Thoughts on the impending writers strike? http://variety.co

>>82011134
unions are cancer

File: 1476398928832.png (47KB, 498x499px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 498x499px

>>82011134
The spoken word is film's worst enemy

It's time for those nerds to comprehend that

>>82011134
There's nothing I like on tv now and I think it would be funny if it crippled shit like Walking Dead and Game of Thrones.

>>82011134
good.
television and film must be stopped.

>damon lindelof is upset he didn't get paid as much as he thought he deserved to ruin:
>tomorrowland
>cowboys and aliens
>prometheus
>world war Z
>Star trek: into darkness

>>82011134
better get your chips into youtube because people are gonna start blowing up as a result of this

someone tell me why they're striking im too lazy to find out on my own

Will Better Call Saul get even slower? Maybe we'll get a Mike goes to the proctologist episode.

>>82011134
no more late night shows. hype

>>82011152
Spoken like a true bootlicker piece of shit that never worked a day in his whole worthless life.

>>82011152

This.
I just hope it fucks with Capeshit shows or movies and really does damage to the MCU.

WHO FUCKING CARES

File: 1462599271617.png (54KB, 470x698px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 470x698px

>>82011152
this
>3 months as a kid teachers union was on strike
>le don't get paid enough to babysit 7 hours a day
>teachers would tell us "how dey do it fo da keeds"

>>82011134
Doesn't mean shit. They are just giving the execs to go ahead strike if the negotiations don't go anywhere. This vote happens regularly and it's always pro strike, just so the guy negotiating can use it when asking studios for more money for writers.

If any of you have any writing talent, now is the time to head to LA and SCAB SCAB SCAB.

>>82011134
oh noo

>>82011582

they deserve more money for supplying you with hours of entertainment so get ready for more invasive advertising

How do I become a television writer?

>the writers of:

>batman vs superman
>iron fist
>captain america: civil war
>luke cage
>jessica jones
>supergirl
>the flash tv show
>arrow
>supernatural
>fargo
>the various flavors of law and order

>feel they weren't paid enough for their """""quality""""" work

>>82011134
Goodbye golden age of television. I'm glad my favorite shows are ending

>>82011134
Good. There's enough content already out there and maybe when they come back they will be over Trump's win.

>>82011717
The writers of Batman v Superman almost definitely weren't paid enough. You've got an epic Greek tragedy adapted around two monolithic superhero icons with allegories to religion and King Arthur amongst others

It's the film equivalent of The Myth of Sisyphus

GoT on suicide watch
MCU on suicide watch
DCU didn't have writers anyway

File: norm-macdonald.jpg (80KB, 375x281px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 375x281px

>>82011607
>have the same vacation time as a child
>get paid to babysit
>muh teachers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW7d-z3tmZA&feature=youtu.be&t=4173

Look at the drop from Casino Royale to Quantum of Solace -- this how bad this is going to be!

Daniel Craig said he had to write his own scenes because LEGALLY no one else on set could write due to the strike and their unions


You thought Hollywood was bad now!

Welp here comes a year of shitty film and tv shows. Along with another flood of reality tv.

>>82011908
It's fine, capeshit fans literally won't notice
They can just steal some puns from the big bang theory and it will be fine

>>82011908
>Quantum of Solace
>bad
pleb detected. I bet you liked Skyshit.

>>82011908

which scenes did he write

>someone actually """"writes""" scripts for tv and movies

hahahahahahahaha

>>82011928
So there was a strike we didn't know about for the past 5 years?

>>82011851
>the guy who wrote the bit about wonder woman finding out about the other members of the soon-to-be justice league by watching youtube trailers sent to her in an email feels he wasn't paid enough

...

>>82011134
Hopefully it will mean Hollywood is forced to hire actually competent writers instead of family members and friends of the executives.

I can't remember the last time I thought a TV show or mainstream movie was well-written. Seems like you could write the entire screen play with a fucking program now.

>>82011134
Maybe Late Night (((Comedy))) will be funny.

>>82012144
write a better way that scene could've been handled bearing in mind you have to have a scene showing that as mandated by your bosses

>>82011636
The thing is you'll basically never work again after the strike is over though right?

Would they hire overseas writers, who come in and Skab Skab Skab, then just go home when it's over with a fancy resume and no worries about the wrath of the Union.

>>82012187
Didn't happen in the last strike, why would it happen now?

>>82011582
the way tv and movies pays writers has changed since the last strike. Mostly it involves syndication payments as shows don't really syndicate anymore, which is costing them money. Also tv writers are not making as much anymore cause a lot of tv are just 10 episode mini seasons. and some other junk

>>82012238
One can always hope. Maybe the building all the fuckers are staying in burns down.

>>82011636
no. most production companies have contracts with WGA that say they won't hire writers that aren't part of the union. It's why the writers have so much power

>>82011607
>>le don't get paid enough to babysit 7 hours a day
what shit country do you live in?

>free-er the market the free-er the people
>but unions are bad!
lmao

>>82012144
I didn't see that movie and I thought you were just bullshitting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFQCnrzjm1k
Jesus fucking christ, that is fucking abysmal.

cape shit and game of arse delayed. oh no.

>>82012453
>can't hire people that aren't part of the union

Where's the free market in that?

>>82011717
why would you lump fargo in with all that shit

>>82012453
>hire non-union
>union autism 100%

>>82012221

Have a scene at the end of the movie with Batman talking about how now that Superman is gone, others will need to step up to protect the world from a looming threat as clips of the different heroes play on security cameras. Then it zooms out showing Batman watching all of them on a bunch of screens in his cave with a stinger about how he needs to bring them together. THEN ROLL CREDITS. WAS THAT SO HARD? WHY DID LEX DESIGN ALL THEIR LOGOS, AND WHY ARE THEY ALL USING THE LOGOS THAT LEX DESIGNED FOR THEM IN SECRET?

>>82011604

How? a fucking toddler could write those movies.

>>82011607
>Growing up.
>Teachers go on strike cause "WE DUN DON GET PAID ENOUGH GOVNAH!"
>Guy steps in.
Sir, come with us.
>Principle and a few teachers taken into custody.
>Found guilty of molesting kids, one being the mayors fucking autistic son.
>Teachers suddenly fall in fucking line.

>>82012453
>unions
>free market

>>82012691
>regulating away unions
>free market

>>82011134
Leftovers final season has already been written so I don't really give a shit.

>>82012710
What about all the shows out there that are actually good though?

>>82012669
>All the Marvel actors emulate RDJ anyway and nothing changes
>Ben Affleck can handle his own scenes, but everyone else is all over the place
>Fox in their corner doing their own thing without a peep

>>82012709
>union conspires to make their labor the sole source of labor for that market
>free

>>82012728
Director and actors are allowed to write, I guess this means Batfleck confirmed

I could not care less

>>82012740
But they're free to conspire. So are their employers.

>>82011607
Yeah. I mean its one thing if you're working in a coal mine, but if you're a fucking teacher do you really need strong unions?

>>82012776
As long as the employer can hire whoever he wants you can union up all you want.

>>82011864
Awwww GoT seasons 5 and 6 and Marvel's movies and shows were so great ;_;

How could one theoretically take advantage of this situation and "scab"?

>>82011134
Who cares. It's all shit, and it'll still be shit with no writers.

>>82012238
Because I've only been 18 for a couple years

Looks like Colbert is going to do 30 minute interviews again.

>>82012929
Offer to write whatever the producer wants for "free"

>>82011134
Just in time for a fresh wave of eager graduates to slave away for Hollywood

who is going to write the drumf jokes damnit i need to know where my opinions come from

God damnit. There are shows on that I like that will get axed because of this shit.

>>82012728
>Fox in their corner doing their own thing without a peep
Making shitty movies like they've always have without a peep

>But but but two of our movies had a little gore and bad words

>>82013041
>drumpf bitches about media.
>few months after taking office media is indirectly crippled.

Press F to pay respects for The Young Pope ;_;

>mfw the last writer's strike forced networks to air less scripted tv and rely more on reality TV
>mfw celebrity apprentice's ratings spiked
>mfw trump's tv career got a second wind
>mfw the writer's strike gave us president trump

Jokes on them. I don't watch tv.

File: InTheCourtOfTheDumbFrogposter.png (1MB, 710x704px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 710x704px

>tfw remember the last writer's strike producing the best episodes of Late Night With Conan O Brian of all time while simultaneously ruining Heroes

>>82012985
And Conan wings it, maybe walking the streets of LA. Although the latter is close to Kimmel's stuff.

People might actually watch Conan now.

>tfw still not over the last strike getting this cancelled

No fear, I'll just take the time to enjoy superior Asian television.

>>82011851
10/10 m8 i r8 this b8

File: Pushing-Daisies-Series-Finale-Recap-Episode-13-Kerplunk.jpg (78KB, 550x373px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 550x373px

>>82013385
pic related.

Thanks phone ...

>writer's strike conan again
oh yeahhh

>>82013251
>heroes seasons past the writers strike were shit as well
>heroes reboot was also shit
>the first season was massively overrated
I-it was the writers strike o-okay!

File: tmp_7210-1490942712193-363494188.jpg (234KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

234KB, 900x900px

This won't harm shows like TWD and GOT. Networks care too much about these shows making them money. They'll hire on new writers for a season then bring back the ones on strike when that's over. The showrunners aren't on strike.

>>82013468
>>82013380
>>82013251
Never watched Conan.
What was so good about Writer's Strike Conan?

the amount of company/cock sucking in america is so staggering you'd imagine everyone in the country owns a business or some shit

and they do the sucking for free

>>82011134
I just finished rewatching Friday Night Lights season 2, which was cut short due to the last strike.

I will never know what became of young Santiago and it kills me every day.

>>82013498
Conan was forced to write most of the show himself and used a bunch of gimmicks, which is what makes him so great. Watching a man spin his wedding ring has never been so entertaining.

>>82012639
>have literal sequel bait at the end of the film is better than an embedded, thematically consistent sequence
this is why you're not a professional writer anon

>>82013520
The reason socialism never caught on in the united states is because poor people in the united states don't see themselves as oppressed, they see themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

>>82013474
Regarding GoT, Season 7 is done. Season 8 isn't expected to start filming until September.

>>82013474
Depending on contract agreements they might not be allowed to. Also I'd say hiring amature writers would do more harm to the show than just having a year off or whatever.

Of course they'd lose money, but as a fan it would be better than having a massive quality drop.

>>82013605
yeah I saw that comment once on the internets

there it is again

are you the original author? have you copyrighted it?

>>82011538
He deserves every penny for The Leftovers.

>>82013602

Batman v Superman ended with the rocks on Superman's grave starting to lift up, implying he is still alive. Is that not sequel bait, you cunt?

File: 1465488166702.png (182KB, 427x700px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 427x700px

So how many reality shows about coal burners are they going to be on the major networks for the next year?

>>82012909

Underrated

>>82013712
Reruns, foreign programming for this year. Effects of this strike won't be apparent until we monitor what is still filming as the strike is ongoing.

File: 08LAZER-slide-JOQ8-superJumbo.jpg (42KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 1280x720px

>yfw this is all because of trump rising healthcare premiums
>yfw he saved us from hollywood

>>82013694
the leftovers is lost:redux

Why strike?

It's not like they've written anything of worth in the past decade or so.

How about they actually create cool shit that justifies a strike? I doubt anyone actually feels badly for these people.

can we strike as a viewership for better tv show writers? because they keep getting protesting but the shows keep getting worse.

>>82013585
>just checked youtube
shit, you weren't kidding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkj7heLZAsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SEZ3iSmWUM

File: 748274.png (434KB, 571x540px) Image search: [Google]

434KB, 571x540px

>>82011134

It's a good thing when workers decide to fight for better wages, the gap is increasing between rich and middle class at an alarming rate.

However, giving the quality of the writing, they can easily be replaced by fresh college dropouts and viewers won't notice a differece.

/tv/ now is our time


We can cross the picket lines and work for scraps. Holy shit we'd finally get to write the CIA movie

>>82013932

Strike Conan and Punished Conan were easily the best late night I've ever seen.

>>82013697
No, that's a tease and the proper conclusion to the story after everything that went down.
Having a JL montage right before or right after would take away from that impact
also, insults really aren't necessary man. I get you're frustrated that no one will hire you to write anyway, but c'mon, let's be civil

>>82013891
see>>82012305

In addition to a new TV and syndication payscale, they want to keep their pension level, and they want to be able to do multiple TV shows at once.

>>82011717
>>fargo
Go fuck yourself

>>82013935

it works when the employer can afford to pay not like those fast food strikes where they just decided to start building self-service kiosks.

>>82013998
Fair enough. I'm for them being able to do multiple shows at once and a new payscale. But only if it helps improve the state of media.

I'm tired of having to sit through another ad for a terrible sitcom on NBC that lasts for a couple weeks then just drops off the face of the earth.

It's just such an obvious cash grab at millenial hating baby boomers who gobble that shit up.

>>82011134
Joss Whedon going to produce another musical just to tell them to grow up?

>>82013990
>it's only sequel bait if i say it is
kek, capeshit fags everyone

>>82014162
How many pitches from competent producers/showrunners actually get approved now? NBC and CBS are the most egregious in hopelessly pandering to an audience that is slowly dying off rather than having something that would make young people watch live broadcast TV again.

>>82014366
Once Twitter/Facebook, Netflix, and or Amazon finally figure out a way to get live sports streaming on their platforms, broadcast TV is truly fucked.

>>82011583
>Implying we'd get something that kino when Vince's writer concubines aren't slaving away in the word mines

>>82014479
I'm pretty sure the leagues themselves will start their own streaming platform like MLB and WWE with integrated stats and scores before begging to streaming services. The NHL has a streaming service (NHL gamecenter live) with on the fly stats and scores, but they're partnered with Rogers.

reminder that the writer unions directly impact newer writers from getting jobs because most shows/movies don't want to give them a chance in case they fuck up, which is reasonable, but during times like this which would be the perfect opportunity for new talent to try out they'll get blacklisted as soon as the strike ends.

>>82014673
The apps are cool, but it's because of broadcast television rights deals that someone in Charlotte, for example, can't even watch a fucking home Hornets game on the app because of a blackout.

>>82011152
>t. cuck

Every one mentions TV and movies during the last writer's strike all the time here but I could genuinely never tell the difference. Writers are like politicians, you don't want to hire some one who chose the job as a career

>>82014020
its shit

unions were a mistake

also this means westworld is going to go to shit (inb4 it already was)

glad the leftovers is ending

>>82015385
You're just incredibly stupid.

>>82011717
how hard is it to write law and order

how do you get this job

Jews gonna Jew.

Hopefully the scab writers come forward and usher in a 2nd golden age of television. we wouldnt have brbr without the first strike,

>>82012008
The ending was a giant explosion. The first half or so was pretty patrician though.

File: IMG_1351.jpg (430KB, 1798x812px) Image search: [Google]

430KB, 1798x812px

>>82011604
It did. Are you old enough to remember the last one?

>>82012144
god damnit...

>agree to the terms of the contract
>bitch and complain about the terms of the contract
>go on strike

I fucking hate unions.

>ad boycott kill youtube
>writers strike 2 kills hollywood

OY VEY MAKE IT HAPPEN

CHECK MY DIGITS

>>82011134
how can I use this to my advantage so I can pitch my script ideas and become a scab working for the industry during the strike?

File: 1470711490917.png (17KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 900x900px

>>82011134
you need writers to remake the same movie that was released 5 years ago?

>>82016279
Hey man, I'm a writer on these movies and it's really hard work.
Do you know how tough it is to put in references to the original movie so that the audience can feel clever for remembering there was a movie with the same title 15 years ago?
It's fucking hard.
Do you know how long it took us to find the perfect place to have someone ask if anyone knew who to call in the new Ghostbusters film? Six weeks and 14 million dollars of R&D down the drain.

So don't you DARE mouth off when you don't know how FUCKING hard this is.
But you don't know. You're just a pathetic little troll while I'm a Hollywood auteur working on the new Rocky movie, hand-crafting an exquisite scene where Rocky tells Adrian that she "has the beautiful eyes of a tiger."

>>82011134
Writers should strike against having to insert characters for race and because their females when it's translated to film & tv.

>>82016134
if quads it will happen

capeshit, remakes of old shit and watered down novel adaptations. why do they get paid at all is the question.

>>82011134

Fuck 'em, I hope they all get replaced by scabs and end up never working in the industry again.

Are the hacks Orci and Kurtzman in this list?


Theyre a bunch of jewish hacks who latched on to JJ and can't do anything for shit. At least JJ can bring entertainment value; those faggots can't at all.

Goddamn I should practice my screenplay so I can just get a job and steal one out of those entitled fags.

>>82011152
They're largely necessary though

File: 1492995584999.jpg (29KB, 400x232px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 400x232px

They're striking AGAIN?

Maybe these fucking cunts will get a real job now.

>>82011152

Id rather a cancerous union than a 70 hour work week.

File: 1484223036160.png (22KB, 333x308px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 333x308px

Oh no, where will we get our witty jokes now?!

These guys gave us gems like "DRUMPF" and "PICKLE RICK"! We're fucked now!

>>82011604
Didnt Iron Man 1 happen during the past writers strike?

I've heard they didnt even have a script when filming.

>>82012607
>>82014020
fuck off retards

>>82012835
Yes, you do. Teachers get paid shit

I don't understand unions in Hollywood.

The trades, airlines, emergency services things like that where unsafe conditions can get people killed I can understand but writers?

>>82019458
Hollywood is full of entitled elitist trash

Hollywood should just permanently fire these writers and blacklist them.

>>82016096

The contract is ending, it says so in the article.

>>82019454
Wow good thing the union was there to remedy that.

I wonder how long until /tv/ is complaining about how badly written tv shows are.

File: drumpf.png (266KB, 803x428px) Image search: [Google]

266KB, 803x428px

>writers gave us this
>and now they want more money for it

>>82011864
>MCU on suicide watch
Confirmed secure to 2019 already
>GoT on suicide watch
Finishing the final season filming before the strike hits

>>82019532
TV shows are already badly written

These writerfaggots are essentially royalty now and need to be deposed

>>82019542

His show is actually well written and researched.

>writers strike 1
>there's a ton of great shit being produced and written and it seems shits just going to keep getting better
>writers strike
>everything that hasn't wrapped up is left to burn. Any interesting script in the pipeline is flushed.
>strike ends
>writers get less than nothing
>a solid decade of remakes, ripoffs, adaptations, and comic book movies passes
>writers strike again

AT LEAST THE FIRST TIME THEY HAD SOME SORT OF QUALITY WORK TO BACK UP THEIR DEMANDS

NOW THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT A MASSIVE PILE OF SHIT AND THEY'RE DEMANDING MORE MONEY TO MAKE L-I-T-E-R-A-L SHIT

File: 1469682726380.jpg (30KB, 521x552px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 521x552px

>>82019600
>John Oliver
>well written

Return to Reddit, young man.

>>82019599

That makes zero sense. Who the fucks going to write the shows?

Also, Just because you say it is doesnt make it so.

>>82011152
This. They REALLY are.

>>82012985
Colbert can write his own material, but he kinda sucks at it these days

>>82019631
Fire and blacklist the commie faggots. Get new people.

There is no shortage of writers, especially in Hollywood.

>>82019239
>It's been 10 YEARS since the writer's guild put even more power into studio hands

>>82019542
Comedy TV is in the shitter right now, hopefully all the gay strikers get sacked and he get a new wave of people with brains

>>82013155
>WGA has a say over a foreign property
kek

File: working hours.jpg (169KB, 816x512px) Image search: [Google]

169KB, 816x512px

>>82011601
>>82015146
>>82019156
>>82019358
>these people ACTUALLY think unions are responsible for lower working hours, better working conditions and higher wages

Empirically fucking false. Capital investment did that.
Working hours were decreasing in western nations LONG BEFORE the government got involved.

Union are labour cartels and were a big reason why detroit fell.

>>82019600
(((you)))

File: 1493030695638.jpg (178KB, 882x818px) Image search: [Google]

178KB, 882x818px

>>82019682
NO COMEDY TV IS IN A GOLDEN AGE

GET IT? GOLDEN??? BECAUSE TRUMP'S PEEPEE POOPOO xD

>>82019694
>its that guy who tries to argue working conditions improved on their own

people literally died for every waking hour you aren't required to work.

Writers are entitled liberal cucks.

They want MORE money to write their terrible propaganda?

Fuck them and fuck unions.

>>82019631
If you have mastery of the english language and half a brain cell you can write a TV show. And it's not like you're even writing whole episodes, you work on a team with other writers and contribute a small piece. Anyone could fucking do it.

>be me
>work for a union for 8 months
>job is a pile of shit
>move to another warehouse job without a union
>pays 2 dollars more an hour and I get incentive bonuses for working harder

really makes you think

File: 1487328947231.png (8KB, 126x126px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 126x126px

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ8swY06eRU

This is what we're losing, /tv/. Everyone mourn.

>>82019791
its almost as if non-union employers have to offer better conditions than unions in order to get employees interested

>>82019734
>>its that guy who tries to argue working conditions improved on their own
It's empirically correct though.
Why try to argue against what actually happened?

>people literally died
So?
It's their fault for being violent unionists.

>waking hour you aren't required to work.
AHHAHAHAHA
Unions did jack shit.

Working hours are a function of what the worker wants. If people make enough money(or prices are low enough) to justify working less hours, they will find jobs with less hours. This happened for decades long before the government got involved.

>>82019694
Detroit fell because of nigger infestations and White Flight.

File: images (7).jpg (8KB, 261x193px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 261x193px

>>82011190

>writer's strike

NOOOOO. HOW WILL I FILL MY DAYS NOW???????

>>82019876
Because you're revising history to suit a narrative where organized protest of horrid conditions weren't responsible for said conditions improving.

Also, last time you tried to force this shit, you got directed to the documentary "Harlan county, USA." You seem to have yet to watch that. Do yourself a favor and stop looking stupid and actually gets some actual facts in your head.

File: brak.jpg (10KB, 259x296px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 259x296px

>>82011582
average writer gets only like $30,000 a year, if they are goddamned lucky enough to get on a show that runs consistently

you'd think they make hand over fist because its Hollywood and they're bleeding money, but for what's arguably one of the hardest gigs out there writers barely make enough to cover rent for their shitty LA suburb apartment

and yeah its a hard job. millions of people figured out how to be a doctor, you spend 7 years studying you can learn anything. Being a writer isn't like a craft or practice, you need talent and the ability to think creatively

Try writing a story that's even Big Bang Bradzoopel tier, you can't

File: lazy boy.jpg (66KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 600x600px

>That feel when amateur writer who just wants to work on a project even if I get paid jack squat

Is it my time to shine?

Is there some way I can get into this to write stuff with other people for money and experience? Even if it was just some kind of assistant job?

>>82019936
>hardest gig

Writers do nothing but write memes all day. It's like shitposting on /tv/ except it's your job.

>b-b-b-but the rent is expensive!

Aww, poor baby wants to live in an expensive city at a low cost? BOOOOOOO HHOOOOOOOO

>>82019936
>average writer gets only like $30,000 a year,

That's horseshit. I made more than 70k a year as a freelance novel editor 5 years ago.

Talent gets paid.

>>82019934
>if x didn't do it, it wouldn't exist
el em ayy ohing desu senpai

>>82011152
Fuck off bootlicker scum

I'm a Republican shill but I love my union. Not going to get jewed and say me paying $19 every 2 weeks isnt worth an extra 4 days of paid holiday vacation

>>82019979
So you're just pretending to be stupid. That's n i c e.

>>82019987
>he thinks 19 dollars is the entirety of the unions impact on his wages
read bastiats seen and unseen or ipencil if you're retarded

File: 1385611472032.png (2KB, 215x182px) Image search: [Google]

2KB, 215x182px

>agglhblohbooo blloo blooo writing words is sooo hard give me a million dollars or i quit

>>82019936
>Try writing a story that's even Big Bang Bradzoopel tier, you can't
Oh yeah?

How long does the summary of the story need to be?

>>82020024
>Summary
and you lost the debate, idea guy.

>>82019694
Unions have been active since the mid 1800s at least. And the government was usually heavily on the side of the employer until the Great Depression (at least in he US), and then they started cracking down on them again in the 80s onward, which is why your New World stats have the working hours increase. I don't know that much about the situation in Europe other than the unions there are much stronger than in the US. Relearn your labour history

>>82020007
I'm not so stupid that I assert the only way something currently exists is this one specific way or reason

are you the kind of moron that thinks inventions would never happen but for the one specific inventor?

>>82020058
You're attempting to claim something would happen for no reason, for no cause, for no purpose, for no benefit to anyone but people who don't matter.

yes, you're either an idiot or pretending to be one.

>>82020037
My mistake, I wasn't him. I just want to BTFO your atupid asshole because you think not writing garbage is hard.

I'm not even a professional writer, LET ALONE GOOD, and even I bet I could write stuff better than most of the shit that's on TV.

>>82020020
It's the highest paying job I've held with the best benefits bar none.
ALL union negotiated in a labor contract that is chiseled out every 3 years
Definitely not going to read your fucking meme French writers novella when I have benefitted so much from my union.
Go set up a shine box with your tongue

File: 1493074666951.png (340KB, 472x355px) Image search: [Google]

340KB, 472x355px

>>82020089
No you can't. Let me test you right now.

Colbert is about to open his show, what does he say?

File: 1491018011162.png (181KB, 1070x1380px) Image search: [Google]

181KB, 1070x1380px

>>82013949
way ahead of you bud

>>82020122
GRUMPF

>>82011538
Why the fuck does he keep getting work?
His shit always flops and no one likes his writing

File: 1353912657004.png (3KB, 186x186px) Image search: [Google]

3KB, 186x186px

>>82020152
Can you start today?

>>82020122
I have never watched a talk show host tv show in my life, so I wouldn't be able to answer that effectively because I don't even know what they say now, but I could probably write a better story to a tv show than some of these faggot Union crybabies and I'm not even a professional writer.

>>82020141
its the high protein and carbs with moderate fat balanced to get you through a day

>>82020122
>So Trump says he'll reveal his new tax plan soon, and this time the American public won't need a court order!

I'm not even that anon Colbert's just so stale and predictable

the 2 things i remember from that time period were: summer glau in the picket lines during the strike while terminator was struggling to find an audience, and conan cementing his legacy as one of the best late night talk show hosts.

>Black Sails just ended
Thank god, nothing else to watch on tv.

>>82020180
he rode lost for a while.

its over though

>>82020122
He has a line of 5 midgets dressed like Oompa Loompas with huge Trump hair wigs that follow him on the stage and they sing "Humpty Dumpty Drumpflerytumty. What do you get when your president is a Nazi?"

The audience spontaneously combusts

>>82020245
*from the last wga strike

>>82020141
Bendis?

File: 1380944323443.jpg (10KB, 177x192px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 177x192px

>>82020241
That's a little too complex for our audience. Can you trim it down to a... let's say... 6 letter word or something?

>>82020141
Less swearing, dude. You come across as some edgy faggot trying to be edgier than Tarantino with your obvious Vincent/Jules duo ripoff from Pulp Fiction.

>>82020306
FUCK Trump and Fuck White People

>>82019975
holy shit can I have your job?

who the fuck makes 70k in BOOKS that isn't Stephen King

>>82020081
no I'm not, market forces would lead to an increase in various benefits and safety, they still magically manage to exist outside of unions and regulation

>>82020353
And unions being "market forces."

>>82011864
>DCU didn't have writers anyway

Was this Snider's endgame all along?

File: 1492870940822.png (193KB, 265x326px) Image search: [Google]

193KB, 265x326px

>>82011134
Can someone please explain this to me because I don't understand. Don't there exist a lot of writers in Hollywood? If Writers Guild members go on strike, aren't there a lot more people not in the Writers Guild who are willing to work under for such pay/conditions?

I'm reminded of that Simpsons gag of when they go to Hollywood, and on the side of the road is someone selling fruit out of his car, and right next to him is a guy selling screenplays in the same way.

>>82020115
you have no concept of the unseen or marginal utility and you're trying to convince others how your retarded economic agreement is beneficial

>>82011152
maybe they should pay them more since theyre the ones writing the fucking shit

>>82020397
Maybe they should write better.

>>82020309
its pasta my friend

>>82020392
Writers are essentially "idea guys"

There is no shortage of them

>>82020392
Many of these companies have contracts with the WG to not hire any writers not in the WG.

File: IMG_3798.jpg (49KB, 612x380px) Image search: [Google]

49KB, 612x380px

>Mr. Gilligan, bad news. The writers just went on strike. We'll barely have any dialogue for next week's episode.

>I thought you were gonna give me bad news. How are those wide angle shots of the desert coming along?

>>82020394
>workers gather together, say "hey we should agree on certain things we would like and propose this"
>dumb cuck anon: REEEEEEEE!!!! haven't they read Jacques le Bastille?!? They would have gotten 12 paid holidays off without it after a couple of decades pass maybe! Ughhh it's not worth it!!!!!
Top fucking jejjington you bootlicking dogshit
btw graduated with a B.S. in Econ so don't try to church it all up near me and play that game

File: Laura`s_dead.jpg (341KB, 1520x1138px) Image search: [Google]

341KB, 1520x1138px

>>82020394
>marginal utility
>Its a "capitalist bootlicker took econ 101 and thinks he understands all of economics" episode

>>82020538
econ 101 is a bit of a stretch. This reeks of community college.

>>82020141

I was going make a bunch of mean snarky critiques with meme arrows but that didn't seem very constructive

If that's an actual prospect script you're working on keep doing your thing. Just write, write, write

but don't do the Funny Bit in the Elevator Trope, you're better than that.

>>82020452

An "idea guy" is someone who can't put an idea to paper, all he has is the idea

writers are valuable because they know how to actually write something once they have the idea

>>82020180
He must have a video of JJ molesting a child or something.

File: pushing daises.jpg (312KB, 2000x1334px) Image search: [Google]

312KB, 2000x1334px

>>82013421
>>82013385
;___; cancelled way too early

we never got to learn the twist with Chuck

>>82019618
amen

fucking garbage the last 6 years, havent seen anything decent started on television since then

i literally can't name a tv show that was made on broadcast tv that impacted me at all or was memorable

the 00s had shit that ill never forget, as wells the 90s

for the 10s? fuck i can't name one except maybe s05 doctor who (matt smith's first season) and maybe stranger things (but that's netflix)

maybe legion too but again that's FX now, actually being better than 99% of television and somewhat trying

>>82020890
>for the 10s? fuck i can't name one except maybe s05 doctor who (matt smith's first season) and maybe stranger things (but that's netflix)
daaaamn you have terrible taste

>>82020141
Yikes

Why do writers even exist anymore? I'm pretty sure AI has advanced to the point where it could write the average capeshit script. Computer generated quips would probably be funnier.

>>82021395
dude i said i was finding the bottom of the barrel of what i would even say was notable or new

please give me your top finds of this decade
ill laugh if its fargo, westworld, or the leftovers, or god forbid something like twd/got

>>82020500
Underrated kek

>>82020272
This is unironically funnier than anything that fag or his jew writers could come up with.

>>82019618
this desu

the age of syndicated garbage is dying

i for one welcome this strike from these fucking union retards, it will kill their industry even faster than if they didn't

>>82021981
Justified

>>82011152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcEfOcEsbDc

>watching tv

>>82011152
t. Jethro Jethroson IV from Teays Valley, West Virginia

>>82019618
Yeah I was gonna say, there's not really a whole lot at stake with this strike. What shows are even being held ransom that anyone really gives a shit about?

>>82011598
Wtf late night went bonkers with the last strike its not going anywhere

>>82011717
>this strike will end capeshit for good or force them to hire non unionized writers that will be better
KINO

File: 1435736475016.jpg (2MB, 5000x5000px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 5000x5000px

>>82011134
Oh no what are they gonna do? Stop making remakes/reboots of everything?

>>82021981
>ill laugh
more proof of your bad taste

>>82020392
The guild is large and powerful. If you scab and work while they're on strike, they'll blacklist you. So when the strike's over and the guild has new contracts with the various studios your ass is going to be out of work, nobody will hire you.

File: 1435921817321.png (24KB, 193x194px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 193x194px

>>82011134
>in response, Trump ordered a strike with 96% support

>>82013155
>WGA in Italy
Worry not, this is only going to ruin Netflix and capeshit

>>82013471
Yes it was the strike. Season 2 dug a massive hole that they couldn't crawl out of. They should have just pretended season 2 never happened, then they could have maybe made something good, but they tried to salvage the unholy mess of season 2 and it just dragged the entire show down as a result.

What were they even writing? The latest capeshit?

>>82022545
patrician choice.
justified had consistently great wrtiting.
Americans
Atlanta
Baskets
Fargo
Legion
Feud
American Crime Story
FX shows in general have fantastic writing. FX is the new HBO now...
as far as i care any writers who don't work for FX can strike...
i don't want to wait for the next American crime story for so fucking long.

>>82020473
>>82022800
That sounds like Mafia-tier nonsense.

Looks like I'm heading out to Hollywood this summer for work

I can write way better than the shit they've been putting out lately

>Film industry is mainly comic book films and reeboots
Maybe getting some fresh blood in will do the industry good.

So 2008 they were striking because they weren't getting paid enough for online cuts

What are they striking for now, 9 years later?

>>82011190
Walking Dead has writers?

>>82022992
Welcome to Unions/Guilds

File: Cover.jpg (270KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

270KB, 600x600px

>>82020890
>fucking garbage the last 6 years, havent seen anything decent started on television since then

>>82020394
>look at me, I took econ 101 and read entry-level popularizations

File: 1535ecbf2222493496c9b46e7d93d63f_1LX2J4I_header.jpg (142KB, 1750x917px) Image search: [Google]

142KB, 1750x917px

>>82020122
.......So, uh, Donald Trump......

>>82022992
Yes they essentially run a racket. Glad you understand how unions work now.

>>82023006
>Looks like I'm heading out to Hollywood this summer for work
>I can write way better than the shit they've been putting out lately
...thought every creative arts major in the world. Normally I'd believe you, but I've seen what the amateur film scene looks like. It's full of liberal cucks who keep blowing each other off on how avant garde their writing/directing/acting is. There's no humanity or realism - it's all about being 'unique' and 'standing out from the crowd', so they make pretentious garbage that no one is interested in and then get upset without question if their own ideas are to blame.

I'm not American, but why don't film companies just forget about those striking and hire new talent from other fields?

Personally, I don't care about this strike. TV has become a platform to repeat the same old "DAE HATE DRUMPF??!????", so good riddance. I'm sure there are plenty of great writers from the literature field that could write some great TV.

>>82023082
If I liked Lost, will I like this?

>>82011134
Again?
I forgot the last one even ended

it's quite funny actually

the alt media will get even stronger

>>82023241
I liked Lost too (at first at least), but it got frustrating by season 5 when you realize it's just a clusterfuck of mysteries thrown around purposelessly. Person of Interest's plot lines are actually well woven together and conclude in a highly satisfactory way. The cast is even more memorable I guess since there aren't 20 of them.

It's a tighter and better-steered ship.

Serious question, I barely watch TV anymore (besides anime and re-watching older TV shows) because the quality of TV shows has been pretty shit and agenda filled for a while. What's a show that:
>Isn't filled with liberal propaganda or bullshit
>No pandering or forced racial/sexual/sexuality "inclusiveness" (if it's brought to the viewers attention multiple times for example, guuuuurl power etc, I'm not interested)
>Doesn't pussify male characters in the name of being PC
>And interesting storyline and characters

Is there even anything like this anymore?

>>82023328
I'll give that a go. Thanks anon.

>>82019694
Detroit is a shithole because the companies left, dumbass. They wanted to make even more money and so exported jobs to do so. I bet you think trickle-down economics is real too, you corporate-cock gobbler.

>>82023359
The Young Pope

That's it

File: IMG_1483.jpg (109KB, 1024x576px) Image search: [Google]

109KB, 1024x576px

>Prison Break gets revived
>just intime for another strike to kill it again
Kek

>>82023359
Better Call Saul

>>82023359
BCS
True Detective S1 (NOT S2)

>>82011890
>You're not one of those fuckin' teachers, are you?

>>82023462
>>82023434
>>82023397
Thanks guys. I'll look into these.

>>82023434
Nothing Happens : The Series

>>82023649
(pleb)

>>82012221
Have the scene only be about Wonder Woman rather than it be an ad for the JL movie.

>>82011607
Here in Italy their pay is mediocre considering they often have to work afterhours for which they are not paid, plus all school trips is even more unpaid time but they still have the responsibility of the students

>>82019640
the fact they've convinced you of that is really funny fact the only unions left are ones where it's the hardest to shift jobs overseas shows you they have less and less power the more the economy goes global

>>82019498
The problem isn't the teacher's union, it's the government not giving education more funding from which teachers can use to get a higher salary. You can't get a raise if money's tight.

>>82011134
Can someone remind me what happened to TV Shows/Movies in USA during the 2007-08 writer's strike?

File: marve_thumbsl.png (159KB, 596x811px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 596x811px

>>82011604
Oh please the MCU will do just fine. Who needs writers for that stuff anyway.

>>82023978
Seasons of tv shows were cut short, and quality went down the shitter.

>>82019618
Do you think the writers approve themselves the script that gets made? Do you think that there aren't piles of scripts waiting to be bought or maybe bought but waiting to be used and left in the dust?

What you see is what gets approved, The buck stops at who has the money and the rights.

>>82023978
Regular TV shows were cut short. Networks ordered more episodes of reality shows. Late night talk shows like Conan and Daily Show had their best moments though since the hosts were basically themselves instead of going off shit monologues.

>>82023515
don't watch Better call saul. it's shit.
here are the best recent tv shows:
the leftovers
the knick
the americans
Rectify
The Girlfriend Experience
Quarry
Hap and Leonard
Show Me A Hero
Vice Principals - now this one is especially great, fantastic comedy

>>82023215
1. You can't just hire scabs/strikebreakers.
2. Most writers are from the cities, and are liberal. And Trump gives off a lot of material to work with, makes Bush 2 look like a saint.
3. Writing books isn't the same as writing scenes. Dialogue yes, but there's also making things a certain length.

Just like the VA strike they will keep prodding forward and someone will keep watching.

>>82024207
>1. You can't just hire scabs/strikebreakers.
Surely they could boycott union workers forever and only hire other people, no? If it worked well enough, certain writers could defect? Serious question.

>Kevin Feige said the strike won't affect the slate of movies coming in the next years from the MCU


Tells you everything about them, really.

the only show I care about is Fargo.

>>82023162
Well good thing studios never blacklisted anyone.

>>82024313
>>Kevin Feige said the strike won't affect the slate of movies coming in the next years from the MCU
top kek

>>82019777
>Anyone could fucking do it.

Then who's stopping you? Go ahead pal

welp back to anime I go

>>82024259
Studio's have contracts that they will only hire writer's guilds members.

>>82024504
Don't these workers have contracts to actually work though?

>>82011601
kek, nice projection buddy

>>82020452
>>82020630
I thought producers were the "idea" guys coming up with rough plot outlines, then they hire a writer to essentially fill in the blanks by adding all the dialogue and transitions connecting scenes together.

>>82011134
So what will we get after the strike?
More remakes, capeshit and leftist pandering by a fresh new generation of young hip writers?

>>82025716
Yes.

>>82011134
Oh boy here we go again.

>>82011134

They won't be missed.

Hollywood should just cancel their contracts with the WGA and farm out their work to independent contractors. You can get 15 year old retards from IMDB to do exactly the same fucking job for peanuts.

Look at any Marvel release. That doesn't require a "writer".

The creative low budget stuff is independent and outside of the studio system too.

Unionized writers are as worthless as Unionized janitors.

>>82023977
>it's the government not giving education more funding

Hasn't funding fucking ballooned in America over the last few decades with no increase in test scores (even a decline in most cases).

>>82020180

Because """""creative"""" fields are based on connections and nepotism and your abilities and qualifications aren't empirically measured. So he's a known "name" and thus just gets thrown work.

Look at any of the films he's involved in...ask yourself...does that require someone with actual talent or competence? They're literally indistinguishable in quality from lazy fan-fic or unpublished garbage authors on the internet.

>>82011134

Does this mean we'll start seeing Heroes season 2 levels of kino on tv again?

>>82013602
>thematically consistent

How is watching some youtube videos 'thematically consistent' with this greek tradgedy you're banging on about. How is it not sequel bait?

>>82020392

Basically;

>Not in WGA

>Studio won't hire you

>Break WGA rules and you can't be in the WGA

It's why Robert Rodriguez got fired from Barbarella and John Carter. He refused to co-operate with DGA rules for non union members, and thus the studio "couldn't" hire him.

Movie studios will eventually, like every other corporate entity, simply farm out work.

They did it already with VFX.

Remember the Life Of Pi/Oscars drama?

>>82013990
> a tease and the proper conclusion to the story

So the writers are so fucking garbage they can't even provide a 'proper conclusion' to their own story in one film, yet they deserve more money.

> Nii-san! My almonds are activating on their own!

>>82020630

>Know how to write something

99.9% of product is so generic that it's quite simple to hire a "writer" the same way you'd hire a resume writer and just have someone shit a script out. If you want quips, farm out work to stand ups.

Hollywood is way behind the curve compared to other industries.

Maybe it was different in the 90's and back, but just look at what's the bread and butter of Hollywood now - Capeshit can literally be shat out in minutes by anyone with access to a few screenplay books and producers notes.

>>82023006

Does your mother/father/uncle/drug dealer have connections?

If not, then no, you aren't doing anything.

>>82025843
>Remember the Life Of Pi/Oscars drama?
Please explain

>>82025799

U.S. education funding is extremely high, and results are down.

File: IMG_2522.jpg (316KB, 1600x1195px) Image search: [Google]

316KB, 1600x1195px

>>82025906

The company that won the Oscar for Life Of Pi went bankrupt, because Hollywood basically told the VFX companies;

>Low quality CGI doesn't worry audiences
>We will simply farm your work out to cut rate Koreans unless you do work for free

They had protests at the Oscars, but VFX people aren't real people, so no one in Hollywood cared.

The VFX team went up on stage to accept their Oscar, and the minute they began to raise the issue they were played off. The rest of the crew when receiving their awards, notably the cinematographer (whose Oscar was entirely owed to the VFX crew) refused to acknowledge them.

Writers are next on this block as well as most other crew, as their rules become automated and easily replicated (especially cinematographers who see large parts of their job relegated to colorists and digital automation and VFX).

>>82013694
he deserves a penny

>boo hoo writing fairytales is not a sure 80k/year

I pray to god all these fags lose their jobs to scabs.

>>82025973
Well I'm surprised writing hasn't been outsourced to Indians by now desu.

>>82025876
>If you want quips, farm out work to stand ups.
Marvel already hired Dan Harmon to do reshoots for Doctor Strange, basically the same thing

>>82011152
This.

>>82011601
Spoken like a true pathetic commie.

>>82020397
They are paid EXACTLY what they are worth in an economical sense. That's how a free market works and there is NOTHING you can say to negate this simple fact.

The problem is that faggots like them (and you) vastly overestimate how much they are worth. So when they are confronted by the fact that they are not special and easily replaceable, they throw a tantrum like the children they are, because it goes against everything they have been taught their entire life.

Real life isn't your liberal arts lalaland.