/who/ Doctor Who General

>>81867955
First for absolutely GOAT

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqpzv6v5KBM

>>81868002
>fake cloister is shitty thread theme anon

No surprises here

>>81867955
Anybody here nerd enough to own a vinyl BF audio?

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>>81867955
What does everyone think of the new vinyl covers? Chimes has that new one, and Spare Parts has pic related. Better or worse than the original covers, or just different?

>>81867955
Relistening to this one after many years and many later Charley stories… damn, she was a great character in the early years.

I disagree with you

>>81868026
Coming from someone who hasn't heard the actual story, that's fucking beautiful

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>>81868026
I think theyre just different, both great. Whilst I like the original Spare Parts cover, the new one has the cyber police which is great

>>81868014
Perhaps he originally meant for different Time Lords to have different colour regenerations? The idea behind the jesus stance regens was to standardise how regens looked, so writers wouldn't have to try and re-explain them all the time. Which worked - see in Moff's era the many regens (River's, Doctor fakeout, actual Doctors, etc).

Although Moff had the General regen not in that stance, and 11 kinda had a second snap regen.

Headcanon: Rassilon biologically tinkered with Time Lord regeneration to make it an explosive jesus-stance thing as a self-defence mechanism, so dying Time Lords were still useful in battle - explaining why Classic Doctors didn't do them, but NewWho doctors did.

>>81868056
Yeah I prefer the original Chimes cover but the new Spare Parts cover is better IMO

>>81868026
Spare Parts wins for having a picture of a Cyberhorse instead of the generic blue Davison face; both Chimes covers are pretty good.

>>81868025
The only vinyl I have is Pescatons.

Do I get some nerd points back for having some AudioVisuals and BBV on cassette?

>>81868026
The new covers do look better than the originals, especially since most of the early covers were pretty crappy. I mean, Chimes was one of the better ones, but it wasn't that great.

>>81868074
>press ESC to exit full screen
oh just kill me now /who/. I ruined the already terrible joke I was trying to make

>>81868025
No, they're fucking $100 each but that may even be a good deal if you want a physical copy because the CDs are sadly OOP.

>>81868084
>The idea behind the jesus stance regens was to standardise how regens looked, so writers wouldn't have to try and re-explain them all the time
Was that previously a problem?

>>81867952

The Doctor stared at the whip in his hand.

"You want me to do what to Bill?"

"It's realistic. You gonna have to do some rap with Bill," said the man.

"Rap? Are you sure that's what he meant?" said Bill.

"At least, that's what the piece of paper said. I mean, unless I missed a letter, or something," said Nardole.

The Doctor looked at the slave owners, and shrugged.

"Hit the beat, Nardole. Where's a perigoto stick when you need one?"

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Bill first gay companion my ass. not even first lesbian companion

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>>81868111
>especially since most of the early covers were pretty crappy

Come on, you're telling me pic related is crappy!?

>>81868137
I'm not sure I'd go far as to say "problem" but it's certainly something writers would consider. RTD focusing on storytelling efficiency makes sense. Regeneration is hard enough to sell to a new, modern audience, I think RTD made a smart choice.

>>81868074
>Five sacrifices himself for Peri despite only meeting her the previous story (ignoring Briggs Finish gap)
>Ten tells Wilf he's "not remotely important" and makes him cry
Why is Ten such a shit?

>>81868134
You could just burn a CDR from the downloads, print a cover, and voila, physical copy.

>>81868150
fucking stupid, never post again

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>>81868125
I actually had a good laugh at that, I thought it was intentional. It looks like Ten is yelling at it, or he's being attacked by it.

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>>81868150
top kek

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>>81868158
>tfw we will never get another Frobisher BF story

>>81868026
I've only heard 1 audio story and I haven't even finished it but I'm really into vinyl.
Thought I'd pick that up, but lol not with that fucking price tag

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>>81868213
:'(

>>81868213
Did something happen to Jezek?

>>81868134
>tfw have Chimes and a handful of other OOP CDs

NEW COMPANION ANNOUNCED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmFPqQ74HQ

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>tfw Robert Shearman will write another Big Finish story in your lifetime

>>81868246
Hey, what regen are you?

>>81868246
>>81868279

>When you try to shitpost but 4plebs is down and image to text fails you

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>>81868158
There are some good ones, but in general the photoshopping is pretty bad even if the concept is good, and you quickly realise they only have 2-3 photos of each character to reuse over and over.

Like this one. Great concept, but the decolour filter didn't come out right, they did angle the pic right to fit in the locket, and the "snow on the lens" effect is ridiculous-looking.

>>81868181
well in that case, that's what I was going for
Either that or he's screaming it at Wilf
"JUST HIT ESC YOU IDIOT. NEITHER OF US HAS TO DIE"

>>81868242
No, it's just the Frobisher audios are apparently not very popular so they don't make more.

>>81868289
Press Esc to exit full screen

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>>81868306
>Frobisher audios
>Not popular

>>81868159
10 was vain as fuck
He knew he was going to save Wilf, but he didn't have to be happy about it

>>81868279
>tfw Robert Shearman will write another Big Finish story in your lifetime
He's been working on it for ages now. Will it ever come out?

>>81868159
>Ten tells Wilf he's "not remotely important"
>Eleven says "in all my years of travel I've never met a single person who wasn't important"
which one was lying?

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>>81868294
I agree. Sometimes it's painful because the concept is really good, but they just obviously can't execute it very well.

Pic related triggers me because there's no actual cover arts available on the web, just the poster. Does anyone have any actual square-size cover art for The Last Adventure?

>>81868216
>I've only heard 1 audio story and I haven't even finished it but I'm really into vinyl.
You should be able to find a used copy of Pescatons for under £2 if you live in a big city in the UK. Don't know about anywhere else.

>>81868306
>The Holy Terror
>not very popular
It's easily among the most highly acclaimed of their entire library.

>>81868335
What are you even implying here? I'd love more Frobisher audios and The Holy Terror is obviously a classic but he doesn't bring in sales.

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Pic related is a great Tennant story if anybody hasn't tried out his audios but are somewhat interested. Would have LOVED to seen this one on TV.

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>>81868358
They rarely have the individual covers for any boxsets. Kinda annoying desu because I love when they release new covers

Like pic related must have been released recently

>>81868380
I'm saying everyone thinks they're fantastic

>>81868357
Ten just got up himself and screamed at a kindly old man; at least the "it's my honor" at the end sort of halfway saves it.

>>81868358
>Hey, Nick, do we have full-body shots of Constance, Charley, and Flip?
>What for?
>For the box set cover. I've got full-body shots of Jago and Litefoot, and I want them all stranding in a semicircle like the way the 13 Doctors do.
>Nah, don't have one. Why not just use the bust shots and have them floating in space?

>>81868306
>audios
They made one, and no, The Maltese Penguin was a sub bonus, so it doesn't count. The character's hardly had a shake on audio.

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>>81868435
>They rarely have the individual covers for any boxsets. Kinda annoying desu because I love when they release new covers

Same, and my copy of TLA looks dumb in my audio library without a square cover :'(

Good thing with NewWho audios is they have way more promo photos to photoshop from.

>>81868475
Ahgr, don't remind me!

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>>81868297
PFFFFFFFT

>>81868337
You'd be vain too if you looked like David Tennant

>>81868357
Ten didn't mean it, he was just scared and angry. We've all said stupid shit we don't mean when we're angry.

>>81868435
>mixing Ace and Mel
Is there any possibility this turns out well? Doesn't it just mean the Doctor is locked in S24 mode, unable to get dark with the Pease Pottage do-gooder annoyance hanging around?

>>81868435
>I'm saying everyone thinks they're fantastic
Sure. I meant "popular" financially.

https://shearrob.tumblr.com/post/59357063729/this-may-have-been-asked-before-but-would-you-ever
>As for Frobisher - I don’t think the poor penguin sold that well for them for a *very* long time!
That's what I always interpreted this to mean, anyway.

>>81868486
>The character's hardly had a shake on audio
I agree with you. I was just recalling something Shearman said, I assumed that's what the first anon was referring to about Frobisher never coming back.

Finding what Rob said again, it doesn't seem as unambiguous as I remembered.

>>81868498
Why was he so scared and angry. He wasn't going to die, just regenerate.

>>81868365
Dude, thank you so much
It never crossed my mind that a Doctor Who audio would be on the list for Record Store Day
>tfw missed out on Genesis of the Daleks last year
I actually picked up something this year from last years record store day, some stuff doesn't move off the shelves as quickly. Especially in my country. Maybe I'll go looking around.

Anyone want to tell me if Doctor Who and the Pescatons is any good?
I'll still probably pick it up if I see it, but I'm interested in everyones thoughts

>>81868403
I wonder how many people gave up after Technophobia and didn't realise that the other two are a great story and one that isn't amazing but perfectly nails the feel of S4 at its best?

>>81868510
I'm curious as well. I didn't listen to the first Mel and Ace trilogy. I only know about the female black Doctor.

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Who ready for 6.5/10kino?

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>>81868528
Can't forget that a tonne of big Big Finish fans (like me, and probably quite a few others in this thread) pirate quite a lot of the audios. So we have a fanbase calling certain stories kino, but not actually buying them that much. Creates this weird thing where Big Finish hear that the fans consider stories GOAT, but the sales don't always reflect it.

I wonder what the sales are like on the couple of stories they don't offer download for (because of rights reasons).

>>81868541
:( A sad thought

>>81868535
Pescatons is definitely not good, but it's comfy af anyway.

Although that could just the nostalgia talking, since I got it as a little kid back when Tom was still on TV.

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Reminder

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>>81868558
don't you try and spin your way out of this one by putting kino at the end of a bad rating

>>81868552
>the female black Doctor
WHAT

>>81868641
It's a meme, some character who wore Sylv's hat on the cover. There was also a raccoon in a snazzy shirt.

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>>81868403
Best part was when Ten shot himself with all the time reaver guns

Also pic related was the weakest out of the three Tenth Doctor stories, but it's also the only one that actually made me laugh out loud when I listened to it for the first time: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hZaq1oSArG

I BRING DEATH

>>81868575
>Can't forget that a tonne of big Big Finish fans (like me, and probably quite a few others in this thread) pirate quite a lot of the audios.
That's a good point, and is something I've seen Rob directly address before too:
>And one day Big Finish will end - and it won’t be because the BBC took away the licence, or the Doctors decided not to record any more, or because the writers ran out of stories (never that!). It’ll be because the well-meaning enthusiasm of fans who sincerely *love* Big Finish will bankrupt it.

I also remember something about some BF ranges ending because piracy effected sales too much, but maybe somebody else said that.

>>81868486
>They made one, and no, The Maltese Penguin was a sub bonus, so it doesn't count. The character's hardly had a shake on audio.
The whole notion of "side steps" was terrible marketing.

I get what they were going for, trying to appeal to NA/EDA/DWM readers by saying "don't worry, you can just get this one without knowing any other BF".

But the effect was the opposite, everyone thought it meant "don't worry, you can skip this one".

And at least Benny already had her own established series, and Iris had already been in Excelis and they were talking about a full series for her too, but poor Frobisher got hosed.

>>81868690
fucking kek, I'm checking out these stories
Everyone creaming over how great Time Reaver is piqued my interest, but that audio clip sold me

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>>81868616
But it's going to be mediocre second storykino anon, that counts

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>>81868590
Sandifer has a similar take - http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/you-were-expecting-someone-else-6-doctor-who-and-the-pescatons/

>>81868690
That moment was absolute kino. Imagine if it was on TV, and he was writhing around!

>>81868703
Yeah it's an interesting, sad point. I'm hugely culpable of course. That said, I think Briggs Finish is flawed in a tonne of ways, including many Russell Finish wasn't, and they could be running themselves better. Doesn't excuse the negative effects of piracy on them though, just saying they're not a perfect company.

>>81868734
Enjoy anon!

>>81868719
That's a really interesting take, I think you're right.

>>81868762
you can't just put kino at the end of anything you want, it has to actually be something good

>>81868765
When's that story set? smartphones were still a new thing in donna's time

>>81868790
But what if it's good at being mediocre?

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>>81868811
2011

Captcha: London Signal

>>81868765
>I think Briggs Finish is flawed in a tonne of ways
It's basically just one way. So many bases, so much siege...

>>81868541
>Technophobia was my favorite one ;_;

"It's not the sonic that's stopped working...IT'S ME!"

>>81868825
do they cover donna being fascinated at how much things have changed?

>>81868379
Acclaim != sales.

>>81868840
IIRC she does comment on the technology differences yeah.

Fun fact about Technophobia: "Originally, this story was intended to be about sleep deprivation. However, when Big Finish sent the script over to Cardiff, they became aware that a TV episode with a similar plot, Sleep No More, was being produced. For this reason, Matt Fitton changed the plot of this story. (Vortex 87)"

>>81868831
My ranking is Time Reaver>power gap>Technophobia>Death and the Queen

>>81868829
The sheer number of output is killing them and their creativity. Also Matt Fitton needs to fucking go, he's Briggs but worse.

>>81868840
Yep!

>>81868874
Why do you insist on using Cloisters old trip

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>>81868922
To cross my own timestream!

>>81868874
Are they even trying to be creative at this point, though? It just looks like the logical conclusion of having a man whose favorite story is Death to the Daleks in charge. Plenty of focus on recreating how something was on TV, little or no desire for "new" or "different". Their idea of a new direction is having both Ace and Mel.

Thread theme remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJSd2hJLn2g

I don't think they big finish even needs to make new content at all for a good while. They could just have their software developers and marketing team figure out how to repackage what they currently have and probably increase their revenue by orders of magnitude. They could even put their shittier stories on sale for dirt cheap in waves as a "last time offering" sale and then void them from their catalog forever.

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>>81868975
>Are they even trying to be creative at this point, though?

Not generally, I wouldn't say. But it bleeds through here and there. The Torchwood and River Song lines have some excellent, creative stories. The Main Range, 4s line, and 8s line rarely do these days, and that's where I imagine Briggs' influence is strongest.

I don't even think Briggs is a bad writer, he used to write some great stories, and I think he's a fucking excellent voice actor. But he's a bad Big Finish overlord. Gary Russell was better IMO, though hardly perfect.

We're a long way from the days of Scherzo friends.

>>81869017
They have such tremendous mountains of content, it's insane.

>>81868765
>http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/you-were-expecting-someone-else-6-doctor-who-and-the-pescatons/
I hadn't read that.

It's weird that he didn't hear it at 10, but defends it as if he had. And honestly, he defends it a lot harder than I would.

It's also weird that, after all that waffle about morality at the start, he never mentions that the Fourth Doctor is pretty far from being a moral hero in this one. He's an asshole to a desperate alien species, so they're forced to pick a planet at random to migrate to, and when that happens to be Earth, he murders them all.

The worst part of big finish is the fucking cost. Look at this shit, one monthly range release ends up being $30. RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE BEING A PHYSICAL MEDIA FAG

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>>81869082
FUCK forgot file

>>81869082
>physical big finish

Now there's your problem

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>>81869082
>>81869103
Yeah it's not surprising they're pirated so hard.

I just rewatched Curse of Fatal Death. It's actually pretty good Who. Every Doctor in it was actually interesting to watch.

>>81869082
>pre order charge
Wait, they charge you MORE to pre-order it? Isn't that the opposite to normal?

>>81868765
When does Briggs Finish actually begin? I have no concept of when the previous era was or anything.

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>>81869136
It's Moffat-y in some of his best ways. I really love how he cannibalised some story beats and lines into the show proper.

>>81869142
What's it like being blind, anon

>>81869082
but with there app, its super fucking easy to be a download fag. just buy it and dl to your phone.

or buy it off amazon $13 . or book depository $11.

and thats expensive for those two sites.

>>81869142
its a per order charge, physical media only, helps cover their shipping charges.

>>81869159
Well this looks embarrassing

Did Mel ever suck 7's dick? We all know that she didn't blow Colin, but 7 seemed much more in charge.

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>tfw you'll never work for Big Finish

You have five seconds to name the bf audios from the past two years that are actually worth a fuck

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>>81869147
July 2006

>>81869187
I wonder if there are any blind people out there that love doctor who and for them big finish is just exactly like the show. That would be pretty sick.

>>81869147
Late 2006, when Gary Russell quit to go work fulltime for RTD.

By January 2007, the Eighth Doctor had been spun off to his own separate series.

>>81869056
It just baffles me how someone can manage to make Doctor Who dull. That should be really, really difficult, but somehow Briggs and co. have managed to smother any element of weirdness or unpredictability. We need a proper lunatic in charge, like Miles or Dave Stone in their prime - someone who would turn the whole thing on its ear. Same with the books.

>>81869230
What's that in terms of audios? What was the first Briggs Finish doctor who audios?

>>81869223
Individual stories or sets? I can think of a few (not nearly as many as I'd like though)

>>81869223
blame Game
Red Lady
Absent Friends
Two Masters
Waters of Amsterdam
The Prisoner
Aquitaine
River Song Boxsets
Moving Targer
More Than This
One Rule

Shall I continue?

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>>81869282
Hell yes, Aquitaine was fucking incredible.

>>81869194
Seven basically hypnotized her and made her fuck off at the earliest opportunity, that's why her goodbye scene in Dragonfire is so weird. He needed to get on with genociding the Daleks and preparing for Fenric's games, and he knew she'd just get in the way.

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>>81869253
I agree. James Goss and John Dorney (among others) do some good work but the producers are the ones deciding the direction.

>>81869256
EDAs were his thing. Not sure about the specific switchover of his influence in the main range.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Finish_Doctor_Who_audio_stories This list is handy for checking dates

>>81869223
Just in general, the River Song and Torchwood audios really revitalised my love of BF

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>>81869187
don't bully the dyslexic

>>81869294
What's this actually about? I keep hearing it brought up.

Hey anons who have contacted BF before and got responses, what's the deal? Where do you email them and why?

>>81869253
I would give my right testicle to make Stuart Douglas the czar of BBC Books.

>>81869347
Best to go into it without knowing.

>>81869318
Yeah but like I wonder if she ever sucked his cock because its only them together in the tardis. Or if she ever inserted his sonic lance and went nuts outside of the wank room while listening to 7 jack himself off from the future

>>81869362
[email protected]

I chatted with them a year or two ago about their thoughts on setting up a streaming service. They explained pretty well why they hadn't yet (they lack the streaming rights for a lot of audios), although they noted people wrote in to ask them about it. They did end up putting loads of stuff on Spotify though, see here https://www.reddit.com/r/gallifrey/comments/5v8tpj/all_of_big_finish_on_spotify_organized_into/ (that link organises it way better than Spotify itself, hence me linking to Leddit)

>>81869347
GOAT Historical in the industrial revolution

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Sometimes you gotta do things yourself

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>yfw listening to this story?

>>81869253
The problem with the books is that, since the new series started and BBC Enterprises realised there was money to be made, they're explicitly meant to be tie-in merchandise.

You can immediately see the difference by comparing the last batch of EDAs and the first batch of NSAs. Same range editor, most of the same writers. But they're aiming at a different target market, and some of the writers just fail, while others succeed and maybe that would be interesting if you were 12 years old and didn't know much about Doctor Who, and a handful of them manage to somehow sneak in one good book and then never again.

>>81869408
>I chatted with them a year or two ago about their thoughts on setting up a streaming service
I remember that.

So are they happy to just answer any questions? Like, if that's what the email is for than that's great, but I don't want to bother them.

>>81869468
>I remember that.
You can check out of /who/ anytime, but you can never leave

>>81869468
>So are they happy to just answer any questions?
Yup, they seemed happy to talk. There are different emails for like sales and tech support question, enquires seems to just be the general questions one, so it's not like you're distracting them, that is the actual email for questions.

>>81869491
Nice. I think I'm going to email them some time. It's cool having approachable people like this. I had a chat with Shearman about writing once.

>>81869230
>>81869250
Didn't Alan Barnes stay on for a while as the Doctor Who range editor or whatever his title was after Gary left?

>>81869460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0eJBVXje_Q

>>81869546

"Until July 2006, Gary Russell served as producer of the Doctor Who audios. When Russell left the company, Jason Haigh-Ellery and Nicholas Briggs took joint responsibility as Executive Producers. Briggs now bears creative responsibility for Big Finish's Doctor Who range, along with script editor Alan Barnes. In late 2007, David Richardson took over from Sharon Gosling and now holds the title of Producer, organising the schedules across the company's output, as well as having creative responsibility for The Companion Chronicles, Lost Stories, and the spin off Jago & Litefoot. The Managing Director of the company is Jason Haigh-Ellery."

>>81869529
Shearman pops up in blog posts and reviews about his stories sometimes, he's a good bloke. What are you asking BF about anyways, anything juicy?

>>81869579
I'm going to ask them on a date

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Ey faggits, here's a link to a .rar of all my artwork (57 pictures) that I've done for the /who/ threads so far;

https://mega.nz/#!cKpWTJiA

>>81869611
lmao, good luck, maybe go out for some "Fitton mignon"

>>81869619
Ooh thanks dude

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>>81869619
needs a key :(

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Does anyone else think a stark, Brechtian kind of TARDIS interior like the ship from The Man Who Fell To Earth would be GOAT?

>>81869686
That looks like some premium soundproofing

>>81869654
...My apologies, I'm new to mega.

Here you go:

!dTfrTwgb1tqFyOs_b-oJr6ubSjFbMlFFi5xrvucqqOQ

>>81869282
Full List incoming

Romance of Crime & English Way of Death Jan 2015
Equilibrium Feb 2015
Darkness of Glass Feb 2015
A life in the Day March 2015
Requiem for the Rocket men March 2015
Damaged Goods and Well mannered war April 2015
Unwinding World June 2015
Secret History June 2015
End of the Line august 2015
red lady oct 2015
Jago & Litefoot & Strax Nov 2015
The Black Hole Nov 2015
One Rule dec 2016
Signs dec 2016
Prisoner jan 2016
Waters of Amsterdam jan 2016
Aquitaine Feb 2016
More than this Feb 2016
Leigon of the lost Feb 2016
Neverwhen Feb 2016
Peterloo Massacre March 2016
Two Masters June 2016
Moving Target June 2016
Trouble with Drax June 2016
Sontaran ordeal July 2016
Blame Game july 2016
Judoon in Chains July 2016
Absent Friends Sept 2016
A full life July 2016
Dorian Gray Series 5 Oct 2016
Unit Silenced Nov 2016
Transcendence of Ephros Nov 2016
Sontarans Dec 2016
Cold Fusion Dec 2016
Forever Fallen Dec 2016
Eternal battle Feb 2017
Dalek Soul April 2017

>>81869719
My mother is a big Mary Shelley fan, and has heard the 8/Mary audios - I showed her your pic and she was ecstatic, really loved it.

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>>81869765
>Judoon in Chains

It's weird, I fucking hated Fallen Angels, and thought Harvest of the Sycorax was forgettable. But Judoon in Chains was very sweet, and The Sontaran Ordeal was great.

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>tfw hanging out the big finish canteen, eating delicious lunches and joking around with some of your good friends peter, paul, and sophie before heading back into the booth to record some more lines and have some more laughs

>>81869804
Its like the eternal Battle where the monster on the cover isn't the antagonist which allows for some really good development of them.

>>81869454
The NSAs just frustrate me so much. It's not that aiming for a younger audience is a bad thing - in terms of Who's vitality as a series it's actually a lot healthier than aiming your books at forty-something convention goers - but kids and young adults aren't actually looking for formulaic runarounds written by Trevor Baxendale. You can tell a creative story within "young adult novel" limits; Gareth did it wonderfully with Only Human, and most of Terrance Dicks' original books never really strayed from that territory (apart from the bizarre "friendly spot of rape" incident with Warmonger). But, like with the early EDAs before Miles came along and saved the line, they've realized a set number of people will buy a book with "Doctor Who" on the cover regardless of what's actually inside, so we get The Glamour Chronicles. And any intelligent 13-year-old would be insulted by the fucking Glamour Chronicles.

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>>81869843
>ywn work for big finish, hang out with the stars at the delicious lunches, then go write your fanfic for the stars to actually perform

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>ywn stick your pipe up heather's jeans

>>81869859
how is the one with Benny?

I've been wanting to read that one.

I'm the baby! gotta love me!

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>>81869872
>>ywn work for big finish, hang out with the stars at the delicious lunches, then go write your fanfic for the stars to actually perform

>>81869859
I don't think a /who/ post has ever made me feel like I'm reading Beasthouse this much before.

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>>81869947
>ywn live in paul mcgann's basement

>>81869954
The problem is, it's accurate.

>>81869859
Deep Time was good.

>>81869990
Immigrant, how do I actually get Seasons of War, I'm confused, it looks like a sold out charity thing online.

how do we make doctor who great again?

>>81870009
The nature of a show with change fundamentally baked into it is that it will nearly always be great for some people, and terrible for others. S8 and S9 were the Golden Age for me, and the worst series ever for others. It already is "great again" for some, will be "great again" for you one day (most likely), etc.

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>>81869872
DELET

>>81870008
It is, you gotta get it from the mega. (Which, if you want to make money for your hospital, surely the thing to do is flog it indefinitely on Kindle for five-to-ten quid, rather than request donations for a specific window of time and email everyone .mobi files once that window's closed?)

>>81869954
I AM ANGRY. ANGRY ABOUT TRAD.

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>>81869766
I'm flattered!

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>>81870080
Oh cool, I found it in the Mega, might read it on the weekend. Really weird move for a charity anthology, yeah.

so /who/ for series 11, the Doctor Who Budget is severely cut.

Chibnalls response is to recreate the UNIT era, 13 earthbound stories, No Tardis, no time travel.

It looks like it'll be like this for at least 2-3 seasons.

my question to you is, could Doctor Who survive this in this day and age?

>>81869859
The problem isn't so much that it's for 13-year-olds, it's that it's tie-in merch for 13-year-olds. Which means, at least to the people at BBC Enterprises, that it's supposed to be as widely-appealing and inoffensive as possible. Maybe an experienced professional editor could push back on that, but that didn't happen.

Paul Magrs can't write that way, and it's horrifying to watch him try, while Trevor Baxendale can write that way, and that's even worse, and… that's around the time I stopped buying them regularly.

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>ywn hear a War Doc audio set with Hurt, written by Shearman and Cornell, delving into the dark corners of the Doctor's mind and exploring the fringes of the unimaginable cosmic horrors of the Time War

>>81870165
Not unless the writing was incredibly, incredibly, incredibly good. Maybe not even then.

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>>81870075

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>>81870190

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>>81870217
>>81870265
Not sure if script, or you're just manually brightening the images.

Maybe you're playing off the:

>""series 9 wasn't fun"
(pic related)

thing?

>>81870165
That sounds so painful.

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>>81870217
Thank you, anon. Just before posting it I was thinking how it would be nice to have light versions. Can you do this too?

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>>81870290
Not a meme. They've randomly brightened my reaction images in the past. Pic related. Looks much better

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>>81870290

>>81870334
>>81870338
lel, okay, i'm onboard!

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>>81870322

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>>81870377
>.png
what are you playing at, potter?

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>>81870397
it's what my photoshop export thing was set to

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brighten this pls

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>>81870534

>>81870624
Dark no more

Anyone get the S10 books. Are they even worth a read to kill an hour or two

>>81870677
I wanna read them. At least one should be Deep Time tier.

Where was that Briggs quote that was posting here recently from? The one where he was talking about hiring diverse writers?

>>81870748
>BF hiring new writers
>ever
I don't believe it.

>>81870748
Vortex I think, or DWM.

>>81871122
They'd love to hire new writers.

But they don't have the time to mentor someone who doesn't already have experience with audio plays, or who doesn't already have experience with Doctor Who. And where are they going to find anyone with that experience who doesn't already work for Big Finish?

>>81871198
>But they don't have the time

Then they should stop producing a trillion mostly bland stories a year. Slow down. Quality > quantity for once.

But they've kind of screwed themselves over with how they've presented their business models, so fans would get pissed off if output lowered. They've backed themselves into a corner bit. Hard choices need to get made somewhere.

>>81871122
He definitely wasn't saying he was going to hire anybody new lol

>>81871185
Is that readable online anywhere?

President Obama! he's promised to end the recession! Bad times will soon be over, Ginger!

>>81871267
I'd go through the 4chan archive to find the thread with the quote in it, then google the quote.

>>81871232
Yep. If they cut the quantity down to 1/4th as much, they'd need to get 4x as many customers to make the same money.

But that's not going to happen. The quality isn't going to get 4x as good. And, even if it did, people wouldn't find out (or believe it) right away. And, even if the word of mouth were perfect, the potential market probably isn't big enough to expand that much anyway.

So we're basically screwed forever.

>>81871315
Eventually writers are going to start dying, like at some point they're going to be forced to hire new people.

>>81871371
Or they'll just eventually go bankrupt, and hopefully someone will start a new company and buy the license and hire Nick to be the liaison to actors and the BBC but not put him in charge.

>>81871292
Looks like the archive's down at the moment

Someone, please give me a Clara prompt idea, please.

>>81871536
watersports

>tfw broadchurch season 3 isn't on netflix
what did netflix mean by this

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Here you go, Anon that wanted Seven/Ace/Hex.

I'm sorry this took so long :(

>>81871772
draw the foreman cast pls

>>81871772
I wasn't the anon that req'd that, but it looks great!

Req: Claudia and Jack Miles :)!

>>81871754
>he didn't torrent each episode weekly like a good pirate
Quite a good payoff in this one

>>81871784
I'm so tired, Anon. It's 4am and multiple characters take forever.

>>81871827
I will add it to the queue!

>>81871845
go to bed then you duffer

>>81871845
Time to snooze Edge!

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>>81871881
>>81871873

Haha okay, okay. I'll do more in the morning.

It's sweet that you care, /who/

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Stephanie Hyam is also a great artist I think I'm in love.

>>81872259
>a great artist

Capaldi is too :)

good BF discussion today buds

>>81868496
Did anyone like UNIT: Silenced? I think I remember hearing bad things about it

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Ok /who/, I know you have a secret stash of Big Finish audiodramas somewhere, where is it?

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>>81872472
You mean these?

>>81872259
this is fuckin cool

>>81872426
Agreed, very comfy discussion :)

>>81872447
I haven't heard of the New Series UNIT stories since the first set. Intrigued to see how they do the Silents on audio. They haven't done the Angels very well.

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FYI Ross Noble has announced his new job.

Kinda cool, but not Who or James Bond related.

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>>81872489
yeah boi hand it over

>>81872502
how do they convey blinking in audio format?

>>81872726
Mixture of musical cues, sound effects, and characters commenting on it. Sometimes they don't convey it, so it surprises you as well as the characters.

It works better in "The Side of the Angels" than "Fallen Angels" (which is a crap Blink remake essentially), but neither work great.

>>81872581
I knew it wouldn't be Who but I was wondering
Good for him, I think he'll do quite well

Is anyone else enjoying that the Doctor is having fun with being himself this season?

>has all of his screw drivers in one place
>casually goes back in time during the Movellan-Dalek War

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>>81872976
It's the series Capaldi deserves

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>ywn be with Heather and a simple puddle in lesbian harmony

Why live?

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Latest news is that, according to yet another "insider" the next Doctor will be Michaela Coel whos previous acting experience was some netflix series.

http://nerdist.com/doctor-who-next-doctor-michaela-coel/

Personally I'm OK with this, but I think there are more interesting names in the mix with more experience and I suspect that if they do go for a female Doctor they might be more likely to choose a well liked actress who is already a household name to soften the inevitable backlash. Claire Sweeney would be a good choice or maybe Miriam Margoyles or Dawn French.

>>81873286
Well, BBC already said that Doctor won't be a woman, so don't think this is true.

>>81873286
I'm not okay with this.

Would you accept a fat/obese actor/actress playing the Doctor?

>>81873320
allegedly, according to a tabloid that didn't even post the full letter that they claim stated that

>>81873543
no, because they wouldn't be fit enough for all the physical actions playing the doctor requires

>>81873637
Sonic wheelchair?

>>81873666
mobility whooter

>>81873320

Some nimno in the complaints dept said that. Do you really think they had a direct line to the Moff and Chibbers and said

"There's a concerned father who just emailed me, worried his autistic son might be confused about the doctor changing sex, you know EXACTLY like the Master has already done. I don't suppose you could give me some spoilers about the series' most closely guarded secret can you?"

And that not only would the Moff and Chibbers willingly volunteer said information into the public domain but they wouldn't just fall about laughing like Smash Alien Robots over the fact that the child has been watching a show where at least 3 timelords have changed gender already, with openly gay, bisexual and pansexual characters in it and yet the father is concerned his son will be confused now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SAbJjktk7E

>>81873724
>cadbury
>non-chocolate product
w-what

>>81872581
Dream is dead

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The real question should be why they haven't had Brian Blessed cast as Rassilon in the series yet.

>>81872581
He'd make a good igor. I had no idea he acted though

>>81873286
I'd be okay with this too

>>81873543
Of course.

It's also kind of odd that basically all the companions have been the same build. Where are the muscly or fat companions?

>>81868616
And I will keep my promise.

>>81873958
No you won't. The first episode wasn't kino, you already owe as your dick.

>>81873968
The first episode was kino, you're just longing for dick.

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>>81873756

You mean you've never spread smash on top of a dairy milk?

Goes really well with a bit of grated cheese if you use it as a dip for flakes too. Everyone used to do this in the 60s and it was called a 66 it got so popular that the UK's biggest ice cream manufacturer, Mr Whippy, decided to make a futuristic sci-fi version replacing the potato with ice cream and the cheese with strawberry sauce, which he called the 99.

These days the popularity of the 99 has eclipsed the 66 but when I was a kid growing up in the 80s ice cream vans would have 2 nozzles one for ice cream and the other for instant mash.

>>81873798
>Brian Blessed
because he was already in who

>>81873980
No, it's just my standards aren't as low as yours. The Pilot wasn't bad but it wasn't kino.

>>81874004
What's DW kino for you then?

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>>81873968
>the first episode wasn't kino

Damn you are eager for some penis

>>81868002
Fuck off

>>81873984
I genuinely can't tell if you're shitting me or not

>>81873968
Admit it, you just want to see his 6.5 inches cock.

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>>81874018
I know people liked it but damn, are we still really doing that thing where we pretend every new episode is 10/10?

>>81874029
Oh sorry, I forgot you prefer the remix!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJSd2hJLn2g

>>81874045
Every new episode is 10/10 unless it's clearly pure shit

Promise you won't go?

>>81874081
What?

>Speaking with VF.com, the 29 year-old Mackie explains why she missed the Who phenomenon the first time around: “I was part of the Doctor Who-less years when it sort of was off the air just before I was born, and then came back when I was about 16, when I was mostly interested in hanging out in parks and stuff like that.”

>In a rather genius move, executive producer Brian Minchin actually told Mackie not to watch the previous seasons of the show.

How do you guys feel about this?

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promise

>>81874092
Jamie Mathieson hadn't seen the show either. I don't think it should necessarily be the norm, but it's by no means a bad thing.

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>>81874081

>>81874095
woof, now that's a meme and a half

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/knock-knock-official-synopsis-84172.htm

>Please note: a special binaural audio edition of this episode will be available on BBC iPlayer immediately after it is broadcast on TV. This creates a 3D surround sound effect for anyone wearing headphones, placing them at the heart of the action in this nail-biting episode.
Holy shit

>>81874092
>when I was mostly interested in hanging out in parks and stuff like that
pearl confirmed for teenage outdoor drunk sex

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>featuring hayley atwell
what the heck

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>>81873945
>>81873543
>>81873637

Matt Lucas is fat and is doing a good job as a companion so far. When a Doctor isn't that physical, the companions/assistants do all the running while they just sit down. Hartnell was very ill during filming of his last story and John Hurt had cancer (not that that was known to the public at that point), both did fine in the role so a Doctor that wobbled a bit when they run would not have much problems if the scripts account for this.

>>81874136
She's been in about half a dozen audios from memory, including Blood of the Daleks. None of the female doctor articles ever mention this of course because they know nothing about the show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K52iajpe0_0

1:51
>these are rings from the first tardis console
>first

what's her face fan show girl confirmed for being a filthy pleb

Speaking of audio Weeping Angels, does anyone remember or have screencaps of that copypasta from when the audios had been announced and people were wondering how it would work?

Stuff like "ooh doctor look, it's over there now" and "oh my goodness, it's moved"

>>81874188
>None of the female doctor articles ever mention this of course because they know nothing about the show
I've listened to a lot of BF and I knew nothing about this. It's complete chance I even spotted her name now, I wasn't looking for it.

That's really interesting.

>>81874218
>d-doctor, I'm about to blink!

>>81869804
>Classic Doctors, new monsters
>Sontarans

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>>81874219
Yup. Here's all of the stories

Firstly we've got Blood of the Daleks, she's on the cover there

>>81874111
You're awake again already?

>Moffat himself has stressed that we shouldn’t make a fuss over Bill being gay: “We don't want young kids, who may happen to fancy their own gender, we don’t want them to feel as if they are some of kind of special case, as that’s frightening.”

Can kids be gay?

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>>81874271
>Can kids be gay?
Are you being serious?

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>>81874219
>>81874266
And now the Doomwood Curse

Absolutely awful cover

>>81874121
Hype

>>81874261
Yeah that annoyed me too. They're..."Time War Sontarans". Even though the whole idea of the story is that the Sontarans couldn't participate in the Time War.

>>81874271
As much as kids can be straight.

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>>81874219
>>81874287
And finally, The Whispering Forest

Cast

The Doctor-Peter DavisonTegan Jovanka-Janet FieldingNyssa-Sarah SuttonTurlough-Mark StricksonSeksa-Hayley AtwellMertil/Woman -Sue WallaceJestan/Man/Taker -Paul ShelleyHervey/Taker/Demi-Taker -Harry MellingAnulf/Taker -Lennox GreavesAntan/Taker -Aneurin Barnard

>>81874138
>and John Hurt had cancer (not that that was known to the public at that point)
What, he had cancer for 4 years?

>>81874271
how old were you when you first fancied a girl, anon?

>>81874284
>>81874290
I never cared about girls until I was 7-8 and it wasn't in a sexual context until I was at least 12.

>>81874340
Do you believe it's possible for people to be different from you?

Can we just take a minute to appreciate how kino this trailer is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAQPDDX8nhg

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>>81874268
...I haven't slept, I forgot it was garbage day and had to force myself to stay awake and clean so I could get the garbage out on time. (Whoops)

>Obligatory Who!pic to stay on topic.

>>81874340
So what you're saying is you knew your sexuality when you were a young kid? Interesting, anon. Really makes you think

>>81874353
m8 i think needless tripping is annoying as the next guy, but look up through the thread, the fake cloister has been constantly ontopic. theres a whole huge ontopic convo about big finish the likes of which we haven't seen for ages. dont drive out the few trips that actually provide content.

>>81874353
I think one of the janitors posts or lurks in the general regularly. I got a warning for posting Jenna, meanwhile the other threads are spammed with pictures of camwhores and no one cares.

>>81874353
I got a warning for reeposting yesterday too
and I've been warned for posting wikiafrog in the past. That time, an anon proudly declared that their reports were working. It's probably the same thing here, since someone's actually mad enough to report it the mods actually look at it and decide to give a warn/ban

>>81874379
Oh I agree but they're not even a good trip, it's just cloisters old trip, it could be anyone. So why not just drop the shit and just participate anonymously like the rest of us. Since it's an open trip, they practically are anyway

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>>81874411
>wikiafrog is banned but rampant Nilso posting is accepted

>>81874411
>I've been warned for posting wikiafrog
You deserved that though.

>>81874355
Really like the music for it. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J40WhxnkC1I)

Are people generally happy with Murray Gold these days? The Pilot had some super whimsical music. I liked a lot of tracks from series 8 and 9. He can be quite the chameleon; his music for Moff is very fundamentally different than RTD's.

Food for thought:

9s theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVkfqq1aBlQ

10s theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844_IkhcP-g

11s theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqz_JyAUZyg

12s theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfmmRHh6O5o

All very different.

>>81874363
Oh no, that must suck.

>>81874426
It's obviously a "Simmchad".

>>81874464
did you report the reeposting too?

>>81874464
Claiming to have reported someone is a bannable offense.

>>81874340
12 is still a kid, anon
Whatever feelings you had for girls at that age, it's possible for boys to have towards other boys too.
Though typically those gay boys/girls won't understand their feelings as well because it's not considered the 'normal' way to think (which means they might ignore/suppress it to seem more normal) and it's not portrayed anywhere near as much in media

>>81874426
thats what i find endearing and amusing about it though, like if they get super annoying people can just hijack it and say "dur i suck ignore all my points". plus regeneration jokes. idk, ive never been bothered by all the trip stuff, obviously some of them are annoying but so are plenty of regular anons, and desu i think people REEEEing about trips derail the threads more than the actual trips

So should Mackie and Lucas leave together with Capaldi to give Chibnall a clean slate?

>>81874448
I really like the vault, and when the Doctor invites Bill to be his companion at the end

>>81874474
I think I did actually. I got a warning for it to though, which is funny.

>>81874493
What are you going to do about it, report me?

>>81874002
>Brian Blessed
>because he was already in who

Colin Baker and Peter Capaldi (who was in Torchwood as well). Capaldi's appearance being taken from Caecilius in the Fires of Pompeii is actually explicitly referenced in Deep Breath and The Girl Who Died.

Karen Gillan, Eve Myles and Freema Agyeman all previously appeared in Doctor Who as different characters, too.

>>81874517
why do you report posts instead of just hiding them and letting everyone else have their fun?

>>81874517
Just saying mate ;)

>>81874506
they are

>>81874315

Yes, he went into remission but it returned.

Something else with the music, and I've actually e-mailed Big Finish about this - it's annoying they don't (can't) use a lot of Murray Gold's music in the audios.

Think how comfy 10s audios would have felt with this playing during Donna/Doctor bantz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wzuc54ame8

Then this playing during action scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEcij0ARkmU

Or the River Song theme during the River audios, or even just in Doom Coalition when River shows up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZUZzgI_LGU

etc

IIRC they told me they'd look into it but they already had their composers and it wasn't worth the clusterfuck of negotiating incidental music rights and stuff. Not a huge deal, but it would be super neat if they used the show's music (beyond the theme, of course).

>>81874511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkgETGQqczg
beautiful

>>81874531
Because I realised recently that reporting actually works and so it's funny to think of people getting warnings and bans for trying to force their bad memes here.

I can assure you, the rest of us don't find your posts "fun" m8

I think Briggs Finish does some things better than Russell Finish and some things worse. While it does give us an endless trough of mediocre box sets, the Briggs era was when we got Farewell Great Macedon, the Sara Kingdom stories, and Lucie Miller, after all.

>>81870190
Cornell had a chance to write War in that Four Doctors comic, and he sucked. His magic is gone.

>>81871122
The Torchwood audio line hired people I've never heard of like Juno Dawson and Lizzie Hopley. And I have no idea who the writer of that new 4DA Dethras is.

Danny Pink Husbando Anon is a weird trip because he REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs about other trips as if he isnt one. like dude, you literally do everything you accuse other trips of, you derail threads, you centre things on your identity, you tripfag for no reason. hes not like FNA bad in being a mega annoying hypocrite, but its still noticeably weird

ofc im playing into it with this post talking about a trip instead of doctor who but i simply couldnt help myself darling

>>81874569
a poll yesterday proved that over a dozen /who/res find reeposting funny

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What the fuck is this box art

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>>81874588
I think the EDAs are extremely overrated, but I agree that Briggs Finish certainly has some good points that Russell Finish didn't. I never mean to like, idolise Russell Finish, it had plenty of problems, I just personally preferred it (the same way I really liked a lot of RTD DW, but like Moffat DW more).

>Cornell had a chance to write War in that Four Doctors comic, and he sucked. His magic is gone.
Cornnell's magic is gone in general do you mean?

>The Torchwood audio line hired people I've never heard of like Juno Dawson and Lizzie Hopley.
The Torchwood audio line is also one of the best things they have coming out. Hmm, is it possible the two things are...connected!

>>81874554
Capaldi's face when telling Bill to leave is heartbreaking. I wouldn't care about Clara at all if Capaldi didn't play 12's love for her so well

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NEW GENERAL:

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>>81874645

>>81874613
True, but I'm trying to have actual discussion. Now, seems like Cloister Bello has decided not to shitpost anymore and have actual conversation which is nice, nothing against him. My dear, I only blame shitposting trips.

>>81874650
Yeah, his writing isn't what it used to be. Shadow Police, his comics, and even his Twitter don't have that spark he used to have. If anything, he reached his creative peak in the early 90s writing VNAs. And it's generally a bad thing if your best writing came from your mid twenties.

I haven't read Chalk yet, so maybe that's good.

Are you here, copy-anon?

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>>81874588
>Cornell had a chance to write War in that Four Doctors comic, and he sucked. His magic is gone.
What was it like?

>>81874880
Hey, that's my line!

wheres the big fight at the end of every dead thread between copyanon and prickanon

>>81875452
>prickanon
Whoa, what the hell? I've never said anything mean to copyanon. They're just very difficult to talk to.

I think they've stopped responding to me because they think I'm trolling

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Listened to Death Comes To Time recently. I don't see this discussed much.

Dare I say it, higher production values than Big Finish.

I'm not sure about the Ace story line but I really liked Stephen Fry as the Minister of Chance and John Sessions as General Tannis.

In the dark days, it was the first BBC Dr Who production post 1989.

>TANNIS RISING.

>>81876179
uhh this thread is dead mang, post it in the new one

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>>81870624

it's me

bloody brilliant mate