character's race get's changed in an adaptation. msm's

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>>82595695
>>82595657

you're both retarded

pic related is how you handle big scary critics

Because the roles for white people are definitely on par with Asian people.

>>82595657
>meanwhile op still has no job and no life
>>must be some niggas fault

makes perfect sense. kys.

>>82595758
rude desu

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>>82595758
Any other logical fallacies you'd like to commit before we move on?

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>>82595744

character's race get's changed in an adaptation.
your reaction
>"REEEEEEEE STOP DIVERSITYING EVERYTHING HOLLYWOOD"
>oh wait she's white. that's completely fine then

Its literally ok when black people do it you filthy CIS white male.

THEM: We want more non-whites playing a significant part in Hollywood.
YOU: Oh so I guess you'd be okay with changing an Asian character's race to white, then?
THEM: No. Not at all. In fact, that's the exact opposite of what we want, which is more non-whites playing a significant part in Hollywood.
YOU: But you're fine with them changing a white character to black!
THEM: Yes, absolutely, because we want more non-whites playing a significant part in Hollywood.
YOU: I don't get it.
THEM: That's on you.

>>82595657
>scarjo gets cast and sjws went reeeeee
>elba got cast and poltards went reeeeee

what are you complaining about

>>82595958
That SJW didn't reee when they changed the race of a character, I think.

>>82595994
>REEEing because SJWs didn't REEE

>>82595928
Why do non-whites want so much more significant representation? They are less than20% of the American population, if you want proportional representation they shouldn't be trying to make up 50% of actors

>>82596057
>america is more than 80% white

lol check that out for wishful thinking

>>82596101
63.7% is the low estimate. 2010 census.

>>82595657
>msm's reaction
Oh yeah, msm, hate those... guys?

>>82595657
idris elba isnt black

>>82596151
msm = mainstream media

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>>82596057
I don't think they want proportional representation. They just want more and more representation for non-whites, and less representation for whites.

>>82595657
who on the left?

>>82595657
The major has an artificial body and she doesn't look Asian, there was no white washing. The casting was bad but not because of her ethnicity.

>>82595695
>Used to complain about everything being brown and bloom, with generic brown haired white man protagonist
>Never fathomed the feminist grrrrl power ruining not vidya but what ever is left of films

>>82595657
What if you think that it is bad to swap races of characters regardless of race? Is that too much for /tv/mblrs brain to process?

>>82595657

I don't care about either of these choices. GiTS seemed liked flop, and DT is totally gonna fail. Who the fuck cares? And this is coming from someone that has read the DT series multiple times

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>>82597934
Hey, if it means they're going to leave vidya alone I'm perfectly happy to let /tv/ burn. I'm more-or-less looking for a reason to even attempt to stick up for you. I mean how much worse can films get anyway?

>>82598116
they're not going to leave vidya alone anon

>>82595928

/thread

>>82595879
but they never make characters white, anime is almost always depicting whites.

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>>82598143
If Anita got the hint it's only a matter of time before the rest of her lock does too. I see this as the possible beginning of vidya repairing the damage done while under normie oppression.

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>>82595695

FUCKING K E K

God Bless you Anon.

>Never Forget the battle
>The battle of GamerGate

>>82596217

>whites

That's a funny way to say Jews

>>82595747
Not our fault your parent's don't want you going into acting, slim pickings when it comes to big named asian actors.

>>82595928

So you're ADMITTING that it actually is an anti-white agenda?

>>82595657
White people are already over-represented in Hollywood, so it doesn't make sense to add more of them in place of minorities that are under-representated.

>>82595958

>elba got cast and poltards went reeeeee

Literally everyone who cared even a little bit about The Dark Tower completely shat on casting for the adaptation the day it was announced.

The narrative that the only people who cared were "Nazis" is literally the very same narrative the money-grubbing retards in Hollywood shat-out as damage-control.

So you're either stupid or the pawn of a soulless multinational corporation.

>>82595928

Was this supposed to get some kind of logical argument?

You're basically just admitting that your side is motivated by anti-white fervor, SJW dogma and race-fetishism.
That is not an admirable defense for your side of the argument, numb-nuts.

why do blacks need to see themselves in media, nobody else fights for it so much, you never saw a mexican doing that

>anime is almost always depicting whites.
nice bait desu

>>82600084
Because blacks have no culture. Mexicans can always watch Mexican movies. A Chinese guy has access to based Hong Kong cinema. A black guy has nothing in Africa to look back onto culture wise, even if he knew what his "tribe" of origin was.

Black people need whites to put then in movies because they can't do it on their own.

>>82600084
>>82600513
why are you responding to yourself?

>82600000

>>82600000

>>82600744
>culture-less angry black man detected
WE

>>82600830
Nah, culture-less white man, just like you.

>>82600927
Don't sell yourself short. Cuck-culture is still culture, in a way.

>>82595928
>you'd be okay with changing an Asian character's race to white, then?

The MC in ghost in the shell isn't aisian, the original creator of the anime said so.

>>82600830
>WE
>>82600966
>KEK

haha, memes!

>>82600966
As is your particular brand of unfocused and impotent anger.

>>82601037
I wish KANGZ was a meme, but black people are so desperate to pretend they have culture they have to appropriate it from other people.
Sad!

>>82601060
Indeed, blacks have much to learn from us. One day they will figure out that slavery is bad and maybe they will ban in on their own!
Probably not since they couldn't even come up with a wheel on their own though.

When will the white man's burden end?

>>82601074
>>82601111
>when the autistic kid attaches to racism

>>82595928
if black people want more presentation why do they not create it their own instead of stealing the things form white people like always?

>>82601229
Real talk though, what's the deal with you leftists?
Why do you guys always go straight to insults when faced with the truth? Why does history trigger you so much?

>>82600927
> culture-less
>white man
Maybe you should learn more about your own people from something other than your local marxist knowledge, you traitorous piece of ignorant backstabbing filth.

>>82601291
Just because you think its insulting to be called autistic doesn't mean its intended as an insult.

>>82601307
No seriously bro. Why are you so triggered by the lack of historical achievements on the part of sub-sharan Africans? Why take it so personally?
Why not just accept they can't be civilized and move on?

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>>82595695

>>82601299
>claiming as your heritage the accomplishments of people who would have viewed you as less than trash were they alive to see you

>mfw people actually watch non-original movies based on other media

wtf is wrong with you?

>>82601389
>but please apologize for slavery, you are responsible for it
>blacks and arabs don't have to, pointing out their role would be racist

What has god wrought? A blind fool incapable of seeing his ignorance.

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stay mad white bois

>>82601473
>he wants to be able to claim the accomplishments of his betters as his heritage and at the same time have no responsibility for their atrocities

>>82601283
You think it's the colored people who do this? It's the money hungry white men who want seats to be filled and a franchise because original shit doesn't make as much money and doesn't have as much merchandise. old and new, to sell/resell to people

>>82598193
>This delusion.

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>>82598201
this is the cringiest and most stupid post on this board, and thats saying something. i didnt believe /tv/ assertion about /v/ being the most autistic board but man have i been proven wrong today!

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>>82595657

>>82595859
>using the term "logical fallacy" without merit like its a Buzzword.

Kys my man.

>>82600513
>Because blacks have no culture.
what is soul
what is jazz
what is rock'n'roll
what is hip hop
what is RnB
what is funk
what is the charleston
what is the jitterbug
what is gospel
what is soul food

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>>82601522
>tfw norway never had black slaves
Feels good to be white and yet able to use the N word.

>>82601522
>point out anon's hypocrisy
>he build a straw man and projects it onto you
Liberals are mentally ill, and there is no cure.

>>82601604
All stolen from the white man.
Even negro spirituals are based on the stolen language of white people.

>>82601604
Remind me, what African country did those thing come from?

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>>82601371

>>82601604
>what is soul
WE WUZ GODZ N SHIET

>>82601526
This.

A franchise is poppular with white men, but start to drop after some time.
Use a woman/poc and get a new audience for the same thing. Use the same people who made the old merchandising to make the new one. When it drops in sales, use another thing to draw new audience in (millennials, women, blacks, asians, gays, whatever)

>>82601611
Your lack of counter argument is noted.

>>82601661
kek, not even Scandinavian/Germanic
but keep guessing, I'm sure sooner or later you will come up with an insult that hurts my feelings if you try for long enough

>>82601526
>money hungry white men
you mean ((()))

>>82595695
You caused this retarded bullshit by giving them a spotlight.

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>>82601648
>Remind me, what African country did those thing come from?

>he thinks niggers aren't africans
>he thinks niggers are real americans
kill yourself cuck

>>82601689
You didn't make an argument, just imagined you did. Leftists have difficultly coping with reality, thus the reason why they experience so much cognitive dissonance.

>you're all liberal leftist sjws shillary blah blah
>you're all alt-right nazis drumf whine whine

has there ever been a better time to not be american?

the fucking state of you people.

>>82601736
Why couldn't they come up with all that shit on their own though? Why is it that they only "developed" something when raised in white culture?

Hmmm.

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>>82601760
>implying this is only happening in America.

>>82601522
>Thinking the guilt of past atrocities is passed down and inherited by virtue of shared skin colour or lineage.
>Thinking we must always admonish the crimes of our ancestors in order to be proud of their innovations in culture and science.
>thinking it's the sole porogative of white people to do this.

>>82601798
Primarily, yeah.
Your cancerous shit metastasizing to the rest of the world in bits and pieces is no excuse for your reckless faggotry.

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>>82601872
>everyone comes to the states because they can get an education there
>our education system indoctrinates them into the SJW political correctness meme

If you guys actually had an education system maybe this we could've avoided this.

>>82601602
>you shouldn't criticize anything because YOU HAVE NO JOB
>not a logical fallacy

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>>82602079
>American education

>>82595879
The thing about the Major in Ghost in the Shell is that SHE'S A FUCKING ROBOT.

>>82600981
A chick named Makoto Kusunagi isn't asian? That seems like bullshit to me.

>>82601798
>it's not just america
>>82601872
>yes it mostly is
>>82602079
>no it's just our education system indoctrinating a whole generation

you sure showed him!

>>82601602
it's an ad hominem. not that'd you understand because you watch overrated faggot youtubers all day you underageb&

>>82595657
>people mad because a robot isn't Japanese when she looked white in the anime

>>82602079
>maybe this we could've avoided this.
>american education

>>82602239
nigger she's a robot and that's not her real name

>>82602239
The robot the Major's brain has been uploaded to isn't asian, it's modeled after caucasian features.
The Major's real ethnicity has no relation to who should portray the character.
If anything, people should be mad they cast Scarlet fucking Johansson to the role, or that they're even adapting an anime series to begin with, not necessarily because anime is bad, but because if you really were interested in Ghost in the Shell, you'd watch the original movie/the series or read the manga.

>>82601648
>Many of these blues elements, such as the call-and-response format, can be traced back to the music of Africa. The use of melisma and a wavy, nasal intonation also suggests a connection between the music of West and Central Africa and the blues. The belief that blues is historically derived from the West African music including from Mali is reflected in Martin Scorsese’s often quoted characterization of Ali Farka Touré’s tradition as constituting "the DNA of the blues".[7]

We wouldn't have modern music if it weren't for Africa.

>>82602239
A man named John isn't white? Seems like bullshit to me.

>>82602322
>We wouldn't have modern music if it weren't for Africa.
The same can be said for literally every continent and ethnic group on the planet.

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>>82596217
> not posting the real chart

>>82602322
>can be traced back
So blues itself isn't African.

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>>82601604
>what is soul
>what is jazz
>what is rock'n'roll
>what is hip hop
>what is RnB
>what is funk
>what is the charleston
>what is the jitterbug
>what is gospel
>what is soul food

All derived from Euro-American folk music.

>>82595657
It's about representation and increasing opportunity. You can't fucking understand that basic argument? Or are you so racist you just chose to ignore it.You could literally answer your own question, but you don't. Absolute fucking scumbag.

>>82602402
The fundamentals of the genre are African, and it was created by African slaves.

>>82599675
Kill yourself racist idiot.

>>82599899
Bingo, what the fuck is so hard for people to understand about this? Oh wait, they do, they just chose to be racist

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>>82602246
Point is you could have an affordable higher education program and indoctrinate generations too. But you don't.

>>82602531
>American education

>>82599899
>under-represented
>blacks make up 13% of the American population
>under-represented in movies
Okay.
>White people are already over-represented in Hollywood
You mean Jews are over-represented in Hollywood.
>inb4 Jews are white

Blacks, particularly men, were over represented long before this meme came along. Now it's just getting retarded.

You would think America is 50% black men, when its more like 7%

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>>82602571
Yes, that's what we're discussing.

>>82602444
But the style itself was born in the United States.

so tired of hollywood shoving smelly minorities down our throats baka....

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>>82602444
>The fundamentals of the genre are African,

No, the fundamentals, the music theory, instruments, etc. are all from Euro-American folk music.

>and it was created by African slaves.

Are you seriously suggesting Black-American slaves had some kinda "genetic memory" of their ancestors 300 years back in Africa banging on hollow logs?

>>82599992

The Dark Tower is my favorite book series. I've reread it multiple times

When Elba was cast I went, "Huh." Thought about it. Then decided it was cool because he's a good actor and any changes they'd have to make would be super simple

Some people don't give a shit if the actor is good

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>>82595657
>black character gets changed to white
>/pol/s reaction: SJWS STOP WHINING WHO CARES
>white character gets changed to black
>/pol/s reaction: fucking sjw cucks REEEEE

>>82602789
>actually making a distinction between pol and SJWs

>>82603044
kek this, at this point they are one and the same.

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>>82596217
baka-senpai

>>82603110
Have they ever not been? Their views are only adopted in direct reaction to eachother. It's a feedback loop, and doesn't have to make much sense as long as it's the complete opposite of what the other side believes.

>>82603432
true, but i think its funny how /pol/ scream they are not when its fucking clear to anyone who can read kek.

>>82600084
you kiddin me? all over facebook i see my hispanic friends sharing videos about how mexican representation is too small in hollywood. same with some of my asian friends. the prominent minorities in america are all trying to get their piece of hollywood nowadays

>Go to Bollywood/China/Middle east/Africa/South America/etc
>WOW WHERE IS THE DIVERSITY? THESE FUCKING NAZI'S

Meanwhile we are forfeiting our countries, destroying our nations, and committing suicide

>>82600084
>you never saw a mexican doing that
You're clearly not paying attention.

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>>82601872
UK here, our shit country leads the world in SJW faggotry.

>>82595695
Did all of this shit really start with gamergate? Honest question.

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>>82603044
>>82603110

>>82604593
>all that daily mail

no thanks bro

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>>82604844
Until you fucking like it

>>82604793
It's amazing how you got offended by those two posts.

>>82599899

Why should movies, specially fantasy movies, give a fuck about representation? Have you considered movies are fictions?

Plus, a character should not be modified to be politically correct. If the source material character is black, latin, spanic, asian or whatever i agree it should not be whitewashed but white characters or male characters should not be changed or gender swapped just for a political agenda... specially if the attribute is intrinsic to the conflict.

Roland is described on the books as Clint Eastwood essentially. On the second book Odetta, a black female character originally from the 50s fear him because he looks like a white son of a bitch. Her whole conflict and most of her personality is built around discrimination.

With Roland being now black as well that conflict would be gone... the problematic hidden and denied even though racism is very much alive in America nowdays.

Using the representation argument to avoid actually depicting racism is actually far more racist.

That said, Elba is a pretty good actor and McConaughey is also pretty much so acting wise i think the movie will deliver. It's the argument and pacing what actually worry me since the western slow build up King uses seem completely absent.

Not to mention Roland speaks too much and the movie pretty much implies Roland will treat Jake as a son to solve his own daddy issues...

That's not exactly how they relationship goes even though it develops into that eventually.

>>82604993
It's amazing how you got offended by that picture

>>82604593
>plastic knives 99 cents
>cents
>UK
Americucks embarrassing themselves as usual

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>>82604793
You ok?

>>82604984
>those immigrants, coming here, stealing british tramps jobs

kek

>>82602207
>dude Motoko Katsuragi is a robot! Why can't she be white?
>bro Goku Son is an alien. Why can't he be white?
>Kahn Noonien Singh is genetically artlered. Why can't he be white?

Next month Matt Damon as Jamal DeMarkus III, the ((Android)) from the Bronx.

>>82604695

GG for all its flaws was the first quasi organized push back against progressivism and main stream bias

>>82595747
They should just write their own. Oh wait, chinks are basically robots, nips are all autistic so they can't produce anything but moe, and Koreans just generally don't do anything besides barbeque and get plastic surgery.

>>82605269
but then it started to eat itself because most of them were retards that thought the ends justified the means.

>>82605324

The means weren't bad until people started to cooped it for personal advancement. Yep that's why I thought Jim was smart when he gfto when he did.

>>82604695
Christ no. Its another symptom, not the cause.

>>82605269
Except you only managed to convince neckbeards and the rest of the world just viewed you as manchildren throwing a temper tantrum harassing no-name female indie devs.

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>>82604793

>>82604695
Think of it as the first explosive fart after a long, long period of diarrhea.

>>82605183
One of these things is not like the other, nice strawman faggot

>>82601748
Your lack of counter arugment is noted.

>>82601760
Its just america dropping to the same level as the rest of the world.

>>82605724
The popular people who supported or were sympathetic toward GG were fine. I think they conducted themselves reasonably.

But the issue came out when mainstream media wanted a juicy story. Just think about it, a handful of pioneering female developers breaking ground in a competitive male dominated industry? It's a fight against discrimination, an underdog story, and a battle of the sexes all rolled into one.

The news networks played it perfectly.

>>82595695
Jesus christ she put on a lot of city miles.

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>>82606361

>>82606064

There's really no point in arguing with the mentally ill.

Shutting down the asylum system was a mistake.

>>82595657
My problem is that an established white character is changed to black in the Dark Tower, and there is no way to voice my complaint against it outside of 4chan, because I will immediately get labelled racist, or people start claiming that nowhere was it stated that Roland was white, therefore I am racist.
On the other hand, it's totally not okay for a white actress to play an android, for some reason she was supposed to be asian, even though she clearly looked white in the anime, and literally every social media platform agrees.

Double standard.

>>82604695
Did not begin with gamergate

>>82606361
Except there wasn't much else of a story there to begin with. They claimed it was about ethics in video game journalism but all they really did was go after small-time devs who made shitty indie games they didn't like and hardly anyone was paying attention to in the first place.

>>82606785
Your continued lack of counter argument is noted.

>>82600084
>you never saw a mexican doing that
They have zero money. They are a pretty worthless demographic to pander to

>>82607239

You have yet to make an argument.

>>82601604
>what is jazz
Wasn't jazz a thing of Asians before blacks decided to adopt it? Same with blues. Even the pentatonic scale, when you play the notes in order, sounds like someone's playing that weird three-stringed Chinese lute.

>>82602695
>Are you seriously suggesting Black-American slaves had some kinda "genetic memory" of their ancestors 300 years back in Africa banging on hollow logs?

Are you dumb? Do you know how culture and traditions work? It gets passed down from generations to generations no matter where a family travels to

one of the main networks is about to air a show about the aftermath of Romeo and Juliet's ending about the families, and one of the Italian rennaissance families is now entirely black. ABC or NBC, not sure which. Not even memeing

>>82607008

>nowhere was it stated that Roland was white

I beg your pardon sai but it was.
Roland is descrived by Jake like Clint Eastwood and Odetta fears both him and Eddie precisely because they are white.

Furthermore this racism is her main conflict on the second book so not only it's been stated that he is white but it is important for one conflict at the very least.

>>82595657
>One replacing one of the few asain leads we'd have this year especially in a blaockbuster

>Another replacing the standard white dude you get in these westerns.

Now you get it.

>>82595928
So they are openly anti-white? Why shouldnt it bother me?

>>82601526
>the money hungry white men
>white

Jews aren't white anon.

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>>82595657
How does this surprise you in the slightest.

All according to the agenda
and it gives me moar adaptations of my fav material