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>Movie PORN IS BAD FOR WOMEN! >Show PORN IS EMPOWERING

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>Movie
PORN IS BAD FOR WOMEN!
>Show
PORN IS EMPOWERING TO WOMEN!

Which one is it Rashida?
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Hold on OP, lemme check my Sociology textbook.
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The production and distribution of pornography should be punishable by public stoning unto death. The possession or consumption of pornography should be punishable by public branding and five years penance of prayer and service to the poor.
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>>81942492

Okay, Rasheed.
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>>81942557
Christian, actually.
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>>81942492
Based Ahmed
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>>81942492
Absolutely based. Maybe this will pull our degenerate society out of the gutter
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>>81942591
Someone already made that implication.
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>>81942572
explains your stone age intelligence
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>>81942572
Sorry, Christian here, forgot pic.
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>>81942492
This
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>>81942297
>Rashida
lol, those fucking made up names. Now you will tell me there's actually people called Jamal
HAHAHAH FOR FUCK SAKE
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>you are now aware that Rashida Jones watched Blacked porn
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/apr/21/rashida-jones-pornography-netflix-hot-girls-wanted
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>>81942692
My IQ has been formally clinically evaluated by an accredited psychologist under controlled conditions to be in the high 99th percentile, making me among the most intelligent people in the world, and I have found my employ in a highly challenging field of scientific academia, and I have contributed several papers to the corpus of human knowledge. You now realizes that the greatest intellects that humanity has ever produced, from Aquinas to Newton, have all been devout Christians. I will not return your insult, for you have not insulted me. I bid you good day, Sir.
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I'm gonna post Czech pornstars until somebody finally makes a documentary about them
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>>81942984
I got you senpai
https://youtu.be/8qO3moSTaGY
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>>81942970
>Aquinas
>intellect
Aquinas was a bullshit artist of a highest order who produced NOTHING of value his entire life.

And by the way, jews win the most nobel prizes and control everything, not your precious christfags. Turn before it's too late, goyim.
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>women who are paid thousands of dollars to masturbate by people like me who have to pay for the attention of women through my hard labour for a measly pay, tell me I am privileged

wew
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>>81943017
rused ťbh
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Anyone else watched this and then looked up the girls and their most depraved scenes afterwards?
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>>81943051
The Angelic Doctor founded the philosophical and theological school of Thomism, which laid the foundation for everything that followed. You wouldn't be typing your lies on a printing press, let alone a computer, if it wasn't for Aquinas, you Christ-killer.
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>>81943140
That's the only reason I watch these.
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>>81943128
my faves are anna 8153, pavla 0112 and lucie 5334 (the teacher who got fired when students found her video)
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>>81943232
>anna 8153

Why? She couldn't do anything.
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>Hot Girls Wanted thread
>immediately degenerates into a debate about the merits of Thomistic philosophy

Every time.
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>>81942492
Fine, but only if you legalize loli sex slaves
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>>81943284
>>81943284
she was boring to watch but i don't think i've seen a prettier woman in my life
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>tfw you find out your grandma did porn but you can't find any of it

A real shitty feel.
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>>81943323
Looks like my brother, but with smaller tits and fridge-like body

No wonder women can get away with so much shit, men have there standards 6 foot below the floorboard
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>>81943051
your a dorable
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>>81943389
is your brother female?
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>>81943323
Looks kind of cute but otherwise nothing special. But whatever.
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>>81943389

Your brother got Skype? You wanna sell him?
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Porn used to be seen as disgusting and misogynistic and then all of these virgin fucktard numale cuckbeards from /pol/ started this nofap bullshit and it's seen as good again.
People are fucking dumb.
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>>81942694
nice DSLs homoshit
I can smell the fucking AIDs from here.
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>>81943153
>>81943417
Still waiting for an actual intellectual achievement, retardos.
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>>81943545
huh? 99% of people in the real world know nothing about /pol/ or no fap shit. porn is popular and it's getting less and less taboo to talk about it so you see shows getting made. literally nothing to do with /pol/
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>>81942297
>for porn
>against porn
>jewish
it's all about chasing that dollar, anon
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>>81942297
What is the conspiracy behind porn?
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Claim your czech pornfu
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>>81943690
7561
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>>81943843
Good choice
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>>81943545
Do you really think /pol/ started pro sex feminism? You are an embarrassment.
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>>81943904
Whats with the numbers? Is this how many different guys they've fucked?
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>>81943999
You're a smart boy, you'll figure it out
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>>81943690
The thicc, girl next door.
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None of those chicks have even slightly big tits.

Czech is a shit.
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>>81944151
>>81944215
>>81944254
>>81944487
>>81944553
I unironically have fucked girls hotter than all of them you have posted ITT and I'm no prince. You guys need to get out more, you can find hotter pussy at any bar or club.
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>>81944688
>can't see tits behind the number
>assumes they are small

>>81944701
No one's implying there aren't hotter grills out there. But the picture isn't everything.
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>>81944701
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>>81944743

Calm down /reddit9k/. May I suggest just being yourself?
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I call 2090, thanks
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>>81944981
>2090

Too mainstream ťbh
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If they gangbanged these girls this would be the most kino porn site in existence
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>>81943051
>jews win the most nobel prizes
>control everything

hmmm...
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>>81945034
>gangbanging newbies

A surefire way nobody is going to come next time
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>>81945027

She brings her amateur charm to every production, she is a holy light, I love her.

All hail the Lady!
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>>81945079
>amateur charm

Pls be joking
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>>81942297
Porn is for low IQ normalfags, true men of taste only fap to 2D
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>>81945119
>2D

Sorry, mental illness not allowed
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>>81945034
>>81945065
check out legalporno, amazing site
they have 18yo eastern euro qts doing triple anal and piss on them
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>>81944701
>I unironically have fucked girls hotter than all of them

>incorrect use of unironically
>virgin detected
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>>81945251
dunno what it is about alexis crystal but she can suck a mean dick.
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>>81945303
this is a female I would sleep with
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>>81945389
enthusiasm probably

>>81945376
>legalporno

Eh, too professional
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There's something about how high these numbers go that turns me on. In like, a kind of messed up way. The fact that there are so many willing, attractive sluts in just a single country simultaneously fills me with lust and hopeless sadness.

I could probably have given any one of these women a semi-decent life, and we could have learned to love one another in time. But I don't think I could love a literal whore, as much as Hollywood would like to tell me I could.
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>>81945459
Hate to disappoint but there are at best 1800 of those numbers.
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>>81945383
Keep projecting faggot.
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>>81942492
I would agree if we also banned sluttery and re-instituted marriage at an early age for young women. If I had a wife, I wouldn't watch porn. My sex drive isn't enough to spread between a real woman and porn.
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>>81943679
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>>81942492
This but unironically
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Czech hunter is the best gay porn site because the young men look clean and seem authentically ashamed and embarrassed
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>>81942297

Feminism doesn't know what to make of porn. Porn leads to different factions in feminism.

On the one hand, feminism admires power, seeks power. On the other hand, feminism shirks responsibility, wants to avoid responsibility, wants to avoid accountability.

But with power comes responsibility, hence, tension.

Is men objectifying women as sex objects a good thing? Only if she wants it?

Is men objectifying women as sex objects a bad thing?

Feminism likes to focus on what women want. But what women want isn't always what's best for them.
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>Bullet Time

Woah, I didn't know these existed because I'd obviously never pay to use the site, but god damn.
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>>81945809
Hot

Reminds me of some program I downloaded where a stripper danced in the corner of my screen
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>>81945748
You gonna make any more X-Men movies Bryan?
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they want their oppression narrative and their empowerment narrative simultaneously but one collapses the other
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>>81942492
Bring it on.
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>>81942692
Don't act like most women value intelligence more than violence.
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>>81945754
feminism is nothing more than a bad joke nowadays
feminism served its purpose and achieved its objectives two decades ago, from now on its nothing more than a movement not based on logic, therefore prone to contradictions at every single step it takes.
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>>81942984
>czech has the most beautiful women in the world
>he's posting trash that look south american
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>>81942297
stop watching porn
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>>81942984
>Shione Cooper
>Christina Jolie
>Kristi Klenot
>Angel Wicky
>Krystal Swift
>Sophie Mei

Why are Czech porn stars so based
>mfw
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>>81945924
Those beautiful don't usually do hardcore
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>>81942297
The real answer doesn't matter. Women have it so fucking easy in life that they sit around until they're so bored of the vapid thoughts in their skulls that they have to "do something", and that means get pissed off. They still don't "do anything" at all whatsoever, but they're channeling their emotions into something until it gets boring.
That's about it, invent things to get pissed off about, literally non issues, make them a big deal, then get tired of it and find something else to get pissed off about. It's always in the name of freedom, too. Which is fine, people should be free to act how they want, but you DON'T TAKE WOMEN FUCKING SERIOUSLY, THEY'RE A GOD DAMN MEME
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>these women had thousands upon thousands of dicks rammed up their asshole, cunt and mouth
>None of those dicks were mine

Riddle me this, Statisticfags
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>>81945918

Feminism is just a natural extension of every woman's instinctual tendency to shit test men, test the mettle of men, testing for strength/weakness, dominance/submissiveness.

If he bends, he's weak, he'd make a good slave. If he's headstrong, he's powerful, he can command her around.
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>>81946149
You're ugly.
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>>81945973
are all these women in OP's series? or are these from some website?
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>>81946149
fucking is all based on proximity
if you're not in proximity, you can't fuck
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>>81946214
No
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what do the numbers mean?
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>>81946263
Guess
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>>81946263
the amount of cocks they've taken, which equals the amount of disgust any normal, self respecting man who approaches them feels
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>>81946288
it's like a line in a deli
they're numbers instead of stage names
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>>81946301
how do they keep track of it?
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>>81946301
More or less. It's for indexing purposes.
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>>81946342
they check their tachographs
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>>81946342
they pull one of her teeth and count the semen rings
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>>81942492
But I guess rape and marrying children should be ok?
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>>81942492
allahu akbar
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>>81946604

marriage implies consent
without marriage, consent is vague, unknowable, he said/she said
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>>81942492
İnşallah maşallah
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>>81946447
>47
You lucky dog, you. Seems you got a match
>>81946204
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>>81946871
150
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>>81946705

lel
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look sir, whores
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This is the most hilarious premise I have ever seen on television.

Literally bunch of brain dead bimbos who decided to take the easy route of earning money for taking dicks in ass think they victimized.
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>>81942492
yikes. all you fundamental types are wierdin me out
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>>81947458
oh so you're ok with sex but not ok with violence?

if sex didn't exist, there would be no violence.
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>>81947492
Where are all these girls from? Hot Girls Wanted or a porn site? Which porn site?
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>>81947524
Read the thread
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>>81946705

This is not how it works,i mean you either go into the forced marriage or get shunned by your family.
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>>81947557
I've read the thread
>I'm gonna post Czech pornstars
From what site?
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>>81943690
>Claim your czech pornfu
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>>81947584
that's for arranged marriages
but even arranged marriages imply consent
the idea that marriage is for "love" is only centuries old
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>>81945027
>>81945027
Gonna need sauce on that one
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>>81947614
Czech hunters
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>>81947647
Thanks
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>>81946230
>She didn't want the dick
>She still got the dick
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>>81947614
Czechcasting

>>81947646
The number is literally on the picture
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>>81947662
Don't listen to him, it's a trap

>>81947668
>ywn seduce a tall aryan blonde
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Watching the first ep now, really hard to not turn it off, making it seem like these women are on some noble quest in porn
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>>81942492
I don't believe in the Death Penalty but for you we should make an exception. You should be set on fire
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>>81942492
Just look at the countries that ban porn vs the countries that don't

really fires my neutrons
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Have any of you actually read any feminist literature?

I ask because relying on strawmans of your opposition is obviously a bad idea, and is gonna lead to you getting trapped in irrational places.

I really advise reading some foundational texts like Wollstonecraft and then some moderns like hooks. Even if it doesn't convert you, it will let you argue against the correct thing, right?
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>>81942297
Everything about this movie sums up why the majority of the world looks down and laughs at women.
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>>81947832
>u guys just dont understand it
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>>81947832
Shut up cunt.
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>>81947830
>the countries that ban porn

So, not many Jews there?
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>>81947832

There are pro-porn feminists and anti-porn feminists. Which side do you fall on? Is porn "empowering" or is it exploitative?
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>>81947927

I mean, do you actually think

>Feminism is just a natural extension of every woman's instinctual tendency to shit test men, test the mettle of men, testing for strength/weakness, dominance/submissiveness.

is good analysis? It's 2 year old PUA-tier theory based off terribly misunderstood evopsych. If you want to actually persuade people, you have to learn their arguments instead of call them babies.
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>>81947989
we know their argument: women are victims and men are the victimisers. it's not complicated
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>>81947989
>implying feminist literature is going to help any against feminist strawmen you have in an encounter with common vulgar feminist
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>>81947978

There's nothing wrong with sex work per se, but because workers are often naive, young and stupid you get a lot of manipulation and assaults.

Porn doesn't avoid this - most studios radically underpay 18 year olds without explaining how this will make them social pariahs, pressure them to do more than they want, etc. Interestingly, "ethical porn" and "feminist porn" is often worse because people trust them not to manipulate them, and since they have lower revenue they pay much less.

The way around this is using small cammers who control their own labour, and well-known stars who clearly understand and like the industry. Or, of course, 2D - which is unironically better as it has no risk of harming a performer.
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>>81948024

You have to know that you're being stupid, come on. If your opponents look that retarded, then you don't understand them. Notice your rational confusion at people being _impossibly_ stupid. This is a general point, applies to anti-Trump people too.

>>81948060

There are multiple points here - one is to "win arguments" but the other is to improve your own epistemics. Understanding what others think is a virtue in itself.
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>>81948121
notice your failure to refute the point and instead go off on a tangent
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>>81948087
>well-known stars who clearly understand and like the industry

Those well-known stars started out as naive 18 year olds and stuck to it.

>2D

Fake and gay
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>>81947989

It's a great analysis. Feminism is a shit test of of men. Aynd Rand didn't want to fuck a feminist man, she wanted to be fucked by a titan, a conqueror, a strong high status male.

Feminism is merely a gigantic shit test of men. Who is alpha, who is beta? Who turns me on, who turns me off?

You can guarantee that a woman is more turned on by a misogynistic brute, than by her beta "allies" in feminism.

Women continually test men for strength or weakness. If a man agrees with feminism, he's weak. If a man disagrees with feminism, she starts trying to test his strength and emasculate him by calling him a virgin or a loser, which imply he's unpopular with women.

If she finds a man who thinks feminism is bullshit, but is also popular with women, she has to rationalize away the natural attraction of other females to strength. Like Trump winning.

Oh, it must be those scaredy cat white men why Trump won. Even though women outnumber men in America.

Heaven forbid women recognize that Trump won because he always presented himself as the alpha male of the group, among Rebublicans, and vs Hillary.

Women are turned on by leaders, not followers. Women need feminism to find compliant beta followers who will be willing to raise an alpha's child, an alpha who was her first choice but impregnated her and left. As alphas tend to do.
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>>81948087
>most studios radically underpay 18 year olds without explaining how this will make them social pariahs, pressure them to do more than they want, etc.

So they operate exactly like any other business?
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>>81942297
The movie was only about one group of bitches, that were dumb enough to be exploited and that weren't smart enough to grow their own place in the industry to work on their own terms.

I haven't watched the show yet, but my understanding is that it follows people in porn that know what they're doing now.
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>>81942492
Hamdullilah m8
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>>81948087
>There's nothing wrong with sex work per se

Oh, you're so enlightened and open-minded.

>most studios radically underpay 18 year olds

Not unlike the line that women don't like rape because rape is theft. She expects to be paid more for her vagina, her major worth.

>The way around this is using small cammers who control their own labour, and well-known stars who clearly understand and like the industry.

Even if those "stars" were more likely than not sexually abused? And women in the industry like the industry until they don't.
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>> 81947775

I'm supposed to believe this chick had 9571 dicks?

Even if she fucked 5 guys per day every day, it would take her years to reach that number.

Not to mention: Even if she only charged $100 a pop, that's over $950,000.

I'm calling bullshite
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>>81947675

what good is a number if you can't search their website for numbers
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>>81947989

Oh, and where's the fucking picture of feminist Emma Watson saying English men or American men are too nice or polite?

Time and time again, feminism is refuted by biological reality.

Women don't want equality. They are attracted to power, feminism seeks power, but if a woman ends up with more power than men, she will be disgusted by all the weak less powerful men around her.
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>>81948150

>those well-known stars started out as naive 18 year olds and stuck to it.

Fair enough I guess. I don't think that justifies anything as they are a small minority, but it's an interesting point.

>>81948160

Why don't you believe feminists who say that misogynistic men turn them off? I have never met a feminist who is attracted to Trump, or thinks that people who don't believe in gender equality are hot. What evidence makes you subscribe to this theory? Like, my null hypothesis is believing what people say?

What's true is that fawning admirers are less attractive than people who have their own lives, ambitions and persona - that might correlate somewhat with your "alpha" thing, but not really very strongly.

>>81948168

Yeah, but the social risks and emotions around sex work - issues of pair bonding, social exclusion, trauma after manipulation - make it worse. I guess if you're asking if I think sex work is totally like normal work, I don't. We are animals and sex is deeply important to us.

>>81948296

Emma is a feminist, right? So she means men should be confident but believe in gender equality. It's not very hard to be alpha but not think women are inferior lol.
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>>81948267
>their website
>actually paying for porn

You search for torrent or stream. Are you 15 or something?
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>>81948383
>Why don't you believe feminists who say that misogynistic men turn them off?
because men who respect women don't get dates
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>>81948257
>I'm supposed to believe this chick had 9571 dicks?

It's a meme, you dip
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can't be bothered to download this shit

meh
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>>81942492
whatever you say ahmed
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>>81948383
>Why don't you believe feminists who say that misogynistic men turn them off?

What women say and what they want are 2 different things. Actions speak louder than words. Decades of culture cannot undo millions of years of evolution, which makes women more attracted to strong, aloof men who don't give a fuck about women.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/jul/05/what-do-women-want-extract
>How to explain the conflict between what the women claimed and what their genitals said?

>I have never met a feminist who is attracted to Trump, or thinks that people who don't believe in gender equality are hot.

Well, feminists in general tend to be lesser attractive women. The most attractive women don't need to strive for power if they can simply fuck power, or marry into power. Trump has fucked Playboy Playmates. Models. I bet even Melania Trump would describe herself as a "feminist." Are you going to claim she's not a real feminist, for being attracted to a sexually aggressive rich guy? Like all those ladies who bought Fifty Shades of Grey?

>What's true is that fawning admirers are less attractive than people who have their own lives, ambitions and persona - that might correlate somewhat with your "alpha" thing

"Ambition" is code for rising money and status, so yes, alpha. Why do you think a majority of women voted for Trump? Feminism? It's because he has a whole alpha male schtick. And he's overconfident and alphas tend to be confident, certain.

>Emma is a feminist, right? So she means men should be confident but believe in gender equality. It's not very hard to be alpha but not think women are inferior lol.

No, she wants a man to lead, even though she "says" she wants equality. Women don't want equals. Women want leaders.

And if a man is stronger than a woman, taller than woman, more successful than a woman, which is what women want, then she is inferior. What she doesn't want is a smaller, weaker, loser who would be inferior to her.
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>caring about 3d
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>>81948664
>seriously watching 2D

Brain damage pls go
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>>81948695
>liking filthy 3D sluts
normalfag pls go
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>>81947830
>tfw Britain bans porn
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>>81948758
>not liking sluts

Gay pls go
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>>81948758
>not watching both
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>>81948789
>not liking pure 2D girls
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>>81948842
>Uguuu it's SOOOO big, I'm coming even though it's my first time

Even professional porn is better

>>81948853
>pure is what doesn't exist

Cannot fabricate
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>>81948893
Shit taste normalfag
Porn stars have no personality
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>>81948497

This isn't true in my experience. Are you confusing "respecting women" with "not being confident", "not making the first move", or "asking her permission before touching or kissing her"?

Because it's pretty easy to be confident and respectful if you have minimal social skills, and that is what women actually want.

>>81948645

That Guardian extract is not at all related to your point. It is about whether "subjects [who] identified themselves as straight or lesbian" were aroused by "images of sex between men and women, women and women, men and men, and a pair of bonobos". It shows that women's sexuality is more fluid than men's. The other point, whether they reported accurately being aroused by the images, shows that women are less aware of what sexual act they are attracted to - there's nothing about domination or strength, let alone wider relationships, there. Once again, my null hypothesis is self-knowledge.

Second point - I did misspeak a bit about Trump in the moment. He is an attractive man, and a billionaire, so I'd be surprised if he had never slept with a playboy model.

In terms of who voted for him - remember that it was white women, not women overall - and remember that ethnicity is the best predictor of voting intention. This was race-based politics. I think that Emma, as our example, wanting to date muscly, tall, successful men proves only that there is some sexual dimorphism is dating preference. It proves nothing about gender equality in the law, work or politics. Emma is more successful than everyone she dates and in money terms will be the "leader" in any relationship she has.

You've proved nothing about women having secret preferences for being treated badly - just that they like physically pleasing and wealthy people, as a man would. Every one of your claims has been slightly off once I checked it, so I am no longer treating you in good faith.

Sorry for derail OP, stopping now.
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>>81948916
>porn stars have no personality

That's why I watch amateur stuff like pics related
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>>81948842
>>81948758
>>81948695
>>81948664
Watching 2D porn = Brainlet
Watching 3D porn = Brainlet
Watching both 2D and 3D porn separately = Average IQ
Watching 3D men fuck 2D women = Enlightened
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>>81948942
No
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>banning porn fixes the problem
Just like prohibition, right? You morons.

The way you minimalize porn, just like every other modern scourge, is to rebuild communities and the family.

Read the fourth turning.
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>no porn actors are getting exploited, there's no risk of STD
>drawing/animating porn requires way more creativity and talent
>there are hentai and VNs with actually interesting and engaging stories while in 3D it's just used as very basic setup
>therefore, getting to a sex parts feels rewarding, whether it's clicking through text or actual gameplay, while in 3D porn you get what you want right away
>the voice acting is much better most of the time
>2D girls have their unique personality whether it's archetype while 3D ones are just treated as fucktoys
>they also look objectively better and cuter because they have the element of moe, to quote certain Anime, "moe doesn't exist in three dimensional form", some might say they are idealised, but so are the 3D ones which take lots of surgery
>there's also a lot more bizarre fetishes for other people that are much easier to find
>loli is actually legal in some places

2D is objectively superior
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>>81949036
Except it's not fucking real and falling for delusions is dangerous
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>>81949081
Why does it matter? You won't fuck either the 2D girls or porn stars in your life anyway
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>>81942572
>Christian
my man!
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>>81949132
The difference is there is actual fucking going on by two actual human beings
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>>81949222
You say that like it's a positive.
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i must go to the czech republic
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>>81948933

That link is related to my point: that what women say they want and what women really want are two different things. One is cultural, due to cultural conditioning, what they expect a "lady" to say, and one is biological, primal, due to millions of years of evolution.

>While they watched, they also held a keypad on which they rated their own feelings of arousal. So Chivers had physiological and self-reported scores. They hardly matched at all.

Women consistently misreported what actually turned them on.

>It shows that women's sexuality is more fluid than men's.

OK. It also shows that what men report as turning them on is more honest than what women report as turning them on.

>there's nothing about domination or strength

For that, you could actually read the book What Do Women Want? by Daniel Bergner and get to the part of rape fantasies. This next part isn't from the book, but it is a fact:

>a 1984 study by Knafo and Jaffe ranked being overpowered as their study's most common fantasy during intercourse.
>In 1985, Louis H. Janda who is an associate professor of psychology at Old Dominion University said that the sexual fantasy of being raped is the most common sexual fantasy for women.

That is domination. A man so attracted to her that he cannot control himself.

>It proves nothing about gender equality in the law, work or politics.

Women don't want equality. They don't want men to be able to have "financial abortions", they don't want to join men in coalmines, they don't want to equal out the fact that 93% of workplace deaths are men. They see men's success and think "I want that", typical female mating behavior.

>You've proved nothing about women having secret preferences for being treated badly

Should I bring up all the love letters that Ted Bundy and James Holmes got in prison? Or the fact that Fifty Shades of Grey was wildly successful? The fact that nearly no convicted criminals are virgins?
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>>81949252
We're full

>>81949243
It is. It doesn't feed delusions about people's behaviour.
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>>81949036

Well, from a harm reduction standpoint, from a perspective of reducing suffering, 2D is superior. Less people get harmed that way.
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Fuck off weeaboos
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>>81949081
>Except it's not fucking real
neither is porn
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>>81949222
and you can never know if she's simulating enjoyment or experiencing genuine enjoyment
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>>81946243
>not fucking people remotely
>not even fucking long distance
>2017
What are you, some kind of pleb?
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>>81949298
too bad, im coming anyway
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>>81949298
Are you retarted? I find it embarrassing people jerk off to cartoons but you've been obsessively posting images of pornstars for hours, do you think that's healthy?
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>>81949353
You can know with a large degree of certainty

>>81949336
Porn is a recording of something that happened
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>>81949432
And I put retarted instead of retarded gg me.
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Porn Games>Amateur 3D Porn>2D Porn>Professional 3D Porn
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>>81949432
It keeps the thread alive and I like to talk about porn and it triggers the 2D fags
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>>81949438
if a camera is present, you can never know if someone is just playing it up for the camera

a camera changes a situation

it's not about the man and the woman, it's about how she looks on camera
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>>81949510
It's usually pretty obvious which ones pretend and which ones somewhat or actually enjoy it. And hey, if they manage to fool me despite my suspicions, good for them..
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>>81949572
>It's usually pretty obvious which ones pretend and which ones somewhat or actually enjoy it.
Hint: None of them do.
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>>81949595
Hint: Women CAN enjoy getting fucked
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>>81949640
Hint: Not in porn.
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>>81949572
they may even enjoy it, but simply exaggerate it. that's what's fake.

and they usually have to fake liking the guy.

it's an act.
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>>81949640
Oh is that why all pornstars work for free? They get paid in the sex?
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>>81949662
Hint: It's a casting, not a 3 hour shoot

>>81949680
>simply exaggerate it

So? It's not like real sex is any different from that

>>81949697
>people can't enjoy what they do if they are paid

Anyway, the casting is paid pretty poorly so no, they are not doing their best for top bucks
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>Rashida Jones
>not even Egyptian like Rami Malek
WE
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>>81949485
>Porn Games
lel they are shit as both games and fap material
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>watch 1391 recently
>guy lasts only 6 minutes and 30 seconds
is this good or bad? should he have lasted longer?
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>>81949750
>>people can't enjoy what they do if they are paid

Most men would probably do porn for free. Free sex? Okay.

Certainly more men than women would do porn for free.
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>>81949750
>It's a casting, not a 3 hour shoot
Exactly. It's fucking some gross awkward dude in a little filthy room for a tiny amount of money in awkward positions. The most erotic thing known to man.
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>>81942297
porn is only empowering for women if they are beautiful or you have a big dick. Porn isn't for normies. ironically becoming the most normal thing to do if you're a not a normie making you a normie.
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>>81942694
faggot*
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>>81949802
>he's a pleb normie fapper

Once you get out of the "front page of pornhub" normie stage and start to become a seasoned porn watcher with taste you will start to realize that context is one of the biggest turn ons, and there is no better context than something you yourself have a hand in creating and experiencing.
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>>81949912
I agree, but most porn games are terrible, VNs provide better faps
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>>81943100
BUT YOURE A MAN! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!! DIE MAN SCUM!!!
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>Decide to work in a shitty job
>"Wahh I'm sad and I hate my life"
Seriously
Most of these women aren't forced into porn, they're just dumb and don't think about their future
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>>81949819
The dude has a bit of a baby-face but otherwise is pretty well built, acts sympathetic, takes their pictures first and they get interviewed which basically primes them for sex. You haven't seen a single episode I take it.
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>>81949912
>there is no better context than something you yourself have a hand in creating and experiencing.

Oh so like a loving couple offline having sex because they love each other, and not because they're random strangers who met 5 minutes ago and are having sex for money?
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>>81949941
>Most of these women aren't forced into porn

I don't know. Some of these poor European countries...
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>>81946520
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>>81949941
i think they just like the idea of a czetch gansta with some cash bribing them for a quick decent fuck someplace while cheating on the boyfriend because its hot.

which makes them thots
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>2017
>not being gay and loving cock

Women are disgusting. When will you heteros learn?
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>>81950051

Women are disgusting.

Being straight means manning up and dealing with disgusting women. Instead of prancing away in fear like a some kind of fag and ending up somewhere even more disgusting, hairy man asshole.
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>>81950051
Once you have kids of your own
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>>81949926
I disagree. Most VN's narrative are too strict to be good for self inserting, and there is usually too big of a disconnect between the cute and innocent romance and the actual porn. It's just jarring seeing that cute girl you have been following the story of suddenly screaming "YOUR COCK IS GOING IN SO DEEP IN MY ASSHOLE, IT'S FILLING EVERY GAP IN MY STOMACH EUEUEEEEHUE". The writing in general is just really unsexy.

>>81949971
Yes, but it's more just about fulfilling fantasies.
Professional porn is just boring since there is nothing there apart from just making a quick buck. It's the same exact formula, often with the same people, with no surprises. Amateur porn is more real, is ugly, it's messy, it's low quality but it has some heart to it. It's not just a slab of meat going into another slab of meat so they can sell it. Not to mention you often find more unique and interesting stuff in that area since most professional porn makers just do the same thing they have been doing since the 60s.
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>>81946149
Because you didn't go and pay them for it.
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>>81950030
It's a shame all of those are fake because they are pretty hot despite it. If it was real it would be diamond dick all the way.
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>>81950086
>2017
>wanting to raise kids in this sick sick modern world
Why would anyone do such a thing?
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you have 12 (TWELVE) seconds to explain to me why porn is bad.

aaand the counter starts NOW
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>>81950148
To outbreed those who made it this way

Also, I'm spent, who wants to see more Czech girls holding numbers has to tap the source
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>>81950198
is there a good siterip of this?
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>>81950198
>he thinks parents raise their children this day and age

Kek.
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>>81950096
sexy is a very different concept in Japan, for them its about defiling a sweet shy girl hence why they love embarassment, squeeks and being told 'no'. In the west its about the girl begging for it and acting like it's taboo and bad.
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>>81950184

All hardcore porn is sex outside of marriage and sex outside marriage is morally wrong.

Premarital sex and extramarital sex includes: adultery, cheating, hardcore pornography, prostitution, sex trafficking, all rape except marital rape, child sexual abuse, child sex trafficking, single motherhood, bastard children living in poverty, bastard children growing up without proper male role models in their lives and going on to be criminals and a drain on society, etc.

By defending sex outside marriage, you are defending all of that.

As for viewers, porn kills love.
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>some guy unironically defends porn
Wow
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>>81950241
hmmm Now i understand why watching porn is haram, thank's mate
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>>81950220
>siterip

Dude, there is like 1800 of those castings so no, there isn't. Pick a number and torrent it.
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>>81950241
actually it isn't morally wrong, but sex for other purposes than reproduction is wrong whether you are married or not. Thats why the Pope said retarded things like condoms are immoral.
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>>81950293
Well I mean if you never plan on loving anyone and comparing your lover to every twisted thing you've seen in porn and thinking they come up short, and if you never think about how most women who go into porn were sexually abused and will go on to live horrible lives, then I guess porn isn't morally questionable if you simply ignore it the questions.
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>>81950236
It's also about them just writing it in a too descriptive manner.

In a lot of ways the mechanics of sex is pretty disgusting, so usually you want to paint it up with "sexy" words and more poetic language, but in most VN's it's like the girls are screaming out the text from a medical journal describing every change in their body.

Of course it could have a lot to do with the translations and it sounds more subdued in Japanese.
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>>81950354
i never implied or said it's not morally wrong.
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>>81950344

Sexual activity outside marriage is morally wrong. If people didn't engage in it, then all those Catholic priests would have never sexually abused all those kids, and multiple Popes would have never covered it up.
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>>81947832
Feminism and it's dominance of the fourth branch of government (academia) has rendered our society completely irrational. To claim that rationality is possible in a society that heaps praise onto hooks and Butler is ridiculous.
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>>81942297
It's good if the woman involved is still making money.
Money is empowering.

If the female doesn't do porn anymore, spent all her money, and she doesn't earn anything anymore, then it's the all the evil patriarchy's fault.
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>>81950363
>like the girls are screaming out the text from a medical journal describing every change in their body.

i think a lot of people who write and describe sex are really bad at it.

like i laugh every time someone online posts some supposedly "hot" depiction of sex, it's all so laughable.
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>>81950343
i have siterips of GDP/NVG and other long running stuff, never tell me no to huge siterips
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>>81950385
Well I got the sense you felt that anti-porn people are simply overreacting like Muslims for religious reasons, and not based on the fact that porn can have hugely damaging impact on the women that go into it, and the men who watch it.
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>>81950491
most religious reasons are based on real impacts to society.
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>>81950241
Actually. Marriage itself is wrong. There's a reason so many relationships end after around 2 years and that's because our brain stops pumping the chemicals that makes us love and want to stay monogamous. Monogamy and marriage is basically is human trying our hardest to create something from a thing that doesn't exist in our nature.
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>>81950488
I honestly doubt it exists
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>>81950548
Monogamy existed because people used to live much shorter and had to rely on one another to survive which creates a stronger bond. Also, romantic love is way overrated today.
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>>81950488
>NVG

Those early NVG were casting kino

Well the ones that didn't star crackheads or landwhales anyway
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>>81950630
Well. Maybe for women since men usually have nothing to lose from fucking other chicks.
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>>81943367
>not your aunt diane
probably shit.
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>>81950630
>Also, romantic love is way overrated today.
yeah, hyperpromiscuity and one night stands are much better
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>>81950630
>Romantic love is way overrated.

Youve either never been in love, were madly in love in your youth only to get your heart ripped out, or are a literal Jew.

Regardless of which you are, you are also wrong. Legitimate romantic love is one of the best feelings ever. Granted it requires a fuckload of trust in an untrustworthy world, but its high risk/high reward.
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>>81950548
marriage lasting for 2 years is something that is only common in individualistic communities. in collectivist and religious communities marriage is forever. for example in islam, there is no mention of love or the importance of love, in marriage the most important aspect is respect and the importance of empathy and caring. thus encouraging staying together for family and god it, it also encourages marrying the widows who have lost their husbands to war or disease ,even if the said widows are older and bring no reproductive capacity.
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>>81950696
Basically. Marriage is a scam for suckers.
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>>81942649

Fearing degeneracy - a broad concept - so much you'll be fine punishing victimless crimes with violence is degeneracy at it's worst. It's why war and suffering in Africa and middle east is not such a big deal for most people in the west. Because people who don't respect the freedom of others deserve anything bad happening to them.
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>>81950448
Sex isn't generally an appealling spectacle, it's just an amazing experience for the people involved that doesn't come across in descriptions. It's also more about physical sensation than visual, so just watching it doesn't do it much justice.

I suspect many vn and manga producers have never had sex since it qualifies a certain sort of person and in Japan virginity is so high. Its obvious they often have no female perspective on the matter, since a lot of women don't even feel male ejaculation and a dick doesn't feel warm inside them, dicks are usually at a lower temperature than the core temp, and vaginas are always at the core temp.
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>>81950735
>Victimless crimes

Let's not pretend these actually exist. You don't live in a vacuum, and often times society itself is the victim.
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>>81943545
retard. Porn is misogynistic because most men dislike women but find them sexually attractive. How women are fucked in porn is a reflection of that. The porn industry is fairly egalitarian, minus the controlling kikes.
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>>81950691
>>81950690
You are misunderstanding me

Romantic love is now hyped as the ultimate end-all emotion while the usual practise in the past used to be arranged marriages in which people got used to living with one another. Some did better, some worst but generally, they did.
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If you ban porn and make it punishable by stoning you should know that I will buy an illustrated bible and I will crank one out over a picture of the virgin Mary, Christ on a crucifix and then I'll move on to the Quran
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>>81950551
i guess its time to start my own then
>>81950648
the entire series is fucking great
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How come u faggot arent talking about the show in here,just saw ep3 and felt a little sad for that blonde whore with the big tits
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>>81950794
I think it makes female sexuality seem so cruel and hateful. I know I've watched far too much porn to ever really respect women.
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>>81950832
Good luck getting the older ones
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>>81947458

They are the dangerous kind of stupid, you should be.

There's even scientific evidence that less intelligent are more likely to be conservative, fundamentalist etc.

Stupid people can't cope with reality so they resort to conservativism and fundamentalism and are very defensive about it.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797611421206

There are other studies with similar results.

In other words >>81942492 and the ones who agree with him are likely more or less retarded.
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>>81951014
t. research done by liberal scientists
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>>81950548
Marriage promotes monogamy, which is important when a woman can only have 1 child a year (unless its twins or more), and it takes 9 months to gestate, and it takes about 13 years to reach sexual maturity, and even 18 years or more until they can fend for themselves. Marriage makes it so a kid is raised by 2 people, the people most responsible for their survival. Without marriage, the dad can leave at any time, and those kids are at a disadvantage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory

If an organism focuses on quantity of offspring with low parental investment, it's an r-strategist. Like a sea turtle that lays tons of eggs on the beach, and tons of them get eaten by birds on way to the sea. If they make it, they are probably on their own.

If an organism focuses on quality of offspring with high parental investment, like humans, it's a K-strategist. But some humans seem to prefer more an r-strategy, like an African-American male may have many kids by many mothers and abandon them all, and his kids will grow up poorer than a married couple, and will be the demographic most likely to die from homicide.

Monogamy is not natural for women. The longer a woman is in a relationship with a man, the lower her libido. But those chemicals in the beginning of a new relationship are lust, not love. Love is loyalty. Oyxtocin is the bonding hormone. If you don't bond with your kids or your partner, the survival of your kids is at risk, they may lack resources. Bonding evolved because if K-strategists don't bond, their offspring may never survive long enough to reproduce.

Marriage exists to restrict women's natural urges to be hypergamous, have as many kids by as many males as possible. It's costly to provide for kids that aren't yours, so marriage also benefits men. And since kids are so costly in terms of resources, that's why women are attracted to status, power, strength, wealth, all signs that a man has access to tons of resources.
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>>81951014
that doesn't mean they are wrong and progressive left wingers and intellectuals are right though. So your argument is meaningless.
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>>81950696
Islam actually has some decent attitudes and values in it in places. You can see why a lot of Muslims bleat the "Islam is religion of peace" shit if they just do the nice stuff and ignore all the paedo and beheading shit.
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>>81950734

No. Look at Chicago. The shit happening there is because black women are the least likely to be married, black kids are the most likely to grow up in single-parent homes, and black men keep abandoning their children, because if you're not married to the woman you knock up, it's easy to leave.

And any community that starts to imitate that culture, with more bastards, will see an increase in crime and tons of other negative effects because single mothers are the most likely to live in poverty. Because newsflash, providing for kids is costly. Which is why women don't want to fuck "losers."
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>>81950951
>I think it makes female sexuality seem so cruel and hateful.
Because it is. Nature is cruel, and nature control's women's bodies.

>I know I've watched far too much porn to ever really respect women.
Then you've taken so many bluepills you've become redpilled.
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>>81950951
>I know I've watched far too much porn to ever really respect women.

wut? why would you respect anyone just by the virtue of their gender?
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>>81951014

Traditionalism aka conservatism aka fundamentalism evolved for a reason. It means doing what works. You could say they are too stubborn to the old ways of doing things. But you don't survive for 4 billion years by throwing learned experience all away.

Liberals and progressives think they can keep trying new things and that society will keep going on for 10,000 years, but they have no experience to back it up. They keep floating new untested ways of living, and think everything will be fine.

True conservatives were against the Industrial Revolution. That was a progressive thing. But the consequences, which progressives fail to foresse, is that greenhouse gas emissions are at the highest they've been in hundreds of thousands of years, and human civilization may not even last another 500 years, thanks to "progressive" ways of living where people think humanity will be fine.

Basically, the Amish were right. The people who viewed factories as evil were right. The people who were against raping the Earth were right.

Conservative humans persisted for hundreds of thousands of years. Progressive humans may not even last 500 years, speaking of being retarded.
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>>81951075
Well if by "right" you mean higher rates of HPV and therefore cancer, and lower birthrates, then sure, progressives are "right."
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Jesus fuck when will women stop being idiots. How much more evolution is left for them to catch up. Or maybe it's hopeless
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>>81942984
is there like a zip or something of this?
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>>81951014
>only stupid people vote republican

Yet dems always gets 90% of the black vote.. intellectual highly educated niggers. LMAO
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>>81950792

Society is comprised of individuals, as such anything an individual does that has no victim is victimless.

If society as a whole were a victim, it means there were individuals who had become victims.

In that sense, there are a fuckload of things labeled as crimes that literally have no victim that would contribute in any way for an entire society becoming a victim.
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>>81951334
>zip

Of what? The pics? No.
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>>81951275
It's more that I've come to not respect them by virtue of their gender. I don't necessarily respect men, but at least there are some male individuals that I'm capable of respecting.
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>>81951415

Schopenhauer
>It is natural for a feeling of mere indifference to exist between men, but between women it is actual enmity. This is due perhaps to the fact that odium figulinum in the case of men, is limited to their everyday affairs, but with women embraces the whole sex; since they have only one kind of business. Even when they meet in the street, they look at each other like Guelphs and Ghibellines. And it is quite evident when two women first make each other’s acquaintance that they exhibit more constraint and dissimulation than two men placed in similar circumstances. This is why an exchange of compliments between two women is much more ridiculous than between two men. Further, while a man will, as a rule, address others, even those inferior to himself, with a certain feeling of consideration and humanity, it is unbearable to see how proudly and disdainfully a lady of rank will, for the most part, behave towards one who is in a lower rank (not employed in her service) when she speaks to her. This may be because differences of rank are much more precarious with women than with us, and consequently more quickly change their line of conduct and elevate them, or because while a hundred things must be weighed in our case, there is only one to be weighed in theirs, namely, with which man they have found favour; and again, because of the one-sided nature of their vocation they stand in closer relationship to each other than men do; and so it is they try to render prominent the differences of rank.
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>>81951415
fair enough

>>81951451
accurate.
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>>81950220

There are 60GB megapacks of this on Empornium

Get on private trackers, lad
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>>81951307

That very true, but there have been changes in the environment in which humans have had no part in, and it's in those times when the most stubborn conservatives are in deep trouble, and so is any society they may lead. The modern western society is kind of interesting as it actually thriving on constant change and turning it into growth - at least for now as you pointed out.

And since we're now on huge timescales of billions of years, there will be an endgame which is when the sun burns out. That's the kind of problem that cannot be overcome with a conservative mindset.

As much i don't like conservatives, as you said, they have their rightful place in keeping what works working as long as possible.

A fine example of this would be when and if colony ships will one day depart our solar system. Life on those ships is likely going to revolve around some very conservative values by the standards of that day - and likely today's standards - simpy because even small conflicts can grow into something that could endanger literally endanger the entire population. Any moral or social issues some people see here on earth are fucking nothing compared to that.
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>>81951946
they've been closed for like 2 or 3 years. the closest thing to a private porn tracker I use is pornbay
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>>81951063
Liberal scientist 1
>i wonder why conservatives are so stuck up in their ways?
Liberal scientist 2
>not to be disrespectful or anything, but maybe they're simply less intelligent?
Liberal scientist 1
>dude, i think we're onto something... Lets test it!
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>>81952055
>there have been changes in the environment in which humans have had no part in

Oh like global warming increasing the likelihood that permaforst will melt, releasing methane from the Arctic?

>it's in those times when the most stubborn conservatives are in deep trouble

Traditionally, humans have been nomads. At one point, permanent settlements was seen as "progressive", with all the dangers that comes with them.

>And since we're now on huge timescales of billions of years, there will be an endgame which is when the sun burns out.

True. Humanity will go extinct one day. But progressive ways of living are only hastening that, not delaying it.

And colony ships will never depart this solar system. Like signs in the March for Science said, there is no Planet B.
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