Just finished watching this for the first time in over ten years.

>>82495707
>Why didn't the Norwegians tell anyone about the shit going down?
Probably the same reason why the Americans didn't tell anyone. Nobody trusted anyone and their radio equipment was destroyed. There's a shitty 2011 prequel that takes place in the Norwegian camp
>When did Blair get infected, and who infected him?
Blair probably go himself infected while doing the autopsy of the dog thing
>When did the stoner guy on the couch get infected?
Probably early on by the Norwegian dog
>Why wasn't this film successful when it first came out?
Because of E.T.

>>82495916
Wouldn't that nigger be wearing gloves and shit?

>>82495707

1. In both the 1982 film and in the strongly disliked 2011 prequel which explores the Norwegian camp, there is plenty of context. At first, some scientists wanted to keep the discovery secret for themselves, not knowing what they'd found until it was too late. By that point everyone was too busy trying (and failing) to stay alive that they didn't have any time to talk to others. Basically the Norwegian camp follows the same basic plot outline as the American one - everything happens so quickly, and the few times they do try the radio don't work, so pretty soon other things take priority.

2. We will never know exactly when Blair was infected. My personal view is that the mass of thing-stuff that they burned and buried was still strong and warm enough that it re-assembled while everyone else was inside, and it chose the solitary Blair for its next victim (easy pickings, the rest of the group doesn't know). Another valid theory is that Blair started to be infected when he touched the end of his pencil to his mouth while explaining the dog-thing creature to the group - it's possible some Thing cells got into Blair from there, and besides Blair was arm-deep in Thing at multiple points, so one little cut or imperfection in his skin would have doomed him.

3. It is not clear whether the dog-thing infects Norris or Palmer first. My personal view is that Norris was the first victim, while Palmer was the next victim, during a two-day interim (not shown in the film). I believe that it's Palmer's long johns which Mac is holding when he makes his tape, but again, we'll never know for certain.

4. It was the summer of E.T., and people were in the mood for a happy alien story, not a bleak and horrifying one. Anons today underestimate what a huge cultural event E.T. was.

3.

>>82495707
>Why didn't the Norwegians tell anyone about the shit going down?
Watch the 2011 film

>>82497115
That's like telling somebody to eat dog shit to know what dog food tastes like

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>pubic hair on the neck
What did it mean by this?

Friendly reminder this film doesn't make sense from a narrative standpoint because John sacrificed logic, timelines and linears in order to create the ultimate paranoia/isolation terror. It worked, though, the film is one of my all-time favorites, it's just that it doesn't make any fucking sense because many things (no pun) contradict each other, and the film bends its own established rules on few occasions. The fact no one has figured it out 35 later is a testament to that

>>82497445
>many things (no pun) contradict each other, and the film bends its own established rules on few occasions.

such as?

>>82495916
I prefer to believe that Blair gets infected when the lights go out. It explains a great deal more. Blair would not run the computer simulations if he himself were the thing - he would already know how fast he could take things over. Here's how it goes:
>Palmer assimilated by dog on screen
>Norris partially assimilated by eating something tainted
>Blair goes nuts and is sent to shack
>Lights go out
>Palmer assimilates Blair in his shack
>Palmer runs into Fuchs on his way back
>Burns him and litters his corpse with MacReady's clothing
This is further explained by Palmer being the last one seen with the flamethrower prior to the lights going out.

>>82495707
>1. Why didn't the Norwegians tell anyone about the shit going down?
Probably the same reason as the Americans - there was a snowstorm during the period in which they had the knowledge to do so.
>2. When did Blair get infected, and who infected him?
He was infected by Palmer when the lights went out imho. This explains Fuchs' burning - Palmer didn't have time to assimilate him so he burned him instead. This further makes sense when you realize Palmer was the last to have the flamethrower before the lights went out.
>3. When did the stoner guy on the couch get infected?
He was the first to be infected when it goes into the room with the person's shadow. The director has stated that it was Palmer, but his shadow was too much of a give-away, so they used a stunt double's shadow instead.
>4. Why wasn't this film successful when it first came out?
Because it came out around the same time as ET

>>82498060
He's got nuthin' - just lame b8.

So I always assumed Blair was the first person infected. Two things always stuck out that made me think this.

1. He elaborates heavily into the fact that the imitations would be perfect, so much so that they wouldn't even know they were imitations.

2. Towards the end when the group goes out to the shed and find the tunnel with the ship that Blairthing was building, one of them makes a remark that "he's been busy for a long time out here.", or something to that effect. I just figured that Blairthing had been building it out there even before he was confined to the shed, and that's also why when they confined him he didn't transform, since he could just devote all his time to working on that ship instead of splitting time pretending to be normal and working on it whenever he could sneak away.

>>82497013
He does wear gloves. Thats not when he gets infected cause after that he destroys all the radio equipment and gets locked in the shed.

Sometime during his stay in the shed is when he got infected

Norwegians dont tell anyone cause they dont speak fucking english

How stupid are you?

So what happened at the end? Was childs the thing?

>>82502217
And here we go

>>82501496
A lot of Norwegians are fluent in English. More than 80% knows how to speak some English.

>>82502474
That and lets not forget that they were not any Norwegians, they were scientists, it's pretty standard to know more languages when you are a doctor.

>>82495707
>1. Why didn't the Swedes tell anyone about the shit going down?
Why didn't the americans?

>>82497440
The thing usually turns into a mix of pieces of different creatures that are not where they are supposed to be, because they are useful adaptations for the moment.
Maybe it was hoping to break through the ceiling and escape, so it grew fur, or it could just be that it's a messy process and the genetic sequences it has don't always express themselves properly.

>>82502217
Nah he couldnt be. He had a flamethrower and easily could have of just snuck up on the main dude in thing form if he wanted.

>>82502474
>>82502599

In the 80s nobody gave a fuck about learning English.

>>82502217

>Childs was the Thing
Mac is going to freeze to death, the Thing will be found and we're all doomed once it's found.
>Childs wasn't the Thing.
It vanished into the snowstorm while Childs was chasing it. Mac and Childs will freeze to death and we're all doomed once it's found.

>>82495707
>1. Why didn't the Norwegians tell anyone about the shit going down?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fW_otRmxuk

>>82497115
Even disregarding the borderline heretical choice to replace the practical effects, the 2011 falls flat to me because it makes The Thing behave more like a rabid animal rather than what we saw in Carpenters.

>>82495707
>4. Why wasn't this film successful when it first came out?
John Carpenter films usually aren't. Ghosts of Mars was good too but it got absolutely trashed by (((critics))).

>>82503350
After the movie ended Macready killed childswith the flamethrower

>>82497440
Why did it grow another human face?

>>82503650

I reject this view.

First of all, as a piece, 2011 is careful to repeat most of the same sorts of dramatic arcs, in sequence, as take place in 1982. They knew that 1982 was a solid formula and so they were careful to ape that. Two examples of this are how the Juliette-thing essentially moves us along from the first act to the second act (now everyone understands perfectly what this thing is capable of, and what the stakes really are), and how the incapicatated, previously trusted team member turns out to be a Thing and decimates the team in the film's flashiest and most memorable sequence (Norris-Thing/Edvard-Thing). The point being that in terms of story beats, 2011 maps onto 1982 (exactly because they really, sincerely tried very carefully to describe the same creature with same m.o., morphology and so on), and this because the same creature is being described in the one movie, under the same sorts of, er "environmental and evolutionary pressures", is again described under like circumstances in the other. In terms of story, the 2011 filmmakers succeeded to create a worthwhile companion piece, which is the main thing about the movie that people like you (the majority) miss.

Or suppose not, and suppose that we allow that the Things in 2011 behave more erratically than in 1982. Then even in this other case, your view is still mistaken in the sense that you don't account for chronology and motivation. In 2011, the creature is interacting with and becoming humans for the very first time ever, and has to figure out how they work. Moreover, it has a ready, viable escape in the saucer, which is scuttled. In this other interpretation, the thing has logged experience being human, which it turns to the later chess match, more necessary now since it doesn't have an immediate means of escape at any one time. Either way, you're wrong.

>>82503181
Idiot

>>82504224

It had assimilated a husky guy who (its perfect copy of him, anyway) really was having a heart attack at the moment. It was disoriented and had to react to perceived threat/attack (defibrillation) just as any cornered animal would: by fighting. Its pure Thing-instinct kicked in, which entails the following: grow some shit to immediately get a better sensory understanding of what's going on (eyes, ears, whatever else it knows to do etc), fight attackers (chopping Copper's arms off), and spread your seed around (all that green shit coming out of the chest cavity, flying all over the place).

This is why the dog-thing grows eyes and claws and shit all at once, when it is cornered, and why Edvard-Thing acts as it does. Huh, it's almost as if m.o. and morphology really are consistent among the two films, after all.

>>82495707
>1-4
Watch the prequel

"It has no pace, sloppy continuity, bland characters... It's my contention that John Carpenter was never meant to direct science fiction horror movies. Here are some things he'd be better suited to direct: Traffic accidents, train wrecks and public floggings..." - Alan Spencer, Starlog magazine November, 1982

"A surprising failure" "Carpenter's most unsatisfying film to date." - Phil Hardy, Science Fiction (1984)

"Too phony looking to be disgusting. It qualifies only as instant junk" "A foolish, depressing, overproduced movie that mixes horror with science fiction to make something that is fun as neither one thing or the other. Sometimes it looks as if it aspired to be the quintessential moron movie of the 80's" - Vincent Canby, New York Times

"It seems clear that Carpenter made his choice early on to concentrate on the special effects and the technology and to allow the story and people to become secondary. Because this material has been done before, and better, especially in the original "The Thing"" - Roger Ebert

"This movie is more disgusting than frightening, and most of it is just boring." David Denby, New York Magazine

"The structure of the piece reminds unpleasantly of porno films..." - Daily Variety

"So single-mindedly determined to keep you awake that it almost puts you to sleep" - David Ansen, Newsweek

"A wretched excess" - Gary Arnold, The Washington Post

"The only avenue left to explore would seem to be either concentration camp documentaries or the snuff movie." - William Parente, The Scotsman

Audiences didn't show up, either. Despite Carpenter's proven track record with Halloween ($47 million), The Fog ($21 million), and Escape from New York ($25 million), the box office for The Thing only amounted to $13.8 million, with an opening weekend gross of $3.1 million.

"In France, I'm an auteur. In England, I'm a horror movie director. In Germany, I'm a filmmaker. In the US, I'm a bum." - John Carpenter

"I take every failure hard. The one I took the hardest was "The Thing". My career would have been different if that had been a big hit... The movie was hated. Even by science-fiction fans. They thought that I had betrayed some kind of trust, and the piling on was insane. Even the original movie's director, Christian Nyby, was dissing me." - John Carpenter

"What the old picture delivered – and what Carpenter has missed – was a sense of intense dread." Variety (In 1951, the same paper had said of Nyby's film: "The resourcefulness shown in building the plot groundwork is lacking as the yarn gets into full swing. Cast members fail to communicate any real terror.")

"If you want blood, go to the slaughterhouse. All in all, it's a terrific commercial for J&B Scotch." - Christian Nyby, director of the original

"We're Dead" remarked producer David Foster. The occasion was his return from the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood and the premiere engagement of E.T. THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL, where the trailer for THE THING also happened to be playing. The icy silence of the matinee audience of grandmothers escorting their grandchildren ( and vice versa ) was enough to elicit his precise statement of our predicament.

The ground had been shifting underneath our feet ever since the public previews, one executive confiding to me that the studio considered the movie a "missed opportunity", a product of failed expectations. The advertising campaign had changed overnight - the somber, predominately black and white imagery ( which we had been consulted on ) replaced overnight with the now familiar "glow face" ( which we hadn't ), the tag line " Man Is The Warmest Place To Hide" dumped for "The Ultimate In Alien Terror", which I abhorred ( "Man" was written by a publicist named Stephen Frankfort, who also came up with what I thought was the best tag line ever for ALIEN - "In Space, No One Can Hear You Scream". He was hired early on and his company also created the earliest teaser with the ice block. The "Alien Terror" tagline was concocted by a studio suddenly desperate to display the word "Alien" above the title ). Both I thought represented a last minute demotion to "B" film status, something we had fought for years, and evidence that Universal was effectively throwing in the towel in trying to reach a broader, more mainstream audience.

Are there any other great Ayyyyylium movies like this one? Or any good horrors similar to this movie?

>>82503650
This. What makes the thing so scary in the Carpenter films is that it plays with its prey. It behaves like a sentient creature, not an animal. There are multiple times in the movie where the thing probably could've just fucked everyone, like when the Palmer thing was tied down with Gary and co., but instead, it goes all out and aims to strike as much fear and paranoia as possible. Whereas in the 2011 flick, it just kinda attacks whenever it feels like it. There's no method, or reason, just, eh, guess I'll fuck this dude now

>>82504225
>In 2011, the creature is interacting with and becoming humans for the very first time ever, and has to figure out how they work
So it thought that if it slowly turned into a screaming monster that breaks down walls and chases after people, the humans wouldn't have noticed it?

It's assumed that the Thing has assimilated thousands of other aliens. If it landed on a new planet it wouldn't behave like a wild animal. When it had characters cornered with nobody around, instead of just silently killing them it takes the time to transform into a monster.

> it has a ready, viable escape in the saucer, which is scuttled
Then why the fuck did it crawl out of the ice to begin with?

The director clearly was a fan of the 1982 version but he had no idea why it worked.

>>82504635
>>82504715
>>82504807
>>82504842

Of course, with historical hindsight (and especially given the present readership), we are now inclined to read these blurbs and not merely know the critics to be wrong, but to be scandalized that so many can so uniformly so badly misread a film, and so totally fail to see what we all now know to be present in the film.

Some comments can be explained away by the absence of certain technologies: the "too phony looking to be disgusting" falsity can be partially explained in the sense that the critic had not yet had the benefit of seeing really awful CGI in any film, and thus not be obliged to appreciate practical effects as much as he should have. Ebert totally misses the present story,

So how is it that they were all so wrong? On the one hand, we should get the banality that taste is subjective out of the way (this is true, but unhelpful). On the other hand, we should look at differences in the historical periods to gauge things a bit better.

Even in the 80s, society was a lot more moral-faggy than it was today. Even though people have always been able to appreciate bleak and/or strange art, when it hits as hard as this film, I think that the respectable critics actually felt a vague moral duty to trash the film, and that this is the reason why they all piled on with their false opinions.

>>82504950
>Are there any other Ayyyyylium movies like this one?
Not hundreds, but a lot

>Great
Nope. Black mountain side is comfy and decent, but otherwise

>>82503878
I'm pretty sure they actually had sex after the film ends. They drink a bit and then they get down to it.

>MacCready: "The way I see it, if we fuck and you attack me, you're the Thing. If we fuck and neither of us gets killed, we're both good."

It's the only way to be sure.

>>82505006

>So it thought that if it slowly turned into a screaming monster that breaks down walls and chases after people, the humans wouldn't have noticed it?

This is a bogus complaint, and you know that it's bogus. You just haven't analyzed things closely enough, because you want to make your swipe stick, somehow, when it applies to the 2011 film, and ignore like circumstances in the 1982 film as it fits your convenience.

The juliette-thing is caught with its pants down (metaphorically) and so it reverts to pure survival mode, giving up the pretense of simulation. What other things do this under duress? Oh yeah, most of them, especially the dog-thing when it's cornered (which busts through a ceiling itself btw, further putting the lie to your attempt here).

There's more in your post to unpack, and you're driving at conditionally good points, but you ignore decent speculations (which are all we have at this point) for where we don't have perfect information as to the rest. In particular, you have a lack of imagination about how it might happen that the thing is out in the cold while the saucer is right there - I can think of a good three or four reasonable story explanations. Further, your "wild animal" sentence is baseless in the sense that it'll do whatever makes the most sense in a given scenario. If it lands on a planet populated only with space-deer, then yeah, it'll "act like a wild animal" for as long as this suits its purposees (assimilating the planetary population).

i just watched it. pretty cool, i liked the cinematography, and the uncertainness of the plot. it was almost a mystery at points. still, i dont really see why it's so acclaimed. it seems like a pretty standard horror movie. can someone explain?

>>82504979
>what makes The Thing scary is its disregard for ensuring that it's able to escape to civilization

I mean, it is scary that it plays with them. But I think the scarier thing would be The Thing reaching civilization.

I'd prefer a more logical reason as to why it didn't try infecting them when they were most vulnerable.

>>82505631
>The juliette-thing is caught with its pants down
How? MEW had her back turned and she was completely distracted and alone. Juliette could have just stabbed her or something.

>>82505805

The practical effects are really remarkable. The Thing is thus a great stopping point for millenials who want to be nostalgic for a visual world that they never really grew up in, but as /tv/ makes perfectly clear, it really is better when done right.

Further, the setting is rather unique. Name another three films which take place entirely in Antarctica.

Its initial rejection by the critics and the people (see above) also lend it a historical cult status which has now mostly evaporated since it's now a popular and well known horror movie, having been rescued from its earlier ignominy.

The film is also a remake of a well-known and much-loved 1951 treatment of same story - the difference being that Carpenter's version hews far, far closer to the original short story, which is itself a classic of American science fiction.

All of this gives the film a unique and special charm, among horror/sci-fi pieces. It has historical cred and the film "had hard times" which also give it some cred.

The scene where Mac is doing the blood test is one of my favorites.

>>82506415
It's easily one of the best horror movie scenes of all time

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WHat do you think is the best designed Thing imitation? It's hard, but I think the dog takes the cake. It may be because its the first time you see something so fucking horrible, but this abomination really stuck with me as a kid.

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>>82507192
Say what you want about the prequel, but it had possibly the most disgusting Thing ever, I think.

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>>82507249
Excuse me?

The Norwegians try to warn them at the start before they get shot and their helicopter blown up.

They are shouting Norwegian that the dog just aint right.

>>82507320
That scene is when my dad and 13 year old me started laughing our asses off. It was so god damn gross and goofy. What a gem.

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>>82507192
>>82507249
>>82507320

Stand aside

>>82507333
I wonder if Norwegian viewers were annoyed they got a head start on the already shortlived mystery.

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>>82507192
Imagine being 3 inches from this fucking thing.

>>82503747
>Ghosts of Mars wood good
m8...

>>82507192
the one where they try resusscitating the guy and his hands go through his chest
Post the webm

>>82507500

Every time I try to post a quote I get 'connection error' but yes, the Norwegians were shouting "Get away from the dog. It is not a dog. It is some kind of thing imitating a dog"

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>>82507599
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>>82507752

>>82507192
The spider-head thing.

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>prequel apologists

>>82498899
It would have been more useful to the Thing is Fuchs were turned.
Fuchs probably killed himself before it could get to him like it was said in the movie.

The one bit that always bugged me was when the tentacles come out the dead body and attack the guy in the chair.

The other guy walks in and finds the dude wrapped in slimy tentacles and then the guy runs off to get the others.

When they get to the original room, there is absolutely no trace anything went on.

They then get the dude outside, half turned, moaning, they burn him.

Ruins the whole mentality as to how the thing takes control of a host and how did it clean everything up so well while making it's escape?

>>82508158
Makes perfect sense actually.
The blood is part of the thing and can move on its own, as established by the scene where they stick a hot needle in everyone's blood sample.

>>82508158
No clean up needed when your mess is quasi sentient.

>>82498899
Didn't they check on Blair when the lights went out and he said he heard weird things outside?

Eitherway, Blair was assimilated while in the shack.

>>82507249

This scene was such bullshit, he's just sitting there sucking on it and not doing anything, it couldn't have been THAT strong.

>>82508309
>>82508325

Apologies, I should have explained better.

They say one cell is enough to take control of a host as per the computer simulation.

Instead you have a full mass of 'Thing' under the sheet meaning the dead guy was a thing.

It takes control of the dude in the chair (sorry I haven't memorised all their names)

When they catch him outside he is the same size, build etc apart from a deformed hand.

What happened to the rest of all that mass?

>>82508532
Only a small bit of the thing from the corpse split off, the extra mass wouldn't be noticeable. 99% of the corpse was still under the sheets

>>82508532
They burn it with the other specimens.

>>82508532
Keep this in mind:

During the blood test, when MacReady drops the dish containing the contaminated blood, the liquid blood begins to move on its own.

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Tbqh, the actual screenplay for the thing is pretty mediocre, especially compared to the movie, but I'll be damned if this wouldn't have been kino

>>82508692

That would mean the entire facility is riddled with Things then.

All spider head things and blood slugs rampaging throughout.

Why even bother with the blood tests if it could be anywhere as opposed to anyone?

Just get the fuck out.

How did the nigger manage to survive until the end?
Surely The Thing contaminated the stocks of fried chicken.

>>82504635
>>82504715
>>82504807
>>82504842

I'm so fucking mad reading this bullshit. I suppose it's a hard lesson about group-think and the validity of artistic criticism. Makes me wonder what current films will be praised in the next decade or two. It won't be BvS. Fuck off.

>>82508806
He's just stating a fact from the movie, don't get too worked up over it. If you want a non-canon explanation just assume it can't survive too long without been attached to the main body mass

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>>82508916
The Dark Knight Rises

>>82503350
or they got it? IDK why couldn't that be an option though?

>>82502217
Childs was wearing someone else's jacket for literally no reason at the end, he was definitely turned.

>>82495707
that pencil that touched his lip....

>>82502217
This is the best analysis of this theory you're gonna get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppG-I_Dhxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgRWMbGSUec

>>82507546
Man, what happened to practical effects

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>>82495707
>1. They did in their language, Carpenter intentionally did not caption it so we were equally confused as the Americans. (assuming neither us, nor they spoke anything other than english)

>2. Blair probably got infected after he was put into the cabin, I only say this because you'll notice a noose, he intended to kill himself but infection got to him.

>3. I think the dog infected Palmer on the first night when we saw it enter somebodys room.

>4. Normies dont understand how good something is until they get the neurons firing.

Pretty good discussion in this thread, definitely makes me rethink some parts of the film, gonna have to re-watch.

>>82508806

It's the same reason they aren't all mutant dog aliens running around. Safety in numbers, in this case by being a complete organism. They only separate (like the spider head) when the rest of the collective is compromised.

>>82510378
The shadow is either Norris or Palmer. Both have curly, frizzy hair like the shadow on the wall does and are the only 2 with the hair type that are infected.

>>82510609
They've stated it's Palmer. David Clennon's silhouette was too obvious, so they switched him out with stunt double Dick Warlock for the shadow. It's still Palmer though.

>>82510665
That's pretty good to know then. One question answered

>>82509222
>MacReady laughs when Childs drinks the whiskey
>it's because he wasn't worried about being infected because he already is
Well, that went over my head.

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>>82502217

>>82497075
>It was the summer of E.T., and people were in the mood for a happy alien story

why would people be in the mood for that, it's insanely specific

>>82510778
>>82510778
The thing absorbs the host's mannerisms and memories tho, it would act suspicious of the drink to maintain the façade.

>>82507546

I can imagine that better than I can imagine being one of three people retarded enough to split up, after all the shit that went down, in the heart of creepy alien tunnels. The fact the black cook and the fucking English expedition leader just wander off to die always pisses me off.

>>82502217
The twist is that it doesn't matter. There's a snowstorm that nothing will get out of. Everything is going to die. Even if you burn the thing, little bits of it are still alive, like with the dead dog. MacReady knows that he's lost, whether Childs is the Thing or not. His character has come full circle after calling the computer chess game a "cheatin' bitch" at the beginning of the movie: he can finally accept his defeat.

>>82504225
lol shut up

>>82508467

Confirmed for no imagination.

The thing is replicating into his fucking brain and taking over right up at the brain-stalk and shit. Jonas is experiencing quiet, muffled 14/10 pain while all of this is going on, and part of him is still actually there, just in time to witness (probably to his dimly-aware relief, but still) his own immolation.

>>82511178
The black cook was attacked and killed by the box monster.

>>82495707
You know, it seems like a simple film on the surface but it's really not. I guess that's why people like it.

>>82511285

And the English dude gets ambushed by Blairthing. Still doesn't change the fact that MacReady, the black cook, and tbe English dude split up while setting the charges to blow up the base, leaving themselves vulnerable to EXACTLY what fucking happens.

>>82510995
>mobile phone
>/pol/


Who could have guessed :')

>>82511301

The Thing is to horror movies what Alpha Centauri is to 4X games.

>>82511301
it's got a lot of subtlety and room for interpretation. You can say it's poor filmmaking or Carpenter creating a tone of paranoia, or anywhere in between.

>>82510665
>>82510703

Now let me explode this fun.

(this is the pleasure of talking about this movie - /each side has good weight to its stuff/!)

You just told an anecdote where maybe initially David Clennon was supposed to provide the silhouette. But, according to one of you anons, he actually didn't in the end. It's almost as if the director intentionally wanted ambiguity about which curly-haired guy is cornered, huh.

Next: THE THREE PEOPLE ON THE SECOND AWAY MISSION TO SURVEY/RE-DISCOVER THE SAUCER ARE MAC, NORRIS, AND PALMER. MAC AND NORRIS SPEND GREAT HAZARDOUS TIME GETTING DOWN INTO THE SAUCER'S VALLEY AND CHECKING IT OUT, WHILE ONLY PALMER IS LEFT NEXT TO THE CHOPPER. PALMER IS A BACKUP PILOT, AND CAN RUN THE CHOPPER IF NEED BE. IF PALMER HAD BEEN FULLY THING'D, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIS ABSOLUTE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO FUCK OFF SOMEPLACE ELSE.

An analogous argument applies to Norris, right next to that damn saucer, so close, yet so far away. So why doesn't Norris (or Palmer) make a run at the saucer?! Two damn escape vehicles! Well, if one cares to watch 2011, the saucer is satisfactorily explained to have been ruined.

>>82505577
>t. 14 year old

Nice to see a thread of this movie when i just re watched it, also, such a shame the prequel used CGI.

>>82511486
>a shame the prequel used CGI.
They used practical effects but then the jews complained and made them cover it all up with shitty cgi.

>>82511178
Gary was standing maybe a few metres away from MacReady when he was jumped. He hardly "split up".

Now, Nauls, he went full retard. He even suspected something was wrong and still went off on his own even though MacReady was right behind him.

>>82511507
Yeah i know and they were such nice practical effects, i wonder what were the producers thinking when they went for the CGI.

>>82508806
A common theory is it is kind of like a hive mind of cells, and like most hive minds the fewer there are the dumber it is. This works with the blood test since just a little bit of blood lacks the higher thinking to try and contain it's reaction to pain to maintain the subterfuge. So sure, it could have bits left all throughout the facility, but they wouldn't be smart enough to really do much and pose a serious threat.

And considering the possibly application of realistic energy needs, smaller offshoots wouldn't last very long as >>82508926 suggests. Even if a small bit could be infectious, it wouldn't want to leave small bits of itself laying around starving to death and wasting biomass.

>Just get the fuck out.

Which is why it takes place in a snowy ice hole, the simple solution to most horror movies is impossible in this setting.

>>82508776
pretty much all screenplays read poorly, they're meant to be filmed not read

>>82511386
it's anything but poor filmmaking, after the script was greenlit they had to wait a full year before filming, this gave carpenter the time to map out all the little tiny details of the film. Most movies don't get that opportunity

>>82504225
Its basic ability, its modus operandi, is to replicate the assimilated. It precludes itself to disguise.

>>82511153
Regardless it'd seem like a tell from Mac's POV. He was drunk, after all. There's no doubt in my mind he burned Childs, whether Childs was a thing or not, Mac believed he was.

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>>82510665
>Dick Warlock

>>82495916
>There's a shitty 2011 prequel

It's not shitty, it's just not as good.

>>82511007
Not really. The Thing's tone just didn't match the zeitgeist in the early 80s. People were after positive vibes, adventure and shit. The Thing was grueling and pessimistic. This is the decade where the most popular movie with ghosts is a tie between a comedy (Ghostbusters) and a family friendly thriller of sorts (Poltergeist).

Consider the decade like a conversation some friends are having over which flavor of ice cream they like most. The Thing was the social outcast kid butting in and saying he liked to pick the wings off of butterflies to watch them struggle.

>>82495707

Just for never one, the Norwegian shooting at the dog yells "That thing's not a dog!" in his native tongue, but none of the Americans can understand him.

>>82513796
Are you seriously trying to say there wasn't a market for horror films in the 80s?

>>82514010
No. I'm seriously saying The Thing was criticized for being joyless and too much.

>>82514222
It may be joyless, but it's comfy af

>>82514254
I am not critics and audiences from the early 80s. You don't have to tell me that.

I love this movie. Ruined my childhood, but I fucking love it.

Sequel set immediately afterward starring de-aged Kurt Russell when?

>>82514418
never thankfully

Is this THE most rewatchable film ever?

>>82498899
>Blair would not run the computer simulations if he himself were the thing
Listen to the commentary. John and Kurt discuss whether someone would realize if they are the thing or not.

>>82505631
>The juliette-thing is caught with its pants down
Are you having a fucking giggle, or are you hoping nobody watched it?
Hell, you can even google the fucking scene to know it's bullshit

>>82495707
>HELP HELP! We unearthed an alien that changes shape and assimilates us from a single cell
>Lol ok retards go back to eating fermented fish

>>82505577
lewd and hot

>>82495707
Blair got turned during the off-screen Fuchs incident. It explains his docile and submissive attitude towards Macready when they talked at the shed. The Thing's go-to strategy when disguising itself as a human was to call as little attention to itself as possible. Norris and Palmer were definitely the quietest, least bothersome people in the group after they were turned if not before (I think Norris was already like that, while Palmer was a little bit crazy but notably toned it way down after getting turned).
Palmer and Norris were both infected by the dog wandering around the station right at the beginning. The shadow in the room it wandered into had to be one of them.

My question is, who sabotaged the blood bags? It was pretty well established that Garry and Doc Copper were the only guys who could have done this, and neither of them was infected at that point.

>>82515509
Windows dropped the keys. I'm almost positive it was Palmer who sabotaged. It fits logically and thematically since all related scenes lead right up to Palmer's reveal.

>>82515588
Did they actually reference that Windows dropped the keys? I must have missed that. I watched it recently but it had been so long that I was still connecting names to faces when they were talking about the blood bag situation

>>82515665
I'm blanking on the guy's name but you hear the keys drop when Windows walks in on GUY WITH A NAME being assimilated. I'm just having a shit night here. Can't remember names to save my life.

>>82503030
what would be the point of doing that?
the goal of the thing is to assimilate everything so why would he just kill MacReady?

anyway you can post all you want about jackets and position in the camp and the whiskey theory
but the fact still remains that the director said in an interview that childs isn't breathing in the final scene

When Fuchs gets burned, do you think it was actually a suicide to avoid getting infected? I feel like it makes sense that the Thing would just straight up murder Fuchs rather than try to absorb him. He was the biggest threat to the Thing through his research, and even if he got assimilated he would continue that research to maintain his cover (or because he had no idea he was a Thing, depending on whether that's how it functions). So just killing him and having the others know he's dead is the best way to prevent that research from continuing.

>>82515723
Bennings, the ginger guy who gets shot in the leg then turned on-screen by the thawing Norwegian Thing, surrounded outside the camp and torched after he does that spooky scream.

>>82502474
Now, yes. In the 80's no.

>>82515796
That's the ticket! Thanks.

Reminder that The Thing's OST was nominated for a Razzie and is objectively terrible.

>>82515850
The thing about the Thing characters is that their mini-"arcs" all seem to be split into two non-correlated parts. Like at the beginning a few of the guys got brief characterization, but their eventual roles/fates in the central conflict basically have nothing to do with that characterization.

Bennings is mainly identifiable as getting shot in the leg, but his role is just being the first on-screen human Thing

Clark the kennel guy's whole character seems to revolve around being sad about the dogs getting infected/killed, but ultimately he's just made an example of by Macready when he tries to mutiny and gets shot in the face.

It seems deliberate in terms of staying unpredictable as a story, but makes it difficult as fuck to remember who's who.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXUbHLu9KEc

>>82495707
Apparently the Amundsen-Scott South Pole station in Antarctica screen this movie annually during winter, after the last plane leaves the station.

test

>>82516198
How'd it go?

>>82511359
I actually don't get the comparison but I do think SMAC is one of the single greatest games ever made.

>>82495707
>1. Why didn't the Norwegians tell anyone about the shit going down?
- similar chaos to the U.S. -- e.g., the alien destroyed their communications
>2. When did Blair get infected, and who infected him?
- outside, in the shack (after which, he escaped)
- could be during the testing process, though unlikely--given he was throwing a hissy fit, which would not help the alien
>3. When did the stoner guy on the couch get infected?
- from the dog at the start
>4. Why wasn't this film successful when it first came out?
- a some have said -- related to release scheduling
- because it wasn't you typical "U-S-A!! RAR! RAR! RAR" crap -- Carpenter has to fight Hollyschlock to release the film as is, because the jews did not like the ambiguous ending and a lack of a shirtless Russell, spangled banner drapped across shoulder, bimbo in arm, M16 in the other (*formulaic films do not make the viewing think)

>>82513777
>It's not shitty, it's just not as good.
kys, schlomo schlockstein

>>82516234
it's alive...

>>82515917
1/10, have your (you) and then listen:

>>82516005
Fuck – chills and hopelessness.

>>82516005
ennio morricone is a genius

>>82516028
Why do that to yourself?

>>82516407
to be prepared in case the thing attacks

>>82504635
This is so uniform and over the top it's reminding me of "Gamers Are Dead." Did Carpenter piss a studio off? Is there some reason critics didn't want audiences seeing this movie?

Also
>"The structure of the piece reminds unpleasantly of porno films..." - Daily Variety

What did he mean by this

>>82516519
>Is there some reason critics didn't want audiences seeing this movie?
It's a metaphor for Jews.

>>82516519
>What did he mean by this

If I had to guess he probably meant that the film sets up each of the characters in a seemingly contrived scenario, then shows us as they all get fucked, one by one. The quote reeks of someone trying to trash something and sound smarter than they are.

>>82516590
Assuming you're not shitposting, please explain. This could either be a decent theory or some quality bait.

>>82516619
I was joking, but there's definitely some resemblances.

>>82516005
>>82516005
that theme perfect embodies the film's minimalist undertones

instead of the shallow bombast of modern alien flicks -- where it's all about the pomp of E.T. vs. homo-saps fight to the death -- Carpenter and Morricone depicted arguably the most realistic interpretation of what an "alien invasion" may actually look like: something closer to a viral pandemic, nothing like 'the war of the worlds'

>tfw still now worthy The Thing survival-horror video game

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>>82516686
>pic related

>>82516619
The jews just like the thing are a parasitic creature that causes distrust between fellow men

the worst part about the jew problem is that it is invisible and anyone could be infected which causes distrust in the population

The atmosphere and the setting of the movie were perfect
>that scene when Mac notices that the light in his shed is on even though he switched it off the night before

>>82508916
protip: It will be BvS AND MoS

>>82505176
I honestly don't think most of those complaints are off mark really. Fans are saying the same things in this very thread, only with a more positive tint to their wording. The movie is scant on characterization and the pacing is incredibly unconventional. Both criticized in those blurbs from the 80s and praised here. And the movie is overbearing with its razor edged focus on tension. Again criticized as being more or less torture porn in the 80s, and appreciated now.

The Thing was simply a movie out of sync with its own time.

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>>82516722

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>>82516761
>The atmosphere and the setting of the movie were perfect
two of the genre's most PTSD-inducing scenes exist in this one film

>pics related

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>>82505176
>the "too phony looking to be disgusting" falsity can be partially explained in the sense that the critic had not yet had the benefit of seeing really awful CGI in any film, and thus not be obliged to appreciate practical effects as much as he should have
if that was in fact a complaint of 1982's The Thing, it's an utterly asinine one -- given the 'tangible' nature of its horror was what made it so impacting

compare:
the 2011 schlock prequel; where everything looked like a [poor] video game cut-scene... garnished with some of the most predictable jump-scares in the history of straight-to-video schlock

>mfw the heretofore emotionless Thing alien 'grows' a humanoid head
>...so as to snarl at its adversary

>>82517034
Modern lense. The 80s had a shit ton of quality practical work to admire that WASN'T gore porn. Which this thread has already hashed over but I'll reiterate: the 80s wasn't in the mood for such unrelenting gore. This is the decade that wanted Scarface to be rated X. Mind that.

Make no mistake, practical has a ton of advantages over CG for specific scenarios but audiences can be just as used to it as CG and we were in the 80s.

That all said some of the practical work in The Thing is fantastic but others do look very stiff and fake as well. It was a valid criticism.

>>82516877

The top scene is absolutely chilling every time I watch it still.

I'd just like to remind you we don't have any definite proof one cell is enough to infect an organism, sure it says so in Blair's computer simulation, but it doesn't make it true, it's just an assumption on Blair's side. Notice how the doctor wasn't infected despite the thing biting off his hands during the chest shock.

I'm not exactly a movie expert in sense of watching hundreds of movies per year, but I think The Thing is the g.o.a.t. movie in terms of sound engineering and sound effects, I know everybody always talks about the disgusting visuals, but the most underrated aspect of the film is - the sounds. Jesus Christ, all those screams and moans and primal noises are bonechilling when you watch it during winter, especially alone, not to mention the fucking score. The Shining is similar, the sound effects fucking MADE that movie. Can you recommend me other movies with legit scary and amazing sounds?

The Exorcist 1 and 3 are g.o.a.t. too, especially the 3rd one with all the demonic growling in the background, seriously creepy

>>82505903
>I'd prefer a more logical reason as to why it didn't try infecting them when they were most vulnerable.

I guess it learned from the experiences in Norwegian camp and decided to take a more stealthy approach.

>>82518239
Never thought about it but you're right. The sounds really stuck to me. I'm a musician and I'm trying to write some 80s inspired stuff and the thing is one of my favorite movies ever, maybe I'll sample it for a song

>>82495916
>Because of E.T.
Seriously? E.T. is fucking trash and seriously dated.
>inb4 hurr fuck u millennial
I saw that shit in the theatres when it was fucking new and hated it.

>why didn't the Norwegians try to tell anyone

The guy leading the Norwegian expedition wouldn't allow anyone to use the radios

The most underrated creepy moment of the film: During the final act in the basement when Garry and Nauls got rekt, Mac was calling for Nauls' name when it suddenly dawned on him he's all alone, the horror in that very moment is incredible, the way he looks in camera's direction and pulls off his hood... less is more indeed.

>>82498899
>Palmer
i dont think the thing can be two people at once

Was Blair actually constructing a working spaceship or did it think it was?

>>82518335
Also, by the time they realize they're getting fucked up, a storm has rolled in and cuts out the radios

>>82513777
>>82495916

There was shitty things about it but it was written very well to line up almost perfectly with the original, ya gotta give it that.

>>82516877
People always say Mac's establishing scene was one of the better scenes, but That Bennings scene was an absolute masterstroke.
Instead of attacking, like an animal, The Thing instead chose to use the moment to sow terror and distrust in a way that would only work on another thinking being.
In one scene it completely established not only what it could do to people, but that it was an entity capable of abstract thought of its own, not just mimicking it.
THAT is why the thing is terrifying.

>>82518564
By the laws of the film you're right, although considering it can divide itself at an atomic level logically there shouldn't be any reason why it couldn't assimilate an entire town?

>>82518140
It's almost certainly not the case, or it would have just lain low and infected everyone without any need for violence.

>>82515954
It doesn't help that they're all in parkas with beards and a lot of characters have fucking doppelgangers

Like whats the difference between Palmer and Windows or Cooper and Blair?

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>>82521102
>Like whats the difference between Palmer and Windows or Cooper and Blair?

>>82518140
>>82520225
This. All the assimilations are violent (the dogs, bennings, Garry)

>>82518564
WRONG

>>82521282
show some evidence mate

>>82521288
Dog-Thing existing at the same time as twofaced corpse-thing, it's ability to split into several parts etc. watch the movie mate

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>>82504635
>>82504807
All reviewers should be executed.

What are some other films that you can analyze and theorize about forever? I like that aspect of The Thing.

I know this is used sarcastically around here, but this thread really made me think. Great discussion.

>>82521919
Basically any Kubrick kino, especially The Shining and 2001.

>>82522002
Same, I wish the phrase hadn't been memed to death.

I love when you get a thread on 4chan that's just honest, good discussion with a bunch of people who like or have interest in something sharing ideas. Memes and shitposting can be amusing, but threads like this are why I keep coming back to this website.

We all know that isolation is a huge part of what makes The Thing a great horror film, and that Antarctica was perfect because it was was a barren waste with little chance of escape. Where else could it have worked? In space? The desert?

>A single Thing cell can infect a host
I've always assumed this meant that a single cell COULD but likely wouldn't be able to.

Good thread. Firing up 2011 for kicks. Saw it about 4 years ago and never watched it again. Fuck it, its only 10:47pm. I might watch them back to back. The one thing I remember from the new one is how fucking well it tied to the original.

>>82522420
Where do you live that it's almost 11:00 PM? 9:01 AM here. US.

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I just need to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBzpT7VmSaU
2011 could have been so much better
fucking hell

>>82506415
>So Clarke was human. Guess that makes you a murderer, don't it?
>... Palmer now.

>>82522249
The Thing in space would basically be a mix of Alien films (tone of the first, the threat of it reaching humanity in Resurrection): If the ship returns to Earth with a Thing/Alien alive onboard it's game over, man, game over! Antarctica's likely the only place on Earth that would work. The extreme cold's as much a part of what stops the Thing as the isolation, and even then it's made clear that it's probably only delaying the inevitable. In a regular desert it would need to infect one little lizard suited to the temperatures and lack of water and it should easily be able to walk to a populated area eventually. There's a reason the Thing arriving on the planet is enough to count as an apocalyptic scenario.

>>82511448
>Well, if one cares to watch 2011, the saucer is satisfactorily explained to have been ruined.

That was already explained in the opening shot of Carpenter's film. Why the fuck else would it be crashing into Earth.

Stop bringing up the prequel, it's unremarkable trash.

>>82521102

Cooper:
Old, nose-ring, see his dick when everyone is scrambling around after Mac pulls the alarm during dogtown.

Palmer:
biker-vest wearing fag who smokes weed and is generally lazy

Blair:
Fatass, burping wheezing diabetes guy

Windows:
looks like bob ross

>>82522823
>It isn't exactly like the first film so it's shit!

>>82523518
Actually the problem is it IS exactly like the first film + studio exec bullshit

>>82523518
Why do you need the premake to re-show you what's established in the original?

The Norwegians uncover the UFO trapped in ice; coupled with the opening sequence, we can infer that... it crashed.

Everything in the premake was just backtracking and unnecessarily explaining things that didn't need to be explained. For all intents and purposes, it was a remake with CGI.

I wish people would stop making apologies for it.

>>82510995
>/pol/
>Uncropped phone screenshot

Opinion discarded

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That part when the blood samples start moving freaks me the hell out

Was it ever clarified if when the Thing splits up it's the same as the original one, or are they entirely new organisms?

>>82525239
It always seems to be forgotten whenever people discuss the film

>>82525330
Technically the thing doesn't look like anything does it? Each iteration of it looks different in the movie.

>>82526545
Well in this case the "original" one is the dog.
I'm sure it has an original, psychical form though, I mean it can't just "exist" out of thin air like a spore or be super tiny like a parasite. It must be something that has a brain?

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>>82502217
The film literally spells it out for you, faggot.

What are some other films as bleak as The Thing?

>>82526780
Cannibal Holocaust.

>>82526780
The Road, maybe?
I thought the ending of it was too hopeful though, but it was still pretty bleak.

Why all the hate for the 2011 film? Do you just regurgitate what you read on RedditTomatoes or do you have legitimate criticism?

One pf my favourite bits in this movie is how uncomfortable Mac looks after killing Clark. It's the only scene in the movie that he genuinely looks unnerved and surprised. It's a nice little moment that really reveals a lot about a usually stoic character

>>82527219
Grow up

>>82527219
Do you have any legitimate praise for it?

Aside from The Thing, name top Kurt kino.

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>>82511178
Shame they didn't have the budget to do Naul's death.

Check out the season one episode of The X-Files, "Ice." Directly inspired by The Thing.

>>82528094
If they ever reremake the thing and don't use this scene, it'll be s fucking travesty

>>82526724
burn in hell

>>82525239
>>82525579
Anyone know how it was done? Can you dye mercury and put a magnet underneath?

>>82527219
I think that movie wasn't bad, but I just expected something more from it. It's basically the same thing as original but less scarier. It feels like there is not enough tension between characters and monster's designs could be better and more creative. Maybe I growed up, but on the other hand - Carpenter film still scares me off. Maybe it's just my childhood fears or something like that.

>>82526724
Kek. You no-life nigger.[\spoiler]

>>82528229
They did.
They didn't.
It was.

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There's a lot of very nice poster art for the movie

>>82529687
There's so much imagery to base it off

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>>82529687

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Why didnt the thing just lick everyone while in dog form?

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>>82530151

Did you guys see the void? It was pretty good

>>82530598
I assume it has to body jump via blood, not saliva.

>>82508467
It was pretty strong. It got on his mouth by crawling up his shoulder, deeply penetrating his flesh with it's legs.

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>>82530614

Hey guys..."Fuchs is not Fuchs." Best joke in the film.

>>82495707
So when the thing infects a person, is it effectively controlling them? Or are they just unaware that they've been infected?

>>82532430
I think it controls them, but in such an insidious way that it somehow copies their behaviour...just not totally effectively, as it's soul-less.

>>82526780
Is it really bleak as people say? I found it somewhat uplifting that all crew member were willing to be stranded, sacrifice themselves to kill this thing and somewhat succeeded (Unless you watch the alt ending).

>>82495707
Dude a lot of this has already been answered but your last question bro.

>>4. Why wasn't this film successful when it first came out?

The answer is because it was just so fucking graphic with it's prosthetics that it actually scared and horrified audiences. The part with the chest cavity scene particularly and with the pet Husky's being terrorised and such made audiences baulk. The special effects at that time, in the movie, were absolutely 'high end gore', some of the best on screen horror visuals you could get and for the time, it shows. It took a bit of time before audiences accepted it and then it became a cult classic years after. Years after, people gave it more thumbs up than E.T, kind of in the face of 'the system', if you like.

The combination of the story, logic and the way the movie played out wasn't really something for bedtime reading in a kids dull-lit room if you catch my drift. Carpenter actually nailed this pretty well, as at the time his hit movie on a shoestring, Halloween, was really well perceived so, he was given a good budget for this and Carpenter used it. It's just that the timing was a bit off, but maybe that was John Carpenter's sense of mind at the time, spanner in the summer happiness works so to speak.

>>82522629
Is there any reason they scrapped this and used cgi? It probably wouldnt have saved the film but it would have been better than the shit show we got.

>>82533346
The producers said the prosthetics wouldn't look good at certain camera angles or something along those lines

>>82533519
That was with Griggs. They had it so in the shot the real actor's face would be obscured by the prosthetic one. Producers saw the mock up and were confused by the two heads.

This film would be a 10/10 classic if it weren't for that terrible computer simulation scene.

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>mfw listening to the commentary with Carpenter and Kurt Russell

>>82511649
Oy vey, goyim! Da focus groups want da CGI!

Worst thing about that situation is that you can't just keep to yourself because then all the others might get infected and gang up on you.

>>82534354
Not every retarded decision is a Jewish conspiracy.

>>82504381
>m.o. and morphology really are consistent among the two films
They really aren't.
>In original The Thing is always very vulnerable during transformation and mostly tries to run away if it can
>In prequel it grows long spinning tentacles and casually offs two dudes with them

>>82495707
I think The Thing is my favourite movie, tied with Blade Runner final cut.

>>82534958
This. If the thing was as fast and deadly as it was in the prequel, then the whole crew would've been dead during the Norris scene

>>82535254
NuThing would have assimilated everyone in the Palmer scene for sure.

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>>82507249
I agree.
>that fucking sound it makes when it attaches to his mouth
Both that Thing and the facehugger in Alien are absolute nightmare fuel for me. Something about the *attaches to your face* stuff just gets to me more than anything else.

>>82527219

I spent months following the leaks before it came out. I practically frothed at the mouth when I saw the early trailer filmed on a phone at a convention when it still showcased the practical effects. I was there opening night. It was probably the most disappointing continuation of a film I love that I ever paid to see.

Fuck you.

>>82507249
It's just a big insect. The worst part, there are several identical small things like that. You're making a movie about The ultimate shapeshifting horror, and it assumes identical forms? For shame.

>>82527890

Soldier
Escape from NY/LA
Overboard
Big Trouble in Little China
Tango & Cash
The Hateful Eight (also includes use of The Thing's OST)

>>82527890
Bone Tomahawk, I guess.

Are there any decent movies similar to the thing (e.g. parasitic monsters + body horror)

>ennio morricone composed the score in the same vain as carpenter's style
>the score was simply a very detailed "imitation"
Damn.

>>82510609
>>82510665
>>82510703

It couldn't have been Palmer. We see him later on with Childs watching a show and sharing a blunt. If Palmer was the Thing back then, he'd have assimilated Childs.

>>82535795
Ever heard of David Cronenberg?

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>>82527890
Used Cars also for some Kurt comedy

I never see this in these threads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8faq5amdK30

>>82536241

>dem wimmenz

Overboard and Breakdown too.

>>82536205
I am but Im a bit disappointed in myself for not watching more of his stuff, I havent even got around to watching the fly

>>82495707
>>1. Why didn't the Norwegians tell anyone about the shit going down?
>2. When did Blair get infected, and who infected him?
>3. When did the stoner guy on the couch get infected?
All three questions that don't really need an answer.
>4. Why wasn't this film successful when it first came out?
Marketing+being weird in the birth of summer blockbusters

>>82527890
Stargate hasn't been mentioned yet and I always forget about it because of the show and the fact that Kurt Russell has been in so many great movies it's hard to remember them all

>>82536385

Watch the fly. And watch it close, you hear me?

>>82536499
Will do, but the fly is a classic so it was already on my radar. I was really looking for more unknown/recent similar movies

>>82536591
Splinter (2008) has a similar creature, inspired by this film no doubt.

>>82495707
Blair is pointing at the dog thing with a pencil and then puts it in his mouth for fuck's sake.

>>82536591

The Void

>>82505577

MAC'D

>>82508916
Cloud Atlas
Universal Soldier: Regeneration

>>82527091

Those people are going to eat the boy.

>>82536780

The void is trash.

>>82537618
Yeah that was what I "hoped", and maybe I read it wrong but it seemed like they weren't gonna do it.

>>82537696
I enjoyed it. I mean, it wasn't high art, but it had a great sense of atmosphere and tension that's been lacking in most modern horrors as well as some genuinely scary ideas behind it

>>82495707
If I remember correctly, the Norwegians actually tell the Americans that the dog isn't normal and needs to be killed. Of course since the Americans didn't speak fucking Norwegian they didn't understand.