Why doesn't the West ever put artistic effort into their

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>>81424496

>>81424520
Show me a moving scene as an example not static backgrounds

>>81424496
because the gooks have nothing else going for them expect anime

>>81424496
i thought japs sent their stuff over to korea to draw?

>>81424496
what mongorian shadow puppet play?

>>81424496
Because cartoons are for undeveloped minds.

Animation is targeted at children in the west and children don't give a shit about animation quality. Frozen had dull, generic 3D animation and made an ungodly amount of money.6

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>>81424496
>artistic effort
>anime
Pick one.

Why don't you ask on /co/? Are you scared of redwood, /v/edditor?

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>>81424496
because the west doesn't see animation as a form of art, they see it as a way of making money off of kids.

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>>81424496
The West is busy making real movies.

show me a single well animated anime that can compare to disney or looney tunes of the 20th century

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>>81425476

>>81425599
What the fuck did I just watch?

>>81424496
Because the current trends at Cal Arts have ruined western animation.

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>>81425622
it was anime kino

>>81425599
>deleted

FUCKING MODS REEEEEE

As someone who watched about 600 shows by now and really read into japanese animation I can safely say that they got NOTHING on masterpieces like Disney or Looney Tunes in terms of sheer animation quality.

That said, japanese studios like Ghibli do tend to be willing to take more risks and use new techniques, making them somewhat more fresh and innovative. This of course doesn't count for your generic SoL moeblob shitfest.

>>81425476
What was wrong with 12 Angry men?

>>81425710
Nothing, the whole image is bait.

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>>81425480
Bump caleb

>>81424496
What anime?

>>81424496
Because the west still, and always has, mostly seen cartoons and animation as for children. Every time someone tries to make a slightly more than PG rated, non forced comedy cartoon, parents take their kids to see it and throw fits and complain about it.

>>81425697
>looney tunes
>quality

really flips your pages

>>81424496
Because nips care more about animation than live action while the west is the opposite.

>>81425528
like capeshit and terrible star wars remakes?

>>81425768
Goes to show how little you actually know about animation. Chuck Jones is a genius.

They are more creative, and unless you have Disney money japanese techniques work better than western

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>>81425807
no like real cinema and art

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>when this came out, people complained that it wasn't friendly enough for kids

>>81424496
easterners = takes pride in their work, not in it for the retirement
westerners= cheap, easy and lazy work and looks forward to a happy retirement

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The word sees a lot of misuse these days but you guys really are a bunch of ignorant weebs.

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>>81425490
And the east sees it as a way to make money off men who think like kids

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>>81425877
but then again you don't actually watch real cinema just capeshit and flavor of the month meme shows so you wouldn't understand :^)

The boondocks was an anime looking show made by americans and it constantly ran into budget problems and deadline problems. Too expensive.

Then metalocalypse, that heavy metal cartoon on adult swin cartoon network, also had a really good amount of detail and good animation and it was cancelled due to budget problems.

Spawns award winning hbo cartoon show (which had quality closed to anime )
Was cancelled due to.... yep, budget issues...

Seems like it is too expensive or too hard to create great quality cartoon except if disney is making it

>when a show for stoners on at 2am has better animation than any anime in existence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEQUxFrPOI

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>>81424496
here ya go OP, made this webm special, just for you

>>81425965
Anime exists because nips tried to find a way to replicate Disney cheaply

Western cartoons are either shit, ungodly expensive, or very limited in artstyle

>>81425622
Me Me Me, an animation about the downfalls of otaku culture and hikikomori ways

>>81424496
What is OP from?

>>81425736

Violet Evergarden

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>implying

Go back to your containment board

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>>81424496
>>81426018

>>81426019
Nips were animating long before Disney.

>>81426018
>>81426167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKsTNv2ecs
Superior Nippon animation and capekino coming right through

>>81425798
Source?

>>81426177
'no'

>>81424496
They abandoned it after Princess and the Frog in favour of this ugly 3d shit. Considering how financially successful the 3D films have been in comparison, its unlikely they will return to 2D.

>>81426107
Thanks, famillia

>>81424496
making art vs making money

is outstanding that hollywood flicks have any artistic value at all, since they're all directed by a comitee of jews, and approved by a group of the most pleb audience possible

>>81425554
goddamn dem titties are huuuuge

>>81426394
Anime is as commercialized as Hollywood if not more.
> censored nudity so people will buy BDs
>manga, light novel, Mobile games based on anime
>derivative garbage produced all the time
Something like Samurai Jack shits on nearly all anime shows

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>>81426599
>Samurai Jack
That's an odd one to name, considering that it's the same flat, computer-animated style that is current in anime.

https://youtu.be/AdhXqO-J-ZI

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>>81425413
>mong
Technically the Mongolian element is both Asian and Slavic. It's important to remember that the Japanese are essentially Manchurian (blood type A, not AB). The Mongols never had an interest in art, whereas the Manchurians were different.
>History 101

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>Manchurian
>Mongol

>Manchurian
>Mongol
Now everyone gets it.

>>81426091
the latest croc of shit from kyoanus

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Hideaki Anno is a God among nips.

>>81424496
A good 99% of Japanese animation is made in South Korea by literal slaves and with next to zero budget.

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>>81424496
They waste a lot of the money in the voice actors wich for some reason need to be famous

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>>81425539
Redline

>>81427169
>tfw you liked kyoani until you watched over 6 of their shows and realize how samey all their shows are
The Disappearance of Haruhi is still great though

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>>81426599
Samurai Jack is ugly flash garbage

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>>81424496
Honestly outside of a few exceptions anime is heavily eclipsed in terms of animation.

There seems to be a lot of confusion from weeaboos that if the animated feature isn't for some reason trying to emulate real life (boring) with it's static art (which isn't animation) that somehow it's of lesser quality.

Putting aside the fact that most of the supposed "good" animation is centered around boring ideas (muh power levels, muh lasers), a lot of it is rotoscoped to some degree and then beyond that it's not generally animated for each frame, but rather on every other frame. A lot of the background work does make up for that in terms of overall visual richness but mostly anime tends to be boring in terms of the actual animation.

I'm going to use a bit of an unfair example, but webm related is something that anime can -rarely- achieve on a level of pure animation quality and creativity.

>>81427370
Is there more? Whats this from?

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No passion, western animators are just in it for a paycheck.

>>81427528
A short that aired on AS called scavengers.

>>81427551
Yup, anime creators are so passionate that all you can show are the same few gifs every time and most of them are from shows from the 80s and 90s. What a great artistic medium.

Oh, and this is hardly impressive if you compare it to Disney.

>>81427551
>90% of shot is static
>animation still manages to be choppy

but hey at least you have >muh details even though those aren't fucking animation you dumb autist

>>81427621
>all you can show are the same few gifs every time and most of them are from shows from the 80s and 90s

>Oh, and this is hardly impressive if you compare it to Disney.

When was the last time Disney released a non CG movie again?

>>81427054
its a meme, you dip

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>>81425554
Kizumonogatari's animations were great

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>>81424496
Uhmm, excuse me?

>>81427658
It's irrelevant. Disney's 3d films are still good. You 2d autists are completely retarded.
>muh pure 2d
Meanwhile anime looks like barely moving shit with some atrocious attempts at introducing 3d.

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>>81427748
>Disney's 3d films are still good

The heads of companies in Japan tend to be people who started working for it and earned their way up.

In the West it's literally nepotism and rich business people who only care about squeezing pennies.

>>81427812
And they still produce better and more mature shows than Japanese manchildren. Really makes you think.

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>>81424496
>budget
jap animators are pretty much slaves so after awhile they get better and still cheap as hell

>>81427551
what is this from?

>>81427882
patlabor 2

>>81427852
Not really imo, I can only name a handful of decent western cartoons (Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Rick and Morty) but there are way more anime out there that are just as decent or even better:
-PSG
-TTGL
-Ping Pong
-Madoka
-NGE
-Gunbuster
-FLCL
-Steins;Gate
-Bakemonogatari
-Code Geass
-Space Dandy

>>81427852

I have never seen a western animated film that's better than perfect Blue.

I've also never seen a western cartoon that's better than Kaiba.

>>81427908
>Steven Universe
what?? This sucks!

>>81427441
>More frames per second therefore it's betterer!

No. Even Thief and the Cobbler displays the biggest recurrent issue with Western animation, which is weak fundamental knowledge of draftsmanship beyond making a simplified character design move. The Japanese, Chinese and Koreans invest much more time and effort into things like perspective, colour theory, etc.

If you want to know what all anime would look like on a Western budget, go watch Akira.

>>81427934
there are some really bad episodes but it has its moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ussqi3nagrQ

why don't you fuck off back to /jp/

>>81427908
>Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Rick and Morty
wew you must be trolling lad

>>81427951
I am not, they all have their own weaknesses but are alright

>>81427915
You probably haven't seen many Western animated films in the first place. Films like Perfect Blue are exceptions, majority of anime is the same boring garbage.
Of course the West also produces mature animated films, for example Waltz with Bashir or Persepolis.

>>81424496
boy memes girl

>>81425967
Jesus Christ this can't possibly be the final cut can it? It doesn't even remotely look like he's actually hitting anyone, there's like a whole foot of distance between his attacks and the soldiers.

>>81427942
Nah, no bueno.

I WANT WEEBS TO WALK INTO THE OCEAN

ITT : Reddit everywhere

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Reminder the rise of /v/edditors coming over to /tv/ as a result of Bane memes has led to a shift in taste on /tv/

99% of the anime threads here are made by /v/edditors who only watch LE EPIC MANIME shonen trash and are too scared to post on /a/ because no one wants to talk about the same 5 old classic anime that only entry level newfaggots know about. Then they cry about /a/ having shit taste and proceed to buy their next avengers movie ticket.

/a/ has actually done a fantastic job at keeping out you /v/eddit scum and so all you faggots come crying here because no one wanted to accommodate your newfaggotry.

Also you all treat /tv/ as a place to ask for recommendations when >>>/wsr/ was made to deal with garbage threads like these that aren't actually discussing anything. This thread should be deleted but since /tv/ mods are garbage it won't be.

I want an anime to top Rick and Morty and funniness and no shits given attitude. So far only One Punch came close. Usually anime ends up being too imotional with either tearjekring crap or have fights that are just too long and don't even make sense.

>>81427980

yeah well the fucking good animated films in the west are exceptions too so I don't know what you're talking about.

Kubrick isn't the median for film quality.

>>81428075
Only 80s and early 90s anime is good. Today's crap just doesn't measure up. And I hate all the harem shit.

>>81428075
Haruhi

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>>81428065
/a/ has shit taste

>>81428075
>likes OPM
>doesn't like melodrama and drawn-out fights
???

>>81428078
Both are bad, that's my point. I do tho k that western cartoons are more mature but they all suffer from being adult comedies. The West is afraid of doing something more serious. Anime on the other hand is extremely childish and nearly all the characters are teenagers. Both industries are rather shitty.

>>81428132
>using a bait image to prove your point

>>81428065
>90% of all /a/ threads are waifus and moe
>b- but they have good taste guise

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>>81428123
"Kyon, your typical high school student, has long given up his belief in the supernatural. However, upon meeting Haruhi Suzumiya, he quickly finds out that it is the supernatural that she is interested in—aliens, time travelers, and espers among other things. When Haruhi laments about the lack of intriguing clubs around school, Kyon inspires Haruhi to form her own club. As a result, the SOS Brigade is formed, a club which specializes in all that is the supernatural."

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>>81428132
All this shows are reddit

>>81428148
OPM doesn't have those. All of that is kept to a minimum. What's more, the series makes fun of them.

>>81428075
Mob Psycho 100, it's from the same guy as OPM except the tones are much more accentuated

However, I can tell you are easily triggered by the classic anime exaggeration-to-be-funny style (as am I), so you might not like it

>>81428200
>What's more, the series makes fun of them.
For the first half, yeah. Then it becomes the generic superhero crap that it's supposed to be a parody of.

>>81428180
Woah so this is the power of the artistic not for kids anime medium.

>>81424496
I wonder if Disney will ever go back to 2D animation.

>>81428282
only for some special anniversary movie maybe

>>81428282
almost certainly not
most of the people who worked on the 2D movies have probably left

>>81427395
that was all done by one person

>>81424496
all the money in the united states can't buy a few thousands years worth of skill and culture (europe / asia)

Much less talent.

>>81428075
Fooli cooli is what u want

>>81425476
Bottom left image has 0 qt. Bottom right has 2 qt.
Check and mate, atheists!

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>>81427908
All of these anime are fucking trash nigger.

>>81427551
>1 movement is reused 2 times.
>1 movement is reused 4 times.

All during a 5 seconds segment

MUH SUPERIORU JAPANESU ANIMATIONU

>>81425710
Nothing, except the fact that it's entry level and therefore the token old movie for plebs why pretend to be patrician.

>>81428865
Why do you say stuff like that? You obviously didn't even watch them

You weebs are all delusional. Westerners actually practice animation, not storytelling by slideshow. Of course those nips can animate robots with 1000 little details if it's only 4 frames.

>>81427748
this thread is about 2D animation so your post is irrelevant, mong

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Euro and Jap animation is kino

americuck animation is trash

>>81429010
That's simply not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATAEbwwjZ0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6V7BO-PALY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ZknV1JaSI

>>81425476
Apples to oranges

>>81425476
>posting Hibike as a negative example
I don't get it, the direction was good

Disney in the 30s and 40s along with old Looney Tunes made amazing animation kino. These days good western 2D animation is dead though, it's all about CG now. Both the west and Japan have developed interesting approaches to tackling good animation, from the movement-rich realism of Disney feature films to the energetic Looney Tunes shorts, and the expressionistic limited animation styles of anime. Only a pleb would be so close-minded when it comes to appreciating animation.

>>81424496
>compard to the Japanese

Who outsource to the Koreans for animators. Virtually all good animation is exclusively Korean. Similar to how Italians tend to dominate cinematography jobs.

>>81429294
It's mostly the inbetween animation that gets outsourced, and a lot of the key animation is still done locally in Japan. Their animation isn't produced like how it's done in the west where the storyboards are shipped to Korea where all animation work is done.

>>81429243
It's actually surprising that anime is this bad. They release about 120 new shows per year and rarely anything is watchable.

>>81429134
Not impressive.
Silhouettes are easy to animate
Kinda interesting

Still nothing in nipponland comes even close to this >>81427441

Also you just hand picked a few. Most anime don't even have proper mouth animation.

>>81429384
The Thief and the Cobbler has outstanding animation but you have to consider how long they worked on that shit

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>>81426892
>Unironically linking to Nostalgia Critic

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>>81427441
>Forced animation

>>81428194
Exactly

>>81429337
even their in-house animators are often Korean though and most Japs learn animation over there.

>>81429226
It's such a shame that Kyoanus has such good animators and they have to work on the same sol crap all the time.

>>81427441
To be fair, Richard Williams work is the exception to the rule too for the western industry. The Thief and The Cobbler was a labour of love that never really went anywhere in the end. Personally I'd just go for Fantasia or one of the old Looney Tunes shorts as they're artistic achievements which are complete products.

That said, there's still lots to like about the animation in anime. It's rarely as animated as typical western cartoons due to resource constraints but the Japs have made an art out of extracting the most out of limited drawings. The production process in anime also allows for talented animators to express their individual styles which makes it really fun to identify when watching a show.

>>81425780
was it autism?

no amount of shekels can match pure Japanese autism

>>81429506
Wrong, most of them are Japanese. Check the average anime credits and you'll find Japanese names. Also, there are many animation schools in Japan. There's no need for them to Korea of all places.

>>81429384
also, since you seem knowledgeable on the subject, what western animated movies would you recommend?

>>81429419
That's fair. But the same goes for any disney princess dancing sequence or whatever.

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Any animation students here?
Do American animation students just entirely use computer-generated animation techniques now? that sounds so depressing.

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>>81428178
leave it to /tv/ to fall for the """"high-art"""" bullshit, moe is fun and fun things are fun

>western audiences are ok with the animation level of stuff like Steven Universe, Rick and Morty, Samurai Jack etc.
>why don't they improve?

flawed products for a flawed audience

>>81428132
So only /fit/ has any taste at all?

>>81429677
>flawed products for a flawed audience
Totally not like anime amrite?

>>81429615
I don't know shit. I just can't stand you weebs being smug while your shit is barely animated.

>>81425379
This

>>81429749
>shit is barely animated.
Anime is visuals first and movement second, it's not that they can't animate well it's just that fluid hand-drawn animation is fucking expensive unless you aren't an American animation studio.

>>81425476
weebs absolutely seething rn

>>81429721
anime is for a lot of audiences unlike western animation which is mostly for kids and manchildren

a more fair comparison would be western live action tv shows vs anime since that's where most of the west puts its effort

I hate anime and the anime culture but you are kidding yourself if you say that western animation, outside of the rare exception, matches jap animation.

>>81426006
Wtf

>>81429795
>a more fair comparison would be western live action tv shows vs anime
That's not a fair comparison by any stretch of the imagination though

You're literally talking about an award-winning medium respected by the general public vs niche shit that's 95% pandering towards otaku and 5% frustrated animators who can't get enough budget to fund shows that they personally want to make.

I'll take lazy animation over an entire country that recycles the same single art style

>>81429779
>LMAO WHY IS WESTERN ANIMATION SO BAD
>poor nips just don't have the budget.

Pick one.

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>>81429857

>>81429817
t. weeb

Just because it looks pretty, doesn't make it well animated

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>>81429795
>anime is for a lot of audiences unlike western animation which is mostly for kids and manchildren
Agreed anime has such variety and totally not for kids/manchildren.

>>81429868
I never said western animation was bad.

>>81429978
What's with your hate against anime? The new season is pretty bad, true, but we're also getting good stuff like Uchouten Kazoku 2 and Yoru wa mijikashi aru ke yo otome. 95% of every medium is shit, it has always been like that, both for western and eastern animation.

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can any ameritrash toon compete with LOGH?

>>81430010
Nigga, no matter how much mental gymnastics you do. Anime is for manchildren. Try showing some of that degeneracy to your dad and see how long it takes for him to slap some sense into you.

>>81430010
Weebs are annoying cunts wit low standards. They watch garbage and at the same time badmouth Hollywood or Western cartoons.

>>81430104
>Try showing some of that degeneracy to your dad and see how long it takes for him to slap some sense into you.
I actually watched Hibike with him two days ago lol. He also doesn't give a fuck about my two figurines. Anyways, my point is that while most anime are bad, there are some genuinely good shows out there.

>>81429985
You're right senpai. This thread is making me go mad. You weebniggers should go back to your own board

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>>81430104
>Anime is for manchildren

and western cartoons aren't?

>>81430126
>wit

with lad, with.

>>81430126
A few of them, maybe a lot. I don't know. But I don't, so why even bring it up? Also, you can hate the fanbase of something and still like the thing itself.

>>81430158
They are family movies. At least I'm not in denial about it.
>muh adult animation

>>81430184
Not him, but what can't you understand about different kinds of anime having different target audiences? There is stuff for children, teenagers and adults

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>>81430184
>They are family movies.

get a copy of felidae, plague dogs or fritz the cat and show it to your entire family.

>>81430158
western animation doesn't pretend to be anything morethan for kids/manchildren

now go and have another circlejerk thread about EVA being the greatest achievement of humanity

>>81430271
>EVA being the greatest achievement of humanity
nobody ever said this, you're just being really pathetic right now. What's wrong with not exclusively catering towards children? If anything you should support shows like EVA for being more than that.

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>>81430271
>western animation doesn't pretend to be anything morethan for kids/manchildren

neither does anime lad. you seem to be getting upset about the fanbase rather than the actual product.

also more than is 2 words.

>>81425723
sauce

>>81430230
This doesn't have anything to do with anything.

>>81430201
That's where you're wrong kiddo. There are no well adjusted accountants above 30 that watch anime. It is a form of entertainment soley dedicated to the most pathetic of creatures that are college age or lower. Also I'd be interested to see this adult anime. Do they still have to look for the 7 crystals so that they can kill the vampire loli? Or do they simply discuss the morals of killing the vampire loli?

>>81430326
>le you must be upset smug anime post (I am sure this will bother him!)

you new anime fans are disgusting to be honest so it's normal to hate the fanbase, wearing liking anime as a badge against "normies" and other retarded shit

>>81430393
>Also I'd be interested to see this adult anime.
Kaiba
Tatami Galaxy
NHK ni Youkoso
these are all targeted at an adult audience

>>81430326
He actually posted a fucking smug anime face. If I could fit my fist through the internet and punch you in the face, I would.

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>>81430393
>There are no well adjusted accountants above 30 that watch anime.

There are no well-adjusted accountants above 30 that watch western toons.

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>>81430431
you seem awfully triggered, toonboy.

>>81430418
I was mocking you. There is no such thing as adult anime. 15 and up does not mean adult.

>>81430393

>There are no well adjusted accountants above 30 that watch anime.

I've literally met one.

You very clearly have very little understanding of how wide-spanning many niche interests are.

There are more well adjusted accountants above 30 that watch anime than there are well adjusted accountants above 30 that watch shitty art-films that that /tv/ and other cinema-babies insist are "patrician".

>>81430271

>western animation doesn't TRY to be anything morethan for kids/manchildren

Fixed that for you.

>>81430433
They watch it with their kids or nieces and nephews. They don't masturbate to loli in their mom's basement.

>>81430510
>15 and up does not mean adult.
Tatami Galaxy and it's message are targeted towards college students, which are by default adults. Same goes for NHK ni Youkoso which is about a jobless loser

I am giving up now. Will you motherfucking weebniggers just stick to your shitty boards? Anime triggers me to no extend. AND YOU CAN'T DENY THAT WESTERN ANIMATION IS MORE FLUID. goodbye.

>>81430657
>AND YOU CAN'T DENY THAT WESTERN ANIMATION IS MORE FLUID
there is no single "western animation", just like there is no singe "eastern animation". There's just good and bad animation.

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>>81430568
but they're not watching it for their own enjoyment, are they? they're probably not even watching it anyway - it's just playing for the child's amusment while the accountant pisses about on his apple product.

The East gave us Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Akira and more.

The West gave us Pinocchio, Persepolis, The Prince of Egypt, and more.

How is this an argument? Both produce great stuff, and both produce shit.

>>81424496
Simply put, anime and manga are better because there's weight behind the characters. How many people have wrote Superman? How many have written lines for Homer? There's no real creativity because it's all product, no art. Why would you be surprised that there's no artistic effort when art isn't the goal?

>>81430803
People identify with one medium and try to start shit because they are autistic

>>81430803
>the east gave us original stories and top tier animation

>the "west" gave us stolen ideas

woah, the west really is creatively bankrupt

>>81427621
In the defense of that particular movie, it has way more technically competent animation than Aladdin that came out the same year. And is also way better as a movie. Disney's only advantage was the consistent 24 frames a second.

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>Disney will never get Mamoru Oshii to direct something

>>81430862
Ignoring the fact the Persepolis was created with the involvement of the author of the original comic and didn't steal anything, and ignoring the fact that adapting books and history is a great cinematic tradition and does not in any way spoil the quality of the work, I'll take the bait.

Fantasia
Lilo and Stitch
The Triplets of Belleville

And more

>>81424496
Someone hasn't seen Aeon Flux

>>81429010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4f9qlTylKk

>>81425723

what is this?

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I sincerely hope anime haters stay mad. Keep up the good threads op, it's easy to bait them.

>>81427621
>hardly impressive if you compare it to Disney
Ayyyy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQVIV_7RRMQ

>>81424496
Because that's wrong, Japanese animation most of the time is lazy. Western animation is usually superior and western animators more skilled. The Japanese art style gives the illusion of superior animation.

>>81429384
>>81429134
Looks to me you care more for pushing the limits of animation frames per second as opposed to creative use of animation.

Where exactly do Americans get the galls to call anime same-looking when nowadays all their animated movies are Toy Story clone?

>>81431118
>it was real in my mind

>>81431118
More like nips actually bother with complex looking characters instead of just drawing glorified stick figures with no shadows.

>>81430977
>Stolen Music: The Animation
>generic little girl meets strange animal edgy rip off of Totoro
>etc.

>>81424496
Because cartoons are for children.

>>81424496
Western cartoon shows for children have better animation quality than 99% of anime OP. You're full of shit.

Why does KyoAni make the same boring garbage over and over again

>>81429241
good post
>>81431252
because it sells

>>81426304
Bakemonogatari

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>>81431226

Post a western animated scene more epic than this?

>>81431337
The frames are so choppy I can barely tell what is even happening.

>>81424496

What is this from?

>>81431118
you do realise most western animation is done by koreans?

>>81424496
probably because you retarded faggots will watch anything

>>81431399
violet evergarden

>>81431380
>i have visual autism

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Anime is the most autistic media in the world. It's fucking hilarious how weird and retarded it is.

They all feel like they come from the dreams of some angsty beta with down syndrome. I can't take any of it seriously. It's so over the top and cliche you cant even watch it to laugh at it you just sit their cringing at all the ridiculous beta male fantasies that play out in front of you.

>>81431321
Thanks, man.

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>>81431622
>I can't take any of it seriously

you're not meant to lad.

it's fiction.

>>81431643
I can't fathom what it's like to think that all fiction is just silly fantasies and then none of it is worth taking seriously. It's hard for me to see someone never getting lost in a book or movie and becoming invested in the events that take place.

That would be a very sad person. I pity you.

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>>81431622
>i don't know how to broaden my horizons and learn to love other forms of escape-ism (which is all that movies/games are)

You should try to watch some of the higher rated stuff on imdb/MAL - you probably started with some average stuff and thought "is this it?"

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>>81431719
>That would be a very sad person. I pity you.

i'm not the one getting serious over cartoons m8.

there's a difference between getting invested and taking it seriously.

>It's hard for me to see someone never getting lost in a book or movie and becoming invested in the events that take place.

but those events are fictional lol

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>>81431622
I bet you're a fun guy.

>>81430828
I know that this is bait, but are there weebs who believe that modern anime isn't anything but advertisement for shitty figurines and merchandise. Sure weebs are the most autistic group on the planet, but even they must know that there is no artistic vision or depth behind most of anime shows that are coming out. OVA and movies used to be a safe space for creative endeavors, but even they have succumbed to the same merchandising practices. There simply isn't any room for non-otaku creatives in a declining industry.

>>81426006
Holy shit, you're absolutely right

>>81431069
Weebs don't have to bait, they're simply too autistic to be ignored.

>>81431196
So is 2001 Stolen music: the sci fi film?

You're an idiot, and you don't deserve art.

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>>81431622
I'm not sure if you mean Anime as in the popularized high school/power level shit, or Anime in general, but if the latter you need to broaden your horizons mate.
There's anime well beyond all that. Look for Seinen stuff, you know, shit made for adults, not children. If it looks edgy as fuck, keep looking. There'd Deadpool Seinen, and there's (as a simple example) pic related Seinen. This is Space Brothers, a show based around a man putting his life back on track and trying to become an astronaut with everything that entails. There's some lighter stuff in there too, because it is meant for entertainment, but it's a good entry level "mature" show.
Just be prepared for it to be slow.

>>81425888
Rango was kino without an audience

>>81431962
fuck off retard
Disney has never made anything original

>art

lol simpleton

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>>81425920

>>81425888
>>81432077
This. I can't fathom how it isn't more widely adored. It's one of the best animated films of the past few decades. I'd even argue the best 3D western animated film made for general audiences, though it could be tied with a couple of things.
Also, Checked.

>>81432123
Sure thing.

You realise that the signature anime art style comes from Ozama Tezuka being a massive Carl Barks fan and copying the Duck Tales art style to create Astro Boy, but whatever.

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what are you anime hating faggots even doing on this website in the first place

>>81432230
I don't hate anime, I hate the modern weeb meme culture

>>81432230
weebs got cucked from their own site, senpai. this is an official white supremacist site headed by a chink.

>>81432123
Name me a Japanese production similar to Fantasia.

>>81432199
>Ducktales
>Darkwing Duck
>The Adventures of Tintin

As much as weebs loves to criticize Western animation. They just lack knowledge on what to consume on what constitute good western animation.

>>81432559
Indeed. And Vice Versa. Generalizations like the one OP made are ridiculous, and all over /tv/.

>>81432230
Fuck off weeb.

>>81433416
>someone was butt hurt enough to make this image

>>81433550
>someone was butt hurt enough to reply to that image

>>81433550
the image is ancient lad.

>>81433579
Someone still made it. It didn't appear out of thin air.

>>81433579
Is it? I'm no old fag, but I've been here on and off since 2009. I've never seen it before.

>>81433416
REKT

>>81432447
Mindgame
Neo Tokyo
Memories
Robot Carnival
Short Peace

>>81433627
>but I've been here on and off since 2009

holy shit we got a badass over here.

it existed before /tv/ did.

>>81432230
Why the fuck is it always /v/edditors?

https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/1487703754342/image/7XnbhuebwIe__IahXMeQ3g/

>>81433718
That's fantastic, now read the first part of my post again.

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>>81433416
Who are you quoting?

>>81431337
If there is such a thing as "overanimated" then this is it. I bet you liked SAO and FMA: Brotherhood.

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>>81433979
>i've never seen it before so it cannot be old.

>>81434021
A strawman from /co/ I think

>>81434067
>Katanagatari
>overanimated
80% of it is the two main characters talking to each other and the fights are usually over in about 10 seconds.

>>81433718
>it existed before /tv/ did.
How so when /tv/ was made a test board at the same time as /co/?
Why the fuck are you pretending you were even around before 2010? HAHAHAHAAH

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>>81434125
because i've been here since 2005, newcuck

Laika>Weebshit after Kon died

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>>81425476
>Guy rips on anime
>inb4 20 replies

Weebs btfo

>>81428132
You know /g/ is a newfag infested shithole when it's missing the key animes.

Old /g/ was filled with Ichigo Mashimaro, Horo and Shugo Chara

>>81434174
You mean 2015 due to star wars 7 right? You just said that image existed before /tv/ yet /co/ and /tv/ were made on the same day

>>81434068
>reading comprehension.

>>81426158
>no replies
Funny,this movie is as extremely underrated as this post,somebody post any webm from song of the sea ,that movie is also great

>>81425822
>quality
kek

>>81425843
about six frames of animation and shitty cg butts
some top quality shit right here

>>81426292
OPM has legendary animation, this isn't even fair

It's people from /a/ think bright colors and pretty outfits mean art thread again.

>>81426177
You're pretty wrong in this front friendo. Other guy is pretty wrong in his assessment but so are you.

>>81434619
I'm 6 minutes into that fight and I hardly see what is so legendary about the animation quality. You're a fucking pleb.

Even the fucking intro has better animation than that.

>>81427722
What was that for?

>>81435935
She forgot something and massaged her brain to remember

>>81425723
what anime

>>81425407
No. Only some work is outsourced to Korea. Kyoto Animation, who made OP's animation, do nearly everything in-house, not even outsourcing to other Japanese studios.

>>81425476
You legitimately have a mental illness, and I don't think even famicom is as bad as you.

>>81425539
>>81425697
Animation quality is not measured by how many frames of animation there are. More fluid does not mean better, and there is way more to animation than just fluid character acting.

>This of course doesn't count for your generic SoL moeblob shitfest.
No such thing exists.

>>81425928
The studio owner in this image runs a studio that provides production assistance. It does not produce anime of its own. Furthermore, even at the time this documentary was shot, other studios were producing the kind of animation he claims nobody was making. So he is completely full of shit.

>>81428450
And an /m/ fag at that, what has any anon from /tv/ accomplished?

>>81426019
Anime was never about replicating Disney.

>>81426599
>censored nudity so people will buy BDs
Nudity has to be censored due to television content restrictions, and even then not all BD releases are uncensored even though they could be.

>derivative garbage produced all the time
Those are called genres and conventions, which exist everywhere. Yet, it is only anime that is attacked for having them.

>>81426892
Anime looks nothing like Samurai Jack, and most anime is animated by hand.

>>81427280
Only some production work is sent to Korea, and if you think budget is so important then go compare The Simpsons ($2 million per episode) to something by Kyoto Animation (somewhere between $150-250K).

>>81427441
>a lot of it is rotoscoped to some degree
Rotoscoping is very rare in anime.

>I'm going to use a bit of an unfair example, but webm related is something that anime can -rarely- achieve on a level of pure animation quality and creativity.
Again, there is more to animation than fluidness.

>>81427621
People add new stuff to sakugabooru every day from new and old shows alike.

>>81427852
The maturity level of American animation is rock bottom compared to anime. It's not even a contest.

>>81427980
>majority of anime is the same boring garbage
Anime is extremely diverse, even more so than live action TV.

>caleb is here
Why is he replying to everyone? is he mentally ill?

>>81428163
There are a lot of serious and dramatic anime, and having teenagers as the characters doesn't mean anything.

>>81429010
A laughable exaggeration invented by people who've never even watched anime beyond maybe some half-remembered episode of DBZ.

>>81429294
>Who outsource to the Koreans for animators.
As stated before: no. It's odd how prevalent this meme has become.

>>81429506
>even their in-house animators are often Korean though
Rarely.

>most Japs learn animation over there
This is so absurd that I can only assume you are lying in order to push an anti-Japanese or anti-anime agenda.

>>81429857
The fact that there are very broad similarities in the faces of anime characters does not mean there exists a singular style of character design. Then there is the fact, which people often don't understand, is that character designs are not just disembodied faces.

>>81430104
Manchildren is a meme employed to avoid having to admit that anime is watched by adults.

>>81424496
>>>/a/

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>>81431622
Movies are the most autistic media in the world. It's fucking hilarious how stupid and braindead it is.

They all feel like they come from Hollywood board meetings doing only stuff that will make them the most money. I can't take it seriously. It's so uninspired and cliche you cant even watch it and turn your brain off you just sit their cringing at all the ridiculous mindless red blooded Amerifat fantasies that play out in front of you in shitty CGI.

>>81430393
>Also I'd be interested to see this adult anime.
Kado: The Right Answer, for example. It just started airing and we don't know how it will pan out, but it is a good example so far. Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu and ACCA-13 are recent examples too.

>>81430510
>There is no such thing as adult anime.
Then logically there does not exist anything that is for adults. Everything is for children.

>>81431118
>Japanese animation most of the time is lazy.
This is a meme perpetuated by people who don't understand anything about animation and how it's made.

>Western animation is usually superior and western animators more skilled
Not only is American animation of lower quality, but very little animation is even produced in America anymore. Almost all of it is made in Korea.

>The Japanese art style gives the illusion of superior animation.
Animation is illusion.

>>81431252
They don't. Westerners just don't watch any of their shows and have somehow imagined a reality where they are all the same.

>>81437324
>Jew magic

good goyim

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>>81425476
this

>>81431622
Autistic doesn't mean anything.

>They all feel like they come from the dreams of some angsty beta with down syndrome. I can't take any of it seriously. It's so over the top and cliche you cant even watch it to laugh at it you just sit their cringing at all the ridiculous beta male fantasies that play out in front of you.
A wild, sweeping generalization extrapolated from a couple of shows.

>>81431812
>are there weebs who believe that modern anime isn't anything but advertisement for shitty figurines and merchandise
Merchandise is in most cases a by-product. The more popular a show is the more merchandise manufacturers produce merchandise for it. Having merchandise associated with an anime does not mean the anime was made for no other purpose or was somehow intentionally made poorly because intentionally making bad anime show aids in selling merchandise.

Westerners have an irrational fear of merchandising.

>There simply isn't any room for non-otaku creatives in a declining industry.
There is "non-otaku" anime every single season, it's just that you people never watch any of it. You won't even acknowledge it exists.

>>81432046
>There's anime well beyond all that. Look for Seinen stuff
K-On and Kiniro Mosaic are seinen.

>>81437202
>>81437367
>>81437496
>>81437682
/a/utism

>look at this deep symbolism wow our cartoons are so deep with hidden meanings guys also the main character is a teen girl because then we can sell more weeb figures that way

Evangelion was a mistake.

>>81437982
Autism doesn't mean anything.

>>81438052
The irony is that you people are completely obsessed with symbolism and don't even consider anything else.

>also the main character is a teen girl because then we can sell more weeb figures that way
So figures manufactured by Japanese people for the Japanese market are wannabe Japanese?

Evangelion evidently created the modern "character industry," rather than being part of it to begin with. The reason why female characters are prevalent in anime has little to do with merchandising concerns however.

>>81437324
That movie was amazing. Need more Bible kino like this.

>>81437982
Not a single argument of him has been refuted so far

>>81438219
that's because no one is actually reading them
>arguing in a thread that reached bump limit

>>81438280
That's just sad

>>81429666
>moe is fun
If you're autistic.

>>81438399
Autistic doesn't mean anything.

>>81437682
>>81438151
>>81438425
I think you might be autistic.

>>81438455
Autistic doesn't mean anything.

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>>81438531
>Autism, or autism spectrum disorder, refers to a range of conditions characterized by challenges with social skills, repetitive behaviors, speech and nonverbal communication
>repetitive behaviors

>>81438579
You can't use the word in a completely random fashion without any regard for its meaning and then bust out a dictionary/Wikipedia definition when you get called out on it.

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>>81438399
You should give it a try, it really is fun

>>81428065
What the fuck are you even talking about?

Nowadays /a/ is full of newfags, moeshit lovers, and the like. A literal shithole, one of the worst boards along with /b/ and /pol/. So, fuck off with your shitty pasta.

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Samurai Jack is pretty kino