So where did the Event Horizon travel? Did it literally

>>82436214
through the warp and into slaaneshs butthole

>>82436214

Yes. Also>>82436233

>>82436233
So is this an accurate depiction of what a crew would go through without the gellar fields up or is that just a meme

>>82436214
there is literally no source of hell ever being this autistic

>>82436214
That corpse looks like it has googly eyes.

>>82436279
Going through the Warp in 40k with fields would be risky. Dozens of loyal men and women on the Imperium are taken in the blink of an eye. No one knows where. No one knows why.

>>82436340
How is this at all autistic?

>>82436373
40K lore is so comfy. I'd love a legit adaptation of a crew going through the warp, or one of the first psykers being mentally tortured by a daemon and not knowing what was going on.

>>82436393
because his version of hell is full of buzzwords

>>82436279
well, at least they didn't encounter any Enslavers or Psychneuein on their trip

>>82436393
>>82436433
since we're not on your favorite website - reddit, i can use autistic freely without being banned by the SJW mods

but what I meant is that there's no reason for calling those scenes in Event Horizon "Hell" because there are no mentions of it being full of blood orgies and gore.

>>82436525
t. redditor

>>82436214
This looks like some lame Clive Barker wannabe bullshit

>>82436214
Yes.

Deleted scenes actually covered that too. And we'll never see them because they accidentally got destroyed.

>>82436432
A psyker horror movie set in modern times would be Kino.

>>82436214
it went to the universe where hillary became president.

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>Event Horizon
>In the Mouth of Madness
What is up with Sam Neill and these sort of lovecraftian horror type movies?

Is this the most realistic depiction of Hell in film?

>>82436602
Can someone explain how the whole Psyker-Daemon relationship works?

>>82436760
To be fair I think the only biblical reference to hell is simply "constant fire", but I think endless torture is a better representation.

>>82436720
dont forget possesion

>>82436760
>>82436787
>jesus said "shits hot yo"
>dante said "lel im gunna write fanfiction about people i hate, and put them in hell"
>dante is what people think of as hell
checkmate italians

>>82436760
nah dude Spawn

>>82436818
>Would rather see a lake of fire over Kino torture

>>82436763
Psykers draw on the warp to use their powers. Daemons live in the warp and eat dead souls, because when you die your soul goes into the warp. Since psykers maintain an active link, Daemons can see them while they're alive. They can't just eat them while they're living outside the warp, but they can sort of dive into them via the link and possess them instead.

>>82436763

The immaterium is basically the psychic energy of the entire population of sentient beings in the galaxy. When enough fuckery goes on a demon or demon god is created that inhabits the immaterium.

Psykers draw power from the immaterium and are at risk of being possessed or driven insane pretty much any time they draw power from it. Chaos psykers either directly work for the demons or are powerful enough to use them (all while serving the demon gods).

Ships that "warp" have to travel through the immaterium with the gellar fields that produce a bubble of reality to prevent the ship and crew from being raped by all the demons.

>>82436763
>>82436854
Psykers are basically a bright tasty light to the fuckdeathmurdermoths that are daemons.

>>82436432
I love reading the 40k wiki but I can't imagine actually getting into the series. It's just too much effort for a scenario that is ultimately one really long joke.

>>82436432
FUCKING GOD EMPEROR HBO SERIES WHEN!?

>>82436859
Did the GEOM everhave this issue? Or is he more than just a really powerful psyker?

>>82436892

The Guant's Ghosts series is pretty light reading and it's a lot of action. You don't have to memorize who each Primarch is, it's just basically just a bunch of lumberjacks who get their planet blown up then have to eternally fight in various conflicts.

>>82436892
>It's just too much effort for a scenario that is ultimately one really long joke.
thats not even the hell of playing (and paying far more than you should) only for your faction to be deemed a bitch faction, and being ignored for updates/just used to make others seem good

>>82436925
so they could fill it with faggotry? why bother

>>82436590
>And we'll never see them because they accidentally got destroyed.

I thought I read something about some more of them being found and getting cleaned up. But that seems like a bit ago now...

>>82436957
He's the culmination of all the human psykers on earth in ancient times deciding to kill themselves at the same time to fuse their psychic powers together into one supreme being to lead mankind.

>>82436957
Nope. He was functionally an anti-daemon. Daemon's refer to him as "the anathema" and just being near him causes smaller daemons to just evaporate. Bigger ones just get pain and blindness.

He's basically the D&D concept of positive energy bound into a dude.

>>82437027
Hell, who would even fit as the Emprah?

>>82436925
It'd have to be an original story though. Like what would he be doing in 2017?

>>82436957

He's so powerful that he powers the golden throne even though he's a fucking vegetable.

When he wasn't braindead he knew all about the chaos gods but neglected to tell his space marine chapters.

>>82437077
>In the 41st Millennium He is the God Emperor of Mankind, the sole light for humanity in a sea of grim darkness
>but that is then
>now, in the present time of 2017, he is simply known as George, part time investigator
>he uses his vast psyker powers to solve crimes and shit

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>>82436760

Constantine.

>>82437213
He was Jesus, Muhammad, Buddah, etc right? It'd be cool to see him as this cultish leader in like a third world country that clashes with the government

>magnus fucking finally returns and fights fucking robutt girlyman
>is twice the size of robutt
>2nd strongest psyker behind the big e
>basically does fucking nothing despite having 10k years of prep time and chaos magic on his side

disappointing as shit. should have thrown kharn or someone his way instead

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>>82436760
>realistic
>hell

>>82437333
Nice trips, but who is this directed towards?

>>82437604
god

>>82436340
protip there is no hell

>>82436214
>yfw Captain Fishbourne was a psyker

>>82437690
Wouldn't Sam Neil have been the Psyker?

>>82437749
No, when he's in the vent fixing all the computer shit he dies. Every time after like a third of the way through the movie that he appears it's a hallucination or illusion created by whatever was on the ship.

>>82437749
Dunno, read somewhere that only Fishbourne character had enough power to resist demon, which theoretically means he has at least some of the psyker's abilities.

I have no clue what any of you faggots are talking about. But it's interesting.

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>>82436214
>Tfw 40K can never realease an official story about the first trip through the warp because it'll be called an Event Horizon ripoff

>>82437846
We're talking about Warhammer 40K and its "connection" to Event Horizon.

>>82437846
lurk more newfag

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>>82436432

>>82438065
cringe

>>82438065
So badass.

>>82438065
sounds pretty retarded 2bh

>>82437333
No worries m8, Leman is pissed about what he did to the space yiffs and is coming back to put him in his place

>>82438065

E.D.G.E.L.O.R.D

>>82437817
It would be more likely that he is a blank

>>82438065
This is fanfic.

>>82436760
Hell is the knowledge of being denied the joy of God's love and, more importantly, eternally grieving and longing for it, whether you want to or not.

>>82438220
To be fair if I was being tortured constantly I'd feel like God didn't love me, so it works.

>>82438083
>>82438132
>>82438160

>we're too stupid to understand that 40k is intentionally over-the-top

>>82438295
Which has nothing to do with that image because it's both shit and completely wrong.

>>82438295
>it's retarded on purpose

>>82438134
i'm not worried about that. i just thought it was such a disappointing battle. you have psykers like hyperion, mephiston, tigurius who've done some crazy shit and then there's magnus who's supposedly 2nd strongest in history and he did fuck all against roboute. he could at least have significant like wipe out all the humans on the moon or sent out a storm that destroyed all those ships that came as backup or something other than just job

super disappointing

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>>82436720

We live in a Lovecraftian horror movie!

>>82438327
>thinking anything is going to challenge the suemmarines primarch

>>82437213
To be fair, The God Emperor would probably be like a CEO or politician right now, and that would make for good TV

>>82438065
this isn't how it fucking works at all. Whoever wrote that is retarded.

>>82438349
>suemarines primarch got saved by an ayyy
guiledude was losing that fight p. hard. thank god for tall slim sexy space elves right

>>82438167
>It would be more likely that he is a blank
Dude, that's racist.

>>82438065
This is just inaccurate and an edgelords description. Whoever wrote this was trying to make it out to be something its not.

>>82438417
I know this may be a bit much to ask, but I'm interested in this. What exactly is wrong in the picture?

>>82437213
but anon. he is from anatolia. how would all the nazis deal with the supreme leader of mankind being brown

>>82438469
Pretty much everything.

>>82438477
He was born before turkroaches infested the area

>>82438469
The description of the warp is pretty accurate everything else is false

>>82437213
Honestly I'm really enjoying Lucifer, so I'd be down with another show about an all-powerful being solving crimes and shit.

>>82438517
So the warp is basically like a lovecraftian dimension filled with telepathic demons and other beings like that?

What movie is this

>>82438469
It's just over exaggerations in the name of being edgy and "grimdark". The vast majority of the ships aren't that old, there aren't really that many slaves, the warp travel really isn't that unreliable, etc. In reality, it'd be like taking an old sail boat from the age of the sail from London to Mumbai. Dangerous at times and with definite chances of attack, death, and the travel time is a guesstimate.

Obviously played for comedic effect but it gets under my skin that people take it as canon.

>>82438551
Event Horizon

>>82438547
Yes. It's where the demons and monsters reside.

>>82438556
>It's just over exaggerations
Well even when not over exaggerated is seems really brutal.

>>82438547
It is a dimension created by the emotions of mortals. Because of the CONSTANT WAR its a pretty shitty place. Demons from the four Chaos Gods live here. If the Gellar field fails the people inside DO get fucked, but this isn't all that common. Like an ocean the warp has currents that a Navigator can ride their ship on to get to their destination. The currents of the warp can send a ship every which ways even through time. Warp storms can cut off planets for years

>>82438065
I love 40k and this is completely unnecessary cringetism.

>>82438065
>Omggg warhammur is so cool you guys check this out

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I used to freeze frame this movie on the hell scenes to look at all the disgusting maggot shit

>>82438632
wh40k is literally where the term "grimdark" orginated, it used to take itself less seriously though

>>82438547
It's a dimension given form by the cumulative emotions of all sentient beings in the galaxy or universe. The daemons within are a manifestation of aspects of emotion. The 4 biggest being the blood god, lord of murder and hate, the lord of change and cunning, the prince of pleasure and the father of disease and entropy. they do bad things to people and then eat our souls when they're done.

>>82438469
The time dilation happens but not always to that extent. Sometimes they arrive earlier than the date they set off from, sometimes they arrive 100 years later, but most of the time its pretty close. It's not that unreliable, also losses of 80% aren't typical. There are slave gangs that load munitions though, on the bigger ships they're usually a breed of subhumans that are exceptionally large and strong but its not always that grimdark. It's just played up too much to to appear more edgy.

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>tfw the lore of 40k is actually quite a good read, but plebs latch onto the grimdark elements and think that's all there is

>>82438833
To be fair, I'm not big into 40K, but GEOM, Chaos (all aspects), and Psykers interest the hell out of me. Is that grimdark?

>>82438861
if you like psykers your cool in my book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpmiq8sTH0k

>>82437039
>>82437055
could that be done again?

>>82436525
>I'm literally autistic the post

It implies they went to hell in the movie you turbo sperg. What else would you even consider calling it?

>>82438945
Its possible I suppose but no one knows how. He has to be fed a constant supply of psykers to sustain himself in his current state

>>82438997
>Worshipped as a God
>Got mortally wounded by his own son
Was The Emprah a cuck?

>>82438759
Will game Games Workshop ever include these Harrowed in the game?
Can the Necron stand against them?

>>82438944
I feel like this misrepresents them. They aren't all Igors. I mean Inquisitors are often psykers, navigators come from royal houses. I imagine them classier than that.

>>82438762
>they're usually a breed of subhumans that are exceptionally large and strong
Aren't those mutants?
Wouldn't that be Heretical?

>>82439028
Horus was empowered by all four Chaos gods. Emps allowed himself to be damaged because he couldn't believe Horus was that far gone. When he finally decided to fight back he completely destroyed Horus body and soul with a thought.

>>82438279
the whole torture thing isn't quite founded

According to some God=good, as in they are almost synonymous to be "good" is to be Godly

Hell is the complete absence of God, which could be seen as a complete absence of "good" or anything with that quality, which an absence of good, could be described as bad/torture etc.

this is just what some people think, though if you want the truth just spend several lifetimes learning ancient Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, while also learning the historical contexts of thousands of years of time while accurately guessing anything not absolutely clear :^)

>>82439064
Mutants that are simply the cause of eugenics programs or evovling on a unique world are generally overlooked.

>>82439064
Nah their ogryns, ogryns and ratlings have abhuman status in the Imperium and are accepted members of humanity. Even more divergent strains of humanity were previously accepted into the Imperium before but not these days.

>>82439088
I love this picture so much

>>82438762
>>82438642


some questions

are all the big bad demons directly antagonistic/seek the end of mankind?

Could all the demons be starved/destroyed by an end of their respective quality (IE stopping all war and murder somehow)

How did emotion become the warp/demons? Is it just intrinsic to the universe?

How do demons enter reality?

Which faction is most likely (I know it will never end) to win the grand war?

>>82438065
This is a shitty memepic that fa/tg/uys laught at.

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>>82439197

The 'Nids are going to win.

The worm hole engine hole leads to the other end of the hole in the ground in Aliens covenant

There is no hell, besides the one we live in.

>>82437333
Every single new piece of fluff has been disappointing and undercooked so far. Its End Times all over again.

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>>82439259
Heard you talking shit.

>>82436214
Detroit

>>82436525
>it doesnt fit my personalized definition and preconceived image of hell so it cant be

>>82439285
What's going on?
I saw an announcement of something but I didn't really look into it. Are they rebooting 40k like they did warhammer or is it just new fluff?

>>82436561
Paul WS Anderson is a horrific hack, so that adds up.

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>>82439297

>>82439312
After something like 20 years they decided to paint the entire galaxy with chaos blotches and smears.

>>82439197
Demon like to fuck with mortals but they don't want to actuallu win the war because yes they would get starved out.
Khorne used to be the god of honour not BLOOD, so yes it is possible to change their nature but you would have to get all mortals to change. This include ayylmaos
Demons use psykers as their own personal portals to enter realspace. Or they go through the eye of terror, the eye is a huge gaping hole left from the Eldar fucking a Chaos god into existence.
Each faction has their own trump card but it come down to three in the end it all a matter of time
>Imperium: it is established that more and more humans are becoming psykers if they can evolve in time they win
>Necrons: necrons have massive armies asleep on tomb worlds. If they can wake enough worlds in time they win
>Tyranids: the 'nids are approaching the galaxy with mind numbing amount of number if they get here before the others get their shit together they win
Orks whole existence is war they have already won

>>82439312
cadia fell, chaos tore the universe a new asshole,
the ultramarines primarch was revived and is out and about and now the lord commander of mankind and there's a new eldar god of death etc

>>82439092
>>82439107
I see now, thanks for the info.

>>82439312
New shit
>Abbadon the armless succeded in removing Cadia and is beelining Terra
Magnus went to Fenris and 90% of wolves now Yiff in hell
Eldar succeeded in reviving Ynnead (kinda) they and the Deldar have now joined up again and are trying to get humans in on it, so they helped revive Rowboat Girlyman

Basically the machine in Event Horizon was a lament configuration and hell was the hellraiser hell.
They did the slightly genius thing of making a hellraiser movie without once ever referencing it directly.
Theres even a original pinhead at the end.

>>82439197
>are all the big bad demons directly antagonistic/seek the end of mankind?
Literally none of the Gods of Chaos want to end humanity because they are invested in us. We feed them through our emotions and should we die, they die too, which is why there are groups within the Imperium trying to end humanity and the threat of Chaos. There's also a 5th Chaos God, Malal who embodies the chaotic nature the Immaterium and pursues self destruction.

>Could all the demons be starved/destroyed by an end of their respective quality (IE stopping all war and murder somehow)
Yes

>How did emotion become the warp/demons? Is it just intrinsic to the universe?
Uh, not totally sure on this one. I think in the 40k universe emotions are akin to just a universal property like The Force that permeates reality. Initially this force could be drawn on without problem, but after excessively using it, some large respective spark gave birth to each of the chaos gods. Slaanesh, god of pleasure is the newest Chaos God and he was born a couple tens of thousands of years ago after the Eldar had too big an orgy and became too hedonistic.

>How do demons enter reality?
Through anchor points, usually psykers. Portals to the Warp can be created through all sorts of ways, rituals, sacrifices, wars, prayer or if a particular God just focuses hard on that spot. The problem with the Warp is that its a memetic threat. It corrupts the mind, one guy tainted by Chaos can carve Chaos symbols everywhere unseen in a city, these symbols whisper into peoples minds and turn the weak willed into more slaves of Chaos. This can quickly spiral out of control as they hold rituals to gain the attention of the Chaos Gods.

>Which faction is most likely (I know it will never end) to win the grand war?
No idea. I'll have a think

>>82439398
>Malal
What is this Heresy

>>82439197
So, because Chaos thrives on death and emotion and such, the actual end goal is for war to never end. This is evident because when a chaos invasion happens on a low-tech planet that are using muskets, for instance, the chaos invaders generally use the same level of technology. However, different sects of chaos have different end goals and different chaos aligned entities have actual agendas that involve destroying mankind.

The Eldar are largely responsible for the fuckery that is the warp.

There are a million different ways that demons can enter reality. The basis of Warhammer is that you could take any other paranormal story from any other IP and it could happen in 40k. So everything from that mirror shit in Constantine to blood sacrifices are fair game.

In theory, with the current progression towards endgame, mankind will die, the Eldar will die or run away, the Tau will likely die or create some kind of fuckery defensive matrix and become benign. The Tyranids will take over everything until they run into Orks, who will likely battle the Tyranids literally forever. However, the Orks' only objective is to fight, so that's kinda a winning scenario for them. The most likely to dominate the galaxy are the Tyranids by a longshot. Necrons are a wildcard.

>>82439422
Retconned fluff that hipster /tg/ autists still bring up as if its in the setting still.

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>>82437006
i feel your pain brother

>>82438329

Top tier Ozkino.

>>82439351
>>Imperium: it is established that more and more humans are becoming psykers if they can evolve in time they win
How is more psykers and thus more threat of chaos possession a good thing? There are ten thousand worlds out there that have never known the violence of war, who know nothing of the dangers of the warp, who will deal with new psykers reasonably as we would now and would end up ending their world with their compassion.

> tfw Warhammer Fantasy is getting more respect now in Vidya form than the last 20 fucking years of tabletop.

Also, how are GW bouncing back. How the fuck are people so fucking addicted to girlyman and the god damned fucking sigmarines.

>>82439480
>There are ten thousand worlds out there that have never known the violence of war

doubt.jpg

>>82439528
actually even among the Imperium as long as you aren't on a hive world or forge/agri world. Most people live pretty normal lives. There is also still many uncontacted worlds that are oblivious to the large universe

>>82438065
Okay, actually I just stumbled into what this has to be referencing. HH: The First Heretic, Part 2 Chapter 12.

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>>82439480
It's not. The reason the emperor finally got his shit together after 30k years was because he saw humanity was eventually going to be full of psykers, and they needed guidance before they all fell to warp fuckery.

>>82439480
I don't know anything about the lore, I am the one that asked the questions that began that reply

It would seem that demons will NOT wipe out humans because it would be self destructive, and it can be presumed that self destructive demons would be fought by typical demons and humans

When it comes purely to the demon/human war, humans have an infinite amount of time to win, so presumably they could find a way eventually if there is one

>>82439398
so why do demons attack humans, just because of malice? Or to sustain the emotion that makes them? Both?

>>82439351
Do the demon gods want their nature to change? If khorne was somehow brought to the brink of being the god of honor, would he have internal struggle?

>>82436602
A mix between Chronicle and Exprcism of Emily Rose, this could be kino

>>82436214
It went to a galaxy far far away, obviously.

>>82439638
Demons do what they were made for
Khorne demons KILL MAIM DESTROY
Tzeentch demons make plans and plans within plans
Nurgle demons spread disease
Slaaneshi demons muderfuck
Chaos Gods(Tzeentch specifically) often take steps to prevent the status quo from changing and would likely do all they can to prevent change of themselves since it might lead to a loss of power and therefor status among the others

>>82436760
You guys can't be this retarded.

>>82439732
so they all have an intrinsic desire for power?

As in goals = Power>Current nature>everything else?

What if somehow all emotional beings desired to be as weak as possible

>>82439638
>When it comes purely to the demon/human war, humans have an infinite amount of time to win,
Not necessarily, just because Chaos doesn't want to wipe out humanity, doesn't mean it doesn't want to convert all of humanity into Chaos tainted cultists and perpetually raise us on planet wide battery farms to be tortured or fight for their amusement. If they can destroy the Imperium and our infrastructure, our ability to fight is obliterated and its over essentially. If the Imperium fractures, no one will be able to restore it and humanity will lose eventually.

>so why do demons attack humans, just because of malice? Or to sustain the emotion that makes them? Both?
To create and sustain conflict, also Khorne's people kill us because they like violence. Nurgles people attack us because they're just trying to spread their gift of disease. Slaanesh's people fight us because they enjoy our sensations, both pleasure and torture. Tzeetch fights because he likes the interesting plans and changes we bring, he fights because its interesting.

>Do the demon gods want their nature to change? If khorne was somehow brought to the brink of being the god of honor, would he have internal struggle?
No idea.

>>82439778
>What if somehow all emotional beings desired to be as weak as possible
If you could get most sentient being to commit to feeling one emotion, like love compassion and empathy, that would be an automatic victory over Chaos. But that's just not a rational scenario.

It's not really for mortals to say what the goals of Chaos Gods are, I don't think they have a desire for power, but for existence and the joy their existence brings. They each like doing their own thing and they don't like when the other ones get more powerful because it means they can't do as much of their own thing.

>>82438065
>RAPE and LEMON JUICE

Dammit. Made me giggle.

Friend's been trying to get me into 40k for a while now.

>>82439778
All we know for certain is they don't want to be weaker than the others. They have a tenuous peace because they are all roughly the same in power, plus its hard to destroy a god. Other than that we know they do have agency in what they do but they clearly have a nature formed from the emotions of mortals that they usually follow. If you could get all mortals(not just humans) in the galaxy to go through with it they would become a non issue. But their is still the very real physical threat of the Necrons and the C'tan

>>82437063
Fabio

Only him. Thst appropriate jawline and sufficiently mediterranean look. Although the emperor ultimately is a very burdened person so fabio would have to act really well to convey the character.

>>82437280

>He was Jesus, Muhammad, Buddah, etc right?

No. He might have been Muhammed but Jesus was simply way too soft for the Emperor. One example of emps childhood is that he was preparing his fathers bones for burial, and when touching a hole in the skull he had a vision where he saw his uncle murdering his father. He then went to his uncle and killed him by looking at him angrily.

Not exactly a case of "What would Jesus do?"

With Muhammed you can see many paralells between the two. Both fought wars to unify humanity but also ended up faiing to do so and ultimately create an internal schism that seems unresolvable. Really these similarities are mostly just due to both characters being conquering warlords more than anything else.

>>82439937
Is it true that most religious figures like Jesus was actually The Emperor?

>>82439985
Nothing confirmed just strongly hinted at

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>>82438220
>Hell is the knowledge of being denied the joy of God's love and, more importantly, eternally grieving and longing for it, whether you want to or not.
well, my existence is the knowledge of being denied the joy of a female's love and, more importantly, eternally grieving and longing for it, whether I want to or not, so hell doesn't actually sound that bad.

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>>82436279
>>82436373
>>82436518

>>82439732
>Tzeentch specifically
Its funny that the god of change does the most to keep the status quo

>>82437687
Found the jew.

>>82439638
The forces of Chaos are primarily led by demon worshiping humans, they are the ones that want conquest and all that shit. Demons just tag along cuz shits interesting

So whats the run down of Cadia falling? Why isn't this event basically "Chao wins gg Terra"?

>>82439959
>Not exactly a case of "What would Jesus do?"

How to spot someone who only knows of the sterile pop religion version of Jesus. Jesus was never actually a pacifist, in fact he was down right violent fairly often, most notably for whipping a jew nearly to death for engaging in usury in a temple.

>>82440066
Becaus apparently the anti warp pylons that Cadia had are a dime a dozen

>>82438065
Ok. That actually pretty much sounds like what's happening in Event Horizon to me. Wtf.

>>82440115
Basically Event horizon is what happens when they attempt warp travel without a gellar feild. Which this being their first time they wouldn't have known about

>>82440147
Meanwhile Orkz just fly through the warp unshielded and bash whatever daemon pops out of their weird boyz brains.

>>82440178
Gork and Mork went and bullied Nurgle until he promised not to infect Orks. Maybe they did the same with the other gods?

>>82436279

Yes and no.

The warp and daemonic influence in general in 40K are fairly inconsistent (which isn't to say one portrayal is more accurate then another, just that the warp is capricious in how it works).

Unmitigated exposure to the warp may simply result in a large-scale daemonic incursion- a force of daemons board your ship and start trying to kill everything. This is relatively speaking the most easily dealt with situation as it isn't much different from fighting pirates or something- just kill the invaders.

On the other hand warp exposure can lead to mass corruption where the crew get possessed en masse or brainwashed into destroying the ship. Sometimes, the ship simply comes apart. Sometimes everyone on the ship just disappears without a trace.

>>82436760
Unironically this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7QP56SeeuQ&ab_channel=OTHERSEED

>>82440198
Speaking of orkz, would a blank cause their psychic aura to disappear? Causing their shoddy weapons to suddenly break down?

>>82439259

>an entire hive fleet destroyed by a single Marine chapter
>there are a thousand marine chapters

Nah.

>>82436760
Hell is just other people, anon.

>>82440266
more than one thousand anon, there were still some millions left after the heresy

>>82440246
I would fucking LOVE a Coffin Joe remake done by someone who knows what they're doign. I can't think of anything like it with today's horror films.

>>82440265
Theoretically yes, I don't believe its ever been tried in fluff. It's possible it wouldn't work since it is genetically engineered into them by the old ones

A trip through hell from The Beyond.

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>>82440081

>>82440395
GW is also a bit back and forth with whether or not the Orks psychic manifestations come from an interaction with the warp. They don't really have a clear explanation except that Ork psychic is different than human cuz muh group psychology meme

>>82436214
Where did they get the barbed wire?
Did they made it themselves?

>>82440537
Dude if you're on an exploration ship you'll always wanna go and take along barbed wire just in case you come upon a habitable world and have to set up a fence to keep the illegal aliens out of your sovereign land.

Just common sense, really.

>>82439732
>Tzeench

>Working to prevent change.

Oh, the irony.

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>>82436760

>>82439611
why does this look like something from starsector

>>82436760
Occult (2009) has the greatest depiction of hell in the history of cinema. Shame the movie isn't very well known.

Wh40k threads are always supercomfy. Every time I learn something new about the lore

>>82437687
Protip you're living in it right now

>>82440081
>Jesus was never actually a pacifist, in fact he was down right violent fairly often, most notably for whipping a jew nearly to death for engaging in usury in a temple.

But that's literally about the only example of Jesus using violence.

>>82440845
>implying that shit wasn't laughable

>>82440628
It makes a cool sort of sense. It's like trying to prevent a nuclear war. Sure it'd be an interesting change from the going ons now, but the aftermath would be still, lifeless and boring. He's one to play the long game and hes the complex one so acts against himself.

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>>82438065

>>82440953
Get out of here kiddo.

>>82440628
>>82440959

The nature of man is to seek change. Thus, being empowered by human desires, Tzeentch can enact the most change by keeping things the same.

>>82441034
BRAVO NOLAN
R
A
V
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>>82438329
Comfier than hot chocolate on a winter's day

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>enter a warp hellscape
>the ships crew never thinned their paints or primed their models

Truly horrific

>>82441141
>Hell is an eternity of browsing /wip/

Makes sense.

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>>82438329
>the audience to the moon landings are literally sheep

what did they mean by this?

>>82436818
But Hell was literally freezing in the Inferno.

>>82440416
I'm glad I took the time to read that. I wish I could suspend my disbelief long enough to be a believer, mainly because of how inspiring this is.

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>>82439505
Well tbqh if you can get conned into spending hundreds of dollars on goofy figurines (which you must then paint yourself, nigga what) when literally the whole game could be played on pen and paper, then your hobby doesn't deserve any respect.

Warhammer players are so autistic, toppity kek

>>82439638

I'm pretty sure that in modern lore most of the chaos gods can get power even from natural occurances, like planets colliding and shit.

But yeah, chaos gods want to corrupt everyone and bring Hell on Earth. They don't kill cultists or loyalists, they just let them be and do their bidding. The gods will, however, fight between themselves to become the only one left alive. To do, they will use their cultists and demons, so humans still have things to do.

>>82442591

It's a miniature hobby first, wargame second. You shouldn't get into it if you aren't artistic even to a some degree.

>>82437239

I want a white suit just like god! Fuck you guys.

>>82438329
I love this movie

>mfw classical gas starts

it's great for hangovers

>>82442860
>They don't kill cultists or loyalists

Unless you're a Khorne cultist, in which case it's kill or be killed because the blood god does not care from where the blood flows, only that it flows.

Tzeentch would probably kill you in a heartbeat if his plans required it, but if your a good cultist than he probably has plans for you, which may or may not involve you dying.

Slaanesh probably wouldn't kill you because your too fun to play around with. With that said, I'd much rather just be dead than be Slaaneshs plaything.

Nurgle would probably be the least likely to kill his own cultists. He has that whole jolly paternal motiff going on, and he is all about death and rebirth. Nurgle cultists are notoriously hard to kill anyway.

So I guess most chaos gods don't typically kill their own, but it's not unheard of for them to either kill cultists who have failed them or worse. More than the gods themselves, it's the traitor legions who usually have a complete disregard for the lives of chaos cultists.

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>>82436214
>if you go far enough out into space you go to hell
science does not work this way

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>"Oh boy an Event Horizon thre-"
>It's 40k faggots jerking off.

>>82436214
The Warp

>>82443099
I'm glad there were no kitties aboard. they're so cute

>>82436760
i think preacher this past season had teh most interesting depiction of hell ive ever seen, it was like dante's inferno's hell where its u living the worst experience of ur life over and over again. shit was tight

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>>82443098
who are you quoting?

>>82443222
The scientist in the movie. Didn't you even watch it?

>>82443221
Did that show keep the comic plot, chraacters and events or is it numedia cleansed?

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>>82439335

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>>82439259

>tfw the old ones return from out of fucking nowhere to unify the forces of order and defeat disorder

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>>82443021
Much of the costuming was done with Helmut Lang in mind, Gabriel's white outfit is right off one of his 90s runway shows so I wouldn't be surprised if the suits were Helmut tailoring as well. Just a little nudge in the right direction for you

>it's an Event Horizon thread turns into a 40k discussion episode

Virgins.

>>82443350
first of all, being a virgin is admirable. it's not insulting. second, it's 4chan, what do you expect?

>>82443350

Who do you think start Event Horizon threads? Those who wish to discuss 40k on /tv/.

>>82443350
/tg/ is the only decent board left on this site though

>>82436214
When I was in junior high I was a big Games Workshop guy, I played 40k with my friends. I watched this movie and actually called up the trolls in Montreal to ask them if they were going to take legal action against the filmmakers. They actually indulged my moronic question and talked me through basic IP laws and discussed it with me. Must have been a slow day there. Nice thread.

>>82443409
Horseshit. /tg/ went down the drain.

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>>82443366
>being a virgin is admirable. it's not insulting.

hahahahaha pathetic permavirgin

>>82443520
reread what I said
virgins are cool.

>>82443347

I thought it was perfect. I could totally see Lucifer being all gungho about being dressed all in white all the time just so he could keep feeling radiant. Even as he has all the black slime below his knees.

I'm a pleb and Constantine is one of my favorite movies for all the little touches.

>>82436525
your version of hell has dicks everywhere I presume?

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>>82443550
I thought Lucy presented himself the way he did because it was what his intended audience expected of him. Reasoning being, when these things manifest, they do so specifically, always, in order to control lesser beings. It fucks them up when they are forced to manifest and their audience doesn't give a fuck about their presentation. It's insulting, but worse, it greatly diminishes their power at hand.

>>82443495
Yes. It used to be great, now it's decent.

It's the only decent board left.

What is the end goal for the Tyranids?
Who created them and where do they come from?
Who controls them?

>>82443548
If you need to do a sacrifice for a blood god, yes, sure.

>>82443629
this cringe fanfic was already posted

>>82443266
its not numedia cleansed, but it desnt follow the comic plot for the first season. the first season is mostly introduction and next season it looks like tehy will move towards the comic plot.

the cahracters are more or less on point tho. tulip is okay, jesse too, he has some good moments. but the standout characters are cassidy (joe gilgun is some inspired ass casting) and odin quincnnon

It's just a hallucination of one guy going into cryogenic sleep. All aspects of the movie fits with sleep paralysis.

>>82443702
>What is the end goal for the Tyranids?
absorb biomass and grow
>Who created them and where do they come from?
they came from the intergalactic void, presumably from another galaxies they already consumed. and it is not known who created them, perhaps they just evolved on their own to be the perfect predators
>Who controls them?
no one

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>>82436760
I believe if such a place would exist it would be tailored to each individual soul.

So you can experience your own personal fears over and over again.

>>82443772
so... they're like the 600 pounds life people, but... IN SPACE?

>>82440416
This is probably one of the most idiotic things I have ever read. Give me my 5 minutes back anon.

>>82443827
more like space locust

>>82443819
meh, for me hell would be souls (not even minds, just souls aka emotional essence) in a non-physical (maybe even non-temporal) place being "tormented" and never getting used to it.

>>82436214

>Watching Event Horizon
>OH MY GOD THAT'S THE FUNKY SHIT

good movie

>>82443853
so... exactly like the 600 pounds life people?

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>>82436214
I imagine hell being like having a very severe fever while spinning and being flung around in complete darkness for all eternity.

>>82440416
I would personally take the time and slap the anon who wrote this into a coma. Jesus would too, probably.

>>82443687
>now it's decent.
Horseshit. It's fucking horrible.

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>hell is punishment for eternity
>for what you do in your measly 70 years of life
>not even punishment for genocide or anything, you suck your bro's dick once for 3 minutes and you go to hell for all eternity


Who thought up this shit

>>82443828
>>82443991
What don't you like about it? It's pretty much the solution to today's cucked christians

>>82444166
God I fucking hate faggots. Precisely because you cunts pull this victimizing "lel Religion is so nuts don't discriminate against me" meme.

Fornication of any kind is a sin. Don't single yourselves out like some special snowflakes you fucking cunts.

>>82443772
>presumably from another galaxies they already consumed
>implying they're not actually fleeing from something even worse

>>82444210
But I'm a girl.

Anyway I don't know jackshit about religion so I have a question, maybe someone can answer me: does the bible say anything about converting people, holy wars being rightful and all that stuff? Does it say to punish the people who sin? I mean, if they're going to be punished in hell for all eternity what is even the point of punishing them here on Earth for what would be such a meaningless fraction of the vast eternity?

Is Event Horizon worth watching? I keep meaning to download it but then I stumble on reviews (yeah, I know) that are mixed to outright negative and it always puts me off.

I just want comfy moderately-hard science space shit. There's fuck all in that genre for movies.

>>82443878
I have a perfect Idea of where to take Event Horizon. Yes it takes place on a space station attached to earth and everyone who frequents the station.

>>82444201
>cucked christians

Today's Christians are stupid not cucked, and incapable of reform. The Church will be dead inside 100 years if it doesn't get on with the times, because at this point it does not have the power to stem the tide, merely ride it.

>>82439259

Are the tendrils supposed to be flight patterns or the arms of a gigantic creature?

>>82444410
It's pretty good.

>>82444473
do you know what "hive" and "fleet" means?

>>82444410
They butchered it mid production.

>>82444473
bigass organic fleets

>>82444450
Which is how it should be. Let it die, if it's all not just a bunch of fanfiction, God please send a second Jesus or something.

>>82444410
No, it's not. /tv/ only likes it cuz it's edgy.

>>82436760
>*kills you*
>"Heh... you tell me."

>>82436279
You can travel the warp without Gellar fields if Chaos fells like it. For instance in a galaxy with fuck all life and conflict in it.

If the universe is full of life and conflict then going through the warp without protection is a bad idea since they dont need you to get to your destination and they will fuck with you.

>>82444503
>>82444542
Neither of those really answer his question. What do the hive fleets LITERALLY look like?

>>82439259
>Orcs stalemate them
>Crons beat them
>Chaos beats them

I dont think they can do much.

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>>82444836
Big fucking swarms of organic looking ships.

>>82438065
No wonder edgy children love this rubbish so much.

>>82438759
2 pages of text, 50% of which is devoted to talking about how the battle was purged from records.

>>82443941
>>82444166
>>82444404

No, not really, Gehenna or Hell, is non existence. You don't exist at all. It's like you're a asleep, but you're never waking up. You simply don't. You're not aware you're asleep and you don't dream. You're not in God's memory, not reserved, not recalled. Nothing. The Rich man and Lazarus is a parable, Hell in this case represents the rich man, the ruling pharisees, being forever cut off from the Lazarus class, The Disciples and later the Apostles and other First Century Christians who'd follow Christ, were literally in the bosom of Abraham, in this sense, they were in the bosom of Christ and was especially Loved by him. His spirit was with them every step of the way. He literally told them his Father has given him an inheritance, them, and he'd be with them through thick and thin.
You see, when the bible says Torment you have to ask yourself, To Whom views eternal death as Torment. Remember, God has never slept, he doesn't understand sleep like we do, and to be bound in sleep unable to awake for God, is a torment. You were a once thing but now you're forever bound to not existence, To God that would be torture. Existence is paradise, it's a literal gift. Don't be fooled by what happens in Satan's system and don't view the world through the eyes of one who suffers here, In God's bright beautiful system, the only message will be his, the only pleasures will be the purest ones void of Satanic influences.
I am scum. Even on my best days I'm still bound by sin's law because I'm filth, a low life scum bastard. I should be beaten often for my sins, I am a dirty and bad, and I'm occupied with sin's measure and sin's pleasure. What a disgusting monster I am. I do study when able and I question, everyone about everything, and in my searches I found this.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002521?q=hell&p=par

>>82444936
go back

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>>82436214
It traveled in time to right after the writers wrote the first draft to the third act.

That explains why a movie that was doing so well and had such promise fell apart and became a 6.

>>82444980
Nice fanfiction, but I love sleeping so that would be great.

>>82444980
Right it's "Hell is the absence from God" shtick.

>>82436720
Both had horrendously horrible third acts too.

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>>82444836
gigantic swarms of kilometers long gigeresque aliens that span over hundreds of lightyears

>>82444473
yes

>>82444576
Suppose so. It's not like there haven't been religions that died before, tho not in recent times.

>>82444980

It's Sheol, not Hell

>>82444904
>>82445082
But who is their leader?

>>82445082
That's the edgiest shit I ever heard. I like it, in a stupid kinda way.

>>82445145
They don't have one. It's a collective consciousness. A Hivemind.

>>82445145
Tyranidus, a huge mega giant alien.

>>82445165
40k is several factions trying to out edgy each other plus orks

>>82436214
HELL DIMENSION IN SPACE IS LITERALLY BASED

NC17 WARHAMMER MOVIE WHEN

>>82445232
That much I know, I played those RTS games back in the day. Still, this is unfathomable edge.

>>82445034
No, it's not great. You were created to live forever, not be here suffering awfully then die eternally. Forever is our measure. Sadly, too many people believe in never to be proven big bangs and impossible unions of consecutive left handed molecules, Trillions of times consecutively left, up to the most complicated purposeful information ever, DNA. Brownian motion is a random application of states, to solely link, consecutively, twenty left handed molecules unto a protein molecule and to do so, trillions of times and be able to use these linking mechanism to describe in detail a chemical story that describes and commends and adheres to, life, even in its simplest form is several Trillion Quintillion against such a thing being at all possible. That's like saying a gorilla's smashing on a key board for a billion years but is able to write flawless the code for Windows 10 which is 43 million lines of purposeful code. Amazingly, human DNA is well over 3 billion tiers of purposeful code. But Of course you have observable proof of your messiah, the magical amino acid that not only self created but went on to form life and of this magical messiah and his apostles, the alele frequency that apparently existed in life for whatever reason that afforded one creature to become its successor species.

In short, for any of it to be real, you'd have to provide for us observable, testable, recreate able proof of Creature A, slowly, purposefully, becoming Creature B, and the evidence has to be both genetic and skeletal of one creature slowly, becoming its successor species. Otherwise it never happened.

>>82443588
No, it's obviously his version of heaven.

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>>82445165
yeah, Warhammer is so fucking dumb and edgy and grimdark that it becomes cool again, I love it
>>82445145
they have something hivemind, collective gestalt consciousness they share through their psychic abilities. the bigger the swarm, the stronger and cleverer their hivemind gets, if they're cut from it, they revert to being mindless beasts

>>82445304
So, are you saying god isn't real?

they made a 40k movie / tv series??

>>82445254
Tyranids are easily one of the least edgy factions though, they/it just want to eat everything, and they got big enough to do so on a galactic level (they're from outside the galaxy and its implied they ate everything in their own)

Are Dark Eldar Slaneesh worshippers?

>>82445399
What's the most absolute grimdark and edgy shit in 40K?

>>82445463
thats a very, very hard question to answer

>>82445537
Gimme some of the best hits.

>>82445463
Dark Eldar are Coldsteel tier edgy.

In my opinion one of the most grimdark pieces of fluff/ lore is that, in order to produce anti daemon ammo for their weaponry, the Grey Knights sacrifice an innocent citizen for each and every fucking bullet. That or the thousands of too weak psykers that are sacrificed to help the Emperor power his Golden Throne every day.

>>82445446
no, they are terrified of chaos, more so the normal Eldar, because Slaneesh is slowly eating away at their souls, so they have to capture prisoners and torture them in horrific ways, both for their enjoyment and to fill that ever draining hole

>>82445570
there you go

>>82445463

Probably Chaos cults?

>>82445638
>>82445645
>>82445655
I should really get into this stuff, this is comedy gold.

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>>82445463
for edgy, I'd say Dark Eldar. not only do they look like 90s pop metal band, not only are they a race of space pirates and slavers, they literally have to rituastically torture themselves and their slaves to create as much sensations as possible and consume other peoples souls to avoid their own souls being consumed by chaos god Slaneesh

>>82445655

I was wrong, it's this:

>>82445645

>>82443520

Enjoy hell

>>82445684
Its pretty fun to get into desu, the setting is over the top in a generally self aware way

>>82445378

They made a CGI movie that is complete fucking garbage.

>>82444166
>>not even punishment for genocide or anything

I think you miss the whole, thou shalt not kill, deal.

Murderers are going to hell along with the faggots, faggot.

>>82436525
God you're a loser

>>82445775
It looked awful too, but somehow they got John Hurt, Donald Sumpter, Terence Stamp and, presumably to make an Event Horizon connection, Sean Pertwee.

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>>82445570
>>82445463

The Hive Cities can also be considered grimdark. Giant ant mounds inside closed off hulls, stuffed with billions of people because the air outside is death. Imagine several layers of Hong Kong stacked upon several, progressively more shit-filled layers of Delhi with a normal city on top and everyone below is a disposable pleb that will never see sunlight or a ceiling that isn't less than 3m high unless they enlist in the Imperial Guard in which case they get trained and deployed to one hellish war or another where their average length of survival is 15 hours.

>>82445841
>average length of survival is 15 hours.

I love this. What do you recommend to a complete pleb like me that played the games a decade ago and nothing else if I wanted to get in the franchise?

>>82445378
>>82445775

Some guy is making an animated movie in his basement. So far he's got a trailer and a few minutes of footage. So, in about 10 years he'll be finished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZc6cr6G2E4

>>82445884
Storm of Iron novel, and the one after it for sure. they are seriously good.

also the book 15 hours

>>82445924
Thanks lad. I know what I'm reading on my way to work

>>82445892
it was great until Inquisitor Coldsteel "Badass" McDonut appeared

>>82445884
Books? First of all I'd recommend not starting with any Space Marine fanwank.

Eisenhorn trilogy is a good starting point. It's the story of an Inquisitor doing inquisitorial things - it introduces more mundane bits of the setting without going overboard.

Gaunt's Ghosts is a metric fuckton of books following an Imperial Guard regiment.

Ciaphas Cain books by Sandy Mitchell are a more humorous telling of an egotistical and more than slightly sociopathic Commissar who, in his quest for a peaceful job somewhere far removed from the front lines, gets himself deep in shit and every time he digs himself out his fame grows, so he keeps getting shittier and shittier assignments.

Of course you could also start with the Horus Heresy series. A very, very lengthy retelling from the 30th century of how it came about that the 40th century is such a colossal clusterfuck.

>>82446012
Yeah he kind of ruined it. It's like Donte all over again

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>>82446047
>his quest for a peaceful job somewhere far removed from the front lines, gets himself deep in shit and every time he digs himself out his fame grows, so he keeps getting shittier and shittier assignments.

>>82446012
I'd go so far that only the 10 seconds of Space Marines and Dreadnoughts during the parade are good. Awesome sound design anyway.

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>>82446047
>gets himself deep in shit and every time he digs himself out his fame grows, so he keeps getting shittier and shittier assignments.

That sounds amazing

>>82440845
>Occult (2009) has the greatest depiction of hell in the history of cinema.
DUDE LSD AND JELLYFISH LMAO

Gotta say. This was a better 40k thread than I've had on either /tg/ or, god forbid, /lit/ in a while.

>>82445363
I'm saying, Brownian motion does not DNA, Create.

>>82445807
I think he meant the gravity of the sin

>>82440845
I was amazed at the CGI. Pretty life-like images despite how shit tech must have been in 2009. One of those scenes which never leaves you, kinda like snuff clips.

>>82438065
>8/10

>tfw you realize dante invented the concept of hell and hell is never mentioned in the bible which means it's not canon

>>82444298
It's 50/50. Fleeings a possibility that fits with the nature of 40k, but the idea of something so vast it consumed a galaxy and wants another is also quite terrifying. I don't really like the idea of fleeing because it implies some kind of eldritch horror that even Tyranids can't handle, 40K's not really about the eldritch impossible horrors but physical threats.

>>82446828
>disinformation kike strikes again.

Gehenna, Hades and Tartaros are all mentioned in the bible. The only thing Dante invented is the structurized and almost bureaucratic process of sorting sinners and applying an ironic punishment.

Just because G_d's Chosen People don't have to concern themselves with hell, doesn't mean you can push your heresy on Christians.

>>82445884
That's not actually accurate for the Imperial Guard across the board. The 15 hour survival life is just from that specific story

>>82446982
Hades has nothing to do with this. Hades is the god of death and evil and darkness in greek's myths, it has nothing to do with the real religion

>>82444298
There's a theory that the tyranids are fleeing from the Orkz.
Orkz are insanely widespread, imperium probes sent outside the galaxy were still receiving shitloads of Ork chatter from unexplored regions of space.

>>82447039
Do you really not understand how words in ancient texts work or are you shekeling me, Itzhak? To clarify - for abstract concepts they couldn't just make up a word like we are doing right now and assume everyone knew what it meant so they chose well known words for the same thing.

>>82446088
>>82446158
It's actually hilarious. He gets assigned the most dangerous fucking war zones time and time again and his troops and everyone else thinks he loves it and he has to keep up appearances or risk being executed.

It's actually crazy how good he's gotten because of all this bad luck. He once fought a chaos space marine in a sword battle and survived long enough for help to kill the marine. An ordinary human lasting against a space marine in melee combat essentially never happens.

>>82447040
I feel like thats a bad theory. The orks would never try to exterminate them for fear of losing out on glorious endless war. The tyranids get a massive and rapidly replenishing fungal farm the size of a galaxy. It's win-win.

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>>82445684
>>82445570
>>82445463
I'll offer up some edge from the Imperium, i.e. the protagonist faction.

>Arcoflagellants
Heretics whose sins are considered so grave that simple death is not sufficient might be granted the punishment/mercy of arcoflagellation. They are converted into living weapons to redeem their sins through glorious combat, whether they wish to or not. Arms are sheared off and replaced with electro-flails or pneumo-claws. Flesh filled with combat drugs and implants that confer superhuman strength and speed at the cost of mindshattering rage and agony.
Between combat they are kept sedated by the action of yet more drugs and the Pacifier Helms permanently sealed over their heads. These replace all sensory input with calming hymns and religious iconography. Only at the command word of the Inquisitor that owns them do the helms switch off and free the arcoflagellants to rush towards the Emps enemies in an orgy of blood and death.
According to some sources the agony they endure and good deeds they commit are supposed to purify the arcoflagellants souls in order to better feed the God-Emperor when they die and he absorbs their souls.

>Penitent Engines
Similar but somewhat more voluntary.
These are weapons of war employed by the Adepta Sororitas or Sisters of Battle. Typically 'crewed' by religious figures, either priests of the Ecclesiarchy or sisters of the Sororitas that have committed some grave sin and wish to repent. Again the process starts with an agonising cocktail of superdrugs but these sinners are then crucified on the front of giant bipedal mechs armed with enormous flamethrowers and power-field emitting circular saws. Hardwired into the control system of the mechs with fibreoptic cables to the spine these tortured penitents then charge at the frontlines of enemy forces frantic to redeem their sins and end their suffering. Of course the many chem-injectors stabbed into their veins are designed to delay this release as long as possible

>>82447248
> or risk being executed.

It's more that he doesn't want to meet the fate of most zealous Commissars - 'accidental' friendly fire so he pretends to be a warloving hero that cares about his troops.

>>82447248
Are there ebook versions of these anywhere? I live just outside of nowhere and ordering physical books usually takes 1-2 months before delivery.

>>82447394
Yeah, go on piratebay and search up ciaphas cain.

>>82447394
There are also audiobooks of pretty much every Warhammer fluff book. They are also 'around'

>>82436720
>What is up with Sam Neill and these sort of lovecraftian horror type movies?

He is a gentleman and a scholar.

>>82447422
There's only one torrent of them on TPB, and it's borderline incomprehensible due to many spaces being missing and words being chopped up.

>>82447694
torrentproject.se Ciaphas Cain
tons of hits