Rick And Morty’ Is Incredibly Depressing And Doesn’t Deserve

>>82184993
I don't see why being depressing is a bad thing but Calarts Family Guy can fuck right off to /co/

>>82184993
>The television show proclaims the insignificance of all our lives, reveling in existential pessimism. Why do viewers and critics love it so much?

that's retarded though

>>82184993

Please tweet this to Harmon.

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Those fucking comments

>People shouldn't like pessimistic entertainment

This is what Disney has done to us

>>82185662
>Trollolol
Jesus Christ, fucking Reddit

>>82185727
Honestly I love it because I'm spiteful. It makes me angry that some people get to live with emotional safety nets like religion, stupidity and ignorance, and I want them to be miserable.

>>82184993
>It doesn't adhere to the wholly unrealistic conventions of learn-a-lesson sitcoms which I've been conditioned to love like Linus clutching a comfort blanket so that means it's bad!

Wow, really got my noggin throbbin'. The guy's main complaint is that the show tells the viewers that life is meaningless and he wonders why it's popular while completely missing the fact that that's part of the reason it's so popular. This generation has been spoon fed a diet of sitcoms that promise that all conflicts are eventually wrapped up with a digestible lesson that we can walk away from as better people and that's just not true. That's the big lie we're all sick of. It's not absurdist to point that out; it's realist.

>>82184993
That headline is a bit obnoxious but the article is good.

>>82185662
Jesus christ

>>82185853
>This generation has been spoon fed a diet of sitcoms that promise that all conflicts are eventually wrapped up with a digestible lesson that we can walk away from as better people
Your 2005 talking point is a little outdated. We have seen nothing but subversion of nuclear family dynamics and expected outcomes.

>>82185887
Literally a /pol/ tard talking point with no basis in reality. Kill yourself moron.

>>82185788
4chan is a Christian website

Kindly escort yourself back to atheist.org aka reddit

>>82184993
>binge watches an entire show he doesn't like

i bet this guy critically reviews dramas for the comedic value. i wish i could get paid for writing bullshit

>>82185931
I honestly believe you are the same person that goes in every single fucking thread and starts shouting /pol/ at people with absolutely no basis or connection to the conversation. In the last 10 years the majority of television shows have been all about subverting the expected sitcom family shows and now that's tired and old just like the archetypal sitcomes of the 1990s. How is that /pol/? I swear to fuck I hope you have a miserable life.

>>82185937

>Shackling yourself to a religion made by slaves

'no'

>>82184993
>incredibly depressing
would be if it wasnt forced drama popping up sporadically in an episode
>doesnt deserve popularity
it does for being accessible and occasionally funny. i dont like it that much, but i see why it does well. and i dont see how a depressing show shouldnt be popular

Wait, there are people who find the shoehorned sad scenes depressing instead of stupid?

>>82185937
>4chan is Christian website
>t. R/the Donald newfag

>>82184993
Fuck off Justin.

>>82186060
It depends. If you aren't an atheist and actually have a coherent worldview where life has meaning, you will see it as stupid. If you are an atheist who spends his time trying to forget how hollow / meaningless his worldview is, you'll find it depressing to be reminded.

Its good show but have to agree with it being shallow. You pretty much forget everything after you had your laughs, and the jokes work only once, so no re-watch value. Its comedy of the youtube age. Being popular means nothing these days, and you dont need to do or be anything to deserve it.

>>82185937
4chan is probably what sparked the rise of Atheism. Newfags won't remember but years ago it was known as the edgy atheist site by normies

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>>82184993
LEH DUDE I AM DRUNK AND A DOUCHE HA HA HA HA

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>>82185662
>all those numale avatar photos

>>82184993
It's nowhere near as good as Futurama and doesn't give me comfy feels.

>>82185937

>website plastered from board to board with Sin
>Christian website

Yeah, no.

If you're Christian, you shouldn't be coming here.

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I AM A DRUNK ASS AND DEEP LMAO

>>82186167
Coherent isn't the right word. If you think your life as a lump of organic matter has meaning, then you're just an idiot and your world view is probably going to be anything but coherent.

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>>82184993
All reviewers should be executed.

>>82186261
>If you're Christian, you shouldn't be coming here.

So 4chan is a jewish image board

>>82186320
that's why I said

>if you AREN'T an atheist

>lacks narrative depth
It's a fucking cartoon
>doesn't deserve its popularity
What does that even mean? Nothing deserves anything. "Deserve" is an abstract concept that has no bearing on reality

>>82186331
Just as Moot planned

>>82186423
But you deserve rape

It's a very fair write up.

I enjoy Reddit and Memey, I think the action sequences are very well animated and almost every episode has a well earned joke. But it fails when it tries to pull a Simpsons or Futurama and tug at your heartstrings.

Rick is a giant insane asshole who will always pull out a Trump card at the last minute of the episode, he's incapable of learning a lesson. Morty was once a good protagonist but now has pretty much turned into the Meg Griffin of the show always destined to get crapped on.

Only character who's even mildly relatable is Summer at this point. Only a matter of time before she becomes a bitch because "LOL everyone is either a terrible person or autistic in the mind of Dan Harmon."

>>82186320
*tips*

>>82184993
This was a good analysis that didn't boil down to 'le plebbit'

>>82186423
"Deserve" falls under the cardinal virtue of Justice, which is giving others what they are due. What they are due is a matter of reason and the natural law.

Read Aristotle plen

>>82186485
saying someone or something deserves something is no different than being a religious cook

>>82186536
>that didn't boil down to 'le plebbit'

It did though

>everything needs to be my way or i'm gonna be pissed

you faggots are unbelievable

>>82186563
Again, this is all man-made abstract Mumbo jumbo that has no bearing on reality unless people decide to act upon it. It's no different than someone suicide bombing because they think they will get 72 virgins. Your virtues are cute and all but they are ideas created by people and have nothing to do with nature or reality

>>82186655
Everything should be as good as possible. Fucks like you are the reason why we are getting half assed movies, shows, games, cartoons, whatever. Because your low standards allow for those atrocities to be made.

Fucking plebs should be purged.

of course I agree

the federalist is usually a very unbiased source of information

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>thefederalist
Literally who?

>>82186563
>read this Greek faggot who literally believed in virtue ethics and Zeus
>not the thousands of years of philosophers who demolished him

>>82186748
if you really feel that way shouldn't you be in church right now? Or feeding kids in Africa or something?

>>82186714
This is because you think that the first causes in nature are material, whereas in reality: mind precedes matter, and mind moves all things towards their purpose / end. The Supreme Intellect that is the beginning and end of all things.

Pls read Plato / Aristotle and stop thinking your eliminative materialism is profound because it is actually very stupid and destructive (to yourself and society).

>>82186748
>Everything should be as good as possible

Good is subjective
>everything should be what i think is good

Fuck off

>>82186798
Descartes, Hume, Kant? They're super gay m8

>>82186871

>virgins and losers whose only accomplishments were in the sciences and not pushing society forward as a whole

no one cares or remembers these fags except for give her le dick meme

>>82185887
>We have seen nothing but subversion of nuclear family dynamics and expected outcomes.

Yeah, now that the people who were spoonfed a diet of overly-optimistic sitcoms are the ones writing the TV shows, because they want to subvert the things they came to expect from the things they had growing up. When people say "this generation" they're talking about the people in their 20s and 30s who are now starting to take the role of entertainment creators. People who grew up in the 80s and 90s (hell, even the early 00's kept doing the "positive family sitcom" thing for a while). He's not talking about 15 year olds who have been raised on the most recent media.

he's right about the multiple universes thing. not a huge flaw and I like the show but still

>>82186930
exactly

Aristotle is still on his throne. Nobody has dethroned him.

>>82186956
>Aristotle

Another """"""philosopher"""""" whose influential because other people say he's influential.

>>82186829
>mind precedes matter, and mind moves all things towards their purpose / end.
Most of what we know for sure about the universe contradicts this
>The Supreme Intellect that is the beginning and end of all things.
Source?
>Pls read Plato / Aristotle
Do you unironically think that some fags who lived 3000 years ago understood the universe better than the billions of people who have come after them? They were good sophists for their time
>stop thinking your eliminative materialism is profound
I don't think it's profound, it's just reality. Stop projecting.
>it is actually very stupid and destructive (to yourself and society).
I guess reality is stupid. This way of thinking is only destructive if you allow it to be. You seem like you're desperate to find meaning/purpose because you're incredibly weak and scared of degeneracy.

>>82187087
>implying any philosopher is influential

It's all bullshit.

>>82187087
Nah its more like its because he's just one of the first.
It's like calling the guy who invented fire the most important scientist even though he was a retarded caveman who worshipped the sun

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>>82187231
>It's like calling the guy who invented fire the most important scientist even though he was a retarded caveman who worshipped the sun

>invented fire

m8

>>82187298
Oh yeah sorry, I forgot Prometheus stole it from Zeus
The fuck out of here retard

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>>82187360

>it's an anon gets defensive because he doesn't know the difference between inventing and discovering episode

>>82184993
>thefederalist.com
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>82185662
This is cringe thread material.

Family Guy is better

>>82187201
>Most of what we know for sure about the universe contradicts this

Increasing knowledge of what is secondary still remains knowledge of what is secondary. Material science has advanced over the last few centuries, but matter is still secondary to mind.

>Source?

"Since there were three kinds of substance, two of them physical and one unmovable, regarding the latter we must assert that it is necessary that there should be an eternal unmovable substance.

...

It is clear then from what has been said that there is a substance which is eternal and unmovable and separate from sensible things. It has been shown also that this substance cannot have any magnitude, but is without parts and indivisible (for it produces movement through infinite time, but nothing finite has infinite power; and, while every magnitude is either infinite or finite, it cannot, for the above reason, have finite magnitude, and it cannot have infinite magnitude because there is no infinite magnitude at all). But it has also been shown that it is impassive and unalterable; for all the other changes are posterior to change of place.
It is clear then from what has been said that there is a substance which is eternal and unmovable and separate from sensible things. It has been shown also that this substance cannot have any magnitude, but is without parts and indivisible (for it produces movement through infinite time, but nothing finite has infinite power; and, while every magnitude is either infinite or finite, it cannot, for the above reason, have finite magnitude, and it cannot have infinite magnitude because there is no infinite magnitude at all). But it has also been shown that it is impassive and unalterable; for all the other changes are posterior to change of place.

http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/metaphysics.12.xii.html

It's not depressing, it's just post-modern. With a ton of popular culture thrown in to make it accessible. I have to say that it's certainly ironic how they try to throw in some sort of moral lessons into it all, when clearly that's not part of the doctrine. I guess it makes it easier to digest though, and on second thought it might make sense if the moral lessons are actually meant to mean absolutely nothing.

>>82187821
There couldn't be reddit-er show.

>>82185662
reddit incarnates

Is it possible that KOH is A++ for the same reason that GH is B? So it won't work on anything higher in rank like VS?

>>82184993
I don't like what I've seen of the show, but this isn't why. I mean I agree that it's incredibly repetitive and there are no stakes narratively, but I don't see why the pessimism is inherently bad or why this article needed a stupid clickbait title. I also don't see how those problems are particularly unique to Rick and Morty as far as these kinds of cartoons go.

It sounds like something the kind of person who worships Disney production line movies for making them feel good about themselves would say.

As for its popularity, I don't know if anything "deserves" to be popular. But I do know there are a lot of people like Dan Harmon - mildly depressed atheists who manage to both hate themselves and think they're better than everyone.

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>tfw they'll never be shows like Duckman again

>>82184993
WUB A LUB UH DUB A DUB DUB!

>>82185662
All those profiles scream Reddit nu-male.

>>82185662
>if you dislike something popular, you are completely wrong

cancer fanbase, shit like that killed new samurai jack aswell

>>82187855
Are you trolling, or what?

>>82190346
How was new Jack killed?

>>82190450
It got a pretty strong start, then it started getting worse and worse, to the point even casual fans could see glaring mistakes.

Somehow even then if you rated this show less than 8/10 you were labeled as a contrarian, troll or just shitposter. Insufferable circle jerking on /co/ made me drop that board completely, you either love garbage or you are pretending to be a hater :^)

>>82190622
So is it worth watching? I was going to wait until it was over and binge it but if it sucks, why bother?

>>82190723
Just wait, so far it got 3 pretty good and 3 pretty shitty episodes, it may get better.

>>82185937
>4chan, a site created for discussion of Chinese Cartoons that's half porn boards, is a Christian website

What's funny is that someone out there actually believes this

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>>82184993
>By Philip Bunn
>Philip is a senior political philosophy student at Patrick Henry College in Purcellville, VA, and will begin graduate study at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in the fall
>Patrick Henry College

>>82185937
>dead kike on a stick

>>82184993
Stop shilling ur shitty article nigger

Can someone explain to me how this shit got so popular in the first place? I tried watching it and it was so painful I couldn't even finish one episode.

>>82185662
>Rick and Morty
>"Depth"
These "people" are worse than Family Guy fans.

>>82191352
Have you seen the one where Rick becomes a pickle? He's "pickle Rick". It's pretty stellar, give it another shot if you still don't like it maybe the show is just over your head.

>>82185662
Looks like 4chan honestly

but then again I don't browse reddit so i don't know how they speak

>>82184993
the first season was great bar the finale
and a little less than half of s2 was good.
the first ep of s3 was okay, which doesn't bode well as it will probably go downhill from here

>>82190346
But that's not the problem, the guy is disliking it for the most stupid of reasons.

If you dislike something popular with good, well-explained reasons, you can usually get even people who disagree with you to understand where you're coming from.

I was surprised to see some people here apparently really disliking this show.

Then I remembered that it takes a piss on religion every now and then, and that this place is full of /pol/tards.

Get fucked, christcucks. Rind and Morty is fun, probably the most fun I've had binge-watching a show in recent memory. And the people calling it shallow either don't understand it or expect a full-length lecture on every new concept introduced on a cartoon comedy.

get schwifty bruh!

>>82193765
Yes fellow atheist brother Hella epic you tell those fucking christ cucks

>>82193900
Sorry that a cartoon doesn't take your jewish fairy tales too seriously.

>watch pilot
>it involves an alcoholic grandfather telling his underage granson to put pinneaples up in his ass
dropped. It's not offensive, it doesn't push any boundaries. It's just unfunny

I honestly just don't find anything about the show to be funny, ever joke or whatever just feels forced to me

>>82184993
>It further encourages the viewer to think of each episode independently, rather than as part of a developing arc
it's a cartoon comedy, it doesn't need ongoing arcs. look at the simpsons or south park or probably just most adult cartoons that exist
>While the inconsistent story, distracting do-overs, and meaningless choices are internally consistent with characters that find themselves in a chaotic universe and react accordingly, they do not appeal to a viewer who desires meaningful choices and significant character development
why do you want those things from a comedy? they seem like they would just weigh the show down

>>82185727
you are fucking deluded into talking like a south park character. its not depressing because its nihilistic and pessimistic, its depressing because it is a glut of humor and storytelling. its a sign of the times that such a shitty show with such shitty post-ironic 'humor' is given so much attention. white guys are that fucking stupid these days.