Is God's Not Dead 2 worth checking out? The first one was

>The first one was solid

OMG I saw you get hit by a car. I would call 911, but instead I will ask you to convert to god first.

You know there are better movie.

>>82044630
It's called having priorities.

>>82044580

>Any law allowing every human being to stay out of prison except murders is discriminatory.

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First one was garbage kino. Never bothered with second

Gospel of John is my favorite Christian film

it's good but it's not nearly as ridiculpous

>>82044713
https://youtu.be/PNwkMWa4C2g

>>82044713

See you in another life brotha.

>>82044630
he died like 30 seconds later so calling 911 wouldn't have helped and this way he gets to enter the kingdom of heaven

>>82044580
>victim complex Christian propaganda
No thanks

>>82044755
I haven't seen this yet. Any good?

>>82044799
>don't call 9-11 after getting hit by a car
>eh, prob going to die anyway
>praise Jesus!
This is legitimately autistic psycho behavior

>>82044810
It's pretty good.

>>82044929
Is there a good place to watch it? I'd buy it even since it has Henry Ian Cusick in it

>>82044807
Are you implying that Christianity isnt under attack by the MSM and others alike?
You cant even say Merry Christmas anymore.

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>try to defend Christianity against dumb fedoratards
>American Evangelicals make shit like this

>>82044580
isn't scientifically proven at this point that jesus never existed?

>>82045076
You can say Merry Christmas. Stop watching Fox News.

Upholding the integrity of separation of church and state is not attack on Christianity.

>>82045128
Nah, historically there was definitely a Jesus of Nazareth, just unlikely that he was Christ, the Son of God.

I can respect his teachings and the deeper moral meanings behind them, but it doesn't mean I believe them nor think they are "right" when compared to the thousands of other religions both extant and long-dead.

>>82045116
So called "fedoratards" only exist because they grew up in evangelical households.
When you have to deal with family and friends who act like this, and pretty much shame and shun you for being nonreligious it makes you act a bit irrational sometimes.

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>>82045076
Kek, the "Christians under attack" meme. Good one. No.

>>82045076
What happens if you say Merry Christmas?

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>>82045351
>>82044807
why did you stop being Christian? Are you mad at your parents?

>>82045373
Nothing.

>>82045401
Yup, you got me.

>>82045403
>>82045373
Most jobs where you work with the public have made it policy to say Happy Holidays. My workplace said its a punishable offense if you say it. It promotes one religion over another. Have you not seen the news? It was a big deal this last year

>>82045443
What religion is promoting, "happy holidays", buckaroonie? Also I highly doubt anyone is getting punished. You may be exaggerating.

isn't propaganda great?

>>82045443
P U B L I C

>>82045495
>You may be exaggerating.

Im not at all exaggerating. Happy Holidays is all encompassing. Merry Christmas is promoting Christianity while not being inclusive to atheists, jews, people who like kwanza and other religions out there. SJWs have made such a huge fuss that you can get written up for it.

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>>82044807

Is that the one with Professor Hercules? That block head playing a professor is just as absurd as anything in the Bible.

>>82045569
Oh, we agree. I think you are replying to the wrong person. I'm not complaining about happy holidays.

>>82045523
idk, maybe office environments would do it too. Especially if they have a fedora tipper working there who would fuss a lot

>>82045593
Oh I forgot that anyone even remotely nonreligious can't talk about how it is blatantly propaganda without a fedorafag meme getting used. My bad.

>>82045649
>not deflecting to personal insults
Works like a charm

>>82045569
Wait, you are confusing me. Are you saying that happy holidays is a problem? Your writing could go both ways.

>>82045675
Where was the personal insult...? What are you even talking about? All you did was throw a fedora meme at me.

>>82045593
He looks happier than any 4chan christian LARPer will ever be.

This movie would be better were it about the real one true god, Allah.

>>82045681
>Are you saying that happy holidays is a problem?

no, happy holidays is what is mandated we say. we are forbidden to say Merry Christmas and can be written up if caught. Its bull

>>82045569
Christmas isnt even Christian originally .Its just another fake pagan european shit added to your shitty bastardized sandnigger middle easterner religion

>>82045720
I made a similar comment and apparently the muslims and the christians share the same god

who the fuck knew that? at first I thought I was being baited but this motherfucker was persistant

>>82045757

It's a free market, get another job if you're not happy, fucking entitled shit.

>>82045720
Lol .As an arab fedora tipper , i really wouldn't recommend Muslim religious/historic movies. their bias towards islam is even worse than the meme christian movie's bias towards Christianity

>>82045757
I have never heard of a single person in the public sector literally ever getting into real trouble saying merry christmas and even so, these are state jobs. If you sperg out everytime you can't stop talking about a specifically religious holiday, that job isn't for you.

So again, I sense that you are exaggerating.

>>82045807
All Abrahamic gods are literally the same god. Jews, Muslims and Christians worship different variants of the same deity.

>>82045816
>if you dont like anti christian practices get a new job

Really?

Friendly reminder that the Christian God is of exactly the same validity as Xenu

>>82045807
not really tho Christians well at least most of them believe in their retarded trinity and that son of a whore is actually a god meanwhile the muslims just believe in one single invisible god but they also think that jesus will return and save their asses from the anti-messiah

>>82045771
>Christmas isnt even Christian originally

Nice meme

>>82045771
Correct, it is based on the Feast of the Saturnalia in Roman times, in which homage was paid to the gods for a successful harvest so that winter doesn't kill that many of them.

Hell, the feast itself is based on even older pagan holidays.

It is highly unlikely that Jesus was born in December, as the Nazarene winters can get pretty cold at night, which is not great for a baby to survive in.

>>82045895
>anti ALL religion
>somehow anti-Christian
No, that isn't how this works, kiddo. It isn't persecution you delusional retard, the same rules apply to all religious holidays.

>>82045935
That isn't a meme.

>>82045228
Nope, pretty sure there's actual evidence of the Jesus character being invented around 100 AD, taking elements of several preexisting myths.

MSM is just to embarrased to being seen as tryhard fedora edgelords if they try to popularize the facts.

>>82045500
>everything I don't like is propaganda

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>>82044713
The Ten Commandments is literally the pinnacle of Bible kino.

Modern Christian movies just don't compare. ESPECIALLY the two meme movies mentioned by OP.

why did humanity from all the based ancient gods choose a fucking degenrate Jewish son of a whore as their god

>>82045895
Yeah you fucking commie fucking shit stain, who are you to tell someone how to run their own business, you fucking cuck.

>>82045961
how is it NOT anti christian? Its not anti all religions, it pertains explicitly to Christianity and Christmas. Christians are the vast majority in the country, its was built on Christian principles

>>82046005
>this is literally Christian propaganda about made up or exaggerated legal cases to set up a persecution complex in the country with one of the single largest Christian demographics on the fucking planet
Kill yourself

>>82046019
>who are you to tell someone how to run their own business

but on the other hand I bet you think that its not OK to deny a gay couple a cake when its against your religion.

>>82044580
Schools are allowed to speak about Jesus in a historical sense. Seeing as how there's no historical evidence that the lord and saviour of all mankind ever existed besides him being mentioned in a book that's been translated, retranslated, and even rewritten a few times over the centuries, so....

>>82045992
Making shit up to try and undermine a whole religion is essentially a meme

>>82046047
im pretty sure killing the natives isnt a Christian principle

>>82046122
Where was the date of December 25th taken from? (HINT: it isn't Jesus' birthday)

>>82046047
>No religious holidays allowed in the workplace, that way nobody gets offended
>Every other religion: yeah fine
>Christians: OH MY GOD THIS IS DISGUSTING WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS PERSECUTION HOLY FUCK DONT YOU KNOW JESUS DIED FOR YOUR SINS

>>82046047
>how is it NOT anti christian?
Because the same rules apply to sll religious holidays you idiot.
>its was built on Christian principles
Kek, this meme again? So what even if it was true? We are explicitly a secular country. Just because one or two of the founding fathers believed in God doesn't change how we have strict rules about separating church and state. I'm pretty glad I don't live in a degenerate theocratic society.

These are like, "debating atheists for dummies" arguments, they are tiresome.

>>82046122
But it's not made up. You realize that people existed before Christianity, right? Where did they get pine trees in the Middle East? Where do you think most of these practices came from?

Can you even use your brain?

>>82046191
and Christians wonder why they are mocked.

>>82044580
My initial interpretation for "talk about" was "make fun of", but I doubt that's what the quote is supposed to be about right?

>>82046285
>anti-christian
wow are you ok? do you want a hug? I'm sorry little buddy didn't mean to victimise you champ.

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Anyone wonder how this thread devolved into a shitposting war with a bunch of atheists who immediately show up to every religious thread just to make a point about how much they hate Christianity?

What benefit do they get out of turning a thread into a series of shitposts and flaming? Do they get satisfaction out of being different and by telling people that their beliefs are all lies?

Is it LITERALLY just a cry for attention? Why not just discuss the movie?

>>82046074
Because that is denying someone participation in the free market based on a discriminatory practice. You need some basic regulations to prevent locking people out of the economy because "I don't like them". It's not even a sound business practice. It's like you want customers to hate you and make less money by denying people...from giving it to you.

In short, your religious freedom stops where it discriminates other Americans. If that makes you sperg, move to North Korea.

>>82045593
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

>>82046353
OP doesn't like God's not Dead. Just like you, he's an atheist baiting other atheists for (you)s

>>82045076
Why don't I have any "this is bait" memes saved

>>82046353
The thread was designed to be about shitposting.

There was never once a chance for there to be "actual discussion". Films like these are made for people who already believe in god want a movie that preaches to their beliefs.

There are likely very few people on this website that are actually devoutly religious. You would have to be a fool to expect that.

>>82046321
You aren't replying to the right posters, anon...

>>82044580
he's so hot
why are christians so fucking sexy?

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Is this the christ kino thread?
https://youtu.be/kDhujk3AGjE
>the guy's an evolutionist
*dramatic music*

>>82046416
why don't you google this is bait and have literally all the pictures you could possibly desire to meme away with immediately

>>82046353
>Christians are dindu nuffins
>WAHHHH DA MEANIE POO POO ATHEISTS DON'T AGREE WITH ME ON A PUBLIC FORUM!! SAVE ME JESUS!

>>82046353
99% of Christians on 4chan are ironic

>>82046411
What makes you think I'm an atheist? Because that's absolutely false.

>>82046426
I'm religious, but I hate this movie because of how shitty it is. >>82046007 is an example of a good, classic Christian movie.

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>>82046426
>There are likely very few people on this website that are actually devoutly religious.
And with that, summer begins.

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Hey 4chan!

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>>82044580
>What makes non-violence so radical is its unwavering commitment to a non-violent approach

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>>82046531
>I'm religous
Oh ok you're just fucking stupid then. Have a nice day.

>>82046004

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

I dunno man, there are a lot of reputable sources here claiming he did indeed exist. He was clearly mythologized and put into legendary status because of the religion of course, and so his actual exploits must be taken with a grain of salt.

>>82046534
I'd like to know what kind of devoutly religious person spends his time calling people niggers and kikes on a burmese knitting bbs

unless that religion is shitposting

>>82045116
What you need to do is stop defending Christianity as a whole and start defending Catholicism specifically. Protestantism is a lost cause.

>>82046651
>Catholicism specifically.

Literal man made doctrine

>>82046641
Thanks for proving the point I made here >>82046353

>>82046670
Just like any other

>>82044770

>see you in my second life brotha

>>82046636
10/10 writing

>>82046353
Religion is the most prominent symptom of utter ignorance which is the root cause of everything bad happening in the world. People unwilling to entertain the idea of being wrong, are unable to attain truth and hinder the betterment not only of themselves but of humanity.

There are other false prophets claiming knowledge and fostering dogmatic ideologies that harm progress and introduce more suffering into the world. Ignorance is ubiquituous, be it within atheists who do not question or 'scientists' who merely like Facebook posts.

But truly doubt and you may improve yourself.

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>>82046647
>Christians wouldn't call blacks niggers or be antisemitic
KEK

>>82046702
No, I'm just calling you stupid because it makes you mad lol

>>82046758
I wish I were this enlightened by my own intellect!

>>82046804
Instead you are enlightened by the intellect of 2000 year old goat farmers

>>82046769
They wouldn't be very good Christians otherwise

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>>82046796
In doing so, you proved my point.

>>82046852
I don't hate christianity I just think its mad dumb

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>>82046824
Excellent post my friend, I am screenshotting this my friend.

>>82046838
That doesn't stop them from being Christian, Mr. Scotsman. Just makes them racists or antisemites...who are also Christians.

>>82046901
>dumb nigger who follows the lions

It just gets even better and better

Serious question, is anyone else here an atheist with atheist parents? I don't care much about religion in general and I feel like the fedora tippers all grew up in religious households.

God created this world in 7 days. He created the sun on the 4th day. You better fucking believe days existed before the sun did or our Lord and Saviour will kick your teeth in.

>>82046647
>entire faith literally revolving around blaming Jews
so many fired neurons

>>82046933
Why would a nonreligious kid who had nonreligious parents have any reason to care about someones religion?

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>>82046926
>being racist
So this is the "moral superiority" atheists claim to have

>>82046973
>living in or around detoilet

Im not surprised you would pray to god every night.

>>82046973
Are...are those bacon strips on the back?

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>>82046992
Racism is a sin, anon.

That explains why atheists are so casually racist, they don't see the value in our fellow man.

>>82046933
Do you know how prevalent religious fundamentalism is in the US? There are creation museums.

>>82046804
You know you're championing a lost cause when 'enlightened intellect' is something to be made of.

>Look at him! He's being intelligent!
>Wow, what a retard!
>Yeah! Lol

>/tv/ is so contrarian that they convert to Christianity
Yeah that'll show Reddit!

>>82047094
>he thinks that was an intelligent post
I guess you aren't smart enough to understand why you are being mocked

>>82047104
poes law

>>82046944
Can I get a Christian loredump on this please?

>>82047094
This is how I can tell you're new

>>82047104
>just because I'm not a Christian means that no one else is Christian!
Delusional

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>>82046095
The amount of people who were firsthand witnesses to the existence of Jesus (including who were then accepted execution before denouncing what they knew Jesus is staggering. Try looking at Ecclesiastical History by Eusebius, a 4th century compilation of those who witnessed these executions "documented by Dionysius of Corinth (~170 A.D.), Tertullian (~ 200 A.D.) and Origen (~ 230 – 250 A.D.). Josephus (~ 95 A.D., Hegesippus (~ 165 – 175 A.D.) and Clement of Alexandria (~ 200 A.D.)". Just because you do not believe that Jesus Christ was your savior does not mean you should skimp on doing minor research- I haven't even mentioned Jewish accounts of someone named Jesus of Nazareth.

s: https://christianapologistweb.wordpress.com/2017/04/16/an-extra-biblical-case-for-christianity/?frame-nonce=8ecd0103c4

>>82047213
You'd love Spain my man, there's shit loads of Jesuses over there

>>82047176
>Delusional
More likely baffled that anyone who has access to the internet would still be a christian.
This isnt 1950 where you are explicitly a product of your environment.

When the inevitable questions about your faith come up, they dont get shooed under the rug by your pastor anymore. You can use the internet and look past the echo chamber and see other points of view

>>82047176
So you're the same as those "Atheist Muslims" who don't actually follow the tenants of their own religion?

You can't go on 4chan if you're actually a Christian. Sorry, doesn't work.

>>82045128
You can't really prove a negative bro.

>>82047280
I can prove there isn't a poo in my pants with a simple photo

>>82046553
JESUS

>>82047341
...MAN

>>82047126
Oh, so it WAS just an ironic comment on how tryhard intelligent my post was?

Feel free to elaborate on your point before I make another wrong assumption. Which side of the argument are you standing on?

I could've just as easily upped the irony(shitposting?) layer and replied with the same statement to your post. Instead I'm being sincere.
Religion deserves to be attacked.

>>82047249
>it's baffling that not everyone on the internet is part of my tiny minority anti-God religion

>>82047213
God you are retarded, writings from 100+ years after an event are not contemporary.

Pointing to people who wrote accounts of people who supposedly had accounts of people who knew a guy is not evidence.
It's the same reason we can't be 100% sure Socrates was a real person as described.

>>82047371
>Religion:the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
>anti-god religion

excuse me anon I'm going to need some further explanation

>>82046824

I disagree with you but I had to laugh at this.

>>82047267
I wasn't aware this was a safe space for atheists, sorry.

>>82047371
>bandwagon fallacy

Could have easily avoided that with a good search

>>82047267

>Le intellectual rule maker

>>82045675
and the fedora meme isn't exactly that?

>>82047402
>excuse me anon I'm going to need some further explanation

They just "interpret" the definition of a so called "atheist" to where its a religion based upon faith itself. Its convenient to attack that way instead of acknowledging its just a synonym for nonreligious.

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>>82047402
atheism is just as much based on faith as Christianity

>>82047415
It's a fallacy to say that it's not surprising that there are Christians on the internet when it's the most popular religion on Earth?

>>82047267

>mommy... the dumb Christians are raiding my hugbox! Send up my tendies...

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Why strive for heaven when I am always open, even on Christmas?

>>82047412
>>82047454
I didn't make the rules, God did. Consult your holy book and see if it approves of a website that features adultery, bestiality, homosexuality, and pedophilia.

>>82047483
>>82047489
I'm going to be honest I keked hard, that anon saw you coming from a fucking mile off

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>>82045569
I fucking love celebrating Christmas.

I love getting together with family and friends and exchanging presents.
I love decorating Christmas trees and singing carols.

Every thing I mentioned has NOTHING to do with Christianity.

Atheist here. Christmas rocks.

>>82047489
>atheism is just as much based on faith as Christianity
How so?

>>82047489
That's got to be a troll image right, the complete lack of rationale is amazing.

>>82047522
How do you claim to speak for God if you're an atheist?

Seriously guys can somebody please fucking explain to me how there were somehow 3 days before God created the sun?

>>82047588
Its a quote from the movie, and the movie is serious in tone

>>82047610
The infallible word is right in the bible

>>82047522

Thanks for clarifying. You truely are a supreme gentleman

>>82047614
>>82047588
serious in tone but ultimately unintentionally hilarious if you don't believe

There's this muslim girl who converts to Christianity and her dad disowns her

>>82047557
I guess if you acknowledge something before someone says it that means it isn't true

>>82047561
>God doesn't exist
>how do you know? can you prove it?
>uh, I just do

>>82047610
I'm not speaking for God, I'm stating that the Bible decries what I have listed out.

Also, I should correct you: I'm not atheist, I'm agnostic.

>>82047640
Why do you care what the Bible says? Are you obsessed?

>>82047522

Na... no specific rules about websites... I checked.

>>82046095
>that's been translated, retranslated, and even rewritten a few times over the centuries

You were almost correct, but that part is a meme.

>>82047665

>agnostic

Full retard

>>82047653
>>God doesn't exist

The lack of a belief in god does not claim "god doesnt exist"
Unless of course you are a dishonest christian who ignores literally everyone who tries to tell you this, simply so you can spout off about how atheists really are.

>>82047651
>>82047614

It's like an atheist wrote the movie from the perspective of a shitty televangelist as a parody

>>82047667
Atheists tend to know a lot about the bible, more than Christians, on average.

You know, from actually doing research.

>>82047711
Why's that? I'm open to the idea of a higher power, but I'm not happy with any organized religion I experienced.

>>82047653
>God exists
>have evidence?
>uhhh

>>82046651
I'm a Catholic, and I think the problem starts with us. Some of the medieval religious philosophers seem to be where the ridiculousness of Protestantism originate from. Eastern Orthodox doesn't seem to have that issue, but maybe its only because I'm looking at it from the outside. Also, Anabaptists seem cool, they're the only Protestants I can fully respect, even if they lack apostolic succession.

>>82047753
You seem awfully obsessed with trying to prove Christians wrong, honey.

>>82047786
faith, same as an atheist

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>>82047800
>honey
I desperately hope you are trans, because if not, how embarrassing.

>>82047833
>being skeptical of the lochness monster existing takes faith

>>82047833
Or the acceptance that the universe is under no obligation to make sense to you

>>82046758
>ignorance which is the root cause of everything bad happening
C'mon man, how am I supposed to take you seriously after reading this. Your humanism is just the religious ideology condensed down without the supernatural aspects

>>82047833
>I have faith that I don't have faith

>>82047833
Atheists actually just say "I don't believe you care to provide evidence?"
>gotta have faith bro

>>82047834
Huh? What are you going on about now, honey?

>>82047862
Atheism is a positive denial of gods, not simply being skeptical. All positives require either facts or faith.

>>82047918
>Atheism is a positive denial of gods
Lol nope.

>>82047708
They've certainly been translated out of other languages.
The dead sea scrolls don't make any fucking sense or any basis in reality, for instance.
Retranslated is probably debatable, but languages change and the span of time and geography that Christianity encompassed, plus all the different denominations and interpretations, I'd call it close enough.
Rewritten, definitely. Things added, removed, references still remain to passages that got removed, etc. Plus most of the stories were collected over long periods of time, derivative of ones that came before it.

>>82047918
>Atheism is a positive denial of gods

Thats called Anti-Theism, honey.
But you can keep pretending otherwise, saying that its just people "mad at god" and what not.
Doesnt make you right, and it doesnt make your inane arguments any better

>>82047918
so wait are you telling me that the lochness monster DOES exist? I fucking knew it - my mate Dan told me I was full of shit but I swear to Christ mate we were out there fishing and I fucing saw it and I said "Dan! LOOK! There's the Lochness Monster!" and he said "now don't be shitting me mate, you know that doesn't exist because I have faith that it doesn't exist". I can't wait to see that smug pricks face when I tell him I was right and he was wrong. He's gonna get so fucking mad!

>>82047959
>mad at God
You're the only one bringing that up, honey. Freudian slip?

>>82048017
>Freudian slip?

Just a very typical argument, akin to arguing semantics over labels of the nonreligious.

>>82048000
why do atheists think these non sequiturs help them prove a point?

>>82048000
No one said you couldn't be skeptical, but it isn't the same as a positive denial.

>>82045373
The joooos kills you are mom

>>82044891
Yet it happened
Who's autistic now

>>82048063
>looking for a point in a shitpost
This must be how the Bible gets such good mileage

BOOM It was a two-parter bitch, my superior atheist mind has outwitted the poor weak-minded god fearer once again. One strand of bait and hook line and sinker the theist cannot resist.

>>82045401
>tfw my parents are atheists so I never had a chance
I hate having to wear this stinking fedora.

>>82048073
What makes God (Christian version) more likely to exist than Zeus?

>>82046534
I mean as of 2004-2010 that was definitely true. Now, there's probably less autists.

>>82048073
Imagine a hypothetical for me, if you will.

Your name is Patrioloni and you are part of Awa, a tribe of unconnected people deep in the Amazonian rainforest. You have had zero connection to the outside world, no knowledge of Christianity or belief. One day when you are out hunting you slip, break your neck and die and go straight to hell because you didn't believe in a Christian god that you didn't know existed.


Kind of a dick move on god's part right?

>>82045076
A very merry Christmas to you and yours anon

>>82048195
Who said anything about Zeus or arguing if God exists, honey? I just want to know why you are equating skepticism with a positive denial.

>>82047402
There are religions without God(s), or even religions where God(s) exist, but aren't important. In your case, you appear to be some sort of atheist humanist, i.e. Someone who has kept the feel good ideological mechanisms of religion and replaced God with Humanity. Your Ideal Humanity has been corrupted by what you see as ignorance and so you zealously defend what you see as ignorance spreading. I might be off, since I'm going off of typical fedorafaggotry I've encountered online, but I suspect this is why fedorafags cling to the term science as if it is the end-all-be-all to discussion without ever becoming or trying to become knowledgeable on whatever topic has enflamed their fedorafaggottry.

>>82047489
>most popular religion on Earth
I thought that's Islam?

>>82048333
Didn't the pope say that you go to heaven even if you don't believe in God as long as you're not a complete dick?

>>82044580
Replace talk with draw, and Jesus Christ with Mohammed

>>82048333
What does that have to do with my post?

>>82048418
How does he know?

>>82047711
I like the agnostics more than the atheists.

>>82048436
Nothing.

It's a genuine theological question and you appeared to be a genuine theist so I thought I'd ask you.
If you don't like to think about it or what it means for your belief, that's cool too.

>>82048418
The pope is just a dude, People just ignore him if he says anything they disagree with.
(As seen with Francis v. Trump during the election)

>>82048418
(((Pope)))

>>82048418
Yeah but the Pope covered up for hundreds of Child molestors so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRDfut2Vx0

>>82048513
"Agnostics" are answering the wrong question

>>82048417
False.

The most popular religion on earth is the one that worships my dick.
Or to be specific: 99% of the worlds inhabitants believe that my penis is the great and omnipotent creator of the universe.
And the 1% that doesn't believe are well known to be complete retards.

>>82048354
Because you are not merely skeptical of the existence of Zeus. You can say with pretty high certainty that he doesn't exist. Same with God.

>>82048500
He's the Vicar of Christ

>>82048547
Thus proving that there is NOTHING WRONG with banging kids.

Atheist retards get BTFO thread #1226. Bury yourself in your immoral lifestyles and burn in hell you degenerates.

>>82048585
I'm gonna need some empirical evidence on that, Anon.

>>82048513
Depends on how you define God. If it's some fancy esoteric being, then you are agnostic. The God that 90% of Christians believe in, that is an active presence on the world and humanity, you can say pretty easily that is not real.

>>82047376
lol, do you even know how to read? Contemporary accounts of Jesus of Nazareth? What the hell does that mean??
The person I replied to claimed that there was no evidence outside of the Bible that Jesus existed. As far as I can tell, since no one else has a real argument other than to call one another retarded, I'm the only person in this string of replies who has used any sort of relevant, real information.

>>82048624
>Bury yourself in your immoral lifestyles

It's really, really fun you know.
Really can't stress enough how fucking great the degenerate life is.

>>82048518
I can't answer that question for you, I'm not all-knowing.

>>82048588
Why are you telling me what I am affirmative about?

>>82048624
If we've been BTFO why haven't I received a genuine answer for
>>82048333
or even how there were somehow 3 days before the sun was even created

>>82045569
>who like kwanza
No one like Kwanzaa it's a made up holiday somebody in America invented.

>>82048155
What?

>>82048678
because you're asking the wrong questions it's like what a retard would ask. what you must do is find it within yourself to answer the questions you seek and not rely on a parrot fad like atheism.

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>>82048627
Statistics don't lie.

>>82047918
>Atheism is a positive denial of gods
No it isn't, you're an idiot

>>82048513
>not realizing that Agnostic Atheist is also a thing
master race tbqhf

>>82048949
Why isn't it, honey?

>>82048646
Again, are you retarded?
A bunch of shit written hundreds of years after the fact and are totally unverifiable is not a "firsthand witness."

Familiarize yourself with modern standards of evidence.

>>82044580
>The first one was solid but it had a great cast.
Solid shit you mean?

>>82048930
>you're asking the wrong questions because we can't answer these ones with the Bible

other than the sun meme the Amazonion tribe question is a legitimate theological question, you can tell me to "find the answers within myself" - I have and it reeks of bullshit. Why don't you search inside yourself and tell me why god created all people and then decided to only allow a proportion of them into heaven based on nothing more than geography.

>why wont people let me passive agressivly force my religion on others the movie

>>82048369
You replied to some anon but the stuff about ignorance makes me think that you are mistaking me for that anon.
I'm the one who wrote about religion being the symptom of ignorance. Not much else.

I'm not a fedorafag and I don't indulge in fedorafaggotry anymore, excelt for the occasional thread replies when I feel like it.

There's nothing feel good about my philosophy. I wish we could reach some kind of ideal not out of altruism, but just to make this life more fun.

I do like science but I'm not deluded to think that my understanding of most things goes beyond popular science, unfortunately.

I just think there's a lot of suffering inherent to the basic conditions of life and a lot of unnecessary suffering that spreads and makes it all even more miserable. If everyone would know, we might be easier on each other. Maybe there'd be improvements.
I don't want zealousness. If everyone would truly doubt and question everything, there'd be no zealots and arguably much less room for conflicts.

>>82048930
>>82048676
You keep going on circles and can't answer a simple question like what makes God more plausible than the others people believe in.

These movies are a fucking disgrace to christ/bible kino

I've always wondered regarding these threads if anyone who advocates religion actually are religious, and are not just baiting the fedora wearing atheists.

There are over 2 billion "Christians" on Earth, and over 1 billion "Muslims." Quit acting like you faggots are under attack and being lined up and on shot on the streets of Miami.

>>82049226
Everybody has to be a victim now. Get with the times anon.

>>82049102
The first reply isn't me, honey

>>82049124
>christ
>kino
Pick one

>>82049179
It's hard to tell, some people seem to get butthurt about it(both sides)
I just do it cause it's fun and atheism is really pretty easy to defend anyway.

>>82049648
I find this fun too, I like being a devout bible-basher for one anon and then 30 seconds later I'll be tipping the fedora for a different anon

>>82049039
Okay, you're a good lad anon. I can deal with anyone as long as they're not self-righteous. I'm probably coming off as a cunt, but for some reason people take up things in a self-righteos way that to no end pisses off people. I just wish people would just do themselves and the things they care about without going into an ego trip

>>82048963
I'm cool with that tbqh

>>82049807
Thank you anon.

I feel like too many people miss the whole point of religion (both atheists and the religious). To me, its not so much believing in God, but becoming a person that God can believe in, to put it in a rough sense

>>82049938
>be atheist
>don't believe in being a person that a god you don't believe in can believe in

>>82047213
A compilation of propaganda by a christard apologist is proof now apparently.

>>82044755
Is that just a remake of the Billy Connolly moive "The Man Who Sued God"?

>>82046646

Did you even read your own source? Stating that because the story of Jesus involves his execution as "proof" is absolute nonsense

>>82045076
>You cant even say Merry Christmas anymore.
Yeah no shit it's April, wait about 8 months then you can say it

>>82045373
It'll be extremely jolly.

>>82049846
Most logical position and best place to sit, shiggidtydiggity.

>>82045076

Would you rather say Happy Sol Invictus day? Considering it was the holiday that was replaced by Christmas

>>82047489
You're are right in saying that not one can disprove or prove god is real. But when millions of people, nations and "organized groups" make rules about who is right about this "god", how you should behave and what the "rules" of the universe are. You're god exists in a state of paradox.

Yet you behave that your paradox is law. Sure there are bandwagon atheists that are no better than you are. But there are those of us who would like to see religions of all types keep to themselves when it comes to god and stop fucking up life for the rest of us.

>>82050052
It's my perspective. Its also why I don't get too hot and bothered when people make it all about belief. Its not even a question to me, and believing isn't really all that important on its own. Its the process to salvation and the afterlife that is my main concern and worry.

>>82050354
The best place is the sit is the place that is worst to the best of us to sit in the best of the place to sit

>>82045757
If they punished you they would be punishing you for your religious beliefs which is religious discrimination and illegal

>>82050466
...right.

>>82049020
>you can tell me to "find the answers within myself" - I have and it reeks of bullshit.
maybe because your soul is corrupted by years of sniffing the atheist drug.

>>82049020
>the Amazonion tribe question is a legitimate theological question
It really isn't. What do you think the Church's position on all the people who died before Christ? That they all went straight to hell for all eternity, too? You would only ask that question if you were nearly completely theologically ignorant.

>>82045373
you get fucking like killed man on the spot
they just shoot you and don't even bury the fuckin' body.

>>82050372
it's the small minority groups that are telling the overwhelming Christian minority what they can't do, not the other way around

>>82054354
No it isn't, retard. You don't get the right to complain when you have seeped into every level of government.

>>82054354
Name one thing you could do as a Christian before that you can't do now. Literally name one fucking thing.

>>82054789
hold an optional prayer in school
put up a Nativity Scene in the town common

>>82045128
The problem is more subtle, there were lots of Jesuses about, it was a growth industry.
The Life of Brian is more or less historically valid.

>>82055028
>hold an optional prayer in school
You can still pray in school. I do it all the time before I eat at my dining hall
>put up a Nativity Scene in the town common
Proof that you can't do this either. Also pleb Christian for choosing the Nativity scene over the stations of the cross and the crucifixion for your example

>>82055028
>hold an optional prayer in school
He said name something you could do before that you can't do now.
In the past those prayers were mandatory, same as the pledge of allegiance. It's called indoctrination.

>>82046636
Damn, Sabrina grew into a hefty suburban pig. She looks like she's works for fucking HOA or something.

God's not Dead is like a graveyard of 90s celebrities.

>>82055028
>hold an optional prayer in school
This needs to constantly be explained to you idiots; students can pray to whoever they want, whenever they want. A SCHOOL can't. So nope.
>put up a Nativity Scene in the town common
Is the town common public property? You can't put up religious iconography on public property, this goes for all religions. Sorry that communities done with your special 0privileges and actually enforcing federal laws makes you sperg.

So far, you have not mentioned one real thing that you are being denied as a Christian.

>>82055421
>mentioned 2
>b-but those don't count because I don't think you should be allowed to do that, even though the overwhelming majority of people in a democracy thinks you should be allowed to

>>82055684
We don't live in a mob rule, anon. It doesn't matter how many of you fucks there are, you don't get to decide law based on your beliefs. You are being autistic, if the town commons is on public property then no. You are absolutely never allowed to post a religious scene there. This goes for every faith. You have private property? Do it there. You realize that this protects your freedoms, right? This is to protect your rights to worship without the state intervening. If your problem is separation of church and state, move to a theocracy.

You still have not mentioned a single thing you were able to do before that you can't now.

>>82055684
Faggot, we have the Bill of Rights for a reason - so dipshits like you can't put the Pope on the ballot.
Take your theocracy bullshit to Iran.

>>82055684
>mentioned 2
You were wrong about both.
>b-but those don't count because I don't think you should be allowed to do that
PUBLIC PROPERTY
>even though the overwhelming majority of people in a democracy thinks you should be allowed to
Democracy is not a mob rule you dumb faggot.

>>82055845
>>82055888
>>82055903
and yet those things were both allowed until the 1960's, but yea it's "clearly" unconstitutional

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ITT we post a true religionkino

I got this mixed up with Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas, both move the goalposts quite a bit desu and both are fucking nutso as fuck

not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with being Christian, just don't be THIS level of Christian, the type that demonize everyone they don't agree with

These movies are both awful. But I understand the motivation behind them. There is a legitimate, growing hatred of Christianity in modern media. Of course it hasn't reached the levels of "you can't say merry christmas!" the way Fox News claims it does, but I strongly believe that if this type of treatment was given to any other belief system or ethnic group, that the media would be up in arms.

These are misguided silly attempts to combat that movement. Just like "Christian Rock" is a misguided silly attempt to combat "A BITCH NIGGA, THAT'S THAT SHIT I DON'T LIKE".

>>82055946
>and yet those things were both allowed until the 1960's
What are you talking about? We have had separation of church and state since this country was founded. The laws about public properties have never changed. And public schools have never been churches, anon.
>but yea it's "clearly" unconstitutional
It was and is. That's why we made a definitive ruling on public schools to get this issue finally settled and we have upheld it ever since. Sorry you don't like democracy when it doesn't pander to your faith. Again, students can pray in school all they want, the school cannot lead or organize that prayer. This was what the ruling was about in the 60s.

Please tell me you understand the difference.

>>82055966
Great movie, but it isn't really a religious film for Christians.

>>82055946
>I hate freedom when it doesn't give me privileges

>>82055946
>but yea it's "clearly" unconstitutional

The government was doing shit that it wasn't supposed to be doing, so when the case went to The Supreme Court they declared that the shit that the govt was doing was unconstitutional. Supreme Court's purpose is to determine what is Constitutional and what isn't, so if they deem a law unconstitutional, it is by the definition, CLEARLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Maybe you should start paying attention in school, instead of the church - maybe you'll learn something about American legal system, instead of the myths written by the middle east goat farmers

>>82056137
right, it was finally settled after being allowed for 200 years

>Sorry you don't like democracy when it doesn't pander to your faith
>a handful of judges with political agendas going against an almost unanimous public opinion is democracy
right

>>82056036
I have literally never seen a Christian film where the atheist wasn't a horrible monster, a dryg addict, wife beater or demonstrable person. Their faith tells them that these people are literally bad people. I can't see how they would be able to reconcile that.

>>82056359
>>a handful of judges
Sorry the US Constitution isn't to your liking, you redcoat papist faggot

>almost unanimous public opinion
wow who would have guessed that a christfag could be this delusional

>>82056359
>right, it was finally settled after being allowed for 200 years
These schools were doing shit that completely went against constitutional law, so they ruled on it, decided it wasn't constitutional. That's how the Supreme Court works.
>a handful of judges with political agendas going against an almost unanimous public opinion is democracy
right
Again, we don't live in a mob rule kiddo. I guess the root of your issue is that we have a Supreme Court? Go fuck yourself. I'm even certain that those judges are mostly Christian themselves. I think you just don't understand how our laws work. Just go move to a theocracy.

You ever going to give me an example of something real, that you could do before that you can't do now?

protestants were a mistake

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>>82056359
>REEEE GIVE ME SPECIAL EXEMPTIONS FROM THE LAW REEEEE!
I'm so sick of this religious "gibme dat" and I can't wait until it ends for good.

>>82056486
do you even know what papist means?

and yes there is still overwhelming support for allowing school prayer

>>82056549
>the constitution works one way in 1950 and another way in 1960
So I guess you agree with every ruling by the SCOTUS?

>>82056958
>the constitution works one way in 1950 and another way in 1960
The Constitution (capital "C", it is a document with a title) is vague enough to allow for interpretation of application, which is literally the function of the Supreme Court. Separation laws were vague considering specific school-related cases, so that demanded a legal precendence. Supreme Court observed the application of Constitutional law for the case, deemed it was wrong to have schools lead in religious prayer. For the third time, a student can pray and do whatever he/she wants, the ruling protected the religious freedoms of STUDENTS to prevent state authorities to impose themselves on them.

It literally was a ruling that protected you, you stupid retard.

So I guess you agree with every ruling by the SCOTUS?
I agree with a good portion of them, yes. Especially in examples where the law is less nebulous, like with fucking church and state.

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>>82056958
>a Christian majority made it hard to rule on cases of seperation of church and state
>Supreme Court finally does, Christians throw a sperg fit.
>"WAHHHHH NOT MUH PRIVILEGES!"
color me shocked.

>>82056613
shut up cuckolick

>>82056958
>and yes there is still overwhelming support for allowing school prayer
And nobody cares. We are not a mob rule.

>>82057683
orthodox

>>82057483
*precedence

>>82046462

>A RICH CHRISTKINO FILM

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>>82044580
>The first one was solid

>>82045373
the ANTI-CHRIST gestapo jackboot their way over to you and ask you to spit on the bible

if you don't they brand you with the number of the beast and eat out your asshole

>>82045675
did you read the post you replied to
I think you may have misclicked.

>>82045569
I work retail in fucking Commiefornia and have never even gotten so much as a weird look for saying merry Christmas.

>>82058978
Sounds great

>>82059092
>COMMIFORNIA
you realize these buzzwords make you look silly, right /pol/?

>>82056186
it actually definitely is
unless you define "films for christians" as "feel-good pap" which is pretty limitting

it'd be like saying rom-coms are the only real "human films for humans"

>>82056186
most religionkino isn't

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>This thread

Day by day, more people are stray away from God. Just what went wrong?

>>82059130
I think it might have been tongue-in-cheek.

>>82059130
I think the poster you were replying to ironically adopted the goofy buzzwords as a light form of self deprecation for humorous effect

>>82059230
>>82059231
>00:56:19
hivemind

>>82059227
God is a meme.

>>82059133
It's about a murder and his losing grip with his own faith...how is that "Christkino"?

>>82059227
Technology made people smarter.

>>82059401
it's not about the murderer
it's about the priest, and his relationship with and duty to his congregation
all set against the backdrop of the church's relationship with the public at large

>>82059553
The emotional center of the film is the priest, his depression and his faith. The message of the film isn't really pro-Christian, it spends most of its time being introspective to his own pain and breaking away from his beliefs.

Did you watch the fucking thing? Does anyone actually watch films here on /tv/?

>>82059622
>it's about the murderer
>actually it's about the priest and all that stuff you said, and he is introspective
>did you even watch the movie?

what did he mean by this???

>>82045128
Nope, you can only reasonably doubt the story of Jesus since the bible is full of glaring contradictions and inconsistencies. There's also a visible fabrication to get him from being born in Nazereth to being born in Bethlihem. The fabrication in itself in my opinion prooves that some charismatic desert schizophrenic existed. But Mystics were so common in both in that era and in the bible that revelation borders on a banality. Same goes for virgin births and resurrections.

It's all bullshit.

>>82059674
The murder is the inciting incident of the story, yes. The THEMES are about the priest and his fading beliefs. I'm sorry I even mentioned the murder that happened in the film, fuck.

>>82045401
>Implying this is a weakness in taking the position of an Atheist.

>>82059674
>it can't be about both
>what are complementary themes?

>>82045935
Not a Meme Anon

Objective truth.

>>82044799
you doing a bit or are you actually a jesusfag?

How don't you get that he's just a meme that got out of control. There is no heaven and time doesn't exist.

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>>82048155
the movie

>>82059401
I think, although he was struggling with his faith, by the end of the movie he found it

>>82044580
I swear the "Christians" on this board get more triggered then the most sensitive fundementalist Muslim. Only instead of drawing a picture of Mohammad, it's about saying how Christmas is appropriated from a pagan holiday.

Emperor Constantine made a mistake.

>>82059945
Isn't that the part you can argue is interpretative?

>>82059893
I don't think you know what the word "objective" means.

>>82059893
>>82060134
Oh sorry anon, I read the wrong post you were responding to. My bad. Yeah, you are right.

>>82059935
w-what is she doing...?

>>82048513
essentially every atheist is agnostic you dip.
>>82048979
If you are asocial, you are without proper social tact. You are without proper social mores.

If you are atheistic, you are without theism. You are without belief in any gods.

It isn't "positive denial" of gods, it's lack of belief in them. Do you believe in Zeus or Ra? Atheism is like not believing in them, and also Yahweh.

Antitheism is closer to what you're thinking.

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>>82060215
being art

>>82060291
Does that like, release endorphins by touching your ear and doing that? Is this a thing?

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>>82060364
idk

>>82059739
>There's also a visible fabrication to get him from being born in Nazereth to being born in Bethlihem.
Bethlehem was where he was born, but he grew up in Nazareth. Not really hard to comprehend

>>82060012
>Christmas
This gets on my nerves, too. Christmas is a big holiday, yes, but the most important one for Christians should be Easter

>>82060235
>atheist is agnostic
Nope, there's a difference between scepticsm and hard, outright denial

>>82060235
>Antitheism
Antitheism means being against God. As in you see God as an enemy or nemesis

>>82060627
It is being against religions, not their deities friendo.

>>82060577
atheism isn't hard outright denial. antitheism is. atheism is without belief in any god. You're a monotheist. You're one away.

And essentially every atheist is an agnostic atheist. I'm more that willing to be converted. I don't deny anything. I've read the bible and koran and studied a fair amount of religion. It's all a goof. God and the afterlife are memes. You're just afraid it'd be a bummer to acknowledge that.

>>82060696
That's antireligious, then. Learn the meaning of words.

>>82060757
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitheism

>Antitheism (sometimes anti-theism) is the opposition to theism.[1][2] The term has had a range of applications. In secular contexts, it typically refers to direct opposition to the belief in any deity.

It would have taken you three minutes to look up, retardo.

>>82060627
>Antitheism means being against God.
You can't be against things you don't believe exist.
See:
>>82060946