/who/ Doctor Who General

First for tranny

>>82348764
Second for Cletus

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Can we please get Ken Bones back as the General? he was GOAT that black woman who replaced him was terrible. They ruined a great character just to make a social statement

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Will it be GOAT?

World Enough and Time is GOAT.
It's the Doctor and Missy trapped on a space station orbiting a black hole. It's the Doctor and Missy sitting talking about their childhood with numerous flashback scenes to when the two were children. The boy who played the first Doctor in Listen is back and a new boy actor is playing the Master, black hair bright blue eyes. Moffat. It is revealed the Doctors parents before they died were servants to the Master's father. This is how the Master and Doctor became friends. A great flasback scene shows them meeting for the first time. The Doctors parents are heard but no seen. The son of a neighboring Gallifreyan Astriocrat bullies both the Doctor and Master, the Bully basically poor shames the Doctor which infuriates the Master who kills the bully. The Doctor and Master hide the boys body. It is an adaption of ''Master''. The two boys promise to keep it a secret cementing their friendship. Flashfoward it is revealed the Doctors parents died in an unknown event. Not explained to keep the Mystery surrounding it. The Doctor gets sent to a boys home. ''The barn'' and is miserable. The Master begs his father to allow the Doctor to live with them and asks him to vouch for him to become a Time Lord. The Doctor is then inducted into the academy aged 11 which is older than usual. It's just one of the best episodes made for the show. And Gomez is brilliant in it, shes more sane in it and timid. Can't wait for everyone to see it. When I say it's better than Heaven sent I mean it.

>>82348800
Sixth for Cletus

Reminder that Cloister Wraith is a misogynist and pervert.

>>82348813
Where's the fucking Cybermen.

>>82348847
That's Episode 12 numbnut.

>>82348856
It's a fucking two parter. Why would the first part have absolutely nothing to do with the second part which is supposedly a big Cybermen invasion story?

>>82348846
Yeah I looked for this mythical Reddit account in the archives and there's no mention of it. I think you're just stirring shit. Or maybe it's the Mandela Effect?

>>82348887
>supposedly a big Cybermen invasion story
said who?

>>82348887
Episode 12 is 75 minutes. Plenty of time for the Cybermen and SImm. 11 is just 12 and Missy and is 55 minutes.

>>82348887
Have you read the episode descriptions, autismo? It literally says that Episode 12 is the Cyberman invasion story.

>>82348813
sounds GOAT desu. shame you made it up.
also wasn't it the Doctor who killed the kid?

>>82348987
Adaption. Changing it around.

>>82348809
I don't get my hopes high.

>>82348927
t. cloister
You couldn't have looked because if you search the trip you would see all the woman hating shite

>>82349107
Yeah, he made a comment about women once that I didn't really like. But nothing about his "Reddit account", the shitty meme you keep pushing

>>82348656

>Are you a minority of any kind?

Yeh.

>Obviously it's important to have a thick skin but "tranny", "nigger", etc. have more weight behind them than your average insult.

When did anyone bring up the N word bucko?

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>>82348813
post yfw this is real

>>82349145
he also explained the comment and not that I agree but it wasn't that bad. i mean he just could of said it better. i don't think he has a reddit either. it's just someone moving on to another trip trying to get them to drop thier name

>>82349209
>Are you a minority of any kind?

Okay, good. Then I'm guessing you know what it's like to be oppressed?

>Obviously it's important to have a thick skin but "tranny", "nigger", etc. have more weight behind them than your average insult.

Because "tranny" and "nigger" are both slurs. Transgender people have it fucking awful right now in terms of public acceptance - they're the next big social justice struggle. People are killed for being transgender, and not just in third-world countries either, it happens in the west too. And you know those killers are calling them "trannies" and all kinds of other slurs.

Transgender people have a daily struggle with their gender identity. With the shit they go through - not just from other people but themselves too - I can't blame them for getting offended when someone calls them a "tranny". Remember that gender dysphoria is a serious mental illness, just like depression - you wouldn't go around insulting a depressed guy would you?

>>82349209
t. Cletus

>>82349503
Upvoted!

Can we get a face pic collage of all the ones we have of the tripfags old and new posting or not?

>>82349582
I hope you're ready for the fucking gulags Cletus. I'm going to put you to work packaging hormone supplements for transgender people.

>>82349503
Could you STOP being so FUCKING racist?

>>82349503

Alright bruv don't poo your pants

>>82349696
How is what I said racist in any way, you projecting Cletus? Your work at the gulag will power a thousand ghettos

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How hype are you guys for the mid-series four parter?

>people on /who/ are saying it's Regency England and Jesus level dark
>swollen, partially-expanded walking corpses
>Kung-fu monk like creatures
>'This is a diminished, more despondent Doctor, who's finding it hard to focus - and is liable to make mistakes'
>'When the Doctor is desperate, he gets dangerous, and Bill is disconcerted to discover a more warlike side to the Time Lord'
>"But now we come to the Doctor, our hero, who faces a truly testing time as he struggles to save his friends. We can't reveal what happens, but it's life-changing, even for a Time Lord"
>Earth on the edge of destruction
>Moffat said "This is a proper mad one. But it was my last chance to see how far you can bend this show before it breaks."
>Moffat said in DWM that Peter (Doctor of episode) is "of course, remarkable in this episode" implying the performance is GOAT
>Portal, Bioshock, and Grand Theft Auto references in the episode

It's going to be fucking amazing and honestly fark off if you even think about not hyping.

>>82349696
Shut up niceguy

One of the review sites gave it 3/5, worst so far
Hype is dead? Said it was EXACTLY as you expect it to be.

>>82349836
Source.

>>82349912
http://www.mymbuzz.com/2017/05/03/doctor-who-10-04-knock-knock-spoiler-free-preview/

>>82349798
t. Cletus who has been BTFO

>>82349938
>mymbuzz

Fucking who?

>>82349814
What am I projecting??? I'm a British Indian who is voting Corbyn. You racist prick.

>>82350052
Cool beans, Cletus. Now tell me why you think I'm racist

>>82350011
t. Cletus

>>82350052
dumb cletus

>>82350082
>>82350088
>>82350123
Proof that there are at least 3 cletusposters

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>tfw voted trump and for brexit but still posting cletuses

>>82350172
>tfw voted trump, le pen, brexit, ukip, bush, reagan, thatcher, nixon, wilders, one nation, nsdap, mussolini and fought in the US civil war but still posting cletuses

>>82350011
>Fucking who?

FUCKING... WHO?
FUC-KING WHO?

*Anon walks away with a smile*

>>82350285
t. Cletus

>>82350275
also putin

3/5 for Knock Knock. Hype is fucking dead. We're almost halfway through series 10 and there hasn't yet been a remarkable episode....

>>82349501
Reminder that Ive made DannyPink wanderer and Edge drop the trip and the Cloisters are next.

Really hoping that the rumor of WikiaFrog killing the doctor at Christmas is fake

UNHYPE FOR KNOCK KNOCK
NOW

it's generic story about le misunderstood creature and landlord isnt evil hes just old and cares about his woodgirl
its hide 2.0
DO NOT GET HYPE

>>82350476
>4/12

>one third

>almost halfway

>>82350499
This is getting worrying so far we've had no memorable episodes no new interesting concepts. The only interesting thing is the vault.

>>82350499

They gave away too much in those promo images

>>82350499
I liked Hide.

>>82350476
The Pilot is pretty good
2 and 3 arent terrible aswell they are just kind of forgettablr

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>>82350594
hey there. what happened to dropping the trip except for art requests?

>>82350576
I cant remember anything about it except for "I am the Doctor and I am afraid" and that there jessica raine in it

>>82350491
it's actually a giant turkey monster, there will be a plogicol introducing it in a couple weeks

>>82350659
It has a nice haunted house, and a pocket universe. Monster design was nice. They sort of forced it all, but I still like it.

>>82350696
how about you leave then

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>>82350659

The final boss had a good design

>>82350594
Can you stop poking the drama with a stick Edge? Honestly. I'm sick of seeing you pop your trip back on to say "Wait don't forget about me!!! I'm still here!" which completely defeats the point of taking it off in the first place. It's awful that you were doxxed but this really really really isn't helping.

Peter capaldi seems like a good doctor and series 10 is shaping up to be the best yet

>>82350482
cloister would kill /who/ before that would ever happen

>>82350740
Yea I remember it too

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>tfw the urge to dox edge again rears its head

>>82350696
even Gallifrey_Immigrant and Cloister and your stream Bros?

>>82350764
If we continue getting forgettable episodes like Thin Ice and Smile then no really it isn't.

Third Doctor fucking sucks. Unit is shit, Jo is shit, the stories are all the same. What a lump of shit

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>>82350883

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>>82350659
Dougray Scott too. I liked them together, they could have been a good Doctor and companion. I remember disliking the ending but I did love the atmosphere, so I think I should give it a rewatch.

>>82350570
Fans hate everything though.

>>82350958
I usually rewatch episodes the same night
But with this one it was like "its alright I guess" and never rewatched ever since
Series 7 were darkest days of doctor who for me

>>82351018
There's plenty of Classic Who I've only seen once and I've never rewatched. It's not a sign the show is bad, just a sign I've got better things to do than obsess over one story for weeks on end. I'm not fucking five years old anymore where that kind of thing was manditory.

Y'all hate David Tennant even though his Doctor had the best stories.

Midnight, Forest In the library, Turn Left, Human Nature , Satan pit etc/

>>82350883

I main Third Doctor, he's a beast once you learn the right combos.

What is more I never really had an intention to rewatch it after 4 years

>>82350803
Do something. I fucking hate her.

>>82348710
Who's that dude on the left; he looks familiar

>>82351140
>Let's fuck with someone who has a mental illness for fun because I find them mildly annoying!

>>82351120
1. Tennant has more god-awful stories than good ones

2. Capaldi has the best stories on average. He's also a better actor

>>82351120
He can be fortunate enough to have a cluster of really good episodes while still being a poor version of the character overall.

Just to think if Colin got that nice blue jacket they were planning his Doctor would have been taken more seriously and would have looked GOAT.

>>82351204
1. No
2. No. Yes.

>>82351191
Edge I hate the doxxers but this is so obviously you.

>>82351272
you're one of those "reee capaldi good actor but no get good scrippies!!" boardies. reminder that series 9 was critically acclaimed more than any other series

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>>82351276
Nope

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>>82351268

>>82351361
I'm not a boardie, I just dont agree.
My favorite series are 1, 3 and 5.

>>82351418
This is GOAT. He looks so good.

>>82351420
you can disagree with people who's job it is to have an informed opinion on tv and film all you want. i happen to share their cultured views, as does 75% of who

>>82351268
I really want to ride Colin and eat out his taint like you wouldn't believe. He's so hot but the jacket fucks it all up.

>>82351484
I dont give a shit about 75% meme, glad you have it as a last argument in every single discussion

>>82351361
Fuck the critics, series 9 was bad. I admit that compared to older series it only had one really bad episode, that at least was original.

>>82351484
>as does 75% of who

I love this meme. It really drills a sense of oppression into the RTDcucks heads as they realise just how outnumbered they are here.

>>82351484
That's pretty autistic and I mean that in a literal way and not in a meme way

>>82351484
lit's so easy to tell when cats is baiting and people fall for it anyway

I can't take this anymore. Every day I am harassed for preferring RTD's stories to Moffat's. Heaven forbid I prefer humour and subtlety to childish roleplay. I'm going home to Reddit now, have fun though.

I always had this strange perception — the Eleventh era seems to me a total fucking mess, while the Twelfth era is very well-worked out and well-proportioned for me. Yes, it also has a messy stuff, but it does not bother so much. Also Twelfth era seems to me much comfy.
These are my personal things, or /who/ see it in the same way?

>>82351662
;)

Alright, I'm ranking episodes from every series to rule out the best Doctor Who series by my tastes.
I'm using Great (4 points), good (2 points), average (1 point) and bad (0 points)
Starting with Series 1!

>>82350773
as if he had the power to do anything

>>82351586
You're not original

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Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

Doctor Who references in unexpected places:

https://youtu.be/R07cjOFw7i0?t=72

Series 1!

Great

Dalek
The Empty Child
The Doctor Dances
Bad Wolf
Parting of the Ways

Good

Rose
The End of the World
Aliens of London
Father's Day
Boom Town

Average
The Unquiet Dead
The Long Game
World War Three

Final score for series 1: 33

>>82351823
Vengeance on varos was one of the last great stories

>>82351845
Stop right now. Go fuck yourself. We don't need you there, we don't love you, we will never love you. You're embarrassing us.

>>82348813
Now I'm going to be upset when this doesn't happen. I think it's better if the bully's killer is left ambiguous though, but that's just because I can't decide which one I prefer. The Master keeping the Doctor's darkest secret would definitely be a big reason for such a lasting bond.

>>82351744
>he doesn't know

Continuing for Series 2

Great

The Impossible Planet
The Satan Pit
Army of Ghosts

Good

The girl in the Fireplace
Love and Monsters
The Christmas Invasion
Doomsday

Average

New Earth
Tooth and Claw
School Reunion
Age of Steel
Rise of the Cybermen

Bad

The Idiot's Lantern
Fear Her

Final Score: 25

CALLING THE WAR COUNCIL OF GALLIFREY, THIS IS THE DOCTOR!

>>82352010
My worst nightmare, all 12 of them!

>>82352079
YES SIR, ALL 12

I had a dream about an episode with missy
>Missy trying to find the perfect "most doctorest" doctor
>Extracts the doctor/companion from many different dimensions, if they do something wrong she kills them and moves onto the next one
>Go through many iterations of this
>Picks one doctor
>instead of doing the normal tests she forces them to stay in hibernation for a long time - hundred years or more
>phychological warfare or something
>Doctor wakes up, remembers who he is by reading books including every doctor who book and comic
>confronts missy
>"We've been through this before, it's either you or me"
>Stabs missy in the back of the neck with the sonic multiple times
>she pretends to be dead but we see her touch the wound on the back of her neck after the doctor leaves the room
>alarm goes off

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>>82351268
https://twitter.com/willbrooks1989/status/759697106323988480
https://twitter.com/willbrooks1989/status/759697755270811648
https://twitter.com/willbrooks1989/status/760051139014496256

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>>82352079
NO SIR

ALL FOURTEEN

>>82352010
Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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>>82352079
NO SIR

ALL FIFTEEN!

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>>82352079
NO SIR

ALL SIXTEEN

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>>82352079
NO SIR, ALL SEVENTEEN

>>82352079
Oy, sir! All six Gorillion!

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>>82352079
NO SIR


ALL EIGHTEEN

>>82351671
Eleven's era was all about building to bigger and bigger arc stories, except only the first one actually worked. So, when Moffat spent all his time hyping us about "watch carefully for clues" rather than watching the episodes as episodes, and the clues turned out to be a huge fucking mess, everything felt like crap.

If you go back and watch S6 and S7a ignoring all the arc bullshit, most of the episodes are actually pretty good. But it didn't feel that way at the time, because of the arc bullshit.

Moffat seems to have learned his lesson. S7b was still a bit under that shadow, but S8-10 aren't.

The whole "Pete" thing reminded me of something from the VNAs. I was pretty sure it was in Conundrum, but I skimmed the whole book and it isn't there.

The idea is that history almost always prevents butterfly effects, so minor events don't cause major changes. If Benny kicks a can in present-day Earth it's not going to cause the humans to lose the Dalek Wars, at most it'll cause them to start an hour earlier or an hour later. But she kicks a can in present-day Earth, and the Dalek Wars start an hour earlier, and 47 people die who wouldn't have otherwise died, because even minor changes are major to someone.

Anyone know what I'm talking about? Or did I just imagine all of that?

>>82352595
I did find the bit in Transit where something the Doctor had done during the UNIT era led to Kadiatu discovering time travel a few centuries later and almost destroying the universe, which they talk about in a couple other Ace novels. But that's not the one I was looking for.

Make you confession, Doctor. Why did you really leave Gallifrey?

>>82350482
Good Luck.

>>82352775
Something about a hybrid? I don't really remember.

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Reminder only one more episode til based Nardole joins the team

>>82350482
Well what's wrong with Cloister?

>>82353145
He's a Cletus.

>>82353390
he's as antifa as cats

>>82352775
The writers' bible for the 1996 revival makes it pretty clear that the Doctor left Gallifrey because he got the President's daughter pregnant. (Although it wasn't yet decided whether that President was Rassilon or Romana.)

>>82352595
You want Head Games, not Conundrum, but close. You've mixed it up a bit in your memory, but the can starting a war an hour early centuries later is right.

There are actually plenty of mentions of the butterfly effect in Classic Who and NuWho as well as in the novels (remember just last series when the Doctor said if he wasn't careful he'd return to a universe ruled by cats?), and you probably blended one or two of them in with the Head Games bit.

>>82353845
Absolute canon. It just must to be.

>>82353845
I'd always assumed Rassilon died long before the Doctor was born (loomfags gtfo), they always chat about him as if he was an ancient founder of the Time Lords (alongside Omega) in the Classic Series

>>82352233
When this anon becomes showrunner put all your money on this casting happening.

>>82354247
If you go back and watch Three Doctors, it really seems like Omega's era was pretty recent. And Morbius and Deadly Assassin make the most sense if you assume that the reigns of Rassilon and Morbius were only a few centuries ago, well within the Doctor's lifetime.

It's only all the later stories that make that implausible, mostly starting with Cartmel.

(Also, the loomfags would agree with you. The Doctor was born millions of years after the Other threw himself into the looms.)

But anyway, it's pretty clear that every version of the Leekley Bible was going to retcon a lot of details from the classic series and VNAs, in all versions. It's only because Jacobs basically ignored that and convinced Segal to go along with him that the TV movie can fit into canon at all.

The first version of the Bible had a different reason for the Doctor leaving: his half-brother the Master was elected President after Barusa, and he had to search for their mutual father, a lost explorer named Ulysses who had gone looking for a mythical Great Blue Planet (Earth), to save Gallifrey.

>>82354674
I see, interesting

Is it normal to get an awful muddled headache after watching Hell Bent, you try to like it but just can't because of all the Clara in it.

>>82355677
Checked!

>>82355639
I do think there ought to be an effort to start legitimately diagnosing this level of brain-affecting Clara antipathy.

>>82355677
Oh dear god no

>>82356014
yes

>>82356014
No, but post your own nudes instead

>Edge deleting EVERYTHING this very moment

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I find it very funny how it is always anons who bring up trip drama

dubs confirm eps 5-8 will be shite.

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Reminder that Extremis is Moffat does The Da Vinci Code

>>82356199
you could have used those dubs for good but you wasted them
yes

>>82348796
3rd for Dizzee Rascal as the zany nigger doctor

>>82356199
Really? Because I think it's annoying, and maybe sad, but I don't see how it's funny.

>>82356388
"Funny" was obviously meant in the ironic sense where it's actually depressing.

>>82356250
is that a good thing or a bad thing?

>>82356199
>>82356388
>>82356411
Pretty sure these count for No >>82356014
If there were a poll involved im pretty sure you'd get a majority no there as well, it's a no from me.

>>82356451
A twisted, puzzle mystery based horror thriller is basically his element. It's going to be like The Pandorica Opens having sex with Blink. GET H Y P E

>>82356250
This next month of episodes looks fucking great oads

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The Doctor: it's the end, but the moment has been prepared for...

Bill: So he was The Doctor all the time!

>>82356612
you're just afraid its yours

>>82356695
/who/'s seen plenty. Sorry if you missed it. There's always the archives.


Are 'we' or 'people' still thinking Suchet is a timelord?

Have you guys seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8hMthdkORg

>>82356880
No. Realistically no big Time Lord stuff is going to go down until the Missy/Simm episodes.

>>82356880
Well, what's Rassilon been doing since he got kicked off Gallifrey?

He could put together an army of Cybermen from across history to conquer the universe and retake Gallifrey.

Or he could regenerate, move to Earth a few decades in the past, fall in love with a wood lady, and buy a house to rent to students so he can supplement his Gallifreyan retirement and live comfortably.

>>82356909
Yes we complained about the no mention of Sawbones Hex

>>82357035
Eccles is the Tom Baker of NuWho and just like him, he will give in and do multiDoctor stuff.

>>82357064
I really don't think that's going to happen. Pretty sure Eccleston wants as much distance from the series as possible.

>>82357064
Nick Briggs was able to get to Tom because he was still friends with Louise Jameson.

I don't see Eccleston hanging out with Billie Piper or John Barrowman when he's semi-retired.

>>82356909
>ywn have to help carry Smith out from a fine dining establishment after slamming 40+ mimosas while he does line after line of shitty blow at the table between courses while the other 6 shake their heads
Why live? ;_;
>>82356957
B-but Missy's going to cause her forthcoming regeneration right?
>>82357030
>Or he could regenerate, move to Earth a few decades in the past, fall in love with a wood lady, and buy a house to rent to students so he can supplement his Gallifreyan retirement and live comfortably.
Living the dream.

>>82357208
Someone has to stay behind to pass the plates over when Colin asks "Does anyone else want to finish Matt's steak? Or his wine? Or those two fans who carried him out the door, whatever they were eating? Because if not, I'm just saying, don't want to let it go to waste, do we?"

>>82356909
I am tempted to enter the draw. Should I pay 5 quid to eat Breakfast next to them and then shitpost about it on /who/?

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>Moffat had to finish The Pyramid at the End of the World by his mother's deathbed
>yfw it's depressionkino on par with The End of Evangelion

>>82357313
>Colin rubbing his hands together eagerly before digging in. Mcgann winking and making eyes at a trio of cougar-ish women before excusing himself to chat them up. A wistful glance from David as Paul saunters away, leaving the bar with two of the ladies the third trailing them like a lost puppy. Davison interrupting David's silent reverie about more holiday plans and Sylvester nagging him about VO parts that he could do on the new Ducktails, as Capaldi inexplicably dressed very much like the doctor, mopes behind his raybans because no one wanted to hear his rendition of "The Last Chance Saloon". He even bought his guitar.
>>82357472
Go for it.

>>82357472
No, you should pay 5 quid to eat breakfast next to them and shitpost about it on /who/ with your phone while you're doing it.

>>82357803
B-but that's really rude. Besides I would be next to a yank and two idiots paying 10k and 25k respectively to be there as well and I want to not come off as autistic as them.

>>82357788
Either that or it's completely shit since he had to rush to finish the final draft without any input from Harness

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>>82357788
>"The end of your life has already begun," explains the Doctor. "There is a last place you will ever go. A last door you will ever walk through. A last sight you will ever see. And every step you ever take is moving you closer. The end of the world is a billion tiny steps - and somewhere, unnoticed, it has already begun."

>>82358108
Did you make that quote up or did something get released?

Dubs confirm the Truth Monks will be Kino villains.

>>82358163
http://i.4cdn.org/tv/1493828807626.jpg

>>82358108
It is either going to be Nightmare Fuel-tier or utter shit.

>>82358166
GET HYPE!

>>82358192
Wait a second, how do we know you didn't create an entire fake DWM magazine, ship it to the anon who posted scans earlier so he'd think it was the real one, and then link to his scans so we'd believe you?

>>82358340
You don't.

You're just gonna have to trust me.

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>3.76

Spoiler filled snippets from Extremis

''One must stay so the other can leave''

''Whatever happened to the Druids of old Ireland?''

''The official story the vatican tells is that St. Patrick drove the Snakes, the Pagan leaders fro, the Island and into the depths of the cold Atlantic. However, that is not the real truth Doctor, St. Patrick was given a mission by Rome a mission to retrieve the Veritas from those Druids. The truth is that those Druids survived and they killed saint Patrick and his followers with the truth''

''Their leader was once a great King, a man named Nuada of a mythical people known as the Tuatha De Danann. He is the one who dawns the orange robe''

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>>82358166
Fucking confirmed

Forget the actual quality of the stories though, what's /who/'s thoughts on their design?

Trips confirm this series will be mediocre

>>82358677
Well, that kind of makes Witch Mark less interesting. If the Tuatha de Danaan were real rather than mythological, the alien scientist's whole plan was kind of pointless.

>>82351845
>Father's Day
>not great

>>82358054
I'm kind of worried it'll be this.

>>82358938
Uninspired. No creepier than the Silence. Absolutely nothing novel.

But I won't mind if the story is good. Sorry to undermine your caveat.

Imagine if I wrote a full Doctor Who episode screenplay. 45 pages, all good. Just for the sake of my own autism.
What happens if I send a copy into BBC? Would anyone bother reading?
What should I do with that screenplay?

>>82358677
I have Nuada's knot tattooed on my persons.

>>82359586
the silence actually spooked me the first time i saw them. Those guys just look boring

>>82359601
You could try to send it, but I wouldn't be to too optimistic. Scripting isn't done how it used to be, so don't expect to become the next Marc Platt or Andrew Smith.

>>82359586
I think the robes are pretty cool looking at least

>>82359916
Yea I know. But what should I do with it then?

>>82359601
>What happens if I send a copy into BBC? Would anyone bother reading?
Probably not. In America, definitely not, but I'm not sure exactly how American the BBC has become since the 1980s.

But honestly, while you may think you have a great script, at best you have a great idea written up by someone who has a lot of talent but not enough skill and not nearly enough experience to turn it into a filmable script.

>What should I do with that screenplay?
Join a writers' group that will workshop it with you. And write more scripts to workshop, for different shows. Once you're happy with multiple scripts, use them to get an agent. Use the agent to get you work. Once you've got some experience, if you still want to do this same idea, rewrite it from scratch and get your agent to submit it. If they're impressed, they probably won't use it, but might call you into to commission you to write something different.

Or, alternatively, just post it on a fan fiction site.

>>82359601
I'm pretty sure they're not even allowed to read things, because then if something similar happened to turn up in a future episode you could claim they stole your idea.

>>82360027
That's been the rule in the US since the 1950s or so. You get back a form letter legally certifying that they haven't read it and explaining why they can't.

But in the US, while it's very hard to win a justified plagiarism lawsuit, it's also very easy to file a frivolous plagiarism suit and waste a ton of expensive time for their lawyers and all of the creatives involved.

I don't think the UK legal system is nearly as bad, is it?

>>82359969
You could always post it here. I'm sure at least some anon would read it.

>>82360132
If it's good enough—or if it's very bad—some anon will organize an audio recording of it once Foreman is done.

>>82360162
>once Foreman is done.
so never.

>>82360162
>once Foreman is done.

So never

Is anyone else disappointed by the Doctor Who Saviour of Time skypebot thing?

I thought it was going to do Elizabot-like stuff where it responds more to what you type, but really it seems like there's just a couple of places where it matters what you type at all. Like if you guess Uranus, you get a different response than if you guess another outer planet, with a little joke in it.

>>82360162
>once Foreman is done.

Now that edge hates us this doesn't seem like it's happening any time soon

>you will never write for tv because you are born in the 3rd world country
feels bad

>>82360627
Plenty of third-world countries have their own TV productions. Colombia, Argentina, Kazakhstan, USA, Philippines, Nigeria… Why doesn't yours?

>>82360700
lobbying

Wake up, night/who/.

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>tfw 17004 days until the 100th special
Fun Fact: 17004 days ago the US performed nuclear test at a Nevada Test Site and the USSR performed a nuclear test at Novaya Zemlya.

>One of her new flatmates is Harry, who chats about his grandad ‘greypacking’ (that’s backpacking for older people, apparently) with his boyfriend at the Great Wall of China.
>However, the writer reveals, Harry’s other grandad is UNIT surgeon, Harry Sullivan.
What the hell

>>82362570
What part of that makes you say "what the hell"? That Harry had grandkids? That one of them was named after him?

What's /who/ with you?

I'm about to start The Flames of Cadiz. Not really sure what to expect here. Historicals are either incredibly GOAT and well paced or incredibly shit and drag like hell; there seems to be no in between.

>>82363178
That reference is there at all

>>82364398
They make minor references to classic companions all the time. They just referenced Harry in the Zygon 2-parter.

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>>82361262
Be careful what you wish for

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r a n i

There are billionaires out there who could easily buy the rights to the show and make huge budgeted episodes.

>>82365661
Yeah, even if you were barely a billionaire, you could hire Chibs, Moff, RTD, and Cartmel to each make 3 episodes plus one special, with a per-episode budget about 10x what the BBC gives them, and still not use up your interest and dividends earnings for the year.

And then you could call up Ted Turner, Bill Gates, etc. and tell them to suck it. Sure, Ted's UN donation may have saved a few thousand lives, and Bill's may have given a few hundred thousand people laptops, but you just gave a hundred million people the best series of Doctor Who ever, and surely that's more important.

>>82357064
Eccles is nothing like tom baker because he actually has a successful career after being the doctor
eccles won't need to resort to the con circuit for a long time

How does /who/ feel about Bill?

>>82367631
There was an anon last night who put it perfectly, but I can't remember exactly what he said. Something like this:

Decent character, good actress, but that's not what makes her a great companion. The fact that she makes Capaldi more interesting, in a way that Clara couldn't, is what makes her a great companion.

>>82367691
>no /pol/-tier "reee black people" response
eh

>>82367691
12/Clara was GOAT though, as /who/ will tell you

Briggs' Ninth Doctor Adventures comes out today.

Who /hype/ here?

>>82367866
I assumed you came to /who/ because you wanted to actually talk about the character. If you're just looking to trigger people, you can go remind /pol/ that she's black and gay, or go find a tumblr and remind people that she may be black and gay but why is she still cis, and I'm sure they'll oblige.

>>82367901
Clara didn't really bring out anything new in 12 until HS/HB, two episodes at the end of two whole years. Bill has already done so in her first three episodes. Sure, her S10 character arc may not end up as cool as Clara's S9 one, but even if it doesn't, she's already a great companion.

Besides being incredibly hot, I find Clara to be a pretty boring companion.

Who is the best and most interesting companion in your opinion, /who/?

>>82368186
The problem with a character arc of "the companion turns into the Doctor" is that it makes it hard to use her interestingly in the individual episode plots. Amy, Donna, and Martha were all able to contribute things the Doctor could never do; Clara is mostly just useful in the same way as the Doctor, and not as well as him.

I think there's a way they could have made it work, basically what the EDAs did with Fitz post-Escape Velocity, but concentrated into 12 weeks of episodes instead of scattered haphazardly over a few of the novels in an two-year span.

>>82368546
Ian, Zoe, and Rory, except that they wouldn't be nearly as good without Barbara, Jamie, and Amy, respectively. If you want a companion who's interesting purely on their own merits, Ace, Benny, or Evelyn. Or maybe Sarah Jane or Fitz.

>>82368546
Leela and Jamie. There's something very fun about having a companion that's clueless about technology that is greatly underutilized.

>>82368846
You know, I always wondered why so many of the writers complained about how hard that was with Katarina and Victoria, and then with Victorian Clara before they ditched that idea. Clearly nobody had any trouble writing for Jamie or Leela.

And it's not just "the Doctor should only have to explain things that are unfamiliar to the viewers", because they had the same problem with Tegan (with Nyssa and Adric/Turlough talking over her head) as they did with Victoria, even though she knows as much as the viewer does.

>>82368846
It is fun, but there's general problem with it since one of companion's roles is to receive exposition for viewer's benefits, and they have different frame of reference from viewers.

>>82368926
>>82368943
It probably makes a difference that neither 2 nor post-SJ 4 spent much time on present-day Earth. When you're bouncing around alien worlds and far-future space stations, the viewer is not much more clueful than Jamie or Leela. Would the same thing work on NuWho?

>>82368943
It didn't seem to be much of a problem for those characters. 4 was Leela's teacher and Jamie was just there to bro out with 2 and which ever hot babe he was dragging around at the time.

>>82369000
The problem is that, for example, if Doctor has to explain some technobabble to Leela, he'd have to realistically use terms of hunting-gathering, instead of terms modern viewers would understand.

Although I don't think it actually came up very often, but I imagine it makes writers anxious.

i like dotcor who

>>82369141
You're a shithead. Do not be offended, we are all the same here.

>>82369141
Not a proper fan then

>>82369110
But the writers seemed to rise to the occasion with Leela without any problems, while with Victoria they went and complained to the script editor.

Also, companions like Steven, Zoe, Romana, and Nyssa worked despite the fact that the Doctor rarely needed to explain anything to them; none of the writers ever complained about having to find other ways to bring us into the story without an exposition dump on the companion.

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>>82368588
>>82369000
>>82369044
>>82369110
Look at the numbers in this conversation. What have we confirmed?

I think another problem with Victoria and Katarina is that 14 years old is too young for a companion. The best Victoria stories are the ones where they completely forget her age and write her like a 19-year-old.

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>>82369341

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Seems like this will be the last season I ever watch the main tv of Doctor Who.

>omg check your privilege
>omg doctor do you know what time this is, there are slaves
while half the background characters are black in high class formal wear
??????

I'm out, the first two episodes were tolerable (minus the whole emoji aspect, should've just said "emoticons" instead of a trademarked thing)

>>82369990
OK, bye, just sure you leave /who/ as well as the show.

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>>82370033
Egads, I needed to check myself before I post

>>82369990
>omg check your privilege
Nobody says this.

>omg doctor do you know what time this is, there are slaves
After /pol/ spent the last year bitching that Doctor Who would never do this because they're SJWs, /pol/ gets mad that they do this because that means they're SJWs.

>while half the background characters are black in high class formal wear
There's one black person wearing what the middle class wore while failing to be high class.

>the whole emoji aspect, should've just said "emoticons" instead of a trademarked thing
"emoji" isn't a trademarked thing.

So, good job searching desperately for things to trigger you. You should be proud of your ability to do so.

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Alright, so, the Ninth Doctor Chronicles is released as of today, but no torrents or anything (like VK uploads) are up yet.

When they are (should be within a few days), I'll put em onto DailyMotion so we can stream them.

Unless anyone wants to take the plunge and actually...buy them.

https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-ninth-doctor-chronicles-1628

>>82370375
>VK uploads
what is this?

I listened to The Church and the Crown & Bang-Bang-A-Boom! today.

>>82370555
VK is vaguely a Russian FB equivalent. It's also one of the hotspots for DW fandom and pirated uploads.

vk DOT com FORWARD SLASH page-5742320_48605545

vk DOT com FORWARD SLASH doctorwhoclassic

Torrent audios tend to be better tagged and better quality, but VK has a shitload of stuff. Plenty to explore.

>>82370599
What were your thoughts on both? Any particular reason you listened to those ones?

>>82370647
>What were your thoughts on both?
They were both good. Erimem is an interesting addition to 5's crew and I thought it was cute that he was trying to take her to his brother's for dinner. Bang-Bang-A-Boom! was a bit of fun.

>Any particular reason you listened to those ones?
Because that's where I'm up to in the main range.

>>82370722
>Because that's where I'm up to in the main range.

Cool, your first listen through then?

BF-only companions like Evelyn and Charley often tend to get better written than the TV ones at BF, suppose they feel more freedom with the characters.

>>82370762
BF is at it's best when working with it's own creations, yeah. Especially the villains and monsters. BF knows how to work with what it's got and they use the audio to do shit the TV show can't.

>>82370722
I loved the way they used Erimem in that story. We were just talking about the problem of companions who are from so far in the past they can't understand the present day, but in this one, she's from so far in the past that she can't even understand the 4th century, and they make a virtue out of that instead of a problem.

Unimaginable power! UNLIMITED RICE PUDDING!

How 'canon' are the audio's? I wanna try them, but I'm not gonna waste my time on glorified fanfics.

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>>82371204

>>82371204
http://www.paulcornell.com/2007/02/canonicity-in-doctor-who/

>>82371204
There is no official canon for Doctor Who, full stop. The TV show occasionally references the audios, novels, and comics, but it never relies on them—but the same thing is true for anything that happened on TV longer ago than last series.

So if you only care about "canon", there's no reason to pay any attention to anything but S9 and S10 of NuWho.

But if you care about good Doctor Who stories, some of the best ones are from Big Finish.

>>82371204
Just as canon as anything post-Verity Lambert. That is, not canon at all.

>>82371204
That's complicated to say but it seems to be mostly canon. Sometimes not. There's what happens to 6 after trial and what 8 does which you don't get on tv so why not. People say there is no canon but wink wink we all kind of know what the real answer is, which is that it's not just a bunch of bullshit and you can fit the stories in with the show and it has all of the real actors.

>>82371369
>>82371314
>>82371280
>>82371279
Cool. Best place to start? Mostly interested in 6 and 8.

>>82371433
The Light at the End. Multidoctor 50th story, great plot. Then Storm Warning, fist Eight story.

>>82371433
8 you can just listen in order, since they all happen in order. Or start specifically from designated Eighth Doctor Adventures (Those are structured more to resemble NuWho rather then classics). Not sure about 6.

>>82371433
I'm pretty sure this is what you want. You can skip anything you don't like. Look up reviews to check if something is good. If you just want to listen to good stories and skip a bunch, just google what the best big finish stories are.
http://www.eyespider.org.uk/drwho/cb/list.html

>>82371369
>People say there is no canon but wink wink we all kind of know what the real answer is

Those people including Steven Moffat (DWM 496, see extracts here https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/comments/445j6w/production_notes_steven_moffat_qa_for_doctor_who/), Paul Cornell (http://www.paulcornell.com/2007/02/canonicity-in-doctor-who/), Robert Holmes and his disregard for any concept of a "canon" with every new story he wrote, and so on?

Doctor Who not having a canon isn't a joke, it's the implicit stance of the BBC. Canon is derived from authority, it has no other basis, and the only time that authority has ever expressly called something canon was the Adventure Games for Series 5. That is the sole Doctor Who work you could consider canon if we're talking actual evidence.

Doctor Who effectively has no canon, and that's a fantastic thing. Paul Cornell expresses why, in his essay I linked above, better than I ever could.

>it's not just a bunch of bullshit and you can fit the stories in with the show and it has all of the real actors.

Saying Doctor Who doesn't have a canon isn't implying Big Finish is bullshit, or the TV show is bullshit, or the comics or whatever else, it's liberating anyone who wants to tell stories in the worlds of Doctor Who. "Canon" (in the sense of continuity, which isn't even what it really means but what fans normally mean when they say it) is, just like Moffat says, "in the hearts and minds of all the people watching", it's a personal negotiation between stories one likes having "connected". The BBC isn't going to force that onto you; you enjoy the stories you enjoy, and reconcile them how you like. It's a beautiful, liberating thing, freeing up storytelling instead of boxing it in.

I don't think we're disagreeing really since the thrust of your comment seemed to be just encouraging that anon to listen to Big Finish since it "fits in nicely" with the TV show. I'm just soapboxing about canon really.

>>82349819
>Earth on the edge of destruction

just like in approximately 500 other doctor who stories

>>82351845
>farting aliens
>good

you should leave this board, it's for adults only

>>82371433
>Holy Terror
>Marian Conspiracy
>Catch 1582
>...Ish
>Storm Warning
>Blood of the Daleks
>The Silver Turk

For the Frobisher, Mel, and Peri ones, you can pretty much jump around. For the Evelyn, Charley, Lucie, and Mary Shelley ones, it makes a lot more sense to listen to them in order.

Audios are not canon to the show and that's okay

Everything is canon, including fanfiction.

>>82371676
The show is not canon to the show. Look at Atlantis.

There is no canon.

Sorry guys, Litterally God here, I accidentally spilled my drink and hit the autism button

/who/, how long do you give it till DW DVDs stop selling in the UK?! I've still got some Pertwee's and most Tom's to go...

>>82371204
Everything is canon in DW

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/series-10-knock-knock-advance-review-84513.htm

>Overall, Knock Knock is a decent, spooky throwback. It may not add a whole lot new, and the scares suffer a bit from latter revelations, but it’s an entertaining ride nonetheless.

>>82371892
No surprise. Nothing too good will happen until after Oxygen

>>82371892
>the scares suffer a bit from latter revelations
fuck it really is Hide 2.0 isn't it

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>>82371939
I'd be OK with that. I liked Hide. This and Name are the only episodes of series 7b that I can remember.

>>82372405
I remember Cold War for having David Warner in it.

Unbound TV adaptation when?

>>82372405
All I remember about hide besides the punchline is that insufferable low framerate they used whenever the monster was on screen
they did that in a few 7B episodes and I can't for the life of me figure out why the fuck they thought it was a good idea

>>82372645
>that insufferable low framerate they used whenever the monster was on screen
Because the monster was stop-animation.

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>>82348813
>and a new boy actor is playing the Master, black hair bright blue eyes. Moffat.


is "Moffat" code for "the boy actor who sat in Moffat's lap the longest"?

>>82372953
>thinking Steven "shagged every woman at the BBC studio when making Joking Apart" Moffat is gay

>>82350662
>there will be a plogicol

this word only appears in /who/ generals. what does it mean?

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>>82352207
all three hundred and twenty-two.

>>82372976
> thinking "wow, this guy really likes seeing men marching in tight formation. A lot. and manly men in WWII overcoats. a lot."

>>82373051
Nobody's thinking thta

I killed the thread with my typo

>>82373603
going to have to make a new one soon anyway

what's /who/ with you

Tooth and Claw is GOAT.

Discuss.

>>82373620
Working on that "combine the BBC narrated 'soundtracks' of the missing eps with the Loose Cannon recons" thing, it's not too difficult to do, and the end result definitely is better and more engaging than either the audio or LC recon alone, but it's time-consuming going through all the missing eps and doing it. Will upload them to MEGA when I get em all done.

>>82373641
I wasn't a big fan but I like how The Torchwood Archive revisited it kinda.

>>82373641
I liked it, especially the opening with the 28 days later camera tricks

>>82373641
I always love 8 and Izzy, but it's not their best comic.

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>there are people here who unironically don't believe that the impossible planet / satan pit 2 parter isn't THE greatest story in the entire doctor who canon

>>82370762
>Cool, your first listen through then?
Ya.

I just want to reiterate the cuteness of the Brax thing. The Doctor (for some reason) decided Erimem couldn't travel with them so he tried to pilot the TARDIS to the Braxiatel Collection and says that they're probably in time for dinner. He had someone he wasn't sure what to do with and so his first thought is to introduce them to his bro

>>82373697
t. capaldo

>>82373697
hi impossible-planet/satan-pit-is-goat anon

>>82373697
Look, Matt, we're all sorry RTD didn't invite you back for another episode after that one. I liked your Dirk Gently, if that makes you feel any better. Now is that enough (you)s for you to stop posting about your story every few hours?

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CALLING THE WAR COUNCIL OF GALLIFREY, THIS IS THE DOCTOR

>>82373789
if rosenthal is the next doctor the 13th's era will be my gay era

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>>82373697
>nu-who
>canon

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Like breath... on a mirror

>>82373697
Let me guess, it's 'epic' because the Doctor and Rose 'defeated SATAN', right?

>it's a neil gaiman episode
into the trash

Can I listen to Zagreus alone, or are there build ups?

>>82373912
Neverland is at least is a must. Other than that, I think you're fine as long as you're generally familiar with the classic series.

>>82373912
You'll need at least listen to the previous one (Neverland, I think?) the rest is more of foreshadowing than actual plot.

>>82373932
>>82373939

Lets work on the hypothetical that I've seen about 3/4 of 1s run, and listened to EDAs and Dark Eyes from pre-nuwho stuff

getting new fred

>>82373966
Neverland was my first foray into the EU, I think you'll be fine and I didn't watch any classic who.

>>82373912
It follows on a bit from the previous story Neverland, but almost nothing is carried over and it explains pretty much everything you need to know.

It would be favorable to listen to Storm Warning beforehand though because the story assumes you to be familiar with Charley and her situation.

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>A new companion for the Fourth Doctor - Ann Kelso joins the the Doctor in 2019
https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/a-new-companion-for-the-fourth-doctor
i wonder if tom will still be alive in 2019

on a more serious note, 4 getting an audio companion actually sounds pretty neat. i'm yet to listen to any of his audios, has he had a new companion before?

>>82373983
>>82373998
TY Based anons

Can you give me a quick rundown on Charley?

>>82372785
it really wasn't, anon
they did the same thing with the monsters in journey to the centre of the tardis
whoever the director was thought that showing the monster in a low framerate made it look more scary when in reality it was just jarring and tacky.

>>82374045
oh I just remember everybody at the time saying it was stop-motion

>>82373697
it's legitimately up there tbqh
absolute best is a bit hyperbolic, though as far as nuwho two parters go you might be right

New
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Thread >>82374043

>>82374056
they were idiots, it's prosthetics same as always

>>82373912
>>82373932
>>82373939
Zagreus is pretty damn confusing, but also kind of neat. Paul's performance is on point, delivering a Doctor that's both charming and intimidating, especially when the anti-time/Zagreus entity comes into the picture.

I would recommend going through (most of) the Eighth Doctor line though. Lot's of great stories, plus it'll give you more context on the relationship between Charley and the Doctor.

>>82374009
Yes. Mrs Wibbsey is a new companion in Hornet's Nest and the two followup series.

>>82374016
Charley is an 18-year-old Edwardian girl from a well-off family who runs away from home and disguises herself as a crewmember on an airship. The airship crashes, but the Doctor saves her. Over the next few stories, we learn that she was supposed to die in the crash, and the Doctor has changed history, which eventually fucks up the universe in ways that are explained in Neverland.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/doctor-who/49192/doctor-who-series-10-knock-knock-spoiler-free-review

>In fact, there’s something gleefully old fashioned and patient about it, an episode that could easily be set in the past as much as in the present day. The sonic screwdriver is put away again, and it’s down to a bit of brainpower to work out just what’s going on. Without spoiling it, I really think this one delivered in the last third, too. One or two of the episodes this run have done the build up very well, and had to rush to wrap things up. Not here.