Why dont you all hate this forced diversity that is being rammed

>>81713693
We do all hate it.

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>>81713693
>can't seperate real /tv/ posters with marketing shills

It's confirmed that TFA is a pile of nostalgia bait shit. Mickey is just shitting up this board until the next shit movie releases.

Also, trees

>>81713925
>DUDE SHILLS LMAO
hello /v/eddit

>>81713693

Why do you care which arbitrary gender is the lead in a movie? Who gives a shit

what they should have done is make rey a naturally powerful force user who doesnt know what the force is but its just natural to her almost like a play thing

have this be her gimmick and drop the power womyn, top notch pilot and technician crap and the story would have been much more interesting

nignog could have been the technician and poe would have been the pilot and together they would have taken BB8 to the nurebels

>>81713980
he is right

soon as a trailer releases there are numerous threads about a series that went to shit

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>>81713693

Because it's Star Wars and I don't fucking care about whatever garbage lense you fags see the movie through.

>>81714037
>being surprised that a popular franchise gets threads about it when it releases new shit
How autistic are you?

>>81714066
>has a picture saved to use when he gets triggered
>doesn't see any irony

>>81714192
Who said he was triggered? He's just making an observation.

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>>81714066

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>>81713693
>Why dont you all hate this forced diversity that is being rammed down our throats. They've literally ruined two star wars films.
>Nobodys suspension of disbelief can cover a woman beating up a man. Its just ridiculous

>>81714066
this, kek

>>81714026
women are not heroes. they just aren't. they dont have the physical strength, discipline, bravery, toughness or skill to be. So it just comes across as femnist propaganda.

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>>81714340
>women are not heroes. they just aren't. they dont have the physical strength, discipline, bravery, toughness or skill to be. So it just comes across as femnist propaganda.

>>81714136
thats the point. they ruined star wars. women beating up men. what the actual fuck

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>>81714402

>>81714402
>who is Princess Leai
>who is Padme
my fucking sides

>>81714397

that's literally, l i t e r a l l y, true.

>>81714371
tell me one woman who has ever done a heroic thing ever

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>>81714340

>>81714340
Why do you have to throw out of the window your credibility that fucking fast?

>>81714461
here: have 3
florence nightingale
boudica
joan of arc

>>81714433
they didnt beat up anybody, and if they did it was in a group so it wasnt as rammed down our throat as the last two star wars films have been

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>>81714516
you're obsessed with having things rammed down ya throat, you tryin to tell us you a faggot son?

>>81714507
florence nightingale wasnt a hero, she was just doing what women do.
joan of arc and boudica got Back the fuck down and put in their place immediately

>>81714507
>boudica
>killed small roman forces and civilians
>lost a battle where she outnumbered her opponent 10-1

DROPPED

>joan of arc
>didn't even participate battle
>got wounded by missile
>glorified cheerleader

Not even picked up to drop.

>>81714596
they were still brave tho you triggered cuck.

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>>81713693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJwQuTqqPvo

>>81713693

How could I ever hate such kino?

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>>81714596
>>81714605

>>81714489
were you born with such a small and unappealing penis, or have you just been taking estrogen

the disneyshill samefagging in this thread.. how do we fight them?

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>>81713980
>>81714026
>>81714141
>>81714295
>>81714371
>>81714397
>>81714432
>>81714464

>>81714626
okay so you had to go back literally thousands of years to get a total of 3 women that fit 1 or the 5 criteria i mentioned to be heroes

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>>81713693

But diversity is this kino's strength!

>>81714340

Says some basement dwelling neckbeard. At best you probably have some kind of sys admin job. No actual experience with armed conflict. No real training

So unless you do, go fuck yourself.

>>81714688
>>81714696

why do you assume we are disney? theres a faggot cuck crying that one character in recent star wars films is female. he certainly doesnt complain about the black guy, hes mad tyrone left him for helen clearly.

>>81714626
triggered - fuck yes!. cuck ?! i'm the one complaining about the fucking women and nignogs in these films. do you even know what a cuck is

>>81714650
this pleb things any star wars film is kino, let alone the worst two of the lot.
They werent even good action movies, let alone kinos

>>81714703
ok name 3 men who fit all your critera then mr triggered cuck.

>>81714743
>TFA = female main character
>Rogue One = female main character
>Battlefront 2 = female main character
>Last Jedi = female main character
>Forces of Destiny = female only focused show
>Episode IX = female main character
>Not one new white male character in a lead role since disney takeover

BUY OUR TOYS WHITE MAN!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP1EWYTD94o

>>81714226
He's been non-stop spamming that image for weeks anon. Triggered as fuck

>>81714823
There are only two confirmed new female characters in that entire list.

>>81714838
>what is shitposting
You must be new.

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>>81714745
>i'm the one complaining about the fucking women and nignogs in these films. do you even know what a cuck is
you didnt complain about the nignog tho. you clearly love the big black cock and is angry its being denied to you.

>>81714657
>telling the truth
>u mad
Kek. Refute what they said anon

>>81714823
>OMG WOMEN IN THINGS! OH NO THE WORLD IS ENDING!

>>81714743
you dont know what a cuck is obviouslky
i'm complaining about both films having female protagonists, and fucking ethnics everywhere, including even an arab. i'm the opposite of a cuck

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>>81714872
>>telling the truth
>>u mad

>>81714847
Battlefront 2 female main character confirmed
Forces of destiny not new characters but even worse more feminist pandering

try again disneyshill

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>this level of samefagging from both sides

>>81714596
>she was just doing what women do.

that's actually a damn good argument as to the types of heroes women are destined to be

she was a hero anon, an actual, feminine hero. the traditional female counterpart of the traditional male hero.

>>81714920
>can't refute it
Kek. Go back to Disney bro youbsuck at this

>>81714857
i complained about the diversity in general, but the black man took a much smaller role.

at least a black hero is believable

>>81714882
strawman

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>>81714893
>you dont know what a cuck is obviouslky
>i'm complaining about both films having female protagonists, and fucking ethnics everywhere, including even an arab. i'm the opposite of a cuck

>>81714872
you can tell it's a woman. nu-males at least attempt to rationalize their retarded positions because they still have enough testosterone left to care slightly about rationality. women argue solely with insults and shaming attempts

>>81714882
women should never be the main hero in an action film. its just stupid.

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>>81713693
>>81714696
Daily reminder.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492393111658.webm

>>81714066
/thread

>>81715043
>>81714371
>>81714397
>>81714295
Disney shills are trying different tactics. lets see if it pays off.

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>>81714626
>>81714786
>triggered cuck

how cute, xe's using big boy words.

>>81714965
this

>>81714971
but you havent refuted my question either cuck, you've provides no examples

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>>81715071

>>81714786
heres 3500 for you. Oh yes, there is 1 woman on that list. Not in this century though

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>>81715044
>you can tell it's a woman. nu-males at least attempt to rationalize their retarded positions because they still have enough testosterone left to care slightly about rationality. women argue solely with insults and shaming attempts

>>81715050
>he thinks alien is stupid

confirmed for pleb.

>>81715093
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Medal_of_Honor_recipients (real heros)

and thats how women should be portrayed in film - not trying to do what a man does - kick ass and take names - but doing what a man cant do - have kids and be motherly

>>81715135
>heres 3500 for you
name 3 mr fedora.

>>81715168
>survival horror is action

>>81714921
Okay, so three female characters, one of whom is in a video game. Who gives a shit. Half of the list is just complaining about one trilogy anyways

>Forces of destiny
Is literally just a two-part tv special. It's not even a new series.

>>81715199
>he wont even name any names he just links to wikipedia

there are plenty of women serving in the forces moron.

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>>81715199

>>81715093
Still haven't refuted a thing Disney boi. Boudica BTFO by an army a tenth her size, got herself and her followers butchered. Joan of Arc didn't fight, was a cheerleader got herself butchered.

And a woman famous for doing her job.

>heroes

Go back to Disney you spamming samefag

>>81715050
Who cares if the setting has supernatural elements like in Star Wars?

>>81715227
there arent plenty - there is a small minority and joining the army alone does not make you a hero. Winning a Medal for Heroism does . and only 1 of 3500 won that

>>81715200

if you'll recall, the only person obsessed with fedoras in this thread is the testosterone-challenged individual who is arguing with him

>>81715271
are you that naive and blind. One film I would let it slide, when its all the new films, tv shows, and video games with the same shit. then its obvious

>>81715227
>he just links to wikipedia

what's in the link, shirly?

>>81715199
http://userpages.aug.com/captbarb/medals.html

list of women who have recieved medals for various military service.

>>81715227
Not an argument. The Medal of Honor is given to heroes. In its entire history one was given to a woman and that was during the Civil War

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>mfw all these triggered roasties and mickey shills

>>81714433

>who is Princess (Leai)
>who is Padme

Semi critical characters that, while verbally stoic, didn't do shit physically in the grand scheme of things.

>>81715286
>he assumes theres only two people here

>>81715322
>1 medal of honor to a woman
>was later rescinded
JUST

>>81715317
>hes so fucking lazy he cant be bothered to cut and paste 3 names from a page

oh yeah you defo a triggered obese fedora, you're as lazy as one.

>>81715270
>And a woman famous for doing her job.

As many soldiers do, anon.
Excelling in your work can be very heroic.
It's a good thing.

There are feminine heroes and masculine heroes, in every culture, throughout history. You don't want to argue those points.
Stick to the hollywood wannabes.

>>81715353
>didn't do shit physically in the grand scheme of things
It's almost like you didn't even watch Episode II, oh but wait your shitposting. Alright never mind then.

>>81715332
see
>>81715322
and stop being a triggered cuck.

>>81715385
>shit I'm getting BTFO
>better start talking about fedoras that will win them over
Disney please

>>81715322
yeah theres like 5 women on that list, and most of them are given for being good nurses. Not one of those women would outperform even the worst man in their entire squadron

>>81713693
>implying diversity is what ruined the last two movies

/pol/ is calling

>>81715423
That literally confirms what he said you retard

>>81713693
ITS 2017 ANON GROW UP

>>81715439
so only soldiers are tough? most of these women gave their lives serving men, are you really complaining about that? should women just let you die then?

>>81715271
>if the setting has supernatural elements like in Star Wars

There are still rules and tasteful ways to express them. The goal is always consistency, and behind that, theme.
Gandalf doesn't carry a staff and whisper to butterflies just to look cool and be magical. It's to express a theme, and it's only effective because it's canonically sound.

>>81715451
People who don't care about making a good movie shoehorning crap in is what made the movie crap. Diversity was one of the things they shoehorned in.

>>81715423
>links to article that proves my point
JUST

>>81715423
this cuck is getting BTFO'd hard.

>>81715270
If we're going to complain about realism then the original trilogy wasn't realistic either. Luke was just a farmboy raised in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with no formal military training and yet is an expert pilot who is able to beat a bunch of trained military men

>>81715432
>if i say this anon is being BTFO maybe they wont catch that im crying right now

sure, jan.

>>81713693
When are white folk going to realise there are actually other races besides their own? You literally enslaved another race.

Also, its a force-sensitive woman dealing with non-force-sensitive men. Nerd up.

>>81715385

anon this is getting embarrassing you have to stop

>>81715484
Yes exactly, its not 2016 anymore. Trump won. So can you left wind fuckwits go back to the way it has always been up until the last decade or so

>>81715516
>shit I have no argument better change the subject
You are bad at your job Disney boi

>>81715439
>>81715465
>its a samefag whiteknighting himself episode

pityful. *tut tut*

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>this thread

>>81714516
>>81714433
>They didn't beat up anyone
>Leia literally chokes a 3000 pound slugman to death with a chain.

>>81715516
meant to reply to
>>81714402

>>81714713

i just got a new computer and all my boner reaction pics are on the old one but

>huge boner

>>81715523
Yawn. More ad hominems

>>81715495
then rey should have been a fucking nurse.
My point is the characters are so overthetop its not even subtle feminist propaganda

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>>81715537

>>81715565
>slugman
Slugs are trannies. It makes sense they'd be easy to beat up.

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>>81715565
>actually using an example in your argument
Not enough shitposting in your post, anonpai. Step your game up.

>>81715532
exactly! we enslaved you, not the other way around. so why the fuck do you think you can call the shot nignog
To the victor (white man) go the spoils

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I have absolutely no problem with a female lead. Just stop shoving this shit down our throats. Make a good story and maybe people won't complain as much. It's honestly not that fucking hard. Obviously Kathleen Kennedy is behind it all and is doing it to get back at George for her being passed around as his secretary back in the day and at Disney to get to where she is now.

>>81713693
Being completely honest, I just don't like Rey as a character because she's a woman. I just dislike female characters, as autistic as that sounds. I think the only female protagonist I like is Princess Leia and she's still my least favorite of the original characters.

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>>81715532
>one half of the thread think like this, the other just shitpost like it

in the end it doesn't matter, this board is identical to leddit now, there is no reason for them to stay but they continue to do it out of autism. I just want to talk about movies guys...

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>>81715556
The last refuge of a man with no argument

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>>81713693

>Twins, one male, one female
>Just like Luke and Leia
>The female "discovers" the Force at a place that becomes known as the "Force Tree"
>The female twin founds the Jedi Order
>The male twin is evil and kills the female.
>Before she dies she makes a prophecy that she will return as The One
>Meanwhile Darth Sidious creates Anakin Skywalker to be a false prophet / golem type creation
>The Jedi are fooled into thinking he's The One
>The Jedi only realize their mistake too late.
>Anakin destroys almost all the Jedi
>Luke tries to redeem his evil father who literally slaughtered children.
>Rey is born and she is the perfect reincarnation of The One. Flawless in every way.
>She finds Luke Skywalker, who now just like his evil father, wants to destroy the Jedi Order

Rey will stop Luke's plans, restore order to the galaxy, and will destroy the dark side. She will also bring about the rise of the new Jedi order as predicted by Supreme Leader Snoke in TFA.

The entire Star Wars saga is about how women are good and men are evil.

The women are all leaders (Padme, Leia, Rey, Mon Mothma)

The men are all drawn to the dark side (Anakin, Palpatine, Snoke, Kylo)

>>81715598
>is the one insulting others
>complains about ad hominens

faggot please.

>>81715599
>woman in a main role is feminist propaganda
lemme guess you think superman is a biopic too?

>>81714340
Anon its 2017. We don't use logic or common sense when looking at women. They and black people can never do anything wrong.

>>81715484
>GROW UP
>being an ageist shitlord in 2017

You hate to admit it but yes it's actually a good thing to discuss moral topics you disagree on.
You would never expect to be told to "grow up" arguing AGAINST a character like op - it's a cheap silencing tactic used exclusively by your peers. If you can't outargue him, you've lost. No amount of "lel u virgin" changes that.

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>>81715640
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/IMG_0872.jpg/
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/IMG_0879.png/
Was it autism?

>>81715639
>he went to the trouble of using paint to try and convince us hes not a samefag

*tut tut* also not an argument :^)

>>81713693
there are more women than men anon

call her character unrealistic, but if you thinking having a female lead is diverse you're an idiot

>>81715676
Problem?

I'm just going to keep posting it and there's nothing you can do about it

>>81715656
More ad hominems. Can't refute anything so spergs out and wrecks the thread. Man Disney must be hiring some real """intellectuals""" if this is the best you can offer

>>81715601

Anon we don't need to see your fugly crying face just use your words

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>>81715704
Definitely autism

>>81715684
you are really really good at making bait anon

>>81715630
I think I can call the shot white boi because your first mistake was setting us free.

Now we gonna rape your white wymyn while you watch, while our muslim niggas make mince meat out of ya.

>>81714033
This.

Rey is the fighter who uses the force without realizing what she's doing, just like Anakin in the Podracer.

Poe is the resourceful one, a Rebel agent able to think his way out of the pickles that they all get into.

Finn is the pilot, a First Order TIE/shuttle pilot whose defection allows Poe to escape from the star destroyer. He flies them off of Jakku and is instrumental in helping to plot the attack against starkiller base.

There, I just fixed TFA.

>>81715684
>he is so unused to this site he can't tell when he's looking at a phoneposter
Outing yourself Disney

>>81715640
>men bad! women good!

I can't believe they're doing this.

>>81715656
women as a main role in action film, then yep you bet your fat ass it's feminist propaganda.
if you cant see that, then you're so whiteknighted, it'll be decades before you touched a pussy

>>81715699
this.

>>81715640
I will turn my back on this franchise forever if this happens.

>>81715640
APPOLOGIZE TO GEORGE RIGHT NOW!!

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>>81715719
what is there to refute, you asked and i answered all your questions. you are the one screaming women are not brave despite being awarded for their bravery so im sorry your triggered, not my problem bro.

not having white male leads as the hero in my space opera ruins my space

>>81715724
>hes seriously trying to cover up his crying by pretending he doesnt know what those replies mean

kek

>>81715565
She sneaks up behind a creature known for being fat, unhealthy, and slow-moving and chokes him from an area out of his reach.

Admit it anon - this is how a cunning yet frail, feminine hero does the job. It doesn't piss anyone off, because she's still fitting her role.

Admit that women have roles and fitting into them is not a bad thing.

>>81715821
>if I use enough buzzwords I'll win!
One Medal of Honor given to a nurse and later revoked

>>81715757
hmm im not disney, in fact im not much of a star wars fan. like if you guys dont like this shit then dont go to the cinema and give them your money. its an easy solution.

>>81715640
Just end this saga already.

>>81715766
If you're being this triggered by a woman leading an action film, you're the pussy, not me.

underworld is fucking kino.

>>81715852

But I'm not crying dude. Why are you pretending that I'm crying? And laughing on top of that?
This is not a game of pretend anon. You have a problem...

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>>81713693
>A woman beating up a man is unrealistic
>But a farmboy raised in a desert shithole in the middle of nowhere with no formal military training or education somehow being an expert space fighter pilot because he shot some rats and defeating a bunch of trained military troops is okay

>>81715821
dude you've literally been backed the fuck down by myself and god knows how many others, and still claiming you have the upper hand.
Women are given medal for performing womanly duties, this is how they should be portrayed in films.

>>81715874
>medal of honor is the only thing that counts!!!

aww bless its babby's first argument. she still got one tho :^)

>>81715955
>false equivalence: the post

>>81713693
Because it's only bad if the writing and plot and acting are bad, if they find talentless hacks and throw them in solely on the basis of race or gender.

Rey was fine, so was Jyn.

What was the issue with either of them? Rey was a mary-sue but it seems like she might get a bit more development in Last Jedi.

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>>81715766
>women as a main role in action film, then yep you bet your fat ass it's feminist propaganda.
>if you cant see that, then you're so whiteknighted, it'll be decades before you touched a pussy

>>81715936
>you're a pussy unless you tolerate my feminist trans-cock propaganda anon
>quit being a pussy and lick my glans, anon

This argument is so weak.
And patronizing at that. What's wrong with pussy, anon?

>>81715975
>so BTFO he resorts to babby and smiley face
Kek. Ya bud. The medal awarded for the ultimate displays of courage. A woman got one (1) which was later taken off her. Such a brave group

why are men this threatened by strong women in fantasy films? non-rhetorical question.

>>81715955
>Forgetting that farmboy was already an established pilate was trained by a legendary warrior, and a bigger warrior jedi
>random chick from literally who can beat a novice sith

Not bad mickey, but at least know the product you are trying to shill.

>>81713693
Who fucking cares. A good character is a good character, regardless of gender.

>>81715980
The fuck are you on about? It's the same fucking shit.

>two

Rogue One didn't seem too forced tbqh. Was it diverse? Yes. But it felt pretty normal.

Fuck TFA tho.

>>81714340
>physical strength
That's generally addressed in both movies. Jyn uses full-body martial arts and guns, Rey uses a staff and the force.

>discipline, bravery, toughness or skill
I take it you've only ever seen or interacted with women in your homeroom class.

>>81715980
Okay, so how are they not equivalent? They're both highly unrealistic scenarios that are not applicable to real life where someone is able to beat someone else much stronger or more capable than they are. Yet only when the former happens suddenly he can't suspend his disbelief

>>81713693

Oh no, not Star Wars (tm)

>>81716047
Kek. Disney go watch your own product for fucks sake

>>81715936
underworld?! haha seriously?! are you 12.

>>81715969
>dude you've literally been backed the fuck down by myself and god knows how many others,

you whiteknighting yourself doesnt count, and the fact you are ignoring anything that counters your wrong assertion just shows how much of a triggered beta you are. even time is disgreeing with you, bro

http://nation.time.com/2011/08/24/women-are-heroes-too/

>>81715955

It makes you wonder if underneath all this fantasy, there is some kind of inescapable tie to reality, and given that our visceral reactions to certain kinds imagery are inevitable, maybe artists should take that into account, to make valid, honest work.

>>81716071
>changing the subject
Luke was a retard who got his ass handed to him constantly

>>81715888
we don't, but faggots like you still do, so it continues.
thanks anon,

>>81715759
>>81715786
>>81715812
>If men are bad goys then it must be the kikes!
In the Clone Wars, y'know, the show that George ran, the manifestation of the Light was female and the Dark was male. This is a common theme in literature. A theme that existed before the SJWs and evil hollywood joos. Women used to represent innocence. Men corrupt that. SJWs should hate this story more than you manbabies.

>>81716016
you either didnt read the reply before it, or you trolling. also strawman.

>>81716032
only betas, incels and fedoras are. the rest of us dont care.

>>81716034
>Forgetting that farmboy was already an established pilate was trained by a legendary warrior, and a bigger warrior jedi

Obi Wan only trained him in the Force, not on how to fly a spaceship. Also
>spelling pilot wrong

>random chick from literally who can beat a novice sith

He was heavily injured by Chewbacca's bowcaster

>>81714823
>not one new white male
Who is Po?

And I don't get why it has to be a white guy. IF you want to talk about physical skill or strength, it should be an Asian or black guy. They beat whites in skill and strength on average, respectively.

>>81716048
it was worse than TFA. I couldn't last 30 minutes. - i quit when they were on that desert planet and she evaded and beat up 50 armed stormtroopers

>>81716166
>these are the buzzwords disney told me are disliked on 4chan

>>81716023
>he think if he ignores the truth like
http://nation.time.com/2011/08/24/women-are-heroes-too/
he can keep saying everyone else is BTFO

you see thats the trouble with arguing with a retard like you, it will just go on and on.

>actually has a female lead for once
GET THESE WOMYN FEMINAZIS OUT OF MY SIGHT AMIRKTE GUYZZZZ XDD
*starts furiously circlejerking edgelords on /tv/*

"Mixed" cast has been a thing since the original trilogy
Get the fuck out you prepubescent peasant

>>81715867
>Implying I disagree
Admit that your original point was retarded.

>>81716063
jyn uses martial arts against men who know martial arts...and wins every time

rey uses the force against a man that has decades more experience than her with it, and wins

>>81716194
>whites curbstomp every other race for military dominance
>literally top tier at war
>constantly killing each other for centuries
>if they get bored of that they go someplace new and btfo the locals for keks
asians and niggers both have been repeatedly fucked up in conflict with whites anon

>>81716079
like how you didnt deny you're a triggered cuck.

>but faggots like you still do
why do you think i have seen it? goodness the rage is strong with this one jej

>>81716211
>he cant refute the truth so keeps spouting disney and hoping it sticks

>>81716092
>http://nation.time.com/2011/08/24/women-are-heroes-too/
that article is writen by a woman. talk about self-promoting. and Time hasnt been relevant for two decades

>>81716231
One Medal of Honor. You couldn't successfully name three brave women in all of recorded human history Disney. Take your L like a man

>>81716237
top kek.

>>81713693
>Nobodys suspension of disbelief can cover a woman beating up a man. Its just ridiculous
lel

>>81716187
>Obi Wan only trained him in the Force, not on how to fly a spaceship.

He was already a good pilot before.

>He was heavily injured by Chewbacca's bowcaster

NOVICE SITH.

Doesn't matter if the guy lost an arm. The faggot could have still beaten someone that never touched a saber.

>>81714252
>That'll show them

>>81716295
>spouting buzzwords from my list is the truth. i am an anon and have been here for years

>>81716187
>He was heavily injured by Chewbacca's bowcaster
>i-it doesn't matter that he was still throwing her into trees and shit and the choreography in his fight with rey didn't indicate he was held back by the injury
>everyone knows that bowcaster injuries give you a penalty to DEX, STR, and STA so it makes sense he was physically overpowered by a 100 pound girl who learned about the force yesterday

>>81716207
What the honest fuck are you talking about

She was following the spanish guy's lead, everyone was fighting with guns, not hand to hand, and the stormtroopers were too busy fighting forest whitaker's rebel soldiers to even realize her and Juan Carlito were attacking them too.

That's why whitaker's guy kidnapped them in t he first place, he noticed they blew up some non-stormtrooper dudes too amidst the chaos.

When they ended up surrounded by stormtroopers, chinaman went full jedi and killed them all for her and her dude. You were clearly not paying attention to the movie.

>>81716328
>Doesn't matter if the guy lost an arm. The faggot could have still beaten someone that never touched a saber.
It's almost like she has experience using melee weapons from her time on Jakuu.

>>81716231
dude, cant you tell based on the responses, you're arguing with at least 5 people, no less than that could post that quickly

>>81716111
So? Him getting beaten up doesn't change the fact that him somehow magically being an expert space pilot despite his background is a highly unrealistic scenario. OP was complaining about suspension of disbelief and yet he has no problem with this

>>81716310
>heres proof of women recieveing medals for bravery serving
>Well it was written by someone i dislike, so nah

why not just come out and say you hate women anon? lets be real its not like you are actually willing to accept reality.

>>81716317
Neither could you.

also shouldnt you be on /pol/ right now?

>>81716032

I wouldn't call it threat as much as disgust anon.
It's not logical.
But your need to invalidate others with emasculating language, on the other hand, suggests a certain defensive, threatened air.

Anyway, you'll never see anon complaining about Ridley from Alien. She's a strong, feminine, thematically consistent heroine. So there's a solid contradiction to your strawman if you needed one.

>>81713693
Could you cram more memes into a single post?
Also, you can't beg for people to hate something. You're an attention deprived child that needs to fuck off.

>>81716341
>if i keep saying buzzwords maybe people will forgot im spouting shit

ok anon ok, everything is buzzwords.

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>>81714252
XD

>>81716295
its the guy not knowing what a cuck is.

Cucks are the fucking people that promote and support this SJW diversity. Know Your Your Shit

>>81716166
>rest of us dont care.

You do, though. You're just avoiding confrontation. Though if it came down to a situation where you didn't have a choice but to address the issue, you'd sperg the fuck out because you never practiced arguing against it.

>>81716378
He was an excellent shot anon and only managed to make the shot when Han Solo saved his life. Without Han Vader BTFO's Luke and the series is over.

Mary Sue needs no help from anyone and is somehow the GOAT in everything she does immediately

>>81716366
>hes never heard of the 4chan pass

anon pls.

>>81716420
At this point, buzzword is a buzzword.

>>81716379
>more buzzwords
No anon I could not name three brave women in history. Women have never excelled in combat except in the fantasies of Hollywood kikes

>>81716414
kek, this!

>>81716258

What was my original point anon? I want to make sure you're responding to one that I made, and not someone else's, or your own misunderstanding of mine.

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>>81716264
But she is reincarnated tree girl

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>>81716470
>>81716487
like pottery

>>81716379
all of 4chan is /pol/ you idiot. we're all the same people. Newfag detected

>>81716328
>He was already a good pilot before.

There was nothing establishing this other than

>I used to bullseye womprats in my T-16

So shooting some rats somehow puts him on par with experienced, trained military personnel from a giant empire, with formal training and education.

>>81716317
>moving the goal posts: the post
/pol/ argues better than this

>>81716420
>have no point outside of ad hominems
>scream about fedoras non stop
>hurr durr im not using buzzwords

>>81716526
>unironically using newfag

Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it...

>>81716453
>You do, though. You're just avoiding confrontation. Though if it came down to a situation where you didn't have a choice but to address the issue, you'd sperg the fuck out because you never practiced arguing against it.
>being this triggered

im not the one who made a thread screaming about being mad that a film which is set in space with aliens is unrealistic because it has a female lead. also this isnt reddit, you wont get any fedora tips here.

>>81716523
Kikes isnt a buzzword moron its a slur. Learn2english

>>81715630
Because if you're halfway intelligent and have a developed frontal cortex, you realize there's a morality beyond Might makes Right.

If it truly were Might makes Right, you, anon, would be dead already.

>>81716538
Take your L like a man.

>>81716574
no that was me, you moron.

>>81716470
>>81716487
>if i keep saying buzzwords maybe people wont realise i have no argument.
>also if i ignore the linked articles given about women winning medals for combat i wont have my world view challenged and i can remain smug while i stuff my face with cheetos and fap to vocaloid.

>>81716454
It's not just the shot, it's the entire sequence in space. He is skilled enough as a pilot to outlast all of the other rebel pilots except for Wedge. He can go toe to toe with trained military men even though he has virtually no experience outside of shooting some rats.

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kekels me shekels

>women want representation in films
>that's a good thing

>men also want representation in films
>that's somehow bad

No reasonable person can deny the double standard in this thread

You see tons of straw men like "why are men threatened strong female?"

Meanwhile why are women threatened by strong male leads?

No one is threatened. They just want the same thing, a character with which they can identify and self insert.

Anyone who tells you this is wrong is your typical human garbage /tv/ poster

>>81716237
It's been addressed several times that female leads existed previously who weren't just hollow manifestations of SJW gayness.
Both inside and outside of this particular series. There's a right and wrong way to do it.
So your characterization of the opposition to this movie being solely a chauvinistic one is totally your own projection.

In fact, it's proof, in a way, that those people are right when they say it's just feminist propaganda.
Because you're showing that you only support it as a reaction to some perceived "edgelords" that don't exist. "It's a strong female lead that you could only dislike if you're a meninist" == "This is the only allowable way for a woman to be portrayed and anything less is regressive" == "This is a protest against patriarchal shitlords"

>>81716659
Why reply to me? I don't need the (You)'s. I'm just stating my observations on the influx of redditors these past few years who are trying to fit in by using buzzwords (and in turn making buzzword a buzzword).

>>81716549
>ignores all arguments i have made
>hes the one screaming about buzzwords

but seriously question anon, why so mad?

>>81716659
Disney shill in tears. Kek. Name 3 brave women you failed the last time try again

>>81716657
well the post sounded retarded so i guess it was you.

>>81716264
When does she use martial arts against men who know it?
The Rebel soldiers that break her out?
The Stormtroopers who she beats with a WEAPON in close quarters when they were clearly primed for a ranged encounter?

She gets into a physical fist fight twice and she wins the first based on surprise and the second based on surprise and a difference of situational preparedness.

>>81716291
>Whites curbstomp every other race
I wasn't denying that but the argument was based on the physical capabilities of a single character.
Whites succeeded in history largely due to technological achievements in both warfare machinery as well as military command structure. But physically, both Africans and Asians beat them out in strength and skill historically.

This is why whites used blacks for slavery (superior strength) and often adopted asian technologies for martial arts to develop their own military disciplines

>>81716746
>buzzwords
>u mad
Disney please. I've been on this shithole too long. You don't have the trolling ability or shitposting experience to make me mad

>>81716685
this si what i have been saying. who gives a fuck whether the lead is male or female, most important thing is a good character.

>>81716637
>I'm adjusting the winning conditions
>So now you lost, take your L

You got proven wrong first, take your L
>>81716264
Also, yes, Rey is a mary sue, we've been over this, it's her biggest fault in character development

>>81716346
Okay, so how is this any less realistic than
>>81715955

They are both unrealistic scenarios. My question is why is the former unacceptable but the latter somehow okay?

>>81716723
because you were replying to me and someone else and you keep repeating yourself like an annoying song. if you dont want sarcastic replies dont make dumb posts. simple really.

>>81716678
You mean he is lucky as fuck. Vader had him bang to rights and he had no way to survive. Han's change of heart is the only reason he made it.

Compare that to Rey beating the fuck out of anything in her path. If anything she should be training Luke

>>81716722
Explain to me step-by-step how Rey portrays this feminist propaganda you villify so much.
I assure you you are wrong.

>>81716767
Lyudmila Pavlichenko
Boudicca
Tammy Duckworth

>>81716767
i did name 3 brave women you just cant handle the truth. you have yet to name 3 brave men although i am not the one arguing that brave men dont exist.

also
>disney shill
you have to be over 12 to post here

>>81716793
i'm OP and left after the 2nd post, but i'm glad i'm in the majority here.

The battle scene with Rey and Kylo was the equivalent of a pre-pubescent girl winning a fight with an experienced 28 year old Navy Seal, that is 2 feet taller than her, and 40kg of muscle heavier than her.

>>81716823
oh i see you really are an incel whos annoyed hes getting no pussy. understood bro. raging on 4chan isnt gonna help you meet girls tho.

>>81716843
No adjustment necessary. You lost bud. Couldn't successfully name 3 brave women and started screeching like a spastic when the list of Medal of Honor winners went up you disrespectful fuck. Now take your L like a man and stop squirming

>>81716917
>Literally who
>biggest loser, might as well drop it
>literally who

brb, gonna read up on them and btfo you.

>>81716935
they werent 3 bravel women. they were pussies. one of the fucked up so badly she cost her side a massive loss against an overwhelming underdog

>>81716910
I'm against these reject /pol/sters but Rey was unabashadly more poorly written than Luke.

Where you had Luke, Kenobi AND Han in the previous trilogy who each got strengths and weaknesses (pilot ability, force-acquaintance, galactic experience), Rey picks up on all three in the course of the one movie, two she has inexplicably and the galactic experience that Han Solo basically hands off to her fullstop

>show about a bunch of faggots using space magic to fuck with people
>NOOOOO HOW CAN WOMEN FIGHT AGAINST MEN REREEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Every fucking time. And adding to the fact that they already had female jedi for years jesus.

I see like only /a/ is free of /pol/ shitposting since no one complained about too many lead female roles they only fapping.

>>81716956
>i'm OP and left after the 2nd post, but i'm glad i'm in the majority here.
you clearly havent read the whole thread anon. also i wasnt arguing about rey, your op was general which i was arguing against. star wars is cancer.

>>81716194
White's are the swiss army knife of humans. We're not the best at one particular thing, but we are above average at everything. We are also the best looking people, which is why we are in media. Also, asians in a movie outside of asia = low box office turnout.

>>81716917
Boudica was battered by a force a tenth of her size had her followers butchered and the survivors raped and sold into slavery.

>>81717000
You said brave, not successful.

Men are obviously better at waging war and engaging in physical combat, that's obvious to anyone who looks at the data

>>81716891
>and you keep repeating yourself like an annoying song
I've made two posts ITT (three now). And I'm sorry the other anons have offended you to the point where you think the world is against you. Maybe reddit would suit your style of posting. I hear everyone is friendlier over there.

>>81716975
>literally cannot stop spewing buzzwords
It's kind of cute. Stick around after your job ends you might do ok here

>>81716574
>unrealistic because it has a female lead

That's not the argument, though.
The argument is that this particular female lead is unrealistic.
And your argument that fantasy can't have standards because it's fantasy is also wrong. For example, certain laws of space and time still apply. Most of the rules about normal human interactions still hold as well.

Also, way to put forth actual arguments while pretending you "don't care".
In case you're lost, this is what you implied
>this is an artistically valid and consistent movie.
>female leads aren't unrealistic.
>there is nothing wrong with this particular female lead

truth is, you do care.
more than that, you care enough to be sitting here reading this thread still.

>>81717001
>they werent 3 bravel women. they were pussies.
thats some projection there anon. if they wernt brave then they would have been forgotten. man thanks for the laugh tho never seen a fedora be this mad outside pol!

>>81716905
So then why can't Rey beating Kylo be chocked up to luck? In fact the only reason why she did in the end was because she relied on the Force, the same reason why Luke was able to make the shot for the Death Star.

>>81716592
>slurs can't be buzzwords

The thing about slurs, anon, is that they are words.

Words that can have a certain, topical
>buzz
To them

>>81716917
>Tammy Duckworth
how is this tub of lard a hero?

If you want to play the game, dont lower the criteria so it fits your agenda.

>>81717029
you're not even the swiss army knife.
There's a huge variety in capability among various sub-groups of whites
The brits are barely capable of lifting a single log of wood at their best but their organization and social structure allowed for incredibly team work.

Mediterraneans and Russians are disproportionately physically strong.

Germanic tribes are more akin to the swiss-army knife you describe, though are physically closer to Brits.

Nords are a bit physically stronger and have a natural toughness to them (at least they used to, Iceland still does).

>>81713693
Because forced diversity has always been a thing, even all the way back into the 70s.
Though in the 70s it was more White guy + Tanned Hispanic guy

>>81716917
Getting blown up by a fucking rocket doesn't take bravery you dipshit

>>81715532
>we
>you

If we as individuals are all responsible for what our ancestors do, then you must not be very pleased to know many african tribes enslaved each other and sold their enemies to white people quite freely.

>>81717032
Being a failure doesn't preclude you from being brave, Are purple heart vets not brave?

>>81714340

Jesus Christ I am pissing myself laughing at you

Imagine LITERALLY feeling this way lmao

>>81717066
>he still thinks if he says buzzwords it will cover up the fact hes been BTFO

ok child, ok.

>>81717071
nope, you didnt state that in the op
>Nobodys suspension of disbelief can cover a woman beating up a man. Its just ridiculous
personally i would have picked a more meatier woman, not a stick insect like daisy. but thats just me.
also im killing time until work starts, but believe what you want to. Ad hominens dont prove your proint right however.

>>81717081
>Navy
they have long been forgotten. But theres a reason theres a historical account of them isnt because of they're bravery.

they're just notable relevant to the rest of women of that time

>>81717098
Because it wasn't luck. She kicked the shit out of him.

This is why I called your statement a false equivalance. Rey curbstomped Kylo

>>81717122
>>81717032
Refer to my follow up post
>>81717042
I'm not saying there's no physical difference or temperament difference between men and women, but you asked for proof that women could be heroic and brave.

It's pretty obvious that, even outside of societal standards, men are superior in warfare and combat. But it's a bell curve, not a hard cut off. Learn your genetics

>>81717108
Learn2english

>>81717176
they wouldnt understand this anon, save your breath.
according to their retoric churchill isnt brave because hes dead now.

>>81717189
Hey idiot, you're not arguing with one, or the same person.

>>81717152
>He confuses bravery with toughness or physical strength

bravery is defined as capable of courageous behavior.

Courage is defined as doing something that is frightening to the actor. Piloting an attack helicopter in an active warzone should frighten most people who value their lives.

>>81717176
>getting your people massacred is brave
Anon think about what you're saying

>>81713693
d

>>81717194
>they have long been forgotten.
>but we still know about them that there is history on them


thanks for letting me know you are a retard anon.

>>81717189
>I-I-I win!!
Kek. You're kinda funny too. In a few years you might make a good troll. You allowed stay after the film comes out?

>>81717198
women are much much much less likely to be heroric, and when they are its to a significany lesser standard than men have been

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>>81716685

good on you bruv

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>>81713693
**I suction cup my mouth to her bare anus cavity, when suddenly**

*BBBRRAAAAAPPPPP*

**A transfer of her intestinal gas right into my mouth and down my throat**

*GULP*

**I try to pull my head away to gasp for air but she won't let me, she reaches behind her and forces the back of my head between her ass cheeks more**

*BRRRAAPP BRAAAPP BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPP PRRRRRRRTTTTTTTT*

**This definitely was more than just air being passed, I felt wet chunks blown in the back of my throat as she forcefully made me swallow them with my mouth still glued to her asshole**

*BRRAAAAAPPP PRRRRRRTTTTT HHUUUUUUPAAAAAAGHAUSHUFHSSGSD*

>"Oh yea baby you like that, don't you little fuck boi, huh? Whos your mommy? That's right, I'm your mommy, now it's time for baby fuck boi to get his protein in. Open wide"

**She said to me aggressively, as she forced another one out**

*BRRRPPPRRRRRRRRRRBBBRRAAAAAPPPTTTAAATTTTRRRRRPPPTTTT*

**What tasted like a mustard pudding was ejected out of her colon. I threw up in my mouth from the taste, but she kept my head and mouth firmly lodged between her ass cheeks so nothing left my mouth. There was so escaping this one**

>"P-PLEASE! R-RELE-EASE ME!"

**I said with my mouth full of shit**

**She turned around, gave me a look like in pic related. And simply shook her head "NO!"**

**Fearing for my life, I swallowed her bowel movement, and she finally released me from her anus**

**GASPING FOR AIR**

>"So hows that for eating ass?"

**She said in a smug and condescending way**

>>81717197
But this anon >>81716346 claimed that

>i-it doesn't matter that he was still throwing her into trees and shit and the choreography in his fight with rey didn't indicate he was held back by the injury

So did Kylo put up a fight or not? If it's the former then you're wrong. If it's the latter then it's because, as I mentioned, he was injured by Chewbacca's bowcaster

>>81717272
Again, you're confusing bravery with capability.

If anything it's the opposite: the more capable you are, the less reason you have to fear any given scenario and thus you don't have to be as brave to confront those scenarios.

>>81717240
>im not a samefag RRREEE

Actually i didnt think i was until you cried about that idiot :^)

>>81716871
Because shooting the target on the death star was never skill based you fucktard. Minute changes in the way he took the shot influenced whether it hit or not and he had no way to know what the effect was of any slight change in his positioning would be. He had to completely give up on attempting to control the shot and just let the force make all the 'decisions' he had no way of making for himself.

Meanwhile using the force and dueling are established skills that require training. She beat someone who should have been better than her which quantifies how good she is at those things.

This is really fucking obvious and I have trouble believing the fucktards who try to equate the two things because 'hurr neither are likely to happen so they're basically the same thing' legitimately don't see the distinction.

>>81717267
>he confuses being terrible with your job as bravery
That's your example? A terrible pilot who got BTFO by a fucking RPG

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>>81713693
Reystarwars sucked because of the plot. Rogue one was solid.

Also in terms of MUH DIVERSITY, Rogue One is diverse. Episode 7 is typical black and white combo.

>>81716207
>i quit when they were on that desert planet and she evaded and beat up 50 armed stormtroopers
Lmao wut, Jyn was with Cassian the whole time. In addition she wasn't "speshul" like Rey was, he was trained by one of the best Rebel commanders out there: Saw Gerrera. Which is repeatedly mentioned in the film. And is a fucking terrorist.

I'm far more triggered by how Donnie Yen can blind a helmet wearing stormtrooper with sand.

>>81717308
>he thinks ad hominens will cover up the fact hes crying

dude seriously you're embarassing yourself now.

>>81717325
Anon if the only way you feel like you can win this is to make me responsible for someone elses thoughts and words you need to rethink your position

>>81717267
thats it? thats the only example you can find. some women who flew a helicopter in the army.

i bet they didnt even send her to the most dangerous zones, due to her lack of prior experience

>>81717007
You have to understand their backstories

>Be Rey
>Stranded on planet for 20 years
>Guardian is a tech broker
>Has casual access to spaceships and tech
>Tons of free time to learn about all of this
>Has preemptive access to the Millenium Falcon
>It is empirically proved she has had time to research the ship (That ship is GARBAGE)
>This is why she knows more about compressor
>It is also empirically cannon that being force sensitive makes you a better pilot
>Her personality is just naturally goodhearted

Skip forward
>Force AWAKENS (title of movie)
>Probably is very strong with the force, more than is normal
>This just happens to be the case with a woman after having two trilogies with male leads
>Feminist propaganda
>Not just trying to put some fresh new directions on

Skip forward
>Kylo is mentally and physically heavily wounded
>Rey winning is just feminist propaganda
>Kylo is mentally about to implode, he just killed his father and his morals are telling him it's wrong
>Rey winning is just feminism incarnate
>Kylo beats his flesh wound from crossbow to feel the dark side, because he has no dark side that comes from within, meaning he is in a constant battle with himself
>Fuck womyn dude

>>81717310
citation needed.

>>81717343
Because your CAPABILITY has nothing to do with your BRAVERY.

How do you define the word Bravery, anon?

Just give me an operating definition so I know we're not trying to prove two different arguments here.

The majority of the brave people in the world die because the thing they confront is often dangerous to them. They fear that which is dangerous to them but they confront it anyways. That's the literal, dictionary definition of bravery.

>>81717384
Okay, then he was injured by Chewbacca's bowcaster. So Rey got lucky. Like how Luke got lucky.

>>81717375
>i must get in the last word! my mouse overlord is watching
I'm crying alright. With laughter. You're adorable. You legitimately want to ruin the entire thread rather than let any criticism of the film be discussed. You work hard anon I'll give you that

>>81717397
>women have only been allowed into the army recently
>even then they were barred from front line duty
>this is somehow womens fault

*tips fedora*

>>81717295
ask any millenial if they have even heard of them. when the current generation does not know even them by their names, then you can consider them to be forgotten

>>81717322
Thank you.

>>81717397
>Woman who flew a helicopter
>Woman who fought against invaders to her home (Boudica)
>Woman who confronted enemies on the field of battle, defending her home and allies as a sniper (Lyudmila Pavlichenko) (you may argue that snipers are the most cowardly type of soldier but it's more than not fighting altogether)

>>81717445
>I'm crying alright. With laughter.

cool story bro.

>>81717407
>piloting a helicopter into a rocket is brave
That woman fucked up anon. Fucking up isnt bravery

>>81717338
Why are you strawmanning my position solely based on the death star shot? It was obvious that the reason why he made the shot was because he relied on the Force. Rey also relied on the Force when she fought Kylo.

The unrealistic part was that Luke was somehow able to be one of the few surviving rebel pilots out of everyone else despite the fact that he had virtually no combat training. He was skilled enough to survive and outdog other trained military men even though he had no training or education.

If this was "realistic" then a random farm boy would have been one of the first to go. You can argue "it was the will of the Force for Luke to win" but then I can simply argue "it is the will of the Force for Rey to beat guys up".

They are both unrealistic scenarios. You can't complain about realism for one and then completely accept the other.

>>81717407
according to him you are only brave if you get a specific medal. anything else apparently is just lies.

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>shills trying to explain why a female action hero is believable.

Rey is a completly fucking retarded mary sue anyway.
What is the point on making a "kickass action girl" when she is supposed to be a force sensitive person.
She wouldn't need that.

>>81717490
Fucking up has nothing to do with whether you're brave or not.

Bravery is entirely determined by your willingness to confront that which frightens you, including the potential for harm (ie, entering a combat zone).

How do YOU even define bravery then?

>>81717410
Anon please. Rey was in no danger of death when Chewy showed up and she was aware he was in the area.

False.
Equivalance.

>>81717449
of course its their fault. if you get subjugated, or oppressed, its not the fault of the oppresor. its your fault because you let them.

never has there been, or will there be a group of men that get subjugated in the same way women let themselves be throughout history

>>81717459
>he has to shift the goalposts now that his argument has been debunked
>he still hasnt provided 3 names himself

kek that was too fucking easy, next time maybe you should try reddit.

>>81717488
Kek. Bye Disney it was fun

>>81717459
>History controlled and written by men features men and sweeps women under the rug
Really gets the ol' noggin' joggin.

If anything it's proof that men feel inferior to women feel the need to cut them down to make sure they're secure in their identity. Basically, men are fucking babies.

>>81717527
Not even that, according to him, you're only brave if you succeed at something.

Which makes no sense. If you were guaranteed to succeed, then there's no fear to be had and no strength of character needed to confront that challenge.

Like, pulling something from /a/, is Saitama from One Punch Man ever brave? Does any situation ever really demand that he pull all the resolve of his being to confront?

>>81717490
>being in a warzone is not bravery

spoken like a true oxygen thief.

>>81716910
>Explain to me step-by-step how Rey portrays this feminist propaganda you villify so much.

Really, I shouldn't have to, because I gave you evidence in the quoted post.
But, you can see it more clearly when you juxtapose her role to that of the past femlead, who was still strong, still female, but sensible.
>leah
demonstrated to be strong-willed and clever, is at a physical disadvantage to much larger male counterparts, but largely holds her own due to her plucky nature and previously mentioned cleverness.
look at how she subdues her male opponents, using stealth and pewpews.
>rey
literally wrestles a 7 foot tall sith lord's hand to the ground in a 1v1 round of fisticuffs because she's a strong independent woman.
everyone who isn't her is dumb.

she's a pretty shallow character, though to be honest, most of these folks are paper thin, in their acting and their stories.

>>81717537
>i'll argue semantics until he gets bored
Helicopter pilot is a cushy fucking number unless the pilot is legitimately incompetant and gets BTFO by a fucking rocket

>>81717554
omg you really ARE a beta

FUCKING KEK

*1000 fedora tips to you gentlesir*

>>81717554
Can't tell if this is b8 or youre genuinely this retarded.

>>81717526
>Luke was already a pilot.
>Hans saved his ass.

I don't even know how are you equating the 2 fucking things when everybody can see how bullshit that was.

Rey piloted the fucking falcon when she wasn't even a pilot AND beated a trained force user on a laser fight.

>>81717544
No, it isn't. All you did was try to prove that Rey beating Kylo is unrealistic. My point is that both instances are unrealistic, but OP can somehow only suspend disbelief for one of them. See >>81717526

>>81717554
why do you think men are so especial in comparison with women?

>>81717597
>fly bois are brave
Spoken like a true fucking cuck. Get in infantry and frontline you pussy

>>81717554
>never has there been, or will there be a group of men that get subjugated in the same way women let themselves be throughout history
>apparently black men are not men

right so not only are you a forever alone you dont even know basic history? maybe you should go away, read some books then try having a proper discussion. this is just embarassing you are literally mentally 5yrs old.

>>81717655
I've had that bit of the conversation with you already. Luke was dead. Vader had him.

>>81717025
>And adding to the fact that they already had female jedi for years jesus.

Most of these people are aware of that fact and yet still have a problem with Rey.
I wonder if there is something more to this?
Is there something different perhaps in Rey's character as opposed to the chicks in Clone Wars? Hmmm...

>>81717615
>asking him to define bravery, the crux of the argument and a clear point of contention, is 'arguing semantics'
Alright, so you're saying that being a pilot in that situation is not brave because there's very little danger to them.

Fair counter.

>>81717596
exactly. hes obviously never done anything of any use in his life. i feel bad for the soldiers dying for his useless ass.

>>81717676
Kek niggers BTFO. absolute pussies

>>81717676
i meant by women

>>81717596
>complete failures are so brave you guise
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