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smash or pass?

http://www.newsarama.com/34434-judge-dredd-bringing-the-law-to-tv.html
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Bring Karl Urban back
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bring Stallone back
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>>82602994
If they keep the sense of humour then I'd be all over it.
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>>82604216
Oh my God, the show is going to cause so much butthurt.
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>>82604356
Not if they make it apparently that its very tongue in cheek and farcical

But real talk, I think Judge Dredd is one of the most underrated characters in all of comic books. He's been written as a hero in most stories, but there are a fair few where he's ostensibly the villain yet his character is absolutely no different in either.
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>>82604510
*apparent.
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>>82604510
>Not if they make it apparently that its very tongue in cheek and farcical

Have you been living under a rock? People throw a fit for anything these days, it doesn't matter the context.
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>>82604551
And most people don't give a shit.

It's just a vocal minority who's view get shared because they're so batshit, and who's points get written about in articles because it makes great clickbait.

Outrage fuels outrage that somone would be outraged in the first place and "news" websites laugh all the way to the bank.
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>>82602994
>smash or pass?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>82602994
they'd better cast him correctly
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>>82604216
>humour
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>>82606031
>"Committing suicide is against the law! Stop now or I'll kill you!"
>Not supposed to be humour

Judge Dredd isn't supposed to be laugh out loud funny, it's supposed to be very tongue in cheek.
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>>82603687
Stallone can't act.
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>>82606172
>Dredd isn't supposed to be laugh out loud funny
I beg to differ
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>>82606172
In fact I doubly beg to differ
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>>82606828
This was legitimately funny
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>>82606828
Kek

Not consistently then. The tongue in cheek humour is all over the world of Judge Dredd, but it's not always supposed to be laugh out loud hillarious
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Is he going to get a black android partner?
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>>82606909
lol I know, just a good excuse to post funny Dredd
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>90% of movie and now television studio budgets are being dumped into capeshit
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>>82607010
>Judge Dredd
>Capeshit

Just because it comes from a comic book, it doesn't mean it's capeshit anon.
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>>82606990
>Fare dodging
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>>82602994
Pass. Everything that made Dredd 3D so great literally can not be translated to television. The violence, the barebones easy to digest plot that lets the action and cinematography hold the reigns, the amazing soundtrack, these aren't things you can recreate in an ongoing series without a fuckhuge budget.

I don't want anything in a similar vein as the Stallone movie, and something tells me this show won't be drawing its inspiration from the comics so yeah, pass.
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Will there ever be a Dredd adaptation that remembers that it's supposed to be a satire on Modern England and the US police forces overstepping their auhority?

It seems like decades since Dredd's government hasn't been portrayed as the heroes.
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>>82607205
This one.
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>>82607010
bring back westerns
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>>82607638
Unironically this.
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>>82602994
I really, really hope they don't try to force any relevant political dialogue in there.

I can just imagine all of the insufferable trump references.
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Dredd was a really good movie, I don't understand why it isn't more popular. I hope Karl Urban is in it, he played it really well.
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>making a #_____LivesMatter the show

they are going to fuck it up
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It'll be capeshit even though Judge Dredd isn't capeshit, it'll have no sense of subtlety or be tongue in cheek, bad action, no style, horrendous political commentary, it'll be a totally bland mess that'll be praised by the nerd homogeny who lap up anything, potential minor controversy from niggers on twitter

Also
>name of the city is the name of the show

This is the laziest shit.
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>>82603015
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>>82609707
Judge Dredd has never been subtle you pretentious twat.
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>>82606990
This is pretty good
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>>82609879
How am I pretentious, you fuck? Learn to read between the lines, Judge Dredd was about a lot of stuff in its world, I know you're in it for all the cool violence and shit, but it was satire
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Only if they get Karl Urban to play Dredd again. And considering how much he loves the character, he'll probably work for peanuts.
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So where I can pirate the Dredd comics?
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>>82609301
I'm with you. This could rule. But if some Libfag with a bone to pick is writing it then we will get the current trendy whiny bitch political soap boxing.

Crossing my fingers.
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>>82604216
Expect a lot of trump jokes and references, it wouldn't surprise me if they straight up murder a trump stand in
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>>82609301
this

I'm not even a huge Trump fan, but anything political will make me instantly drop it. Fucking stop with politics in shit that doesn't need it.
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>>82609301
Dread is inherently political, it's literally an anti fascist story.
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>>82610433
It's a comic portrayal of fascism, just like the Starship Troopers movie, only re-res take it seriously.
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>>82610433
... but when you live in an age where fascists everywhere are pointing and screaming "fascist" Dredd becomes some useful political tool instead of rebellious commentary.
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>>82610240
>>82609301
Judge Dredd has ALWAYS lampooned elements of then current politics. I wouldn't want it to be too on the nose, but a jab at Trump would be par for the course, and I say that as a Trumpfag

No-one is about mockery.
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>>82610840
*above. Fucking phone.
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>>82607198
well aren't you an optimistic fella
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>>82610152
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Judge-Dredd-The-Complete-Case-Files
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>>82610433
>>82610840
It wasn't as aggressively agenda-driven as I fear it could be.

And it wasn't "antifascist" as much as it was just anti everything. If it was, it would portray most of the criminals as good.

I'm fine with political tongue-and-cheek-ness but I really hope they don't go for full on direct allegories or show clear agendas on top of a liberal fuckin soapbox.
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>>82610964
I look forward to more of your generic soapbox rants that I totally don't see in every other thread on here.
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>>82611085
Fuck you.
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>>82610951
I read this then the rest on release order?
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>>82604551
People have been throwing fits about shit since the dawn of time, it's just newfags like you who finally leave your moms basement who think "wow I must live in a unique and totally different time"
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>>82610964
>Judge Dredd wasn't anti-fascist

Everybody point and laugh at the moron because that's the fucking point of the setting.
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This is great news, if it's anything like the last movie it will be fantastic.
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>>82612358
Whatever it was, it wasn't the left wing political soapbox it's probably going to end up as.
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>>82602994
I need more information before making a decision, I need to see who's involved below the Exec Producer level.

I really hope they don't fuck it up though. If Urban stars I would absolutely give it a try, though. I really liked that sci-fi cop show he did on Fox for a little, shame it got canceled.
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>>82610840
There's ways to make fun of current politics without pushing an agenda.

I also don't think Dredd is concered with it's political themes as much as Starship Troopers is.
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>>82606926
Almost Human didn't deserve to get canceled
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>>82610964
It got started as a satirical response to an increasingly authoritarian British society in the lead up to the Thatcher years. It sure as hell wasn't anti-anti-fascist.
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>>82609510
FATTIE LIVES MATTER
ROBOT LIVES MATTER
MUTANT LIVES MATTER
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>>82612475
I think we are getting into a quagmire here since according to some other posters you might notice around here, being anti-fascist and being a frothing murderous liberal are one and the same. So if it stays true to the original political ideas and themes we are still bound to see a lot of threads about it being a liberal soapbox, but it's more the fault of the times than the material.
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>>82614082
The last one is kind of true though. Even Dredd comes around to the idea that shitting on Muties isn't AOK post Origins when he learns about Fargoville
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>>82614294
People who call themselves anti-fascists are throthing, murderous "liberals". By liberal I of course mean literal communists who have co-opted the term liberal.
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It should be so simple.

>Season 1: Mostly Dredd/Anderson vs some mid tier solo villain. Armon Gill would work as it gives Hershey something to do.

>Season 2: The angel gang. Introduce a couple of extra side judges.

>Season 3: Judge Death after some foreshadowing in the first 2 seasons

>Season 4: Rico

>Season 5: Dark Judges

We all know what we'll get though.
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Needs Karl at the helm. Guy was a perfect Dredd.

Here's hoping for a non shit Dredd series on either Netflix or hbo.
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>>82610943
>optimistic
>trusting Hollywood and tv writers to not ruin everything they touch

it's just being realistic mate.
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>>82614630
> no Robot Wars
> no Cursed Earth
> no Apocalypse War

Come on now.
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Oh hey, I just watched the 90s Dredd movie a few hours ago.

Man, I should try to get into the comics.
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>>82614630
>We all know what we'll get though.

Episode 1: Love interest introduced for Dredd

Episode 2: Dredd transitions into a Woman

Episode 3: In a fucking incredible twist Dredds love interest was actually a boy all along and we have come full circle

Episode 4: The boy was Dredds brother

And so on, don't get your hopes up boys, I love me some JD but nothing ever pans out to be good.

Aside from the two movies being really good in their own ways.
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>>82614948
You can stop inventing outrage any time
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>>82606950
Which Dredd storylines / versions are the best?
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>>82614997
Obviously exaggerating having a little tasteless fun, do you personally think it will capture the same spirit as the comics?.
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its gonna lose its satirical edge just like what happened to Preacher
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>>82602994
Most likely will be a pass

For it too be a smash it needs a damn good Dredd who will not take his helmet off ever or fall in love or any soppy bullshit - Karl Urban is prime Dredd.

It needs to be offensive, it does offend everyone no matter where you come from.

Needs to be bloody and gory.

Deadpan humor, Dredd does quip but not always and sometimes he does something which is just funny but not to him because he is carrying out the law.

Atmosphere and the correct background characters.

The film was good, it did have it all mostly but i do think that a episode format would work well.
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>>82614918
buy all the omnibuses
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>>82602994
I'm really looking forward to this.
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>>82606950
this strange almost ironic
good ol´judge strike me as a weird version of bugs
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>>82614918
You really should. Call me a shill or whatever, but Judge Dredd is criminally underrated, even amongst people who actually read comics.

I'd start with either Origins or America. The Day the Law Died, Cursed Earth Saga, Dark Judges or Robot Wars if you want to go back to some earlier GOAT tier stories
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>>82615076
How do you start reading the comics? I started from the very beginning, I think '77 and they're very boring.
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>>82610203
>implying Trump analog won't be a judge
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>>82610203
>Expect a lot of trump jokes and references
All they have to do is introduce Judge Cal
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>>82615715
not him, but thanks for those recommendations. I wanted to get into it but didn't know from where begin
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>>82616118
Most people say to start with Case Files 02. That's when the series has it's footing etc.
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>>82616203
This. They wouldn't even have to change anything from the OG comic and the autists who can't stand to see anything that even remotely might disparage their God Emperor will cry about it on here because
>Hurr it's totally a reference to trump you Shareblue cuck
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>>82616269
Yeah, that's actually what I just decided to do. I looked at Case Files 01 and said "fuck this" after the first few stories. I'm going to try Case Files 02 now.
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>>82616439
Read America and/or Origins.

After that go where you want
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>>82616439
I advise you read Robot Wars. It's in Case Files 1 and is a cornerstone of the Judge Dredd lore. Also for fun's sake maybe near the end of Case Files 01 there's a story of Judge Dredd being a sheriff on the moon. It goes into the rivalry between America and The Sovs (the soviets)
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>>82614918
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>>82616889
Judge Dredd: Mega-City Two is a good recent one-off. You should add it to the pic. It's Judge Dredd serving in west coast mega-city and it has that fish out of water aspect as he gets used to their pussy liberal teddybear guns, hollywood, etc.
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>>82616985
Is Mega-City two just the polar opposite of MC1, right down to the type of criminals?
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http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/10/judge-dredd-tv-show/

More.
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>>82617070
Sort of.
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>>82617070
The selling point of the book is that Mega-City 2 operates entirely differently. It makes fun of reality tv, WarnerBrothers/Disney owns a chunk of the city, it's been a while I can't remember too much.
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>>82617460
meant to post this
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>>82617346
>Attached as executive producers of the new show are IM Global Television president Mark Stern, who developed Battlestar Galactica, Helix, and Defiance at Syfy
Defiance was a godawful show. I don't have much faith in this.
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>>82606990
hands up, dont shoot
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>>82602994
It's not going to be good. The movie was great as an action flick but the fact that it was a Judge Dredd movie was absolutely irrelevant and immaterial because the single most important character in Judge Dredd is Mega-City One and that character was entirely absent from Dredd. Meg-One is a place where intelligent monkeys form street gangs, where the morbidly obese participate in underground eating contests, where mutants and monsters live in the sewers, where the rich pay exorbantly to become fashionably ugly, where the city government operates space colonies and where designer drugs are made from the glands of aliens. It's bizarre and dangerous place. That city was not in the movie. Instead, we got another generic urban dystopia where all of the criminals are gang-bangers with bad haircuts that are still using fucking Hi-points instead of plasma pistols.
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>>82615515
Omnibi
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>>82606990
post the rest PLZ bro plz
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>>82602994
I might watch if they do an episode with Sensitive Klegg.
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>>82619665
>That blunderbuss
>That kid with the gun in the pushchair

Dredd is so underrated
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>>82609301
They had a parody of that UK Brexit guy recently.
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>>82612358
Judge Dredd was first and foremost about entertainment. What for example did killing zombies on Judgement day have to do with fascism? Nothing. JD is just a snap shot into a distopian future, but it doesn't really comment on that future one way or the other. It just shows it to you on a plate with all of its morbid obscenities and says "Here, you go... Now eat it!" And for some reason, don't ask me why, you do and you learn to like that taste, because you're a fucking cuck and you know it.
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>>82619897
People are retarded.
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>>82609467
'merkins can't into satire and black humour at the same time. It's taken us nearly a century just to get them comfortable with satire alone.

Best not to ask about the higher concepts.
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So long as they get a blonde hottie to play Anderson I'll be happy.
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This is about as SJW as Dredd gets.
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>>82602994
Cast Karl Urban again and it will be 10/10 kino. He had no problem doing Almost Human, where he plays a futuristic space cop. I can't see any reason why he wouldn't Dredd.
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Trouble being on occasion any Dredd series will need to do something that will require a decent budget. It can't all be low budget settings inside city blocks,
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>>82602994
Personally I rather see this as a cartoon.

But the idea to make the show more about the city is genius.
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>>82623819
Mega City One really has been the main character in the comics. Dredd's just the most often used lens to view it through.
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>>82615715
>>82616225
Start at Complete Cases Files 1 and work your way from there.

Great series. Looking forward to them adapting other Mega City One stories too.
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>>82623902
And it allows them to tell so much more than just the small old Dredd stuff.
Also no thanks to Urban as Dredd. I want a diff actor for a diff iteration. I'd like more comedy. Just no Stallone garbage.
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Its gonna be horrible.

You can't do the future without making the sets. Reusing existing city blocks like Almost Human is a dogshit way to make a 'future' scifi.

Also fuck Canada.
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