Why was Aragorn crowned king? the people of Gondor don't

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>>82147887
Because he was of a superior race whose purpose was to rule over common men. Look it up.

>>82147887
renewed shall be the blade that is broken
the crownless again, shall be king

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What happened to all the ork refugees?
Did Aragorn genocide them, even the baby Orks?

>>82147927
So the people of Gondor are just a bunch of cucks who let men of another race rule over them?

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>>82147934

cucked shall be the cock that is broken
the BBC again, shall be king

>>82147887
He was a confirmed descendant of Isildur - the last King of Gondor. He is of the royal master race. He proved his loyalty to Gondor and his leadership skills in multiple battles on a completely voluntary basis.

>>82148075
>He was a confirmed descendant of Isildur

So? would you crown a descendant of Washington king just because of his ancestry? also Aragorn might have been a good military leader, but he doesn't know anything about ruling. He's a ranger.

And he only won because of some deux ex machina spooky ghosts, not because of any superior strategy. Which was Elrond's idea.

>>82148031
kys

>>82147998
>"They were increased in body and mind by Eönwë, a Gandalf-level being, at the end of the War of Wrath, and granted a lifespan of an average 200 years, greatly increased from their ancestors' lifespan of 90 years."
Literally a superior being. The cucks of Gondor did the right thing.

>>82148250
Did they let him breed their wives as well? More like Cuckdor

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>>82148309
>Did they let him breed their wives as well?
I don't think that would be good, because there would be many heirs for Aragorn. It would possibly start a civil war. And Aragorn, a numenorian, having a son with Arwen, an elf, would make the best heir. Aragorn probably killed all of his bastards he had with common mortal women. No need to start a civil war here...

>>82148127
and that's why the movies a shit. it was all perfectly logical in the books.

>>82148127
Washington wasn't a king you fucking retard

>>82148127
>So? would you crown a descendant of Washington king just because of his ancestry?

No, because the US isn't a hereditary monarchy. You fucking idiot.

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>>82148490
>it was all perfectly logical in the books.

Explain it then.

>>82148517
Neither is Gondor.

>>82148127
Aragorn is basically a demi-god. It would be stupid to not crown him and crown some mere mortal instead.

>>82148530
>Neither is Gondor.

Yes it is. Denethor wasn't actually a king, he was a Steward. Aragorn was a direct descendant of Isildur and therefore had rightful claim to the throne.

>>82148606
>Denethor wasn't actually a king, he was a Steward.

That's what I'm saying. Gondor gave up on kings when Isildur's descendants decided to become rangers in bumfuck nowhere. Faramir should have been declared the new Steward.

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>>82148606
Also Gandalf was there to crown him. Who's going to interrupt him and get BTFO by his potent magic?

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>>82147887
>ywn execute the Gondorian Royal Family and establish glorious socialism through proletarian revolution

>Who are you?
>I'm your king.
>What gives you the right, mate?
>I got the Rohiram and an army of ghosts to defend your city against an unstoppable hoard of orcs, and I was in the front lines during the battle. Also I'm the rightful heir to the throne and I was given the crown by Gandalf, a demigod who helped create the world just by singing.
>Well I didn't vote for you.

>>82148530
If you're going to argue about this shit then you need to come up with something better than "a kingdom wasn't a kingdom". Because you're just boring.

>kings
>elected

There has never been an Elected king EVER in the history of the entire universe. Ever.

>>82148655
Why did Gandalf crown him? who made Gandalf the official crowner?

>>82148741
If it was a kingdom why did it have a Steward instead of a King? checkmate.

>>82148745
>Earthfats don't elect their kings

The other planets are laughing at you

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>>82148699
>"The Ranger will not divide us!"
>"Not my King!"
>pic related happens

>>82148745
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_election

>>82147980
They were slain. The orc refugees tax policies were too disorganized.

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>>82148745
yes there have been.

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>>82148816
>autistically beheads a messenger

Aragorn should have gone to prison for war crimes.

>>82147887
>monarchy
>picked on how fit they are to rule

I don't think you understand how this works

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvKIWjnEPNY

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>>82148750
>Why did Gandalf crown him? who made Gandalf the official crowner?

>>82147887
>I don't know how monarchy works

>>82148127
Fuck u dummy

>>82148651
>Gondor gave up on kings
Then why did they crown Aragorn king, you stupid mong?

>I set canon! Not the books!

>>82148651
They gave up on kings because they thought Isildur's line had died out and the Dunedain (the mythical ruling class of men) had all but been wiped out. Aragorn was only a handful of them left, and they all mostly kept a low profile since Sauron would kill them in a heartbeat if he ever caught wind of them.

>>82148651
>Gondor gave up on kings

Gondor's line of kings died out. Aragorn comes from the Arnorian line.

>>82147998
>cuck

XD upvote!

>>82148651
Faramir is the new steward. He's still subservient to the king though. Steward is like VP, he just handles shit in the Kings absence, which just happened to be like 500 years in this case.

>>82148750
Gandalf is a neigh-all powerful direct servant of Eru (read, God). He can make himself official crowner if he wanted, who the fuck could stop him?

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>>82148696
Feels bad man

Have you noticed how there are no fields or crops outside Minas Tirith? I bet the proletariat are starving while the royal family feast on cherry tomatoes imported from the Shire.

>tfw Saruman's only crime was his desire to liberate the races of Middle Earth from tyrannical rule and establish equal treatment for all races, while at the same time increasing literacy and defeating hunger through the advancement of industry

>>82148127
Epic

>>82149067
>5000 years

Ftfy

>>82147887
>it's a "underage contarian tries his hardest to act hard and talk shit about something he doesn't know anything about in hopes of fitting it" episode

yawn

>>82148884
>Autistically
>He brings them the mithril shirt then carefully starts judging their reactions
He was as much as spy as a messanger.
Protip: messengers know better than to talk so much shit.

>>82149031
They didn't give up on kings. The steward was a caretaker in service to the crown. The moment a legitemate heir showed up with the paperwork to prove it the steward would be forced to step down.

>>82149171
in* even

>>82147887
>Why was Aragorn crowned king?

Maybe it's a largely honorary position with no real power, like the Queen of England or President of the United States.

>>82149222
his power is absolute and god given

>>82149099
>who the fuck could stop him?
I guess Gandalf could be assasinated? I'm not sure. In a 1v1 battle he would most definitely kill anyone in Gondor. I guess the best way would be to assasinate Aragorn and his heir/s after Gandalf left Middle-Earth.

>>82149171
Threads on /tv/ only take off if you add some ridiculous troll post in the OP. This board sucks.

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>>82149171
>it's a "dumb newfag doesn't recognize an obvious bait" episode

>>82149099
>neigh-all powerful
You're right about his job title, but he's basically among the weakest demi-gods (with Sauron being about the strongest)

Protip: comparing the Valar and Maiar to gods and demi-gods is a lot more apt than the usual angel comparison given that they have their own personalities, desires, domains of control, and they marry.

>>82149127

>Hey, our equivalent of Satan's right hand man is coming back to kill us all, we should probably just roll with it, right?
>And I totally, ABSOLUTELY am not doing this just to claim the Ring for myself, why do you ask?
>Kill all the trees I have despite me knowing full well their sentient caretakers still exist and might get royally pissed
>oh no, they got royally pissed and fucked my shit right up!
>Guess I'll head for the Shire and set up a dictatorship there, not like the main hero will come back to his hometown and stop me
>And i'll bring that little shit wormtounge too, no way the constant abuse I throw at him will backfire in any way

Saruman got everything he deserved

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>>82147887
Wait, so who why didn't the Shire have a king? WAS there a king of the Shire? What was his tax policy?

You will never lead a revolution against the aristocracy, guillotine Aragorn and his Elf witch and found the Glorious Republic of Gondor

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>>82149255
>>82149171
>/v/irgin brainlets too stupid to appreciate a philosophical discussion concerning the nature of ruling

>>82148075
Isildur wasnt really the last King of Gondor but the movie wanted to save some more exposition i guess, the last King was challenged by the Witch King and never heard from again

>>82149277
I was under the impression the wizards still have thier full power but are forbidden from using them by command of Eru

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>>82149333
I got you, f a m

The chief official of the Shire was the Mayor of Michel Delving. Elected every seven years at the "Free Fair" held on the White Downs in the Westfarthing, the Mayor was the Postmaster and First Shirriff of the Shire.

The Hobbits of the Shire generally obeyed the Rules, that is, the ancient laws of the North Kingdom, and there was no real need to enforce them; all Hobbits voluntarily obeyed them as they were both ancient and just. Hobbits had lawyers, but these dealt mostly with wills and such matters; there is no record of a formal court system, still less of criminal prosecutions or punishments. Frodo stated that in the Shire no Hobbit had ever been known intentionally to kill another Hobbit. Sméagol's wicked behaviour, including his murder of Déagol (which occurred outside the Shire), led Frodo to doubt that Sméagol was a hobbit at all. Of course, it is probable that Sméagol's treachery was the result of the Ring's influence; the books make it clear that the Ring could tempt individuals to perform terrible acts.

At the resumption of the throne by King Elessar, the Shire again became part of the restored Kingdom of Arnor. Elessar permitted the Hobbits to keep their own laws and customs. (The office of Thain was also left undisturbed, though now, as intended, subject to and local steadholder of the King of Arnor.) In 1427, Elessar issued an edict prohibiting Men from entering the Shire and declaring it a Free Land under the protection of Arnor.

>>82148530
>Explain it then.
spooky ghosts were just spooky ghosts, not an invincible army of instant death. they did fuck all and aragorn's strategy was actually superior.

also he does some healer shit and literally everyone in gondor ends up thinking he's the most amazing thing ever.

>>82149333
Checked.

The shire wasn't really a concern of men or elves, just a backwater taking up space on the map. That's why the ring went undiscovered for so long.

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>>82149333
The Hobbits live a superior life of glorious Anarcho-syndicalism in which they themselves own the means of production and don't submit to any higher authority who seeks to take advantage of them. This is compouinded by Samwise's famous declarations like "share the load" and "I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you".

>>82149333
Technically the Shire did acknowledge the rule of the king when it was established but since hobbits seemed like such an inconsequential race, they were pretty much left up to their own devices.

>>82149375
There might be something like that in place but nevertheless, so-called "wizards" are just a group of Maia. Mithrandir/Galdalf didn't even want to join because he was a very weak Maiar and afraid of Sauron, which is why he was given one of the three elven rings.

I've never checked the movies to see if you can spot it on his finger or not.

>>82149375
>I was under the impression the wizards still have thier full power but are forbidden from using them by command of Eru
Gandalf's rule was to not directly confront Sauron, but he was allowed to help the people of Middle-Earth in any other way. Still, Gandalf was a prick, so he made a visit to Dol Guldur to "gather intelligence" to cover up the fact that he tried to "accidentally" take out Sauron.

>>82149415
That's true but Gandalf also had the Shire secretly guarded and watched by the Rangers after Bilbo returned with the Ring.

>>82147887
>king
>election
Uhhhhh ok bub

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>>82147887
>get crowned
>start singing

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>>82148866
>thinks humans are smart enough to rule themselves
>calling others brainlets

>>82148745
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth did it all the time.

>>82149573
And look how they turned out.

>>82149595
>And look how they turned out.

Saving Europe from the Muslim hordes?

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>>82149528
>thinks kings/rulers aren't humans
What did he mean by this?

>>82149527
Singing is the highest form of magic in the setting. Its literally how god created the world.

In the story of Barren and Luthien, Luthien travels to Morgoth's citadel and defeats Sauron in a epic rap battle along the way.

I am only embellishing slightly about that last part.

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>>82149642
>doesnt realise the difference between individuals and the masses

>>82149443
wtf I'm a leftist now

>>82149688
He left out the part where hobbits have extremely strong traditional values and are highly judgemental about anyone who's even a little bit "weird".

Leftists hate hobbits.

>>82148651
>Gondor gave up on kings
No they didn't you ignorant cunt. Boromir asks his father why they don't take the title of "king" since it had been so long since the last king sat in the throne.
Denethor blows him the fuck out by saying ten thousand years wouldn't be long enough to claim the throne.
The kings of Gondor and Arnor ruled by a literal divine mandate.

>>82149727
What a bunch of cucks

>>82147998
Aragorn's people built Gondor and the other cities, he has more rights to them then those lowly humans living there

>>82149833
Y'know, Aragorn IS human.

Men of Numenor live a long time because they're descended from a half-elf, but this isn't like a D&D half-elf.
A LotR Half-elf is a violation of nature that is forced to choose to become one race or the other.

Elrond is a half-elf who chose to become an elf. His brother (I think) chose to become a man, but had hugely extended life which he passed on the his descendants.

>>82149722
wtf I wanna live in the shire now

>>82150061
The Shire is quite literally the comfiest place in all of fiction.

>>82150073
>not Hogwarts

Come on now.

>>82147980
Why does this pic mentally remind me of the smell if 100°f baby diapers?

>>82147887
>Why was Aragorn crowned king?
Because the movie is named "The Return of the King". d'oh

>>82150084
Yeah, Hogwarts. Where some random hazard might liquefy all the bones in your body, with the mild consolation of "Don't worry about the excruciating pain, because we can fix you easily!"

>>82150143
>being that much of a boring coward

Welcome to Hufflepuff

>>82150181
>implying Hufflepuff didn't have the hottest sloots

>>82150203
It didn't, you just like chubby brainlets

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>>82150084
Only good thing going for Hogwarts is that it has magic. If I could have that in the Shire I would be all set up. Don't really like a cold dark castle surrounded by monsters. Also, that halfling weed must be potent as fuck!

>>82150073
>ywn live in a comfy hobbit hole
>spending your days smoking your pipe and relaxing
>having seven different meals every day
I shouldn't be wishing to be a manlet but here I am.

>>82148031
Sauron. Can you keep an eye on my cat for the weekend?

>>82150336
heh

>>82150084
Hogwarts is many things but comfy isn't one of them

>>82150357
Hogwarts would be comfy as long as you arent attending during the same years as Harry and his friends.

spooky ghosts in the movie
>rape everything

spooky ghosts in the book
>spook the pirates so that Aragorn can take their ships and get to Gondor ASAP
>releases them as soon as he gets the boats

>>82148127
>deux ex machina spooky ghosts

I wish I just kept my mouth shut about the deus ex machina in RotK. Now it's a major quibble point in LotR threads.

>>82150357
Maybe if you're a cowardly faggot who hates adventure and anything out of the ordinary. Go live in a cubicle, mundane scum.

>>82149250
Do you played battle for middle earth?
That's a really conservative display of the power level Gandalf has.

>>82150440
you did god's work anon

>>82149250
Why the fuck would you assasinate the two guys that basically won the war for you

>>82150442
>I don't know what comfy means

>>82150181
Nigger, you said its COMFY! I don't care how much you like the setting: "Comfy" and "Extremely dangerous" are fucking contradictions.

>>82150398
>Hogwarts would be comfy as long as you arent attending during the same years as Harry and his friends.
It would be comfy to attend with them. I would polyjuice my pet to be Hermione after each day of school. Comfy as fuck.

>>82150499
You should ask Roman Emperors that.

>>82150503
It's not extremely dangerous through unless you go there in Harry's time, and in this case the Shire was extremely dangerous during LOTR as well with Saruman fucking up the place.

>>82147887
>the movie just has him crowned king all of a sudden.
Did you even watch the movie?
>without any election or anything.
Do you evrn know how kings work?
>was tolkien a hack
No, more like you're an idiot, or a troll, maybe a troll, nice bait. 10/10

>>82150499
>Why the fuck would you assasinate the two guys that basically won the war for you
Because Aragorn grabbed Arwen by pussy! I'm with Eowyn! Eowyn for Queen. She killed the Witch King. She ain't no man. My freedom!

>>82148651
You can go back to Monarchy, Britain went from monarchy to hereditary Lord protector (Steward like with more regicide), to sweeping the whole thing under the rug and inviting the king back. France spent most of the 19th century deciding whether to be a republic, kingdom or empire.

>>82150442
I've always wanted to work in a cubicle at a desk job.
Like whenever a movie or show has the character go to their job in a office cubicle and portray it as terrible and boring, I was just thinking it looks like a nice comfy job to go in for.

>>82150640
First thing I thought was the Matrix. Just bluepill me.

What was Sauron's tax policy?

>>82150711
Give everything to him and you might not die.

>>82147887
Aragorn was a Rohan puppet.

Gondor was exhausted by the war with Mordor while most of Rohan was unscathed being a more nomadic civilization. They could draw upon 10000s of cavalry from across their Kingdom despite losing key points in the war with Isengard.

There was no "muh nationalism" back then, the people of Gondor knew some form of tyranny was inevitable and didn't care who it was. Aragorn knew this hence all the "Let us together rebuild this world… that we may share in the days of peace." stuff, he is basically saying "I will be slightly less repressive than normal to prove there is no point rebelling and replacing me with a regime that likely won't be".

Rohan knows a foreign king like Aragorn is weak and that he depends on Rohan for power, his balls will be in their vice grip, so to speak. They can ensure Rohan will receive a large share of the rich volcanic soils left behind by Mordor and count on Gondor's support against Wainrider raids and meddling by western Kingdoms.

They could have killed Faramir but that would have demonstated belligerence towards Gondor and its elite and caused rebellion, so they married him to Eowyn. In doing so they ensured that the heirs of Faramir could be used by Rohan as an excuse to oust Aragorn or his descendents, they also placated Faramir a little, though I am sure deep down he still craved his rightful position, it changed the equation a little.

In time it is possible that a more unified Rohan-Gondor regime might arise. Either when Faramir or his heirs take over or personal union between the Faramir and Aragorn lines. It is possible that the power balance might shift and Rohan will lose political sway over Gondor.

>>82150711
Take everything, redistribute it evenly among the peoples.

>>82150084
>trolls randomly breaking in
>spider forest outside
>tree that fucks people up
>slytherin
>death eaters literally working at the school
>giant snake in the basement


eh

>>82150711
Sauron was that boss that micromanaged everything. Like Bill Lumbergh in evil armor.

>>82150765
You can avoid all of those if you're not a retard. And I meant not during Harry's time (the Shire was also fucked during LOTR though they don't show it in the movies).

>>82147980
Orcs, you cocksucking 40kid. Go back to your nerd nest.

>>82150553
>It's not extremely dangerous through unless you go there in Harry's time
No, the hazards of Hogwarts are non-stop. They're just played up for comedy in the books and movies.

I mean listen to what you're talking about: Comfiest place on earth - a highschool full of wizard bullies.
Really?

>>82150732
Can you somehow circumvent this by having several different holding companies in Gondor, Rohan and the Shire transferribg your savings back and forth?
What about donations and gifts? Can you get tax reduction?
How open is Sauron to the concept if a flax tax?

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>>82150073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGaz_qN0cw
>tfw

>>82150960
No, and maybe.

Since asset transfers are purely analog, monies in the process of being transferred are subject to tax liability via freelance pillaging in the post-conquest economic environment.

However, donations directly to the great eye might be tax deductible. But I'm not sure how that helps in any way with a 100% tax rate.

>>82151197
But with a tax rate like that, all businesses might migrate into easterling territory where economic regulations aren't that strict.
It seems to me a tax reform is more than overdue. How does a process like that work in Mordor? What are the usual deadlines?

>>82151150
dat ost! how can hogwartfags even compete?

>>82149407
Actually the Shire did have a Thane in the beginning and Arthedain gave them lands that the elves had abandoned.

>>82151346
Its a bit like the DPRK "military first" policy, but in this case, its "Military only".

If jobs migrate east, they invade east, which is fine because Sauron has a huge base of human support made up of a large Morgoth cult.

>>82151463
I'm sure that'll change once they see his tax policy!

>>82150833
the basilisk snuck around the halls though and petrified/killed people so avoiding that was pure luck until Harry killed it.

>>82151546
Something tells me the eastern folk will prioritize the rewards of Allah- I mean- Morgoth over low taxes.

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>You will never be a stable boy in the royal stable and catch glimpses of Aragorn's hot elf wife
>ywn grow old still shoveling shit while Arwen remains at prime beauty
>ywn see the King's qt half elf princesses

NOT FAIR

Any here that would have been interested in Tolkien writing that New Shadow book that takes place 100 years after Aragorn has died with humans becoming tempted by evil, the youth 'playing Orc' basically destroying shit like niggers and a shadow cult forming in the United Kingdom of Gondor?

>>82151599
The kids were advised to go around in groups. Only the ones who didn't got attacked. So only the retards. Plus the Basilisk was only active during Harry's 2nd year, I already made clear that I'm not talking about that time.

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Choose your character!

>>82147887
>captain of the northern rangers, did deeds with them that earned respect
>familiar with all the elf kingdoms, did deeds with them that earned respect
>served in the Rohan army, known to their king Fengal, did deeds with them that earned respect
>served in the Gondor army, known to their steward, single-handedly over threw a Corsair navy and saved Gondor, earned respect
>swayed the dead army to their cause
>lead the defense of Helm's Deep
>lead the final battle at the Black Gate

That nigga didn't need the blood rights. He would've been crowned anyway.

>>82150009
>Men of Numenor live a long time because they're descended from a half-elf,
Objectively incorrect. Their increased lifespan was a gift granted to them by Eru.
Elros and Elrond were the half elven, it was rare, and Elros wasn't the father of the entire race of numenor.

>>82149778
Not really. Its a demonstrable fact that breaking oaths in middle earth is a fantastic way to get your entire bloodline cursed for an age or two.

>>82151841
I'd be interested just out of curiosity but the reason Tolkien abandoned it is because he realized the age of man in the Fourth Age was so mundane and uninteresting.

>>82147887
>Was Tolkien a hack?
Yes.

>>82154148
>t. fat weeb GURM fan

>>82148745
the folkking period of sweden did it
albeit it did cause alot of civil wars

>>82149180
>judging their reactions
he was fucking blind you 60 iq nigger

>>82149640
And getting raped threeway by austria prussia and russia

>>82147887
Why is his crown on backwards lmao

>>82149678
nah dude luthien literally made sauron spill his moms sphaghetti on the bridge to the isle of werewolves
she did sing morgoth to spleep

Because hes mary sue

>>82155030
Was Aragorn a Mary-Sue though? didn't he have some flaws like um...

>>82152407
You might be right about that.
The royal line then, definitely.

>>82155019
Yeah, she and Sauron had a magic battle with spells cast by singing.

Its actually a weird addition to the movies that I don't think was even in the books: When Gandalf was on the mountain before Moria and he and Saruman started singing at each other.
Same concept.

>>82151862
>its safe if you travel in groups

Sounds like fucking baltimore

Technically Aragorn is elected, or at least acclaimed:

>Then Faramir stood up and spoke in a clear voice: ‘Men of Gondor hear now the Steward of this Realm! Behold! one has come to claim the kingship again at last. Here is Aragorn son of Arathorn, chieftain of the Dúnedain of Arnor, Captain of the Host of the West, bearer of the Star of the North, wielder of the Sword Reforged, victorious in battle, whose hands bring healing, the Elfstone, Elessar of the line of Valandil, Isildur’s son, Elendil’s son of Númenor. Shall he be king and enter into the City and dwell there?’
>And all the host and all the people cried yea with one voice.

>>82156728
>>And all the host and all the people cried yea with one voice.

Lmao Tolkien is a fucking HACK.

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>>82147887
because he was heir to the throne. thats how monarchy works dipshit.

>>82148127
we are not a monarchy fuckwad. the only dynastic shit we have been dealing with in america are the bushes and clintons

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>>82156970
>we are not a monarchy
>the only dynastic shit we have been dealing with in america are the bushes and clintons
>this is what bluepilled plebs actually believe

>>82156813
hehe yeh

>>82156728
He has to be convinced to come into the city and the house of healing because he insists that he doesn't want to pass the gates until he had earned the right to claim the throne. Part of that is having the will of the people behind them.
The whole story of the men of westerness is that that its a harrowing of the faithful. Its even prophesized that the dunedain of the north would fall into obscurity but if they maintained their faith and honor eventually one would be worthy of reclaiming their greatness. Its a messianic story told from the POV of the messiah himself, and his cohorts.

>>82148127
>reddit spacing
>sounds like he has dick in his mouth
fuck off reddit

>>82157069
>American """"""""arguments""""""""

>>82157150
calling out faggotry was never meant to be an argument you fucking idiot. not even an american either, cocksucker

>>82157224
Go on, Americuck, your butthurt is delicious.

>>82148127
Here's another (you) for you friendo.

>>82157021
Explain how the US is a monarchy then brainlet.

The nigga showed up, rallied the armies of gondor, and smashed the orcs that were storming the capital before leading a coalition of western armies to the black gate and miraculously standing victorious as thousands of orcs flee him.

He won that crown through right of conquest, straight Caesar'd that shit. Faggot liberals will never understand.

>>82154882
The English did it too until William the Bastard invaded and imposed French ways of doing things on them.

>>82157461
not to mention it helps when the magical white wizard demigod that was defending your city in the first gives his blessings.

>>82157021
calls me bluepilled

hurts so much anon how will i ever recover

good thing i voted for bernie to get that sweet social healthcare to tend my wounds

>bad guy's name is sauron
>his second in command is sauron's man
>>82149320
>>82149127

>>82149462
He's wearing it in the films.

>>82149462
>Galdalf didn't even want to join because he was a very weak Maiar
No hes not. Its called humility. He learned at the feet of the wisest of the Valar, and learning empathy from the goddess of empathy.
Tolkiens universe didn't have faggot power levels like your chinese cartoons. True power comes from wisdom, empathy, and hope.

>>82157684
Lol ebin XD!

>>82157884
in the same vein, Sauron is feared for the most part not because of his outright power but his intelligence, cunning, and influence over others. He uses the world to his advantage and would prefer diplomatic cunning to achieve victory. He is clearly more powerful than gandalf, but neither of them compares head to head with the real gods. Remember he's just a spawn of morgoth and doesn't compare with Eru and his gods.

>>82157924
:^)

>>82147980

>baby orcs

Has GRRM never actually read Tolkien or is he legitimately retarded?

>>82155078
He had some fear and insecurity of falling to the temptation of the Ring in the films.

>>82158012
Sauron was a disciple of Aule, the god of technology, artifice, and science as it existed. So was Saruman.
It speaks to tolkiens luddite view of technology, that it grants power without wisdom. Considering he was in WWI and lived through WWII he saw first hand the folly of power without wisdom, and that it led to opression and destruction.
Sauron and Mordor are very much personifying that force.

>>82155866
>When Gandalf was on the mountain before Moria and he and Saruman started singing at each other.

I don't recall this happening.

>>82147887

> Go to bed Deanethor... you have not the right to deny the return of the king.

Aragorn wasn't always a Ranger, he is fucking 96 and received the proper instruction from Lord Elrond in Rivendel, long ago... so yeah, he knows politics and have powerful friends and have the blood line and the support of the fucking angels, demigods, the fucking middle earth pope and whatnot.

>>82158325
When they tried the mountain pass over Caradhras.

>>82149127
sorosman

>>82149171
he wants to know lotr lore but thinks bookfags won't impart it to him if he just asks nicely so he rustles their jimmies up a bit to get them singing

>>82159010
Oh now I know what you mean. I interpreted that as more spell reciting than actual singing but I guess it's sort of singing in that scene.

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>>82155866
>magic battles with spells cast by singing

>>82150879
>a highschool full of wizard bullies.
Don't shame that Anon for his fetish now.