/who/ - Doctor Who General

>>81950896
Man that must suck

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqpzv6v5KBM

Some carry-over discussion:

New episode of Whovians is up >>81950666 - includes Rove namedropping Big Finish off the cuff!

Edge has a drawing of a DW showrunner triumvarate >>81950159

Did Smile go to shit in the last 10 minutes? >>81950017

Gareth has quibbles with Smile >>81949469

Smile is, it seems, connected to The Beast Below and The Ark in Space - http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-04-22/did-you-spot-this-subtle-doctor-who-callback-to-an-earlier-episode

>>81951007
It's what I get for being an australian on telstra
I can post new threads from phone tethering but I need to save the data for when I actually need it

>>81951030
I'm on Telstra too. Not looking forward to when this banner contest pass runs out...

>>81951030
I can't post new threads from phone data, I get the same IP range message. On Telstra too. Weird.

>>81951010
you forgot the most important carry-over discussion of all
does anon need to show us his dick yet?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12807719/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12807719/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12807719/

>>81951030
>>81951042
>Telstra
Optus is where it's at my cunts

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>>81951051
>you forgot the most important carry-over discussion of all

>>81951049
Oh yeah I keep forgetting you aren't actually Cloister. Cloi Cloi never seemed to actually post at the SEAfag time.

>>81951049
My phone's not on telstra which would be what makes the difference
Just in this last week suddenly I'm IP blocked from making new threads on /tv/, /v/ and /a/ - those are the only boards I've tested, I'm sure there's more. I wonder what kind of shitposter the mods were mad at

>>81951051
Reminder that I'm always going to vote no because I wanna see that dick

>>81951030
Is this on your internet plan or data plan?

>>81951077
phone data plan
I only have a gig a month and need it for when I'm on the train

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>>81951071
>aren't actually Cloister

Yet - I'll regenerate one day.

>Cloi Cloi never seemed to actually post at the SEAfag time.

Crossing one's own timestream for day-round coverage.

>>81951074
Ah, that'd be it.

>>81951093
I lose reception so consistently on the train that my data's pretty worthless on it :@

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Is there an updated version of this chart? The one I have is three years old at least.

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>>81950989
>>81951010

Aww, thanks boys

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kitty flanagan and tom gleisner were funny

>>81951129
>boys
Nah you're not alone here

>>81951118
Wew, that is pretty old, Dark Eyes 2 isn't even on there (GOAT structure).

I know there's a version of that chart more horizontally aligned, not sure if it's newer. We could probably make one anyway.

>>81951118
what's the best way to get the audiobooks?

>>81951135
When they cut to Charlie Pickering, that was the first time I cringed watching the show. But I just personally don't like him

>>81951152
Audiobookbay. You don't actually need to sign up for an account, you can just add their infohashes to your client.

Also buy the ones you really like.

>>81951152
audiobookbay DOT me

There might be a MEGA floating around, not sure

I've considered uploading my own collection to MEGA but I have a very specific way of organising the files that idk if anons would like or not

>>81951159
charlie's the least funny of the three

>>81951171
I can't stand him, he's so pretentious.

>>81951118
There's /who/ rates /who/ https://pastebin.com/0DWC7vWq

There's also an anon discussing some other audio recommendations right now on /lit/ >>>/lit/9408695

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REAL AUSSIE HOURS
SMASH THAT (YOU) BUTTON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEp4v5_JEcY

T h i n I c e c l i p

>>81951421
Looks kino, isnt it? At least cinematography

>>81951482
I agree!

>>81951482
you still owe us your dick after today

>>81951225
>There's also an anon discussing some other audio recommendations right now on /lit/
Wow, I'd never expect that from /lit/.

>>81951421
>tfw I've already seen it because Whovians shows Exclusive Clips
Looks good, throwing the lantern seems a bit odd though

Two episodes in and Bill is already a gorillion times better than that cunt Clara. I think she's great and also hotter desu.

>>81951636
ok

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>>81951636
>and also hotter
Delusional.

>>81951636

She oscillates between great and unbearable. I feel sorry for the actress having to labour under the garbage script Boyce produced, she's genuinely charismatic but so much of her dialogue just falls flat.

That's the second time they made an internet history joke with capaldi
it wasn't funny the first time

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>tfw this could be dollard's last episode because chibnall might want to start fresh with his own writers

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>tfw this could be dollard's last episode because chibnall might want to start fresh with his own writers

>>81951801
>doesnt even have a /who/ reaction image for the situation
somebody get this boardie away from me

>>81951780
Yeah Chibnall thinking of emulating an American writer's room, with only new writers no less, would be a very different approach. Could result in kino, but I'll be pretty disappointed if the new talent of Mathieson and Dollard doesn't carry over. Much as I dislike most of Gatiss' episodes, I'll be disappointed if the tradition of him doing an ep every series ends too, as it seems it will from the interview he gave where he said he had no knowledge of what Chibs is up to.

I still want Charlie Brooker to write an ep when he gets time. Bringing back some other writers from Classic Who could be cool too. Oh, and I'd love Paul Cornell to do another ep sometime.

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>tfw this could be dollard's last episode because chibnall might want to start fresh with his own writers

>>81951835
To be fair it sounds like chibbers has barely even started planning. It's not like he's assembled his writers team yet - it's entirely possible gatiss could still be involved

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>>81951835
>dollard
>talented

>>81951859
Very true. He's got nothing else to do but DW doesn't he now that Broadchurch is done though right?

>>81951877
well he's got that holiday to take first

>>81951896
A well earned one too - I thought Broadchurch S3 was great, and it has me excited to see what he'll do with Who, even though I'm not a particular fan of his DW episodes. Perhaps he's the sort of writer that needs a lot of control to shine. Certainly, him shadow-showrunning Torchwood S2 resulted in a better set of episodes than the individual stuff he wrote for S1.

>>81951835
I'm all for Chibnall bringing in new writers, I think change is very exciting. But yeah it would be a real pity to lose some of the fresh talent Moffat brought into the show in Capaldi's era.

>>81951860
Just because you don't like her tweets/gender doesn't make her untalented, anon.

>>81951896
And there's that play he wants to do, of course

I'm on Telstra and I post on my data all the time. I think 2 times I happen to have been assigned IP addresses randomly that happen to have had bans on them before, but it hasn't happened since early last year.

I thought Smile was a really solid episode considering Frank's last shitshow.

I also watched both episodes of Whovians and it's surprisingly good, plus quality Australian injokes.

Thin Ice looks interesting. Does anyone remember how we got the monster in the Thames idea so early last year?

>>81951896
Chibnall is a bullshitter.

Most if not all of Series 11 will already be written.

>>81951921
>Just because you don't like her gender
Ohhh of course! If you don't love her episodes you're a big smelly misogynist!

What were dollard's episodes?

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WE

>>81951921
>I'm all for Chibnall bringing in new writers, I think change is very exciting. But yeah it would be a real pity to lose some of the fresh talent Moffat brought into the show in Capaldi's era.

Pretty much. Mathieson and Dollard are just writers though, they haven't showran anything, so it's possible they'll actually get brought into the writer's room, if he goes in that direction. But I don't see anyone like Whithouse or Harness, who have actually ran TV shows before, doing that - it's typically more of a "junior" position.

>>81951963
Face the Raven last year (Trap Street, Clara dying). Thin Ice this year (frozen Thames, frost fair, some kind of sea serpent thing).

>>81951923
I think he probably has his ideas sketched out more than he says - Moff is writing the Xmas special atm and he said he needed to know where Chibnall wanted the series and the Doctor "parked" before writing it, so they've got that much at least.

>>81951968
are both companions of the doctor
nice touch desu

4.25 million viewers overnight is bad, right...?

>>81951995
Quite bad, but people will continue to defend it.

>b-but the overnights!

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>>81951995
>It's a complain about the ratings thread

I'm ready...

>>81951995
It's the new normal. People don't value watching TV live anymore unless it's one of those reality shows with timed voting

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>>81951565
B-but Bill a cute. CUTE!

>>81951995
>it's a 'people complain about the ratings despite there being a drop across the board' thread

>>81952040
Are you seriously denying a massive drop in viewership in the last 10 years?

>>81952051
did you even read that post or are you that easily put into cognitive dissonance?
That anon clearly said that the ratings drops are universal. How the fuck did you interpret that as denying a viewership drop?

>>81952051
>people stop watching live tv
>being surprised that this affects doctor who as well

wew lad

>>81952079
>>81952089
>being this delusional
>n-nobody watches tv anymore reeeeee

>>81952116
I see

>>81951995
Better than s9ep2, which only got 3.7 million.

I'll optimistically predict s10 episodes will have higher average viewing figures than s9. Plus Simm and the regeneration episodes will draw in more viewers as the series goes on.

>>81952196
>3.7million
JUST

>>81952116
ratings across the board prove they don't, with the exception of time-dependent realityshit

>>81952020
nah m8

I don't think we can underestimate the impact Simm will have on the ratings. As frustrating as we find the stuff like Facebook posts of people moaning "BRING BACK RTD AND TENNANT", there really is a sizeable amount of people who think that way, and will be very energised by such an iconic part of RTD's era returning.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, and it will have barely any effect at all, but I do think Simm will provide quite the boost. If he does pop up in the Truth Monk eps, as some unreliable spoilerhounds have postulated, he may be the secret weapon to combat the midseries slump in ratings.

>the Vardies murdered dozens of people
>they're innocent of this crime because they're justmindless machines following their programming
>but also they're conscious and you shouldn't treat them as slaves and they deserve the rights of real sentient creatures

feels messy t b h

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>>81952333
>mfw simm's return in the finale results in 10 million live viewers

>>81952359
It's insane how much neater the idea people have kicked around off "the emojibots experience grief when that dude shoots one of them, then either independently, or with a helpful lecture from the Doctor, learn how to process grief properly and thus understand and get along with the humans" is. What was Boyce thinking!?

>>81952384
Heh, or at the very least, 40 people in /casualwhostream/

>>81952333
You have a point, assuming they market it properly
It's entirely possible that normies didn't recognise simm in last week's trailer since it was dark and he had a beard - I watched the episode with my dad and I had to point it out to him, and he's a moderate doctor who fan (he grew up with it and knows the show well but doesn't follow production news)
I'm sure a lot of them still don't know, and they need to in order for the ratings bump to happen

>>81952402
>What was Boyce thinking!?
"I want to make a "turn it off and on again" joke"

At what point did capaldi say "bollocks" in the last episode? I don't remember hearing it but they gushed about it in whovians

>>81952359
The humans didn't really even mistreat the Vardi. It seemed pretty harmonious at the start. But I guess it wasn't an entirely happy ending. The humans are just told to smile and forget about it. More than likely, the rest of the Earthlings won't be told about the incident after they wake up.

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>>81952384
>mfw the BBC concludes that referencing RTD is the only way to success

>>81952423
I agree, and that's why I'm sure that they intended Simm's appearence to get leaked when they screened The Pilot (and thus that trailer) to the press. "JOHN SIMM RETURNS TO DOCTOR WHO" in the tabloids gets to people better than a 1 second flash of a bearded Simm in the dark.

Perhaps the NEXT TIME before whatever episode he first appears in will lean heavily on his appearance. Who knows? Maybe they'll bungle the marketing potential and barely advertise it more than a flash again.

>>81952485
>More than likely, the rest of the Earthlings won't be told about the incident after they wake up.
I find that kind of hard to believe desu. Every single person who woke up early would keep the reason their mutual loved ones were dead a secret?

>>81952507
Are we confident that Simm will be in the finale?

>>81952479
He definitely didn't, though "arse" has been in all episodes so far this series.

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>>81952316
yeah m8

>>81952521
Well according to FCB, we all somehow forget that forests just.. happen.. whenever there's a solar flare.
Compared to that, lying to keep the peace seems very reasonable.

>>81952563
>this is a 10/10 in bongland

>>81952558
I wonder if there have been many complaints about it
Missy said "bitch" last series and got away with it. What are the watershed rules like in the UK? Which swears are allowed during primetime?

>>81952563
yeah nah

>>81952563
Why is she so much uglier on the show? Do the makeup people ugg her up for some uggo acceptance agenda?

>>81952583
I have a more reasonable explanation
FCB episodes aren't canon

http://gallifreybase.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244172

Now even GB are getting in on the watersports business. We've gone fucking mainstream lads.

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Bill is the best companion since Rose. Prove me wrong. You literally can't.

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>>81952589
>watershed

>>81952640
Half of our GB accounts were banned m8

>>81952549
Yes. He filmed scenes for it on the streets of Cardiff. And to be fair, the #dwsr crowd kept it secret, only for it to be intentionally leaked by the Sun, which really pissed them off.

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>>81951984
>Mathieson and Dollard are just writers though, they haven't showran anything
Dollard has, actually. She created a Welsh comedy-drama called Cara Fi in 2014. She also started her career in the Neighbours writers room and worked there for years, so she's definitely familiar with the position.

>I think he probably has his ideas sketched out more than he says
I think it would be impossible not to. I never bother writing and I've obviously never done it in a professional setting, but I'm constantly thinking of ideas and scenes and stuff. If you knew a huge show was being handed over to you soon, you wouldn't be able to turn your brain off to all the ideas.

>>81952641

Nah Donna is

Rose > Donna > Amy = Clara > Martha = Bill honestly

>>81952563
i agree, she's ugly, but cute.

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>>81952588
Nah.

>Pic related a 10/10 in bongland.

Pearl only 8/10.

>>81952641
She's certainly better when she's not the center of attention. Or at least, not the center of a played out, uninteresting "This Doctor fella is kind of weird" story.
I also really like how she isn't hyper competent. Clara would have solved the mystery all by herself AND called the Doctor stupid for the rest of the episode. Bill was there, she asked questions, she was good with the kid, and she found the dead woman. That's about it. She's great support and Pearl Mackie sells it.

>>81952507
His appearance could also be in a cliffhanger, which would give the media a whole week to prep unaware audiences to watch the following episode.

The only reason I think it might not be a cliffhanger is because they intentionally gave it away so early.

>>81952641
>Donna>Bill>Amy>Rose>>>>>>>>Martha>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Clala

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>>81952589
>Bill and the Doctor get implants allowing them to communicate over great distances
>Bill immediately inquires as to whether it can be used to transmit pissing sounds
We thought S10 had got all its watersports out of the way with The Pilot. We were wrong.

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>>81952777
Trips confirmed

>>81952723
Oh my bad, I had no idea Dollard had ran a show. Have you seen it; is it any good?

>I think it would be impossible not to. I never bother writing and I've obviously never done it in a professional setting, but I'm constantly thinking of ideas and scenes and stuff. If you knew a huge show was being handed over to you soon, you wouldn't be able to turn your brain off to all the ideas.

Totally. Even more than that, I'm pretty sure any big Doctor Who fan has at least a few ideas for "if I ran the show, what would I do".

>>81952805
Very good points

>>81952641
Bill is a great companion but Rose was fucking trash

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I posted this after a thread split so nobody saw it so I'll do so again.

Any love for Death Comes To Time? This was the BBC's first Dr Who content since the series ended back in the day.

Although it cannot be canonical.

Not keen on the Ace storyline but everything about it seems pretty cool to me. Very strong cast, good production values. The Minister of Chance is too interesting a character to leave on the shelf.

>>81951985
Who?

>>81952930
Remember dinosaurs on a spaceship? Queen Nefertiti was a companion

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>>81952844
>Oh my bad, I had no idea Dollard had ran a show.
I was pretty surprised too. I don't know how much of a traditional Showrunner she was though, but she's credited as "Creator" for every episode. Although "Writer" for only 3.

>Have you seen it; is it any good?
I've only seen two or three episodes, because they were all I could find on Youtube. No idea how I'd get my hands on the whole series, it's all in Welsh so it seems fairly obscure.

I liked it. It's sort of like a Soap, but it seemed decent. That "ARE YOU WORTHY OF THE HORNS?" is a screencap from one of the episodes by the way (as is this).

>>81952889
Is that Stephen Fry on the cover?

>>81952952
>Remember dinosaurs on a spaceship?
I'd rather not

>>81952964
I like her style t bh, I really do hope Chibs keeps her on. Moff surely had his hands deep in Face the Raven, so it will be interesting to see Thin Ice, an ep where she presumably flexed her own writing more.

>>81952986
Yeah he plays the minister

>>81952986
No, it's a drawing of Stephen Fry

>>81952993
you're going to have to since the writer of that one's going to be showrunner in less than a year

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>>81952999
Oh I just checked again and she's also credited as "Executive Producer", so she was definitely Showrunner. It's funny to imagine an Australian running a Welsh show.

I like her style too and I envy her job a lot.

>>81952889
>The Minister of Chance is too interesting a character to leave on the shelf.
I haven't listened to it but my impression was that he's just kind of a shit stand-in for the Doctor. What's interesting about him?

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Death Comes To Time has an animated comic(?) thing as well, it was developed as web content. You can watch it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOJYM_FxuVQ

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>mfw I will never write for Doctor Who

>>81953179
Is it even worth watching these "animations"?
They all look shit and my imagination could do a better job.

>>81953239
>implying anyone would want to even read your scripts

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>>81953239
I know that feel, anon.

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>>81953239
>>81953268

>>81953239
There's no canon, any story you write is legitimate as Moffat's. It just lacks the budget, support, backing, et cetera...but if you have a great idea for a story, why not write it anyway? It's all Who

>>81953250
I agree really. Its 16 years old and the BBC was experimenting with how to make web content at the time.

The Shada fix-up was done in a similar way. It wouldn't entirely surprise me if there was some sort of demarcation politics issue vs. radio production.

>>81952806
I'm about to make the exact same reply. Are you me?

Call me a normie or whatever you want, I love Peter Capaldi as an actor, but his Doctor is too alien for me.
I cant relate to him.
I really hope Chibnall will make this character less alien.

>>81953664
>this alien is too alien for me

>>81953664
Out of curiosity, who are your favourite Doctors?

>>81953664
>muh relatability
Fuck off back to Game of Thrones.

>>81953562
No friend but it's pleasing to know I share a board with people with impeccable taste in companions.

>>81953664
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>81953664
>I can't relate to the 2,000 year old time travelling alien

That's what the companion is for. The best Doctors (Tom Baker, Capaldi) are the most alien. Smith was alright in that sense too but what he did really well was portraying the old man in the young body even if he's not my favourite Doctor.

>>81953664
you relate to the companion, not the alien, you silly billy

>>81953751
9th and 5th

12 looks like Bill Nye if he decided to go on a killing spree

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>>81953664
>Doctor is too alien

>>81953727
>>81953764
>>81953783
Pretty embarrassing responses, buds.

>>81953814
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>81953814

>>81953864
>>81953849
I don't get it.

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>>81953814

>>81953814
9 is a solid choice but I thought he was pretty unrelatable.

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>>81953664
>>81953814

>complaints about "le doctor is too alien"
>ranks 9 that high

>>81953814
>I can't relate to the 12th Doctor, he's too alien
>But I love the guy who wears celery on his coat

>>81953814
>le i cant relate to 12 who undergoes a very coherent character arc
>but le quirky celery man who literally only has any character development in ONE serial is le best xD rawr! *glomps davison*

ITT
>wtf i hate peter davison now

>>81954039
i love 5, especially in the audios, but he's barely a character in the show. 12 has an infinitely more human, relatable, empathetic character and arc

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dude celery lmao

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>>81954026
>this was the first picture I did for /who/ and it was of 5's timedong
regret

>>81953814
I have no idea why you're getting so many (you)'s for this. You were really humble about your opinion, I think it might just be someone going overboard.

9 and 5 are both solid Doctors.

>>81954098
Will you ever draw more Doctor penii?

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>>81954120
>9 and 5 are both solid Doctors.

*snort*

>>81953664
>boo hoo i wish chibnall would make the alien less like an actual alien

let's hope he doesn't. RTD soiled the show by doing that with 10, its the reason why we have so many people like you who don't understand what is literally one of the most basic elements of the doctor's personality. its also why we have people clamouring for a doctor/companion relationship all the time.

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>>81954120
>9 and 5 are both solid Doctors.

>>81954128
>you

>>81954156
>>81954183
At least this confirms to me that it is just one person memeing, thanks.

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>>81954090
>not posting the superior version

>>81954165
>>81953664
>>81953808

Peter Capaldi, the man himself, has a nuanced and well-expressed opinion on the whole "how alien should the Doctor be". Really recommend watching the video to hear it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8O2sIh0yq8

One way or another, the companion absolutely has always been intended (in NewWho) to be the most relatable character out of the Doctor/companion pairing.

>>81954204
yup, the idea of more than one person disagreeing with you is so preposterous is simply must be le single hater xD who could believe out that TWO or more people could disagree with you!? absolutely crazy. your opinions are objectively right, and anyone disagreeing with you is just le samefag troll!

>>81954213
>>81954165
>>81953664
>>81953808

Relevant bit starts at 3:20 btw

Is cloister back in hospital again?

>>81954285
Wraith was posting just a few threads back saying he liked Smile.

>>81954303
>he

wtf i love frank cottrell boyce now

People on this thread earlier indicated they don't like the War Doctor box sets? What's the story with that?

>>81954684
They're legitimately terrible.

>>81954684
>Oh no... I've entered...... THE NULL ZONE!

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>>81954684
Even fucking Christel made fun of how shit they are

>>81954693
>>81954704
dang that's a shame. Still keen to give them a listen, if only to hear John Hurt as The Doctor again.

>>81954684
The Time War is nowhere near as temporally fucked up as anyone expected it to be, it's basically just a regular space war but all the weapons have "time" slapped onto their names.

The plot of Dark Eyes 1 was more like a "Time War" battle than anything of the actual Time War we've been shown.

>>81954742
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the 50th + the audios = Hurt did as much time as the Doctor as Eccleston, lol. It's nice to hear him play the role. The writing is just appallingly bad. I'm a massive Big Finish fan so I'm not just randomly shitting on them (of their New stuff, I think Torchwood and River Song are legit kino), they're bizarrely bad. Combination of Briggs committing to extremely standard, lame stories, and apparently the BBC said they couldn't depict the WarDoc particularly dark (annoying since 7 is depicted super dark in the audios plenty of times).

For good Time War stories on audio, there are
*The Sontaran Ordeal - Classic Doctors, New Monsters
uhh, what else, Dark Eyes and Doom Coalition are kinda at the very very start of the Time War, very early days before it explodes into all-out war. Dark Eyes is great (I love all 4 to varying degrees, some people only think the first set is great), DC3 and DC4 are pretty good.

>>81954838
The biggest missed opportunity was not bringing back the Dalek Time Controller.

Yes I know he became the Eminence but that's never stopped anybody before.

Briggs's performance as the Dalek Time Strategist just doesn't have the personality behind it that the Dalek Time Controller had.

>>81954128
Knowing me? Probably Ten at some point.

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>The War Doctor box-sets are bad

Tragic.

>>81955119
I thought they were alright.
Not great, but certainly not bad.

>>81955071
You could draw Ten and Meta-Crisis Ten getting up to all sorts of no good together!

>>81955055
The Dalek Time Controller was some of Briggs' finest acting.

>>81955119
It's disappointing, but so much of their other NewWho stuff is GOAT that I can live with it.

>>81955169
>You

(Doctor Who) has been hijacked and redefined as a lucrative modern franchise. They've literally taken a square peg and painfully made it fit a round hole by taking enormous liberties with much of its fundamental essence. There's no turning back now.

>>81955055
>spoiler
He did?
I only got as far as DE2 on my relisten before deciding to listen to everything in chrological order.

>>81955190
>>81954198
>>81954335
t. mongo

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>>81955169
DON'T ENABLE ME

Anyone else feel bad that nuwho took the direction of space fantasy rather than sci fi?
Ecclestone's season was closest to "sci fi" as I imagine it, and I loved it. Most of RTD era follows that but in the end it becomes more and more fantasy-like.

>>81955166
I've only listened to the first story of the first one, but this is the first time I've ever seen people actually talking about the stories. I'll give them a listen soon, and form my own opinion.
>>81955169
Haven't listening to their NuWho stories, but I have listened to New Monsters, and just loved it. Forgot I listened to the thing though.

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>>81955255
>ywn get to see Edge's steamy 10/10 10xmeta10 drawings

>me

>>81955291
Doesn't really bother me, a good story's a good story regardless of genre, but I know some people are more particular about that sort of thing.

>>81955294
It's easy to get swept up in "WOW John Hurt, an actual War Doctor series!", even I did for the first set for a bit, but the rest of the day after listening, the more I reflected on them, the more and more I disliked what we got. And then the next 3 sets did not fix things at all, for me personally. Definitely worth forming your own opinion on though, I imagine surely there are some people that Briggs Finish's particular take would work great for.

Classic Doctors New Monsters was rather good wasn't it? I loved 8s and 6s stories particularly. Their NewWho output is really great for the most part (not so keen on the new UNIT stuff or WarDoc, but River, Torchwood, Tennant, all great).

>>81955352
>me

>>81955119
Second boxset is pretty decent. First I don't think I ever managed to finish, the third I definitely never managed to finish - got bored to death by the time he met Leela.

>>81955255
Selfcest is best cest

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>>81955318
>>81955456
Even better when you consider that Ten's the most likely out of any Doctor to end up banging himself, he's vain as fuck.

>>81955415
>you

(You)

I've watched first three seasons of Doctor Who and quite like it
My favorite episodes is the one he becomes human and smith and jones
And impossible planet
And Dalek
It's been pretty clear the time lord a species
But when I was discussing it with my fella he said that Time Lords arent species but more like a university degree
And I was like what the fuck

Is this supposed to be revealed later or I'm just stupid?

>>81955489
You'd be surprised.

>`I knew Puccini once,’ sighed Eight,
>`He had the softest lips.’ That’s great,
>But stay away from me, you sissy,’
>Four looked cautious, Eight looked kissy.
>Three o'clock, the Queen appeared,
>The Third, all patriotic,cheered,
>But Eight, lips puckered, mistletoe handy,
>Went for the clown and got the dandy.
>Tried again to get the clown,
>But got a slap, so settled down.
This is from ‘Short Trips: A Christmas Treasure’
Selfcest is canonical.

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>Wake up as David Tennant
>What do?

>>81955577
It doesn't really matter in the context of the show, but the idea is that being Gallifreyan is a race, and only some Gallifreyans get the required education to become a Time Lord. I don't think they ever mention this in the TV series at all though, I think it's only established in some of the books.

>>81955577
Not sure if spoilers or not, but fuck it: Time Lords are basically just Gallifreyans who can time travel + regenerate,
more or less. The Doctor's a Gallifreyan, and a Time Lord. Here, it's Classic Who spoilers: In the original run, they planned on making one of his companion,
Ace, a Time Lord, which could've meant that she could time travel and regenerate,
or time travel. In the Gallifrey audio series,
it seems to imply the latter rather than the former.

>>81955577
>my fella
His Mommy

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>>81955577

>>81955577
Yeah it's like a university degree and they receive a Rassilon Imprimatur allowing them to pilot a TARDIS when they enter the Gallifreyan Academy.

The TLs are the elite caste of Gallifreyan society, there are Shabogans and Outsiders outside Gallifrey who are highly looked down upon.

Ace McShane is a Time Lord because she's a human who went through the Academy. By the time Romana came to presidency the Academy allowed aliens to learn time travel.

>>81955602

>anyone I want

>>81955659
Mummy, are you my mummy?

>>81955690
No, I don't touch heroin, anon.

>tfw Adams on Whovians called In The Forest Of The Night fucking bullshit

kek

>>81955926
Where can I watch Whovians without downloading

>>81955926
Well he's not wrong

>>81955951
iView if youre Australian

maybe you can VPN an aus server if you dont wanna download and youre not australian

>>81955958
true that

CASUALWHOSTREAM

/WHOVIANS/ STREAM WHEN?

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>>81955995
>tfw watching it on my own because no one is streaming it atm

that scottish joke was a little insensitive imo, what are your opinions guys?

>>81956129
Back to gallifrey base

https://cytu be/r/casualwhostream
two blind wave reaction videos (they are watching it for the first time)
1x1 and 1x2
about 45 mins total

Starting in 30 mins
get in

>>81956145
why not just watch whovians tho

>>81956193
because its not uploaded yet

>>81956206
It is though? Check last thread. Whoviananon uploaded it on Mega.

>>81956219
I mean on dailymotion or googledrive so its actually watchable on cytube

>>81956237
why not do it yourself? id do it friend but my aus upload speeds are terrible

>>81955926
he really is /ourguy/, isn't he? except for his delusional theories

>>81956135
what?

>>81956321
He truly is.

Pretty fun ep, I love Rove referencing Big Finish totally off the cuff, Teagan is cute, the only person I don't really like is the young dude.

Just got in, is there a link to ep 2 of Whovians?

Blindwave reactions on stream after this boxset review video ends
on casualwhostream

>>81956380
Ignore this just found it

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>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Who%27s_Who_(TV_story)

>>81956389
and yes probably whovians after that

>Build robots to look after you
>They kill you
>Answer is to pay them rent to stop them killing you

Wanna know how I know the BBC wrote this?

>>81952641
I like to think of them in ways that they pissed me off and who did it the least.

Rose: Wanted Doctor dick and thought she was the most important person in his entire life (meeting Sarah Jane was a very comfy to watch reality check for her)
Martha: Wanted Doctor dick but apart from that there wasn't that much annoying about her (apart from her bitch mum) except for being rather boring
Donna: Can't really find a fault, thought she was great.
Amy: Wanted Doctor dick, thought she was the most important person in his life, treated Rory like shit in the beginning - however, once Rory joined the crew it balanced out Amy's negatives somewhat so she was at least better than Rose.
Clara: Just fucking awful smug bitch. Don't have time to list everything wrong with her. Also wanted Doctor dick until Capaldi.
Bill: #lolI'msorandom, can manage first after first on uni papers but can't get her arse into gear to do anything else with her life, purely made just to appease tumblr and twitter people. Less punchable than Clara though.

Donna>Amy>Rose>Martha>Bill>Clara

casualwhostream

blindwave series 1 reaction then whovians
in 5 mins
get in

its starting

>>81954684
Because for all the talk of War being the incarnation all the other Doctors refuse to talk about, he isn't particularly monstrous or pragmatic in any of the audios. If anything, he's nicer than quite a few other Doctors. Big Finish never makes a case for why he's the dreaded incarnation instead of Seven.

>>81956710
7, 10, even fucking late-era-8 are more monstrous than War, it's silly.

>>81956571
Bill was made as an attempt to reconnect with viewers by having a 'normal', simple and friendly companion, as opposed to a strange, complicated and at times dangerous one. Being black and gay are just bonuses.

End of the world reaction coming

>>81957083
I don't think a character that is completely ignorant of basic sci-fi tropes would resonate well with audience.

GET IN CASUALWHOSTREAM
IN
CASUALWHOSTREAM

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>>81956129
>Scots break from the UK.
>Scots stay in EU.
>This is independence??

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Greetings, greetings, greetings! Well, I seem to be stuck in the sodding Time Vortex, AGAIN! So I can’t assist you. This is one of the many regrets in my life. Goodbye, my dears!

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>>81956541
That's capitalism!!

Um, did 12 actually say 'bollocks' at any point during Smile? I don't remember that

>>81956571
>implying Clala didn't lust for the capaldick

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Reminder
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m
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d
e
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Remember when 10 got Harriet Jones impeached even though the Sycorax were a band of slavers who killed innocent prisoners and were likely to come back with reinforcements, Harriet's belief that they need weapons because the Doctor's not always around is proven right again over and over thanks to the 456 and the Shadow Kin, and this erases the new Golden Age of Britain that Nine marveled at in the last season?

>>81957565
I always found that to be unnecessarily shitty of 10. Hell, doing such a thing led to the Master becoming prime minister, et cetera...

>>81957565
Ten was a bit of a spastic 2bh

>>81957565
Is there a more judgmental Doctor than him?

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Reminder that 7 had already interacted with the Sycorax

>>81957608
Isn't that basically his arc? Arrogant decision in his first episode eventually leads to his death in the Master/Rassilon incident?

>>81957083
I don't see her as normal though, the quirkyness factor is a main point, i know it's the scriptwriter but she just has the perfect comeback for everything to make light of something the doctor says. no one would go into the tardis and compare it to a kitchen, and then ask for the toilet. and on a sidenote why was she so enthralled about being on a spaceship in Smile when she's already been in one (two if it's a ship that the daleks and Movellans were fighting on). Being black and gay doesn't matter either, but the fact they're trying to make it matter is annoying. We've had black assistants (martha, mickey briefly) and it didn't matter that they were black. We had a gay assistant in Captain Jack and the focus wasn't on the fact he was gay/bi but the fact that he was a horny bugger that would sleep with everything.

whovians is on
casualwhostream

>>81957938
no thanks

>>81956129
No, it's true, the Scots aren't happy with anything.

>>81957889
Pretty sure you're right, but I don't think many people realized that he fucked himself up.

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Reminder that Sixie had already interacted with the Judoon

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Reminder that 8 had already interacted with the Sontarans ;^)

>>81958037
>judoon in chains

KINKY
I
N
K
Y

Doctor Who is now a lower rated show than All Round to Mrs Brown's

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>It's a multi-Master episode

>>81958144
But All Round to Mrs Brown's got zero viewers in BBC America.

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>>81958144
Not entirely surprising; Mrs Brown's fans are insanely dedicated

>>81958207
Beevers and MacQueen are genuinely two of the best Masters

>>81958037
But that's fine
The Doctor didn't act like he didn't know what the Judoon were in Smith and Jones

>>81958283
For sure. UNIT Dominion is absolute kino.

>>81958299
I'm just memeing m8, Classic Doctors New Monsters was well-handled. Plus Judoon in Chains is a really cute story.

>>81958222

>muh international broadcasters

BBC is legally unable to consider stuff like this due to the charter agreement. They are a public service broadcaster, if the show isn't getting enough BRITISH views to justify the investment, which it isn't, then it WILL be cancelled.

>>81958356
But Doctor Who is moving to BBC Studios.

>>81958356
Sounds like somebody's jealous their beloved Mrs Brown's Boys doesn't air in America.

>>81957886
What does this mean?

>>81958356
There there

>>81958472
The Seventh Doctor had interacted with the alien species "the Sycorax" before the Tenth Doctor did, in terms of fictional chronology. In real-world chronology, the Sycorax were invented for Tennant's first episode, the 2005 Christmas special.

>>81958222
But it got viewers on RTE

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>>81958553
>bone masks
>signals carried biologically
>"a cheap bit of voodoo"
Hmm

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>>81958091
I remember

>>81958641
>written by Dorney
>awesome title
>mcgann and macqueen

Kino

>>81958617
>Miles was the first person to ever invent the concept of bone masks or aliens using voodoo
I don't get the idea that the Sycorax are ripped off from the Faction. They don't act like FP at all. The Faction wouldn't want to enslave a third of 2005-era humanity. The Sycorax just seemed more like tribal warlords than anything else.

>>81951010
>New episode of Whovians is up >>81950666 → - includes Rove namedropping Big Finish off the cuff!
Thanks.

>>81958238
What the fuck is that to the bottom left of granddad? It's like a mother of three's nipple

Are there "iconic" scenes/moments from Big Finish? Like how everyone talks about the "Do I have the right" line in Genesis, or Seven in the cafe talking about unforeseen ripples?

>>81958757
Absolutely, do you want a list of some?

>>81958757
None that I could generally speak of, but personally, Arrangements for War is possibly the first Big Finish story that stood out for me. No clue why, I saw the cover again today and memories of the story flooded back.

>>81958356
>he doesn't know Doctor Who is now co-funded by BBCA

>>81958757
Davros being given the choice for euthanasia.
Eight and Charley arguing over what their relationship is.
Gallifreyan Buccaneer
Lucie Bleedin' Miller

>>81952359
>The Vardies recognise when one of their own race is murdered, seek vengeance
>but they don't know murder is bad though!

Really makes you think

>>81958757

>"Edward Grove is alive" (from The Chimes of Midnight)
>the climax of ...Ish
>the farm scene in Master
>the bomb scene in Davros
>the big moment in A Death in the Family
>the absolute bloodbath in To the Death
>Rassilon sperming over the universe in Zagreus
>Pretty much the entirety of Scherzo
>Time War 8 as Frankenstein in Mary's Story
>the climax of Signs when you realise what's happened
>The twist ending of The Natural History of Fear

i could go on, there's tonnes of great, iconic moments

>>81958780
Sure - all I can really think of is when Six does the Gallifreyan Buccaneer song

>>81958935
>Time War 8
Oh, that's when he was meant to be from?

>>81958956
Fuck, I forgot that one of all things haha, but I listed some others just above you >>81958935

dr who morelike dr poo

>smile
At least it was better than Forest... right?

>>81958989
Yeah, it was one of the few times Big Finish sneakily got some New Series stuff in before they had the license. It's one of 8s latest stories chronologically.

Also it was pre WarDoc so he could have been conceived of as an active fighter in the Time War at that point too

>>81958989
>it's a "Big Finish assumed 8 would be the one who fought in the Time War and made awful decisions that would haunt the rest of his incarnations before Moffat decided casting John Hurt would be cool" audio

>>81958994
XD

>>81959048
Ahgrrrrrrrr fuck I hate the idea of the War Doctor, much as I love John Hurt and his performance.

>le "will there be a lot of kissing in future" asks a post-8 incarnation

>>81958757
https://youtu.be/dr8xrPWchgY

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>>81959048
tfw headcanon that 8 originally did do all that shit, regenerated right into 9, then went Rose went all Bad Wolf she rewrote his timeline and became the Moment to try and find a way to ease the Doctor's pain and prevent him killing his people

>>81958839
>Eight and Charley arguing over what their relationship is.
Which one's that?

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I should have noticed this sooner.

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Didn't realize that Steadfast had a fucking name

Great characterization this week, guys, I love it when people are used as nameless chess pieces

>>81959150
The Veiled Leopard, The Reaping, The Gathering, and the Harvest are a loose quadrilogy about a Cybermen invasion.

>>81959171
kek, I love filling those out

>>81959190
Is it any good? I've not heard about any Cyberman audios apart from Spare Parts, The Silver Turk or Sword of Orion.

>>81959190
I meant their release numbers.
How does Veiled Leopard fit in?

>>81959295
They're worth the listen, and I always find it fun to go through an arc in that order instead of by the Doctors. Like you switch up Doctors, but get the Cybermen stuff coherent.

>>81959312
IIRC the ending links directly up with the gathering? its been a while

>>81959171
>emojibots a 1

>>81959401
;) good move "Harvesting" that post away

>>81959401
>The Gathering is Hex's first story.
What? The Harvest is Hex's first.

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I acquired my Big Finish collection in remarkable circumstances.

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>>81959476
Yes, I admit it. I got confused.

>>81959533
>not acquiring through sales and subscriptions
baka

>>81959577
I do actually buy some ranges, but not nearly as many as Briggs would want

>>81959171
>Great characterization this week, guys, I love it when people are used as nameless chess pieces
I sense that you're saying this sarcastically, but I'm not sure what the problem is.

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>>81959636
u fucking wot m8

>>81959683
I paid for your shitty WarDoc range and now I resent giving you money Briggs

I pay for Torchwood kino, happy?

Speaking of Hex, I just finished Lurkers at Sunlight's Edge fairly recently, but heard his ending is pretty shite. How true is this? Hex is my favorite BF companion and I'd hate to hear him go out like a punk.

>>81959743
Is Torchwood actually kino?

I'm not sure if getting into this range as well would be a good move

>>81959808
disregard this, Christell fucking Dee gets a role.
kino CONFIRMED

https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/the-lives-of-captain-jack-1519

Yes, I'm including this as a Torchwood release despite it taking place before and after Torchwood

>>81959808
Yeah it's legit great, I love it, the individual stories especially. VERY comfy. VERY well constructed stories. There's no Briggs/Fitton-esque "le generic episode of the TV show adapted with a recurring villain, fuck characterisation" approach, it feels like it's own thing even though it's in tight continuity with the TV show (it even finds ways to retcon Miracle Day to work better).

Seriously worth a try at least. Fall to Earth and Ghost Mission might be good taste testers, the former is a very standalone story but really well-told, the latter is SUPER comfy.

>>81959808
It's pretty great. First episode is kinda standard, then it gets to proper Torchwood stories like killer sexbot doppelgangers.

nu thred

>>81959932
>>81959932
>>81959932

>>81955238
Yes, he did. It's the big reveal at the end of DE4. He's only one half of it, though.

Are you here? Let's talk...

>>81959765
I liked it, but it was a bit okay, nothing too big.

Come out come out and play...we have so much to talk about copy-anon...

>>81961397
>copy-anon
Who dis?

>>81961520
You're not him Cloister...there's this anon who I have a little game with hehe........I promise not to troll you this time copy-anon...let's have ourselves a chat........................I want to find out how you work...

>>81961617
>You're not him Cloister
I'm aware, I was just curious as to their defining characteristics as well as the game.

Last of the /who/lords coming through