This was the last time they spoke as friends. Anakin is standing

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>>81704580
its like fine pottery

>>81704731
COCAIN A HELLUVA DRUG

>>81704731
hopefully that worked

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based

>>81704580

Rewatching Attack of the Clones right now, why is this considered a bad movie again?
Its a solid action/mystery/love story

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>>81704580
Apologize

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>>81705287
Episode 2 is a space kino
Critics who dismiss Star Wars as merely a popcorn movie

are missing the point. Star Wars: Attack of the Clones

might be the most spectacularly symbolic film since

Bladerunner. Before you dismiss my article as a pathetic

attempt to jazz up the sequel to the mediocre Phantom

Menace, think about the film. When Count Dooku was

flying to the hangar on his swoop bike, think about how

similar the scene was to classic shots of a witch flying

on a broom. In Empire, when Luke uses the Force to pull

his lightsaber from the ice, think about how that

parallels the moment when King Arthur pulls the sword

from the stone. These are exactly the kinds of scenes

that are meant to evoke an unconscious impact on people

who watch the films, and these shots should be seen as

works of art that deserve our attention.

The sheer depth of AotC is revealed when Queen Jamillia

tells Padme and her advisors that "The day we stop

believing in democracy is the day we lose it." This line

has been called many things, few of them flattering.

Critics who attack this line are only demonstrating

their own moronic inability to look beyond the surface

of the film. When the average person sees a Star Wars

film, he is trying to turn off his brain. This is

something that many people find enjoyable. When people

turn their brains back on after the movie, they find

that there are many aspects of the Star Wars films that

are not present in any other cinematic piece.

the reputation of the prequels were ruined because (((they))) couldn't stand the idea of someone finding success outside of the hollywood system

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>>81705287
The point of Queen Jamillia's line is that it ties

everything together. Think about how the movie

proceeded. Remember when Yoda told Obi-Wan that

"[arrogance is] a flaw more and more common among Jedi?.

Even the older, more experienced Jedi?" Yoda was clearly

referring to Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, and himself at the

same time. Now recall Yoda's options at the end of the

movie. Yoda sacrificed hundreds, perhaps thousands of

clone soldiers in order to save twenty Jedi. He decided

that those twenty Jedi were more important than the

lives of the nameless soldiers he was ordering to their

deaths. This is clearly an undemocratic decision, and

perhaps a poor moral decision by Yoda. It clearly hurt

far more beings than it helped. The point then becomes:

Yoda's belief that the Jedi were more important than the

clone soldiers stemmed from his arrogance, and that Yoda

and the Jedi had stopped believing in democracy. That is

why the Old Republic failed. Even the Jedi had stopped

believing in its ideals. Now we can appreciate the depth

of the movie, both within and without the Star Wars

universe.

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>>81705287
I realize that the idea above will be unpopular with

many people. After all, Yoda can't be wrong. These

people are nearly as bad as the movie critics who

completely missed this idea. First of all, the clones

were created to fight and die, but at the same time Lama

Su stresses that clones are different from battle

droids. Clones can think. This is meant to get the

audience to question what it is to be human, much like

Data gets us to ask the same question in Star Trek. If

the clones are to be considered human, then Yoda's

decision can be viewed as morally flawed. If Yoda's

decision was the wrong one, what does this do to the

rest of Star Wars? If you can see all of the moral

issues that this brings up during the original trilogy,

you are beginning to see how AotC is meant to be read.

AotC is meant to be a profoundly disturbing film. We

went through the entire original trilogy knowing the

difference between good and evil. Now we see that all of

those distinctions that we made were far more blurred

than they at first appeared. AotC stands triumphantly on

the surface; but after we are willing to commit

ourselves to looking deeper at it, we can find a far

more complete film. But the symbolism of in AotC is not

limited to the story line, it also applies to

characters.

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>>81705287
Notice the use of falling as a motif in AotC and in many

of the other films. Both Anakin and Obi Wan are seen

falling in a number of shots. For instance, during the

speeder chase, Anakin deliberately jumps from his

vehicle onto Zam Wessel's. Padmé falls a couple of times

in the Droid Foundry on Geonosis. Note the persistent

uses of chasms and other drops throughout all of the

films, like the one in the first Death Star. In another

pivotal scene from AotC, Anakin quite literally falls

out of heaven, thus connecting him with any number of

mythological heroes and villains. When he crouches atop

the cliff while searching for his mother, Anakin is

silhouetted against the stars behind him. These stars

can be seen as metaphors for a number of people and

ideals inside and outside of the Star Wars universe. For

instance, stars can be viewed as the souls of the dead,

watching over the affairs of people below. Of course

under this interpretation, one of the stars must have

been Qui-Gon, who was heard ordering Anakin to stop when

he was slaughtering the Tusken Raiders. Also note that

while Anakin was searching for his mother, the twin suns

of Tatooine gradually set. By the time he finally found

the Tusken camp, it was in the dead of night. These suns

can be seen as setting on many things: Anakin's life as

a Jedi; the Republic; the Jedi Order; the old ways of

life; even the Sith, who are wiped out because of

Anakin's actions in Episode VI. When Anakin returns with

his mother's body, he has become a different person. It

is a new day, and a new era for the Galaxy.

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>>81705287
Remember the conversation during which Anakin tells

Padme how he murdered the Tuskens? Remember how Padme

never moved from her position until the very end of the

scene, even though she probably should have moved

towards Anakin during the course of the conversation? To

emphasize her lack of motion, she even rocks back and

forth while standing in place. This is to show that she

is anchoring Anakin to the light, which is positioned

behind her in that set of shots. Thus, while Anakin is

adrift and searching for direction, Padme must remain

static in order to remain consistent to the symbolism of

the scene. Only when Anakin returns to her (and, by

extension, the light) does she move to comfort him. This

theme of Padme serving as a solid place for Anakin to

attach himself to is further stressed by the stylized

anchor that she wears on her breast during this

sequence.

My point is this: Star Wars is meant to be seen on the

surface as a popcorn thriller. It is meant to be enjoyed

by all people. When critics and other know-nothings on

the street dismiss it as shallow and mindless, they are

only demonstrating their own ignorance and inability to

understand something that is definitely NOT mindless.
Think about how stupid people sound when they say that
Lord of the Flies and The Grapes of Wrath are weak books

because the stories they tell are strained. AotC might
not be quite as strong on the surface as, say, A
Beautiful Mind or Saving Private Ryan (Despite what most
critics are saying, it is stronger than Spiderman.), but
it has a hell of a lot more depth in it than any of
those other films. Someone once criticized Star Wars as
being a kid film, and so the cult of "Star Wars is for
dummies" began. People began to repeat this idea, and
soon everyone stopped thinking when they watched Star
Wars films. These idiots are not thinking for
themselves, and so they cannot understand how flawed
their original idea was.

>>81704580
The CGI was pretty bad and over used in place where practical effects would have worked better and the acting and writing of Anakin was pretty bad for the most part. Episode 3 is also arguably the best in the prequels.

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>>81705287
Next time you watch AotC, start noticing these themes

that run throughout the story. Think about how Mace

Windu is a character foil of Anakin. Think about how

Jango and Boba Fett can be seen as foils for Han Solo.

Try and understand how the themes of greed and lusts for

power can be plainly viewed throughout the Star Wars

saga. Think about the moral dilemmas that the characters

face. Think about how the Star Wars saga parallels

mythology, and how that adds to the film. I'm not

telling you not to enjoy the movie. I want people to

enjoy the movie, but I also want them to appreciate that

Star Wars is not merely an idiot's way of forgetting

real-life problems for a couple hours. Watch AotC as a

fun movie, but also heed Yoda's advice to "clear your

mind," and understand that the movie is about more than

fun. It is also a lens through which we can examine

ourselves. In short, watch AotC as you would read a good

novel. Have fun, but make connections when they appear.

I'm sure that you will find far more in the film than I

was able to elaborate on, and when you find it,

appreciate it, and understand how AotC is a cinematic

masterpiece.

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>>81705322
Forgive me George, at least I see that you were right.

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