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According to Martin Scorsese, ‘younger people’ just don’t

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>“Cinema is gone,” Scorsese says. “The cinema I grew up with and that I’m making, it’s gone.”

>“The theatre will always be there for that communal experience, there’s no doubt. But what kind of experience is it going to be?” he continues. “Is it always going to be a theme-park movie? I sound like an old man, which I am. The big screen for us in the ’50s, you go from Westerns to Lawrence of Arabia to the special experience of 2001 in 1968. The experience of seeing Vertigo and The Searchers in VistaVision.”

>Scorsese points to the proliferation of images and the over-reliance on superficial techniques as trends that have diminished the power of cinema to younger audiences. “It should matter to your life,” he says. “Unfortunately the latest generations don’t know that it mattered so much.”

>Since the election of Donald Trump, some have expressed hope for a return to the kind of ’70s filmmaking Scorsese is synonymous with.

>“If the younger people have something to say and they find a way to say it through visual means as well as literary, there’s the new cinema,” says Scorsese. But the current climate reminds him more of the ’50s of his youth. “I’m worried about double-think or triple-think, which is make-you-believe you have the freedom, but they can make it very difficult to get the picture shown, to get it made, ruin reputations. It’s happened before.”

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/arts/movies/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/arts/movies/cinema-is-gone-according-to-martin-scorsese-younger-people-just-dont-understand
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You just have to watch European art house. Hollywood is over.
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>>82599031
Multiplexes are killing small cinemas in Europe
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>>82599031
Marvel/Disney should just buy Hollywood and quip it up to 11
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>>Since the election of Donald Trump, some have expressed hope for a return to the kind of ’70s filmmaking Scorsese is synonymous with.

I agree with Scorsese and hate the blockbuster films

And I loath Trump

But that line made no sense whatsoever there is no connection
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>old man says todays generation doesn't understand

And history repeats itself
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Blame the jews, Martin.
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>>82599132

Maybe they mean "movies that trigger attempted assassinations of the president"
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>>82599132

But Trump is to blame for everything!

It has nothing to do with safe, flashy CGI-movies making the big bucks over in China
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>>82598993
>"My success was based on a pure love and understanding of the art. I would have been successful regardless of the fact I coasted on Deniro's coattails until people thought of me as a genius"

Most overrated director of all time.

>Muh italians!
>Muh gangsters!
>Muh interchangeable exposition voiceovers done by an italian playing a gangster!
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Were kids into kino in the old days? It seems to me it's something you develop over time. The older I get, the less I care for Marvel/Fast and furious or whatever's hip.
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>t. director who hasn't made a single good movie since Bringing Out the Dead
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>>82599189
so movies centered around extremely hot lolis?
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>>82599132
I agree: it has no connection and we must KILL DRUMPHF!
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>>82599205
>It has nothing to do with safe, flashy CGI-movies making the big bucks over in China

Trump is the personification of heartless money-grabbing production line media
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>>82599159
He Is complaining about capeshit and he is right.
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>>82599259
>he doesn't like comfy mob movies

i bet your a faggot or a women of some kind

>>82599487
>bringing out the dead

literally one of his worst modern flicks. He just released his modern masterpiece but you faggots are too thick for it
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>>82599159
this is something not only old men are worried about
in a few years disney will buy america and everything will be run by PC disney
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everything is le drumpfz fault, including Scorsese and the rest doing the same old sell-out shit with their circle jerk clique of buddies.

its not the hack directors fault!!

look at the child molester Spielberg, he went from E.T., to Jurassic park, to Indiana Jones 4 and war of the worlds.

that was trumps fault too.
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>>82600001
Silence was shit as a movie about religion, politics, as a Scorsese movie, and a film overall. It lacked any sort of new insight or edge to it. Bergman did the whole "God, why do you not speak to me?" shtick better years ago.

Millenial "film buff" critics and consumers praise it because it's not your run of the mill movie nowadays, but the subject's already been explored and better. And Scorsese has made far better movies, none of which were made in the 21st century.
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>>82600324
>Bergman did the whole "God, why do you not speak to me?" shtick better years ago.
>shtick

Calling Winter Light "shtick" should get you banned.
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I just don't watch movies to broaden my horizons or think about things in a new way or to feel feelings. I watch them to laugh, or maybe admire and marvel at a competent guy doing a good job.
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>>82598993
This is not a problem with the movie goer, but more with the movie industry. BUT, you vote with your wallet and people vote in droves.

Some of my favorite films fucking tanked at the box office; yet it comes up all the time in modern releases.
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>>82600575
>>Calling Winter Light "shtick" should get you banned.
remember where you are, anon.
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>>82598993
I knew it, movies suck because of Drumpf.
Fuck white people.
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>>82600324
>someone did it "better" 70 years ago so no one better not try again

Silence is a masterpiece
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>>82601133
Digits confirm. Haters have shit taste.
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>>82601133
a masterpiece of shit with no original ideas
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>>82598993
>it's another cherry pick classics from the past and blast everything being released today episode

Granted, the advent of "cinematic" universes and blockbusters marginalizing mid-level art house films is concerning, but acting like nothing of value is released now compared to the past is just so ignorant.
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>>82598993
Really makes you think, though. This isn't simply a dime-a-dozen case of "old guy bitching about young people." Notice Scorsese, for as long as he's been around, hadn't felt the need to sat anything like this until now, which is a clear indicator that there really is something wrong and irreparably stunted about latter-day Millennials. I'v been finding more redeeming qualities in fucking Gen Z kids than most Millennials, probably because they're all looking at Millmills like "wow i really don't want to be like THAT!!"


Really makes you ponder. It's also pretty ironic that Millennials are like this overtly socioconservative group in their need to want to police and nitpick every fucking thing in existence, yet they mostly consider themselves """"Liberal."""" The word has no meaning whatsoever anymore, when it comes to Millennials. Just because you fucking losers are constantly fucking each other in the ass (because you're so godless and soulless you've even forgot how to fuck correctly, and are obsessed with fucking the butthole,) doesn't make you "liberal." You're like some mutant offshoot of 50's mentality, that the rest of us have to fucking hear about every day thanks to the internet.
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from those greentext i can only surmise that he thinks the films shown in theaters are becoming more and more cash grabs instead of art which is only normal seeing movies are an industry now more than ever. There are still a lot of independent shit coming out and sometimes big time directors will do passion projects.
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>>82601376
I think he thinks the only way you'll know about a movie is if you see it on the marquee walking down a boulevard.
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>>82601209
>muh originality

theres no such thing as an original idea you shitlord, everything is recycled, every story has already been told, grow the fuck up. there are no new stories to tell just new ways to tell them. Like Silence.
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>>82600994
>Yostuba B
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>>82599031
>art house
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>>82598993
Tell filmakers to create another Lawrence of Arabia or another Barry Lyndon then.
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>>82598993
I don't disagree, but you can't argue with the tide.
I think were going to see a big shift in cinema within our lives when the big studios implode and the advent of a less centralized production and distribution model thanks to the internet.
Look at the big tent pole movies from the studios for that. They spend so much money on these objectively shitty movies that if they don't break a billion its considered a flop. That isn't something that can last indefinitely.
Nothing that can't last forever, does. Just vote with your wallet is all the individual consumer can do.
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>>82600994
Hey I see my Roos Bolton /got/ thread, above 4 on the right
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>>82601448
>muh "everything's been done before XD XD XD" meme

>implying this isn't just some massive excuse for you to continue to be lazy

No wonder you all suck
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>>82601448

thats like arguing that every story had been told three centuries ago within fairy tales and folk law
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>>82599132
>>82599205
>>82599259
>>82600001
>>82600258
>>82601681
reddit
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>>82601133
>its a movie set in japan made by a guido hack from nyc is superior episode
>>82601764
>le_rebbit man.jpg
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>>82600001
>not liking bringing out the dead

Fucking pleb
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>>82601182

Inshallah
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>>82601833
Where can I find more mudslime tv memes?
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>>82598993
What is it he's trying to say exactly? What's he expecting from filmmakers? Because the idea that there's NO good films whatsoever being made today is ridiculous.
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>>82599132
They basically mean that like in the 70s there was a lot of anti-war films, there should be a lot of anti-Trump films now. Propaganda, basically.
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>>82598993

He is right, but it's also in part due to us living in a different world.

People have less patience, fuck I often find myself surfing the web while I watch stuff at home these days, and when people go to the movies it seems they just want to be entertained in a way that doesn't tax their brains in the least, probably because they are texting.

So the only really profitable movies today are the blockbusters, and since the budgets are ever growing, the risk taking is continously becoming smaller, leading to tried-and-tested formulas, which today typically means 'capeshit action with quips', or Disney remaking every animated classic in a live/cgi setting.

Movies telling an interesting story is probably over, series on cable tv/Netflix is where you go for that kind of experience (and I think it's probably a better medium for it, even though you don't get the BIG SCREEN).
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>>82601886

You shut your whore mouth, albanian dog.
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>>82601944
>>82601833
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>>82601999
PBUH
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>>82601886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCvMMSTOl4Q

kino
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Scorsese did two actual films, some okay flicks and then three decades of shit music videos.

Kaurismäki was right and the one with the fedora should just retire.
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>>82598993
>Since the election of Donald Trump, some have expressed hope for a return to the kind of ’70s filmmaking Scorsese is synonymous with.
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>>82601999
>>82602011


Allahu Akbar!
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>>82601209
Name one (1) original idea from the past 50 years.
You literally can't.
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>>82601624
Hello Steven! Or is it George?
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>>82602139
Dogville.
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>>82602139
4chan and baneposting
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>>82602139
I, Daniel Blake
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Hollywood is over, quality programming has moved over to television and online with HBO and Netflix, which is a better medium for it. Stories no longer have to be confined to a 2-3 hour movie, but can be expanded into 8-10 hours over the course of a season. Shows like the Young Pope are proving that television is where it's at.
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>>82601803
>its a movie set in swedeland made by a swedeshit 65 years ago is superior episode
>these movies share a theme and some ideas so that means they're 1:1 what a fucking hack Scorsese

Bergman is overrated, don't take everything your Cinemacuck 101 professor says at face value
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>>82602186
>HBO
>Netflix
>quality programming

good one faggot. FX is the only network bringing the noise. HBO has fallen apart and Netflix was never good always garbage low brow pandering tier shit
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>>82599132
Basically means making a film with a purpose, a purpose being something in your life that you feel is important and worthy making a film of.
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He hasn't made a good movie for DECADES
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>>82602235
Wolf of Wall Street was bretty gud. Not great, especially by his standards, but pretty good.
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>>82598993
If thinking Silence was a huge piece of shit is 'not understanding' then I will gladly put myself in that bucket.
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>>82599182
Fuck off.
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Lawrence of Arabia sucks!!
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>>82599182
wrong board
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>He insists no director has made a masterpiece since the 1970s. What about Scorsese? He snorts, and glugs. "Goodfellas is bullshit. It is the lousiest film ever, ever made. After Raging Bull, he was a lousy amateur." Terrence Malick? "The first one [Badlands] was OK. That was in the 1970s. After that they were Christian bullshit."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2suTdb6AvJ0
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>Since the election of Donald Trump, some have expressed hope for a return to the kind of ’70s filmmaking Scorsese is synonymous with.

what does trump have to do with any of this
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>>82602235
>The Departed
>The Wolf of Wall Street
>Silence
He's the only Hollywood director from the 60s-70s who's still making great films.
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>>82602376
American journos are retarded, that's what. The butthurt on both sides is enough to create a black hole
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>>82602418
Be more subtle in your b8 next time cocksucker.
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He's just butthurt people think Silence sucked which is kinda sorta true desu.

Some of it did indeed suck, I mean come on, Marty supposedly wanted to make this movie for 30 years and he casts Adam Driver of all people.
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>>82602452
You're the cocksucker if you think all of his recent work is shit.
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>>82602479
Never said that, but those are easily his weakest films in the past 20 years.
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>>82602454
>get Rob Roy
>get Julius Caesar
>Get Genghis Khan
>match them with the raging autist from TFA and Hairproduct Spiderman

What the fuck
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>>82602507
>implying those films are weaker than Shutter Island and Hugo
Wew lad
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>>82598993
You helped to kill it desu.
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>>82602553
Fuck off, both are better than Hefarted and Japmission. Aviator is weakest tho.
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>>82602354
He's based as fuck, and he's sort of right about the "no masterpiece made since the 1970s"
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>>82600001
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>>82602612
his weakest is bringing out the dead by far
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>>82602139
Prospero's Books
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>>82602418

>Silence
>good

Spotted the faggot pleb. That movie is awful.
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>>82602772
I WILL FIGHT YOU MOTHER FUCKER
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>>82602810
You probably cant even explain yourself
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>>82602612
Nah, Shutter Island is fairly meh. It isn't bad movie but it also isn't anything particularly special or memorable.
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>>82602847
Haven't watched it since it was out in cinema so I won't argue about it. He's been out of form for a while now, that's for sure
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>>82602831
the only person i know who unironically enjoys that shit flick is an EMT who gets off on the job
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>>82602838

Funny how every silence shill resorts to "b-but you can't say WHY it sucked" or "y-you just didn't get it" to defend that shitty flop movie
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>>82602952
Funny how no one can say why they didn't like it aside form "i-i-it sucked!" or "it w-was bad, it just was!" or "le atheist fedora meme xD"
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>>82602108
>>82602354
>>82602729
He's a drunk idiot who has never made a decent film. If his films were even half as provocative as his retarded comments in the media, he might actually have been relevant at some point.

He's the guy who says we should kill the 1% while he himself is a millionaire with a fucking vineyard in Portugal.
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>>82602952
Funny how everyone who hates Silence just says "IT SUCKED" or "IT WAS TOO SLOW".
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>>82599132

>He doesn't realize the timeline BT - Before Trump and AT - After Trump
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>>82602354
Irrelevant hack.
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>>82603047
Even when joking he's more of an artist than Scorsese.

Pretty much all of his films are better than anything from Scorsese aside from Taxi Driver and Raging Bull. Malick has never made better film than Kaurismäki.
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>>82602729
>Raging Bull
>The King of Comedy
>After Hours
>Goodfellas
>Casino
>"no masterpiece made since the 1970s"
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>>82603047
>if you could make a movie what themes would you use
>the sadness in peoples eyes

jesus christ what a pretentious fucking hack
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>>82602952
Silence was fucking great though
it was a rare artistic film that took itself seriously, used top actors and had an incredible score and cinematography.
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>>82603156
>Malick has never made better film than Kaurismäki.
The Thin Red Line
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>>82602230
>Basically means making a film with a purpose, a purpose being something in your life that you feel is important and worthy making a film of

White cishetmen are not allowed to have purpose in their lives anymore. We've all seen what damage they can do with purpose. They need to STFU and let women, POCs, and the LGBTQIA communities have a voice. Meaningful filmmaking is simply an exercise in privilege, the true task at hand is to use progressive-stack techniques to ensure more diverse narratives.

t. half-ironic person
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>>82603186
nevermind that it was simplistic as fuck in what it set out to do and some of these folks are implying its too deep and tryhard and convoluted
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>>82603164
Those aren't masterpieces you fucking normie pleb
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>>82603202
Good flick but no.
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>>82603222
Raging Bull is a 10/10 masterpiece.
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>>82603222
>Raging Bull
>Casino
>After Hours
>not masterpieces

the assertion is that he is the only filmmaker left from the golden age of new hollywood who is still working and making flicks. Scorsese is definitely still making masterpieces stop trying to be post-ironic we don't hand out likes and upboats and gold stars here for your contrarian opinions lady boy
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>>82603156
>Malick has never made better film than Kaurismäki.
Explain yourself. How is he better than Malick?
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>>82601182
Islam confirmed for a sham
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>>82603289
How is he not? Easily at least four better films than Malick.
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>>82601886
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>>82603335
You brought up Malick in the first place, the burden of proof rests on you. Explain how Aki is better than Malick.
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>>82603351
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>>82603264
Raging Bull is the only one that is even in consideration. Casino is an overrated music video and After Hours is an ok flick at best.
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>all these buttblasted redditors ITT whining because Scorsese said le meanie things about their capeshit crap

TOP KEK
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>>82603381
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>>82603312
shut up infadel.
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>>82603404
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>>82603372
Kaurismäki brought up Malick. I don't honestly see how it is even a comparison how Kaurismäki is better.
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>>82598993
He´s damn right, just right. I believe mainly he's talking about people who considers Nolan and Refn geniuses. To a lesser extent, he refers to comic book fans.
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>>82603459
>I believe mainly he's talking about people who considers Nolan and Refn geniuses.
>Bothering to bring up Nolan or Refn when we are getting Transformers 5 and Furious 8
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>>82603584

Anything made by Nolan and Refn is on the same level as Transformers 5 and Furious 8, retard.
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>>82603615
Shitposting is getting esoteric lately.
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>>82603459
>To a lesser extent, he refers to comic book fans.
Anything Nolan has ever done is two leagues above capeshit, except Nolan's capeshit which is only one league above the rest of capeshit
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>>82603640

You do realize that Scorsese is talking about retards like you, right?
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>>82599259
Yeah, Raging Bull is exactly the same as Hugo.
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>>82603615
>>82603685
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>>82603615
this tbqh
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>>82598993
"Capeshit" needs to burn, nowadays capeshit stopped being exclusively superhero flicks.
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>Millennials are at fault that Boomers and Gen Xers are peddling creatively bankrupt garbage!

wew

just wew
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>>82598993
who gives a fuck about him?
he hasn't ever contributed a movie to cinema that wasn't utterly formulaic and generic, only thing he should have credit for is basically spawning the shit movie formula
cunt
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>>82603615
tastiest shitpost I've seen all week
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>>82598993
>According to Martin Scorsese, ‘younger people’ just don’t understand

He makes a lot of great points here. Too bad the title of the article is basically just millennial rage-bait.
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>>82603402
>this kills the faggot

the chirping stopped after this post, too on the nose for some of the kiddieboys itt?
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There are no bergmans fellinis ozu's antonioni's as far as I'm aware nowadays who hold the same power they did in their time.

We have our own "greats" but the psychological and social implications of movies have gone out the window largely in favor of something much more flashy or simplified.

The new generation doesn't have the brains that the last ones did to carry the torch of the same intellectual footing as the ones of the 20th century.
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>>82603698
>>82603748

Bac.k to Reddit, kiddos.
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>>82598993
Old pretentious faggot that just needs to die.
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>>82603615
>>82603717
>The Pusher trilogy
>Bronson
>Valhalla Rising
>Fear X
>Bleeder
>"on the same level as Transformers 5 and Furious 8"
Just admit you only hate Refn because Drive turned him into a meme. You would probably like him if he hadn't broken into the mainstream.
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>>82603615
Drive and Dark Knight are memed to death, but those movies and most of the stuff the directors made before them were actually pretty good. I will say Only God Forgives is thousands of tiers worse than Transformers though, and I'm pretty sure TDKR is too, though it's hard to make an objective judgment about that movie when I can't sit through the opening scene without cracking up
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>>82602354

He's kind of right. Star Wars and Jaws became the turning point where studios realized infantile children's tales make way more money.
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>>82603827
refns only good film was bronson, nolan has talent i will say that. but in regards to autism levels refn and bay are on par with each other.
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>>82603584
and
>>82603657

Movies like Transformers and FF are pure shit, but Nolan and Refn are considered good filmmakers when they are not. And the do more harm than people like Michael Bay because everyone knows that Bay is a bad director.
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>>82603865
The plane scene is more entertaining than all of the Transformers movies put together so I would say TDKR is better than them.
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>>82603928
>Refn
>considered good filmmaker
Depends on who you talk to. You seem to think he's a universally celebrated director but the reality is he's extremely divisive amongst critics and normies have never heard of him. He's loved on /tv/ but that's it. Drive is his only film that was a massive critical and commercial success, both Only God Forgives and The Neon Demon were ripped apart by critics.
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>>82603928
THIS.
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>>82603184
I assume he's drank about 30 beers. Do that.
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>>82604020
Almost forgot to mention that The Neon Demon flopped hard at the box office and no one in America had heard of Refn until Drive. People who think Refn is overrated need to spend less time on /tv/.
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Swear the idiots of /tv/ just say something is garbage because it doesnt meet their limited standards of filmmaking. Saying Refn and Nolan films are on the same level as Furious 8 and Transforners 5 is some next level phillistine ignorance.
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>>82603929
TDKR is memed a lot but it's a decent action movie, probably in the 90s would have gone unnoticed but in the world of Guardians of the Galaxy being movie of the year for some critics, TDKR really stands out. It's capeshit but in a different league
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>>82604021
See
>>82604020
>>82604062
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>>82604073

You sound mad, Reddit.

Can you please fuck off back to your shithole?
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>>82603929
You know what, good point
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>>82604062
from what i remember it got an almost 50/50 split on RT, surprising a lot of cucks love it. so no.
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>>82604117
A 50/50 split isn't good. Plus it flopped at the box office.
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>>82604105
>buzzword namecalling to hide the fact hes a phillistine
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>>82604096
see
>>82604117
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>>82604062
Openly booed at Cannes. I wish I could've been there to see people trolled hard by the end sequence.
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>>82604156
it means it wasnt "universally panned" tho.
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>>82604157

>says the retard that consider Refn and FUCKING NOLAN on a different level from Furious 8 and Transforners 5

Your level of idiocy and ignorance is astounding to be honest...
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>>82604117
50% is a shitty score, any given capeshit gets 80% as long it has quips and competent editing
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>>82604117
The real fucking freaks and weirdos crawled out of the woodworks to show their power level when the Neon Demon came out. That movie seemed to attract the most retarded pseudo-intellectuals on earth to obsessively wank over any image of a triangle or animal searching for deep hidden meaning
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>>82604196
i heard it was loved at cannes?! i guess the independant review was lying, they do that a lot.
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>>82603766
Wrong, auteurs still exist and will continue to exist

Béla Tarr, Šarūnas Bartas, Philippe Grandrieux, Michael Haneke, Lars von Trier, Abbas Kiarostami, Edward Yang, David Lynch, Jim Jarmusch, Wong Kar-Wai, Mike Leigh, Alexei Balabanov, Tsai Ming-liang, Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Lav Diaz, Pedro Costa, James Benning are just few of the auteurs living today
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>>82604218
ok

>>82604223
fucking hell THIS, i remember reading some of the positive reviews i have never cringed so hard a lot of them sounded like the next ted bundy.
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>>82604207
They are on a different level though, from technical and narrative standpoint though. Nolan even more so
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>>82604207
Yes they are on a different level from the execution of the script to tell a coherent and nuanced largely visual storytelling to the acting and everything else. You must be a specially art-aversed moron to consider them on the same league.
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>>82604334

Your trolling is weak, nobody can be this stupid.

Just fuck off already.
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>>82604334
>>82604365

>MUH MEMES
>LE BIG GUY XDDDD

This is why nobody likes you, Reddit.

You're just trying too hard to fit in.
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>>82599596
Upvoted :)
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Actually you're completely wrong, retard. Scorsese is a fan of Nolan.

>The film I made when I was eleven, was a super production! (Laughs.) But at that time, they were co-existent, now I don’t feel that’s the case.The big productions of Chris Nolan for example, they combine both: an incredible mind and beautifully made films on a big scale, so
it is possible, there is room.
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>>82604410
Ive literally never been to reddit, stop hiding behind this boards dislike of reddit and elucidate why you think they are om the same league. Maybe youre just shitposting and baiting.
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>>82604379
>>82604410
Good arguments Reddit, you'll sure fit in here in a frew weeks
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>>82604237
Stop reading The Independent.
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>>82604464

>I'm le oldfag :( pls taek me seriousli

Just fuck off already, retard.
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>>82604444
Contrarians ITT
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
No need to ask, we all know they will never recover
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>>82604468

>says the buttmad redditor that seriously consider Nolan and Refn on a different level from Furious 8 and Transforners 5

Nobody can take you seriously after that.
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>>82598993
>the over-reliance on superficial techniques as trends that have diminished the power of cinema to younger audiences

>The experience of seeing Vertigo and The Searchers in VistaVision
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>>82604444
>Scorsese is a fan of Nolan.
As it should be, Nolan's a good director. Not a game changer obviously, but compared to Bay or any capeshit director he's fucking Hitchcock
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>>82604509

>only source is NolanFans.com and some random website
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>>82604548
Then I guess Scorsese is a buttmad Redditor who loves Transformers and Furious 8 since he considers Nolan a great filmmaker.
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>>82604285

Yes exactly they're all older, from the last generation. And while they still exist, for the most part their films are too far removed from the mainstream audience to cause a shock in the industry often times.
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>>82604598
Its from this interview you absolute moron:

https://filmtalk.org/2015/10/26/martin-scorsese-theres-always-the-budget-but-i-am-more-concerned-about-the-creative-freedom/
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>>82604603

>only source is NolanFans.com and some random website

What now, Reddit?
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>>82604598
B L O W N
L
O
W
N

T H E
H
E

F U C K
U
C
K

O U T
U
T
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>>82604651

>some random website

UH OH, REDDIT IS GETTING MAD
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>>82599031
>european art house
is there any that's not lefty trash?
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>>82604701
So now that you have completely made an ass of yourself, what's next in your career as an objectively wrong contrarian faggot?
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>>82598993
>old man yells at cloud
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>>82601670
/got/ fags are cancer as expected
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>>82604722
No
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>>82598993
Yea I think he's right. Most viewers just don't understand anything that isn't explicitly told to them visually.
They can have a meticulously crafted scene right in front of their eyes and they'll only care about "the story".

And how the fuck is Donald Trump even related?
>>
i blame star wars
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>>82598993
>you go from Westerns to Lawrence of Arabia to the special experience of 2001 in 1968. The experience of seeing Vertigo and The Searchers in VistaVision.”
what a dumbass, there were shitty movies during that time too
>muh cherry picking
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>>82604499
that's not an argument mate, kek
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>>82604745

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

THIS STUPID REDDITOR IS BUTTFURIOUS


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>82599132
*loathe
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>>82604701
>Reddit spacing
>writing in caps after getting told
>still keeps posting
Whatever happened to decency?
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>>82599259
Hey take that back immediately
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>>82604778
Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back were still very well made films. But I think people took the wrong things from them. So much of this shit nowadays is function-over-form for the sake of action.
Stuff like Bourne Identity and Civil War are practically fucking documentaries with how they're shot.
>>
>All this contrarian shitposting and memespouting faggotry
Just shut down /tv/ if this is the level of discourse its able to have about the state of the industry.
Capeshit watching children.
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>>82601999
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>>82604828
>tricking redditors into thinking 4chan spacing is reddit spacing

Stop it. I know you think it's a joke, but redditors will take it 100% seriously.
>>
>>82604874
Do you have no pride? Do you enjoy being laughed at by strangers in internet?
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>>82605006

>I'm le oldfag :( pls taek me seriousli
>I'm le oldfag :( pls taek me seriousli
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>>82604917
Welcome to the current meta.
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>>82602354
>Goodfellas is bullshit. It is the lousiest film ever, ever made.
What an excellent insight.
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>>82604917
Do me a favor, take a screencap of the catalog RIGHT now and post it here. Then we'll discuss the state of /tv/

I won't even look how it is right now, I'll trust my odds
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>>82603439
Look, if you want to spout your opinion, be prepared to back it. Otherwise why even participate in a discussion? To gloat about your "self-evident" superiority? Too many of you fucking fags lately.
>To say X is Y is just so ignorant
>If you can't see how X is Y, then I'm not wasting time with you
>I don't even see how it is a question that X is Y

Use your words you pussyfooting faggot.
>>
>>82602354
>Goodfellas is bullshit. It is the lousiest film ever, ever made.
he's a funny guy
>>
>>82604487
kek consider it done (i already stopped they are shit)
>>
>>82604597
>nolan vs capeshit director
>plot twist, nolan directed comic book films

i will admit they are better then snyders but would help if they were shorter because they can be a bit boring
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>>82605387
Not just Snyder's they are better than any other capeshit, maybe excluding Donner (I wouldn't call that capeshit). When a good director does capeshit, said capeshit is better than the rest. See Nolan and Raimi and that's it
>>
>>82605527
>raimi

fucking kek.
>>
>>82605600
Are you still here redditor?
>>
>>82605647
>le reddit meme

nice try son. nolan is better than raimi.
>>
>>82604772
>And how the fuck is Donald Trump even related?
It's not. Trump derangement syndrome. It's really much worse than it ever was under Bush.
>>
>>82598993
I don't understand what Trump has to do with filmmaking. I genuinely don't. What the fuck is he talking about there?
>>
>>82598993
Journalists of the Internet era are disingenuous bastards. Look at this title:
>According to Martin Scorsese, ‘younger people’ just don’t understand

It tries to present itself as
>According to Martin Scorsese, "younger people just don't understand"
But that's not what he said. No, at some point, he said 'younger people', and you put pretty words in his mouth to attribute what you wanted to have as a title to him. You didn't even bait it out of him ("So, do you think younger people get cinema?"), you just conjured his opinion out of thin air for your little money-grubby click-baity purposes. They make the title intentionally vague so that the statement seems like he's criticizing every aspect of 'young people', because they don't put a subject after 'just don't understand' -- young people, they just don't get it. All of "it". So says old man; see how that relates to you!
Scorsese has important and thought-through observations about the state of cinema, a medium to which he dedicated his life, and they boil it down to "Old famous man yells at cloud".
>>
Daily reminder that only redditors are thinking on reddit while they post on 4chan
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>>82605887
Notice also the way the article mentions Trump even though Scorcese doesn't even bring up politics, baiting controversy and confusing retarded posters like >>82605832
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>>82599132
I think the idea is that the election served to showcase how tumultuous and chaotic the modern world is, and as a result there would be some kind of grand movement driven to produce great art out of anger or conviction
It's an odd way to phrase it since it doesn't actually have anything to do with Trump winning the election, but there's some line of reasoning behind it
>>
>>82605887
Journalists are the most two-faced little fuckers on the planet
>>
>>82606541
journalists of bad publications* are the most two-faced fuckers on the planet
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>>82606606
name good publications.
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>>82606832
Reuters
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>>82604177
See
>>82604156
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>>82604206
My point is Refn isn't overrated. He's far too divisive to be considered overrated.
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>>82604285
Those are all old guys. There are no new auteurs that are or will be on their level.
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>>82599259
It's the other way around dingus
DeNiro is the overrated actor who coasted off Scorsese's coattails. That's why he has almost no good films that weren't directed by Scorsese
>>
>>82601133
This
Silence is without a doubt one of Scorsese's best
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>>82601555
I'm working on it! Getting funding is hard...
>"Hey, I want to make a slow-paced serious historical drama that isn't oscar-bait.... w-where are you guys going?"
>>
>>82603615
this is true
>>
It is easy to look back on decades worth of film and pick out the masterpieces. There was a lot crap produced during that period too. Westerns were the capeshit of their day, mostly unoriginal, cliche and formulaic. You also had an abundance of war movies bordering on propaganda and "beach" movies to essentially push a musician's album. And much like today, there was a much of terrible or cheesy sci fi and horror flicks.
>>
>>82604444
what trickery is this?
is Scorsese trolling all of us? Or is this his way to try and appeal to the mainstream?
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Confirmation bias from old director. Digital cameras opened a whole new level of accessibility and lowered the cost. There's definitely more art and soul today than before in cinema since it is not explicit club of Hollywood's favorite kikes.
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>>82598993
Wtf does Trump have to do with 70s cinema? These people are LITERALLY insane.
>>
>>82609057
shut up nazi, films are for nice people
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>>82606133
>I think the idea is that the election served to showcase how tumultuous and chaotic the modern world is
I didn't need a reality television star memed into office to know that.
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>>82599132
Well, it's a good thing it wasn't a quote from Scorsese
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>>82601133
I honestly wasn't very impressed with Silence. The book is far better at capturing man's capacity for empathy.
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>>82598993
I mean, all his recent films have sucked shit, so I don't really care what he has to say.
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>>82598993
>>Since the election of Donald Trump, some have expressed hope for a return to the kind of ’70s filmmaking Scorsese is synonymous with.

lmao what the fuck has that orange disappointment got to do with anything
>>
>>82605671
He wasn't implying otherwise, though he might think it. He was just saying Nolan and Raimi's capeshit films are better than the rest, which is true.
>>
>>82609973
FLUUUUUUUUUUUUMPFFFFF
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>>82598993
Gone senile.
>>
>>82604722
>lefty
oh hey plebbit
>>
>>82598993
>DAE media today sucks?
Fuck off and die already boomer scum.
>>
>>82604722
>Is there any that has no artistic integrity or value?
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>>82609973
>wtf how does a country's politics influence its culture
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new hollywood movement 2.0 when?
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>>82610541
https://youtu.be/cu3FJPZfdE8

I've found this to be an interesting take on media. What he says about Myth applies to Tarantino, while the brief summary of Iconography explains a lot about Nolan.
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>>82598993
This nigga hasn't made a good movie since they 80s what the fuck is he talking about?
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>>82610593
Fantastic movie. First time I see it brought up here.
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>>82610767
bookmarking this for later, thanks anon
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>>82601624
Blockbuster movies are mostly money laundering projects. They will keep making them even if they appear to lose money.
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>>82610540
>it has to be lefty to have integrity
You rightfags and leftfags are the same kind of retard
>>
>>82611114
Thanks, enjoy!
>18:00
From pictures to icons
>23:35
Differences between the Western and Arab world outlook
>28:50
The end of the storyline. Jokes without stories
>40:00
Myths
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>>82598993
he's right. young people watch tv (sometimes) and youtube now.
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