>Past a certain age, a man without a family can be a bad thing

I'm just here for my files, Marty

Around 30

18

40

my age

>>81803641
Friendly reminder this is coming from a guy who couldn't even keep his own family together.

>>81803687
Oh fugg... 34yr NEET

18 desu. I'm almost 19 and getting pretty depressed about still being a kidless virgin. I missed a crucial time in life.

18
It is when a man should start earning his own living and start a family

>>81803641
Does divorce and alimony count as having family or not?

>>81803709
that's the whole point

26

>>81803687
35 here
Haven't fucked in 4 years and probably won't ever again.

I don't know how I should feel.

>>81803765
Yeah. You just have to do the family thing once then you can pretty much fuck off and die because absolutely no one gives a shit about you anymore. Which you've probably figured out for yourself at this point.

>>81803641
What he meant was around 40.

The reality is NEVER get married or have kids. The risk of having your life ruined by outrageous alimony and child support payments to a NEET ex-wife is too great.

A certain one

>>81803857
It's all worth the fulfillment that children bring. There's nothing better in the world.

>>81803641
80. there has to be someone to collect the ashes

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>be 27yo touchless virgin
>already seen as a bad thing by normies

>>81803922
just 3 years until your initiation, don't succumb to the call of the flesh

>This triggers all the old virgins on 4chan

>>81803641
>listening to a hypocrite
getting married is a meme
if you don't feel the urge to start a family, don't force it

>tfw 31
>tfw friends and acquaintances getting married and getting children
>tfw all get fat, tired and miserable
>tfw feel and look better each passing month
>tfw confidence and pusy game constantly improves

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>>81803985
yea its over for me anyway
>not so good looking
>unable to get intimacy
>dating pool is ugly single moms anyway
>the qts are long taken already
>no whores here and I have no money for that

>>81803641
35 max limit.
30 ideal
25 Catholic
20 REALLY Catholic
18 comfy if tough
16 nigger-tier

>>81803786
Is that Homicide: Life on the Street reference?

if you don't have a wife by 25 it's weird
if you don't have a wife by 30 you may as well kill yourself

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>>81803786
>26 next month
>still NEET

>>81804141
>little pussy millennial telling me how life should work

Yeah ok

Fuck I'm 18 and worried all the women will be taken by 25. I have to hurry. This is panic attack inducing. I just want to be 30 and have all this crap behind me. This and having kids is all I worry about nonstop.

Never having kids. Even owning a dog is too stressful for me. I like to be free with no responsibilities or anything to worry about.

>>81803878
Getting sucked off by two fresh 18yo's every week is better.

>>81804184
I'm over 25 myself but I can see the writing on the wall

>50% of marriages end in divorce
>Men massively disadvantaged in courts
>Witness my brother getting run over by his ex-wife making it so he can't work, later causing him to get arrested for not paying child support

Gee it's a real wonder why I refuse to have kids and/or get married.

>>81804209
>all women will be taken by 25
how would that work, if you get a fresh supply of 18-20s each year?

>>81804262
Why would an 18 year old want to date a 25 year old?

>>81803641
35

>>81804284

Are you kidding? 18-21 year old girls dating 25+ guys is extremely common.

>>81803641
I lived with my girlfriend from 22-29, never again.

>>81804309
Fuck I need to get out more. I feel like a mess.

>>81804321
Was meant for
>>81804308

>>81804209
I hope you're not the type of guy who worries about baggage, because girl baggage is starting at 14 years nowadays

>>81804284
Do you ever even leave the house?

>>81803818
Horny, probably.

>>81803641
>having kids

Lmao fucking retards

>>81804284
Because you're the old guy.
I dated a 17 when I was 24, shit was so cash.

I can't do that now, it's too creepy for today's pussy society.

>>81803878
>men are meant to be slaves
>if you don't break your back for a woman you aren't a REAL man

top cuck

>>81804374
Where does one find such young girls?

>>81804308
Actually true that. Most wedded couples i know have a five or so year difference between them.

>>81804354
I would prefer it if my wife hasn't fucked anyone.
>>81804359
Yes but not enough.
>>81804394
I don't think that. I just think kids are the most fulfilling thing in life.

>>81803641
>"Past a certain age, a man without a family can be a bad thing"

t. a fake character that cheated on his wife, got cheated on by his wife, and ended up estranged from his children

>>81804209
calm down kid, the world isn't going to run out of women and someone as stupid as you should never have kids.

>>81803818

You're fine. This culture is seriously broken when it comes to sex and people vastly overstate its importance. Never trust anyone that acts like sex is something that must be done.

>>81804421
>I would prefer it if my wife hasn't fucked anyone.
Oh shit nigger.

Well good luck.

>>81804427
It's all I want in life. I wish I was exaggerating.
>>81804446
Are you kidding or is the completely serious?

>>81804436
>everyone has sex
>everyone but me

Feels bad man

>>81804459
>Are you kidding or is the completely serious?
Well do you live in China, the Maghreb or Indonesia?... Otherwise you're fucked.

>>81804421
>I would prefer it if my wife hasn't fucked anyone.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

honest answer: 35

>>81804412
I went back to college.
I was the second oldest there.

It felt like a 90s going back to school movie.

>>81804459
>It's all I want in life. I wish I was exaggerating.
these are stupid things to concern yourself with, you're not ready for a family, have you even left home yet?

>>81804507
>tfw too dumb for college

fuck, guess its over

>>81804031
This guy gets it. Only start a family if you genuinely want to, because having children is a massive burden.

>>81804521
I'm in high school.

>>81804142
>engineer in a poor country
>making as much monthly as unemployed frogs in the USA/UK

Feels fucking disgusting, man.

>>81804058

I mean.....most men aren't actually limited by their looks. Ugly af men get laid all the time.

>>81804530

Just do an art course lol, that's what I did when i just wanted to piss about for a few years instead of getting a job

Jesus died at 33, without a wife.
Checkmate, atheists.

>>81803641
It's the age when you're comfortable with your career and have either achieved or given up on your goals. Need to do something with yourself now and having a family is a thing you do at that stage. People used to hit that stage in late 20s, now it's mostly late 30s.

>>81804569
But I want a hot gf

>>81804577
I'm already too old for this I think.
Also have to work 40 hours a fuckig week to survive.

>>81804557
then shut the fuck up you little retard, you're surrounded by girls you can try and fuck. stop crying about having kids when you are a kid.

>>81804635
I need someone like you to yell at me constantly to pull me out of my panic attacks.

>>81804586
He still got laid though

>>81804692
Figuratively.

>>81804675
surely your father thinks your concerns are stupid

>>81804459
Look at it this way, if the chick hasn't fucked anyone by 20 then she's either ugly as all fuck or has a whole different kind of baggage that I'm certain you will not like.

There is also a rare breed of chicks that were butt ugly in their teens but then got cute or stopped eating so fucking much. The trick here? Either they're all taken, or they'd want zero to do with you because who are you anyway just a sperg without a car.

If you really want to be a fag about it you can start dating a fat chick and then make her lose weight (probably together with you anyway lol). In a year's worth you will have your qt pure virgin with an actual personality instead of bimbo trash that have easy lives due to being hot, and you will be happy. Either that or she realizes how much she missed out on by being ugly and dumps your ass to go partying.

t. guy who took an ugly girl, got her hot, then cheated on me

>>81804074
>>81804294
>>81804497

tfw 35 and just now starting to think seriously about the game of life.

I dont regret avoiding it this long, my mom and my older sis both had kids too young, so i knew from a young age that kids==sacrifice.

captcha is lobster???

>>81804284
are you serious? I'm 30 and get hit on by 18s very often

>>81804728
Haven't seen him in 11 years. He was a pedophile and my mother divorced him. Then my mother became an alcoholic and we had to go live with my grandparents. It's probably why I'm so fucked up.

>>81803641
What movie is this from?

>>81804770
What's your income source?

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>Past a certain age, a man without hair can be a bad thing

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>300 000 united states dollars PER DAY

Thats an expensive prostitute.

>>81803857
Thanks Mr. Goldberg.

>>81804771
spend more time with your grandfather, it sounds like you need a male role model

>>81804775
kill yourself

27 feels like such a threshhold, not necessarily in regards to starting a family, but it seems like an age when you are "finally" out of your youth. I turn 27 soon and the number is extremely daunting, I wish I still had my 20s still ahead of me.

>>81804742
>t. guy who took an ugly girl, got her hot, then cheated on me
Ammmmm I hearing "story time"?

>>81804626
>too old for anything

you're not too old for anything if your body is still fully functional
this meme needs to die

>>81804836
You're probably right.

>>81804795
I'm not rich by any means, if that's what you're asking.

>>81804989
Are you exceptionally attractive?

>>81803857
> Be Marty
> Be a state trooper
> Somehow land a smoking hot doctor for a wife
> Refuse to keep dick in pants
> Only after you get caught twice, one a previous underage sex worker, does she fuck your best friend in order to get you to leave

Yeah man, it was his wife that ruined his life and not his complete lack of impulse control.

>>81803734
Who gives a shit. Focus on having fun. I didn't get laid till I was 21 or 22

Being in a relationship is lame too. I prefer being alone to do hobbies and do whatever I want like going on road trips and shit

>>81804775
Problem Child 2

>>81804894
Don't worry, you will always feel like the next number is when you will "finally" be out of your youth, but it never comes.

>>81804989
I mean are you a bartender or something similar to give you a lot of opportunities to get hit on?

Or a job with benefits like say, altering grades, if you know what I mean.

>Past a certain age, a man posting on /tv/ can be a bad thing
What age is that?

>>81804998
above average, but not exceptional

>>81805030
14.

I don't know how people here can tolerate the retardation otherwise.

>>81805000
The difference is that I'm emotionally weak. I know I sound like a miserable bastard; I'm just being honest. I have no reason to lie to you on 4chan.

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>>81804961
yes I am man, to some young girl I'm a nobody and they're not attracted to me anyway, the ones my age settled a long time ago and turned fat.
I don't have much money, don't have good looks, I'm not smart. how am I supposed to get a qt gf with nothing?

and as a virgin its way waaay worse than you might imagine because even 12yo kids went further than I ever did.
kissless, touchlesss, hugless virgin, gimme a fucking break man.

>>81805000
how do you do roadtrips when ur alone?

>>81805082
option one: you take friends
option two: you go alone

you people lack imagination so bad it's no wonder you never get laid

>>81803641
45. i had a single male professor in university. he had a professor brother too. they lived with their mum. most autistic motherfuckers i had seen.

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>>81803734
i'm 21

>>81805070
you have a shitty mindset, and that's your only problem
are you even in your 40s? probably not, so it's just whining

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>>81805151
i'm 27

>>81805189
>tfw you would probably get too see one pretty soon if you wore that shirt in public

>>81805082
There's no no single policy in road trips

>>81805070
i had the look, i had the smart. i wasnt fat even athletic. today i am just a sack of shit. depression and internet ruined my life

>>81805208
Yeah, a hairy feminist one flashed at you as a jest.

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>tfw 5 years from becoming a wizard

>>81805226
That or some turbo slut teasing you. But it still counts, doesn't it?

>>81805236
35?

>>81805053
Sure I get that but I was there too. I was honestly debating about how the best way to go about blowing my brains out in my early 20s cause of loneliness.

Like I said get some hobbies do different things. Bitches will come if you are working out going to school or working. Whatever just work on yourself and they'll come man. I don't think you should sweat it. Once I stopped giving a shit about even just kissing a girl was when I actually did and start getting gfs

>>81805242
Counts for what? Life isn't a video game, we aren't hunting achievements.
If I absolutely wanted to see a vagina at all cost, I'd hire a prostitute.

>>81805281
>I'd hire a prostitute

problem is not having sex. it is that no woman willing to be together you.

>>81804953
It's as generic as it comes. We were both fat as fuck when we shacked up, we got fit together, then two years later I find out she's been fucking a guy from her work. She didn't realize I was tight with her roommate (which I didn't show for exactly this reason), who went into explicit detail to let me know even about the movie they watched, fucking Mr. Nobody. I refuse to watch that movie even today.

Six years later when I think on it back then I realize it's not even the cheating that's giving me the most feels of regret, it's that there was another chick who had a huge crush on me and she was hot as fuck but I was like 'naw dude I'm in a relationship'.

>>81805281
well first you say shit like
>kissless
>hugless
>virgin
>never seen a vagina

and then you're like
>life isn't a video game, we aren't hunting achievements

seems to me like you are desu

>>81805263
Thanks man. I really appreciate it. I'll try to take your advice and not stress about all this stuff. I get freaked out when I come on here and see people who are 35-40 who have never hugged a woman. I really just need to get off this site while still I can. But then there's people like you here who are really helpful and experienced, so I don't know.

>>81805313
No, there's actually a mental thing directly connected to the activity of sex. You realy just need to put your peepee into a poopoo, that's all

>>81805011
It doesn't really bother me, but the girls with whom I used to attend high school are growing old; they are accruing wrinkles around their eyes, some are having children, and are all grown up. They were fifteen last time I saw them, with an unwritten chapter of youth ahead of them, and now it has been finished. They were the epitome of youth to me, and it's difficult to see that change.

>>81805394
protip: it's not the site
these people are just free to admit that in here
and most are memeing anyway

>>81805332
if you were like me you'd probably be like
>i have more interesting shit to do fuck it
>i have more interesting shit to do fuck it
>i have more interesting shit to do fuck it
>i have more interesting shit to do fuck it
>i have more interesting shit to do fuck it
>feels kinda lonely sometimes fuck
>>i have more interesting shit to do fuck it

>>81805326
Aw that sucks. At least you get to live with yourself with the knowledge of being the better man, err right?

>>81805407
then whats the difference of it and masturbation, or oculust rift and fleshlight porn thingy

>>81805263
>just be yourself man
Me being myself puts me in a room in front of a PC drawing all day. How does that give me pussy? Don't project your situation on others.

>>81805451
>I have more interesting things to do
>I complain about not doing things that don't interest me

make up your mind

>>81805332
I didn't write those though. I am perfectly fine not dating and not having a woman near me. Been like that for almost a decade.

>>81805480
I don't know what the difference is, it's a hormonal thing I guess. For me, it's like I was different person after losing virginity. I don't know why, I just changed.

>>81805485
>can draw
>can't get pusi

your talent assuming you have it is wasted on you

>>81805485
>be yourself
>become furry
>post furry art on DeviantArt
>roll in chicks interested in the mysterious man behind the neon-colored dog dick
Sounds like a good plan

>>81805490
I'm a completely different guy go treat your 'tism sperg

>>81805490
Protip: 4chan is more than 2 people.
This "Anonymous" guy you converse with, he is more than one person.

>>81805513
Funny thing, but literally nothing changed about me when I did it.
t. not the guy you're responding to

>>81805522
I can get it if I start working on getting pussy. But just me doing my thing gets me no closer to pussy at all.

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>>81805524

>>81805479
Nope

>>81805524
somebody post that hedgehog thing. you know, the guy who post same ugly camacter design but with different color for pages. there were almost 1000 furry hedgehog pic. and weird thing is, there were no nudy even they gave a sexy pose

>>81805559
Yeah, I hear that a lot. For me it's like I went through second puberty after it, like my body changed into a more musculine one.

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>get an asian girlfriend
>she really likes me
>drop her and stop messaging her

and I don't even know why, I just simply forgot her

Is photography a good way to meet cute girls?

>>81804209
>all this crap behind me

haha one born every minute

captcha was just a street sign saying dead end

Why dont you all follow russes advice and end yourselves please maybe once you are sll desd i csn post ma waifu

>>81805559
Yeah, same here. I lost my virginity three years ago and only fucked two girls since

>>81805576
>don't fuck the gorgeous qt to honor that you're in a relationship, even though you have your doubts about your girlfriend
Don't delude yourself brah, you're pretty cool in my books!

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>>81803641
>I shouldn't even fucking be here, Marty
>...Talk to me Rust

Literally the first time Marty asks Rust to open up and he does.

>>81804953
>Ammmmm I hearing "story time"?
say it without being a fucking faggot next time.

>>81804284
>Why would an 18 year old want to date a 25 year old?
its ok and logical. but marrying with someone who is 7 years older than you is not. especially if you are a boy

>>81805559
Pretty much what happened for me. Litterally the only thing to have changed is that I'm less anxious for those retarded "never have I ever" games.

>>81803641

yeah, how did having a family work out for you, Marty?

>>81805602
Kodyboy555?

it was a joke because his own family was so fucked up

I can't believe this triggered so many NEETs who are now probably going to say they were only pretending

>>81805679
Hmmmm, ammmmm I hearing someone being rude with me?

>>81805695
Wait why is it not okay to marry them?
>>81805616
What do you mean?

>>81805708
they weren't hedgehod? i must remembering that wrong

>>81805479
>Aw that sucks. At least you get to live with yourself with the knowledge of being the better man, err right?
please kill yourself

>>81804961
I dunno man. I'm only 33 and while I might be perfectly capable of anything, my mind just isn't willing. I just want to build myself a neet hut in the woods and forget that other people even exist.

>>81805699
That was the point though

He is implying that he started a family not because he wanted to, but because of social norms and how unmarried men at 40 are viewed as weirdos and something went wrong with their lives

>>81805576
im not that anon, but your posts suggests you are better then her

six years is a long time, iv been beating myself up for leaving my last gf 4 months ago, and i know im milking it

I hope you are happy

>>81805731
she will cheat on you

>>81805737
Idk if we're thinking of the same thing. This guy has drawn pretty much the same thing thousands of times for years. It's the supreme example of autism on the internet.

>>81805745
>dood respect for yourself doesn't exist lmao, and being the morally upright person doesn't have anything to do with it xD
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>81805759
That seems like a weird conclusion. Why would an 18 year old cheat on a 25 year old by default?

>>81805737
>>81805766

http://kodyboy555.deviantart.com/art/Tantor-the-Elephant-showing-his-butt-629787357

>>81804999
you know that the show is fiction, right?

>>81805797
>comment therefore attention from female
Point proven

Become the furry, drawfag

>>81805606
Asians are low hanging fruit get a real woman my man

>>81805790
25 year old woman would cheat on 18 year old boy. look my english is not that good to explain this properly. women always want dominant (otoriterist) men, and it's really hard to a 18 years old boy's do that.

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>>81805797
What is this shit! There's 5,865 similarly drawn animals. This is advanced tism.

>>81805747
so you're not "too old" for anything, you just don't want anything
why the fuck do you even care then? peer pressure getting into your head too much? fuck normies man, they aren't happy and just want everyone else to be just unhappy as they are.

I'm 28 and feel like I'm past that certain age.

>>81805846
Oh. Good point.

>>81805772
why do you type like such a queer anon?
the moral high ground isn't much consolation when you missed out on a better, hotter girl because you were loyal to a fat slut.

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>>81805836
tried slav woman before. one from belarus and 3 from ukraine.
1 was a golddigger
others were batshit insane

>>81805790
because that is the default.

She will cheat on you and she might even regret it later but it'll be too late then. A couple of years after you kick her to the kerb she will message you crying telling you that you were the best thing that ever happened to you but by then you just won't care anymore.

>>81805870
fuck off reddit, you suck so many cocks

>>81805797
this has to be a fucking troll

>>81805870
also one of my relative married a 36 yers old woman (she was really sexy tho) and he was 24. they divorced after 4 years

>>81805911
???

>>81805790
humans are naturally promiscuous

>>81805911
why is it reddit?

>>81805956
because it sucks cock

>>81805854
I think you're missing the point. Don't worry. You will understand when you get there.

>>81805930
a hardcore troll. a patient troll. there are more then five thousand same pic with different color

>>81805875
>why do you type like such a queer anon?
Eh, I haven't got a clue, but it seemed like the right thing to do to write in a jovial and happy way ('queer' too I guess) given anon's precidament. Why pile up sadness on top of sadness.

Anyways, maybe I give too much meaning to this, but are you implying that "some good fuck sessions with some cute girl > feeling like you have the moral high ground for the coming 65 years"?

>>81805970
go back to 9gag kid.

>>81806005
No if you compare them they are all different drawings.

>>81806040
we found KODYBOY555 guys.

yes yes, all of them are different. of course. of course

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>>81806061
Whatever

>>81805981
Do enlighten me. What exactly is the problem there? You want to be a neet hermit, but at the same time don't want it?

>no leech of a wife
>no parasitic children
>all your money to yourself
>do whatever you want whenever you want
And you say that's a bad life?

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>>81806007
>Eh
>Anyways
I hope you and your filthy fucking cunt of a mother die from cancer. I don't think you've ever even fucked a girl your 90's born queer.

>>81803818
Try out Okcupid or something if you're American or Canadian. If you don't look outright terrible and live in a somewhat populated area, you should have no problem finding someone to fug.

Also this >>81804436
Sex is nowhere near as important as some normies make it out to be.

>>81804466
More like everyone tells you they're having sex. I a lot of people forget just how much guys lie when it comes to shit like this.

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>could get a woman
>rather settle for porn

I can't be the only one

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>>81805236
>201 days 7 hours 50 mins
I won't make it.

>>81804421
>I would prefer it if my wife hasn't fucked anyone.

Better join a cult, a church or start prowling playgrounds then.

>>81806160
>someone to fug.
normies
>just how much guys lie when it comes to shit like this.
stop posting faggot

>>81806189
I'm gonna start going to church actually. Hopefully it all works out.

>>81806214
Don't be heaps desperate

>>81806214
>I'm gonna
stop talking like a retard

>>81806128
>don't use words
Ok.

>>81806243
What do you mean?

If you don't have a significant other by 30, then something is mentally wrong with you. Doesn't even have to be a wife.

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>>81806243
>heaps desperate

>>81806119
people who bowed to the society's norm against their will will get jealous and call you a loser
otherwise it's fine

>>81805696

You realise you can just lie in those right?

>>81806214
>start going to church
>only because have a virgin fetish

god people are pathetic

>>81806263
listen reddit, maybe you'd have more luck if you spoke correctly, "going to". now you try it.

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>>81806280
I just wouldn't want to settle for anything less than 10/10.
ugly woman can fuck off, they will never get my virginity.
do I sound mentally ill to you?

>>81806166
>3dpd

Yes, you are

>>81806357
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

Are you having a stroke?

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>>81806343
>church
>virgin
>fetish
>god

>>81806333
Sure, but you sound a lot more genuine once the fear of your friends finding out isn't creeping on you like before.

>>81803818
Who gives a shit honestly. Do what you love.

>>81806397
>gonna do
>going to do

>>81806343
I'm actually a Reformed Protestant but I've been away from church for a few years because I moved to a different area. I'm not just going to find a gf.

>>81806452
You"re the first one to have said the words "gonna do" in this thread... I'm sorry buddy but I haven't got a clue of what you're trying to say.

>>81806357
That was me. You're replying to another guy.

>>81806363
the fact that you're a grown man and still a virgin, while also not wanting to lose your virginity is a warning sign, yes. and the fact that you don't want to settle for anything less than a 10/10 is probably because you're addicted to porn and have a distorted view of women.

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>35
>in a relationship for 7 years now
>we don't live together
>we both don't want kids
>spending our money on vacations and other nice things
>feels good

>>81806498

>>81806214
I'm gonna start going to church actually.

>>81806559
You just quoted two different people. The guy on top isn't me, you retard.

>>81806559
That wasn't me though...? Like he said: >>81806530

>>81806588
I know I was just pointing out "gonna" was used in this thread

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>>81806532
yea but real woman suck ass and are annoying as fuck. don't need that shit.

>>81805559
This. Eating pizza felt more exciting than losing my virginity.

>>81806547
You really have no desire to pass on your genetic material? Tbh, I don't really want to deal with kids myself, but I'm really tempted to at least donate some sperm or something so I can pass down my genes.

Sounds like a pretty swell life otherwise anon.

>>81806590
and yet you should both kill yourselves anyway.

>>81806655
do you really think you have anything worth passing on anon?

>>81806658
>i don't know how to quote someone
>therefore you two are the retards :P
You disgust me.

>>81806680
Fuck no, but I still have the desire to do so.

>>81806655
>I'm really tempted to at least donate some sperm
They only accept Chads for sperm donation.

>>81806703
>>81806708
I quoted the wrong person but that doesn't change the fact you're both faggots who should die.

>>81804421
>I would prefer it if my wife hasn't fucked anyone.
Time to move to saudi arabia and marry a bunch of 9 year olds, then. And even those probably get molested by their dads.

>>81803641
Ever since I broke up with my ex ive just been hooking up with girls from Tinder. Its just the easiest way to be. I go to the movies alone, eat out alone go shopping alone ect; im too much of a broken person to stay in relationships

I feel like guys in their 40s-50s with a teenager kid who lives with his mom are doing the right thing. I think this sounds incredibly sexist/dumb etc but while it's ideal if a father can raise the kid but maybe for some guys, it's not the best if the kid sees his every move, because people tend to tumble in their lives. Alcoholism, fights among spouses etc. A kid, especially a boy don't need to see his father in a weak state or when he's crying. When you can visit your kid weekly, you can always be at your best. Also a man, who's steadily built his fortune, and financially is on the top in this late 40's should be banging an aged 50 y/o pussy only. Yeah sexist, but if women can whore themselves in their best years (20-30) and commit AFTER, why should a man stick to a expired pussy when he's at the top. He can fuck yourger pussy if he wants.

>b-but muh family unity

When the kids are teenagers or more, it's doesn't really matter anyways, because the kids will just drain the parents and don't care about them. Also, if the guy can pull that he won't lose everything in the process of divorce, he's a winner in my book.

>>81806781
I hate how 4chan exaggerates.

>>81806655
i have to admit, i sometimes think about it (passing on my genes). but i don't think that's enough reason to have have kids. just for the sake of it.

>>81806831
Not by much.

>>81806343
It's not even a fetish, I just don't want the girl I'm supposed to spend the rest of my life with having a history of blowing guys in school bathrooms

>>81803687
Woman detected. Men are in their prime throughout their 30s, whereas 30 is the start of women's decline. The real answer is 40.

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I'd rather not ruin my life and the kid's life.

>>81806926
But women don't get anything if the cause for the divorce is her infidelity

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>>81806919
>religiously educated girls
>not blowing guys in school bathrooms
i've got bad news for you, anon

>>81807175
For you kind gentlesir
>>81807143

>>81806919
>religiously educated girls
>not the girls that had the most reason to get back at daddy, and to slut it up with basically every male boy they liked
Hahaha.

>>81803641
In our time I would day 40s. Anyone single past mid 30s is a sign they have commitment issues, work too much or have no idea what they want. We have a lot more options in terms of lovers and jobs and I think that overwhelms a lot of people. They don't want to tie themselves to someone or something they don't really like and end up picking nothing.

>>81806968
Why would you lie on the internet? Do you even understand the advent of no-fault divorce?

>>81806547
You're amazing I love you, more couples need to be like you, otherwise we can't get rid of whites.

>>81805616
>solving the capcha before writing the post
kys

>>81805210
>tfw the car won't start unless somebody is seated in the passenger seat so you try to reach across and start the car but it knows there's only one person and still won't start so you have to lie to your mom about having friends you're going to pick up so she'll sit in the car long enough to start it but she knows you're lying and that you'll call in twenty minutes at the gas station when you can't start the car again but she's your mom and she loves you even through her existential tears caused by your failed existence

>>81807175
not even meming

>>81807228
this guy gets it

>>81807347
i don't even care if the world goes to shit after i die. that's one of the advantages of not having kids.

>>81803734
This is the stupidest virgin shit ever. No, there isn't some glorious age that you can just miss and after that life is shit forever. You can have just as fun wheb you are 22 or 30 as you can as an 18 year old. Only a guy who hasn't experienced life can think there is some magical era somewhere that is sooo much better than anything else. It's hilarious every time you pseudo-intellectuals convince yourself the stupidest shit is the most logical answer, especially when you have no experience on the subject.

I was stupid as fuck when i was 18, people don't miss being that stupid.

>>81803641
42

>>81807482
>t. normie who lost virginity early
Even if you have sex when you're older it'll never fix the past and you can never become normal.

>>81803684

This is a quality post

>>81807531
>implying there is anything to "fix"
>implying we don't all fuck up when we're younger
>implying it matters what age you lose your V card at

>>81807482
Original anon here. What age did you first have sex?

>>81804421
>I would prefer it if my wife hasn't fucked anyone
Fuck off Mohamed

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>>81803641
35

>>81807784
>implying anyone should ever give a fuck about "people"

>>81807598
Fix my autism

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>>81807810
Heh, weak-minded sheeple, m I rite

>>81807833
It has nothing to do with your "past".
Assuming you really are autistic, and not just socially inept, because of no experience, in which case something as simple getting out there will fix you pretty fast.

>>81807851
Idk who he is, but making life choices based on "because people will think X" is dumb and one of the reasons there are so many unhappy people in the world.

>>81806926
Getting married is dumb, not having kids is dumb

>>81807642
>>81807531
I was 19. Was a hopeless virgin that struggled at not getting any chance with girls through all high school. I was super drunk when i lost it and that was the point where the red pills started dropping. I noticed that i was just as loser after getting lucky once, and sex wasn't anything magical like /r9k/ had fantazised. So after i while i started getting into pick up artist shit to get more girls and the red pills kept rolling. I noticed that women are just as human and fragile as men, that indeed sex wasn't anything magical but just another little reward like a good pizza or video game. That you get bored of it too in time.

That's what i meant with that there isn't some magical thing that's sooo much better than the rest. There is no some euphorical ultimate state of being where you are forever happy. This is it boys. This is as good as it gets.

>>81807929
Getting married is what normal people do, anon. No amount of mental gymnastics will convince anyone that failing to attract a mate is a personal preference instead of a red flag

>>81807971
You have to understand, what you're saying is like a fantastically rich person saying 'Hey, money doesn't make you happy!'
No shit, but it sure would fucking well be nice to have some

>>81808051
define "normal" and we can start having this conversation

>>81808079
Then go get it what you want. But let me tell you, at the end of it, you will still be you.

>>81806968
>In UK divorce law the courts care not a jot that one of the parties to the marriage has committed adultery if they are asked to decide upon any matter relating either to the financial aspects or to the children. The fact of adultery is irrelevant to either of these legal decisions and the days of the courts "punishing" someone for adultery in questions involving child custody or capital division or whatever are long since over. One must therefore be particularly aware of the psychological rather than strictly legal advantages of this ground for divorce.

In Bongland, you can still be fucked over financially for wanting a divorce because she cheated on you. Marriage: not even once.

I just realised recently that I want a good job and life more than I want sex.

Maybe that's the enlightenment.

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>>81808197
>I want to be a wageslave and I'm willing to work hard at becoming one
>I'm enlightened!

>>81808098
The commonly accepted definition works just fine:

conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected

Being unmarried as a middle aged adult will make most people wonder if there's a reason you haven't been able to settle down yet, because people all over the world aspire to eventually marry (and the majority do get married)

>>81803641
I'll let you know when I get there.
;_;

>>81808322
OK then. Why is not being normal bothering anyone. I can understand it bothers you when you indeed aspire to settle down and marry, but fail. Why would anyone care if they don't feel like the family life is for them, though? Because their neighbors think they are weird? Big fucking deal.

>>81808245
What you call wage slaves are normal men and women living their lives, and what you call "wage slaves" created all the greatest empires on earth. Which is better, being able to support your own life, or doing nothing, thinking people who work are just wage slaves, and at the back of your head, always knowing you are a parasite?

>>81808589
If you actually participated in society you would know that you are not the only guy in the planet with a brain, and start caring. Besides getting married is how societies are build, and you should work for the improvement of the society who gave to you everything you know.

>>81808741
I participate and I know I'm not the only one. I still don't see how it has anything to do with feeling good about myself.

>getting married is how societies are build, and you should work for the improvement of the society
Procreation is not the only way you can improve the society.

>>81808644
negro that just sounds like some shit your slave drivers fed you in order to make you feel better about your chains.

right now all "wage slaves" are doing is widening the gap between the rich and the poor, undermining their own children's ability to live better lives than they had. Something they have no real choice in doing, because the system is set up to ensure everyone takes part in orchestrating their own demise.

>>81808644
>what you call "wage slaves" created all the greatest empires on earth

>he believes his 9-5 has any impact on the world around him

Oh I am laffin

>>81808589
It's not about anyone being bothered by it, but people who remain unmarried into middle age should expect to be judged for it - to your point, usually by the normal people who care themselves about getting married.

Keep in mind married people tend to be more successful. Marriage itself is traditionally a sign of financial success. Being judged by friends, family, boss/coworkers, etc. for being single is inarguably a bad thing (see >>81807784 for possible judgements related to being married)

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>>81809186
>laziness / emotional retardation / mental illness masquerading as nihilism
>pretending to be happy with your poor life choices online, anonymously, to buttress a ridiculous argument

LMAOing @ your """""""""""life""""""""""" familiar
Name 3 movies than support your claim

>>81807278
This. We're in an age of so many choices compared to our predecessors.

>>81808122
Wrong. None of us are the same person even from one moment to the next. Ship of Theseus, brainlet

>>81809336
>Keep in mind married people tend to be more successful. Marriage itself is traditionally a sign of financial success.
Not anymore it isn't. Marriage and divorce are literally a pastime for women now. A game.

>>81808644
>and what you call "wage slaves" created all the greatest empires on earth
And get none of the credit, kek! Nobody gives two shits about the medieval peasant, they care about the rulers and scholars. Similarly nobody in the future will give two shits about the lives of you unambitious common serfs

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>>81809717
You just unwittingly supported my argument - if women are marrying and divorcing increasingly for money, then a married man is someone seen as financially stable enough to have become a gold-digging target

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>>81804141
Its okay for a male, for females you might as well kys

>>81809837
>tfw 29 and haven't had sex in 6 years
Bby I'll luv u long time as long as you're not obese

>>81809825
I wouldn't consider that something to be proud of, though.

>>81809903
Not that anon, but if I said that your bank is a desired target by robbers because you have a lot of gold in it, that would be something to be proud of. Being robbed, though, isn't.

>>81807278
>They don't want to tie themselves to someone or something they don't really like and end up picking nothing.
I wouldn't say this is always the case, but you're on to something here.

>>81809903
Beats the shame of being unmarried into middle age and childless (or having kids out of wedlock) desu

>>81810086
Only if you feel that shame
And you only feel it if you're mentally weak and insecure

>>81809521
You better start off with supporting YOUR claim that "wage slaves" created empires.

>>81810086
>current year
>feeling shame

Look at what website you are on right now.

>>81809803
C'mon, how many rulers or schorals do you know from middle ages? Let's be realistic here, we don't even remember those. What's the reason for trying to be remembered when in the end nobody will remember you? Just improve society and live your life, there is very very little chance someone will remember you in 500 years. Even if we don't remember people from middle ages, we still feel their impact. That impact is what you should be aiming for. Being ambitious so that you will be remembered is shit-tier reason for being motivated.

>>81804209
Look to the Philippines my friend.

>>81803641
25 if you're white
16 if you're Puerto Rican

>>81808051
>Getting married is what normal people do, anon.
Not anymore mate. Marriage rates are way way way down. 70% of men in their 20-30 years are unmarried. Single mothers are a new hip thing and 60% divorce rate is a thing.

>>81810335
>you only feel sadness if you're mentally weak and insecure from not being married or having children

C'mon now. It's in our biology to be social and contribute to society. It isn't a matter having some willpower, you are literally going against your nature. Any mental gymnastic in the world won't make you be able to stand that.

I already said it in this thread earlier, women are just as human and fragile as men, not some super natural beings designed to fuck men over. It would not make any sense from the point of evolution. Men and women are designed to work together. Women know this, and their biological clock is ticking. Just stop with these illogical mental gymnastics, okay?

>>81810488
Fucking kek we literally have entire fields of history dedicated to learning about the rulers from hundreds of years ago. We can even trace entire dynasties because these people were important and worth remembering. You sound like a sad little nobody who is filled with the impotent rage that knowing nobody cares about his average pleb life brings

>all these people who equate "family" with "marriage"

... uh

>>81810488
>how many rulers or scholars do you know from middle ages?

those that mattered? quite many
and none of the rulers or scholars ever were wageslaves by today's standards

face it: you are a piece of shit, your work doesn't matter, your impact is nonexistent
it's all mental gymnastics to make yourself feel better about the life you didn't choose

>>81810546
That shit simple cannot be sustained. Traditionalism is coming back, because it is the only economically viable option and people are running out of money. So yeah, getting married is still what intelligent people with actual life experience are doing.

>>81810669
Hahaha, nah mate. Collapse is coming back. Traditionalism may or may not follow after the shitstorm. Only then will marriage be viable.

>>81810668
well to be fair, the current wage slave's work does matter in the sense they're making the world a worse place for their children. But they don't feel they have a choice in this, as, strangely, options that don't boil down to wage slavery aren't really taught.

>>81810620
I never said anything about sadness. But if you feel shame because you don't fully fit into someone else's idea of how you're supposed to live you are pretty pathetic.

>>81810669
Negro, if anything from the past is coming back, its the model where kids need to get jobs at 8-12 in order to support the family.

>>81810546
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

>Seventy percent of American males between the ages of 20 and 34 are not married, and many live in a state of “perpetual adolescence” with ominous consequences for the nation’s future, says Janice Shaw Crouse, author of “Marriage Matters.”

>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come. “It’s very, very depressing,” Crouse told CNSNews.com. “They’re not understanding how important it is for the culture, for society, for the strength of the nation to have strong families.”

Cry more bitches.

>>81810668
>>81810641
Oh yeah? Well name some.

Who cares if some historian somewhere knows. Your ancestors names are also in some church book. 99.999% of the population won't give a shit about some middle-age monk. They will still feel their impact. This is also the case with you and your life work. Or what, you suddenly stop being a piece of shit when some historian somewhere once read your name from a book?

C'mon, stop being so pessimistic, of course you will never get anywhere with that view of life. And stop with the narrow mindness, your definition of being worthless or not being worthless is so hilarious.

>>81804421
Get a load of this guy. No wonder people find you weird.

>>81810849
the only impact the modern serf is having is increasing the gap between the rich and the poor and making the world worse for their children

>>81810734
I'd feel shame if i was a parasite. You will too, it's in your nature.

>>81804626
40 hours a week is nothing, are you kidding me?

>>81804675
Spoken like a true ladies man.

>>81810849
>Well name some
Galileo, Copernicus, Newton, Descartes

>being worthless or not being worthless is so hilarious
funny, coming from a guy who was just going out of his way to convince others they should be ashamed if they don't feel like having families

>>81810910
>if you don't get married, you're a parasite

K

>>81810758
>>81810707
You sound like the people who praised during the middle ages that the end of the world is coming. You aren't important enough to witness a collapse, people will change their ways before it. You're not that much smarter than the average population.

>>81807971
Thanks for answering my question so thoroughly. I'll think about all this.

>>81810849
>name some
How many do you want? I could list you hundreds, even thousands.

Matilda of Tuscany, Bohemond of Sicily, Alexius I Komnenos, Baibars of Egypt, King Philippe Auguste of France, Frederick "Barbarossa", William the Conquerer...

>>81811023
It's just a collapse anon. Happened a few times already. Not even that long ago. I'm not talking about the unforeseen magical apocalypse here.

>>81803684
stay down

>>81811023
people don't have sufficient power to change their ways, as citizens united ended your ability to effect any change in 2010.

>>81810952
Congratulations, none of these people lived in the middle ages. Nice way of showing your level of knowledge. Of course someone will be remembered, but your chance of belonging to that is so small you simple shouldn't care about it. Think of how many scholars there must have been in the world during 1500-1800, and you can just name these. Just focus on improving the society. I'd also like to add none of those men did what they did because they wanted to be remembered, because that is a stupid way to value yourself.

>>81810903
Explain how.

>>81810910
The rich seem perfectly fine with being parasites though

>>81811192
>the government is some all powerful being and not there only because the masses allow it to be there!!!

Sure thing buddy, ever heard of something called Trump?

>>81811208
I need to explain how being employed by a corporate entity, who will pay you less than your work is worth (or as little as they legally can) to create products they'll sell for more than their value (up to what the market can bear), thus increasing the corporation's value at the cost of their employees directly contributes to the ever widening gap between actual wages and cost of living, thus making the world a worse place for your children?

>>81811208
>"noone remembers about people who lived hundreds of years ago"
>gets some names
>"only middle ages matter!"

kys

>>81811280
You could've at least googled citizens united, before posting and looking really fucking stupid, yo.

Citizens united was a PAC that argued lobbying caps were a infringement of free speech. In 2010, the supreme court of the united states agreed, and lifted all lobbying caps.

Corporations are legally considered "citizens."

Thus, in 2010, democracy ended. As all policy decisions are now a bidding war between corporate entities. The presidency is utterly meaningless.

>>81811280
MAGA BRO TRUMP IS GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD

>>81811308
dude, doing marketing for that online sexshop improves the society, fuck off

>>81811421
tenga improved my society if you catch my drift

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>>81805847
Thiccc

>>81805522
That's why I said work out cunt

>>81811421
hah! implying your job isn't already being outsourced to indians

>>81811362
You call me stupid and then say shit like presidency is utterly meaningless. If it is utterly meaningless then why did the elite try with everything they had to stop trump from becoming a president?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCF5LbMr_Qs

>>81811505
>he still believes Trump is a man of the people
There are factions of oligarchs, anon, but none of them have your best interests in mind. The prevailing globalist faction tried their damnedest to prevent Trump coming into power. Now the neocon ultracapitalist oligarchs of which Trump is a part are prevailing. Same shit.

>>81804421
hope you like church faggot