Why don't more people talk about Platoon? I watched it

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Bumping for suggestions

>>81340121
Bumping this too. Great movie OP. What you wrote is exactly what I went through too.

You smoke this shit to escape reality? Me, I dont need this shit.. I am reality.

I was surprised by a young Charlie Sheen playing a serious role, I didn't know he was in it.

Assembly is good, but its in Chinese (subs good) and turns into propaganda near the end. Still the first half is a pretty straight up war film focused on one dude leading his men.

>white people pretending they were noble heroes and not just raping hateful genocidal fucks

everyone involved in vietnam is a fucking criminal. the precedent was even an admitted false flag

>>81340121
Reminder that Barnes did nothing wrong. If the war was planned and led by people like him the US would have won the war.

>babby's firs vietnam war movie

>>81340486
stop crying

I've always known it to have a reputation to be the most realistic vietnam movie.

Platoon and the vietnam section from Forest Gump both have good marks in that regard.

I've seen platoon at least 50 times.

>>81340121
>It shows the brutal nature of combat as it truly is, without glory or any higher purpose than self preservation
Just because you think combat has no purpose other than self-preservation doesn't mean everyone thinks the same way.

>>81340662
Defensive combat, like the depiction of the Tet Offensive at the film's climax, serves no objective apart from self preservation.

>>81340837
Defensive combat is not the only combat that exists (see special forces for example).

>>81340517
It was. Westmoreland notably wanted to commit even more forces after the Tet offensive, saying that the Oriental has no regard for human life, and the best way to win over them was to withstand their waves of unwinnable attacks to wear them down through attrition.

The public wasn't a fan fan of that, and he was reassigned to the role JSC in mid 1968.

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YOU WHERE IN 'NAM WHEN VINCE WAS 7? HOW FUCKING OLD ARE YOU DRAMA

>>81340923
SOF comprises a relatively small part of the military in comparison to the infantryman of the USA/USMC. A counter insurgency (Vietnam, Gulf, Iraq, Afgahn) is definitionally a defensive war with brief offensive pushes for strategic objectives.

>>81341028
SOF was an example. I didn't say all offensive operations are conducted by them. And my point from the start was simply:
>Just because you think combat has no purpose other than self-preservation doesn't mean everyone thinks the same way.
You are arguing just for the sake of arguing.

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My dad took me to see it when I was 9. Wanted me to witness the struggle or something.

>>81340482

Mandarin or Cantonese?

>>81341074
I'm not trying to argue. I'm not effectively communicating what I'm trying to say.

I'm saying that you're right, but that the paradigm of post WW2 warfare lacks the sort of cohesion and brotherhood that earlier wars had, mainly because most contemporary conflicts take the form of a protracted counterinsurgency without any grand objectives apart from holding ground and defensive attrition. Offensive operations are mainly a function of this effort, and as a result, don't inspire grandiose ideals in our boys.

I think the movie captures this well.

>>81340486
t. Charlie

There's a B movie from Canon studios called Platoon Leader that you would absolutely love.

It's probably the most based vietnam movie out there. I've read vets cite it as being the most accurate to their experiences online. Also the soundtrack fucking rules.

It's up for free on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnHbVCzuofc

There's also Boys of Company C with R. Lee Emery pre-bad motherfucker in Full Metal Jacket. You'd love that movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTmqlvnHGEY

I spent my whole childhood wasted on war movies. I can talk about them for days.

May not be what OP is looking for but would you guys recommend Casualties of War?

>>81340121
there was nothing surrealist about Deer Hunter. your opinion is shit

>>81341498

That's a fucking dark movie man. It's fun to watch Sean Penn be such a villain but I dunno. It's worth a watch but I dunno about that movie.

>>81341578
http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/movies/bestpictures/deer-re.html

Sixth paragraph, first sentence:
>Mr. Cimino has described his treatment of the three friends' war experiences as surreal, which is another way of saying that a lot of recent history is ellipsized or shaped to fit the needs of the film.

When even the director disagrees with you, it's time to stop posting and look up from your phone to pay attention in class.

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There's also Siege of Firebase Gloria with R. Lee Emery as a super based Sargent in Vietnam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mUBU9PBjbc

>>81341788
Correction: writer/director

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Then there was Hamburger Hill which was alright...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD8JsqTcZoc

>>81340837
That wasn't the tet offensive. Full metal jacket was about the tet offensive.

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Then if you want to mix it up, Flight of the Intruder is a pretty good Vietnam navy aviator movie. Willem Dafoe as a crazy bombardier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWLk36djRE

>>81340554
My dad also says Platoon was the most realistic depiction of day to day life in Vietnam. He said other movies have captured the feeling of combat better, but how characters interacted with each other was dead on.

You really had to be careful who you pissed off. He knew of at least two instances of people or groups of people murdering their commanding officers. That being said, he also thinks Barnes was in the right. War is evil by its nature, and it forces men to do horrible, unspeakable things to survive. Trying to play nice or hold back will only make you vulnerable, because even if you spared Charlie in his village that morning you can bet your asshole he'll be back to ambush you that night. The communists have never shown mercy and neither should you.

>>81340121
The most genuine depiction of Vietnam is We Were Soldiers, so long as you skip past the cliche deaths and stupid state side scenes.

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>>81341993
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>>81340121
>Why don't more people talk about Platoon?
Lol what are you talking about? Stone got best director for it and it also got Best Picture. People probably don't talk about it a lot now because the 80s was a long time ago. Thin Red Line is a similar film that came too late after Full Metal Jacket to be remembered as a le great Vietnam film.