Stupid white people, don't you understand that William

Great thread, OP. Really jargon my nargon.

>>82106834
> Picture of the writer is LITTERALY a white woman and her cat

Really niggin my noggin.

>>82106834
>writer say of her political ennemis they don't understand the movie, or only in good/bad terms
> Review is litteraly HEY WHITE PPL UR BAD OK ? BLACKS ARE ALWAYS VICTIMS

>Hey, White People
Huh, me? I'm white.

>Michael Douglas Is the Villain, Not the Victim, in Falling Down
Well, duh. I got that watching it when I was 12.

>Ignores article

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>>82106834
Don't you understand that Sanders was the rapist?

>>82106834
He was a villain and a victim. Only idiots think he was a hero.

People can't seem to understand that a person can be a victim while still doing bad things against other people.

>it's good and natural that non-whites make Los Angeles a shitty place to live

>>82106834
> What's a anti-hero ?

>>82106834
>white men were finding themselves destabilized — not guaranteed a place on top
What a load of bullshit. Since when have white men been guaranteed a place on top?

>>82106834
>people can't be villains and victims at the same time
is she retarded

>>82107460
i get that to normies dfens was the villain and a victim but to me he was the hero. i hope you can understand me like i understand you.

>>82107981
how so? are nervous breakdowns acts of heroism? i get being able to sympathize with him, but why see him as a hero?

>>82106834
He didn't do anything villianess.

He took the final redpill, his wife took his only daughter away from him and he couldn't even visit her.

>>82107923
>woman
>subtlety
pick one and only one, I still haven't met a girl that managed to understand Great Gatsby, and that's a goddamn high school book.

>>82107981
>taking your anger out on everyone in your path regardless of whether they deserve it
>Hero
I think you need to reevaluate your life.

>>82106834
Yeah, nah, he was the hero.

>>82107981
You're fucking retarded
>fucking failure has nervous breakdowns every 10 minutes, yells at daughter for no reason at all
>even he realizes this as he watches old home videos
>destroys some store because of the price of some coke or something
>goes apeshit over mcdonalds not serving breakfast after 11
>wants to actually murder his own daughter and ex-wife
>psychopath lies to his own mother for years about keeping his job
Yeah what a hero, but he got fired, that's the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone in the history of the world and it has only happened to him so he's completely justified!

>>82106834
>William
>VILLIAN

Pottery

>>82108120
You made sense until your very last sentence.
>If life shits all over you, just fucking take it and do nothing you privileged douche, everyone's life is shit so deal with it

This kind of message is probably why people identify with the main character, although his actions are obviously absurd and exaggerated.

>>82106834
>William was the VILLIAN
He's a pretty typical antihero.

>>82108273
>If life shits all over you take it out on innocent bystanders
>Hero

>>82108042
This, the only person he kills is a nazi. I guess he induces the golf faggot's heart attack but that was deserved too.

>>82109471
>you're only a villain if you kill people

>>82110070
go home beaner

>>82107735
you didn't grow up on the "if you go to college you'll have an upper managerial position waiting for you upon graduation" meme?

>>82111244
So because someone tells you that you will get that job if you go to college it means you are guaranteed that job?

This is a pretty good article desu

>>82111447
>he does it for free

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>>82106834
okay I'll go watch it. lately I am very suggestable.

>>82108094
Did he take his anger out on the rich family who's back garden he stumbles into? No. So your attempt at a point is null.

>>82106834
>childhood is thinking D-FNS is the villain
>adulthood is realizing you should be shitposting on /pol/

Isn't the point of everyone cheering him on is because he's doing what we want to do in our minds but we don't because we know the consequences?

Like sometimes when you get annoyed at work by your cunt boss for the hundredth time you wish you could just snap and fucking scream at people but you don't.

This dude is just doing what we fantasize about and we say fuck it and cheer him on.

>>82111821
>Isn't the point of everyone cheering him on is because he's doing what we want to do in our minds but we don't because we are slaves?
Yes.

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"These people wrote an article presenting the world in a dichotomous light, that proves my point that an entire group of people are horrible."

t.(You)

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>>82106834
STOP BEING WHITE

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>>82111821
Unfortunately, this CURRENT GENERATION only believes in snapping and screaming to defend deviant behavioral patterns instead of their own pride and self-respect.

>>82111913
Why is she strangling that poor cat?

>>82107404

>being a cuck circa 2003

>>82107460

>People can't seem to understand that a person can be a victim while still doing bad things against other people.

Literally no millenial can get this, they are either good pure people or bad egotistical people

>>82107735
This movie followed layoffs in the defense industry as part of the "peace dividend", a consequence of the made up, "history is over!" meme with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Worked all his life building defense equipment, what, nobody wants missile engineers or whatever anymore?

When the movie came out, there was discussion of whether you should feel a cathartic rush as he roughed up all these shitheads in a string of vignettes, as he has his downfall.

The only misstep in the movie is he kills the army surplus guy.

He did literally nothing wrong.

>>82112037
This is literally a board made of millenials and we are talking about this idea.

Are you retarded?

>>82112294

Yeah because your edgy personality is so common in the millenial age group lol

All the shots of the filthy cramped city with the close ups of people and the blistering heat waves in the air and the dirt and all the fucking mix of races and poverty is so claustrophobic. Its one of the few times a movie made me feel uncomfortable watching. Like it affected my breathing.

>it's a 13 year old edgelords don't see the problem in throwing a massive violent tantrum across town episode

Here's hoping Trumptards and antifas break each other's heads today. I'm sure it'll accomplish something.

>>82112661
Except literally everyone sees the problem in it. It's why we don't do it. This movie is fantasy dude.

It's honestly more worrying that you don't get that.

>>82106834
He was antihero.

>>82112612
Holy shit this, the director did a good job making me feel disgusted by the city.

>>82107460
Anything beyond totally good/evil paradigm is too hard for normies

>>82107460
well I'm just watching it now it's about half over. It seems like the moral of the story is to treat people nicely because maybe you can get away with being a dick because of social norms inhibiting people from treating you as you deserve, but one day maybe someone won't be bound by those laws of society.

But do you really need to treat people well just because you are scared of violence? You should just do it because it's right.

Why do people never get that the twist of the movie is that he never had any intention of hurting his wife at the end?

He had a fucking toy for his kid and a water pistol. It's implied through the movie his entire motivation is going to go take his anger out on his WHORE CUNT of an ex wife and kill her but he doesn't. Not even when he could.

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What's the point of this scene?

>>82113334
This

>>82112705
>Except literally everyone sees the problem in it.
>multiple posts in the thread worshiping D-Fens

Okay.

He was a tragic villain, an epitome of the obsolete blue-collar white man in today's weird world.

This is like watching the boys in the hood movie and calling them the villains of it becuse they not only robbed people but shot people with bb guns out their car

>>82113453
>>82113334
>He had a toy pistol
....after his wife kicked the real gun away from him.

>>82106834
I wrote an essay about this movie that says that it decrypts a society so ill that the normal guy becomes the tumor

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this movie could never be made today because they got the all day breakfast at mcdonalds now so you wouldn't even have to worry about being late for breakfast.

>>82106834
Was he a villain? Or just another victim of society?

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>>82113140
>browsing and posting on 4chan while watching a movie
What is wrong with you?

>>82113896
He would ask for a mcflurry and he would be told the machine is broke.

>>82113422
To show that Micheal Douglass wasn't alone in being ignored and shit on by society.

>>82113460
>boo hoo the nazi and the rich, old cunt deserved to live

>>82108273
why didnt he just get another job? he's a STEM rocket scientist from what I understand. He could've branched off into anything with his resume but instead he cries about contract work running out?

>>82113479
These people were black, so it's ok.
Only minorities have a right to be angry at the world.

>>82113422
Its showing that others are in his same situation. He sees himself in this black dude. They are even wearing the exact same outfit.. Also shows its not about LE ANGRY WHITE MALE when there's a nig nog going through the same hardship

>>82114154
Gee im sure he never thought of that.

>>82111913
Why does she have fucking Idaho tattooed on her arm?

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>>82114025
your image game is weak

>>82113896
>tfw all day breakfast but the only thing you like is the big breakfast but they only serve breakfast sandwiches
I mean I guess I could deconstruct a mcmuffin or something but its not the same

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>>82114254
What makes you say that weeb?

>>82113577
The squirtgun wasn't a gift he took it from her house. I kinda doubt he was going to kill them though.

The whole point of Falling Down wasn't "Hurr white male rage is fallacious because of white privilege." It was to make you support the main character then make you feel like shit as you slowly realize you were allying with a psychopath the whole time.

Yeah, he was always the bad guy. No, it was not a condemnation of "white male rage."

>>82107460
>poor black people lash out in violence
>buuuh victim culture just take responsibility for your actions lol

>>82108120
This. As annoying as some of the content in that article is, it's right. D-Fens isn't supposed to be a hero or a victim. He's an angry person throwing a violent temper tantrum because he was mad the world didn't give him things he felt entitled to.

>>82114251
>not having a tattoo of americas number one potato-producing state

Hahahahahaha fucking pleb

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>>82114347

>>82114609
Why shouldn't he be mad? He was a hard working honest man that lost everything. If he can't be mad at that what can he be mad at?

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>>82114652

>>82114652
wtf I love Canada now!

The line "I'm the bad guy?" and the context/delivery it's given in tells you literally everything

>>82114730
The point is, that even if you are justified in your anger, you shouldn't take it out on other people.

Coincidentally, not lashing out suits the people who wrong you quite fine.

>>82106834
Wait really? A sympathetic villian? Damn I thought he was the hero of this film. I mean he spent like a few seconds trying to care about the guy having a heart attack after he spooked him into having it, and he like, worked for the DoD n shit. Heart of gold this guy. He only beat the guy for daring to sell his soda for the price set by supply and demand which he was too retarded to understand.

>that scene where they try to make him seem less racist and unamerican by having him beat up the literal gasmask nazi when he's been acting like a retarded white supremacist socialist the entire movie, demonstrating a willful lack of understanding about the basics of American culture

>>82115380
>EVERYONE WAS SO KIND AND UNDERSTANDING TO HIM! WHY WAS HE SO ANGRY WITH THESE PEOPLE?

>>82114554
/pol/ is mostly socialists, just like you. Neither of your groups can fully grasp the concept of agency, so try not to go after each other over it. You're the same shit.

>>82114652
But lesbians irl are ugly dykes, lesbians are hot is a harmful sexist stereotype against heterosexual (sane) women perpetuated by the sexist chauvinist porn industry, wtf, I love Saudi Arabia now.

Nobody says it's not okay to get mad. Everybody gets mad and you have to when life fucks you over otherwise you'll go insane. But to take it out on other people is retarded
>B-but muh normies just don't get it, I'm exactly like D-Fens!

Does anyone actually side with William in this film? The only decent thing he does is fucking off the Nazi

>>82115625
If people are fine with the system, they are fair game.

>>82115625
>THIS ASSHOLE JUST TRIED TO SELL THIS SODA FOR MORE THAN I WANTED IT TO BE AND DIDN'T CARE THAT I LOOKED SWEATY AND DISGRUNTLED BECAUSE IT'S SOOOOO HOT
>LET ME CLUB HIM WHILE I TELL HIM THE CORRECT PRICES HE MORALLY MUST SELL EVERYTHING FOR
>FUCK LE BOURGEOIS
>RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>I PAID YOU THE PRICE I SET AFTER THREATENING YOU TO LOWER IT, THUS IS AM NOT A THIEF

>>82115676
/pol/ does, hilariously. Mostly to trigger people though, or for the laughs, because /pol/ is the last vestige of the thing /b/ used to be the only thing keeping alive on 4chan...a developed, non-sensitive sense of humor. SJW faggots spend amazing amounts of time lurking /pol/ or /pol/ peripheries and getting triggered, it seems. The irony of having to point out that he's a bad guy to get back at /pol/ boogeyman when he beats up a Nazi caricature worse than anyone else in the film must be pretty bitter.

>>82106834
He was the villain though. He didn't start off as the villain but ended up being that

The whole point of the ending sequence was him realizing that

>I'm the bad guy?

>>82115761
Clearly not white

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>>82107174
>white
You forgot some (((punctuation))) there, bud

>>82115712
>i-it's da system!
Yes, peaceful trade sure is more oppressive to the little people than constant, unending war. Hear me now, because this affects your future. There are exactly three actually effective methods for directing how masses interact with each other beyond letting them loot, rape and pillage each other how they please until everything collapses and new systems form. They are:
- Near-constant formalized wars. Rape, looting, and pillaging, but on the clock and with rest periods in between.
- Indoctrination. The inducement of functional forms of mass mental illness. REQUIRE a focus of hatred and negative emotions. The most effective is a group of people, foreign or domestic. Otherwise, abstract concepts which people will eventually grow to consider other groups to be the avatars of, and sometimes rightly.
- Trade. People who are better at making and organizing things do better in this one, as opposed to people who are only good at killing and breaking shit. Mutually enriching when allowed to continue. Advances scientific and technological progress without the need for warfare. Leads to vast income inequality, while raising the material quality of life and care for everyone. Its only downfall is retards will look at the discrepancy between the rich and the poor, ignore the poor's bettering lot or think it could be improved faster despite this literally never ever happening even once in history especially not by "redistributing" wealth, and stick their dick in something they're too stupid and jealous to understand. The poor and the lazy will follow along like retards, no matter how much you try to explain to them that they're not just robbing their betters, people who work and think harder than they do and the dynasties those people set up...they're actually fucking themselves and ensuring they and their children will pay more and get less because they keep disrupting and disincentivizing the trade machine.

>>82115837
I'm supposed to be a nigger-tier socialist to be white now?

>>82115761
>I feel okay when people step all over me, and you should too!

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>>82107441
Demi Moore looked delicious in that film.

>>82112294
>a board made of millenials

Bah !
Bah ! I say !

>>82115945
Guess what makes the world go around.

If you answered anything other than strife, I have some bad news about your intellect.

>>82112037
True.

SJWs lack nuance.

>>82115979
Nice victim complex there.
"This guy gets to decide what he sells the things he buys for, WHAT THE FUCK he's literally stepping all over me for making a business decision, holy shit RRREEEEE Coke outlets when"
Pathetic. Literally as bad as SJWs.
"I walk into the convenience store, I'm triggered"
"Price of soda isn't what I wanted it to be...triggered"

>>82115625

You're really out of touch with modern society. Today's normies openly advocate using violence against people who don't agree with them. At least the liberal ones do.

>>82108042
He beat up a store owner for overcharging.
He nearly shot up a McD's because they didn't serve breakfast.
Blew up a part of a street because it was under construction but didn't need any fixing.
Gave an old golfer a heart attack and ran his meds into a lake because he was rude and hit a ball at him.
Caused a near city-wide panic.

tl;dr He was an asshole for a good chunk of it.

>>82116055
Is the bad news that I think in coherent structured thought, not fatalistic memes?
"Huh people keep hurting each other, I guess that must mean that if they didn't nothing would happen"
Wow I guess that means that if you stopped being a retarded faggot 4chan would cease to exist.
Nice solipsist bullshit.

>>82116083
>trying this hard to call someone /pol/

>>82116122
Sorry if the truth upsets you.

>"Huh people keep hurting each other, I guess that must mean that if they didn't nothing would happen"

When people stop using the technology they developed to kill one another, they use it for civil things.
That's how it is, now and forever.

>>82116116
>He beat up a store owner for overcharging.

Literally did not.

>>82115761
The definition of "not getting the point" here.

>>82116265
Yes he did, it was not self-defense for that scene. He was free to leave and try another store.

>>82116361
He wanted change for the phone.

>>82107441
>tfw you read this for a book report without knowing about the graphic sex

>>82116382
And the store owner is free to refuse, a dick move but not illegal.

>>82114652
brb moving to Saudi Arabia

what an atrocious article
>DUDE EVERYTHING IS ABOUT RACE LMAO

>>82116361
He never hits him, you have to find a better bait

>>82106834
Falling Down is a poor mans God Bless America

>>82116774
Nah it's the other way around

>>82116774
Not even close. D-fens actually had a reason to be angry. The retard in God Bless America was literally too stupid to purchase headphones and stop watching TV.

>>82116116
Sure he was being an asshole but the point is he's doing what we all want to do when we get annoyed as fuck.

The entire movie is his exaggerated reaction to everyday grievances millions and millions of people have to deal with and what they WISH they could do.

>>82106834
Its alright Op, you obviously didn't understand the movie.

>>82117148
yeah, wish fulfillment is prime movie material and I'm glad it was made. It'll sate your urges, seeing somebody else have the same grievances. Somebody out there knows it's bullshit that mcdonalds can't serve breakfast and lunch at the same time, NONE OF THE FOOD IS RAW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COOKED, IT'S ALL STORED IN YOUR FUCKING STORE, I WANT A HAMBURGER AT 6 AM BECAUSE I WORK NIGHTS, FUUUUUCK

>>82117329
Aren't most maccy D's 24 hour nowadays?

>>82117406
they are, but still from something like 4-5AM 'til 10AM it's breakfast. even the ones that have "breakfast all day (limited menu)" don't have hamburgers all day.

>>82117450
Damn. That's enough to make you very ANGERY!