/who/ Doctor Who General - Doctor Who was FOUNDED by ETHNIC JEWS

>the measure of human civilization isn't industry, it's the value you put on the life of your felow man
yeah but, uh, doctor.. industry and value of life go hand in hand. that's literally how it has always worked since the first guy realized it was more efficient for him to hunt while his neighbor farmed, instead of each of them getting enough meat and crop for their own needs. it forces you to care more about other people and be more involved in things as a community instead of just one little household against the world.
for god's sake, the industrial revolution didn't just end slavery, it raised the question against slavery in the first place. the ONLY question. the idea that no matter how rich you are, and no matter how low-class someone else might be, they're more valuable to you as an employee and a customer than as property.
industry replaces labor, freeing people up to THINK more. christ, doctor.
harvesting whale shit as rocket fuel isn't industry, it's harvest. harvest has always been the antithesis of industry. harvest is what made slavery so huge. reaping what you didn't sow, or making someone else do the sowing and reaping and you just get to keep it. fishermen and miners and things like that have always been the enemy. it's nothing to do with industry, y'mook.

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WHY WON'T YOU LIKE MEEEE

>>82207215
>mansplaining capitalism
ugh
i bet your one of the fascists who though london shouldnt be 50% black
>>>/pol/

>>82206909
The original Britons/Celts were Black

http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=2225

>>82206909
>no link to previous thread
Know how I know you just showed up today to stir shit?

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FIRST FOR BILL SLAVE EPISODE

>>82207215
* In your opinion.

Stop pushing for /pol/ threads, just go to /pol/. These are barely even Doctor Who related at this point.

>>82207278
They put a link right in the parent post

>>82207278
Are you blind? Look again. Under the picture.

How many days do you think it will be before both sides calm down and Thin Ice settles into its place as a forgettable episode?

>>82207276
Stonehenge was built by blacks.

>>82207353
>Thin Ice settles into its place as a forgettable episode

In your opinion.

>>82207353
Never, lefty/pol/ will always defend it.

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>>82207353
24 hours or so

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>muuh slavery
>muuh oppression
>literally affirmative action casting

but the best was the Doctor's line

>history is a whitewash

FUCKING DROPPED, fuck you Moffat you SJW piece of shit.

Why can't they keep their socialist hands out of my Who? FUCK YOU.

>>82207398
>fuck you Moffat

In your opinion.

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Doctor Who viewers LOVE the Time Lord for punching racist character who insulted Bill Potts
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-viewers-love-time-10325273

>>82207353
Best episode ever. Doctor Who punched the evil white male capitalist sexist racist. And we saw historically accurate England before it was whitewashed.

>>82207373
What the hell is lefty /pol/? I thought /pol/ was all "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong" memes and le pepe

>>82207396
In your opinion. Could take longer.

>>82207421
it makes them think of what they want to do with Farage

>traveling back to times when there was slavery with my black companion to make unnecessary political commentary and score browny points with the sjws

literally torchwood 2.0

Who is dead

>>82207435
leftypol is an 8ch thing I believe, it's the left-wing equivalent of /pol/

>>82207435
>Hitler Did Nothing Wrong

In your opinion, and it's a pretty fucking rare opinion at that.

>>82207215
That speech was pretty underwhelming and pointless desu and the fact the characters kept saying how cool it was made it annoying.

>>82207421
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-viewers-love-time-10325273

/who/ fans need to escape to a fantasy world, because in the real world we shot Treyvon.

>>82207454
The thing is, there were no brownie points. London was 50% black and 50% white and everybody got on apart from the aristocrat/industrialist (those two are the same, apparently) who told a black woman to stand up and got punched for it.

The episode was terrible and the forced social commentary bullshit has no place in Doctor Who. Note "forced".

>>82207435
>>82207458
/pol/ was actually pretty left leaning years ago. It turned right/natsoc in the last 3 or 4 years.

>>82207491
I thought that one fat guy shot Treyvon, who is "we"?

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>>82207441
Sweet jesus let's hope not

>>82207529
>x was y z years ago
I hear this about everything, it's a total myth. /pol/ has always been anti-semitic, Nazi, and racist. There's a reason their slogan is "gas the kikes race war now".


/who/ was smart 100 years ago.

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>>82207529
The real question is, did /pol/'s general consensus shift to the right or has /pol/ stayed in the same place while the greater political spectrum shifted more to the left?

>>82207421
>Doctor Who viewers
>Three Doctor Who viewers on Twitter
If I gave a shit what people on Twitter thought, I'd go on Twitter.

>>82207623
The general concensus switching to the left made /pol/ what it is. Back when we were openly using gay as an insult 4chan was what tumblr is now.

>>82207615
>I hear this about everything, it's a total myth

So you have no proof and you were not here, but you refuse to believe it, because... you disagree with it? k

I lived it.

>>82207623
Oh no the board definitely shifted right. The social justice bullshit going mainstream and later gamergate was the tipping point.

It's quite interesting. From /new/ to /pol/ and the slow climb from liberal through libertarian to conservative.

/who/ census
http://www.strawpoll.me/12861546
http://www.strawpoll.me/12861546
http://www.strawpoll.me/12861546

>>82207752
What will be the next phase, do you think?

>>82207752
>you were not here,
Thought you were discussing /pol/? I was there and it was just as kike gassing as always.

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>>82207805
Make it again with unironic fascist.

>>82207805
Is this meant only for Americans or something?

You realise that "liberal" and "libertarian" both mean completely different things in the rest of the world vs. what they mean in America, right? Liberal means pro-business free-trade, like Paul Ryan, and "libertarian" means left-anarchist, like basically nobody in America (and very few people anywhere else), and the leftmost 50% of the UK and Europe can't pick any of your labels.

>>82207529
>forced

In your opinion.

this "everything I don't like is an opinion" meme is getting old

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>>82207932
"In your opinion" is my new favorite meme

>>82207839
Depends how real world stuff turns. People think the political opinion of /pol/ shift to be contrarian, but it is not that at all.

Most of the users are actually very centrist in their views which is shown in most surveys and tests that are often posted. They simply... adopt are centre-left or centre-right depending on where the pendulum is in the real world.

If politics keeps shifting left - /pol/ will become even more hardcore right, if things normalize - /pol/ will go back to more centrist views, if the real world pendulum swings too far right - /pol/ will go left. They react only when things go too far on either side.

Think of /pol/ as the balance in the Force.

I miss off season /who/.

>>82207952
In your opinion.

>>82207993
>Most of the users are actually very centrist in their views

In your opinion.

>>82207805
This is incomprehensible, wtf kind of categories are this.

>>82207847
your new is showing, you never experienced old/pol/. why lie?

>>82207993
Was /pol/ ever genuinely left? Wasn't ron paul their guy in the 2012 election (ie the first election since /pol/ was formed)?

>>82208063
>Was /pol/ ever genuinely left?

Not in the slightest.

>>82208101
So any claims that they'll shift left when consensus goes more right are completely unnfounded and it's equally likely they'll stay how they are

>You've been here before?
>Oh yeah, few times.

I don't know why Dollard was disappointed that she couldn't work in a good enough reference to all the past stories where the Doctor visited this frost fair. I mean, who but Gary Russell or Ian Levine would find it better if she'd had the Doctor say "Oh yeah, I never got here with Clara, but River found the best pies, and Mai Kondo had the most fun ice skating, and Vicki was excited but Steven was worried, and…"?

>>82208063
Never hardcore left, but most of the users held genuine liberal views. Please note at that time liberal was not the same as it is now, there were no mainstream social justice warriors.

At the time you mention it was already shifting to libertarian and anarcho-capitalism. The ancap period was the most hilarious.

>>82208138
Absolutely. "In my opinion" as an oldfag at least.

>>82208063
/new/ was /pol/ before /pol/ existed

>>82208157
American political definitions are so fucking bizarre. I honestly don't think Americans quite comprehend what the "left" actually is. It ain't your fucking liberals.

>>82208138
The guy responding to you can't accept his right wing safe space was something else years ago. Ignore him.

There is nothing worse than revisionism. Right wingers are supposed to be more logical and reasonable.

>>82208218
Absolutely true.

>>82208218
>mfw Bernie was a fucking communist in all but name

>>82207805
I'm legitimately curious: conservatives of /who/, what's your favorite aspect of the show?

yo, there's a real dr who thread here guys

>>82207425
>>82207425
>>82207425

>>82208351
Sanders is just a socdem, and a cuddly one at that. I'd barely call him leftist.

>>82208379
>splitting

>>82208379
We've had the talk from janitors before, if anything gets /who/ banned it will be thread splitting. It's the one specific thing we've been warned for. Never make a new thread, no matter how dumb the OP of one is. It disrupts /tv/, and the fact we get constant generals all year is a special position as it is.

Please folks, don't use the newthread, don't establish thread-splitting as an okay thing to do, especially in the on-season.

>>82208379
You want to get the general banned?

>>82208379
Fuck off cuck.

>>82208446
>>82208447
this would be years back, but do you guys remember when people would try and spam "/twg/ torchwood general" and "big finish general" and shit like that? it was fucking bad back then.

i like that these days we often don't even make a new thread right away at bump limit, i thought we'd well learned our lesson, so i'm hoping this is just noobs not aware of the culture around it. pls nobody became a legit threadspammer

>>82208447
That's exactly what he wants.

>>82208379
>cant handle the banter
Top fucking kek
>>>/r/doctorwho

>>82208404
>>82208446
>>82208447
It's obvious you're /pol/. It's also obvious this isn't a Dr Who thread.

>>82208311
>There is nothing worse than revisionism
but that's not what moffat thinks

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>>82208202
>>82208218
>>82208311
>>82208351
>>82208397
Can you stop derailing the thread and actually discuss Doctor Who?

>>82208540
We've suffered through more annoying and derailing OPs before, and we'll suffer through them again. If they annoy you that much, set the tone differently quickly in the new thread, like how neo-Cloister was doing with the "Carryovers" a while back.

Thread splitting will inevitably get /who/ banned in offseason if it becomes a habit. It's worth stomaching a shitty OP to keep the general going.

>>82208311
>Right wingers are supposed to be more logical and reasonable.
Not in today's America.

Pat Buchanan wrote a whole book bemoaning how his beloved American right was turning into emotion-led, anti-fact, anti-intellectuals, basically predicting Newt Gingrich's "how they feel is what matters" speech a decade before it happened.

I haven't watched thin ice yet

>>82208501
Mods actually banned the /got/ general for half a year (there were other reasons as well) and /who/ was warned.

Thread splitting is the one thing that is a taboo. I believe it's just new guys who are not aware of the rules/culture.

Also, when two threads are made by accident at the end of the current one we always use the earliest one posted, the other one dies. Simple and effective. Thread wars lead nowhere good.

>>82208587
You're not one to talk edge_lord, and you've been here long enough now that you should know how pointless posts like the one you just made are. All you've accomplished now is annoying anons like me who'll reply to you with posts like this, and incensing the political anons to keep talking about it because now it feels like rebelling against a trip.

>>82207623

4chan has always been contrarian.

>>82208621
>/who/ was warned
I thought the only "warnings" we got were memes? Like the "It's a nice general you've got here, it would be a shame if something were to happen to it. Behave."

>>82208688
IIRC we had some of those then a serious one. Best not push it.

it's a blatant fucking politically charged episode, isn't it normal to discuss the ramifications?

it's like not discussing spaceships in a spaceship episode

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>>82208688
Nope (although there have been plenty of those)

>>82208726
>it's a blatant fucking politically charged episode

In your opinion.

>>82208726
People are much more emotionally invested in politics than spaceship discussion, so while discussing it is only natural it also inevitably means the discussion is going to be much less civil

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>>82208593
Where is neo!Cloister, anyway? That fucker was determined to keep the general on topic no matter how much shitposting was going on. we need a hero like that right now

>>82208622
A fair point and well made

>>82208736
That was a meme also, anon

>>82208688
We had an actual mod post a warning. Thankfully nothing came of it, we just behaved and kept very quiet for a bit.

>>82208726
That's a fair point. It's inevitable, so just brace and wait it out.

>>82207104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJftr70OuP0
>>82207464
>There's a short story that does the same thing. After the Doctor swapped TARDISes with an alternate timeline Third Doctor in Blood Heat, he's feeling down because his TARDIS doesn't share all the memories he's had since The Silurians. But then he discovers that she's moved the swimming pool to the same place it was for Four, which the TARDIS did to let him know not to worry, she remembers because she's a TARDIS.

I doubt Dollard was specifically referencing that story (or that she even read it). But it is still a nice thought that the best explanation for why the wardrobe is back in the same place as in S1 is the TARDIS doing it intentionally for the Doctor for whatever reason.

>>82208756
I was away for a couple of days, then I saw the trip getting used by someone else and I didn't want to derail a thread with some tripfight so I didn't put it back on at the time.

>>82208736
>Big Finish isn't canon
Warning discarded.

As much as i limed the episode its a reminder of exactly why its a good thing moff is done after this season its plainly obvious even moff is tired of his tropes

fucking race baiting bullshit on my who... I am leggit mad at this

this is not RTD, so what gives? did Moffat finally sell out?

inb4 in your opinion

>>82208894
what if the next one is a RTD level sjiw?

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>>82208810
thank christ

I have a fuckton of BF and I'm going to run out of Broadchurch to watch soon, out of these, what do you recommend? Haven't heard any of them yet. They're all 5/8 because they're who I'm familiar with.

Some points that come to mind:

"Thin Ice" is also the name of a Big Finish story (a 7 Lost Story). The penultimate Series 10 episode, "World Enough and Time" is also the name of a River Song audio. Is Doctor Who so big that repeated titles are inevitable? Does it bother any anons? Any other thoughts?

Whether Chibnall has an American style writer's room isn't set in stone yet (at least he hasn't revealed it to the press and public yet even if it is). If he does, will he include any past writers? Established showrunners in their own right, like Whithouse and Harness and Gatiss might not deign to take the more "junior" role that is being in a writer's room, but fresh blood like Mathieson and Dollard (Dollard has showran a small show, but also worked in the Neighbour's writers room for years so she knows the drill), they might fit in nicely. Unless he wants completely new blood. Will he? Anyone got thoughts here?

Does anyone else really appreciate Dollard specifically made a point in the episode that the Doctor has had previous adventures at frost fairs? Is it a big deal for any anons when writers take the time to nod toward the "EU"/continuity like that? I personally appreciate it quite a bit, but does anyone think it's just purely superfluous?

>>82208917
What did RTD ever do that was SJWey?

Moffat's done it before.
Scene with Amy Pond, Nefertiti and random colonial guy.
Haha, Nefertiti is more famous than you, Girlz rule!
Hijab for the doctor when?

>>82208931
wut? you missed the rampant gay shit in Torchwood?

the strong womyn and evil white men in Who?

>>82208922
>Any other thoughts?
It confirms that the big finish stories aren't canon

>>82208917
I dont care if he is or not my post had nothing to do with that at all infact i actuallly liked when the doctor knocked that guy on his ass was funny

>>82208964
Next companion better be a hijab wearing lebanese immigrant, lesbian transsexual.

>>82208918
A tad bit incomplete, and it's sad that you're missing both Davros and Master! Embrace the Darkness is good for walking home at night by yourself, Neverland is amazing but requires the story arc. Spare Parts is amazing, as is Scherzo and Natural History of Fear.

>>82208967
>any time gays are shown it's inherently SJW
yeah nah

>>82208736
You've been meme'd, anon. This is an edit.

>>82208918
I'm a big fan of those 8 monthlies you got there. If you're after just a short little taster, you could go:

The Company of Friends (Mary's Story in particular)
The Silver Turk
The Witch from the Well
1Army of Death

Which is the Mary Shelley arc (which you drew such a lovely picture for a week or two back I think it was). A good self-contained journey.

As for the other ones...Storm Warning and The Stones of Venice are comfy, Minuet in Hell is hilarious whether you love it or hate it, Chimes of Midnight and Seasons of Fear are kino.

Spare Parts would be timely, since we're getting the OG Cybermen on TV again soon.

>>82209014
>Embrace the Darkness is good for walking home at night by yourself

I fell asleep the first time I listened to it, then was rudely awoken by the really creepy whispering. Freaked me out well good.

>>82209023
yes, when it's unnecessary or forced

there's no reason for Harkness to be gay

>>82208736
>>82209051
Unless that pic was supposed to be an example of one of the meme warnings instead of the real warning. Just realized I might have misunderstood.

>>82209087
There's no reason for any character to be straight either

>>82209087
>gay

He was omnisexual you fucking retard

>>82209075
Honestly, I should've bought it on CD when I had the chance. The story is seriously underrated, and it deserves more attention.

>>82208922
>Does anyone else really appreciate Dollard specifically made a point in the episode that the Doctor has had previous adventures at frost fairs? Is it a big deal for any anons when writers take the time to nod toward the "EU"/continuity like that? I personally appreciate it quite a bit, but does anyone think it's just purely superfluous?

See >>82208153

I think this was the absolute perfect way to do it.

For me, it's a reference to River, one audio, and two novels. For someone else, it might be a reference to River and two audios. For someone who knows nothing but TV, it's just a reference to River plus some unseen adventures. It works for everyone.

>>82209110
...except 99.9% of people are straight and yet 50% in Torchwood are gay

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>>82209014
Oh it's nowhere near complete, I know. I just downloaded 5/8 stories at random from a large torrent.

>Embrace the Darkness is good for walking home at night by yourself
Good as in immersive or good as in you're being cheeky and it's going to make me paranoid as fuck having me look over my shoulder every 10 seconds

I've heard good things about Spare Parts! I'll write the others down, too.

>>82209075
>Which is the Mary Shelley arc (which you drew such a lovely picture for a week or two back I think it was)

Oh, you mean pic related?

Thanks nu!Cloister, you give great recommendations :)

>>82209110
No one mentions when a character is straight, no one cares, it's no necessary for the story.

So why make it a point when someone is gay unless you have an agenda?

Checkmate.

>>82209168
95% more like
Do you know how demographics work? Certain demographics are drawn to certain things disproportionately. There's no inherent even distribution of anything in life. Complaining about there being multiple gay people is idiotic.

>>82209168
>50% in Torchwood are gay
It's more like 90% are bisexual and the other 10% are also potentially bisexual.

>>82209102
IIRC that pic is just a meme edit from the /got/ warning, but we did receive actual warnings. Right? My /who/ memory is hazy now, but I've been on-and-off here since 2013, and I feel like I recall a legit thread splitting warning.

>>82209129
What I'd give for a set of the discontinued CD printings of the early monthlies...

>>82209138
Yeah, you've nailed it, it's written in a way that it works for anyone which is what Doctor Who and its lack of canon is all about. Really like the spirit behind that.

>>82209177
Hope you enjoy! :)

I had to redownload a bunch of BF stories I lost on a crashed hard drive a few weeks back and I was alarmed how many of those older torrents are pretty dead. For quite a few stories I had to rip them from VK.

>>82209177
Gonna get real blog-posty here: I was walking home at night after hanging with a friend,
and was listening to it. Short story short, I freaked out a bit and ran home thanks to the story. Basically, I'm a bitch and it showed me that.

>>82209206
Is a guy and a girl kissing not making a mention of the fact they're straight?

Since being straight is the default, it makes sense that being gay has to be pointed out in some circumstances.

Can you point to a time in torchwood where they obnoxiously pointed out the fact someone was not straight rather than it being a natural part of the story?

>>82209249
Try lsitening to the no sleep podcast on the way home sometime

I'm 15 minutes in and this episode feels on par with The Empty Child. When does it all go to shit?

>>82209247
>I had to redownload a bunch of BF stories I lost on a crashed hard drive a few weeks back and I was alarmed how many of those older torrents are pretty dead. For quite a few stories I had to rip them from VK.

Truly a chilling thought, and a good reminder to buy myself a back up hard-drive.

>>82209258
>it makes sense that being gay has to be pointed out in some circumstances.

There are 0 such circumstances. It is not needed unless you are pushing an agenda.

>bnoxiously pointed out the fact someone was not straight rather than it being a natural part of the story?

Every. Single. Episode.

>>82209298
It doesnt its a decent episode just idiots whinging about muh sjws

>>82209298
empty child is a shit episode, so you are right there

>>82209320
>Every. Single. Episode.
Then it should be easy for you to provide one explicit example. I'll wait.

>>82209249
Weight loss; courtesy of Big Finish!

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Into the trash it goes.

>>82209302
I might upload my collection onto MEGA or something one of these days as much as to back it up as to let other anons grab it. I have a ridiculous method of how I organise the files and metadata that might put some anons off though I guess.

>>82209370
typical antifa tactics, kys shill

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>>82208688
That may have been a meme, however when it was being used, we were babysat by a janitor/mod for sure. There were posts that certainly sounded mod-ish and there was even a public ban for what posting iirc. Something like 100+ posts being removed etc.

>>82209399
Should have posted without the text, would have been a lot funnier.

>>82209283
Never heard of this podcast, is it really spoopy? I am hard to spoop because I am a strong and fearless man.

>>82209420
Better hope no assholes report it, it's how I lost my previous MEGAs.

>>82209298

nvm guys got to the part where it rips off The Beast Below

>>82209428
Hey Wraith, been meaning to ask, does my use of this trip bother you/bring up bad memories or anything? If you want me to drop it, say the word.

I thought it was a nice+amusing little gesture as a kind of continuity with /who/ of years past, tip of the hat to how long you've been here (the joke that you'd have "multiple incarnations/regenerations", so very in-keeping with Doctor Who and all that), and neat in that anyone, not just me, can use the trip since you made the code public, so if I got too annoying or anything people could just drown me out.

But it is your trip and I'm happy to stop using it if it makes you uncomfortable or anything.

I miss K9.
We are in a car.

>>82209601
that's a gay as fuck post

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>>82209641
At least we have Timequake coming! Right?

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>>82209650
>he doesn't like gayposting

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>>82209657

>>82209481
Some of it is really spooky some of it is kind of lame just depends on the episode

>>82209657
What are the chances the movie gets delayed and/or cancelled? What was the last production news heard?

Does anyone else try to consider "The Unquiet Dead" a "Christmas Special", just so that 9 gets a Chrissy special of his own?

>>82209758
Been no word for quite a while, they still insisted on 2017 release date last I heard. There was an anon some days back who had some more detailed info on it, IIRC it's still coming but is probably going to be even more rushed and hacky than expected because of some festival motivation or something.

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>>82209769
Yes

>>82209601
Doesn't bother me at all, I sometimes have to take a second glance at posts. That's about it. It's a public trip as far as I'm concerned, like Krager. It's no longer mine nor do I feel like I have any legacy attached to it. I do feel however you are kinda selling yourself short attaching your posts to my old trip. I think if you wanted to trip with your own "identity" no one could ever complain about the quality of your posting and thus tripping period.

here's my ranking of the season far, buds:
thin ice
smile
the pilot

smile is only a tiny bit of ahead of the pilot, mostly by merit of having a proper plot, but thin ice is a decent step above them both

>>82207480

I just thought it was a joke directed at of all the other ill-placed rousing speeches in Doctor Who.

>>82209923

Nevermind I just heard Bill compliment it too.

Goddamn it this episode is like a small rewrite away from great.

>>82207614
/a/ usually takes the entire season.
And after the season, they spam it forever.

>>82207353

As soon as people forget about Richard Spencer being punched.

So 2021, probably.

>>82210118
Why do people keep acting like that guy is relevant in any way? He keeps getting propped up as some kind of leader when not even /pol/ likes him

>>82209798
That anon seemed to be assuming we'd know a lot more about movie distribution than I know. It sounded like he knew what he was talking about to me (but then I wouldn't really know if he was bullshitting, I guess).

His prediction was that it'll probably come out in November direct-to-DVD (maybe from Disney), except for one day of screenings in a few cinemas around the world (like The Pilot, I guess?).

>>82209842
Cheers, and thanks for clarifying. If it ever does end up bothering you more or anything though, just say the word - I know it's still a public trip now and all that but I at least would stop using it if you ever wanted. Just leaving that option open.

>>82209923
It's funny what speeches do and don't work for people, the speeches in (and the episode in general) of A Good Man Goes To War fell enormously flat to me, but loads of people loved em.

>>82209832
Speaking of Xmas specials, I'm deeply amused that, if you count Series 9 as ending definitively with Hell Bent, and Series 10 starting with Husbands (because Hell Bent is such a strong closer to S9/Clara, Husbands introduces S10 companion of Nardole, and because I like micromanaging what series xmas specials belong to regardless of production order), then Series 10 has the run of Husbands xmas special/Mysterio xmas special/The Pilot has a Christmas section in it/and it+Capaldi will end with a christmas special too. Christmas all around.

>>82210171
>maybe from Disney
I find it hard to believe disney would want anything to do with it, but direct-to-DVD makes the most sense for something this obscure and low budget

>>82209235
In the world of Torchwood, nobody is gay, only two people (Gwen and her husband) are straight, people from the future are omni, and the other 7 billion people are bi.

>make an OTT racist villain
>code him as gay by making him foppish and flamboyant, like he's a 90s Disney Villain

Really gets the brain matter jiggling...

>>82210249
You mean Gwen doesn't fuck that Chink at some point? Fuck this, I'm done with this fandom.


there has to be rule 34 of that somewhere r-right guys

>>82210289
>cis white capitalist racist aristocratic
I wonder why they didn't make him homophobic as well, really get the walnut shelled.

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Since when has the tardis ever displayed a message so juvenile and in english before?

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These any good?

>>82210364
The only flaw in an otherwise perfect episode.

>>82210201
I can't remember his explanation for why Disney, but according to Wikipedia Disney XD/Disney Channel International did the international distribution for the TV show, so I'd guessing the connection has something to do with that.

But I could be wrong. I don't know if Disney XD or Disney Channel International even has anything to do with DVDs, and when I tried looking over all the pages for the 3000 Disney branches on Wikipedia, I just got confused and bored.

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>>82206909

>>82207353
>How many days do you think it will be before both sides calm down
This season the boardies don't seem to stick around very long. Tomorrow will be mostly regulars.

>and Thin Ice settles into its place as a forgettable episode?
Probably never. The rest of the season would have to be outstanding to overshadow Thin Ice.

>>82210372
Haven't listened but I'm guessing not. She is the most boring character to watch, but to listen it must be torture

>>82210478
Did Kate peak in Downtime?

>>82210364
In In the Forest of the Night it spoke like a fucking GPS.

>>82210409
kek

>have you killed anyone?
that scene was the first characterkino of S10
maybe the good times aren't over after all

>>82210721
Yeah that was a great little moment, I liked the way Pearl and Peter acted it.

>>82210364
What was the point of this shot? We already knew there was a creature under the ice and 12 had already said the tardis looked for danger
This shot added literally nothing to the episode besides making it look a little stupid

>>82210619
Hey Tripfagerino, I wanted to discuss this with one of YOUR KIND because for some reason you think everyone archive searches your posts everytime they speak to you so you (try) not to be retarded.

What did you think yo London being 50% black in 1814, slavery and racism apparently being a huge problem despite the literal only incidence of it being by the stereotypical bad hombre and the fact the Doctor uncharacteristically punched him for hurting muh fee fees?

>>82208922
>Whether Chibnall has an American style writer's room isn't set in stone yet (at least he hasn't revealed it to the press and public yet even if it is). If he does, will he include any past writers?
I think the biggest problem for him will be finding the staff writers to fill the room, not attracting lead/consulting/etc. types like Dollard or Mathieson would presumably be.

Hollywood is full of wannabe writers who've got a degree from USC and experience in the industry. They all know a first-rung staff job is their only feasible shot at a way into actually writing episodes, and it's also a way to make money (and benefits, which is a much bigger deal in the US) so they can quit their waiter jobs. Does Cardiff have people like that?

>>82210973
I'd suck a dick to get into a Doctor Who writing room, I'm sure a lot of others would too.

>no shi-
what did pearl mean by this?

>>82210973
I truly have no clue, but Doctor Who is a big show and I imagine plenty of folks in the UK would consider relocating at least temporarily for the opportunity. Not a glamorous job to be just the basic writer in a writer's room but surely there's plenty that'd be keen for it.

In any case, I'm all for Chibnall to try the experiment even if it's a mess and/or fails. Doctor Who needs shake-ups, it needs to regenerate and try new things, as always. If it doesn't work well, they can always revert back to RTD/Moffat style of running the show. Chris wrote all the Broadchurch scripts, he can handle a lot of writing as RTD and Moff could, but I agree with him that it's worth testing out the American method.

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>>82211116
btw thanks for saving the thread

>>82211154
We did it in the name of peace and sanity

What's been in your art queue lately, I think the last thing I remember was the 3 showrunners pic

>>82210856
I don't really care about them casting more black people than is historically accurate, but having the characters say it's how history really was and it's the rest of the movies/tv that are inaccurate is dumb. I don't think the amount of racism portrayed was bad, I doubt most people would give Bill shit as long as she was with the Doctor, unless they were exceptionally prickish like Lord Sutcliffe. The punch felt a little forced, but I don't think it was a bad idea in itself. It could have worked if there was more buildup to it or he said something worse, although obviously there's a limit to how offensive they could make him. So in the episode it's like Sutcliffe walked in and said "I'm racist" and the Doctor punched him. The outrage didn't feel earned.

>>82211116

>RTD
>Smiths and Tylers, soap-ish, high camp, an urge to "go big" which fails more often than not, MILFs
>Moffat (pre S5)
>childhood fears, repeated phrases = spoopy, clever use of time travel, villians only kill because it's in their nature, MILFs

What makes a Chibnall episode a Chibnall episode besides consistently being 4-6/10?

>>82211211
>Cloister !BelloTGpN. - "9 shaking hands with 8 :)"
>Anonymous - "Ace walking into the Nightshade console room to find the seventh Doctor sulking."
>Cloister !WRAITHqJxE - "McCoy, spanking Ace while she says "I'm a good girl""

That's what's in the queue so far

How were bill and the doctor magically untied after the goon got pulled into the ice? The sonic was only being used to attract the fish things, at no point did they even begin to untie themselves

>>82211213
For fucks sake, I didn't want a rational viewpoint, I wanted either /pol/ or tumblr.

>>82207215
just forget it, its clear doctor is cucked. I stopped listening the second he said history is whitewashed

>>82211327
Nightshade console room? Is that the TVM one, or?

I've been consistently enjoying Pearl Mackie so far, but something about her acting in this episode just didn't do it for me. Particularly during the questioning about the Doctor seeing people die/killing people. Seemed more melodramatic than she usually plays it. Though I suppose I don't have many heavily dramatic moments to compare it with.

>>82211213
I don't think the moment necessarily played off the outrage component as much as the classic "do as I say, not as I do" thing, with the Doctor giving the big speech about calmness and reason and serenity before decking him. Like, sure, it plays into the race and privilege ideas the episode is looking at, but the specific punch scene seemed much more centred on the gag of the Doctor being (endearingly) hotheaded in contrast to his pontificating about diplomacy. Not that different from the Doctor insisting he wouldn't steal anything from pie dude, that he was just speaking hypothetically, then having stolen a pie all along - just simple, endearing hypocrite humour, which is fun.

Just my two cents!

>>82211309
I do not see any connective tissue between all his Doctor Who work the way I do with Moffat, Harness, Whithouse, even Dollard, etc. However, he has very clear vision and specific focuses on Broadchurch, and perhaps in Torchwood series 2 which he shadow-showran (been a long time since I watched it).

I think he may be one of those writers that needs a lot of control to really spread their wings. I think Broadchurch (yes even series 2) is fantastic and cohesive and works through specific recurring themes. I assume Doctor Who under his helm will be the same. But his actual Doctor Who material doesn't really seem to betray any specific direction.

>>82211327
Sweet!

>>82211406
I DUNNO I WAS JUST GOING TO GOOGLE IT

someone pls explain

>>82207623
i would say political spectrum shifted. I have read old works from some leftist outlets and modern left would call them all nazis

>>82211033
Sure, but how much TV writing experience do you have, and, if zero, did you come out of a uni program that's designed to prepare you for a job as a staff writer?

>>82211116
>I imagine plenty of folks in the UK would consider relocating
Yeah, but are there even candidates in London to relocate? There just doesn't seem to be an equivalent career stage in the UK TV business to recruit from.

I know the major soaps all have tons of writers on staff with jobs like "assistant script editor" and "B-line story editor" that sound like about the right level; if those are still full of Doctor Who fans like they were when Paul Cornell and Rebecca Levene were helping all their buddies get a leg up, that might be a good source to raid.

Also, someone at the level of, say, Joseph Lidster might be willing to take what's technically a career step backward but not a huge one, in exchange for the opportunity to angle for a possible episode credit or a more senior position in S12.

I don't think it's impossible, just that it's not at all obvious how he could proceed, and interesting to think through the possibilities.

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>>82211463
Here's our answer.

>>82211546
Bless you, I needed a ref really badly actually so that saves me a lot of time

>>82211515
>Yeah, but are there even candidates in London to relocate?

Ah I get what you mean now, not so much a location-staffing issue as just a plain staffing issue outright. Hm. It's new ground for the area, I really hope Chibnall does something interesting with it, regardless of whether it goes smoothly or not. Perhaps he'll hire too few, or too many.

Moffat does not seem the type in the slightest to ever write a book on his showrunning days (he very consistently drills out the "it's about the show, not me" line and I get the feeling he earnestly doesn't like the limelight at all in a way that's alien to more social types like RTD), and I don't believe he had any Ben Cook figure to bounce ideas off consistently in e-mails for years like RTD did, but I hope Chibnall does in some fashion - I'd love to read the scoop on just how his endeavour works out.

bill is a good character

fight me

Thin ice was good
the doctor punching the racist man was a joke that had a setup and punchline
jesus wasn't white
great tier episode desu

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Anyone have a MEGA of the episode or something?

>>82211442
Yeah, that's definitely the point of it but I think it would be funnier if the Doctor had more of a reason to lose it.

>>82211687
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0bOJbTQrM9wOU5DZGxodzZyZFk/view

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Has bill done anything that counts as feisty yet?
Does the racial makeup of thin ice count as a historical inaccuracy?

Rewatching Thin Ice.

In the "have you ever killed anyone" scene, when Capaldi looks off to the side before tries to put on a fake smile and then gives up on that before answering, I really get the feeling that, even though she's asking about how many, he's thinking of one specific person he had to kill hands-on (I don't know who, doesn't matter, just that it's someone specific), not the sheer numbers. Which is great.

But I can't figure out what makes it feel that way, even rewatching the scene specifically trying to figure that out.

Anyone with more TV production or criticism or whatever knowledge who can explain it to me?

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>>82211718
thanks

>>82211213
Oh look, he's reeing now

>>82211687
From combom chat (the first place I look if nobody here posts anything):

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>>82211732
I think so

>>82211213
This. They seem to be doing what they accuse white people of doing, taking their history and accomplishments and saying secretly black people did it all.

>>82210364
and for whom? its alive, it knows no one is there to see it, it could signal the doctor but instead it acts like a regular machine

>>82211614
The Writer's Tale is a unique book, and nobody's ever going to write anything like that again. Just like nobody's ever written anything like William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade no matter how hard they try (even Goldman's own sequel).

Without a structure that compelling, there's no way to dump that much information in a way that's compelling enough to publish and read. But, more important, because RTD was surprised and thrown off-balance by his own structure, he stepped outside his usual boundaries and revealed whatever's most interesting instead of what he wanted to reveal.

I'd still like to see a more standard memoir or DWM-level-inside guidebook or whatever from Chibs, but I doubt we'd get anywhere near the same kind of insights we got from RTD.

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The real problem with this episode isn't the SJW shit, it's the lack of original ideas. It steals from so many other episodes that I'm wondering if the Doctor claiming to be a thief is a meta joke.

>>82211732
>Has bill done anything that counts as feisty yet?
No

>Does the racial makeup of thin ice count as a historical inaccuracy?
I don't think so. Historically, there were black people at the frost fair and the only one we saw who wasn't an extra was a street urchin.

why is bill being such a no fun cunt? I mean must we do this with every new girl? at least 1/4 of the show goes into all this "do you even care that people die" bull

>>82212245
where there black soldiers if this guys rank?>>82211891

>>82212302

She got over a kid's death in 10 minutes, what more could you ask for?

>>82212245
What about >>82211891 ?

>>82212120
Yeah you're right.

I wonder what RTD thinks of Chibnall getting the job, if he has any real thoughts on it.

>>82212302
>no fun
She spends the first part of the episode thoroughly enjoying the fair, it's only when she witnesses a child die that she gets a bit serious.

What the fuck are you even complaining about

>>82212430
He ia trying to find reasons to dislike bill so he can justify his delusions

>>82212430
well doc was right when he said they just came from settlement full of bones were he talked the survives into living with the killers. every sidekick has the ep about realizing mortality of it all and its just tiresome, at this point we are the doctor and not the sidekick

One minor missed opportunity in this episode.

BBC period dramas of the Regency Era are always focused on the aristocracy and/or the working class, so they rarely show us much of the middle classes except while they're at work.

But the Frost Fair was the perfect opportunity to show how they dressed up and tried to look rich and fancy, and how conservative they looked in contrast with the actual rich.

Half the contemporary drawings and writings focus on that contrast, because it was so fascinating to people at the time (because it was so rare for the classes to mix like that).

Pulling that off well (but subtly) in costuming the extras would have made the whole thing feel so much more foreign to the modern day, but at the same time totally real. But instead, we mostly just got stock Regency costumes, with the middle class people all looking like they just got off work at their market stalls or lower-management jobs.

>>82212788
>every sidekick has the ep about realizing mortality of it all
Do they tho? I think they've mostly accepted the amount of death pretty blithely.

>>82212422
>I wonder what RTD thinks of Chibnall getting the job, if he has any real thoughts on it.
Back in 2009, he had to be thinking about who he'd turn it over to if Moffat declined, and Chibs and Ford (the people he'd made de facto showrunners on TW and SJA) must have been the first two people he thought of.

But I have no idea what those thoughts were, or if they've changed in the 8 years since (or if he's still deliberately trying to avoid thinking like that so he can stay on the outside and enjoy Doctor Who as a regular viewer the way he kept talking about wanting to do).

>>82212788
No he wasn't. Seeing some bones is different from seeing a child die. The scene was well-written and well-acted, and felt fresh rather than retreading something that's been done repeatedly.

>>82212788
>>82212894
>>82213053
I think the "coming to terms with it" story was more prevalent in the JNT era than in NuWho, most obviously with Tegan. But the only times that's really worked well are the Big Finish ones with Evelyn and Hex (and Erimem, but that was different), and Hex was sort of easy-mode because he's a medical professional.

RTD instead had his companions become desensitised to death without realising it, and then get called on it by a third party—which worked for Rose and Donna, but it's really a different story, and wouldn't work for most other characters.

I think it was smart to move it to the beginning of the story instead of doing it at the end—raise the issue quickly and then let us think about it in the background through the rest of the episode, instead of making it the denouement and trying to give us an answer in the final scene.

Has anyone posted the new episode of Whovians?

>I think the "coming to terms with it" story was more prevalent in the JNT era than in NuWho, most obviously with Tegan. But the only times that's really worked well are the Big Finish ones with Evelyn and Hex (and Erimem, but that was different), and Hex was sort of easy-mode because he's a medical professional.

Nothing involving the companions in 80s Who worked well. Not even Ace's character growth.

>>82213320
>Not even Ace's character growth.
I disagree with that statement.

name a better new series historical than Thin Ice

I'll wait

>>82213400
The Fires of Pompeii
>captcha: Roman Vancouver

>>82213305
calm down wanderer, it's only 5pm in australia
still 4 hours before it'll be online and ready to rip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akQ-aTCX2yk
bit late for this innit?
Is class even doing well in the US?

>What if we just, like, doomed Greenland
Shortly after this story takes place, a Danish expedition finally found one of the long lost East Greenland settlements and determined that it had been abandoned.

Almost certainly, the last colonists either died out or joined the Thule tribes (whose settlements were a lot more successful) long before then (probably by 1650, the coldest part of the Little Ice Age).

But it's not impossible that (on Doctor Who) they actually survived all the way to 1814, and were only months away from being rediscovered, when they all got eaten by an alien sea monster. Bravo, Doctor and Bill.

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>WOAH HEY THE DALEKS MIGHT BE LITERAL SPACE NAZIS BUT AT LEAST THEY NEVER INSULTED A BLACK PERSON

>>82209522
if you guys bought it legit, I wouldn't have to report it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuo9toGDmf4
1:30
>also, who is that?
well /who/? do you know who that is?

>>82210372
the first one was meh, haven't listened to the second. Silenced was Excellent.

Alright guys. WHAT IF all this SJW and colorness of history is just Master's masterplan ? What if at the end of the season Bill will stand up and tell how SJW is shit and that we don't have to rewrite history to appeal to modern trends. It's like fucking reverse nazi

>>82214176
will literally not happen. Moffy's on record saying he thinks historical revisionism is a moral duty

If London was half black in 1814 why do people still have a problem with them? Is it natural to dislike blacks?
Why was there a sea serpent chained up in the Thames? I doubt it will ever be explained.

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>>82214211
So, we are The Last generation Who knows The truth? Damn it's falling of Rome again

>>82214332
History has always been written by the victors. I'm sincerely doubtful that we know the truth about all the big historical events in the first place

>>82214360
so true. Let's just appreciate Capaldi. He is good as old but wise madman

>>82207284
bullshit the uk made slave trading a crime in 1811

>>82214360
Historical science at least objective now. They take into account all available sources and try to find out what really happened. Sjw science will only write what they believe is right.

>>82212788
fuck that, robots become self aware and murdered their creaters who did nothing to warrant that at all. quite the opposite even and when they tried to defend them self from the high and mighty doctor says "you have to live with the creatures that cold bloodly killed you family's and loved ones"
doctor whos moral fag ideals have pissed me off before but this was a whole new level

>>82213778
The first episode retained 59% of the Doctor Who audience in the 18-49 demo, which is pretty solid.

But the second episode only retained 29%.

The numbers are questionable because there were no NBA playoffs on ESPN, which distort the basic cable ratings to a ridiculous degree. Tonight was the first time that wasn't an issue, and we won't have tonight's numbers until early next week. But it's not looking good for P.Ness.

>>82214470
Relying on sources assumes the sources are accurate and honest.

>>82214470
>Historical science at least objective now.
No, historians have now taken the true historical redpill of realizing that you can never be objective in your analysis of history and the best you can do is be self-aware of your biases, but you'll still be biased.

>They take into account all available sources
Not possible, there are far too many.

>>82213437
>Roman Vancouver
And how did the Romans manage to settle Vancouver, all the way across the ocean?

I'm not saying it's aliens, but what if it's aliens?

I've been binge reading the /who/ wiki for a week and I'm almost out of content. Give me more, I'll take literally anything.

>>82214960
You'd better finish before I delete it.

>>82214960
did you read cat's cletus page? he's very proud of it

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Do we like the new companion?

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>>82215040

Don't do it, anon! I don't to be stuck reading the ED article.

>>82215079

6/10, will probably read again in a month.

>>82215131
yes desu
she's fun

>>82215132
>using a font where I is indistinguishable from l when you have the word "illegal" on the cover of your book
For what purpose?

>>82214960
Edit the wiki to add links to pages that don't exist but that you think could be funny/interesting/especially stupid. The redlinks will trigger people's autism and/or OCD and compel them to write those pages.

>>82215181
it's actually "lllegal"
it's a political piece about how legal aliens contribute to society while illegal ones care more about maintaining their previous culture

Was this the first time "shit" has been said on doctor who? (albeit cut off)
has there ever been an "Oh fu-" or stronger?

>>82215181
Maybe he has some weird speech impediment, so he pronounces it "eeeeeegal", and he's trying to dialect-spell his idiolect.

>>82215131

Show's gunning for the Rose and Martha parallels too hard for her to step out of their shadow. Maybe by the end of the season.

There's absolutely no chance of series 10 being better than 9, is there?

The best we can hope for is a series 3-like amazing second half.

>>82208218

America has

Social liberals = Dems
Classic liberals = Repubs

The Dems are a little center of left socially. The Repubs are right of center.

Both are capitalists.

Greens/Bernie are your socialists; far lefties
Libertarians are your far righties

>>82213437
serious answers only, please

>>82215202

Good idea. My list of tangentially Who related things that aren't on the wiki includes

>The Stranger
>Martha's dead cousin
>Kaldor
>Yellow Kangs
>Loch Ness Monster
>White Noise
>Scissor Sisters
>Islam
>punching racists

I'll get to work.

New thread when?

>>82214332
>So, we are The Last generation Who knows The truth? Damn it's falling of Rome again
How's highschool treating you, anon? Is the homework hard?

>>82215531
At first I appreciated series 10 for going back to basics, series 9 left me kind of cold when I first watched it but I in retrospect I can respect how it was trying to be interesting.

The next story looks like bog-standard haunted house too. Here's hoping the season plot kicks in halfway through and we start getting some eps that aren't standard who.

Feels like Peter Capaldi and Pearl Mackie are carrying the show right now

>>82215620
There's nothing "far left" about Bernie Sanders. He likes to say he's not a social democrat, he's a socialist—but I don't think he even understands the definition he's making. He'd be comfortably on the centrist side of any SocDem party in Europe.

And their Green woman, I forget her name—her entire platform was lifted from the conservative party in the Netherlands, just with the word "green" randomly inserted.

America has barely any left at all, much less a far left.

>>82215531
>There's absolutely no chance of series 10 being better than 9, is there?
So far it's keeping pace with S9, so I'd say there's still a good chance it'll surpass it.

>>82215665
The thread hasn't started to autosage yet, Anon.

>>82215686
>one half decent episode
>2 bad episodes

series 9 was on a perfect streak by episode 3.

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>>82215705
I don't even know where to begin with these opinions.

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>>82215705
>series 9 was on a perfect streak by episode 3.

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I like how the latest episode kinda took the piss out of Kill the Moon by having almost the exact same plot point and resolving it in 10 seconds with no stupidity.

>>82215678

He wants higher taxes for health care and free uni

That's far left, as it's giving power to the state to enforce what it thinks is right for society

Europe is left of center for most of it; left = more state, right = less state

>>82215703
I wasn't talking to you faggot.

>no bajo on Whovians tonight
>one of the guests is a politician who resigned last year
sh-should be good

>>82215834
>>one of the guests is a politician who resigned last year
c-clive palmer?

>>82215857
stephen conray, former minister for broadband, communications, and the digital economy

>>82215908
Was he the one responsible for fucking the NBN up under the libs? Or was it well fucked up before he got the job?

>people-eating house

I can totally get behind that.

>>82215925
I have no idea to be honest, he probably helped fuck it up a little bit before handing it over

>>82215620
>Greens/Bernie are your socialists

They're really, really not.

>>82215780
I don't mean this in a rude way at all, but I truly cannot tell if you're joking or being satirical or not. That's not what those words mean, at all. This is what I meant by saying American definitions were warped.

>>82215929
GOAT horror trope desu.

>>82215929
I prefer house-eating people.

>>82216143
>it's a "there's someone in the walls" episode
mikestoklasa.jpg

>>82216186
Spoiler: It's Gary Busey

>>82207839
zionism

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Which hilarious ABC personality are they going to get to audition as the doctor this week on whovians?

>>82209399
where you download from?

>>82207446
>farage
>racist

German wife, wants us to trade more with the mostly brown commonwealth, supports protecting existing EU migrants.

If he's racist I'm a nazi.

>>82216377
>If he's racist I'm a nazi.
that's correct yes

>>82216332
The only person I can think of that I'd actually like to see do that segment is Shaun Micallef. Otherwise, it's my least favourite part of the episode.

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Another monster that is just lonely. Why can't we just have a villain that is fucking evil?

>>82207421
It's such a lazy pandering. Doctor barely punched anyone, except maybe occasionally Dalek. But the only racist in Victorian London is who gets punched.

>>82216377
Bit weird to out yourself as a nazi like this, anon

>>82216399
>wanting a NWO

>>82216458
I don't see any downsides.

>>82216428
too bad mad as hell is on break, I doubt he's around ABC at all right now
otherwise you're absolutely right, shaun can make anything funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_p37bHdCM4

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>>82216485
Yeah fuck freedom and shit

>>82216485
>Lose of cultural and historic identity
>Replacement of smart lower classes with dumb worker race
>The extinction of the white race and once that happens the asian too as its also mixed
The problem with people like you when you think of NWO is you think of StarTrek, everyone holding hands and boldly going, in reality it will be like every other communist government a well off elite class and a brown/beige lower class

Haven't watched Doctor who since season 8 as my wife and I couldn't find season 9 for free and didn't want to buy it or pirate it.
She's very excited to watch season 10 but this whole "Whitewashing" thing has completely turned me off

What do?

>>82216653
It's one line, anon.

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>>82216653
The whole episode is about how the white man is evil, even though she (the writer) is white, and her country and family.

Thin Ice received 3.76 million viewers last night.

Redpill me on the Osterhagen key.

>>82216767
is that good?
Is this show finally going to be cancelled?
Of course not, because at the end of the series we have a new doctor which will reinvigorate viewers again who got bored with this one.

When will people realise it's not the doctor that is boring is the shitty writers and the shitty raccoon looking companions

>>82216767
is this considered good or bad in bongland?

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>>82216947
>>82216947

>>82216960
>>82216961
Oh for fuck's sake

>>82216960
Use this one, the earlier one

>>82216961
Nobody use this one.

We already had the talk about thread splitting. It's okay, just a mistake here. Just nobody use the second thread.

>>82211732
That Horse Whiny was definitely a comical sound effect.

>>82215643
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/The_Stranger

If anyone remembers better than me, or has pics, go fix it.

>>82209842
>>82215703
>>82215808
That wasn't "me", aka the "main" neo-Cloister btw edge_lord. After speaking with Wraith today and thinking on what he said, I'm gonna stop using the neo-Cloister trip, it's been fun but I used it to the point where it was starting to have an identity of its own. Since it's a public trip that can get "hijacked" and displaced super easily, like above. Nothing wrong with that, that's the nature of public trips, but I think I posted under it too much to really jive with that anymore. When I trip, I'll just go under Neo !CLSTRw9MrU now. The CLSTR can serve as "Cloister" enough. Cheers.

>>82216960
>>82216961
>posted at the exact same time
>>82216961 must have really bad luck aslo his thread was created before the other

>>82216653
>What do?
Divorce your wife so she still has time to find someone new to settle down with.