive amounts of self segregation and violent crime, liberals think diversity is our strength, but many studies and real world results show the opposite of strength
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