Will the second movie happen? Should it? I really liked

>>82048694
fans of the game liked the movie, from all that i've heard (myself included).

dunno why you'd see a warcraft movie if you didn't play the games/know the lore. fuck critics. there better be a whole scaled universe planned

>>82048773
i dont know the lore, and i enjoyed it

probably never, it flopped, it didn't manage to satisfy the fans of the series and it wasn't near engaging enough a movie to please moviegoers that didn't know what warcraft was

honestly they should have just cut their losses and started with Arthas, its pretty much the best story to be told in the entire series

The movie was saved by having fucking Ragnar Lodbrok as the MC. Since Vikings is over he's gonna be full time Lothar.

>>82048694
They better make a second AND a third, I want my fucking warcraft 3 movie

>>82048694
It was surprisingly not shit. The magic was handled well and everything. It wasn't just energy beams pew pew like in late Harry Potter, for instance.

I'd watch a second, and third one, as I'd too like to see a W3 movie. Doesn't seem likely though.

>>82048773
I'm the huge fan and even I think that the movie was shit

>>82048838
arthas is the story of a young, rash, idealistic paladin who in desperation turns to dark forces beyond his understanding in the face of insurmountable opposition.

to say, its the fucking star wars prequels, except without fucking space ships.

>>82048773
>fans of the game liked the movie
Not really, it underperformed in every country but China.

Warcraft is trash, fuck off/v/

It absolutely should happen. If it does, I hope the orcs get toned down slightly, as they were stupidly big in the first movie.

>>82048694
It was alright. Atrocious editing but was better than any other vidya movie I've seen.

>>82051122

Autist. this is a forum dedicated to the discussion of movies. Warcraft is a movie.

Fuck off.

>>82051180
>reddit spacing
Die in a fire /v/irgin

>>82051058
8/10

China's patrician saved the sequels, we should be praising them.

Never played the game or anything but I thought the movie was very fun and a nice change up from all the grimdark bullshit every other action/fantasy movie is doing

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>>82051215
>le reddit boogeyman
LOL GUIZE I FIT IN SEE I HATE REDDIT

fuck off

>>82051215

What the fuck is "reddit spacing" Sounds like someone spends half their time on reddit

KYS

>>82051215

>default insult is to go to something about reddit.

Boy, summer time already?

>>82048694

It will get a sequel.

Other movies have done much shittier at the box office and been universally panned, yet still received sequels.

>>82048773
A friend and I saw it having never played either Warcraft or WoW and we loved it.

>>82048694
Hopefully the next Warcraft movie is about Arthas, his Culling of Stratholme, his journey to Northrend to get Frostmourne, becoming a Death Knight, killing his father, scarring Silvermoon, raising Kel'Thuzad, then becoming the host of the LK

>>82051058
Arthas is Anakin done right.

>>82051542
That's curious. What about it did you like? I only ask because while I did enjoy it I have no idea how anyone who has never been invested in the world could possibly find it appealing.

>>82048694
>>82048838
The movie did great in China, so it's guaranteed that there will be sequels. But Blizzard will probably not invest too heavily in the US marketing for the sequels.

>>82048773
I don't know anything about Warcraft lore but liked it

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Uther: Glad I could make it, Arthas.

Arthas: I watch my tone with you, old man. I may be the prince, but you're still my superior as a paladin.

Uther: As if you could forget. Yes Arthas, there's something about the plague I should know. ...Oh no, it's already begun. These people may look fine now, but it's only a matter of time before they turn into the Undead!

Arthas: What?!

Uther: This entire city must be purged.

Arthas: How can I even consider that? There's got to be some other way.

Uther: Damn it, Arthas! As my future king, order me to purge this city!

Arthas: I am not your king yet, old man. Nor should you obey that command even if I were.

Uther: Then you must consider this an act of treason.

Arthas: Treason?! Have I lost my mind, Uther?

Uther: Have you? Prince Arthas, by right of succession and the sovereignty of your crown, you must hereby relieve me of my command, and suspend my paladins from service.

Jaina: Uther! He can't just--

Uther: It's done! Those of you who have the will to save this land, follow him. The rest of you... get out of his sight.

Arthas: I've just crossed a terrible threshold, Uther.

Jaina: ...Arthas?

Arthas: I'm sorry, Jaina. You can't watch me do this.

I sure as fuck hope so i loved it. The fight between Gul'Dan and Durotan was great.

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>>82048694
>lich kino when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck

I liked it, but it really shows the age of the game. Garona in particular looked really fucking out of place next to the more "real" feeling orc women.

>>82048694
Didn't Metzen retire right after this bombed? I'd assume no 2nd.

>>82048694
It made $800 million in China. As long as they're willing to make it without spooky skeletons they're guaranteed to make billions.

>>82048839
the fuck are you talking about you godddamn retard he was nothing like lothar, he was complete fucking shit at the role, idc if it was his fault or the director's or just the fact that lothar is nothing like that and they wanted a pretty boy maverick kind of character to sell the movie but that was absolute bottom tier 0/10 casting

>>82052870
>>82052973
So I guess Lich King movie will never happen...

>>82052973
It only made $433.7 million overall. It probably didn't even break even.

>>82052776
Thought i was having a stroke there for a second

>>82048694
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9To3QSxwAmQ
if you liked it you should feel bad.
faggot Duncan Jones said his movie was better than Tolkien in part because it had "diversity."
jesus fucking christ

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>>82048694

>movie is called Warcraft
>they don't actually craft wars

someone explain this to me

>>82053316
It was the way they titled previous games

Starcraft, Diablocraft, Vikingcraft, etc

>>82048694
>>82048773
I went in blind knowing nothing about this movie and I enjoyed the shirt out of it

I only played the game once 15 years ago for about an hour

>>82053617
Wooosh

Right over your head

>>82048694
Considering how shitty the first one was, no, it shouldn't happen.

The story of the First War is one of the simplest there are in Warcraft and they managed to fuck it all up to...fuck, I don't even know who they were trying to please.

Imagine them trying to adapt the Second War which has more characters, more Gul'dan's shenanigans and more unit diversity.

>>82048694
>No
>No
>Low standards.

>>82053316
>Build giant army
>Build giant gate with enemies on the other side
>Proceed to send army through to build another gate so you may fight yet more enemies
>Not crafting war
Explain that to me.

>>82052613
The setting as a whole was beautiful, anything with the orcs was great, music was great. And hot damn, the Gul Dan battle with Durotan and the final battle was pure sex. Best fantasy I've seen a long damn time tbqh. And the free copy of WoW we got at the screening made it even comfier. Still haven't bothered to play it, but the movie was still great regardless.

>tfw we will never get a Lich King movie because China is fucked

>>82054363
right, you can't do the undead at all in china. Its literally illegal.

so people saying 'DO ARFAS' are even dumber than I first thought

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>>82054640
>right, you can't do the undead at all in china. Its literally illegal.
what? why?

are zombies and skeletons offensive to their emperor or some dumb shit like that?

>>82048694
>No Kilrog and Cho'gal fucking up the invasion of Stormwind and being pissy with each other
>No Ner'zhul chained up in Gul'dan's tent being a sarcastic asshole to him
>Doomhammer is a fucking frostwolf for some reason
>Garona is a half human somehow
>Medihv went to Kalimdor and slept with either a Night Elf or maybe a Tauren
What even was this movie

>>82048694
same here. I think it blew the whole lord of the walk triology if anything the only people complaining are butthurt fans and idiots who dont like it because it was based off of a game. I never played the fucking game and dont care if it was based on one. the action scenes and the magic where great it was a fantasy movie that finally delivered.

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>>82048694
What did he mean by this?

>>82054902
they're "communist." any depiction of an afterlife or life after death undermines the authority of the state.

>>82054996
how old are you, goddamn

>>82054996
*out of the water

>>82055152
old enough to know willow was fucking better than lord of the rings you child

>>82054996
Why do you think that, though? What was good about it?

>>82052776
>tfw see the "bake it" version so often forgot what the original was like

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>>82052776
>Have I lost my mind, Uther?
everrytime

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>>82048838
>flopped
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_(film)

Budget $160 million
Box office $433.7 million

yeah, it flopped REAL hard

>>82055218
it was a fantasy movie that had fantasy elements. the characters had motives for the most part and it wasnt bogged down with boring scenery and anticlimactic battles. the wizards actually wiz'd the warriors fought and the orcs where fascinating. I like how it was an alien invasion but in a fantasy setting as well. It was enjoyable.

>>82055203
oh

you're a mentally retarded middle aged man

Not saying you're wrong about willow of course, the lord of the rings movies were far too sterile and empty, but to think warcraft was anything other than crap is symptomatic of brain damage.

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>>82052776
>>82055267

>>82055388
whatever floats your boat friendo

>>82055427
>my opinions are fact unless you claim they're wrong

... uh huh

why do they let tards on the internet? I never quite understood that.

>>82048694
This movie was far from a bomb. It didnt do well domestically. But it killed it internationally.

Luckily and unfortunately that seems to be the aim of Hollywood these days. Just look at Fast 8.

It might be a couple more years but I can see an announcement at next years comic con.

It was an alright 6.5/10 dumb action flick.
Could have been a 7 if they cut out the "romance" scenes that disturbed the pacing.

>>82055313
Not him but most of that money (around $220 mil) came from China and the Studio only gets 25% of the ticket sales. Unless they made somekind of deal beforehand.

So it barely broke-even, if marketing/PR is included.

>>82055447
different anon but,

I think it's useful to point out that the movie is bad mostly because warcraft lore is one of the most terrible pieces of fantasy ever, riddled with plot holes, inconsistencies and continuity errors, informal retcons, poor character development, way too much CIS (character induced stupidity), etc...

>>82055111
no. death is held to be sacred in China.

>>82055523
they can't do arthas because china will block any movie that depicts an afterlife or life after death.

meaning they have to cut teron gorefiend and the deathknights from wc2, if they do it at all.

furthermore china pocketed the standard 80% from foreign trade, despite the fact they own legendary.

There isn't going to be another warcraft movie.

>>82055416
this is the best

>>82055619
... because life after death would undermine the authority of the state by giving people something other than the glory of the state to live/work for.

>>82055611
bullshit

"So as a ballpark figure, studios generally take in around 50-55 percent of U.S. box office money."

http://io9.gizmodo.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable

>>82055783
actually, maybe not:

(same article)
"According to the book The Hollywood Economist by Edward Jay Epstein, studios take in about 40 percent of the revenue from overseas release — and after expenses, they're lucky if they take in 15 percent of that number."

>>82055783
>U.S. box office money.
We are talking about china here.

http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/lights-china-action-how-china-is-getting-into-the-global-entertainment-business/
>Hollywood can enter the Chinese market in three ways: through revenue-sharing films, flat-fee movies and co-producing a movie with a Chinese company. The quota of 34 films applies to revenue-sharing films, which lets foreign studios take 25% of the box office receipts or about half the norm for other parts of the world.

>>82055783
>US
>china

...

>>82054966
>What even was this movie

An amalgam of Metzen's retarded retcons, Jones' own ideas and studio meddling. I'm not sure about Jones but two out of these three can't write.

>>82048694
Will it? Maybe. Should it? No.

>>82055689
no. you are an idiot.

>>82052711
The movie did pretty well in China but it bombed everywhere else. I don't know why you think that because it made 200m in china, but completely flopped in all other markets, means it WILL get a sequel.

Who w3arena here?

>>82055783
>studios generally take in around 50-55 percent of U.S. box office money
>50-55 percent of U.S. box office money
>U.S. box office money
>U.S

Wow, you sure showed him.

>>82056007
your lack of counter argument is noted

>>82056070
>doesn't read any other posts in this thread
>even the next one down

>>>/reddit/

>>82056095
>spouts bullshit
>expects others to validate his claims

fuck off

>Sony opens their own studio and makes movies
>they are mostly shit and barely break even
>Sony makes games and consoles
>they pretty much print money and are rightnow the most successful part of the company

>Blizzard makes games
>they pretty much print money
>Blizzard makes their own studio to make game-based movies
>their first one barely breaks even and its mostly shit
really fired up the neurons

I enjoyed it and only played a few times

>>82056366
You're retarded. Video Games is actually one of Sony's least profitable divisions. The president of PlayStation even said that only 3 out of 10 of their games turn a profit. The divisions that make them the most money are Finance and Cameras.

If Sony was just a video game company they would have folded by now.

>>82056366
You what? Sony Pictures made Sony lose 1 billion dollars during a single quarter last year. They do not break even, and Video Games does not "print money" for them because it hardly makes them anything. Learn more about companies by reading their fiscal reports before sounding like a dumb ass with posts like this..

>>82056471
Must have been recent then since the PS4 was the only part making a profit in 2015 and stood for most of the profits in 2016.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/ps4-sales-sony-full-year-profit/

>>82048773
>fans of the game liked the movie, from all that i've heard

You might be retarded, it was awful.

>>82056585
>and Video Games does not "print money" for them because it hardly makes them anything
I know, I am talking about how the gaming division is the only successful part of the company carrying all that dead weight. I guess it was my mistake in mentioning the film divison "barely break even", since it is as you said atrocious and a reason why everything the PS4 tries to do gets reduces to loss.

But point being, Blizzard shoudl just avoid it alltogether and stick with gaming.

Still,

>>82056650
I read this article, and it seems like it's only talking about the Sony Play Station brand and not Sony as a whole in regards to profitability and revenue for that section. Video games have never been their most successful division and you can see this in their financial reports.

>>82056853
>I know, I am talking about how the gaming division is the only successful part of the company carrying all that dead weight.
No, that's finance. Once again, you should look at their financial reports. Stop being retarded.

they should make all the warcraft 3 campaigns and final battle is Arthas vs Illidan

>>82056932
>Q1
https://venturebeat.com/2016/07/28/sonys-playstation-division-accounted-for-78-of-its-q1-2016-profits/
>Q2
https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/01/sony-q2-2016/
>Sony’s PlayStation business, its most notable performer, saw sales decline by 11 percent year-on-year primarily due to currency changes. With 319.9 billion JPY ($3.2 billion) generated from the quarter, it was again Sony’s top performing business unit.
>Q3
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-profits-down-54-despite-strong-playstation-pe/1100-6447485/

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>>82056366
blizzard don't make the movie, it was Legendary for the most part

>>82057245
sauce on this weenie genie

>>82056932
>I read this article, and it seems like it's only talking about the Sony Play Station brand and not Sony as a whole
>article name is literally "boosts full year Sony profit"
Your a special kind of retard aren't you?

>>82057382
>article name
>meaning a fucking thing
>still thinks Playstation is Sony's only profitable division

>>82057401
>>meaning a fucking thing
yes it actually does in the civilized world
>still thinks Playstation is Sony's only profitable division
that was never part of the discussion, so I see no point why you would mention it

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>>82057106
I've said it once, and i'll say it again: Look at their fucking financial reports. You fucking idiot.

>>82057491
>that was never part of the discussion, so I see no point why you would mention it
Are you actually retarded or do you not have eyes?

>>82057741
>2014 and 2015 reports
>before the PS4 became the flagship
Now you are just being sad.

They wont.

After the first war, most of Warcraft lore is about undeath and haunted grounds rather than mystical elfs fighting green man, and China isn't a good market to sell undead to.

>>82048694
I just want a movie with Sylvanas, fuck

>>82057781
I saw it after I posted it which was a mistake on my part and I have no problem owning up to it since the Q2 I provided even says the mobile business have seen significant growth.

>>82057818
https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/er.html

You can look through these and still see that not only is the gaming division not the only divisiont hat makes money, it isn't even the biggest earner. Like i've been saying, it's fucking finance and pictures. It doesn't have to "Carry dead weight" of other divisions either.

Why are you so stupid and lazy that you can't even bother looking this shit up yourself?

>>82055313
Uh yes, it did. It probably barely broke even.

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>>82058053
You mean I should make a shoddy summary report like you did to show the exact same thing the articles I linked described of the 2016 reports but due to you being stubborn for some reason you can't accept plane fact?

Sure why not.

>>82058445
>Games only did better than Finance for one quarter of the year so somehow Games is now their biggest earner since the beginning of times and all the other years where Finance completely curbstomped all their other divisions in pure income is invalidated becasue of one quarter in 2016 where it did worse than games
>still won't admit that he was wrong when he said that games was their only profitable division
>still won't admit he was wrong when he said that games was their biggest earner
>spells plain incorrectly
>tries making it seem like he's smarter than anybody else despite all of this

I'm done here.

>>82058929
>Games only did better than Finance for one quarter of the year so somehow Games is now their biggest earner since the beginning of times and all the other years where Finance completely curbstomped all their other divisions in pure income is invalidated becasue of one quarter in 2016 where it did worse than games
Never claimed that but that doesn´t change the fact that the games division are currently their biggest source of income. Also, this entire clusterfuck started cause you can't accept the fact that that the gaming divison made profit to begin with let alone one of its most successful divisions.
>still won't admit that he was wrong when he said that games was their only profitable division
I did do it here >>82057939
>still won't admit he was wrong when he said that games was their biggest earner
How am I wrong when they currently are according to the Q3 report?
>spells plain incorrectly
Still better than not being able to read a article properly.
>tries making it seem like he's smarter than anybody else despite all of this
So I should just keep throwing ad hominems like you did ?
>I'm done here.
alright.

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>>82059111
>Never claimed that but that doesn´t change the fact that the games division are currently their biggest source of income.
For one quarter of a single year

>Also, this entire clusterfuck started cause you can't accept the fact that that the gaming divison made profit to begin with let alone one of its most successful divisions.
Proofs?

>How am I wrong when they currently are according to the Q3 report?
See two sections up

>>82059111
>Still better than not being able to read a article properly.
I never read an article incorrectly, so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're the one who refused to look at their financial reports.
Also
>a article

>So I should just keep throwing ad hominems like you did ?
It's not my fault you're retarded and said stupid shit like "games is their only earner" or "games is their biggest earner"

Kill yourself dumb ass.

>>82059386
>For one quarter of a single year
Still doesn't change the fact, silly frogposter.

>Proofs?
>>82056366
>"and are rightnow the most successful part of the company"
And you responded:
>"Video Games is actually one of Sony's least profitable divisions"

>I never read an article incorrectly, so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
So you are not >>82056932 ?
>You're the one who refused to look at their financial reports.
But I did look them and made a pretty chart like you.

>more ad hominems
alright.

>>82048694
>Will the second movie happen?
no, it flopped. it was short a hundred million from breaking even.

>Should it?
maybe? I liked the movie, but the story could have definitely been better adapted.

if it was up to me, I'd scrap all of it and just make a Warcraft 3 series of movies.

>>82059792
>no, it flopped. it was short a hundred million from breaking even.

Do you even CHINA? It made plenty to be a profit

>>82060734
see
>>82055611
Chinks took most of the dough for themselves but I disagree with the guy you replied to saying it was a total flop and not breaking even.

>>82048694
Bombed in the US but it was record breaking in China. They made a fine profit I would be shocked if they didn't do another one.

I'd prefer a Starcraft movie

>>82048694
It should. It won't.

>>82061585
china pockets around 80% of all proceeds from foreign films.

legendary thought being owned by china would allow them to sidestep that and get more money. legendary was wrong. wanda (the chinese government) pocketed their standard tariffs and fees and then asked legendary to explain why warcraft underperformed.

>>82064237
+1

>>82051058
They can never do the Arthas storyline because China wouldn't allow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pkK0f2UX_E

warcraft cg cartoon series when?

It needs to be a world of warcraft movie not a warcraft movies. With druids and cool shit like that. Orcs and humans is dull.

>>82064520
This.

If they make it like Clone Wars or Rebels, it'll be worth a watch, and a much lower investment than a feature film. Also they'd be able to cover a lot more topics.

fags dont like it because
>not muh

I think it's just one of those things that will forever be good in concept but a bit shit in execution. Possibly the only case I can think of where a game is the better medium to tell the story.

>>82051058
its not quite the star wars prequels, anakin was pushed into bad decisions because he was stupid, arthas was pushed into bad decisions because there was literally no other option.. until he killed his mercenaries in northrend. he fucked up then

>>82048773
>I don't know why you would see a big budget movie from a guy that has proven himself to be a good director

Yeah I don't know either. So weird.

>>82052870
Fuck I forgot how Kino this cinematic was

>Arthas slowly walking across the frozen landscape with beautiful music
>That scrape of steel as he draws frostmourne
.Those icicles slowly being drawn to the sword, as they match the haunting glow of his eyes
>His father's words echoing about how he's going to be a wise and just king, while his actions portray a twisted counterpart, illustrating how he's fallen

Every other cinematic
>SMASH, CRASH
>LOL MURLOCS
>WHY DO WE FIGHT!?>!?!

Blizz really jumped the shark with this.

It will happen but the second war is so shit and its pretty long, that I feel they will skip to Arthas and Thrall

>wow movie
>has Paladins in it
>big badass dudes in gold armor with glowing eyes
>fight breaks out between humans and whatever
>Paladins come in with their big 2 handers ready to bring the pain
>in the thick of the battle everyone unanimously tuns to them and starts frothing at the mouth
>FUCKING RETLOL HEAL ME YOU STUPID CUNT YOU AREN'T EVEN A REAL SPEC FUCKING KNOW YOUR PLACE HEALSLUT
>Uther starts crying visible tears as he puts on his robes of the exalted

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>>82065290
This.

>Want to play Paladin when WoW comes out because Warcraft 3 and the books made it seem like this unstoppable juggernaut of holy power, both righteous warrior and sorceror, like a Jedi or some shit
>Level as ret because questing was a nightmare as prot/holy, and I wanted my giant hammer to smash things with
>Never get invited to do dungeons and get screamed at in battlegrounds.
>No dual-spec so essentially stuck as ret Have to convince dungeon groups to bring me along because my DPS won't top the metres but I'll be serviceable and my utilities will be really helpful
>Levelling took forever so rerolling wasn't really an option so I couldn't no life the game
>Finally hit level cap and just get screamed at to fucking heal or gtfo

Man, I love Vanilla as much as the next guy but it really is looked at with rose tinted glasses considering how broken that game was in many aspects.

>>82065191
>arthas is so fucking cool he doesn't even have to look at a massive skeleton dragon rising behind him

>>82065290
Would be a lot more realistic thats for sure. The first half of the movie would be
>collect 5 X
>kill 10 Y
Then you get to end game and it's just people shouting at eachother.
>Thrall kills Garrosh
>WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD SHAMAN OP FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME

The orc scenes were surprisingly good.
The human scenes were utter trash.
I think the most logical next step would be a Lord of the Clans movie - have the events of the second war off screen - hell don't even call it that, just make it a continuation of the conflict from the first movie and say the orcs eventually lost because of the heroism of the alliance or some shit. Then Thrall redeems the orcs from Gul'dan's faggotry.

>>82066052
I can't help but feel they've really fucked up the timeline with the relatively innocuous changes they made in the first movie that would have sweeping consequences down the line.

>>82048838
I never got why people liked Arthas's story. He is the most 2D, boring character. Fucking Khadgar has a more interesting back story

>>82066131
1. He's cool
2. While yeah he is a '2d' character, he still has more depth and nuance than most Warcraft characters
3. Its a retelling of the classic tragic hero's story but in an engaging setting. People love those stories. I always thought of it as if the Star Wars prequels were done well.

>>82066101
I completely agree. That whole shit implying Medivh was Garona's father was fucking stupid
>>82066197
How is he cool? I'll give it to edgelord Illidan, but not Arthas and his whiney bullshit.

>>82066212
Skulls and Ice and generic fantasy badass shit is cool.

Also I don't know how you can say Arthas is whiny and then bring up Illidan. Arthas is the detached, lone badass kind of generic edgy whereas Illidan is more about impotent rage about how the world owes him, while he looks like some deformed furfag sextoy you'd find attached to a dragon dildo.

>>82048694
I enjoyed it and never played WoW.

Soundtrack was cool, CGI was well done, and it didnt take itself too seriously. Honestly its a fun fantasy flick, fuck critics.

>>82066275
I only brought up the comparison because they're both popular edgy characters.
To be honest the only character I liked in WC3 was Maiev, who they've turned into a fucking parody in WoW. Some others like Rexxar, Sylvanas and Kelthuzard were ok, but didn't stand out massively to me.

>>82048694

handsome boy died. not gonna watch second movie because no handsome boy. will watch if handsome boy is resurrected and in second movie.

>>82066650

He gets resurrected as ragnaros. Screencap this

>>82066559
As someone who absolutely loves the Warcraft lore, I've realized the format if an RTS then MMO are terrible for giving characters depth and development. You really have to extrapolate everything out of what little screentime they really get, leaving characters fairly flat.

Honestly the reason Arthas is beloved is the same a character like Vader is beloved.

>>82066694
Who, Llane?

>>82066694

ragnaros is not handsome. will not watch unless he's looking his handsome look.

>>82066732
While the characters didn't get much depth in 1 and 2, I personally prefer the aesthetic of those games (I've read the book adaptions too).
I actually like the old Alliance, the new Alliance is pretty pathetic desu. Anduin Lothar was their best by far.

>>82066769
I've read the books two and the fact that blizzard turned it into an MMO was a blessing and a curse.

On the one hand it was amazing (at least until wrath) to make a character in this vast world and go explore.

On the other hand now they've totally fucked story development, because now they can't do anything story wise without triggering some portion of the player base.

>>82066131
fuck khadgar in the asshole he's had 2 expansions now dedicated to his fucking retard lore. they should make an Uther movie with arthas as a supporting character.

>>82055611
Usually that would be the case but you're wrong in this case. Legendary is owned by Wanda, a Chinese company. They would get a much bigger share of the intake as a result.

>>82048694
Only if they remove the human characters.

>>82048694
I played the game for years when I was in middle school and high school. I have a lot of nostalgia and emotion for the franchise...

That being said the movie was shite.

Bad cast, bad pacing, weak third act.

The only time I got emotionally invested (which should be easy, I played the game for literally years of my life) were the parts with baby Thrall. Which makes up 3 min of the movie?

Something went horribly wrong. WTF did China see in this crap??

>>82066871
He was fine in the books. Those written before the game and during TBC.

>>82065062
>You lied to your men, and betrayed the mercenaries who fought for you! What's happening to you, Arthas?...

>generic happy ending instead of Orgrim flipping his shit and destroying Stormwind like in the game

This is the biggest offender for me. It's just a generic fantasy blockbuster with the Warcraft name on it.

>>82067092

You are the biggest offence to nature.

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Who would you cast as the various characters /tv/? Pic related would be my choice for Varian

>>82067184
Resurrect Charles Bronson and cast him as Varian

>>82067184
>>82067218

Varian should be played by a girl like Beyonce, you sexist pigs.

>>82064502
they really need to get their shit together about the whole undead thing

They had one chance and they fucked it all up.
I still liked seeing some the 'universe' on screen though the gryphons were pretty cool

>>82048773
i thought it was okay. The best bit were the orcs by far. Thats because the humans looked absolutely out of place because of cgi (the cgi was very good).

I didn't like Lothar's voice. Sounded like he was trying to copy viggo, didn't help when everyone was comparing the franchise to lotr.

Mak'gora was absolutely fucking kino.
>GULDAN IS A CHEAT

it should senpai

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>>82048694
They really should make it about class and I mean that seriously about both /pol/ class and the WoW classes,the lore is good from what I remember with pirate kings and cool shit but I never played after vanilla and I heard it went to shit.
Just show WoW classes doing class related stuff to keep the addicts happy and real politics about mass immigration not being a good thing.
I know we have to have pic related to make mass immigration a good thing but I have a follow up pic to show why it is not.

>>82067900
>he thinks class politics supports the /pol/ agenda
kill yourself

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>>82068015
I never said that...classic liberal antifa tactic tho lad,well done.
I was talking about how to make the next movie better.

>>82068119
>implying im a liberal
Get a load of this class cuck

>>82068257
liberal antifa does not mean real antifa dumbarse.
Also we need IDs on this board ever since those cunts are legit reffugees here now.

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>there will never be Sylvanas, Arthas, Jaina and Kel'Thuzad kino

>>82068119
>the rainbow is covered in skidmarks
Pottery.

>>82068319
He called me a liberal antifa

>>82048694

It's actually a pretty fun movie and even better if you're into WOW. I hope they do make a second one.

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>there will never be a culling of stratholme

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>>82068370
how the fuck would you know? without IDs this board turns into colbert fans vs Trump fans every fucking thread.

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>>82068377
My mum liked how Gul'dan life stole the deer's essence and made the blue baby green cos I was a preemie...she actually started crying and held me for about half the movie.
Thats how I learned I had 2 twins that died lads... was an emotional movie for me.

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>there will never be a 4 part kino that goes through each factions campaigns story, with an Arthas that turns evil, a Sylvanas that gets Corrupted, as sexy Waifu Jaina

why even live

the movie made me want it just so I could not have it

>>82068413
B-because it says that in his post
Did you read it?

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>>82068401
>there will never be a Ramseys kitchen knightmares version of this.

>>>82068571
who?

>>82068620
This
>>82068119

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>>82068773
literally who? I use anonimize with 4chanX, is it a trip/namefag?

>>82068816
No it's not
>I never said that...classic liberal antifa tactic tho lad,well done.
I was talking about how to make the next movie better.

>>82068325
>tfw they covered Sylvanas' mid-riff
Why live.

>>82048838
>it flopped

It's the best selling game-to-movie so far. It profited, if only barely.

>>82052711
China was the reason the movie managed to just barely do a little bit of profit. Without China the movie would have been one of the biggest movie disasters in history.

>>82053617
>Diablocraft

Kek

>>82052711
Terminator Genisys also did well in China and they still killed the sequels. I don't think most studios are desperate enough yet to rely solely on China to make a profit

>>82051058
George Lucas was hardly the first guy who invented that sort of story. The gradual corruption of good people for the greater good, is something that is as old as humanity itself. It's an inverse "The Hero's Journey". It's a popular trope for a reason.

>>82054902
Confucian ethics. The Chinese have an obession with mutual respect and family. To even see a skeleton would be to insult the sanctity of death. This was also why it was illegal for Chinamen to cut their hair during Imperial times, because anything that is on your body is a gift from your parents, and to cut it off would be a grave insult. Hence beheading and other deaths that involved dismemberment was not only an insult to the deceased but his entire family, dead ancestors included.

>>82056187
no one with a brain is buying it wong.

>>82048773
I'm a massive Warcraft fan and have played through each of the RTS entries as well as World of Warcraft since 2004 (though I have left for a year every now and then).
I'm absolutely a fan of the games, and I wasn't fussed at all with the film. Maybe a 6/10?

Just because I knew what was going on more than a stranger to the franchise, doesn't make the film any less of a mess.

>>82055111
Communism abolishes the state
They are capitalist

>>82065191
Every WC3 cinematic shits on WoW cinematics.

Khadgar was a cute. CUTE!

>>82070007
>Just because I knew what was going on more than a stranger to the franchise, doesn't make the film any less of a mess.

This. If anything, a fan should be concerned about all those things that didn't happen even though they should have or happened in an entirely different way. Blackhand was supposed to be killed by Orgrimm who gets control of the Horde and puts Gul'dan in his place. Stormwind should've been sacked. The Portal is open and spewing Orcs into the Black Morass. Garona was there when they killed Medivh. Khadgar was Medivh's apprentice (and the movie should've been about him). Durotan was no racetraitor. Sargeras, Aegwynn and the whole greater story behind the invasion gets completely ignored in favour of FEL MADE ME DO IT. No iconic WC1 units are present. No clerics, no conjurers, no warlocks or necrolytes. Not even a catapult. Orcs are too big, brown and their eyes are not red.

I enjoyed it visuals were great. Would love to watch a movie following wc3 thralls adventure it that cgi

>>82070490
As a fan the only part that really rustled my jimmies was the murder of the king. HIS RETARDED PLAN MADE NO FUCKING SENSE WHY COULDN'T GARONA BE MINDCONTROLLED BY GUL'DAN REEEEEEEE

>>82070652
To be honest the whole mind control thing was iffy from the start and only a result of basically retconning Garona into a sympathetic character. In WC1 she was just an assasin loyal to Shadow Council.

>>82068481
Didn't take much for your mum to crack though, she's kinda too emotional man.

Guldan was a fucking hack, cheated his ass out of the Makgora.

>>82052776
10/10

>>82051215
reddit

>>82051860
as much as i'd like that to happen, it seems too much for one movie. it won't leave enough time to actually appreciate the fall of Arthas and such. I'd probably let it start with infected grain and first sighting of the undead, death of kelthuzad, and then end with him getting frost mourne.

>>82048694
I certainly hope they make another but the poor performance at the box office makes it doubtful. It's a shame, too, because the movie was really comfy (at least for Warcraft fans).

if they make more, they'll probably cast a bunch of Chinese actors/actresses. like, the girl in Kong would play Sylvannas or something.

>>82052870
Someone post his ascent to the Frozen Throne with Muradin, Uther, and Jaina's voice in the background. That was fucking kino when I was like 7.

>>82074016
>end with him getting frost mourne

It should end with Mel'Ganis dead

>>82074070
Most warcraft fans hated it though, and if it's the only big budget film we're gonna get why choose such a dogshit part of the story. Literally any other arc would be better and appeal more to the general populace.

>>82075163
>Literally any other arc would be better and appeal more to the general populace.

First War would be 100% okay if they did it right.

>>82075219
>boring irrelevant characters no one recognises
>uninteresting scenery
>no obvious protagonist with interesting motives

nah it's shit and totally uneccessary for a flop to set up any backstory especially when that story is totally altered.

This movie had the worst casting i have seen in a long time.
Medivh was a sleepy hippie who phoned it in, the king was like a gypsy from the street,nothing royal about him and Khadgar was just lame. The queen was OK but i would prefer her to be Prestor for a sequel or something.
The forest skirmish was easily the best scene,the final battle and duel were shit.

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>>82075303
That's because they did it wrong. Pic related would have a classical story structure, set up all the important shit in the Warcraft universe and felt like an actual story with characters.

>no one recognizes

Speak for yourself, WoWfag

>>82075303
Due to hearthstone more normies will reognise Grom and Guldan than Arthas.

>>82048694

It has to be Arthas

>>82054966
>Garona is a half-human
Sorry, but I never got the impression they claimed she was half human. Could you point out how they implied that?

>>82075816
Back in WC1 she was half human because Gul'dan aged her up through magic.

>>82051359
>>82051364
>>82051461
>crossposting scum gets called out and starts screeching
everytime

>>82075472
Guess what, your whole franchise is unrecognisable as anything but WoW and no one gave a fuck about the story until WoW. If warcraft had continued it would be as dead as starcraft, do you think starcraft is getting a movie anytime soon kek.

>>82059568
>Still doesn't change the fact, silly frogposter.
Yes it does. One quarter of a single year does not permanently, and drastically, change life-long trends or future expectations within the company. Not even Sony thinks Games will overtake Finance as the biggest earner.

>>"Video Games is actually one of Sony's least profitable divisions"
How do you get "you just hate Sony and are mad that their games make money now" from that? That isn't even a false statement, seeing how Games JUST, as in last year, started making money again since the start of the PS3's release. It may be doing well recently, as in the last few quarters, but overall it did not do that well, and still has not recuperated all of the losses that the PlayStation division has accrued over the last decade.

>So you are not >>82056932?
No, retard. I'm not the only person who responded to your idiotic posts.

>But I did look them and made a pretty chart like you.
Yeah, and you clearly didn't even look at them properly because even in those financial reports it shows that Finance makes more money than Games. Like I've been saying since the start of this argument.

>alright.
Not an argument. Again, don't get mad at me that you made retarded posts without actually looking at the company's income on a division-to-division basis over the last few years.

Kill yourself dumb ass.

>>82076318
>as dead as starcraft
>as dead as Korea's national sport and well remembered RTS game

Getting normies into gaming was a mistake

>no one gave a fuck about the story until WoW

Except all those who were waiting for WoW

>>82048694
The lukewarm reception for the first film couldn't be helped, considering the source material and all the time wasted establishing the setting and characters. They'd be foolish to not make a sequel.

>>82051180
>Warcraft is a movie
It's barely a flick

>>82052966
Months before, actually. And his retirement has more to do with cocaine

>>82054902
It's a myth.

>>82055017
That's what you gotta do to get that sweet sweet chink moneyz.

>>82053617
That's true
fuck I feel stupid now