So let me get this straight: the Terminator asked for the Plasma

poor gunshop owner :(

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>>82385976

He shot him because he became an obstacle. He told him he couldn't load the gun in the store, so he took him out.

>merchant of death
>dying by the very weapons of hate he sells
I see nothing wrong

I've never been in a gun shop. Is it common practice to put ammo on the counter and then wait until the last second to comment on somebody loading a gun they don't yet own?

>>82386409
It's called honesty

>>82386409
Go try it and report back

>Clean reboot
We re-make the first two from the ground up, updated in time-frame and enhanced with current/theoretically probable/possible tech (think Black Mirror.)
>Think bigger
Social media. Cloud server. Google. Buzzwords. The Terminator is supposed to blend in with its surroundings, pass off as human, get as close to its target as possible to fulfill its mission. Instead of a mute murderer, the Terminator sent to assassinate Sarah Connor poses as a hot guy on social media set up as a date by a friend, from a friend’s hacked account (friend can be dead too, Terminator don’t give a fuck) - Skynet will have access to every database on Earth in the future, so why the hell wouldn't a Terminator be able to utilize that information to take over a pre-existing account after killing the owner of said account? The person it assassinates to get close to Sarah could even be the original timeline John Connor’s father, and Skynet could model the Terminator to reflect that person with access to everything it knows.
>Smarter Skynet
Original Skynet was retarded – our new Skynet isn’t quite as stupid. It won’t nuke the entire planet, it’ll utilize everything it can to eradicate humans – viruses, chemical warfare, conventional ballistics, drones. In fact, the Terminator program can even be built up from drone programs, like Robocop.
Skynet will also have a clearer purpose and endgame: remove the human infestation after sufficient research to build its own race of cybernetic life to propagate itself throughout the universe. The problem with Skynet though, is that it is not particularly innovative, it’s just really good at finishing what humans started like time travel, drones, FTL drives, clean fuel.

>>82387606
>Don’t remake Rise of the Machines, but use it and Salvation as resources
>solid state trilogy
Think LOTR. No recasts, films released on a yearly or bi-yearly basis. Leave breathing room for a possible fourth if it makes fat stacks, let the first one stand on its own if it doesn’t generate a profit. If successful, it could launch a franchise (Robocop vs Terminator, Terminator in the Wild West, Harold and Kumar meet the Terminator, the Fast and the Terminator, Star Trek: Terminator, Star Wars: Return of the Machines, X-Men: Terminator vs Sentinels.)
>themes about the mutability of the future and stuff, memories, time travel paradoxes and other shit like that
With each film, future John Connor and Skynet gain new memories – Skynet even evolves according to whatever tech its parent corporation finds from each Terminator encounter. The basis of the T-800 is first John Connor’s father, but when his father changes it becomes based on itself in a time loop. The actor playing John Connor could even subtly change appearance (via makeup) from the first one to the second.

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>>82385976
why would a terminator need a lasersight?

He shot him because he had no money to pay for the weaponry he was stealing and it would have been easier than letting him live and letting him call the police on him.

>>82387855
why not just choking him, wouldn't that alarm the nearby police?

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>OP had to change his post from yesterday to make it an even more inane and innocuous question

jesus christ

>>82387606
That's literally Genisys tho and that was fucking awful

>>82388001
pretty sure an extremely durable killer robot doesn't really care about encountering police. he single handedly clears out a whole police station in the movie.

>>82386370
"At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality."
che guevara

>>82388372
"kills"

so why didn't they cover guns with skin so they could be transported in the past?

>>82388318
He did bail though after the crash on the tunnel.

>>82388612
*kills you with love and hope

a different world is possible anon, take the red and yellow pill

>>82388318
>>82388001
>>82387855
Well yeah but that was because Sarah was in the police station. He doesn't want to cause unnecessary attention and blow his cover.

Maybe the reason he shot him instead of choking him is because he assumed there was an alarm button under the desk or nearby.

>>82388705
let's create a world goberment that will disolve itself eventually
yeah no

>>82386370
>weapons of hate
moron

>>82388318
>an infiltration robot doesn't care about drawing attention to itself

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Look at this frame, look how cool it looks.
How hard can it be to make a down and dirty sequel to Terminator?

>>82388641
Anything can go through the time machine, Skynet just tells the terminators it's impossible because it gets a kick out of sending them back in the nude

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>>82389017

>>82387815
To make sure the Noir club scene is real heckin' neato

>>82388641

If you need skin to go through the machine then how come the T-1000 went back with no problem?

why wouldn't the terminator know that those weapons didn't exist?

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>>82389083
can you imagine this shot being done today?
the laser would be cgi

>>82389123
also why not grow skin around guns and stuff

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>>82389136
he probably wasn't sure about the date he was

>>82389017
>How hard can it be to make a down and dirty sequel to Terminator?
T2 was a huge budget, blockbuster movie known for its special effects. And it's still how most people remember the series. The public doesn't associate Terminator with scale-scale, dirty sci-fi horror anymore. I agree that the next attempt should be more along the lines of the first movie, but that's not going to happen. After something like T2, no studio is going to want to go back to a low-budget sci-fi thriller.

>>82388641
>only things covered in skin can be sent back in time

wait, is that the actual explanation given by the writer? what a load of horseshit.

>>82388641
they were out of skin

>>82389222
how do you know it isn't true

>>82387815
The laser sight works as a backup/substitute for the terminator's aiming system. It also looks cool, which is very important for a terminator.

goddamn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t2TFMhR454

summer kino

>>82389123
I think they sent it inside a skin bag or something.

>The terminator removed the stock and converted his AR-18 to full auto then ne'er used the iron sights when shooting
>Still kept the laser sight because he needed help with accuracy

Something doesn't add up there.

>>82389222
It would totally make sense if it was a time machine built by humans, with an oganic-only filter that Skynet couldn't bypass. I'm pretty sure it wasn't built by humans though.

>>82389321
Is the 3D meme ever going to stop?

>>82389222
how else would you explain it

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>>82386309
That close up of the shotgun is so good.

>>82389391
I think its just the limits of the technology for whatever reason, that time travel just works that way and can't work any other way

>>82389136
Just watcha see pal

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>>82389017
compare it to this frame, looks how clean everything looks, it's like he's doing his cardio at the gym

>>82389369
>80s action movies need 1:1 weapons realism despite it having absolutely no impact on the plot and makes the picture markedly less fun to watch

what did you mean by this anon?

>>82389558
is that actually a scene from the newest movie? it looks like an snl parody

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>>82386260
>>implying all gun dealers arent fucked up racists

OOZY NAIHN MILLAHMEADA

>>82389123
>>i watched my phone more than the movie

kys

the t1000 is a "polypnumetic alloy"; "literally living metal"

>>82389614
Read this in his voice

>>82389391
the science doesn't make sense though. skin is a more complex material than something like cotton or metal, so if anything a metal skeleton, or a bunch of clothes, should be easier to send back.

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>>82389558
look at the lighting , it's all wrong

>>82389600
oh shit, i thought the same thing. the cop chasing him looks exactly like jimmy fallon in that pic.

>>82389601
One of my favorite movies.

Wet backs forgot their briefcase.

>>82389702
Of course, but I was talking about a possible hardcoded restriction system that only allows a being with human skin through, hence why it let the terminator through but nothing else.

Is there any other movie where Arnold is the villain? Other than Mr Freeze.

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>>82385976
How did terminator 2 and 3 happen when during the police interrogation in 1, he said the time machine was going to be destroyed right after he went through? Were there more?

>>82389938
Jingle All The Way. Myron did nothing wrong and not buying your child the latest toy is literally child abuse.

>>82389950

The intro of 2 explains it, also

>3

Fanfiction, who cares.

>>82389950
I think skynet has their own.

>>82389938
predator

>>82389938
Hercules in New York. He murders a bitch for laughing.

>>82389950
The events of 1 changed history. The chip and arm sped up Skynets creation, making the war go a different route.

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>>82389558
Is that actually in the new movie?

>>82386309
Were Spas 12's even California legal back then? I don't even think they were very available at all. Come to think of it, he also gets a few automatic guns too. Nice plotholes, Cameron.

>>82389680
no

it's a mimetic polyalloy - meaning it can copy shapes

where the fuck are you getting polypnumetic from

The better question is why'd he want an Uzi 9mm.

>>82390562
Common ammo, high rate of fire, easy to conceal.

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>>82390562

Everyday until you like it

>>82390562
you mean da ooozee nein milimeduh

>>82389136
>Go back to jurassic age.
>"Ayyy where the t rex at"
>t rex wont be born for another 100 million years

>>82386260

If only he had a gun, this wouldn't have happened

>>82390562
why wouldn't you want one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjebHmkTV5s

>>82389123
There was a deleted scene where the cop investigating finds a layer of "skin" near where the T-1000 came back

>>82391387
link?

>>82391267

That thing barely has any recoil, and that's an old ass man using it too.

>>82389579
>>82389369
Didn't the NRA compliment Arnie on how accurate his gun handling was in Terminator 1?

>>82388372
>Proceeds to massacre honosexuals and political opponents

>>82387606
Fuck shut the fuck up and die faggot

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>>82389117

>>82389558
If anything I think that shot looks dirtier, but courtney looks cleaner

>>82391459

As did the technical weapons advisor on the movie, even in 2 all the cast did extensive weapons training, Arnie ripped the shin from his hand practicing the shotgun twirl and Patrick learned to fire and reload the handgun so meticulously in order to make the T-1000 seem more inhuman and proficient.

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>>82389614
kek

>>82391559
It's supposed to be a dark alley, look how bright everything is, why does he even need the flashlight?

>>82391654
Oh I see what you're saying
But it didn't really happen at night from what I remember so him using a flashlight is weird

>>82391682
I mean look at him, looks like he's running on a treadmill thinking "here I go :P, hahah"

>>82391568
imagine being so buff your hands have shins

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>>82391717

I meant skin, derp.

>>82391753
I always thought this was the coolest fucking thing when I was a kid.

>>82391753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR12SXRWfiA

>>82385976
The Terminator
>suspensful thriller about an unstoppable unkillable creep
>shot like a horror movie
>80s as fuck
>arnie is basically jason voorhees
>several effect shots do not hold up
>11/10 cult flick

Terminator 2
> big budget PG-13 popcorn action flick
>look how cool arnie is
>90s were never cool
>robert patrick is the best actor in the entire franchise tee bee aytch
>effects still hold up
>8/10 decent mindless entertainment

>>82392176
the 90s were cool though

>>82391609
Why would a robot check his hair?

>>82392349
Generic human-like mannerisms to make him convincing

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>>82392176

T2 is easily better than T1. Holy shit.

>>82392508
I bet you think Aliens is better than Alien

>>82391507
Why are 80s babes so hot?

>>82389989
>implying Sinbad isn't the villain
>implying it wasn't Sinbad who put Jamie in mortal danger.
>implying Sinbad isn't the one who puts on Turboman's big bad's costume.

>>82385976
The Terminator had no money to pay for the guns. Logically it's smart to just shoot the clerk and disappear before the cops get there

>>82390234
Is anything legal in Cali?

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>>82390562
He didn't learn the 'lol only 9mil' meme until the 2nd movie.

>>82392508
It's a very different movie. Like nightmare on elm street sequels. T2 is an action comedy, T1 is entirely humorless horror thriller. T2 is better in only 1 respect: it has an actual budget.

>>82385976

>Arnie was legit scary in 1
>plays a teddy bear nice guy in the rest

GRR

>>82389680

The T-1000 is a polypneumatic alloy.
>Polypneumatic alloy? What's that?
He shoots compressed air in many directions.

>>82391960

it still is

>>82391507
I'd love to hear Cameron's thoughts on how he came up with this scene; it's brilliant.

>>82387606
>>82387642
Go work for Hollywood pls

>>82387815
Why WOULDN'T you want a laser sight? What are you, some kind of homosexual?

>>82393179

really, you should ask harlan ellison

>>82393325
I read the Harlan Ellison story and they're nothing alike

>>82389558

adding to the pile of "oh shit is this actually real?!"

how can they fuck up something this badly

>>82387815
>the Termintor is hyper-rational
>therefore he wouldn't want double and triple redundency in his aiming systems, in case of failure

you're retarded

>skynet builds super complex human shape machines

>in reality it should just design a small bird or liquid metal rodent or other small mammal sized one and simply stab john in the throat multiple times while he sleeps or is casually sitting out in the open

>>82393179
It's a simple scene well done. Sarah ducks away, creating suspense, terminator aims in slow motion, sarah's face is oh shit, then reese opens fire and it's over in like 10 seconds. Also rad 80s synth.

If this was T2 robert patrick would break through the wall and arnie would tear up the fucking dance floor like oscar isaac all the while sputing one liners.

>>82389912
Time machine was built by skynet and the resistence found out, infiltrated and sent back kyle

>>82390234
the ar18 is an nfa item, you wouldnt be able to pick that up anywhere

>>82391507
YOU'VE GOT ME BURNIN!

>>82389321
Why didn't they ever release this movie in HD before?

>>82393919
the lead singer in that group did some stuff on skinemax, she was kinda milfy

name is tane mcclure

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Found another plothole, during the end of the second one they destroy the arm and chip and then lower Arnold in, but they forgot to destroy his severed arm during the first fight with the T-1000.

>>82388641
They literally had no time. Did you even pay attention to Kyle? It was a quick last ditch effort.

>>82393179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBF4Rxm_dlc
6:43

>>82392508
this is /tv/ anon, we are contrarians

>>82395018
Thanks man, that was exactly what I was wondering about. Slow motion time dilation; and they modify the song some when Sarah bends down to pick up the bottle.

Is it just me getting old and jaded or do not many films do creative effect stuff like that any more? I remember the first Blade doing a neat effect where they'd show the city rapidly going from day to night but I don't think the sequels had similar effects.

>>82395018
segue is pronounced segwey?

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I like how sarah conner was telling the truth and the fat jew doctor knew she wasnt lying about the salvaged arm and they went to great lengths to cover it up just like how they went to great lengths to vault up the robot arm and chip behind several locks

>>82395905
Yes, english is counter intuitive that way

>>82386260
Thanks to this movie I grew up always believing working in a gun shop was a very dangerous profession.

>>82396448
>be american gun salesman
>get shot
Seems legit

40 WATT RANGE

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>According to Cameron Skynet was guilty about wiping out mankind so set all the events of the movie up to eventually let the Resistance win

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>>82397053
what is that abomination

>>82395853
>neat effect where they'd show the city rapidly going from day to night

MAKE TIME LAPSES GREAT AGAIN

>>82393462
disney needs to make their own T2 with this concept

>>82389725
A lot of these remakes get the lighting wrong. Even R1 is guilt of this.

>>82392349
To make sure he still looks and acts "human". He is an infiltration droid. People pick up on subtle shit

>>82393095
>▶
This 100%.

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>>82392614

It's ironic that the only legal thing in Commiefornia are illegals

>>82389369
Nicely spotted anon, did you spot any other aspects of The Terminator that were unrealistic?

>>82387642
>Harold and Kumar meet the Terminator

fund this now

>>82391960
this
>>82393095

>>82390669

Another possibility is that the Plasma Rifle actually exists in at that point in the past, but the Terminator makes no distinction in his database between common weapons, and archives of historical human top-secret military prototypes (files which Skynet inherited from its creators).

>>82394620
well, it might not be a plothole, maybe it's a sign that no matter what happens, there always be something left behind so Skynet can happens