Why is he such a shitty Sith? How could he lost a fight to someone

>>81956300
He likes Rey maybe

>>81956300
>Why is he such a shitty Sith?
I don't think he is. Did anybody even really say "Sith" in TFA?

Why doesn't he have a Darth name?

why doesnt they just name it kotor?

>>81956428
They will in the next movie. Siths are too iconic to be dropped. I bet movie will start with him getting his Darth title.

all stronk women memes aside, this really was retarded. it completely devalues kylo as a villain and basically confirms they're going to have some asspull to make him worthy again in VIII.

>>81956300

Why didn't they just bring back Darth Maul?

Because hes a FUCKING WHITE MAAAAALE!

Rey was fighting to kill

Kylo was fighting his waifu

>>81956300
he isnt sith

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>>81956300
This was retarded - It's like Anakin would lost a fight to younglings

He was trying to conceal his boner the whole fight

The retards who keep asking this are the same retards who think Darth Maul or General Grevious were good villains. Stick to the capeshit, kiddos.

Bowcaster

>>81956593
Darth Maul was killed by an apprentice, by a fucking padawan

>>81956861
Obi-Wan was old and experienced enough to already be a Jedi Knight. It was Qui-Gon's fault he was still a padawan

>>81956757
Why didn't Chewie just shoot Darth Vader with bowcaster?

>>81956484
because he just died in Rebels and that takes place before empire falls

>>81956861
and he didn't actually die when he got sliced in half

>>81956300

He was trying to turn her to The Dark Side, not kill her.

Look this thread again, where everyone ignores the fact he got shot before the fight.

Throughout the movie they made it a point that chewbacca's gun was very powerful. The fact that Kylo manages to even walk is extraordinary.

That being said, Kylo Ren can't be a sith if he isn't trained by a sith lord. The official lore is still pretty vague about dark side force users that aren't sith.

>>81957009

He was using that pain to make himself stronger, also. But he didn't know how to channel his anger because Snoke is a failure as a Sith Lord.

Everyone and their mothers knew that fucking everyone said that both he and Snoke are NOT sith. The sith are gone, dead.

Besides, because reylo. He and Rey will be the item of this trilogy. And the nigger and the asian.

>>81957123
The Sith died with Sidious and Vader. I think the new movies are going to be about both sides trying to find a new path in utilizing the force.

>>81957370
Give me ONE quote from the movie where they say Kylo and Snoke are not Sith

>>81956300
He was too emotional.
That is why Darth vader, count dooku, and darth maul are so powerful, they are angry yet controlled, and that is a scary thing.

>>81957009
they never explain why the shot doesn't affect kylo as it did the troopers. first they make a big deal about showing how powerful it is, then kylo just walks it off like it's nothing. it's honestly bizarre and confusing writing

How was he able to stop a blaster shot mid air matrix style at the start of the movie then go on with a full scene while it hangs there in the air yet by the end of the movie he gets BTFO

Kylo is not a sith, Sith are extinct, Vader saw to that

>>81957510
The movie was too shallow to address politics/motives/ideologies/whatsoever, no wonder you're not informed. The info came from Abrams long before VII was even released.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/25/star-wars-the-force-awakens-kylo-ren-is-not-a-sith-and-the-first-order-are-basically-nazis

>>81956473
>Siths are too iconic to be dropped
prequel shit is fucking gay.

>>81957647

Because that part was probably in the first drafts of the movie, when Kylo was probably more fearsome, powerful and Vader-like

>>81957632
Stormtroopers are meek damage dealers while Kylo is a tank. You need to use MMO logic on that one.

>>81957510

Maz Kanata says something like:
>I have seen evil take on many forms....The sith, The empire, the new order...

It implies that even Sheev stopped being a sith in the traditional sense. He dropped the whole religious aspect and focussed on military domination instead.

>>81956984
Yet in the the stupid cartoon he gets killed even quicker by obi lmao

>>81957666
Doesn't matter - most of mythology that everyone is familiar with comes from prequels. They cannot drop this - everyone is expecting Snoke to be somehow related to Siths and he will be.

>>81956300
He wasn't a fully trained sith, he was shot by chewbacca, and he wasn't trying to kill rey

>>81956300
He was trying not to step on the spaghetti he kept spilling.

>>81957647
If the Force is basically telepathy then what's even the point of having lightsaber fights? Just choke them until they die or stop their hearts.

The only time it's justified is in the OT because Vader and the Emperor weren't trying to kill Luke and Luke was barely trained in the Force

>>81956300
he is not a sith he is a knight of rey

>>81956528
is this from a game? wow they make the player kill children

>>81956300
He is not a sith, he was injured and he has a boner for Rey.

>>81957647
Who says that's a hard thing to do?

it's never explained in the movies which skills are hard to accomplish, and which aren't.

>>81957956
They're younglings not children.

He's not a Sith but a failed Jedi. That said he is pretty shit and would not last a day back during The Clone Wars.

>>81958074
Not one Jedi or sith has ever done that, and it's not just stopping it for a second but then to just ignore it and go on with a interrogation while holding it there in the back of his mind... that's pretty badass idk

>>81956428
Yes, they did.

>>81956300
because the plot demanded it

>>81957666
>Sith
>prequel shit
https://youtu.be/ja4WudpzBYw

>>81957510
Snoke: "hey Kylo, remember what we're definitely not?"

Kylo: "Sith?"

Snoke: "You damn right we ain't!"

>>81956300
It's a movie for children. Stop trying to make sense of it, geek.

>>81956300
he's not a Sith
>>81956473
they'll probably find a new name for dark side users that will be "this generation's equivalent of the sith from past trilogies"
just like everything they showed in TFA

>>81957632
>kylo just walks it off like it's nothing
Except he's clearly wounded and that wound costs him the victory against Rey.

>>81957650
Is that true even in the EU? 30 years after RotJ there has been no sith?

he got shot in the stomach

>>81956300
>Why is he such a shitty Sith?
I think that's explained quite well in the movie.

>>81956473
>Siths are too iconic to be dropped.
No they're not. Vader destroyed them in the last movie, it's done. Only the shitty old EU kept Sith going after there was anyone let to pass on the teachings.

>>81958732
When?

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>That feel when Darth Caedus will never be a thing again.

>>81959662
>they'll probably find a new name for dark side users
Such as... say... the Knights of Ren?

>>81959980
>When?
See: >>81957752

>>81960053
probably, but honestly I don't think the other knights are force users

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>>81956300
THE TREEES, NOT THE TREES

>>81957752
>>81960080
But that's a fucking stupid interpretation to take.

>>81960134
Weren't they all Luke's students?

Isn't a "Sith" most formally like a title such as Jedi Knight or Master...until them you're a bitch Trainee.

>>81960225
Darth is a title. Sith is the name of the order.

>>81960208
idk, it seems the obvious route for them to take

>>81960208
They said Kylo killed them all but who knows he could have had a clique he ran with and they all went dark. It'd be a nice reveal that half his student went dark and killed the rest because Luke was such a shit teacher.

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>Everyone thinks hes a teenager
>He acts like a teenager
>Hes actually in his 30s

>>81960383
>>81960383
He such a failure as a villain. Couldn't he just force choke that guy? Why can't Disney make good villains?

>>81960447
It's like he's the epitome of a modern alt-right white male....manchild with a special ed skinhead theme

>>81960447
I'd say he's less of a teenager and more of "young person", like someone who is 18 or 19 or in their early 20's and horribly confused about what their career path will be

>>81960497
I never really saw him as a villain. It's pretty obvious to me he is going to the light side in the next movie.

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>>81960497
>Disney
>this guy who romanticizes Lucas and sees things through nostalgia rose colored glasses

As if original vader wasn't a cartoon character and prequel anakin wasn't just Darth Emo the original with the emperor in both being 40 year old bi-polar virgin. The only difference between Disney and Lucas is the group of shareholders that get money in the end, the mechanisms which create the movies are more or less the same. If Lucas still owned it you would have gotten the exact same movies...with more jar jar