This was one of the best shows I've ever seen. I'm

It made one of my family members try to commit suicide.

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>>82287692

>>82287692
She looks like Natalie Portman.

>in this day and age
Discuss what? Your shilling?

Not sure if I like how many questions the ending left open.

>I like the hair.

>>82287692
the show was mediocre at best

>>82288705

such as?

THE GREAT DEBATE
long hair hannah v. short hair hannah
who is qtier?

Why do so many people shill for this show on /tv/? I haven't seen a single person take it seriously anywhere else on the internet. Even people who enjoyed it talk about it like a standard soap opera.

>>82287692
Girl is fat, plus show is shit...meh.

>>82287692
Kill yourself

Will there be a season 2 where they shoot up the school?

>>82289391

>Not liking T H I C C hannah

kys

>>82288874
is alex dead? Where did clay and tony go? Did the bakers win? Where will Justin go? Does Brace go to jail? Did Sheri? Will Tyler do a school shooting

>>82289564
Very possible.

>>82289564
did tyler shoot alex?

discuss

>>82289391
Well, she had to be just okay looking, otherwise it wouldn't have been even less believable.

>>82287692
It was okay.

>>82289291
Short hair but she being a sadfu makes me sad do I'll go with long after all.

https://youtu.be/D73yenbcg1A

>>82287692
Fuck off

I liked how the main charachter, Clay, a total cuck, got what was coming to him. He was such a pussy and then Hannah blamed him for killing herself because he was such a little pussy ass bitch the whole time.

>>82289806
Does it matter if he is dead or not? He tried to kill himself, with a gun, to the head. Even if he lives that is irrelevant.

Does it matter where Clay and Tony went? No. Probably to just chill out somewhere and get away from it all.

Yes the bakers most likely won. The tapes and with the counselor will seal the deal.

Don't know where he went. Probably to go be a broken fuck somewhere else, or crash with someone else. His family is fucked, and this sent him over the edge. Probably one of the better questions.

Bryce might go to jail. Lets see what his rich parents can do? I give it a 50/50. There is only the tape, and no physical evidence or living witness.

Forgot what Sheri did. Crash a car and kill someone?

Tyler will definitely go on a school shooting.

>>82289353
>I haven't seen a single person take it seriously anywhere else on the internet.
>implying it's being taken seriously here

Here's the deal, brah. Netflix has a lot of garbage but a lot of people here are not cutting the cord because there's something that keeps them coming back. For me it's the ability to watch a lot of Star Trek. To each his own, whatever. But when netflix hypes up its orignal series shit so much, people want to have a look at what it is. This series is good fodder for mockery just like the b-movies that MST3K watches. What you have here is a movie that teenage girls and maybe young women watch and take seriously and young men watch with scorn. But the chicks are decent looking and watching them get sexually traumatized is fun, so everyone's happy. It's like if American Pie took itself too seriously.

>>82287692
It was shit

I liked it though it was much better than The OC

>>82290421
>Clay and Tony
Those two spend too much time together. Tony is beta orbiting Clay and going to slay his boipucci in a moment of weakness.

>>82287816
she can natalie my portman any time ^^

Anyone else think Alex was gay? Tony looked at him like he was once. He sure acted gay an

>>82289353
I don't see a lot of shilling, but the reactions (at least with my normie friends) were really poor. I undertand all the criticism regarding pace, her reasons, sjw pandering and what not, but IMO it's a really solid mystery. Following the tapes left by a dead person was a cool concept.

The show felt like some of those "walking simulators" games, which is something I enjoy but it's a niche genre.

>>82290929
I thought it was good because there wasn't a lot of PC sjw pandering

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>>82287816

13 reasons why I am not responsible for my own actions.

>>82290928
if the character wasn't gay the actor sure was
totally had the mannerisms of a homo, and that hair jesus christ

so glad they beefed up those TRIGGER WARNINGS dx

>>82287692
>hannah said to mr. Porter that she did nothing to stop the rape and isn't even sure it was rape
>well then you just have to get over it if you can't name the boy and are not even sure if it was rape
>omg wtf I want a magical solurion from you to solve this!

What did she mean by this

>>82287740
Or did you try to kill her?

It was good in that my friends and I now use the phrase "it's time for you to make some tapes" as an insult to each other.

I don't know whether I should like or hate this show. It tried really hard to be edgy and relevant but at the same time did some "le 90's kids xD" nostalgia pandering with the characters speaking like mafia crime bosses. Fucking horrible writing.

The mystery itself was interesting though

Hyped for a school shooting-themed second season

It was a grittier Cyberbully with better production value.

It was a shit show with bad actors and bad writing. The lead actor looks like he has a birth defect. Actress was qt though.

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>>82290929
>felt like some of those "walking simulators" games, which is something I enjoy

this is all I needed to hear about this show. what a piece of shit.

>>82291338
this show just reinforces the little victim bitch mentality this generation has.

just blame everybody else, that'll show them.fucking idiots.

whatever hapenned to "the best revenge is doing well". It's what all the nerds in the 80's did and now they run the world. too bad they didn't teach the next generation how to not be little bitches.

>>82287816
more like FATalie Portman lol

>>82291153
>Implying he acted in a professional manner at all
Hannah pretty much said she was gonna kill herself to him and he lied to Clay about seeing her the day she an heroed, he obviously felt guilty about it.

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>*blocks your path*
wat do?

>>82291525
>This generashun lil BITCHEZ lil pussy not alpha liek me
Literally every generation to the next one

>>82291705
Suck his fat latino dick

>watching first ep
>she's thirsty for jock cock and actually stalks him

disturbing

>>82287692
It's ok, but extremely frustrating, given that it had potential to be much better than it is. Despite the good production and decent acting, the dialogue and plotting were both often cringe worthy, young adult, overly dramatic, and simply dumb ideas.

Oh I think I'm going to kill myself, but first I'm going to sit down and record 13 hours of tapes in which I'm snarky, witty, and omniscient, without ever displaying emotions. I'm also going to distribute it in an aesthetically cutesy way with trendy retro cassettes that I decorate with flowers.

Oh hey, I'm Tony, I'm also omniscient. I know where everybody is at all times, and I can teleport into the scene every time it's convenient to the plot.

Every character is a model, nobody behaves like a real person, and it's preachy while at the same time trivializing everything it preaches about. Super annoying watch, which is a shame because it has a lot going for it, production wise.

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>>82291742
nigga please

>>82292465
Very cringe worthy my friend, I think you belong on facebook

uh, I got to return some video tapes

>>82291705
Listen to the tapes

but also >>82291779

>>82291742
>>82292813
kys

>>82293368
confirmed underage

>a hugly bitch gets raped by a retarded rich kiddo
>she decide to kill herself and drag in this shit 12 other people completely extraneous to the fact
>OMG AMAZING SERIES

This is a fucking pile of shit

>>82287692
>This was one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Damn, all two of them?

>>82290421
Everyone involved in all those shitty loose end would record a tape to drop it to cuckclay. Season 2 is done!

fml 4evr

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>>82287692
https://vid.me/iTUH

this show should have been seven 30 minute episodes. it drags way too much

>>82287816
Nutella Porkman

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>>82289391
>>82291589
>>82294736
>>82295619
You will STOP bullying my suicidefu at once or I will fuck you up.

finished this.
clays thing was pretty fucking weak. he should have been the one who took revenge on hannah after hannah rejected him
seriously he's a cuck for 80% of the show they didn't need to puss out and even throw in some pity sex scene
it was way too long which is an issue with all netflix shows

worth watching though

>>82296239
Not to mention that Ryan and Zach especially didn't really deserve a tape but Netflix insists on pushing 13 episodes per season.

>>82296005
Bring it, bitch

>>82290929
> Following the tapes left by a dead person was a cool concept.
Yeah it was a good concept for hooking you on the show but after 4 episode you quickly understood that the mistery had no value whatsoever.
I went for the mistery stayed for the thicc drama queen waifu

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>knows for a fact guy is a rapist
>goes to his party anyway and gets into jacuzzi in underwear

Is isis right? Do woman deserve to be raped?

>>82296587
Well she wasn't planning to go into the hot tub, she was peer pressured by Jessica and the others. But yeah, it was stupid to go to Bryce's party and then not immediately leave after Zach and the chick left the tub. But I guess she was relaxed and wasn't expecting Bryce to rape when she is fully awake and aware and do it in the open like that.

>>82296587
But anon, the sound of the party drew her in. Parties are magical events where anything can happen, and evidently lots of rape.

>>82296330

>literally based on a book called 13 reasons why
>thinks Netflix stretched it out into 13 different arcs

>>82287743
DZEIN AUTOO!

The dialogue is so horrible, no real person talks like that. I tried explaining this to my friend but he had no idea what I was talking about.

>>82297089
For example?

>>82297249
Any interactions in the first few episodes were especially bad. The conversations the black chick, the gay guy and Hannah have at the cafe and also when Hannah and the black chick first meet stand out as terrible.

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>>82287692
So who was the worst person on the show inb4 hannah/clay? I think Bryce is definitely number 1 then followed by Courtney and Montgomery.

>>82297352
I could see somebody talking like that. Teenagers are pretty dumb.

Why are almost all the male actors in this show noticeably homosexual? Even the ones who are meant to be playing straight characters yet still have that gay accent

>>82297498
>almost all
>3 of 11 males are gay in the show

What did he mean by this?

>>82287692
>literally DUDE DON'T MAKE ME TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS! - the show
i can see why millennials dig it so much desu

>>82289806
Yes
Who cares
Doubt it
Jail most likely
Probably
Doubt it
I hope so

>>82298062
There's that word again.

>>82298333
what word?

>>82298342
I'll let you fire up your neurons and figure it out for yourself.

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>>82298351
millennials?
literally?

>>82298376
Yep, you got it.

>>82298062
are you 40 years old or 10 years old?

>>82298126
wow, thanks lad. Now they won't have to do season 2 :^)

>>82298441
im 19, born in 1998. Im part of Generation Z

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>>82287692
>It's a Justin makes ambiguous edgy threats to Clay but never actually does anything episode

>>82290929
>The show felt like some of those "walking simulators" games
Thanks for the warning, gotta stay away from those "life is tumblr" type games

Fuck this SJW shitfest. 13 moral lessons would have been a better title
>Muh i killed myself because i've been objectified
>Muh fuck """frat boy""" (fratboy are hated in sjw culture because they are viril)
>Muh girl who get wasted at party have no responsability in the consequences
>Muh the only good guy is the personification of the "whiteknight" concept and a beta who is scared of woman

Add to this the fact that they choose an obese girl as main caracter, colored people as actors just to complete their quota, also gay character (to normalize it),

Fuck liberals and fuck american XXIcentury puritanism

>>82299564
Fuck off /pol/. The only decent people in the show are white (jeff, clay and alex). And she's not obese you dense fuck, get the heck out of my board.

>>82299678
I am not talking about about the characters but about the actors.
Also go back to réddit, get the fuck out of my site and kys yourself my dude

>>82299867
so only white people are allowed to act?

>>82299891
No but they should chose actors for their performance not for their skin color as they did in this show.

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>>82287692
What did we think of this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgibCniXltc

>>82291153
If a counselor acted like that in real life and got caught he'd lose his job. At least in any civilized schooling system, which I guess doesn't include America.

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>>82287692
>This was one of the best shows I've ever seen

>>82289848
Probably not since he took his picture down from his cave because Alex took his side in the hallway.

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>>82287692
>tfw you finally ask a girl out and she just laughs at you and says "YOU want to go out with ME?"

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>>82287692
This was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

>>82290694
>But the chicks are decent looking and watching them get sexually traumatized is fun

how much of that is there in the series? if it's a lot i may give it a go

>>82300749
that isnt really an outrageous statement. tv in general is garbage and the show itself is good

>>82301746
Bit of groping here and there and 2 rapes.

This is all a meme right? Like when you guys pretend to like Baby Groot or something. This shit was objectively awful, even by Netflix standards

>>82301802
sounds like it has potential, might give it a shot later

>>82302009
Do, it's pretty comfy and hannah is beyond qt 3.14.

lol I haven't even seen this show and I already know it's shit and I'm not even going to attempt to watch it fuck you

>>82287692
hannah trolled clay so hard

>>82299564
>Muh fuck """frat boy""" (fratboy are hated in sjw culture because they are viril)
I love how Hannah has to mythologize the atmosphere of parties to cover the cognitive dissonance of her "hating" frat-types and simultaneously wanting to be near them and have sex with them.

>These dumb brutes are awful
>But I just can't stay away
>That guy's a rapist!
>But I lost $715 today and the party he's hosting looks fun. I'll just accept the hospitality of a criminal to cheer myself up.

They preach a set of values so poorly that they end up undermining those values.

>>82302772
>doesn't allow clay to fuck her, he even asked for her consent
>she would rather get raped by Bryce

pretty accurate description of a stacy.

>>82290724
I got that vibe as well. And his boyfriend probably knew from the start too.

>>82290724
>>82303234
https://youtu.be/K5Ooku73f7g?t=85

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>>82287692
Jeff deserved better 2bh.

>>82303491
Not entirely sure if this is supposed to disprove the fact that he's chasing Clay's tail hard or cement it.
He seems absolutely disgusted with the idea of Ryan being his friend. Unless he sees him as nothing more than a fuckhole, that's not a normal reaction, regardless of him still being with one foot in the closet

Clay did nothing wrong

>>82294736
Confirmed for not understanding it

>>82298938
>It's a Clay hears about a crime in the tapes but tells no one for no reason episode

>>82304411
>>82304444
Oh fug, I got both trips and dubs

>contrarianposters in /tv/ pretend to hate it and have to pretend to like Bryce to cover up their contrarianism

>>82287692
No idea but she's a cutie. Would watch her while I die a bit more inside knowing I'll never have someone as lovely card about me.

>ywn work at a movie theater with a qt who calls you a nerd flirtatiously and then ask her out at some point

>>82304382
Jeff and Clay did nothing wrong

>Clay Jensen looks like a young CIA

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>>82304509
>>82304539
These. Just what the heck is the point of living? jdimsa.

>>82302772
She was just about getting accepted back into the school's social circle. Why wouldn't she go to a party she stumbled upon to distract herself from a shitty thing that happened.

Also, If you as a person misread somebody's unwillingness to fuck without having a NO screamed in your face than you wouldn't listen to that no either way. And it was pretty evident in that scene. Some people in these situations, especially already vulnerable/hurt/self-loathing people, go into self preservation mode a la "it'll be over quicker and hurt less if I keep quiet and don't struggle"

>>82304259
Yeah me neither. I think he may have a crush on Clay.

>>82304508
This tbsfh
Sad state of affairs.

>>82304680
This. And she did try to get out of the tub a couple of times but Bryce is a big guy so the struggle was pointless and so she just let it happen.

>>82304794
>>82304638
>Clay confronts Bryce
>"Was getting caught in the tapes part of your plan?

Which episode is the rape in? Is it graphic? Does the guy cum inside?

i had to pull my naked 13 year old sister from a bathtub filled with her blood, dial 911 and bandage her hands while blubbering like a little child. she was ice cold but her eyes were still open.

ill never forget the way those dead eyes looked up at me, pleading.
>why didn't you pick up your phone anon
>i called 10 times but you didn't answer
>you should've been here to save me
>you can't save me now, im just a corpse
>this is your fault, mom and dad will never forgive you


when i read weird incest or suicide shit it reminds me what children 4chan users are, living in safe and comfortable fantasy lives, never having to experience trauma first hand, never handling death. turns out she killed herself because her "secret" boyfriend kissed another girl at a party behind her back. 10/10 high school drama, would live through the fucking misery of burying a child again. it ruined the life of my youngest sister who was 10 at the time, little runt has had the most overprotective teenage experience imaginable. I can see her teetering into total whoredom the moment she goes to college. tv shows like this are pointless tumblr trash, watch six feet under if you want to experience some quality drama.

>>82287692
>one of the best shows I've ever seen

Watch The Wire you fagit.

>>82304858
Clay went through all that trouble with the tape recorder just to keep the retro AESTHETIC going instead of recording it stealthily on the his phone.

I gotta hand it to the guy, he's got conviction... or is incredibly stupid.

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>>82304863
https://vid.me/iTUH

Entire show is liberal shitposting.

1. Normalises alcoholism
2. Normalises suicide
3. Normalises bullying
4. Normalises single child families
5. Normalises baby boomers
6. Normalises the 'nation state' dream
7. Normalises Homosexuality/Lesbianism
8. Normalises mixed race families
9. Normalises interracial relationships (WM/BF LMFAO)
10. Normalises diversity.

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>>82304969
>the way she just goes limp and lets it happen paralyzed by fear

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>>82304875
That's the duality of media.
It either makes everything violent or turns it into romance.
The masses absorb extremes the best as those are the most marketable.

>>82304969
Eh kinda short not worth watching 13 episodes of beta crying for.

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Pic related could be banging 5 girls at the same time and I still wouldn't buy the straight act.

Nothing will convince me that his self inflicted 360 no scope headshot at the end wasn't connected to that, Satan dad notwithstanding.

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>>82305099
Can't even fap to it for that reason. I'm pretty edgy if I do say so myself but too much is too much. I even unironically teared up a bit. The way her eyes are just completely dead.

>>82304382
>>82304572
Clay did a bunch of things wrong. Read her anonymous poem to her and then commented to it that he's not sure if he'd like to hang out with whoever wrote this.

Then when they got to the action, he got her consent, she suddenly flipped out but he didn't stay and insist her to tell what the hell happened. Even Jeff tried to stop Clay from leaving by saying let her cool down for a minute and then go back.

Clay was a passive beta orbiter who couldn't take the numerous hints she gave to him prior to the party.

Jeff was the only teen in the show who did absolutely nothing wrong.

>>82305099
>>82305360
Christ it's just a TV show that bitch lives in a mansion and fucks chads all day long irl.

Sorry to hear about you shitty taste, OP. I hope you get better.

>>82306122
Fuck you, she's pure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usfRCLa5gUo

I don't get why they go out their way to show that Asian Chad didn't threw Hannah's letter, like she said he did in the tapes.

It was to put the idea in the viewer that Hannah might be lying (at least in some aspects)? Why don't they touch that subject again? What was the point of it?

>>82306410
Well the tapes tell Hannah's truth, from her viewpoint. Maybe she thought he threw it away? I'm not really certain from whose viewpoint the flashbacks are. Clay's?

>>82305080
>2. Normalises suicide
yeah that honestly seems to be the case. she got to be a celebrity after she killed herself and get some 'revenge' on the people who wronged her.

>>82306410
It's possible that he threw away a different letter he found in there. Either someone else's compliment or rude comment, etc.
I don't feel like rewatching to make sure if it was actually shown but I'm pretty sure that Hannah didn't pick it up either.
He may have even come back for it.
Or he could've forged it in the hopes that Clay would think she's spouting lies so that they could move on with their plan to keep him from spilling about the tapes.

i just watched the entire 13 hour show in 14 hours or something wtf it brings back so many memories from high school i'm figuratively literally shaking

i remember being so alone and the only friends i had as a sophomore was /b/ circa 2010 where i would go to feels threads and cry. i thought about suicide every day i actually even thought about something like the tapes to make people remember me because i was invisible to them. if my parents had had a gun i wouldn't be posting here

>>82307550
I feel you. I was bullied from basically 12 years old to 18, if not daily then at the very least on a weekly basis. After a few years I became completely numb to the bullying, I just accepted it and went on with my life. What's funny is that now I'm 21 and I'm actually all around positive person even though I was tormented in the most vulnerable age. I put it all behind me and I find comfort in not having to ever go back to that school and see those "people".

>>82307550
>>82307772
Man, I'm really sorry you had to go through that shit and want to apologize about all the pointless suffering that took so many years from your childhood and teen years that were supposed to be the most carefree time of one's life. All because of idiots like me who thought their shit "friends" would stick around if they amuse them by bringing somebody weaker down.
The absolute worst and most ironic part is that one of those boys I bullied ended up becoming my only real friend to this day (I'm still waiting to get revenge killed in my sleep). Thankfully I got my head screwed on right, but still it doesn't justify anything or make shit right... I'm sorry and I wish there was a way actually do something to prevent bullying.

>>82308379
Thanks. Telling the teachers or parents didn't do jack shit to prevent bullying, and no kid wants to be put on a spotlight like that, myself included. What boggles my mind is that some of them thought it was "funny" or that they were just joking around, completely oblivious that it hurts. I don't get how people are so blind at reading other people. Like I sais, it's in the past now and I won't have to see those people ever again. Despite all of this I try to be as nice and generous to everybody I interact with, I see no point in hurting other people for "your own amusement"

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>>82287692
The heck was his peoblem?

>>82308650
That's the absolute fucking worse, that you can't even rely on an adult in this situation. Parents tend to overreact or make shit worse and teachers don't want to get involved because they believe they're underpaid or it'd be too much trouble.
And kids can be so disproportionately cruel. I'll never forget the fucking sick cackling when we threw a kids entire backpack content including mp4 player (that was probably the only lifeline they had to get through the day in that hellhole) in the toilet for no reason at all, the guy was just sitting on the floor alone, waiting for class to start.
We watched some documentary on Nazis and concentration camps a couple days later and that's what it reminded me of so much it made me sick to my stomach and I stopped forever after that and went into full defense mode, which still doesn't make up for it.
ALSO the fucking idiots who claim that bullies are just as toooortured/are just trying to vent their own pain are apologists and enforcers. All those idiots alongside me came from more or less rich/well off families, had both parents, some had siblings, some didn't, definitely had no such excuse to back our behavior.

Your behavior and disposition are commendable though, possible an exception. Goes to show who's got the stronger and better character in the end.
Sorry about the rant. It's too late to change anything in the past but still it can help to set things straight sometimes.

>>82300718
Fuck fuck cringed so hard; when the razor goes in fuck

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>>82309289
>Sorry about the rant.

Oh it's quite alright, feels good to vent out every now and then. I don't talk about these things with my family, so what better way to do it than anonymously on the internet.

What pissed me off internally even more was the girls in my school who had cutting marks on their arms and very openly wallow "boohoo my life is so hard :(((" and then there's me who just takes shit on a regular basis and then I just bury it. I don't talk to anybody about it, I don't cut myself, occasionally I cried home when nobody saw but that's it. And each day I went in hoping maybe today will be better, it rarely was. Nobody ever apologized to me, but I don't hold grudges. At least after high-school you see who was your friend and who was your "friend", seeing how they stopped contacting me once everybody spread out to different schools and jobs and whatnot.

>>82287740
i guess it's your fault, and everyone around him/her

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>>82310056
Those who truly suffer usually don't openly show it.
The girls who scratched their arms did probably use that self harm as a sort of valve to release pressure, to express themselves or to be recognized, no doubt. Teenage shit gets bad enough on the inside without the added bullying or harm from others. So I wouldn't discredit their perception of how bad they had it.

It definitely stands on a separate level to what you've been put through and how you had to grit your teeth to push through and make it out to the other side.
As great as it is that you're looking on the bright side now that you're free of school hell, talking (out loud that is) about the shit you left behind might help further though, especially considering you're only 21. This is an alright substitute, but a hostile environment as is.
I wouldn't be surprised we both continue going on this shit site as some kind of punishment and to keep ourselves down and our expectations of life and people as low as possible to avoid further disappointment.

>>82287692
this haircut is so cute. i love it

>>82310814
>I wouldn't be surprised we both continue going on this shit site as some kind of punishment and to keep ourselves down and our expectations of life and people as low as possible to avoid further disappointment.

Yup, this sounds about accurate. I don't really expect anything out of people anymore, humans are cruel and that's that. I do have actual friends now that I'm an adult though, so thankfully I'm not alone. I don't think talking about my past out loud will help anything, it doesn't haunt me anymore and I think remembering too much into it may only harm me by opening old wounds.

I want to thank you anon, this brief conversation we had helped me feel better. I honestly didn't expect to have this conversation on /tv/ of all places but here we are. I hope all the best for you, as cliche as that might sound.

Only good scene was the suicide. Mad love for that Mad love.

>>82287692
The more time passes, the more embarrassed I feel for liking the series as much as I did, though that doesn't nullify its actual merits.

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>>82311193
Well true, If you have successfully processed and managed to quarantine that whole shitshow, then you're probably right and going back into that headspace might not be of any benefit now.

I gotta give it to you, you've given me hope as well. Doesn't alleviate the guilt, but at least I know a few make it out well enough adjusted.
If nothing else those assholes didn't manage to ruin your entire life, so that's a victory you have over them.
Now I know wishing you that someday, someone manages to restore your view of humanity as whole may be unrealistic, but here's to hope, 100% cheesiness included.
And off into obscurity we fade.

>>82287692
what are her reasons?
you can spoil it for me. I´m not gonna watch it anyway.
the only thing that makes me consider society is looking at society and realizing that things are only going to get worse and that I have now cultural event to look forward too.

>>82289291

Definitely short hair.

>Show lauded for its realistic take on American high schools
> All characters are rich, even ones who are depicted as financially struggling
> Cliques don't exist, everyone knows each other and freely mingles with one another regardless of social status
> Kids play rock at house parties in 2017
> Hannah isn't some tryhard Tumblr girl or SJW
> Drug store in 2017 consistently stocks cassette tapes; kids born in 2000/2001 know how they work with ease
> Clay isn't some autist/robot/weeaboo
> Tony, a gay kid in 2017, is a fucking 1960s greaser

>>82287816
Hi

>>82312166
Well there are many individual things that lead to other things and they pile on but two of the biggest reasons are witnessing a rape and getting raped.

Okay, I'm gonna try my best to lay it all out for us.
SPOILERS INBOUND
INCOMING WALL OF TEXT

1. Before she was raped, she said she was giving life "one last shot." Being raped certainly crushed whatever spirit she had left.

>Why didn't she run away from Bryce?
Bryce is a beefy-ass jock, her fate was sealed the second she was alone, she could've tried to GTFO, but Bryce, being faster and stronger, would've got her and probably made it even worse.

2. We gotta look at it through her eyes. We, the audience, could see everything and what everyone was doing, but from Hannah's POV, she saw the hard outside of people, meanwhile we got to see their motivations/weaknesses. You think Hannah knew Justin had an awful homelife?

3. Things pile up. You could consider this show a perfect example of the straw that broke the camels back. Any one of those reasons alone wouldn't have hailed such drastic action (minus a couple) but all of that shit on top of the boulder that is getting raped was simply too much to bear.
>But what about Zach, that reason was stupid
Agreed, but at this point she was just looking for something to grasp onto. Consider it a lot like drowning, but your temple is still out of the water. You're so close, and you need the smallest boost, but something happens and you get pulled the rest of the way into the water.

4. Forgive her stupidity. One of the main arguments against the show was how she got herself into some of those situations. But again, we need to look at it from her angle. Clay is probably her only friend/work buddy. Her other friends have either embarrassed her or fucked her over. She watched one of them get raped (save for later) and lost her family nearly a grand by mistake. At this point she is probably desperate for some friendly company. So much so she is willing to put herself in the path of danger to have someone who isn't out to get her, and as we see, this goes terribly wrong.

Will cont

>>82309396
The sound effects especially are pretty haunting. No music or anything, kino as fuck.

>>82312738

continued:

5. She didn't help her friend, fuck her
She was locked in a room with a rapist twice her size/strength, in a house full of wasted teenagers. Those odds don't look to good. Had she screamed, Bryce probably would've done something drastic, not only rape her as well, but silence her so she wouldn't snitch. Not to mention the door was locked, so by the off chance someone did hear her over the chatter and music, they couldn't have gotten in.

That's basically all I've got, just wanted to lay out what I think about some of the gripes of the show.


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>>82312777
>alternate universe where 13RW releases in 2007
>suicide scene has My Chemical Romance blasting

>>82287692
>dude hannah is an unlikable idiot who gets into bad situations that could have easily been avoided if she had the slightest bit of common sense
>dude lmao clay is a huge pussy who despite apparently having loads of friends and getting along well with everyone doesn't understand that hannah is practically begging for him
>dude everyone else is a complete psychopath haha, american high schools are just full of pyschos and suicidal teens amirite fellow kids?

Absolute trash

>>82312866
Well she could've ran to the room door, unlocked it and stormed out alerting somebody. But yeah, she was drunk and a girl so I guess totally freezing up in that wardrobe is plausible.

>>82311752
It was unironically a great show. Being the huge faggot that I am, I even rewatch some of the more impactful scenes in the show and start tearing up all over again.

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>>82313626

same
>Not having a sad QT GF that calls you cute nicknames

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does she get her tits out at any point

>>82313786
no

>>82313786
There are numerous scenes where she has wet clothing, she's in a bra, etc.

>>82312866
That's basically it. Bad experiences piling up and feeling abandoned/without support.
I still think the length could've been cut in half. Hannah's reasons and recounting of events got somewhat drowned in all the other stuff that was going on, so it lost impact.

>>82313626
cringe

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>>82287692
I loved this show. It touched me deeply, really reminded me of some stuff which happened to me as well. I went as far as to watch it twice in a row. This show made me want to be Hannah's friend and keep her safe and happy. I also felt really bad about Alex, Justin and Tyler, despite Justin being an ass and Tyler a bit of a creep. I felt bad for what happened to Jessica, but she annoyed me as a character. Courtney, Marcus and Bryce can all go fuck themselves.

If there's a season 2 I hope it focuses on Alex (another suicide/suicide attempt) or Tyler (school shooting).

Alex is so cute.

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>>82313714
>Clay... helmet... your name does not belong on this list

>>82314014
Don't forget Zach. Deep down he was a decent person, he just hanged out with the wrong people and her mother expected too much from him.

>>82314119
True, he seemed sweet. Imagine if Hannah had listened to Kat and gone for him instead of Justin. Maybe things would've gone differently, better.

>>82314191
Yeah. The show impacted me like no other show has in a while. It's a bit bizarre actually, maybe because I can relate to it on so many occasions and it makes me realize how easy it is to be all wise from an outside perspective "oh he/she should've done that and that" when in reality often things just happen and only afterwards the what ifs start pouring.

>>82314317

The biggest impact it had on me was changing my view of rape.

I always had the "don't be a slut, don't get raped" mentality, but I think this show has changed something in me.

>>82314382
What do you think of rape now?

>>82314382
Same here.

I just don't like the bittersweet ending. Well the whole show is bittersweet to be honest. You learn from episode 1 that Hannah is dead and every moment where things go well for her or her and clay start warming up and she's happy, you always have the knowledge in the back of your head in every episode that oh yeah, she commited suicide and she won't get a happy ending no matter what.

It's better than the OA

>>82314587

I think it's unavoidable in some circumstances regardless of how you dress and act.

>>82315272
Well, I'm glad you changed your view. I never thought that way to begin with, but maybe it's because I'm a girl and have had some experiences which clearly showed me otherwise.

>>82315326
No it's fucking boring and drawn out and garbage the entire time

finished the first episode just now

sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

trust a woman to want to squeeze out every last drop of attention out of something by doing this tape bullshit

>>82287692
She looks like the kind of girl that would gain massive amounts of weight if she wasn't on a strict diet and didn't workout regularly.
Like if she wasn't an actress I have no doubt she'd be a fucking cow.

>>82313846
nice

>>82314382
she would have avoided rape if she didn't want to fuck chads and knowingly hung around guys with bad reputations

>>82287692

They handle depression in a superficial way and she still kills herself. It's a trashy suicide-revenge show that teaches nothing. watch Welcome to NHK, faggot. now THAT show really hits you.

post some shots of this thicc babe pls

Anyone else get mad that she left ditched her co-worker crush for some Chad cock and then got mad when Chad was being Chad.

>>82287816
Notenough Porkman

>>82287692
This show was laughably bad. The best part was when she slit her wrists.

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You know i had friends once and it was great until they stab you in the back.

Now i'm friendless and i'm ok. Why can't women handle being alone?

>>82300718
I've seen this like 4 times, and even under that frumpy sweater her tits are distracting.

>GET OUT NOW
>WHY DID YOU LEAVE

I'm glad Hannah died.

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Episode 1

>Clay: what do I do
>Tony: try listening to the tapes

Episode 12

>Clay: WHAT DO I DO
>Tony: try listening to the tapes

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>>82287692
RIP Jeff
The true hero and the one the show should have been about

>>82289391
>Girl is fat
Welcome to your tape

>>82317292
this, and going to the party of rapist Bryce after KNOWING he raped Jessica.

After 4-5 epísodes I started to dont give a fuck about her.

>>82317481
>he died because I broke a 'STOP' sign, even though he probably drived a million times over there

>>82317629
maybe the old man ran the stop sign

>>82317481
I hadn't realized that Jeff wasn't in any of the present scenes until the start of Sherri's tape.

I literally yelled, "JEFF NO" when I realized what happened.

Jeff was Clay's best friend and probably the only person in the school aside from Tony who looked out for Clay. Jeff could have been a dick like Montgomery but instead Jeff was a cool dude.

RIP Jeff.

>>82317629
>>82317660
This. Based on the cars, Jeff was coming back and the old man ran the stop sign, probably tried slamming on the brakes to stop, but due to the wet roads from it raining didnt and ended up slamming into Jeff and killing him by hitting the drivers side door.