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In really violent and disturbing horror/thriller movies, where

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In really violent and disturbing horror/thriller movies, where is the line drawn between artistic purpose and tasteless exploitation?

Do you even care about such a question and I'm a fag?
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>>82600709
The line is drawn between actually incorporating the violence in a way that flows with the movie, and just throwing shit in for the sake of MUH VIOLENCE

Look at Serbian Film for a good example of tasteless useless muh violence shit.
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Just send it to me and I'll tell you
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>>82600709
If I google a movie that I know has a violent/brutal death scene and the first autocomplete suggestion is "[movie] death scene", it's probably tasteless exploitation
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when it's gratuitous and becomes violence porn and just there for shock value. the extreme violence and disturbing shit has to serve a meaningful purpose in the narrative and characterization
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>>82600709
lots of good answers here but also listening to what directors say about violence gives you an idea of whether it was just for fun or if they meant sth by this.

As a fanboy the examples I'd give you are Gaspar NoƩ and pic related by Julia Ducournau
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artistic purpose is trying to say or do something other than make you vomit.

the guy who made human centipede's original intention was basically to make a "dude, wouldn't it be fucked up if..." scenario play out. pure exploitation with no redeeming virtues.

the world is already a disgusting and violent place. claiming that is your "message" is usually a weak cover for exploitation.
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it's not the nature of the violence itself but it's context within the film and its relation to themes and the narrative and whether it contributes to communicating these.

>>82601410
I thought this was great, antichrist is another good example.
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>>82600709
Gore is bad and wrong. People might start to glorify this shit and want to see if they can repeat it.
>i loved that bit where he put a girl in a torture chamber room and she slit her wrists on accident
disgusting.
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The line is drawn at purpose. If its excessively violent, and its made to show how TWISTED the villain is, or to show some characterization, like how a grusome act changes the character, then its okay.
If there isnt a point to it other than to have the audience go "oh wow thats violent" then its pointless and it doesnt need to be done.
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>>82601560
there are many, Haneke as well...
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