Why did some critics pretend this wasn't just a pointless

Like pinecone himself amirite?

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>>81529448
movies you forgot existed for 500 please

>>81529448
I think it's enjoyable.

The movie is Kino. PTA and Owen Wilson team up AT LAST.

>>81529448
Why do plebs think anyone wants to know their opinions?

>>81529621
God I fucking hate symbolism

>>81530343
>calling in-your-face referrences "symbolism"

god, I hate plebs

Grade A noir kino. Very good adaptation of a very convoluted novel. Soundtrack is phenomenal as well.

>>81529448
It's like half an hour too long, but I liked it a lot

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>tfw no sortliège gf

I thought it was pretty funny

>>81529448
I'll never understand why embryos use the term pointless when discussing film. Every single film is pointless when you think about it.

>>81532635
this. it's pretty great if you can pick up on the humor.

Did they make it?

>>81529448
i wanted to like this piece of shit so damn much

completely unwatchable

> funny
there isn't a damn laugh in it

Solid 9/10 you can't go wrong with Joaquim + PTA

Was the couch scene kino?
What would you have done during that scene?

>>81533626
why did you wanted to like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_oUZvvdmw how is this shit not funny?

One of my favorite movies. Pure comfy-kino personally.

>post modern narrative done right
>10/10 perfomances
>highest rewatchability ever
Maybe you're just a pleb

tfw no joanna newsom gf

PTA still has goodwill leftover from There Will Be Blood. I wanted to see Inherent Vice, but after the bad word of mouth and the messiness of The Master, I skipped it.

That's two duds in a row. Can PTA be saved?

>>81534231
Considering he has never made a bad movie and his last two movies are both in his top 3 best movies and in the top 10 of the 2010s, I'd say he'll be fine

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Are we all excited for PTA's next film about an english 50's fashion designer commissioned by royalty? It stars Daniel day lewis and is currently filming.

>>81534370

>that sure to be immaculate costume design
>first PTA narrative outside of America
>DDL/PTA teaming back up
>Jonny back on the strings
>PTA as DP

its gonna be fucking glorious

>>81534370
Do we know the title?

>>81534420
I read a rumor about it on some blog nut I forget what it said, I remember it sounding really basic like Ghost Thread or something akin to that.

>>81534420

the working title is "phantom thread"

http://cigsandredvines.blogspot.com/2017/01/new-pta-film-shooting-under-working.html

>>81534285
>The Master
>top anything

lol let's make a character study with a boring main character and zero conflict.

The acting was phenomenal, but the story was shit

i wasnt sure how i felt about it after the first time i watched it, but ive watched it twice since and it gets better each time.

definitely the most dense film of his but thats more pynchons influence than anything else, its super comfy and rewatchable.

that warner brothers put it out and marketed it as a broad ensemble comedy is funnier than the film itself but the movie's funny too

>>81534370
I'm going to go to ALL capeshits this year so I can drag my normie friends to this movie. Don't thank me, martyrdom is a reward on itself

>>81534501
>implying films need plot to matter

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>>81534501
>boring
>story

For fans of Inherent Vice I would recommend watching The Long Goodbye, there is a lot taken from this movie.

>>81534537

Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood didn't really have plots, but they did have interesting characters and conflicts. The Master's main character is not interesting; we find out everything there is to know about him at the very beginning of the movie. He joins a faux-Scientology group, despite not believing in a thing the cult leader says. Then he leaves that group.

He doesn't do anything interesting. He doesn't grow as a character. Nothing interesting is revealed about him. He is the same at the beginning as he was at the end. His outbursts grew tiresome.

Now, if the movie was about Phillip Seymour Hoffman's character, it could have been good. But it wasn't.

>>81533626
>there isn't a damn laugh in it

if you didn't laugh when he does the little kung-fu move after getting hit on the head then you're dead inside

>>81534626
>He doesn't grow as a character.

did we watched the same movie? holy shit. are you the same guy shitting on inherent vice? if yes then you're just retarded

>>81534707

I didn't see Inherent Vice. I saw the boring shitshow that was The Master.

>>81530343
>i hate visual references in a visual medium

you must hate film. thank god there's still television for you cretins.

>>81534747
>didn't see Inherent Vice
What a pleb.

>>81534626
>He doesn't grow as a character
But that's wrong. When Freddie joins the cult it seems they are about to transform him and Dodd is changing too. Freddie gets to believe in the cult, he gets to see Amy Addams eyes black. Dodd is intoxicated, literally and figuratively by the wild, untamable personality of Freddie (this is why Amy Addams has to jack him off, to get him to calm down and go back to charismatic but ever distant cult leader). He changes when he joins and the cult changes with him, (Dodd also writes a second book inspired on his relationship with Freddie but Laura Dern says it's not coherent with the first one).

But in the end, Freddie can't be domesticated. When things get real, he runs. And now the bullshit in this cult is the realest thing for him, so he runs again. Goes back to the places that really matter to him as a new man, calmed down and ready to face his demons. Without him the cult grows bigger than ever as we see in the last confrontation (compare it to the first, A.R.T.), because Amy Addams has managed to get Dodd to focus on the cause again. They both change when they are together, but they revert to their original ways when they are apart

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Well, sweetpops, what'll it be?

>>81534626
>Boogie Nights and There Will Be Blood didn't really have plots

what the fuck are you even talking about? do you even know what a plot is? "dude has a big dick -> gets recruited into porn -> becomes rich and famous -> gets into drugs -> drugs ruin his career -> becomes a desperate man-whore -> friends rescue him". this is the extremely traditional plot of boogie nights, interwoven with a bunch of sub-plots. that's all a plot is, a sequence of linked events.

how are you going to have a conversation when you open your posts with bizarre shit like that? "uh, sergeant pepper doesn't really have sounds..."

>>81535057
He just doesnt know what's talking about

>>81534752
Not him but symbolism is fine when it's not heavyhanded like Synecdoche was

>>81535057
The fuck do you call the "a day in the life of" films then, because they sure as fuck don't count as having a proper plot.

HEY YOU

>>81534201
Lmao what a fucking pleb waterstone is shit

Film sucks

>>81534285
You have shit taste

Inherent Vice is great, but you've got to be in the right mood.

I recommend watching it late at night when it's quiet

>>81535147

Slice of life? I think of Margot at the Wedding as example.

>>81535282
>>81535304
There is a new Thor movie coming out, you should check it out!

>>81535147
>>81535386

Not to say Margot at the Wedding has no plot it's just the plot is sorta...bland? Idk how to describe that kind of film.

>>81532688
"Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that they feel their time wasn't wasted." -- Vonnegut

The opposite of this is the definition of pointless

>>81535147
Plot is what's going on-screen.

Story is more of the overarching idea. I think you mean to say the story was sparse.

>>81535147
well do they have a sequence of linked events? then it's a plot. that's what a plot is. a plotless film would be just a sequence of images without a causal link, like baraka or something.

>>81535101
the point is that no one here seems to know what "symbolism" even is, just like they struggle with the word "plot".

when you watch a movie, it's already symbolic. what's actually in front of you is a picture of an actor named bruce willis with red goop on his bare feet but what you think is "ow, john mcclane must be really hurting". you might go further and say something like "john mcclane represents the working class" or whatever but you're engaging with the movie on a symbolic level no matter what. you've been doing it since you were a small child.

so what draws people's ire is not "symbolism" at all. it's the obviousness of the visual reference, like somehow it's upsetting ti be aware that the movie is a movie, that the image is constructed and not "natural". people are weird about movies these days.

I think people simultaneously think they're not supposed to "get" an obvious visual reference, while at the same time they do get it. They want to feel so smart about themselves that not only do they get the visual metaphor, but they denounce it as cheap and easy. As if films are only good when they're "hard" and you need to watch a Youtube video for someone to point out everything.

>>81536614
It's normal not to be impressed by something you've seen hundreds of times before.

>>81536714
the point is to be literate, not "impressed". if you treat watching movies like a game where people try to impress you and you win by refusing to be impressed then of course you're not going to appreciate anything.

>>81536714
Which part? Hippies eating pizza in the 70s? You've seen that before?

Yes I know you mean Coy = Jesus, but the scene isn't inflated or dwelled on. It's a couple seconds, looks cool and novel, edited in smoothly, and adds some context to Coy's character (as the first time you're watching you might get lost on who the character is or what he does).

This isn't Superman standing in front of a stained glass of Jesus.

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A lot of scenes are just two people exchanging details, but I dunno I like it.