I challenge you to find me a single badly composed frame from

>>81732856
I challenge you to find me a single good dialogue in this movie

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>>81732885
I agree that Charlize Theron's lines were universally awful, but...

>>81732885
I LIVE
I DIE
I LIVE AGAIN

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>>81732923

>>81732885
>Expository dialogue is better than great visual storytelling

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>>81732945

>>81732885
>dialogue
What kind of a pleb prioritises dialogue in FILM?

>>81732885
>dialogue is about 1/20th of the movie
It was just expository to the opera of carnage

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>>81732856
>>81732885

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How can Nolanfags even compete?

>>81732885
Everything Immortan Joe said?

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>>81732885
3/10

>>81733039
That sequence looked really awful compared to the rest of the film

>>81732885

Dialogue is by far the least important aspect of this movie. It could have been a silent movie and still be great.
That is how good the movie is at telling a story visually

>>81733098
lol maybe if you watched this on a compressed fucking YIFY torrent, the colours are fucking ruined that way

this is amazing in HD and obviously in kinema

>VLC

I just remember the big milkies

>>81732958
>I can't write
The excuse

>>81733105
this desu, if Furiosa was a mute and communicated with elementary sign/writing that only the educated waifus could understand, it'd be 10x better

>>81732928
that's one liner catch-phrase, not a dialogue
>>81732958
>>81732979
>>81733105
>this movie doesn't need good dialogue because it's shallow popcorn action flick
I'd agree if you write it like this

>>81733131
I have only ever seen it in the cinema

>>81733155
fuck off kojima

>>81732969
those cheeky slaves

>>81733153
>he actually thinks characters telling each other what is going on rather than showing it on screen is better writing

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>81732885

Here you go faggot.

Not only is this one of the best action sequences of all time it uses very little dialogue but you can understand what is going on and get a grasp of characters personality all within 3 minutes

Literally a perfect scene

https://youtu.be/HClM8YvNljo

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>>81733191

splendid is best girl

>>81732885
Capable: What are you doing here?
Nux: [Sobbing] He saw it. He saw it all. My own bloodbag driving the rig that killed her.
[Nux begins banging his head]
Capable: Stop doing that! Shh. Stop.
Nux: Three times the gates were opened to me.
Capable: What gates?
Nux: I was awaited in Valhalla. They were calling my name. I should be walking with the Immortan or feasting with the heroes of our time.
Capable: I'd say it was your manifest destiny not to.
Nux: I thought that I was spec for something great. I got to... drive a pursuit vehicle, for a while even Larry and Barry stopped chewing my windpipe.
Capable: Who are Larry and Barry?
Nux: My mates.
[Points at his neck tumors]
Nux: Larry and Barry. If they don't get me then the night fevers would.

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>>81733167
18gb mkv cannot do it justice, but there's no way this looked "bad" on film.

>contrarians pretending this action flick is worth thinking about because it's not capeshit

>>81732885
anything Nux or Immortan said

>>81733325
>95% of the screen looks like coffee

You need to see it in motion. bad cgi, didn't mesh with the rest of the film where it's generally good or unnoticeable

>>81733212
Why did you type all that up? Why didn't you just "show" me some pictures to communicate?

Pure visual language is chimp tier. Humans evolved intelligence through the use of written and spoken language. Fuck off back to Africa pls you monkey.

>>81733261
>le epic drums
>literally a car chase in the sand

this is what today's kids view as "best".
top kek

>>81733415
>5% of the screen looks like coffee
>You need to see it in motion
absolutely any high-definition still shot of a whirlwind/dirt will "look like shit"

the CGI is rarely noticeable even in stills, but you do have an underlying point here.

>>81733432
B-But he zoomed out and did fewer cuts. It was epic bro.

The only time I thought it looked bad was during >>81732923
>>81732945
this scene when Joe opens the floodgates because of how obviously they were green-screened into the side of the mountain. It was really jarring to me in theaters.
Still a great movie.

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>>81733418
I think your autistic

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>contrarians will actually say this is unremarkable

remarkable...

>>81733418
because this isn't a film you fucking retard, what you want to compare books to a completely different medium? If you'd rather have a character say "I'm scared" than have the character show they're afraid through their actions you're a fucking retard who should stick with your marvel quip fests and also consider suicide.

>>81733432

>Not understanding a single thing about film making
>Just stating the action and music itself as some sort of criticism

Literally stick to Russo Brothers Capeshit kiddo

>>81733491
I think you're retarded and reddit. Hurr durr "show not tell." How about you stop regurgitating other people's ideas and think for yourself for once.

>film is a VISUAL medium so dialogue is bad
>he posts words of dialogue on a fucking IMAGE board
Kys

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>>81733491
>your

>>81733518
this is a fucking renaissance painting

>>81733418
>Pure visual language is chimp tier

>Rembrandt is a chimp

found the retarded redditor

>>81733614
Yes. Without words written about art, art is meaningless. I challenge you to describe why he's great using no words.

>>81733418
holy shit you are so fucking cringeworthy

its clear you're a huge pseud who thinks hes more intelligent than he is. please do us all a favor and never come back here you 16 year old faggot

>>81733670
>the movies Baraka and Samsara are less meaningful than a Tarantino film because they have no dialogue

jesus christ you are actually retarded, I thought you were just pretending

>>81733491
what the fuck is going on in this scene?
should i watch this gay movie?

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>>81733724
Why so much b8

>>81732856
Every frame. That orange filter looks disgusting.

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>>81733758
sure, m8. kino looked like dogshit before colour grading. black and white and technicolor eras exempted, of course

>>81733687
>name drops rembrandt
>I'm the pseud
Not really. I came up with that when you responded. Just because you can't philosophize on the spot, you don't have to project on other people. Also, not an argument. You got BTFO hard. Go back to r/eddit where you belong.

>>81733418
Ever heard of Kabuki? Even Japanese often dont understand its medieval-japanese dialogue, its almost entirely about visual expression.

You think it isnt art?

>>81733418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyophYBP_w4

>he thinks this is good writing

>>81732856
Why are all modern movies nausea-inducingly orange and blue?

I remember when this came out and /tv/ hated it because it had a woman as a main character.

>>81733806
>philosophize
>anything that isn't chock-full of inane babbling is meaningless

you're a fucking clown, stay in school faggot.

>>81733913

Studio literally made Miller film it in bright technicolor, it was supposed to be black and white.

>>81733906
>>81733936
Still not a single argument.
>be "show not tell" fags
>type a bunch of words to prove to me that VISUALS > words
>I point out the irony
>REEEERREEEERREEEEEE

>>81733983
I haven't seen the black and chrome version but I can't imagine a high speed action film set in the desert in black and white could look good, sounds like something a student filmmaker would do to make it more "kino"

>>81734056
>Comparing a still image to a moving one
>Comparing a text-based medium to a visual one
>He thinks this is an actual argument

How is that additional chromosome treating you?

>>81733806
>You Fool! It was over before it began! Now return to le reddit!
>it's an anon declares they won the argument like it's a fucking yugioh duel episode

>>81732885
>t. crazy smeg who eats schlanger

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>>81734197

this movie copletely shits on original mad max movies. it's literally an empty, shallow, action-packed car chase with bad music.

if it wasn't Mad Max i'd actually hate it less.

>>81734086

"[Black-and-white] focuses you on the content and the story, and it really concentrates your attention on what's in the frame. All too often, color can be a distraction -- it's easier to make color look good, but harder to make color service the story. Black-and-white imagery is much more about the balance between the light and shade in the frame, and I think it can help convey story points a lot better with fewer distractions.

Lighting is not only about lighting; it's also about not lighting, and cutting light off of objects as much as shining light on them. Those kinds of considerations are as important in colour photography as they are in black-and-white, but the sheer beauty of a well-composed and well-lit black-and-white frame is hard to beat, because it's difficult to produce that type of focus and simplicity when you're shooting in color. It's vitally important to be able to separate shapes and surfaces through the use of light and shade, and to focus the audience's attention on what you want them to see. Color is seductive, but it's harder to get past the surface gloss to create a truly simple and relevant image. I almost wish every film were in black-and-white"

tl;dr: Miller was trying to make the most visually pure action film ever made, if you understand anything about the editing and fraiming in Mad Max you can understand why he wanted B&W

>>81734291
>this movie copletely shits on original mad max movies

The original Mad Max was a reationary fantasy about "crazies", weak government, no justice, and muh thin blue line.

Road Warrior was far-fetched stupidity.

Thunderdome was... Thunderdome.

This movie is concise, not overly didactic (despite the bleating of manchildren), and unpretentious. It's the superior flick.

>>81734129
If film is purely a visual medium then why the fuck does it have sound? I pity you because you seem to not have good intelligence. Fury Road was a crappily written movie because it knows it is and is relying on the EBIN visuals to fool plebs like you into thinking it's great. You probabaly think instagram filters make great art too.
>text based medium
Are you too retarded to know you're on an IMAGE board? GTFO back to >>>/r/eddit friend.

>>81734129
>still image to a moving one
Nigga you too dumb to see the many webms posted in this very thread? How are you still breathing you so stupid.

>>81734197
I don't speak Australian. Can someone translate this for me?

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>>81734742

Literally stop, you're making a fool of yourself and everyone can tell you're trying to troll

>>81734817
>no argument so he's a troll
t. Fury Road Shill OP

>>81734742
>I stated anywhere that film is purely visual
>he thinks that film stories should be told through expository dialogue
>he literally just wants to watch people talk to each other
>He thinks written words and pictures are comparable to films

you should really just slit your wrists.

>>81734799
>regards, absurd fool whom does consume roadkill

>>81734784
>the fact that moving images exist means it's ok to compare them with still ones
please stop writing, and breathing.

I love the film but that shot of the guitar flying towards the camera at the end is atrocious and unnecessary.

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>mfw all these flamers

I'm being totally honest here, no bait, I think this movie wasn't gay enough
It didn't have enough leather and neon hair and flamboyant aussies to really make me feel like it was mad max
I liked it but there was a distinct lack of freaks
the banker lad was just fat and joe was just fucked up, the only real mutants were the little dwarf cunt and maybe those shits on stilts
I liked it but it wasn't as out there as I would have liked

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>>81734945
as was this... ;_____;7

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>>81734977
Only good criticism itt desu

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>>81732885
>people are actually replying to this post with "dialog doesn't matter!!!"

I should have guessed that SJW types would be this brainlet.

>>81734977
Fair enough. There wasn't a leather daddy police chief or a twink on a leash.

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>>81735075

>>81733792
That looks a hundred times better than the OP.

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>>81735100
He has such a punchable face. I wonder how he got hired?

>>81733792
Looks like outside. I don't see anything wrong with that.

>>81734945

I thought that part was terrible too.... until I realized that all the stuff flying at the screen was in fact not CG but practical effects.

>>81735204
I like how you can tell it's practical, but I'm not sure if it's the actual truck made to look like a miniature or an actual miniature
I want to say the latter but I can't be sure
ps I fucking love all of the vehicles they made goddamn it's amazing

>>81735135
But Nicholas hoult a cute.

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>>81735261

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>>81735101
b8
>>81735135
seriously stop, please. you're better than that.
>>81735173
it's fine, of course, but there's nothing wrong with colour grading at all.
>>81734977
It's subtly implied that all the deviant freaks belong to Gas Town, all the polecats are from there.

>>81734881
Hmmm.
>Accuses me of putting words in your mouth
>Proceeds to put a bunch of words in my mouth
You're a highly intelligent individual.

DLet's start over then. What is your argument? Mine is that though many in the thread insist that Fury Road does not need good dialogue or any at all to be good, and was in fact good because the lack of it, they are missing the fact that the film itself as a whole was poorly written. A lack of good dialogue is merely a symptom of the poor writing that the film tries to overcome with bombastic and "pituresque" visuals. There are films that are actually good with little to no dialogue and Fury Road is not one of them.

>>81735238

Both are full sized vehicles, if you're on Facebook look up the page 'Cinematography', they have a video of the filming of the crash.

>>81735319
So you could have just said that you think that Fury Road has poorly written dialogue, not that visual language is "chimp tier" which is a ridiculous, absurd and retarded statement.

>>81735319
I joined the discussion about show don't tell vs expository dialogue entirely seperately from any Mad Max discussion. I couldn't care less about Fury Road, my argument is simply that if you can show something visually it is better than to do so through exposition.

You came in shitposting about my intelligence so I shitpost in kind, though it seems obvious that this was all entirely unneccessary

I think we can all agree Fury Road was GODTIER action kino?

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>>81735549
This desu.

>>81735549

>Retarded character design
>SJW plot
>Awful editing
>boring chase sequences
>CGI all over the god damn screen

Yeah real kino right there

kys

>people watching Mad Max Fury Road expecting Shakespeare

what the fuck are these people?

>>81735633
>SJW boogeyman because it has a woman in it
>incorrect b8

10/10 shitpost anon

>>81735633
The only thing why you hate it is because of the /pol/ boogeyman you see everywhere, admit it.

I know for a fact that you can't form a single actual buzzword free argument of why do you think the editing is "awful", or the production design because it's literally flawless in the execution of every single technical element.

>went to see MMFR the same day as the Cannes premiere
>absolutely loved it
>/tv/ in utter chaos over the vagina monologues article
christ what a shitshow

>>81735479
That's clearly not what I said. Wtf.
>There are films that are actually good with little to no dialogue and Fury Road is not one of them.
>>81735516
Shitpost? All of my posts were coherent arguments, yet all I got in return were insults and accusations of b8ing, not necessarily all from you but in general.

I agree that showing is mostly superior to telling through expository dialogue, but showing IS a way of "telling" a story as a whole. Think of good dialogue as "showing" a story because it gives us a way to learn more about characters and see into their minds. You can learn a lot about a person not by what he says but why or how he says it.

Though you can achieve a great level of complexity with actions alone like the silent movies, dialogue simply adds another layer of expression that can let filmmakers tell a more compelling and complete story. There are movies with all action and no dialogue that are masterpieces, and there are movies with no action and all dialogue that are masterpieces, yet if the core writing (for the entire film) isn't good, then no amount of fancy visuals nor dialogue will save it.

>>81735633

>SJW plot

nice mene right there

there is actually nothing SJW about it if you're a normal person and not a /pol/tard who thinks Immortan Joe is "redpilled"

>>81734742
I've been thinking, /tv/. You kids like to throw words like pleb and patrician around like you studied film theory at the University of Quentin Tarantino. You'll argue over Marvel and DC until you're blue in the face. But I bet not one of you can tell me how Kant's theory of the sublime relates to Drive. If I asked you what your favourite films are, you might name The Dark Knight Trilogy or Star Wars: The Force Awakens. You'd tell me the cinematography in those films was excellent and how JJ Abrams' use of flashbacks mirrors our perception of memory. You'll praise Snyder as the epitome of philosophical, yet if I asked you what influence Kierkegaard had on Bergman's Winter Light you'd have to go to Wikipedia to look it up. Look at yourself, /tv/. I don't see erudite patricians interested in advancing their understanding of cinematic form, I see scared children hopelessly trying to convince themselves they're better than everyone else. No one could possibly understand the depths of you. Yet you have the arrogance to call others plebs. Why don't you go and do something with your life instead of making everyone around you miserable?

>>81735633
>Any plot where a woman is strong is SJW
This is just as bad as the SJWs themselves who say any movie without strong women is sexist.

Fucking

>>81732885
>caring for dialogue
you need to.go back

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>>81732856
My favorite one. The look of sheer incredulity at how fucking stupid Furiosa was as a closing shot was a stroke of brilliance.

>>81732885
WITNESS ME

>>81736041
You're a first year grad student. You just got finished reading some film Historian, Armond White probably. You're gonna' be convinced of that until next month when you get to Roger Ebert, then you're gonna' be talking about how the cinematography of Bergman and Kurosawa were experimental and surrealist way back in 1940. That's gonna' last until next year, you're gonna' be in here regurgitating Evan Puschak, talking about ya know, the Pre-Technicolor utopia and the kinographical forming effects of sound and colorization.

this movie is a 10/10 just for the scene where the guy has bullet teeth and he pulls one out to put in his gun

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This is a film board you iqlet videogame player

>>81736475
Really? so if the rest of the movie was my little pony except for that scene you'd still be satisfied with your movie experience?

Obviously you would, it was 10/10 xD

>>81736535
KILLKID debunked your rhetoric already in >>81736041

>>81736535
All 3 of those are fantastic.

So is thunderdome but I realize that's an unpopular opinion.

>>81736568
samefaggot tripnigger

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>>81736568
Your boy is posting an edited version of a pasta I made years ago, newshit. Don't you fucking dare reply to me until you have at least 8 years on /tv/

>>81736537
>The same tripfag is shitposting in literally every thread I open up
I know you get off on people calling you a faggot because you're so very starved for attention, but please kill yourself faggot.

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>>81736041
Of course that's your contention. You're a first-year film student; you just got finished watching some nouvelle vague cinema, Jacques Rivette probably. You're gonna be convinced of that 'till next month when you get to Godard's maoist period. Then you're going to be talking about how Truffaut's shamelessly became petit bourgeois after the 60's. That's gonna last until next year; you're gonna be in here regurgitating André Bazin, talkin' about, you know, caméra-stylo and mise-en-scène.

"Resnais's use of flashbacks mirrors our perception of memory"? You got that from Cahiers du Cinéma n° 97, page 98, right? Yeah, I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you, is that your thing, you come on 4chan, quote some obscure opinion and then pretend - you pawn it off as your own, as your own idea just to impress some virgins, embarrass my tripfriends? See, the sad thing about a guy like you is, in 50 years you're gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you're going to come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life: one, don't do that, and two, you dropped 150 grand on a fuckin' education you could have got for a low ratio warning on karagarga.

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>Mad Max Fury Road was not nominated for the Oscar for Best Original Score

don't understand that desu. The score was half of what made the movie great

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>>81735633

>Awful editing
>boring chase sequences
>CGI all over the god damn screen

You're an idiot

>>81736681
Kek I was trying to be lowkey >>81736438

But this is hilarious.

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challenge: completed

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>>81736935
incorrect sir.
this frame is the purest of kino and single highhandedly made the movie GOAT for me

>>81736935
>implying this wasn't intentionally bad to highlight the immorality and evil of the People Eater

bravo, Miller

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>>81736935
>china lake on an rpd
to what end, miller?

>>81735649
Mad Max (1979) was "Shakespeare"

>>81737022
> grenade launcher on a machine gun

Absolutely no idea why someone would have that, chummer


unrelated but the amount of bait and shit posters in this thread is unreal. Why do fags get so anally annihilated about such a good film?

>>81736005
This is my first post in this thread, of which I just did a brief read-through, so I'm coming from a neutral place here.

If you laid out a coherent argument in this thread, I couldn't find it. You say the dialogue in the film is bad, which alright, but then you claim that THAT isn't only what makes it poorly written, that it's poorly written "as a whole." The only support (that I could find) for your argument that it's poorly written is "because it knows it is and is relying on the EBIN visuals to fool plebs..." For a guy claiming you've laid out this convincing argument and criticizing others for not having an argument and demanding counter arguments, thou really protest too much.

If you really want to present an argument that the film was poorly written, I'd recommend starting with cogent reasons why written elements other than dialogue weren't successful. Because I would argue that part of what makes Fury Road great (and while I recognize that this is subjective, you should also realize that you're on the contrarian side here and probably have a higher burden of proof when it comes to convincing people why 99% of people who write about film for a living are wrong) is the world building and character design and the contribution to the Mad Max mythos and the stunning practical effects and just the sheer originality and atmosphere and etc etc. This shit wasn't improvised on the spot by a director saying whoa this movie is poorly written so let's put in awesome shit to distract away from that. No, the awesome shit was written too.

>>81734461
100% this. Mad Max never had any actual intellectual or thematic center. Fury Road does, and that's not to mention that it simply has better filmmaking and storytelling than the preceding three films.

>>81733165
it is, like almost all hollywood movies, a popcorn action flick. however, it is one of the best action flicks in recent history. the cinematography and editing is one of highest quality.
that said, an actual cinematic masterpiece still doesn't need good dialogue as movies are a visual medium.

>>81735022
WITNESS!

>>81732856
This movie was shit compared to the originals.

>>81735310
There is. It makes everything orange. Which is fine in a desert film but looks shit anything else.

>>81740731
do you know what masterpiece means?

>>81742407
But we are talking about a desert film ya dummy

>>81742800
yes, metropolis is a masterpiece for example, and has no spoken dialogue.

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>>81732856

Wait what the fuck? Is he wearing a "survival bracelet"?

That's the gayest shit I never noticed.

>>81735479
>t. chimp

>>81743026
Lol paracord bracelets are useful as fuck newfag

How else could you get up to 20 feet of durable line/rope in arms reach, and taking up minimal space at the same time?

>picture books are a visual medium novels are inferior

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>>81736681
how do you like them shitposts uh?

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>>81736681
>this fucking post
I love this shithole

>>81743026
thats his cockring you stupid faggot

>>81740157
I want a response to this post.

>>81733432
Putting 'le' in front of a massive oversimplification of something doesn't trivialise it, it just makes you look like a moron

>>81733518
>George Miller actually had these guys kill themselves to get the perfect shot.

>>81744606
I couldn't read it at all

>>81732856
I thought most of /tv/ hated this movie?