I know this is a dangerous question for this board but was there

>I personally liked the incredibles.

Literally the most benign of all answers

>>82351107
Captain America gave me Indiana Jones vibes, and I'm a sucker for historical fantasy.
Uhh, Dark Knight was pretty good, Ledger's Joker was pretty iconic (though way overmilked by fans)
Spiderman 1&2 were pretty good.
Tim Burton's Batman movies were fantastic, excellent set and costume work.
X-Men 1 was pretty alright.

Thats about it.
Iron Man 1 was alright

spiderman
batman begins

>>82351220
Andrew Garfield spiderman?

>>82351291
Did I say "The Amazing Spiderman"? No I said "Spiderman" dipshit.

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>>82351345
>>82351231
>>82351291

>>82351345
Just making sure.

>>82351345
YOU didn't say anything. I typed that. What are you trying to pull, here?

>>82351457
I accomplished what I set out to do is what matters.

>>82351488
I don't think this level of power should exist

>>82351107
Does Logan count? Though I'd think it'smore of a Western than a capeshit

>>82351107
only capeshit i liked was megamind. kind of hate incredibles to be honest

>>82351593
I'll count it. What about Logan made you like it?

I've been putting together a list of non-DC/Marvel superhero movies. Let me know if I'm missing any.

>The Incredibles
>Mystery Men
>Unbreakable
>The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
>Darkman
>The Toxic Avenger
>The Guyver
>The Rocketeer
>Hancock

>>82351595
Care to explain? I'm trying to understand when capeshit is good.

>>82351629
Unbreakable was grand. I can't think of what your list is missing to be honest.

>>82351107
why did they announce the another incredibles movie so early? I forgot about it but know i am hyped and its coming out like 2019.

>>82351657
in megamind they deconstruct and parody the roles and tropes often seen in capeshit movies and turn it around on its head. the result is a very free-feeling emperor's new groove-like film that's both decently funny and a fresh take on the genre

incredibles felt alot more like a paint-by-numbers capeshit movie. every plot point being predictable as fuck. the only difference being that people hate superheros, even though that trope has been done before by death now too

If by capeshit you mean shit made post 2000, I thought guardians of the galaxy and iron man were pretty neato

>>82351889
I think it's just to build hype. Have you waiting forever, then Keep reminding you to ensure they do well on release.

>>82351896
Fair enough. I see and respect your argument. So what would make capeshit better?

>>82351908
All iron man or just the first one?

>>82352066
First iron man. the one that was before every marvel movie looked the same

>>82351908
also logan, but I didn't think to include it because I don't consider it "capeshit"

The dark knight trilogy because i was 12. Also spider man for the same reason. Literally everything else is garbage

>>82352119
Fair
>>82352181
Why isn't it capeshit to You?
>>82352209
So nostalgia then?

>>82351107
Under The Red Hood was kino

>>82352227
because it's not a movie about a team of superheroes saving the world from doombringing alien#523b. It's a fairly grounded character drama with main characters who are "superheroes". The focus is on the characters, their feelings, and development, not how many GIANT ROBOTS THEY CAN RIP THROUGH OMGSOCOOL

>>82352050
more deconstructions and genre-mixing. less playing it safe and setting movies in the same universe. we don't need another 4000 billionth iron man or dark knight remake.

however i think this genre is beyond saving.

>>82352378
So do you think we could save the avengers by going more with character development and drama or would the setting have to be changed Also?

>>82352371
Haven't seen that one yet unfortunately.

>Unbreakable
>Spider-man
>Spider-man 2
>The Watchmen
>Man of Steel
>Hulk
>Kick Ass
>Kingsmen
>Incredibles

All great in my opinion.

>>82352403
So it needs to be freshener up. you think throwing in actual character development would help like
>>82352378
Suggested?

>>82352486
Was kingsman really capeshit or a playful spy movie though?

>>82352462
The avengers as a whole are beyond saving. But winter soldier was a step in the right direction before civil war mucked it up and turned again into "OMGDIDYOUSEEHOWCOOLANTMANTURNEDGIANT" as the primary enjoyment factor.

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>>82352552
You aren't wrong. So besides Logan, what are some positive examples of hero films that aren't capeshit?

So far we have
Logan
Unbreakable
Mega Mind

>>82352486
Kingsmen is good, but it's a spy movie, not capeshit...

>>82351107
Raimi's Spider-Man films
Iron Man
Burton's Batman
Unbreakable
Megamind
I actually enjoyed Ghost Rider

>>82351107
Toby McGuire as spiderman was real dope back when I was a kid

>>82352710
Ghost rider was enjoyably dark.
>>82352746
Is it still held in high esteem for You?

>>82352513
it would definetily be a step forward but like >>82352552 said. character development means nothing if the next movie is just going to be mindless action anyway

>>82352795
Would it be accepted if some of the marvel movies went that direction but not others?
For instance, what if Thor and Captain America became focussed more on character development while hulk and iron man kept ripping up bad guys? Would this help shift the genre as a whole to a better place?

>>82352795
If it can be self contained like logan, then it's safe from that effect. My sister had never seen an xmen movie and left Logan sobbing her eyes out.

The Incredibles was the first and last good superhero movie.

>>82353017
Let's hope that happens.

>>82351107
Memes aside, Raimi's Spiderman (specifically 2) is one of those rare films that /tv/ has a consensus of being pretty good.

>>82351291
Absolute cancer.

>spiderman1,2,3
>timburtons' batman
>incredibles
>xmen1,2
>logan
>begins,dk,dkr

These are only capekino

>>82351629
>HELLBOY
>The Crow
>Tank Girl
>The Phantom
>The Shadow
>Dick Tracy
>The Iron Giant
>TMNT (the original series)

>>82351629
>Sky High
>Spawn
>Masters of the Universe
>Conan
>Red Sonja

>>82351629
>Men in Black
>The Mask
>Kick Ass

>>82351107
plenty
Raimi's Spiderman 1 and 2 were campy but great
Burtons Batman and Batman Returns are straight up great movies
I also enjoyed Batman and Robin and Batman Forever in so bad it's good kind of way
Nolans Batmman movies of course except for TDKR, it sucked balls
X-Men 1 and 2 were decent
Logan was great
as for Marvel, Iron Man 1 and 2, Ant Man, Guardians and first two Captain America flicks were all enjoyable

>>82355599
conan, red sonya and he-man aren't capeshit. they're barbarianshit.